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| 01:25.19 | JeffM | mmmmmm new drive smell :) |
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| 02:10.44 | jh` | virgin code? |
| 02:10.46 | jh` | lol |
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| 02:32.12 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: 03will07c5 * r20205 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (39 files in 6 dirs): |
| 02:32.12 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: * completed the code for parsing the rest of the objects (except mesh) |
| 02:32.12 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: * also made SceneBuilder::assignTexture cache the textures so that large maps don't eat up massive amounts of memory |
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| 02:33.24 | Will07c5 | while there are probably bugs I haven't found so far the new parser seems to work much better |
| 02:35.03 | Will07c5 | also it takes less than 30 seconds to parse boxie_warz.bzw compared to over 10 minutes :D |
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| 02:39.24 | JeffM | very good |
| 02:40.10 | blast007 | heh |
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| 06:18.42 | kierra | hugs brlcad :) |
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| 08:21.32 | Bambino | Spam http://my.bzflag.org/bb/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=42696 |
| 08:21.46 | Bambino | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=13609 |
| 08:21.54 | Bambino | @ the bottom is the spam |
| 08:27.14 | blast007 | Bambino: working on it |
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| 08:31.22 | Bambino | blast007: Ty ;) |
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| 15:59.45 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20207 10/trunk/bzflag/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:59.45 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: * swapped the FetchURL.[h|cxx] files for the old client-side LuaURL[h|cxx] files |
| 15:59.45 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: (same basic functionality, but without the dependence on bzfsAPI, and with more features) |
| 16:02.49 | cygal | SportChick: I lost my freenode password. Is there any way to reset it? |
| 16:05.12 | trepan | https://sourceforge.net/account/registration/recover.php ? |
| 16:05.32 | blast007 | freenode, not sourceforge ;) |
| 16:05.35 | trepan | heh, sorry ;) |
| 16:06.23 | MindstormsKid | cygal: there is a command to send it to your email address |
| 16:06.48 | cygal | which is? |
| 16:07.07 | catay | I don't think there is (but i can be wrong) |
| 16:07.07 | MindstormsKid | hm. i don't know. :P |
| 16:07.38 | catay | you have to ask a staffer to send you a reset key |
| 16:07.41 | catay | or something |
| 16:07.58 | cygal | I just done that |
| 16:08.07 | blast007 | "It is best if you connect to freenode and do /stats p or /who freenode/staff/* and poke those people." |
| 16:08.18 | cygal | yes, I come from this blog post |
| 16:08.25 | cygal | I'll wait |
| 16:08.46 | catay | cygal: yea, found it also on the staff blog :) |
| 16:08.59 | MindstormsKid | http://blog.freenode.net/?p=30 |
| 16:09.34 | BulletCatcher | A "/msg nickserv help setpass" command will give you the answer. |
| 16:09.50 | cygal | I don't have the key |
| 16:10.08 | BulletCatcher | It doesn't seem like you need it for that. |
| 16:10.10 | cygal | I guess it is the job of the staff |
| 16:10.16 | cygal | well, I do |
| 16:10.21 | BulletCatcher | k |
| 16:10.28 | cygal | anyway, I'm still struggling with the replay system |
| 16:10.38 | cygal | I was not wrong when I set it to my last milestone |
| 16:10.43 | cygal | :) |
| 16:10.49 | blast007 | hehe |
| 16:10.53 | cygal | MsgNull messages are sent from some reason |
| 16:11.04 | blast007 | the replay system was/is quite hackish |
| 16:11.22 | cygal | when I prevent this, it no longer crashes, but nothing happens. |
| 16:19.33 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20208 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/RecordReplay.cxx: * looks like MsgSetVar was adjusted without updating RecordReplay |
| 16:19.34 | trepan | see if that helps ;) |
| 16:21.21 | trepan | you might want to go through every Msg... packet type that gets packed and make sure that the packing formats are ok |
| 16:22.29 | trepan | one sec, needs another fix for MsgSetVar |
| 16:23.37 | cygal | ah, thanks! |
| 16:24.30 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20209 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/RecordReplay.cxx: * fixed setVariables() to use the nboUnpackStdString() routine |
| 16:26.49 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20210 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/RecordReplay.cxx: * avoid signed issues |
| 16:27.43 | trepan | cygal: also note that some state is probably missing from the update snapshots |
| 16:28.22 | trepan | any additions/changes that came after the 2.0.x code are suspect ;) |
| 16:28.35 | cygal | great :) |
| 16:30.59 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20211 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/RecordReplay.cxx: * replaced msgString() with MsgStrings::strMsgCode() |
| 16:31.20 | trepan | stops playing... |
| 16:33.38 | cygal | it's ok :) |
| 16:33.47 | cygal | I saw msgString, but did not know about strMsgCode |
| 16:34.35 | trepan | MsgStrings.cxx was started using the msgString() code, iirc |
| 16:35.17 | trepan | if you're up to it, MsgStrings should probably be updated/verified as well |
| 16:35.55 | trepan | it's now used for the client debugNetMesg as well (when the value is 2 or greater) |
| 16:48.05 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20212 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/guiplaying.cxx: * called MsgStrings::reset() in leaveGame() for state tracking |
| 16:49.30 | cygal | if (key == "poll") |
| 16:49.38 | cygal | should not it be !=? |
| 16:50.19 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20213 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/RecordReplay.cxx: * oops ;) |
| 16:50.25 | cygal | heh |
| 16:51.15 | trepan | hm, looks like that "poll" cruft might have been removed |
| 16:52.03 | trepan | it used to be that it stored a pointer in BZDB |
| 16:53.13 | trepan | bzfs.cxx:3798 is the only reference i've found to it so far, "BZDB.setPermission("poll", StateDatabase::ReadOnly);" (my line number is probably off) |
| 16:59.09 | cygal | I also wonder why there is handleMsgSetVars and handleMsgSetVar, the latter being in MsgStrings.cxx and not called |
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| 17:01.01 | cygal | thanks for the help, I'll know where to head now |
| 17:01.03 | cygal | leaves |
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| 20:08.48 | _anomaly_ | bzfsMessages.cxx line 186 memset seems to have transposed parameters |
| 20:09.37 | _anomaly_ | its trying to assign the number 32 to zero bytes |
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| 20:10.05 | tobylane | hi i was trying to run a 3.0 server, are there changes to the conf file? |
| 20:10.20 | _anomaly_ | from 2.0 ? |
| 20:10.26 | tobylane | yes |
| 20:10.31 | _anomaly_ | yes, several |
| 20:10.43 | _anomaly_ | run with -ddd and look at output |
| 20:11.01 | _anomaly_ | what is your issue? |
| 20:11.30 | tobylane | bad arguement -a |
| 20:11.42 | _anomaly_ | remove that, it's not an option anymore |
| 20:13.31 | tobylane | requireudp, whats the new default option? |
| 20:13.37 | JefferyM | there isn't one |
| 20:13.40 | JefferyM | it's always on |
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| 20:14.51 | tobylane | it cant find the world, but still made a game.. ill try |
| 20:15.24 | _anomaly_ | basically if it worked in 2.0 but not in 3.0 just remove any bad arguments |
| 20:15.28 | tobylane | oh and publicserver url please |
| 20:15.43 | JefferyM | you don't need to specify the list server URL |
| 20:15.54 | JefferyM | it's the same as the old version |
| 20:16.00 | JefferyM | we only have one list server |
| 20:16.22 | _anomaly_ | you may also need to add -publicuser <username> <password> |
| 20:16.31 | JefferyM | yup |
| 20:16.44 | SpazzyMcGee | what's publicuser? |
| 20:16.58 | JefferyM | the username your server will use for loging into the list server |
| 20:17.12 | tobylane | do they need to be anything real |
| 20:17.16 | JefferyM | yes |
| 20:17.27 | JefferyM | it has to be a valid bzdb username and password |
| 20:17.36 | JefferyM | that way we know who to contact if there is a problem |
| 20:17.47 | tobylane | can i have the id stuff and private without this bit |
| 20:17.58 | JefferyM | nope |
| 20:18.07 | _anomaly_ | it didn't work for me |
| 20:18.09 | JefferyM | you need to log into the list server to use it |
| 20:18.13 | SpazzyMcGee | JefferyM: Does the server require a valid user and password to be listed? |
| 20:18.22 | JefferyM | SpazzyMcGee, yep |
| 20:18.27 | tobylane | so id from the forum |
| 20:18.31 | JefferyM | yep |
| 20:18.42 | JefferyM | that's your BZID username and password :) |
| 20:19.09 | _anomaly_ | latest bzfs will output a message indicating that ou should use that option |
| 20:19.14 | JefferyM | yep |
| 20:19.20 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r20216 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsMessages.cxx: correctly clear out the callsign. |
| 20:19.20 | JefferyM | it's going to be required for 3.0 |
| 20:19.33 | SpazzyMcGee | Not sure I really want to put my password in a conf - especially on a server shared by many other server operators. |
| 20:19.41 | JefferyM | that's what we are discussing |
| 20:19.50 | JefferyM | I'm not to sure if we want passwords too |
| 20:19.57 | tobylane | bad argument |
| 20:19.58 | JefferyM | I was thinking about using a key that's tied to the host |
| 20:20.19 | JefferyM | where you put in the domain name on a web page and get back a "server key" that you can use |
| 20:20.32 | tobylane | i cant exactly remember where i got this, its some dev build but i didnt do it |
| 20:20.41 | SpazzyMcGee | tobylane: do you have the most recent revision of BZFS? |
| 20:20.41 | tobylane | do all the dev builds of reccently need public user |
| 20:20.49 | JefferyM | yep |
| 20:20.57 | JefferyM | the ones this week |
| 20:21.03 | JefferyM | did you build this yourself? |
| 20:21.10 | tobylane | ERROR: bad argument [-publicuser] |
| 20:21.10 | tobylane | nope, downloaded it last week |
| 20:21.16 | JefferyM | from where? |
| 20:21.20 | tobylane | forums |
| 20:21.25 | JefferyM | yeah that's old |
| 20:21.28 | SpazzyMcGee | get the most recent build, or your server won't be on the most recent list |
| 20:21.38 | JefferyM | the proto changed since then |
| 20:21.48 | tobylane | ty |
| 20:23.50 | JefferyM | SpazzyMcGee, would you be more comfortable with a key that is only valid for your domain name, and only used for listing? |
| 20:24.13 | SpazzyMcGee | yeah |
| 20:24.24 | SpazzyMcGee | 'only valid for your domain name'? |
| 20:24.26 | JefferyM | I'll implement that asn an option |
| 20:24.45 | JefferyM | it has to be used from a host that resolves to yourserver.whatever.com |
| 20:25.06 | SpazzyMcGee | yeah, that would be okay |
| 20:25.16 | JefferyM | so like if I got your key, it would be pointless for me to use it because I can't host on your machine :) |
| 20:25.55 | SpazzyMcGee | How would you go about obtaining the key? |
| 20:26.01 | _anomaly_ | I like that better than username/password, I'm on a shared server box |
| 20:26.01 | JefferyM | from a page I'll write |
| 20:26.27 | SpazzyMcGee | because I wouldn't necessarily run the server on a machine that I can browse the web on |
| 20:26.27 | JefferyM | yeah a lot of people are on a shared box, thats why I questioned the username/pass thing when I first heard it |
| 20:26.51 | JefferyM | SpazzyMcGee, that's fine, you'd enter the domain name in a form field |
| 20:27.10 | JefferyM | you'd log in with your bz username, then manage your server keys |
| 20:27.16 | SpazzyMcGee | ah, that's cool |
| 20:27.31 | SpazzyMcGee | yeah, that's a much better idea |
| 20:28.00 | _anomaly_ | then the server key would be an option to bzfs I suppose? Or in a config file? |
| 20:28.02 | tobylane | oh so youre managing stuff based on forum dbs fine? ive heard so much hell from that |
| 20:29.01 | SpazzyMcGee | Besides, I don't care much if people start servers in my name - it's just giving out my password |
| 20:35.00 | JefferyM | same as the current command |
| 20:35.04 | JefferyM | command line or config |
| 20:35.29 | JefferyM | you would have to use a key or a u/p combo |
| 20:35.44 | tobylane | there was some topic somewhere listing the build commands, from svn to xcodebuild |
| 20:35.48 | JefferyM | tobylane, we are moving away from using the fourm users, and moving to ldap |
| 20:36.00 | JefferyM | tobylane, simpler to just build it linux style |
| 20:36.02 | JefferyM | autogen.sh |
| 20:36.04 | JefferyM | configure |
| 20:36.05 | JefferyM | make |
| 20:36.34 | tobylane | that was it, ty |
| 20:36.37 | tobylane | ldap? |
| 20:36.49 | JefferyM | ldap |
| 20:36.58 | tobylane | oh yes i remember now |
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| 20:40.32 | tobylane | generally at least, are all precompile changes illegal and all post compile changes legal |
| 20:56.18 | TD-Linux | what? |
| 20:56.27 | cygal | illegal? |
| 20:56.59 | TD-Linux | tobylane: you can change the code however you please |
| 20:57.06 | tobylane | i dunno, gu dont allow changes and most others dont like it? |
| 20:57.16 | tobylane | sorry yes i didnt say, i meant for public servers |
| 20:57.40 | TD-Linux | aah yes, most public servers don't like changes that give you an unfair advantage (cheating) |
| 20:57.45 | cygal | what would you want to change? |
| 20:57.52 | cygal | sure, cheating is not allowed. |
| 20:57.53 | a_meteorite | they're not illegal. and rules depend on server. |
| 20:58.13 | a_meteorite | some changes net no benefit that could be classified as cheating. it depends. |
| 20:58.20 | TD-Linux | if your change doesn't allow you to cheat, public servers are still OK with it in gneeral |
| 20:58.23 | JefferyM | and it all depends on what you mean by "legal" |
| 20:58.33 | a_meteorite | breaking rules != illegal :) |
| 20:58.44 | JefferyM | who's rules? |
| 20:59.11 | a_meteorite | the server that you're on |
| 20:59.12 | tobylane | GU for example |
| 20:59.17 | JefferyM | if you change your server and client to change gameplay, the bzflag project asks that you change your version and protocoll too, then you don't get in the way of regular games. |
| 20:59.26 | JefferyM | GU does not allow any clietn mods |
| 20:59.30 | JefferyM | but you'd have to ask them |
| 21:00.12 | JefferyM | the bzflag project will only really care if you mod your client in ways that ruins the game for others |
| 21:00.16 | JefferyM | and you use it just to cause trouble for others. |
| 21:00.40 | JefferyM | what do you want to change? |
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| 21:01.09 | tobylane | nothing, just wondering where the public servers admins lines where on it |
| 21:01.19 | JefferyM | it is different for each server |
| 21:01.44 | JefferyM | generaly if the change gives you some real advantage over other players then it is considred a cheat |
| 21:01.46 | a_meteorite | it's really subjective too |
| 21:01.58 | a_meteorite | because some even classify config changes as "cheating" |
| 21:02.02 | JefferyM | if it's a mod that is just a change that helps you with the way you play, it's generaly ok |
| 21:02.15 | a_meteorite | I agree |
| 21:02.30 | JefferyM | the term Precompile and post compile are never really used |
| 21:02.45 | JefferyM | mostly it just matters WHY you are making the change |
| 21:03.32 | tobylane | that makes sense, i was thinking the difference between textures/sounds, and hit sizes/shot details |
| 21:03.40 | JefferyM | if you are doing it to ensure that you beat other players by giving yourelf some ability that they can not do. that's cheating |
| 21:03.48 | tobylane | yeah |
| 21:03.52 | JefferyM | textures and sounds don't modify the game |
| 21:04.03 | JefferyM | making your hitbox smaller is giving yourself an ability others can not have |
| 21:04.34 | JefferyM | if you make your tank perform differently then normal, that is something that others can not do |
| 21:05.02 | JefferyM | now if you just want to try those mods to try and make another variant of the game, you can do that, just change your protocoll version |
| 21:05.18 | JefferyM | we'll still let you list on the list server, but it'll only be for others with your mods too |
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| 21:30.16 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: 03wyk3d * r20217 10/branches/gsoc_bzauthd/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:30.16 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: Added superseding for conflicts with emails from unfinished registrations. |
| 21:30.16 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: Changed back to entry based uniqueness for emails. |
| 21:30.16 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: Fixed bugs in the search wrapper and some parts of registration. |
| 21:30.16 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: Added more exact registration error messages in the client. |
| 21:30.44 | Wyk3d | seems to work now even for weird cases :) .. couldn't test concurrency yet though |
| 21:45.10 | blast007 | cool :) |
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| 22:14.20 | CIA-62 | BZFlag: 03wyk3d * r20218 10/branches/gsoc_bzauthd/src/bzauthd/ (UserStorage.cxx UserStorage.h): Fixed build on linux |
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