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| 02:40.32 | remote | http://bzf.cjb.net/tips/pbperf.jpg |
| 02:40.55 | remote | can you make a radar big like that without changing the code of bzflag and is that considered cheating? |
| 02:41.57 | mrapplecomputer1 | remote: not that big, thats considered full screen radar which is a cheat but you can make it pretty big if you edit the conf iirc |
| 02:42.00 | temporalD | remote: I'm pretty sure radarsize is a variable in the conf.cfg file |
| 02:42.04 | me1 | 2.0.2 and older can do that |
| 02:42.16 | mrapplecomputer1 | yeah thats what i thaught |
| 02:42.50 | me1 | it isn't "cheating", but it is looked down apart by most people, as it is an unfair advantage others do not have |
| 02:43.07 | blast007 | isn't it an illegal change for GU? |
| 02:43.10 | me1 | for example, you are not allowed to use full-screen radar in the leagues |
| 02:43.31 | blast007 | or is that one that is whitelisted? |
| 02:43.31 | remote | yeah all changes to the code is a cheat iirc |
| 02:43.31 | me1 | yes |
| 02:43.32 | me1 | and if I see someone playing with 2.0.2, I'll ask them to upgrade |
| 02:43.33 | me1 | 2.0.2 is ancient |
| 02:43.42 | remote | but there's no way to tell |
| 02:43.52 | remote | that's one "cheat" that can't be caught |
| 02:43.57 | me1 | there isn't |
| 02:44.00 | me1 | that is true |
| 02:44.14 | temporalD | I think "all changes to the code is a cheat" is going too far - you can change it without giving yourself an advantage |
| 02:44.39 | me1 | remote, if you use full-screen radar in the leagues, that is considered cheating, if that is what you are asking |
| 02:45.00 | remote | i can see now why good players can dodge so well |
| 02:45.10 | remote | some must use that |
| 02:45.14 | mrapplecomputer1 | yeah |
| 02:45.29 | mrapplecomputer1 | just fyi, the highest value is 30 for radarsize iirc |
| 02:45.37 | me1 | remote, the largest size radar in the latest version is still very big |
| 02:45.46 | remote | yeah i have it maxed out |
| 02:45.55 | remote | but i always wanted a full screen radar |
| 02:46.01 | me1 | a big radar doesn't equate to good dodging |
| 02:46.45 | me1 | heck, i'll go as far as to say that the difference in dodging ability between size 30 and full screen is bearly noticeable |
| 02:46.48 | remote | so why not allow radar size to be maxed out? |
| 02:46.50 | me1 | for me, it just distracts me |
| 02:47.00 | remote | if it was on 2.0.2 and now it's been removed it's been removed on purpose |
| 02:47.17 | remote | well i just use radar and whenever i happen to look outside of it i die |
| 02:47.20 | me1 | remote, it was a design decision, bzflag is ment to be a 3d game, not a 2d game with jumping |
| 02:47.28 | remote | ok |
| 02:47.34 | me1 | full screen radar effectivly made bzflag 2d |
| 02:47.54 | remote | if the user decides to do so |
| 02:48.41 | remote | well, i don't want to argue with the decision, it's just my opinion |
| 02:48.51 | remote | and it's been made it's been made so hah! |
| 02:48.58 | remote | thanks for your answers |
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| 02:50.58 | JeffM | full screen radar is only a cheat for some servers |
| 02:51.02 | JeffM | GU specificaly |
| 02:51.35 | JeffM | we limit it because we feel bzflag is a 3d game, but it's not really a cheat itself |
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| 22:05.13 | jorgenpt | Aargh. My bad. |
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