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| 03:48.54 | BulletCatcher | brlcad: Was the duplex mismatch problem recent or longstanding? Just curious. |
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| 15:20.45 | brlcad | BulletCatcher: fairly longstanding |
| 15:21.27 | brlcad | it's been pooching network performance for at least a few months |
| 15:21.41 | brlcad | maybe as early as jan-ish |
| 15:22.18 | brlcad | more than likely, it was when the server was moved to a different rack -- 121 days ago |
| 15:22.32 | brlcad | (per current uptime) |
| 15:23.21 | Manu | hugs brlcad |
| 15:29.33 | BulletCatcher | Huh. I am well acquainted with the consequences of duplex mismatch, but I also know that it isn't always an easy problem to discover. |
| 15:29.58 | BulletCatcher | But fixing it should definitely help everything. |
| 15:48.34 | mrapple | hi - when attempting to run bzupdate.pl in trunk/db/support i get the following error http://pastebin.com/j2FHyLJS |
| 15:51.17 | BulletCatcher | Your Perl needs the perl-libwww-perl module. |
| 15:52.03 | mrapple | ok |
| 15:52.05 | mrapple | thanks |
| 15:52.12 | BulletCatcher | np |
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| 16:03.18 | brlcad | hugs Manu |
| 16:04.02 | brlcad | BulletCatcher: yeah, it took a while to realize that was the problem as it was sporadic, would work fine for certain protocols and not others, outbound was unaffected, etc... |
| 16:04.42 | brlcad | inbound traffic would trickle to a crawl from time to time when uploading data to the server, investigated over a couple weeks |
| 16:04.58 | BulletCatcher | Those are the typical, difficult to recognize symptoms. |
| 16:05.44 | brlcad | once I got the ISP involved, got access to the switch diagnosics, and found a slew of errors |
| 16:08.11 | brlcad | packets getting dropped, fragmentation, jabber, CRC errors, .. |
| 16:08.11 | brlcad | and that of course pointed at a mismatch |
| 16:09.09 | BulletCatcher | The best thing about that problem is that it is easy to fix once it has been diagnosed. |
| 16:31.36 | mrapple | Think this will come in handy :D https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3010573&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
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| 17:21.55 | blast007 | mrapple: post it as a patch. Ex: svn diff > weblogin_name_fix.diff |
| 17:22.09 | mrapple | ok |
| 17:23.18 | blast007 | update the comment that still refers to CVS |
| 17:23.20 | blast007 | updates* |
| 17:24.42 | mrapple | ok done https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3010573&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 17:25.22 | Constitution | mrapple: is that your patch? |
| 17:25.31 | mrapple | er yes |
| 17:26.08 | Constitution | how about selecting the username in the query about 30 lines above and storing that, rather than adding an entire query to get one value? |
| 17:26.16 | mrapple | ill change my display name |
| 17:26.30 | Constitution | it could probably be added to the query on line 204 |
| 17:26.48 | mrapple | hmm good idea :P |
| 17:27.28 | blast007 | and make sure you don't use 'username' in the where clause |
| 17:27.34 | ts | hmm, what should be changed? |
| 17:27.50 | Constitution | admittedly, weblogin isn't called as frequently as something like bzfls, but a little efficiency can go a long way |
| 17:28.32 | mrapple | k |
| 17:28.38 | blast007 | ts: hmm, here's a thought - does the list server return the proper case? |
| 17:28.54 | blast007 | that's probably a better place for it anyway |
| 17:28.57 | mrapple | ok https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3010573&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 17:28.58 | blast007 | in the checktoken stuff |
| 17:29.04 | ts | blast007: hmm, no idea |
| 17:29.29 | ts | blast007: I'd just use the case from the user input in weblogin redirect url |
| 17:31.20 | blast007 | at some point both will work the same - once we get rid of "auth through phpBB" ;) |
| 17:32.44 | blast007 | mrapple: that one looks good. I'll try it out in a bit. |
| 17:32.53 | mrapple | kk |
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| 20:43.51 | Birdie | JefferyM or blast007: cant be the problem of my flicker that my pc is 64 bit? When i go to the game and look to video format, its all 32 bit or less |
| 20:44.54 | blast007 | unrelated |
| 20:45.04 | brad | my brother gets that on his laptop too |
| 20:45.29 | brad | tried lots of different drivers...no change |
| 20:45.36 | blast007 | brad: ATI video chip? |
| 20:45.53 | brad | I can't recall. don't have it here :p |
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| 20:46.10 | brad | it's a sony a vaio |
| 20:46.13 | brad | -a |
| 20:46.17 | blast007 | I'm sorry to hear that |
| 20:46.21 | brad | llol |
| 20:46.48 | Birdie | not that I want to push anything, but do you think fixes for this might be in a next release? |
| 20:46.49 | jorgenpt | Birdie: The bit in the game is number of colors used, bit of your PC (processor) is the standard size of the numbers it can operate on. (Put in laymans terms) |
| 20:47.29 | Birdie | as it seems I'm not the only one with this problem, i fear many more will have it |
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| 20:47.40 | Birdie | jorgnpt: ah thx :) |
| 20:48.11 | blast007 | I think the solution here is just to give in to the evil that is known as nVidia |
| 20:48.29 | blast007 | all hail nVidia |
| 20:50.13 | Birdie | so once you have an Ati your screwed to play :) |
| 20:50.26 | Birdie | ati is something known, didnt thought that would give problems |
| 20:50.28 | blast007 | ATI's have had more problems over the years |
| 20:50.38 | blast007 | more so on linux, though |
| 20:50.55 | blast007 | and more so the older ones ;) |
| 20:51.02 | Birdie | and you think it isnt possible "putting" something in bzflag code to work around the ATI problems? |
| 20:51.04 | blast007 | call ASUS |
| 20:51.19 | JefferyM | Birdie, no video card does 64 bit color, your eyes can't see it ;) |
| 20:51.20 | blast007 | ask them what they think about the problem you are having |
| 20:51.39 | JefferyM | have you turned or or off vsync? |
| 20:52.01 | brad | if it helps, get the same problem in WolfET;) |
| 20:52.06 | brad | another ancient game |
| 20:52.07 | Birdie | how do i see that? |
| 20:52.23 | blast007 | Birdie: there's an option in the catalyst control panel somewhere |
| 20:52.29 | JefferyM | and I know ATI Works with bz, my desktop and laptops are ATI |
| 20:52.56 | JefferyM | I've had a 4850 for a long while now |
| 20:53.00 | bryjen | i had a radeon 7500 the worked OK. not blindingly fast, but it worked. under linux even. |
| 20:54.01 | bryjen | that might've been about where the 3D support in the open source drivers stopped though |
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| 20:55.24 | Birdie | blast007: that catalyst control panel doesnt seem to be installed |
| 20:55.35 | Birdie | i found it |
| 20:55.40 | Birdie | but it asks me to install it |
| 20:55.55 | Birdie | guess it wont do any harm installing that :) |
| 20:56.05 | JefferyM | odd that your drivers did not install it for you |
| 20:56.07 | JefferyM | usualy that's part of it |
| 20:56.49 | blast007 | might be a sign of trouble :P |
| 20:57.12 | JefferyM | indeed |
| 20:57.19 | JefferyM | what language is the OS? |
| 20:57.45 | Birdie | i can choose between ati avivo videoconvertor or screanconfiguration |
| 20:58.01 | Birdie | guess its the second one i have to do? |
| 20:58.07 | Birdie | OS is in dutch |
| 20:58.21 | JefferyM | I'm wondering if we are having you install english drivers and if that is an issue |
| 21:00.25 | Birdie | hmm it does seem to be installed, cause it would let me go through some wizards about several stuff |
| 21:01.31 | blast007 | did you just download the Avivo package? |
| 21:01.39 | blast007 | http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx |
| 21:01.49 | blast007 | you want option 1 there |
| 21:03.30 | Birdie | downloading |
| 21:03.52 | blast007 | and I'd say to uninstall any ATI stuff first and then reboot, and then install that |
| 21:03.57 | blast007 | clean slate :) |
| 21:04.19 | Birdie | i never buy ati again though |
| 21:04.52 | Birdie | this download and install would cover all stuff that i would uninstall? |
| 21:05.00 | blast007 | I don't know |
| 21:05.10 | blast007 | I don't have an ATI, nor do I know what all is installed |
| 21:05.37 | blast007 | (restore disk ftw!) |
| 21:06.17 | Birdie | i'veonly had troubles with restore discs before |
| 21:06.28 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 21:06.31 | blast007 | mine works |
| 21:06.36 | blast007 | I put it in, boot, hit OK, and wait |
| 21:06.46 | blast007 | then I get to update Vista all over again |
| 21:06.52 | blast007 | which is so much fun |
| 21:06.54 | JefferyM | that all sounds like video codec and accelerator stuff |
| 21:06.59 | JefferyM | should not matter for 3d |
| 21:07.16 | Birdie | some weeks ago some one asked me to format their pc with recovery cd's, all went fine, till pc started up again, nothing formatted and everything the same |
| 21:07.16 | blast007 | JefferyM: what does? the Avivo thing? |
| 21:07.30 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 21:07.31 | blast007 | cuz I was just wondering if he downloaded the wrong thing yesterday |
| 21:07.38 | blast007 | I had linked him to that page |
| 21:07.42 | JefferyM | ahh |
| 21:07.44 | Birdie | and ok my screan just screwed up during the install, the screan i'm typing in is only a very little part of my 17 inch anymore :( |
| 21:08.04 | JefferyM | IRC AVIVO is the stuff for blueray accel, and video in/out |
| 21:08.21 | blast007 | Birdie: your screen might not support stretching, and it probably dropped your resolution down |
| 21:08.37 | JefferyM | many laptops do that |
| 21:08.41 | blast007 | (or the stretching is done via the video driver) |
| 21:09.02 | JefferyM | yeah AVIVIO is what does the HDCP support |
| 21:09.43 | Birdie | did my resolution on max again |
| 21:09.47 | Birdie | but it still isnt fine |
| 21:09.50 | Birdie | still not big enough |
| 21:10.27 | blast007 | what did you do? did you uninstall the old driver? or did you already install the new one? |
| 21:10.42 | Birdie | installed the new one |
| 21:10.57 | Birdie | bzflag doesnt flicker anymore |
| 21:11.00 | Birdie | at least thats a good thing |
| 21:11.01 | blast007 | heh |
| 21:11.10 | Birdie | but if you can just help me to get my resolution fine again, that would be great |
| 21:11.23 | blast007 | chants the "make it work" spell |
| 21:11.26 | blast007 | does it work now? |
| 21:11.27 | JefferyM | what is the max res that is shown when you try to set it? |
| 21:11.44 | Birdie | 1152x864 |
| 21:11.59 | JefferyM | is that in windows or the ATI control panel? |
| 21:12.21 | Birdie | windows |
| 21:12.26 | Birdie | right click on desktop |
| 21:12.33 | JefferyM | is there an option to "redetect display" ? |
| 21:12.51 | Birdie | i see a button "detect" |
| 21:12.55 | JefferyM | try it |
| 21:12.55 | Birdie | but it doesnt do much when i press on it |
| 21:13.05 | JefferyM | you may want to try and restart |
| 21:13.05 | Birdie | under "detect" there is a button identify |
| 21:13.18 | JefferyM | sounds like the card don't know the full res of the display |
| 21:13.36 | Birdie | ok i'll restart |
| 21:14.47 | blast007 | "The Radeon 5145 that this notebook uses is a rebrand of the Radeon 4570 from the previous generation." yay for rebrands |
| 21:15.24 | JefferyM | that's what everyone does now |
| 21:15.44 | JefferyM | my 4200 is a rebrand/upclock of the 3200 :) |
| 21:15.58 | JefferyM | still should be a decent chipset |
| 21:17.53 | blast007 | just not DX11 like the higher end 5xxx's |
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| 21:29.58 | Birdie | Sorry it took ages to reboot |
| 21:30.15 | Birdie | windows seems have needed configuring a lot |
| 21:30.19 | Birdie | resolution is fine now |
| 21:31.23 | Birdie | blast and jeff, thx a lot for your time, patience and help |
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| 21:42.49 | JefferyM | cool |
| 21:48.39 | blast007 | Birdie: and bzflag works? :D |
| 21:48.44 | blast007 | cuz that's the important part |
| 21:50.49 | Birdie | it does, but now the problems again to find all my old settings back |
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| 23:30.28 | smoooth | Birdie: I might consider one of two things 1. Check all your energy saving features on your windows 7 laptop 2. If that doens't fix it, Wipe windows 7, install Linux and forget about your problems |
| 23:30.38 | smoooth | :) |
| 23:31.02 | blast007 | smoooth: he got it working |
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