IRC log for #bzflag on 20100812

00:22.56JefferyMyeah and that was the time we got the most done ;)
00:23.02JefferyMfor those that were paid
00:25.22CIA-87BZFlag: 03runic * r21267 10/trunk/bzworkbench/src/objects/pyramid.cpp: -fixes crash due to bad MaterialSlot.node pointers when toggling flipz on a pyramid with textures
00:30.36CIA-87BZFlag: 03runic * r21268 10/trunk/bzworkbench/src/objects/cone.cpp:
00:30.36CIA-87BZFlag: - corrected parsing of flipz for cone
00:30.36CIA-87BZFlag: - removed extra line return in cone output
00:30.36CIA-87BZFlag: - corrected bug in cone geometry when using flipz and an angle less then 360
00:32.08trepanConstitution: i'm fairly sure that some of the long term devs could agree on what needs to be fixed
00:32.33trepan(if not how, at least what...)
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03:01.32mrappleanyone have an archive of the thing murille posted?
03:03.44mrapplei swear i made a copy but I cant find it heh
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10:25.19Muriellemrapple: send me an email if you wanna something from me ;)
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13:07.07CIA-87BZFlag: 03Blast 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7136 10/w/Group_Management_System: /* Conversion From phpbb Groups */
13:13.20CIA-87BZFlag: 03Blast 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7137 10/w/Group_Management_System:
13:16.05CIA-87BZFlag: 03Blast 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7138 10/w/Web_Services/Player_Portal: New page: {{DesignDocument}} ==Overview== The Player Portal will consist of user management, group management, and server key management. It will also contain the weblogin page. It may or may not ...
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17:29.33blast007hugs CIA-87
17:29.33CIA-87hugs blast007
17:33.23mrapplekills CIA-87
17:33.23CIA-87dies
17:34.34mrappleeats CIA-87
17:34.34CIA-87tastes crunchy
17:34.47mrapplerubs CIA-87's tummy
17:34.47CIA-87*purr*
17:36.41honeytankwtf is up here?!
17:36.55blast007the sun
17:37.07blast007but it will be going back down soon
17:37.26JefferyMit never goes down, you just go away from it
17:37.47mrapplekicks CIA-87
17:37.47CIA-87ow
17:37.52blast007relativity
17:37.59JefferyMgrabity
17:38.05JefferyMphysics is phun
17:38.08blast007yah
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17:44.38CIA-87BZFlag: 03Blast 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7140 10/w/Web_Services/Player_Portal:
17:45.10CIA-87BZFlag: 03Blast 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7141 10/w/Web_Services:
17:45.13CIA-87BZFlag: 03Blast 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7142 10/w/Web_Services/Player_Portal: /* Design Overview */
17:45.23blast007heh, finally
17:45.39honeytankhugs CIA-87
17:45.39CIA-87hugs honeytank
17:45.42honeytankyey
17:45.51CIA-87BZFlag: 03Blast 07http://my.bzflag.org * r7143 10/w/Web_Services/Player_Portal: /* Design Overview */
17:46.03honeytankeats CIA-87
17:46.05CIA-87tastes crunchy
17:46.06honeytankhah
17:46.19honeytankcan it do kiss?
17:46.47honeytankkisses CIA-87
17:46.53honeytankcant ;P
17:47.25honeytanksteals CIA-87
17:47.30honeytankverbtesting
17:47.38honeytankhits CIA-87
17:47.42honeytankhah
17:47.48honeytankbeats CIA-87
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17:47.56blast007honeytank: that's enough..
17:47.57honeytankkills CIA-87
17:47.57CIA-87dies
17:48.01honeytankyay
17:48.11honeytankkilled him finally
17:48.19blast007only reason I did it originally was to see if it was broken
17:50.01loludiedHey JefferyM
17:52.32JefferyMhello
17:52.59mrapplehoneytank: yeah blast had a good reason. i just liking eating him ;P
17:53.01loludiedRemember me?
17:53.10JefferyMsure
17:54.14JefferyMmrapple, umm... eww
17:57.28mrapple-_-
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18:12.40honeytanklikes CIA-87
18:12.45honeytank*cought*
18:13.03Muriellemy bzfs cant load plugin and I did ./configure --disable-client --disable-robots --prefix=/usr/local/ --enable-shared
18:13.14JefferyMinstall windows
18:13.19honeytankbooo!
18:13.22MurielleJefferyM :(
18:13.34JefferyMit works
18:13.36JefferyM;)
18:13.47blast007Murielle: by "canot load plugin" do you mean it says that the /loadplugin command is invalid and/or that the -loadplugin argument is invalid?
18:14.00honeytankcommand is invalid
18:14.06honeytankand /listplugins is invalid too
18:14.06Murielleit only says "/loadplugin" is invalid
18:14.19blast007make sure you actually have libtool installed
18:14.27Murielleok
18:14.36JefferyMit's not a requirement and many don't do it by default
18:14.50blast007and if you don't, install it, and then run configure again with the above options and make / make install
18:15.11Murielleok
18:15.23JefferyMit defaults to enabled in dev right?
18:15.54Murielledunno.i am not admin on this server
18:16.02blast007JefferyM: yeah
18:16.13JefferyMgood
18:16.23blast007Murielle: see if the 'libtool' binary exists
18:16.42Murielleit does exist
18:16.58blast007well, then have fun. You'll have to dig deeper. ;)
18:17.05blast007maybe config.log would have information
18:17.19blast007I'd also suggest running configure, make, and make install again just to be sure
18:17.35Muriellei did it 5 times
18:17.50Muriellelibtool --version
18:17.50Murielleltmain.sh (GNU libtool) 1.5.26
18:18.26blast0071.5.22 here, and mine works ;)
18:18.37JefferyMcurrent is 2.2.10
18:18.39MurielleI want to cry !!
18:19.01JefferyMguess it's windows for you then :)
18:19.11Muriellepity !!
18:19.24blast007her plugin won't work on Windows, if it's the one I'm thinking ;)
18:19.28JefferyMwhy? that another OS makes building easier then command line?
18:19.30blast007calls functions in bzfs directly
18:19.31MurielleI do not deserve such a punition
18:19.42Murielleswitch
18:19.47JefferyMahh yeah that won't work
18:19.51Muriellewindows sucks....
18:20.00JefferyMhopes bz moves to the GCC export stuff
18:20.02Muriellewindows is limited
18:20.07JefferyMnot really
18:20.15JefferyMdepends what you want to do with it
18:20.28blast007if by "limited" you mean "has lots of games", then I totally agree.
18:20.41Muriellehow much does microsoft  pay you, JefferyM, for advertizing windows? :P
18:20.41JefferyMand generaly works for what most people want to do
18:21.00JefferyMMurielle, nothing, I just belive in functionality over political statements
18:21.07Muriellei was joking :)
18:21.13JefferyMheh
18:21.15MurielleI love Seven :)
18:21.21honeytankwindows sucks *cough*
18:21.22JefferyMwhat distro are you on?
18:21.49honeytanki got windows 7, and it defnity doesnt reach my ubuntu 9.10
18:21.50JefferyMand did you run autogen?
18:21.53Murielleon this server, the hoster has installed a debian
18:21.59Murielleautogen, yes
18:22.03JefferyMhmm
18:22.14JefferyMthe debian package IIRC dosn't have plugins enabled
18:22.14Muriellewell...dunno..maybe i think i did it:p
18:22.20JefferyMbut if you autogen it should
18:22.24blast007is bzfs installed from a package too?
18:22.31Muriellesource
18:22.36Muriellesourceforge
18:22.43JefferyMyeah if you are running the package one, not the one you build it won't have plugins
18:22.44blast007points at 'too'
18:23.02JefferyMdid you make install after building?
18:23.08JefferyMor just make then type bzfs
18:23.09MurielleJefferyM:  :)
18:23.18blast007you could just try running bzfs directly from the source tree
18:23.33Muriellei did a make clean
18:23.35blast007src/bzfs/bzfs -loadplugin plugins/whatever/.libs/whatever.so
18:23.38Muriellei am compiling again
18:23.50JefferyMyeah I bet you are running the package version
18:23.52blast007check for .so files inside the .libs directory of your plugins
18:23.53JefferyMnot the built version
18:24.22JefferyMoh and that wonderful plugin system you are using.. it was developed on windows ;)
18:24.42blast007if you have .so files, then it built plugins and plugin support
18:26.00Muriellei have .so and all were installed in /usr/local/lib/bzflag
18:26.14blast007okay
18:26.58blast007also note that our prefix defaults to /usr/local, so you don't need to specify it like you did above
18:27.25Muriellenow it loads.... with a Segmentation fault
18:27.33blast007with your plugin?
18:27.33Muriellei am progressing :)
18:27.43Muriellelol blast007:yes
18:27.43blast007and without your plugin it doens't crash?
18:27.46blast007;)
18:27.56Muriellei think i have to work on it
18:28.02blast007now rebuild it with --enable-debug
18:28.55Muriellei should do a make clean?
18:29.05blast007shrugs
18:29.29blast007built it with --enable-debug where you plan to debug it
18:29.32Murielleruns after every shrugers
18:29.33blast007so on that server, or locally
18:29.53Murielleoi do:)
18:29.55Muriellei do
18:30.07Murielleur sayings are my orders
18:30.09Murielle:)
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19:33.50JefferyMon windows you could possibly attach to the crashed module right when it threw the exception ;)
19:34.09JefferyMmay not get a callstack tho
19:41.45blast007linux you can get a coredump and load that into gdb
19:55.36JefferyMthat will probably give you at least a callstack
19:58.01trepanthere are reasons to avoid windows beyond "political statements", ex: the ability to examine and modify source code
19:58.15JefferyMyep, if that's your thing
19:58.32JefferyMhas never needed to modify his OS or any drivers
19:58.55trepanhas, on a couple of occasions
19:59.00JefferyMcool
20:00.23JefferyMthat's a perfectly rational reason to use linux, I just don't like irrational ones :)
20:01.06JefferyMand it's fun to turn around the 'install linux" thing on people for the things that are prety easy in windows with regards to building bzflag ;)
20:01.43trepanblames the autoconf tools for that one ;)
20:01.55JefferyMprobably
20:02.09trepan(and the multitude of distros with their slight variations)
20:02.10JefferyMautomake/autoconf are mystic sorcery
20:02.27JefferyMstep 1) run autogen, step 2) find a goat
20:02.35trepanand slow, let's not forget slow
20:02.52JefferyMthe proliferation of build systems in various projects can be frustraiting
20:03.11JefferyMI love the concept behind cmake, it's implementation is crap
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20:05.07brlcadheh
20:07.00JefferyMhow was cigraph brlcad ?
20:19.38brlcadlil smaller this year and a much tighter schedule, but overall great time as usual
20:36.42JefferyMcooleo
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