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| 00:47.54 | jcp | Is there any particular reason why I can compile a bzflag plugin on linux with only bzfsAPI.h (in addition to the plugin's actual source and stuff), whereas windows needs some bzfs.lib file? |
| 01:14.18 | jcp | Now I'm getting an error about that "sys/param.h" can't be found |
| 01:14.18 | jcp | http://pastebin.com/m3d7b0e9e |
| 01:14.34 | jcp | I've never had that before when building 2.0.10 on windows. Anyone have any ideas what's going on? |
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| 01:30.18 | spongebobspermpa | hey guys |
| 01:30.42 | spongebobspermpa | just got done tk/running on bzexcess |
| 01:30.47 | spongebobspermpa | it was pretty fun |
| 01:30.57 | spongebobspermpa | looks like i got the banz |
| 01:31.01 | spongebobspermpa | no biggie |
| 01:31.04 | spongebobspermpa | ill be back |
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| 01:31.44 | spongebobspermpa | coming for you a_meteorite |
| 01:31.58 | spongebobspermpa | every chance i get boyeeee |
| 01:32.18 | spongebobspermpa | and emp_dist i havent forgotten about you either |
| 01:32.24 | spongebobspermpa | temp_dist: |
| 01:32.33 | spongebobspermpa | it are on |
| 01:33.03 | spongebobspermpa | aww yeah |
| 01:33.09 | spongebobspermpa | gon' make you get pony |
| 01:33.13 | spongebobspermpa | uhh huh |
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| 03:32.12 | nobody | cares about spongebob |
| 05:10.06 | a_meteorite | wat. |
| 05:19.00 | jorgenpt | wat |
| 05:19.03 | jorgenpt | in the butt |
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| 05:58.43 | monstertruck1 | to anyone who is an admin at missilewars |
| 05:58.59 | monstertruck1 | would you be so kind to remove the ban on comcast |
| 06:00.23 | monstertruck1 | the only other isp i can use is evdo, and that is too jittery to play anymore than 5 min |
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| 14:32.28 | mrapplecomputer1 | planet mofo admin/cop please head over to bzflag.planet-mofo.com:4242 |
| 14:33.33 | mrapplecomputer1 | i have a person for you to add to CAPN |
| 14:43.55 | mrapplecomputer1 | to late now -.- |
| 14:47.03 | Constitution | *too |
| 14:47.27 | Constitution | to, too, two... pear, pare, pair... darned english |
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| 16:42.55 | Scrumpy | Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me. I've succeeded to get the server compiled on hpux (11.23) by modifying the source |
| 16:43.34 | Scrumpy | I'm now trying to find out where the best place is to put the modifications |
| 16:44.03 | Scrumpy | 1) AddrLen should be socklen_t on hpux |
| 16:45.50 | Scrumpy | 2) hstrerror did not get defined on hpux |
| 16:47.02 | Scrumpy | my guess is that I need to modify src/net/network.cxx @ line 29 for issue 2 |
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| 16:47.57 | BulletCatcher | If you have or can create a SourceForge account, then submitting patches to the tracker is best. |
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| 16:49.46 | Scrumpy | I would like to, but I'm not really a programmer and was wondering what would be the correct way to add a #define for this without breaking compatibility for the other OS's |
| 16:50.09 | Scrumpy | which is why I came to ask :) |
| 16:51.50 | BulletCatcher | The key is finding the right operating-system-specific macro name to use in the ifdef. |
| 16:52.13 | BulletCatcher | It might be something like HPUX or _HPUX_ or HP_UX. |
| 16:54.23 | Scrumpy | I think that'll be if if defined(HPUX) |
| 16:55.12 | Scrumpy | if I put my modification on pastebin, would it be possible for you to check if it's correct? |
| 16:55.19 | BulletCatcher | Sure. |
| 16:55.29 | Scrumpy | k, thanks :) |
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| 17:12.15 | Scrumpy | http://pastebin.com/ma9387eb |
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| 17:14.04 | Scrumpy | and http://pastebin.com/m59a50141 |
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| 17:24.03 | Scrumpy | with those two modifications the server compiles on hpux. If you think they're correct I'll create an sf account to submit a patch |
| 17:41.31 | BulletCatcher | Those look reasonable. If they work for you, then they are correct. :-) |
| 17:42.37 | BulletCatcher | Creating a SF account for such simple changes is overkill unless you think you may have other contributions in the future. |
| 17:43.25 | BulletCatcher | I can commit them now if you want. Just tell me what name I should use to give you credit. |
| 17:44.02 | BulletCatcher | Either an alias or a real name is fine. |
| 17:52.15 | Scrumpy | I've submited it :) tracker id: 2845708 |
| 17:52.54 | BulletCatcher | That works too. |
| 17:53.57 | Scrumpy | next I'm gonna try to get bzadmin to compile (which is giving errors in the CursesUI.cxx |
| 17:55.16 | Scrumpy | I don't have an HPUX graphical station available, however when I do, I can see what I can do for the game it self |
| 17:55.23 | Scrumpy | thnks for your help :) |
| 17:55.28 | Scrumpy | *thanks |
| 17:56.35 | BulletCatcher | Thanks *you* on behalf of the other two players with HPUX. :-) |
| 17:56.57 | ruskie | :) |
| 17:57.57 | BulletCatcher | It looks like we had HPUX support in the past. Odds are that it won't be too hard to get it working again. |
| 17:57.58 | Scrumpy | lol |
| 18:03.58 | brlcad | BulletCatcher: that's a horrible option |
| 18:04.10 | BulletCatcher | What is? |
| 18:04.12 | brlcad | intentionally should be avoiding any system-specific precompilation option |
| 18:04.22 | brlcad | spent years weeding them all out |
| 18:04.35 | brlcad | it's the quick cop-out fix that just gets worse with time |
| 18:05.08 | brlcad | you have to look at the issues case by case and see what the problem is, often just a missing header |
| 18:05.54 | brlcad | if there are types or declarations that are unavoidable, they should become tests for *features* -- not platforms |
| 18:06.50 | brlcad | that way, entire categories of issues are solved, not just tailoring a fix to a specific environment encountered today which is very likely going to be different tomorrow |
| 18:11.31 | Scrumpy | hi brlcad, if you're talking about my patch, how would you suggest to do this? is there an autoconf way for this? |
| 18:12.10 | BulletCatcher | I agree that this is a quick fix, but it is merely an extension of an already existing quick fix and the amount of effort eventually spent to do it right should be about the same. |
| 18:12.12 | BulletCatcher | I see it as a small price to pay for getting a new developer involved. |
| 18:13.56 | brlcad | to paraphrase devinfo, existing mess is never an excuse to add to the mess |
| 18:14.54 | brlcad | Scrumpy: possibly, does the sf patch have what you pastebinned? |
| 18:15.00 | brlcad | i can't get to pastebin.com from here |
| 18:15.06 | brlcad | ~bzpaste |
| 18:15.07 | ibot | [bzpaste] http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/ |
| 18:17.05 | Scrumpy | it's on the tracker aswell: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2845708&group_id=3248&atid=103248 |
| 18:17.15 | brlcad | looks |
| 18:23.56 | BulletCatcher | socklen_t seems to be the correct type for AddrLen on modern operating systems. |
| 18:23.57 | BulletCatcher | Would it be sufficent (for now) to rework the network.h ifdefs on that assumption? That would eliminate several of the specific uses of defined(). |
| 18:23.58 | brlcad | looks like hstrerror is an old netdbism |
| 18:24.53 | brlcad | Scrumpy: if you "man hstrerror" do you get anything? |
| 18:25.15 | brlcad | or better yet, find /usr/include -exec grep hstrerror {} /dev/null \; |
| 18:25.29 | Scrumpy | no manual entry for hstrerror |
| 18:26.47 | Scrumpy | /usr/include/netdb.h: extern char *hstrerror (); |
| 18:26.55 | brlcad | bingo |
| 18:27.10 | brlcad | so it's a missing header |
| 18:27.52 | Manu | happens :) |
| 18:29.40 | Scrumpy | gonna get some dinner, be back later ;) |
| 18:31.35 | BulletCatcher | That's odd, because already network.h includes <netdb.h>, and network.cxx includes that. |
| 18:33.54 | BulletCatcher | brlcad: do you like http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/dc531018 for network.h better? It improves the situation rather than making it worse. |
| 18:34.44 | brlcad | yep, better |
| 18:34.57 | BulletCatcher | Thanks for keeping me honest. |
| 18:35.09 | brlcad | any removal of system defines is always better and warranted, even if just to replace them with HAVE_ checks |
| 18:36.45 | BulletCatcher | The HPUX netdb.h may have an ifdef around the hstrerror() declaration that keeps it from taking effect. |
| 18:36.55 | brlcad | already on that, just testing now |
| 18:43.39 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r20559 10/trunk/bzflag/ (configure.ac src/net/network.cxx): check for netdb.h to get hstrerror() instead of relying on system defines. the assertion about 'sun' not having it (at least now) is outdated/wrong. |
| 18:44.02 | brlcad | Scrumpy: can you test that, see if it works for your system? |
| 18:44.08 | brlcad | have to go through autogen.sh and configure again |
| 18:44.26 | brlcad | oh, and presuming BulletCatcher's fix as well |
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| 18:51.20 | BulletCatcher | I need a few more minutes to finish a test compile, then will commit on success. |
| 18:51.54 | brlcad | this "test compile" you speak of intrigues me, where can I sign up for the newsletter? |
| 18:52.16 | BulletCatcher | :-) |
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| 19:01.55 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r20560 10/trunk/bzflag/include/network.h: By default assume POSIX compliance for the type of the getsockname() length parameter. |
| 19:03.30 | BulletCatcher | Hmm. We could probably drop the __APPLE__ case there, too. |
| 19:08.15 | brlcad | that whole section can go I think |
| 19:09.33 | BulletCatcher | Yay for POSIX compliance. I'll test that where I can. |
| 19:09.45 | brlcad | not just posix |
| 19:09.55 | brlcad | we have a pretty extensive test for socklen_t in configure |
| 19:11.01 | BulletCatcher | So I see. But the concern here is the declared getsockname() parameter types. |
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| 19:12.51 | brlcad | you mean the way it tests for socklen_t? |
| 19:13.22 | BulletCatcher | No, in our code we need to call getsockname() with the correct argument types. |
| 19:13.42 | BulletCatcher | Apparently older systems used int instead of socklen_t. |
| 19:15.00 | brlcad | but did they do that because they had no socklen_t or just didn't use it |
| 19:16.20 | brlcad | can't really know for sure, but at least in the header, the issue is just setting AddrLen to something sensible |
| 19:16.29 | brlcad | which .. heh, looks like isn't much used any more anyways |
| 19:17.37 | BulletCatcher | On IRIX 6.5.3, for example, the third getsockname() parameter is declared in <sys/socket.h> as int *. |
| 19:18.12 | BulletCatcher | POSIX says it is socklen_t * . |
| 19:18.51 | BulletCatcher | And it seems that XPG has it as size_t * . |
| 19:19.08 | brlcad | right, but that's a getsockname issue .. which isn't in src/net .. include/network.h (remember I couldn't see his pastebin's if it's related to some error) |
| 19:20.31 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r20561 10/trunk/bzflag/src/net/multicast.cxx: we don't need AddrLen in here. sizeof returns a size_t. it curiously gets cast to a socklen_t* anyways. |
| 19:21.30 | BulletCatcher | From what I can see, the reason we define AddrLen in BZFlag code is to work around the different standards. Now that we have settled on POSIX, we should just use socklen_t and make AddrLen go away. |
| 19:22.48 | BulletCatcher | In other words, we would just define socklen_t to be int on IRIX, for example. |
| 19:23.26 | brlcad | right, which I believe configure takes care of already |
| 19:23.36 | brlcad | if socklen isn't available, it tries types |
| 19:24.18 | brlcad | looks at a glance that AddrLen in use isn't even for socklen_t .. it's sizeof calls mostly (maybe completely) |
| 19:25.42 | brlcad | this is going to be a tricky commit .. so many modified files that I don't want to commit yet, it's a minefield |
| 19:26.47 | BulletCatcher | I leave it in your capable hands. I need to head off to work. |
| 19:26.48 | BulletCatcher | Thanks again for keeping us on the right path. |
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| 19:28.45 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r20562 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (bzfs/bzfs.cxx clientbase/ServerLink.cxx game/NetHandler.cxx): sizeof() returns a size_t, cast accordingly as used. addrlen can probably die. |
| 19:30.11 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r20563 10/trunk/bzflag/include/network.h: die AddrLen. you served us poorly. |
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| 20:17.05 | trepan | brlcad: NetHandler.cxx:149: error: cannot convert 'size_t*' to 'socklen_t*' ... |
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| 20:36.15 | Scrumpy | brlcad: getting the latest version from svn now, will let you know the result |
| 20:52.19 | trepan | notes that 'sizeof(socklen_t) != sizeof(size_t)' on some platforms |
| 20:52.34 | trepan | might be a problem depending on endianess |
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| 21:07.31 | mrapplecomputer1 | is the global auth down again?! |
| 21:08.15 | brad | seems so |
| 21:09.58 | mrapplecomputer1 | grrrr |
| 21:10.13 | mrapplecomputer1 | hates it when global does down |
| 21:12.27 | mrapplecomputer1 | anyone know why global goes down? o.O |
| 21:13.39 | brad | lazy server |
| 21:13.46 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03DonnyBaker 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6661 10/w/Flag_ideas: Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/24.39.181.253|24.39.181.253]] ([[User talk:24.39.181.253|Talk]]); changed back to last version by [[User:65.169.39.194|65.169.39.194]] |
| 21:14.11 | mrapplecomputer1 | lazy server? |
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| 21:15.20 | brad | ~bzflist |
| 21:16.05 | brad | mysql getting overloaded seems to be a common reason from what i've read in here |
| 21:16.10 | joevano | mrapplecomputer1: it is not down... just busy from time to time... two totally different things that exhibit similar characteristics |
| 21:16.26 | mrapplecomputer1 | joevano: ok |
| 21:17.16 | jcentury | Is there a problem with the registration server? |
| 21:17.39 | Guest1333 | it's just a little slow right now |
| 21:17.46 | Guest1333 | should clear up in a few minutes |
| 21:18.19 | brad | yep, working again. thanks |
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| 23:43.06 | Scrumpy | seems something wrong in the hpux netdb.h. HAVE_NETDB_H in config.h is set to 1, and netdb.h is included |
| 23:43.28 | Scrumpy | still gives the hstrerror error though |
| 23:43.39 | Scrumpy | network.cxx:73: error: 'hstrerror' was not declared in this scope |
| 23:43.39 | Scrumpy | network.cxx:76: error: 'hstrerror' was not declared in this scope |
| 23:44.03 | Scrumpy | even with manual inclusion of netdb.h |
| 23:46.23 | Scrumpy | trying to find out why |
| 23:48.33 | brlcad | hm, interesting |
| 23:48.42 | brlcad | Scrumpy: can you post your netdb.h somewhere? |
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