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| 01:02.53 | blast007 | any bztank admin around? there's a user on there that's been rather vulgar. Name starts with "pump" if you want to go get rid of him. |
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| 01:32.33 | temporalD | blast007: I am - missed him - will try to find his current IP and ban it |
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| 01:38.33 | temporalD | [SERVER->] 71.195.32.103 (523990.0 minutes) banned by: temporal distraction |
| 01:39.02 | JeffM2501 | you ban yourself again? |
| 01:39.25 | temporalD | :) no - that's the IP for that troll that blast007 mentioned above |
| 01:39.38 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 01:39.45 | JeffM2501 | musta missed that |
| 01:41.59 | blast007 | temporalD: thanks. :) |
| 01:42.27 | blast007 | confirms he's already banned on my server. logDetail doesn't always show the 'join' when someone is banned... |
| 01:42.29 | temporalD | he changes IPs often - probably doesn't make sense to do a year ban |
| 01:42.44 | temporalD | could ban all of MN Comcast - lol |
| 01:43.00 | temporalD | or I could geolocate and go kick his butt |
| 01:43.15 | JeffM2501 | geolocate is often off by a lot |
| 01:43.22 | JeffM2501 | it says I live in los angeles |
| 01:43.26 | temporalD | probably right down the street from me |
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| 02:03.55 | JeffM2501 | who here has (as in uses on a game machine ) a video card older/less powerful then a GeForce 6000 serries or an ATI 9000 series? |
| 02:06.26 | JeffM2501 | I'd think even macs would have a 6000 or better |
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| 02:11.16 | JeffM2501 | sorry make that radeon X1000 series :/ |
| 02:12.37 | blast007 | Does an Intel 845 classify this as a "game machine"? Wait, wait, I know the answer to that question. ;) |
| 02:12.45 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:13.06 | JeffM2501 | 845 dosnt' have any shades |
| 02:13.08 | blast007 | though the Intel 945 at work can almost run Portal |
| 02:13.16 | blast007 | crashes though |
| 02:13.17 | JeffM2501 | 900 has shader 2 |
| 02:13.23 | blast007 | right after you go through the first portal |
| 02:13.26 | JeffM2501 | teh X3000 has shader 3 |
| 02:13.54 | blast007 | and when I say "run" I mean "lowest settings and still slow" |
| 02:13.59 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:14.14 | blast007 | when I had the portal depth set at 1, it was slide-show mode |
| 02:14.35 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:14.51 | blast007 | my mom has a 7900GTO, but that's just cuz I upgraded my box |
| 02:14.55 | blast007 | (nvidia) |
| 02:15.23 | blast007 | I would think most "gamers" would have at least a GF6 |
| 02:15.39 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 02:15.40 | blast007 | even my terrible laptop has a 7600GT |
| 02:15.51 | JeffM2501 | that' means at least GL2 |
| 02:16.13 | blast007 | "You mean my TNT2 isn't new enough??" |
| 02:17.09 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:17.45 | JeffM2501 | I think GL 3 would take it up to a high end 8k/9k series |
| 02:17.53 | JeffM2501 | and that's probalby more restrictive |
| 02:19.34 | blast007 | it "might" even work on the FX series |
| 02:19.37 | blast007 | "GeForce FX series has limited OpenGL 2.1 support(with the last Windows XP driver released for it, 175.19)." |
| 02:19.43 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 02:19.57 | JeffM2501 | the FXs were buggy :) |
| 02:20.09 | blast007 | I have an FX 5200 here yet ;) |
| 02:20.24 | JeffM2501 | that card sucked compared to what else was around at the time |
| 02:20.31 | JeffM2501 | as in before it |
| 02:20.38 | blast007 | currently in my PIII system |
| 02:20.40 | JeffM2501 | a GF4 was better for most things at the time |
| 02:20.42 | blast007 | PCI only |
| 02:21.02 | blast007 | was a lot better than the intel 810 onboard ;) |
| 02:21.07 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:21.44 | JeffM2501 | trepan, I think you convinced me, shaders or nothin ;) |
| 02:21.56 | JeffM2501 | wants GITS style thermoptic-camo anyway |
| 02:22.26 | blast007 | hehehe |
| 02:22.34 | blast007 | that would be sweet |
| 02:22.56 | JeffM2501 | it should not be too hard to render it as mostly transperant, and jitter the r,g,b channels around a smidge |
| 02:23.10 | JeffM2501 | make it so you can see it if you look hard ;) |
| 02:23.20 | JeffM2501 | maybe tie the jitter to speed |
| 02:23.26 | blast007 | :) |
| 02:23.29 | JeffM2501 | harder to see the slower you go |
| 02:23.59 | JeffM2501 | I want "radar" to work like that, the faster you go, the more you shoot, the more accurate your position on the sensor display is |
| 02:25.39 | JeffM2501 | not that I need to care now, the first client is friggin text only :) |
| 02:28.56 | blast007 | "look west" "You see a tank. You are dead." |
| 02:29.07 | JeffM2501 | heh] |
| 02:29.25 | JeffM2501 | more of a client/server regression test |
| 02:29.52 | JeffM2501 | it starts a server in a thread, then connects the client code to it, does a full login and makes sure it gets all the messages |
| 02:30.48 | JeffM2501 | hmm here's a decent chart of what hardware supports what, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_shader#Hardware |
| 02:35.19 | BulletCatcher | If it helps, I have a GeForce 6100, but that is merely "as old as" rather than older. |
| 02:35.39 | JeffM2501 | do you consider it an old card? |
| 02:35.59 | JeffM2501 | as in would you replace it if you found a game that would not work on it? |
| 02:36.00 | BulletCatcher | It is on the motherboard of my 3-year old system. |
| 02:36.33 | JeffM2501 | yeah they shipped a lot of those onboard |
| 02:36.45 | BulletCatcher | At this point, if I needed something better I wouldn't hesitate to get it. |
| 02:36.51 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 02:36.52 | BulletCatcher | But it works fine for BZFlag. :-) |
| 02:36.55 | JeffM2501 | yeah it does |
| 02:37.06 | blast007 | I consider the 7500GT in my other laptop 'old' because it can't run CUDA ;) |
| 02:37.12 | JeffM2501 | tho 7k card would run ya 18$ |
| 02:37.19 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:37.46 | BulletCatcher | (Actually, my system is about 4 years old now.) |
| 02:38.24 | blast007 | not actually sure how good the 7500GT is because the CPU in that thing sucks. It's a 1.6GHz Turion X2 with poor cooling |
| 02:38.26 | JeffM2501 | video card and drives are the only thing I've replaced in this system since I built it |
| 02:38.43 | blast007 | so it constantly downclocks to 800MHz (doens't have any speeds between full and half) |
| 02:39.02 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:39.19 | JeffM2501 | my gut is telling me that GL2 is a reasonable requrement |
| 02:39.26 | blast007 | yeah |
| 02:40.18 | JeffM2501 | wow, you can get a 8400 for 28$ |
| 02:41.54 | JeffM2501 | the more code that's in a shader, the faster it'll run too. there is a hit for each managed GL call as it marshals |
| 02:44.23 | BulletCatcher | "Two Guys and a Tank" http://www.mrboffo.com/comicsweb/mrboffoweb/strips/20100318bfo_s_web.jpg |
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| 13:50.12 | dexter- | Chestal: ping |
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| 14:00.59 | atrixnet | Has anyone heard of or seen user wooley beast |
| 14:01.20 | atrixnet | Also using alias wobe |
| 14:01.24 | atrixnet | ? |
| 14:03.07 | atrixnet | ahs3-:ping |
| 14:03.13 | atrixnet | ahs3:ping |
| 14:04.06 | atrixnet | blast: ping |
| 14:04.16 | blast007 | atrixnet: pong |
| 14:04.18 | blast007 | and no |
| 14:04.51 | atrixnet | I have reason to suspect that he is skeletron based on capn data |
| 14:05.08 | atrixnet | His ip and host match |
| 14:05.29 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 14:05.44 | blast007 | if his IP matches exactly, then yeah, that's a *good* indication ;) |
| 14:05.45 | atrixnet | I wanted others to be aware |
| 14:05.58 | atrixnet | And keep an eye out |
| 14:07.02 | atrixnet | Ok well that's all |
| 14:07.04 | blast007 | I don't even see a player by that name |
| 14:07.08 | blast007 | so what is their actual name? |
| 14:07.32 | atrixnet | Harry peanus, according to him |
| 14:07.44 | atrixnet | He's got a registered nick |
| 14:08.11 | atrixnet | I just know how to spell wooley perhaps |
| 14:08.22 | atrixnet | I looked him up |
| 14:09.12 | atrixnet | I have to attend to the matter of adding his info to my ban list |
| 14:10.33 | atrixnet | So gtg. Just wanted to leave warning. According to capn data sk3 has been very active and destructive lately |
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| 17:22.44 | atrixnet | Before I write my own, is there a tool to let you import capn data into your own server's ban list? |
| 17:23.13 | blast007 | you'd have to ask the one who runs capn |
| 17:23.16 | atrixnet | If not, I'm writing one in perl and will give it to anyone who wants it |
| 17:23.17 | blast007 | it's not a public system |
| 17:23.28 | atrixnet | I know that |
| 17:23.30 | blast007 | talk to them. |
| 17:23.36 | atrixnet | I am in capn |
| 17:23.49 | blast007 | yeah... I kinda gathered that |
| 17:23.53 | atrixnet | I know there are others here |
| 17:23.58 | blast007 | but ask the one(s) who run it |
| 17:24.06 | blast007 | email them |
| 17:24.23 | blast007 | and then if they don't have one, they could post the tool on their *private* site |
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| 22:10.58 | shining^ | jeffm: hey |
| 22:11.06 | jeffm | sup? |
| 22:11.21 | shining^ | this is the testsuite I already heard about / quickly tried a while ago : http://people.freedesktop.org/~nh/piglit/ |
| 22:11.44 | shining^ | this is regularly used by mesa developers and users |
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| 22:13.04 | jeffm | funh |
| 22:13.21 | jeffm | sounds like they just need to add some old stuf to those tests |
| 22:13.27 | shining^ | you can get cool html outputs like this : http://people.freedesktop.org/~nh/piglit/results/all/index.html |
| 22:13.39 | shining^ | or just make all the existing test pass first :) |
| 22:14.10 | jeffm | that too |
| 22:14.14 | shining^ | I didnt check yet whether the few bzflag issues I had would be covered by existing test or not |
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| 22:15.18 | shining^ | but the coverage doesnt seem bad. and its much more practical to find regressions, I will try to run that regularly and collect results now |
| 22:15.41 | jeffm | yeah formal testing is never bad |
| 22:17.01 | shining^ | s/formal/automated :) |
| 22:17.13 | jeffm | not always |
| 22:17.26 | jeffm | stuff can be missed in automated tests |
| 22:17.45 | jeffm | meat has to look at it at some point |
| 22:19.08 | jeffm | but automation is a good tool to maximise what the meat can do :) |
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