| 00:00.16 | trepan | (fwiw, the full URL is of the form mumble://[USER[:PASS]@]SERVER/CHANNEL ) |
| 00:01.19 | Flash | so what is this Hub thing anyway? |
| 00:01.28 | Atluxity | thats what i want to know too |
| 00:01.33 | trepan | global chat |
| 00:01.43 | trepan | very much like IRC, but in the bzflag client console |
| 00:01.59 | Flash | I have a red Hub tab |
| 00:02.18 | trepan | red means unread, just like for the other tabs |
| 00:03.14 | trepan | if you go to the Help or ChangeKeyMapping sections, you'll see the new'ish Prev/Next control for tabs |
| 00:03.53 | Flash | different authentication than the server? |
| 00:04.14 | trepan | it uses BZBB auth |
| 00:05.31 | trepan | (there's a 'Copy Login' entry in the 'Hub Settings (global chat)' options menu) |
| 00:09.57 | Flash | The Options UI is just a tad counter-intuitive |
| 00:10.26 | Flash | the "Copy Login" option should probably be above the user/password |
| 00:11.07 | Flash | I sure wish I could fix this font rendering thing... the delay on GL context switch is painful |
| 00:11.55 | trepan | you might try setting blockResizeRecontext and blockExposeRecontext BZDB variables |
| 00:12.05 | trepan | they work for linux, not sure about ma |
| 00:12.08 | trepan | *macosx |
| 00:13.20 | Flash | in the config file? |
| 00:13.24 | Flash | set them to what? |
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| 01:12.20 | Atluxity | BulletCatcher, do you know how I can see what grafic-card linux detects? |
| 01:16.31 | Atluxity | i found the specs for the computer provided by the retailer i bought it from, never mind |
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| 11:11.31 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03t-s * r20664 10/trunk/bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX/MacDisplay.cxx: spelling |
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| 15:22.50 | philcostin | does anyone know who I should talk to about submitting my patch for BZFlag? |
| 15:24.42 | cygal | submit the patch on the patch tracker and talk about it here :) |
| 15:24.58 | philcostin | nice, well part one is done :) |
| 15:25.10 | philcostin | my patch adds support for Haiku OS to SVN |
| 15:25.13 | philcostin | but... |
| 15:25.23 | philcostin | it's not /quite/ working yet.. but it's close |
| 15:25.34 | brlcad | philcostin: was just going to ask if you were working on haiku port |
| 15:25.44 | brlcad | was looking at the patch (briefly) |
| 15:26.05 | philcostin | brlcad: probably not continuously, but I figured there couldn't be much work involved to get it close |
| 15:26.27 | philcostin | I have 2.0.12 working right now.. but the SVN was trickier |
| 15:26.55 | philcostin | I didn't do 2.0.12 cleanly, though. It was just something I did very quickly to see if it would work |
| 15:27.00 | brlcad | svn is more interesting ;) |
| 15:27.04 | philcostin | :P |
| 15:27.40 | philcostin | the patch allows it to compile right the way up to the 3D subfolder |
| 15:28.03 | philcostin | there is some issue with GL which is preventing it going further |
| 15:28.22 | philcostin | I think Mesa includes the funcitonality but it is not exposed in a header on Haiku |
| 15:29.17 | brlcad | can you be more specific, which functionality? |
| 15:29.33 | philcostin | sure, -- ah that was it: glew |
| 15:29.48 | philcostin | (I think it was glew) |
| 15:30.52 | philcostin | boots Haiku to check |
| 15:33.40 | philcostin | (it was..) just checking the actual error |
| 15:33.54 | brlcad | understandable |
| 15:34.18 | philcostin | 2.0.12 didn't need it for some reason |
| 15:34.32 | brlcad | should be possible to make that conditional |
| 15:34.38 | philcostin | hopefully |
| 15:35.40 | philcostin | the very first error is: |
| 15:36.09 | philcostin | ../other/glew/src/glew.c: In function '_glewInit_GL_VERSION_1_2': |
| 15:36.40 | philcostin | glew.c: 2180: error: 'glXGetProcAddressARB' undeclared (first usage in this function) |
| 15:37.04 | philcostin | however, I couldn't find any other GetProcAddress function in Haiku's header files |
| 15:37.13 | philcostin | any ideas? |
| 15:39.02 | brlcad | ah, so it's actually in our bundled compilation of glew, hmm |
| 15:39.55 | brlcad | that's a GLX symbol, what version of GLX does haiku support? |
| 15:40.09 | brlcad | surprising that it supports any glx symbols really.. :) |
| 15:40.11 | philcostin | haiku doesn't support GLX since it has no X server |
| 15:40.14 | philcostin | :P |
| 15:41.11 | brlcad | so it sounds like glew needs to be patched as well, or you'll have to stub the places in our code that use gl extensions |
| 15:41.21 | philcostin | there is a header file which contains a wglGetProcAddressARB declaration but not one that is specific to Haiku |
| 15:41.31 | brlcad | wgl is windows |
| 15:41.47 | philcostin | yeah |
| 15:42.08 | brlcad | sounds like someone ported some windows gl implementation to haiku instead of starting with glx |
| 15:42.08 | philcostin | there are a lot of places that use gl Extensions |
| 15:42.36 | philcostin | I wondered that, so I tried using the wgl method, but discovered that was not the reason |
| 15:42.54 | brlcad | what if you just stub in a glXGetProcAddressARB and have it return false |
| 15:43.08 | philcostin | hmmm... |
| 15:43.12 | philcostin | worth a try |
| 15:43.23 | philcostin | brb |
| 15:43.36 | brlcad | basically, just try to trick glew and/or our code into thinking that there just aren't any extensions |
| 15:43.53 | philcostin | interesting idea.. it might work |
| 15:44.07 | brlcad | probably will disable things like texturing and fonts, but might make some progress |
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| 15:52.04 | philcostin | brlcad: that solved some of the errors :) |
| 15:52.34 | brlcad | heh |
| 15:52.35 | philcostin | now I have a whole list of: |
| 15:52.43 | brlcad | a short term hack, to say the least |
| 15:52.49 | jigp | sup tim |
| 15:52.58 | brlcad | would need more info on how haiku does gl to fix it better |
| 15:53.13 | brlcad | btw, how is mmu_man |
| 15:53.33 | philcostin | error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or __attribute__' before '__glewXGetCurrentDisplay' |
| 15:53.40 | philcostin | oh, he's doing well I think |
| 15:53.44 | philcostin | he's over in #haiku |
| 15:54.00 | philcostin | well, he was |
| 15:54.07 | brlcad | yeah, I figure, see him a coule times a year when I give haiku a try :) |
| 15:54.12 | philcostin | :P |
| 15:54.37 | philcostin | although he ported BZF in 2004, I was surprised how simple it was to get 2.0.12 working |
| 15:54.51 | brlcad | has been following progress from way-back-when, long time Be user |
| 15:55.01 | philcostin | ah =) |
| 15:55.17 | philcostin | I never used BeOS back then, I've only recently discovered how good it was |
| 15:55.21 | brlcad | used to be my primary system |
| 15:55.37 | philcostin | I'm currently porting Gens/GS to haiku, too |
| 15:55.54 | philcostin | that's going to need a bit more work I think |
| 15:56.07 | brlcad | last time I gave it a try was before they got self-hosting working, so it's actually been on my to-do list to give it another go |
| 15:56.15 | brlcad | I have a couple projects I'd love to see working there |
| 15:56.34 | brlcad | bzflag being one, so coolness that you're working on it ;) |
| 15:56.40 | philcostin | it runs pretty well, and there is even a wifi driver in progress |
| 15:57.13 | philcostin | :) It was really just a spur of the moment idea - weekend job - wonder if I can get it to work |
| 15:57.38 | philcostin | it's unlikely I'll maintain it as such but if it breaks I'll probably want to figure out why and fix it :P |
| 15:58.15 | philcostin | I was relieved that the BEOS parts hadn't been stripped out of the code to clean it up |
| 15:58.40 | philcostin | (of BZflag that is) |
| 16:01.01 | brlcad | yeah, I thought about it many times |
| 16:01.31 | brlcad | technically, we'd probably rather port sdl to haiku as it's already a complete port |
| 16:01.48 | brlcad | but then that's a bigger job |
| 16:02.38 | philcostin | I decided not to use SDL for my Gens/GS port. At least not initially, since with emulators you can pretty much just blit the framebuffer |
| 16:04.46 | philcostin | O_O it worked |
| 16:04.57 | philcostin | glew problem: goodbye. |
| 16:05.00 | philcostin | thanks! |
| 16:05.23 | brlcad | ah, I see the issue in glew .. glXGetCurrentDisplay is just the last fallback case |
| 16:05.24 | philcostin | should probably re-include the extension checks. but for now, it it works I'm happy |
| 16:05.58 | philcostin | I added a check with the checks for !defined(__APPLE__ ) || defined(APPLE_GLX) |
| 16:06.16 | philcostin | brackets around those and && !defined(__HAIKU__) |
| 16:06.22 | brlcad | in src/other/glew? |
| 16:06.25 | philcostin | then the glX extensions don't bother it |
| 16:06.29 | philcostin | yep |
| 16:06.56 | brlcad | do you have any GetProcAddress functions in your system headers? |
| 16:07.09 | philcostin | I did not find any. |
| 16:07.18 | brlcad | none *anywhere* |
| 16:07.18 | philcostin | this could mean no extensions at all |
| 16:07.37 | philcostin | I'll take another look, but the only one I know of is glut-specific |
| 16:07.38 | brlcad | kind of hard to fathom because even opengl 1.0 defines that |
| 16:08.33 | brlcad | it should be in the opengl kit |
| 16:08.35 | philcostin | yeah; you would have thought there would be a way to query extensions since GL basically is "extensions" |
| 16:08.42 | philcostin | I'll double check that.. |
| 16:08.52 | philcostin | if it's there, then great.. if not, that's a haiku issue |
| 16:08.56 | brlcad | be supported 1.1 back in the day |
| 16:08.59 | philcostin | other applications work so it must be there :S |
| 16:09.20 | brlcad | suspect it's just tucked away in some kit header |
| 16:10.23 | philcostin | most likely... |
| 16:10.26 | philcostin | searches |
| 16:11.15 | brlcad | nm libGL.so | grep ProcAddress |
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| 16:11.38 | philcostin | do'h |
| 16:11.42 | philcostin | slaps forehead |
| 16:11.54 | philcostin | you know what. I was searching for "ARB" as part of the name |
| 16:11.58 | philcostin | it's been core for ages |
| 16:12.05 | philcostin | it's there. I can fix that now :P |
| 16:12.15 | brlcad | yeah, ARB is what it was originally called |
| 16:12.29 | brlcad | 1.3 or 1.4 dropped it as an extension |
| 16:12.37 | brlcad | part of core api now |
| 16:13.09 | brlcad | see if you can figure out which version of gl/mesa was ported |
| 16:13.22 | philcostin | on second thoughts... |
| 16:13.23 | brlcad | because it might be that you shouldn't even be calling glewInit_GL_VERSION_1_2() |
| 16:13.28 | philcostin | it're rally not there |
| 16:13.31 | brlcad | maybe 1_3 or 1_4 |
| 16:13.33 | philcostin | *really not there |
| 16:14.00 | philcostin | the version of mesa ported to haiku is at least 7.4 |
| 16:14.03 | philcostin | possibly newer |
| 16:14.28 | brlcad | yeah, but the corresponding ogl it conforms to |
| 16:14.46 | brlcad | could have hacked pretty much anything to get it to work |
| 16:14.51 | philcostin | hmm, true.. I think Mesa has supported 1_5 for a while now, though |
| 16:15.08 | philcostin | 2_1 is the current profile |
| 16:15.12 | philcostin | and that's 7.5 |
| 16:15.45 | brlcad | so then it should probably be calling glewInit_GL_VERSION_2_1() .. have to figure out the right compilation flags to get that |
| 16:17.57 | philcostin | I'm beginning to wonder whether it is an issue of a missing header or a missing line - mesa is bound to have defined the function. Maybe I just need to stub the declaration. |
| 16:18.28 | philcostin | or rather - declare it. |
| 16:25.28 | brlcad | nm the .so file for libGL.so and/or mesa .. it'll list or not if it's there |
| 16:26.59 | philcostin | yeah.. I'll try that in a sec |
| 16:27.18 | philcostin | I have arrived at the part where I was yesterday when porting 2.0.12 |
| 16:27.28 | philcostin | I'll fix these bits and check that library |
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| 22:44.09 | philcostin | brlcad: Haiku port patch submitted, tested and working! |
| 22:44.37 | brlcad | saw it |
| 22:44.43 | philcostin | I was careful not to break anything in the process but it's worth a careful look I guess |
| 22:44.46 | philcostin | oh you saw it just now? |
| 22:44.47 | brlcad | coolness, I'll see if I can review it tonight |
| 22:44.51 | philcostin | :) |
| 22:45.01 | philcostin | awesome, well thanks for the help by the way! |
| 22:45.07 | brlcad | some of us get notifications on all activity |
| 22:45.08 | philcostin | I'm off to bed now, it's late here |
| 22:45.12 | philcostin | nice :P |
| 22:45.27 | brlcad | nice work and thanks! |
| 22:45.37 | brlcad | i'll post any comments to the tracker if there's a problem |
| 22:45.52 | philcostin | no problem :P BZflag is great fun and needed haiku support :P |
| 22:46.22 | philcostin | the only problem I had was quitting the app. but that can be fixed easily later. |
| 22:47.06 | philcostin | goodnight |
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| 22:55.49 | belvis | question... |
| 22:56.10 | belvis | this is what I have for my MG settings ... -set _mGunAdLife 3.5 -set _mGunAdRate 10 |
| 22:56.20 | belvis | which one of these do i set to make the shots go farther? |
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| 23:02.30 | Flash | did you try experimenting? |
| 23:02.51 | Flash | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.02 | belvis | yeah |
| 23:03.04 | belvis | Flash: |
| 23:03.07 | Flash | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.09 | belvis | but just never would go farther |
| 23:03.12 | belvis | hmm ok |
| 23:03.55 | belvis | i set to 20 just to get some action |
| 23:03.59 | belvis | but we'll see |
| 23:04.10 | belvis | i'd like to get it how the desert war map has it. |
| 23:04.45 | Flash | maybe smaller? |
| 23:05.14 | Flash | foxburrow has _mGunAdLife 0.1 |
| 23:05.16 | belvis | flash nope made is shorter |
| 23:05.24 | belvis | hmm ... ill try crazy short |
| 23:05.28 | temp_dist | the number of shots affects those settings too |
| 23:06.12 | temp_dist | The Compound has 6 shots - and the settings are: _mGunAdLife 0.020000 1.0 / _mGunAdRate _mGunAdRate 50.000000 50 _mGunAdVel 25.000000 25 |
| 23:08.04 | belvis | it goes longer temp_dist & flash but it goes slower now |
| 23:09.16 | temp_dist | _shotSpeed is set to 100 at the Compound also |
| 23:12.29 | belvis | hmm |
| 23:12.35 | belvis | my shot speed is slightly higher than most |
| 23:12.40 | belvis | set to 180 |
| 23:14.18 | temp_dist | so make the _shotAdLife a bit longer too |
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| 23:16.06 | belvis | ok used these settings... -set _mGunAdLife 0.04 -set _mGunAdRate 20 -set _mGunAdVel 10 |
| 23:16.12 | belvis | works perfectly |
| 23:16.23 | belvis | thanks for the help temp_dist & Flash |
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