| 00:01.13 | a_meteorite | downloading.. I'll let ya know |
| 00:01.47 | mrapple | const the name space for "BZFlag 2.0.16.app" looks a little bit wide imho |
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| 00:03.02 | Runic | it usually has a dash not a space in the name |
| 00:03.20 | mrapple | it has a dash |
| 00:03.35 | mrapple | im saying the PNG background |
| 00:03.45 | Runic | not in what you typed |
| 00:03.55 | mrapple | i missed the dash in my |
| 00:03.58 | mrapple | "" |
| 00:05.24 | delusional | Constitution: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4286 fixed my problem |
| 00:06.23 | Constitution | ok good |
| 00:08.49 | a_meteorite | no more profont ugh |
| 00:09.26 | Runic | the is an unneeded extra file in the bundle: BZFlag-2.0.16.app/Icon |
| 00:09.30 | Constitution | mrapple: please don't criticize my artistic perfection which I created in 3 minutes in gimp |
| 00:09.34 | Constitution | ;) |
| 00:10.27 | delusional | scolling the console with my fancy new mouse is jumpy |
| 00:10.51 | Constitution | Runic: wups, thanks |
| 00:12.27 | a_meteorite | is it just me or do the experimental 3.0 shots look kinda yellow when on green team? |
| 00:13.24 | a_meteorite | they're also turned on on all display qualities |
| 00:14.37 | a_meteorite | F1 and minimizing work fine |
| 00:15.14 | a_meteorite | also, Intel Mac Mini (~2008) with 10.5.8 |
| 00:18.47 | delusional | it's the momentum-scroll mouse setting that is not being handled properly. Remove that, and the scroll is correct |
| 00:19.26 | delusional | with the momentum... it scrolls normally during acceleration, but begins to scroll backward during deceleration |
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| 00:29.37 | Constitution | alright it's up |
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| 00:49.33 | trepan | delusional: BZDB link blocks _block_ the tanks or shots from going through the link |
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| 00:54.49 | delusional | trepan, what i don't understanf is the BZDB variable blocks in the link object |
| 00:55.00 | delusional | how does it block a variable? |
| 00:55.11 | trepan | the variable controls the blockage |
| 00:55.19 | trepan | if true, stuff don't go through |
| 00:55.46 | delusional | ahh, i see.... you can open and close the door! |
| 00:55.56 | trepan | yes |
| 00:56.12 | trepan | notes that the luaserver hooks are there for per-player door control |
| 00:56.19 | delusional | very nice |
| 00:57.48 | trepan | probably doesn't matter too much at this point :) |
| 00:58.55 | delusional | should just start teaching everybody to use svn, and compile. |
| 00:59.43 | trepan | going to pull a Lazarus? |
| 01:00.54 | delusional | google is not my freind on that reference |
| 01:06.39 | delusional | I guess bring it back from the dead? I thought lazarus was the one who lived to 800 years old. Is that methusala? |
| 01:06.56 | trepan | Lazarus n 1: the person who Jesus raised from the dead after four days in the tomb; this miracle caused the enemies of Jesus to begin the plan to put him to death |
| 01:07.04 | trepan | (From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]:) |
| 01:07.51 | delusional | maybe when it's released, 3.0's name should be methuselah. |
| 01:09.29 | delusional | i refuse to give up hope. |
| 01:11.09 | trepan | hope can buy you lots of stuff, like free smiles at Mickee D's |
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| 01:24.15 | delusional | I'll probably lose hope before i'm 969 years old. |
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| 02:29.31 | Constitution | wow I think apple has so killed movie rental shops |
| 02:32.16 | Bambino | yep...had two in my area close down... |
| 02:35.22 | Runic | Blockbuster Inc. to throw in the towel and file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy |
| 02:35.49 | blast007 | if only the RIAA/MPAA would go bankrupt... |
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| 02:46.22 | Constitution | hopes they are expanding the internet pipes to cope with massive movie files being transferred more and more frequently |
| 02:52.30 | short_circuit | r we talking o t in bzflag? |
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| 03:05.09 | Constitution | short_circuit: other pastimes such as movie watching have impact on bz player population as far as how playing time is impacted and how movies may change player desires/interests |
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| 03:11.20 | blast007 | also, the oscillation overthruster is from a movie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Buckaroo_Banzai_Across_the_8th_Dimension |
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| 08:09.05 | short_circuit | buckaroo bonzai still rules.... and ot is ot. ok? ;) |
| 08:09.45 | short_circuit | and since it was ot..... I really need to find BB on ebay ;) |
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| 20:34.20 | echelon | anyone else have issues with bzflag freezing up when starting it up after resuming from a pm-suspend? |
| 20:34.53 | echelon | can't even switch to a different tty |
| 20:45.09 | Murielle | pm suspend = ? |
| 20:45.46 | echelon | suspend for linux |
| 20:46.03 | echelon | part of pm-utils |
| 20:57.12 | Murielle | like..hibernate? |
| 20:58.54 | echelon | ya, but hibernate stores to disk, suspend stores to memory |
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| 21:02.38 | Murielle | i have solution, echelon |
| 21:02.44 | Murielle | stop to suspend |
| 21:02.49 | temporalD | lol |
| 21:02.54 | Murielle | hi temporalD |
| 21:03.01 | temporalD | heya Murielle :D |
| 21:03.05 | echelon | - |
| 21:03.24 | Murielle | rebootingPCtake 15sec |
| 21:03.30 | Murielle | rebooting PCt akes 15sec |
| 21:03.35 | Murielle | rebooting PC takes 15sec |
| 21:03.39 | Murielle | rebooting PC takes 15 sec |
| 21:03.45 | Murielle | (( finally )) |
| 21:03.50 | temporalD | fixing spacebar takes 5 minutes |
| 21:04.01 | Murielle | need a new kb,temp |
| 21:04.11 | temporalD | i see :) |
| 21:04.26 | Murielle | i am going to sell my plugins..THOISE THAT ARE NOT OPENSOURCE !!! |
| 21:05.45 | temporalD | make sure the licenses are obvious - heh |
| 21:06.39 | Murielle | "Current Muri code cannot be used due to GPL issue, which is an obligatiory requirement. Murielle's status as a minor means US courts will not enforce a license contract between her and other developers." <--- was on ducati news section |
| 21:06.57 | Murielle | so i declare there is no GPL |
| 21:06.59 | Murielle | :) |
| 21:07.27 | Murielle | btw..this news was a real shit ;) |
| 21:07.33 | temporalD | lang |
| 21:07.49 | temporalD | lol |
| 21:07.51 | Murielle | french..and yours? |
| 21:07.57 | temporalD | oui oui |
| 21:08.00 | Murielle | :) |
| 21:08.05 | Murielle | u have improved!!! |
| 21:08.23 | Murielle | you told 2 words in french (even if it is twice the same) |
| 21:08.34 | temporalD | ¿que? |
| 21:08.36 | Murielle | congrats, temporalD |
| 21:08.49 | Murielle | eh..i am not spanish |
| 21:08.52 | temporalD | gracias |
| 21:08.59 | Murielle | -_- |
| 21:09.25 | me1 | Hola murielle, que paso? |
| 21:09.47 | Murielle | me llamo Muriella la bella |
| 21:09.49 | Murielle | ;) |
| 21:10.24 | temporalD | ¡si! |
| 21:11.24 | Murielle | temporalD: you realize you are speaking in spanish, right? |
| 21:11.37 | temporalD | da |
| 21:11.52 | Murielle | ruskii |
| 21:12.46 | me1 | ÑÑо? |
| 21:14.18 | Murielle | btw.... do you know, dear people, there are two server running a random blocs, 2 shots, ricos map (showdown.bzlag.net:4360 in USA) and vps2.moooo.org:4360 (in EUROPE) that are waiting for you with an autoreport plugin to be tested ???? |
| 21:14.50 | Murielle | hum? If I were you, I would run there and enjoy them :) |
| 21:15.55 | temporalD | still work time here in USA |
| 21:15.59 | Murielle | chto te rachit, me1 |
| 21:16.01 | temporalD | (for most) |
| 21:16.24 | Murielle | oh ...ur bosses are back,temp ? :( |
| 21:17.24 | temporalD | yea - unfortunately |
| 21:17.37 | echelon | Hnnnnnng |
| 21:19.46 | trepan | Murielle: GPL issues? obligatory requirement for what? |
| 21:20.53 | Murielle | bah..i have forked bzflag and I have found someone who accept to buy it. I did think it would annoy you since you do not stop to say it is dying ;) |
| 21:21.10 | jh` | lol |
| 21:21.12 | Murielle | I did not think ** |
| 21:21.39 | Murielle | Did I do something bad again ??? |
| 21:21.45 | Murielle | :) |
| 21:21.50 | jh` | only funny |
| 21:22.27 | Murielle | Trepan: more seriously, it was related to a plugin i coded |
| 21:23.18 | Murielle | actually, I will never code in GPL anymore. I got too much troubles |
| 21:23.56 | Murielle | dead to GPL !! |
| 21:24.08 | Murielle | :) |
| 21:24.10 | trepan | LGPL? |
| 21:24.27 | Murielle | LGPL ? |
| 21:24.48 | trepan | that's the license bzflag uses |
| 21:25.20 | Murielle | ahhh |
| 21:25.46 | Murielle | i am using MGPL |
| 21:31.06 | Murielle | kierra: ping |
| 21:31.19 | Murielle | you forgot brl servers :p |
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| 22:28.13 | JefferyM | mind control... in a license? |
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| 22:34.11 | JefferyM | activates the mind controll section of bzflag just for Murielle |
| 22:34.25 | Murielle | what is it? |
| 22:34.32 | JefferyM | I can't tell you |
| 22:34.45 | Murielle | where is the source? |
| 22:34.52 | JefferyM | since bzflag isn't under the MGPL and allows for mind control |
| 22:35.13 | Murielle | u know MGPL? |
| 22:35.23 | JefferyM | http://zapatopi.net/mindguard/mgpl.html |
| 22:35.47 | Murielle | oh dog |
| 22:35.50 | Murielle | god* |
| 22:35.52 | Murielle | :p |
| 22:36.13 | Murielle | MGPL does exist ??? |
| 22:36.25 | blast007 | lol |
| 22:36.36 | JefferyM | I like the MPL personaly |
| 22:36.54 | Murielle | lol for dog*, blast or for the MGPL ? |
| 22:36.59 | blast007 | MGPL |
| 22:37.37 | Murielle | i thougth i was going to copyright the MGPL and put it on MMGPL licence |
| 22:37.55 | JefferyM | you could |
| 22:38.10 | Murielle | but i cannot do, i guess |
| 22:38.13 | JefferyM | why not? |
| 22:38.21 | JefferyM | you can't copyright 4 letters |
| 22:38.25 | Murielle | u said "u could" and not "ucan" |
| 22:38.36 | JefferyM | No I use the correct word "you" |
| 22:38.43 | Murielle | :) |
| 22:38.47 | JefferyM | since I am not on a cell phone |
| 22:38.56 | JefferyM | and not 4 |
| 22:39.04 | blast007 | I don't even write like that *on* my cell phone |
| 22:39.17 | JefferyM | exactly |
| 22:39.18 | Murielle | i dont even have cell phone |
| 22:39.26 | JefferyM | then you have no reason to talk like a baby ;) |
| 22:39.27 | blast007 | and I don't even have a qwerty keyboard |
| 22:39.58 | JefferyM | copyright isnt' the same as trademark, all it is, is a protection for an author if they want to sue someone who is infringing on there work |
| 22:40.04 | blast007 | thinks about how RC talks and shudders |
| 22:40.04 | Murielle | that explains, blast007... it explains whyu havenot submitted code for months |
| 22:40.12 | blast007 | Murielle: on my phone |
| 22:40.15 | blast007 | I don't code on my phone |
| 22:40.16 | JefferyM | and making something with the same name as something else that is just copyright isn't a full infringement |
| 22:40.21 | Murielle | :p |
| 22:40.27 | Murielle | maybe u should try |
| 22:40.33 | blast007 | why would I do that? |
| 22:40.36 | Bambino | blast007: wat r u talk bout?! |
| 22:40.40 | JefferyM | he will if you talk right |
| 22:40.49 | Bambino | are see iz ausom |
| 22:40.52 | Murielle | i talk right |
| 22:40.57 | blast007 | no, I will not write code on my phone even if people talk right ;) |
| 22:41.11 | blast007 | on my computer, sure |
| 22:41.13 | JefferyM | mind controls blast007 into coding |
| 22:41.24 | blast007 | AS YOU WISH |
| 22:41.29 | Murielle | maybe YOU (<-- not u) will commit more code |
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| 22:41.41 | JefferyM | nobody will commit more code |
| 22:41.48 | blast007 | ALL HAIL THE HYPNOTOAD |
| 22:41.52 | JefferyM | heh |
| 22:44.28 | JefferyM | oh Murielle you can sell bzflag if you want, the license dosn't prevent that. |
| 22:44.52 | blast007 | that's one of the freedoms it gives you, actually |
| 22:44.57 | JefferyM | indeed |
| 22:45.00 | Murielle | nah..i cant. he wanted release 3.0 |
| 22:45.04 | JefferyM | you just can't relicnese it |
| 22:45.19 | JefferyM | but if you can con someone into buying it, hey that's your deal ;) |
| 22:45.24 | JefferyM | anyoe can release 3.0 |
| 22:45.45 | Murielle | let do it!! |
| 22:45.54 | Murielle | let be crazy |
| 22:45.55 | JefferyM | have fun, let us know when you are done |
| 22:46.02 | Murielle | release 3.0 tomorrow |
| 22:46.09 | JefferyM | buld it and post it |
| 22:46.13 | JefferyM | you don't need us |
| 22:46.25 | Murielle | i will build 2.0.18 |
| 22:46.35 | JefferyM | whatever floats your boat |
| 22:46.35 | Murielle | and release it under 3.0 |
| 22:46.38 | JefferyM | ok |
| 22:46.43 | JefferyM | you have that right |
| 22:46.52 | Murielle | yes? |
| 22:46.58 | Murielle | it is my right? |
| 22:46.59 | blast007 | screw it. release 1.8 as 3.0! bam, done. |
| 22:47.08 | JefferyM | yeah, you have FULL rights to reuse and redistribute any of the sourcecode |
| 22:47.11 | JefferyM | that's what the license says |
| 22:47.19 | JefferyM | you just can't relicnese it |
| 22:47.25 | Murielle | if it is my right, then i wont do it. I prefer do things i have not right for them |
| 22:47.30 | JefferyM | and if you release it you must provide the source code on request |
| 22:48.06 | JefferyM | then there isn't much you can do with bzflag that you don't have rights to do ;) |
| 22:48.29 | Murielle | sigh |
| 22:48.45 | Murielle | i have to find another game in whicj i have less righrs |
| 22:48.50 | Murielle | rights* |
| 22:48.51 | JefferyM | the LGP is rather permisive in a practical sense |
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| 23:49.13 | Constitution | would love to see the EULA Murielle writes for her software |
| 23:49.41 | Murielle | i would love to see some people playing on my servers |
| 23:50.03 | Murielle | and for your info, Vika (aka honeytank) is not owner |
| 23:50.50 | Murielle | i am planning to do some other things, but i really need people to join and test my autoreport |
| 23:50.54 | Murielle | it would help |
| 23:51.00 | Murielle | pleeeeeaase help |
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| 23:57.44 | delusional | what is it called, muri? |
| 23:58.23 | Murielle | autoreport plugin |
| 23:58.25 | Murielle | well |
| 23:58.37 | Murielle | acutally, i merged it inside league_assistant |
| 23:58.55 | Murielle | but i would like people test it |
| 23:59.03 | jh` | server? |