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00:44.57 | gmangrey | hi all |
00:45.02 | gmangrey | whats up? |
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00:57.59 | bzflag2 | hi guys |
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01:01.19 | gmangrey_ | hey guys |
01:01.47 | gmangrey_ | anyone awake on here? |
01:01.49 | gmangrey_ | :D |
01:02.05 | gmangrey_ | (ue) |
01:02.34 | gmangrey_ | anyone here? (hm) |
01:03.18 | gmangrey_ | Well then |
01:03.42 | gmangrey_ | 4I believe I have better stuff to be doing |
01:03.52 | Thumper_ | please turn off the colour |
01:04.02 | gmangrey_ | um ok sry1 |
01:04.13 | gmangrey_ | something wrong with it? |
01:04.21 | gmangrey_ | (h) |
01:04.25 | Thumper_ | other than it being annoying? |
01:04.35 | gmangrey_ | haha, point taken |
01:04.37 | gmangrey_ | :D |
01:04.55 | gmangrey_ | so what do you happen to be up to tonight? |
01:05.16 | Thumper_ | setting up tents for a cub weekend |
01:05.26 | gmangrey_ | fun fun |
01:05.29 | gmangrey_ | :P |
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01:06.44 | gmangrey_ | well peeps gtg |
01:06.51 | gmangrey_ | c u all later |
01:06.58 | gmangrey_ | on the battlefield |
01:07.02 | Thumper_ | enjoy |
01:07.04 | gmangrey_ | (H) |
01:07.07 | gmangrey_ | u too |
01:08.09 | MindstormsKid | He stole my quit message :O |
01:08.38 | MindstormsKid | (Not that I didn't steal it from someone else D:) |
01:13.18 | Bambino_ | ha |
01:30.03 | spldart | Meh.... exciting ;-p |
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02:04.23 | panoptical | ok... im trying to compile bzflag for a linux build, but during the configure process, it comes up that libcurl is missing, and configure cant continue... it points me to the curl site, but i cant seem to find where to download libcurl (and i already have curl installed from an rpm)... |
02:10.47 | panoptical | anyone? |
02:11.26 | panoptical | bueler? |
02:12.13 | MindstormsKid | panoptical: No idea, I don't use linux.. |
02:12.32 | MindstormsKid | Sorry.. Can't think of anyone specific that does.. |
02:13.09 | panoptical | hmm... |
02:13.45 | panoptical | all i really want out of this is a bzfs build for linux, as my build for osx doesnt work with my server... |
02:17.00 | panoptical | im seeing several people online that i know use linux, but they dont seem to be active at the moment... |
02:17.23 | trepan | take a look at your config.log, see why curl wasn't picked up |
02:24.00 | blast007 | panoptical: make sure you have the curl development package too (if your distro separates them), not just the normal one |
02:25.58 | panoptical | what rpm would that be, if it is one? |
02:37.06 | BulletCatcher | What Linux distro? |
02:37.26 | panoptical | centos, but i found it under curl-devel |
02:37.45 | BulletCatcher | That should do it. |
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03:05.44 | JeffM | of course we have to have an earthquake right when I'm moving my TV :/ |
03:05.57 | panoptical | are you in california? |
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03:06.41 | JeffM | yes |
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03:07.15 | Bambino_ | hmm |
03:07.59 | Bambino_ | California getting earthquakes after my science teacher talked to us about how screwed we will after "the big one" |
03:08.20 | JeffM | heh, dude we have them all the time |
03:08.35 | Bambino_ | yeah, Jaun de fuca plate? |
03:08.38 | JeffM | when I went to go find it on the "big list o' quakes" page |
03:08.49 | JeffM | it wasn't at the top |
03:08.53 | Bambino_ | heh |
03:09.03 | panoptical | even some of my professors (in GEORGIA, of all places) have talked about the "big one"... |
03:09.11 | Foo_man_choo | My only earthquake experience was Narita Japan :-/ |
03:09.18 | Bambino_ | how big? |
03:09.33 | panoptical | something like 8.5+ richter |
03:09.36 | Bambino_ | wow |
03:09.49 | Bambino_ | we're suppose to be getting a 10.o :/ |
03:09.54 | Bambino_ | 10.0* |
03:10.05 | TkTech | Don't the islands of japan get constant micro-quakes |
03:10.16 | Bambino_ | pretty much |
03:10.24 | Foo_man_choo | It's seismecally busy over there <sp> |
03:10.30 | JeffM | pfff no tiny little Jaun de fuca plate |
03:10.37 | Bambino_ | because the fault lines look like a mess |
03:10.44 | JeffM | is all about the pacific on north american action |
03:10.59 | JeffM | fault lines are fun to walk in |
03:11.08 | Foo_man_choo | :) |
03:11.10 | Foo_man_choo | yes they are |
03:11.11 | Bambino_ | is siting on a fault line (not literally) |
03:11.27 | TkTech | Woo for ottawa :) |
03:11.33 | Bambino_ | The BC Ferries go over one |
03:11.39 | TkTech | no tornados, floods, quakes, droughts, ect ect |
03:11.45 | Bambino_ | SARS! |
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03:12.03 | Bambino_ | and the Swine flu |
03:12.05 | TkTech | -_- Thats Toronto that really felt it |
03:12.06 | Bambino_ | horay! |
03:12.09 | panoptical | no... SWINE FLU! :P |
03:12.13 | spldart | Yay... Swin... nah |
03:12.14 | Bambino_ | yea |
03:12.36 | TkTech | If you have your vaccines for this year your mostly-safe against H1N1 |
03:12.41 | TkTech | its a similar strain |
03:12.42 | spldart | NO |
03:12.48 | Bambino_ | ther is no cure! |
03:12.54 | Bambino_ | apperently |
03:13.00 | spldart | That's not what cdc is saying that I've read |
03:13.05 | Bambino_ | hmm |
03:13.10 | TkTech | Well, you can inhibit a persons immune system |
03:13.11 | panoptical | cdc has stated that a proper vaccine would have to wait until at least this fall |
03:13.14 | TkTech | which carries high risk |
03:13.15 | spldart | But that's a bit OT for this channel isn't it |
03:13.20 | TkTech | but it would stop it |
03:13.21 | Bambino_ | yells at his misinformed teachers |
03:13.24 | panoptical | the only "cure" is tamaflu or antivirals |
03:13.37 | spldart | Not! |
03:13.40 | TkTech | No... |
03:13.48 | TkTech | Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm |
03:13.50 | spldart | No cure. No immunization yet. |
03:13.59 | panoptical | thats why i put cure in quotes |
03:14.22 | JeffM | you don't cure the flue |
03:14.25 | TkTech | If your a newborn or elderly, your safe :) |
03:14.26 | JeffM | you survive it |
03:14.31 | Bambino_ | yeah |
03:14.36 | TkTech | If your middle agged and have a good immune system, your screwed |
03:14.36 | Bambino_ | or die ;( |
03:14.42 | Bambino_ | oh really? |
03:14.48 | panoptical | hmm |
03:14.48 | spldart | Just reasonable precautions and ways of reducing symptom duration |
03:14.49 | spldart | Dudes!... |
03:14.49 | TkTech | Read the link |
03:15.00 | TkTech | This strain works by turning your immune system against yourself |
03:15.03 | spldart | is there an OT channel on freenode anywhere>? |
03:15.09 | Bambino_ | hmm |
03:15.10 | JeffM | no |
03:15.13 | blast007 | spldart: yeah, such as, "no licking the pigs anymore!" |
03:15.14 | JeffM | it's called undernet |
03:15.18 | spldart | lmao |
03:15.27 | spldart | .... still lol |
03:15.32 | Bambino_ | people want the name changed |
03:15.32 | spldart | :-D |
03:15.37 | Bambino_ | to "Mexican flu" |
03:15.52 | spldart | Just human h1n1 |
03:16.08 | panoptical | thats what the cdc wants to name it... |
03:16.09 | TkTech | Mexican flu is taken |
03:16.12 | TkTech | so is Spanish flu |
03:16.13 | Bambino_ | oh? |
03:16.18 | TkTech | Spanish flu == Swine Flu |
03:16.22 | Bambino_ | Pig Flu |
03:16.22 | spldart | quarter human, quater avain, quarter eurasian swine, quater north americna swine |
03:16.32 | Bambino_ | hmm |
03:16.32 | spldart | avian |
03:16.58 | Bambino_ | OT: Half man, half bear, half swing flu! |
03:17.10 | spldart | Yay! south park |
03:17.14 | Bambino_ | I know..half half half |
03:17.24 | Bambino_ | I am trying 150% |
03:20.02 | jorgenpt | Swing flu? Is that what you get from licking the swings in the park? |
03:20.35 | MindstormsKid | :P |
03:21.39 | spldart | IB disturbing 'beast' stuff >:-[ |
03:21.48 | MindstormsKid | No, Swine Flu is what you get from doing this: http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_sep2006/PigKiss.jpg |
03:23.09 | spldart | Oh nice |
03:23.15 | JeffM | blast007, joevano. was it ether of you that moved the ...? to basement? |
03:24.38 | JeffM | oh, and blast007 I've gone an created the 1vs1 sub forum, no special perms, just the normal 27 day auto prune |
03:27.52 | blast007 | JeffM: I did |
03:28.08 | JeffM | was the poster informed of what he should do to about it? |
03:28.11 | JeffM | not that he cares |
03:28.12 | blast007 | yes |
03:28.16 | JeffM | cool |
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04:00.09 | gmangrey | hey guys |
04:00.16 | JeffM | hello |
04:00.18 | gmangrey | whats up? |
04:00.39 | JeffM | Z |
04:00.47 | JeffM | not much ;) |
04:00.53 | gmangrey | same here |
04:07.15 | Bambino_ | hey gmangrey |
04:07.51 | gmangrey | hi |
04:08.53 | gmangrey | can you guys check out a website I started today? |
04:09.02 | gmangrey | im still working on it |
04:09.25 | gmangrey | its http://bzmapping.netii.net/ |
04:10.05 | Bambino_ | the downloads take me to a unrelated site |
04:10.10 | Bambino_ | takes* |
04:10.15 | gmangrey | yeah I know |
04:10.22 | gmangrey | I used a template |
04:10.23 | Bambino_ | why ;) |
04:10.26 | Bambino_ | ah |
04:10.33 | gmangrey | and I still need to replace the urls |
04:10.40 | gmangrey | (ue) |
04:11.33 | panoptical | your using 000webhost? |
04:11.40 | gmangrey | yep |
04:11.52 | gmangrey | I'm gonna rename to a .tk |
04:11.53 | panoptical | ah, i used to use them, but their php config didnt meet my needs |
04:12.16 | gmangrey | yeah I don't really need everything |
04:12.21 | gmangrey | just the main works |
04:12.22 | panoptical | now i just run my own hosting :) |
04:12.28 | gmangrey | apachee? |
04:12.42 | panoptical | apache, cpanel/whm... (its a web hosting company) |
04:12.49 | gmangrey | ok |
04:13.13 | gmangrey | I tried apache but my pc's really screwed |
04:13.31 | gmangrey | didn't really work :( |
04:13.37 | panoptical | usually running a web server on windows doesnt work so well... |
04:13.44 | gmangrey | yeah |
04:13.52 | gmangrey | I have the experience :D |
04:13.52 | blast007 | panoptical: works fine for me ;) |
04:13.58 | panoptical | its possible, but its a lot easier with windows server... |
04:14.00 | panoptical | or linux |
04:14.11 | gmangrey | hey man brb |
04:15.36 | panoptical | blast, do you run the server using windows client? |
04:19.21 | blast007 | I run a local development copy of apache/mysql/php on Windows XP |
04:19.35 | panoptical | ah |
04:19.36 | blast007 | though I use XAMPP, so it's all pre-configured |
04:19.47 | blast007 | my production server is linux |
04:19.51 | panoptical | good :) |
04:20.40 | panoptical | tell me, what ip is hostnth.com resolving to for you? |
04:21.17 | blast007 | 96.9.182.182 |
04:21.29 | panoptical | hmm |
04:21.52 | panoptical | thats what it should be... but for me its resolving to 76.73.13.44 |
04:22.54 | panoptical | i guess bellsouth fails at regularly updating their dns cache |
04:24.08 | gmangrey | ok men I'm back (sw) |
04:24.10 | gmangrey | :D |
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04:36.08 | gmangrey | I'm off to play some wizard101 :D |
04:36.13 | gmangrey | be back later |
05:44.53 | biggeruniverse_ | life is good |
05:45.05 | panoptical | that was random... |
05:45.17 | biggeruniverse_ | video killed the radio star |
05:45.32 | panoptical | ok... now its getting annoying |
05:45.43 | biggeruniverse_ | well no one asked you :P |
05:46.05 | JeffM | forget to renew the meds? |
05:46.15 | biggeruniverse_ | I knew I forgot something |
05:48.24 | panoptical | jeff: why does bzflag.org only have 1 nameserver for it? |
05:48.50 | panoptical | erm... nvm... stupid whois site loaded it wrong |
05:49.31 | biggeruniverse_ | ~whois-- |
05:49.41 | panoptical | i guess my question is... why does it have 5 namservers? and from different domains too... |
05:49.54 | JeffM | redundancy |
05:50.00 | JeffM | that's what the dns system is for ;) |
05:50.31 | panoptical | yes... but thats why most sites have 2... even google only uses 4 :) |
05:51.01 | JeffM | so? |
05:51.06 | JeffM | is there a problem with having more? |
05:51.20 | biggeruniverse_ | yes |
05:51.22 | panoptical | well, with redundancy like that, wouldnt it be a bitch to update the site? |
05:51.26 | biggeruniverse_ | no one can have more than google |
05:51.29 | biggeruniverse_ | it's illegal |
05:51.35 | JeffM | no |
05:51.44 | biggeruniverse_ | there's one master man |
05:51.52 | JeffM | biggeruniverse_: go sleep it off |
05:51.53 | biggeruniverse_ | the rest are just doing zone transfers |
05:52.03 | biggeruniverse_ | JeffM: sleep what off? |
05:52.11 | JeffM | whatever the hell you are on ;) |
05:52.25 | biggeruniverse_ | :\ |
05:52.28 | panoptical | then how do you update the site, when you do? |
05:52.38 | JeffM | what do you mean by "update the site?" |
05:52.39 | panoptical | or rather, what do you use? |
05:52.45 | biggeruniverse_ | >.> |
05:52.51 | JeffM | do you mean move it from one IP to another? |
05:53.13 | panoptical | no, as in change it... renovate it, update it |
05:53.23 | JeffM | that has nothing to do with the nameserver |
05:53.33 | JeffM | the site is hosted in one place |
05:53.41 | JeffM | the nameservers are just that servers of NAMES |
05:54.28 | panoptical | so, you have all the nameservers pointed at 1 server's IP |
05:54.39 | JeffM | for the www name, sure |
05:54.54 | JeffM | the redundancy is if the nameservers go down |
05:55.05 | panoptical | ah |
05:55.12 | JeffM | do you know how the DNS system works? |
05:55.17 | panoptical | yes |
05:55.34 | JeffM | then you should know that nameservers are not the same as hosts for a specific hostname in a domain |
05:55.49 | biggeruniverse_ | gawd |
05:56.24 | panoptical | i know... and its almost 2am here, so i had a lapse of thought... but ive still never seen any site to have 5 nameservers from 5 different domains |
05:56.37 | JeffM | putting them on the same domain is silly |
05:56.49 | JeffM | since that means they are usualy located at the same place |
05:57.03 | panoptical | well, if the main server goes down, then it doesnt matter if your nameservers work... |
05:57.04 | JeffM | and if the net conenction to that one place is poofed |
05:57.18 | biggeruniverse_ | yahoo.com has 5... |
05:57.24 | JeffM | our nameservers arn't on the same network as the host server for the website |
05:57.48 | JeffM | so if ns.mecworks.com goes down, or is unreachable, you hit ns2.codepoet.org |
05:57.59 | JeffM | they all point you to bzflag.bz |
05:58.13 | JeffM | for the root and www hosts |
05:58.16 | biggeruniverse_ | microsoft has 5, and they update IPs like every hour, because MS has redundant web servers at several co-lo sites |
05:58.36 | JeffM | when you have redudant servers you usualy do round robin |
05:58.44 | JeffM | or some sort of aggrigator |
05:59.01 | panoptical | i understand... im just saying that most people have their nameservers listed as ns1/ns2.theirdomain.com, and have bind running on the server the host from |
05:59.07 | biggeruniverse_ | well, if one site goes down, even if no one notices, MS DNS will auto switch after at most 60min |
05:59.19 | JeffM | yeah, they do. and that isn't very redundant ;) |
05:59.29 | biggeruniverse_ | well... it's MS after all |
05:59.35 | JeffM | you have dns entries for more then just our host |
05:59.43 | JeffM | bzflag.net is game servers for instance. |
06:00.04 | JeffM | so if we hosted that and went down, now all those game domains are down |
06:00.07 | panoptical | oh, ok... |
06:00.12 | JeffM | by spreading it out, at least you can get to the OTHER services |
06:00.24 | JeffM | consoldating all your services in one machine is silly |
06:00.30 | JeffM | if there are people that depend on it |
06:00.49 | JeffM | we used to have the list server and www on different systems |
06:00.57 | panoptical | i see... i was just referring to your web site, and not the gameservers at all, but it makes sense... |
06:01.09 | JeffM | dns is for more then websites |
06:01.18 | panoptical | yeah |
06:02.20 | JeffM | tho honestly if we got controll over the .org domain name, we'd probably not use that many servers |
06:02.42 | panoptical | do you not have control over the .org domain? |
06:02.51 | JeffM | tim has that controll |
06:02.56 | panoptical | ah |
06:03.07 | panoptical | couldnt you ask him? |
06:03.11 | JeffM | yes |
06:03.13 | JeffM | and we have |
06:03.27 | panoptical | but.... |
06:03.43 | JeffM | if it had been a positive answer, do you think I would have made my first statement? ;) |
06:04.02 | panoptical | heh |
06:04.43 | panoptical | im assuming he has control over the domain only, while you (and others) have control over the site associated with it? |
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06:05.52 | JeffM | the major sites are hosted on bzflag.bz right now |
06:07.17 | Bambino_ | any devs around? |
06:07.24 | panoptical | other than jeff? |
06:07.36 | Bambino_ | JeffM will do fine ;) |
06:07.48 | Bambino_ | Ok, I was on Planet MoFo |
06:07.51 | panoptical | JeffM: what are the "major sites"? |
06:08.08 | JeffM | panoptical: www, list server, wiki, forums, etc.. |
06:08.34 | Bambino_ | JeffM: ping? |
06:08.46 | a_meteorite | just ask, no need to ping first |
06:08.46 | panoptical | arent all those on the .org domain? |
06:08.55 | JeffM | Bambino_: yes, get to the question part, or do you just want me to comment about you being on mofo? ;) |
06:09.10 | Bambino_ | heh |
06:09.10 | JeffM | panoptical: and .com and .net |
06:09.24 | a_meteorite | just make sure you call them hosts when Tim is around |
06:09.31 | a_meteorite | :) |
06:09.43 | Bambino_ | <PROTECTED> |
06:09.47 | Bambino_ | I could not die |
06:09.49 | Bambino_ | at all |
06:09.53 | JeffM | ok, good for you |
06:10.04 | Bambino_ | it was really annoying |
06:10.11 | Bambino_ | have you heard of that bug? |
06:10.13 | JeffM | then drop OO |
06:10.18 | Bambino_ | I was sealed |
06:10.21 | JeffM | no but it dosn't sound suprising |
06:10.30 | JeffM | bzflag ain't perfect |
06:10.38 | Bambino_ | yeah |
06:12.02 | JeffM | if you care that much about it, test it with 2.99.x find out how to duplicate it and report it |
06:12.17 | Bambino_ | alright |
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18:48.10 | biggeruniverse_ | It are I! |
18:48.31 | biggeruniverse_ | unhand me, villian! |
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21:17.14 | JeffM | brlcad: 42 |
21:23.55 | biggeruniverse_ | panoptical sez: that was random.... |
21:24.19 | JeffM | it is the answer to a question |
21:24.21 | JeffM | one he asked |
21:24.37 | biggeruniverse_ | I hope he asked the right question |
21:24.54 | biggeruniverse_ | How many roads must a man walk down? |
21:25.07 | JeffM | how big is your new TV |
21:25.17 | biggeruniverse_ | that's no fun |
21:25.45 | JeffM | some times the truth is booring |
21:30.47 | spldart | Heh.... I like that double entendre |
21:32.10 | biggeruniverse_ | booring? |
21:33.19 | spldart | yeah... if it was intended it's amusing me |
21:33.37 | spldart | for a friendly jibe |
21:33.52 | spldart | if it was a typo then it gives me a nice idea |
21:34.01 | spldart | To use on my boss ;) |
21:34.03 | JeffM | just FYI spldart the windows 7 beta does not support HDCP |
21:34.13 | spldart | Ah |
21:34.16 | spldart | thanks for that tidbit |
21:34.25 | JeffM | so no BD or HDDVD |
21:34.48 | spldart | is piecing together a best P4 junker he can for X86 testing aside the X64 machine. |
21:35.50 | spldart | I will have to upgrade in 4 months anyway... I hear windows 7 ultimate testing ends then |
21:35.50 | spldart | So downgrade to vista for a few months and wait for the next release. |
21:35.50 | spldart | ... or run xp x86 for a while |
21:40.09 | JeffM | the current RC will run for 13 months |
21:45.01 | spldart | really? |
21:45.05 | spldart | huh |
21:49.35 | JeffM | yeah |
21:49.43 | JeffM | beta is over, it's all RC now |
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22:00.42 | panoptical | is there a way to run bzfs in the background? I usually ssh into my server to start bzfs, but when i put my computer in standby, it disconnects from the server, and bzfs quits running... |
22:04.10 | brad | ../bzfs -conf bzfs.conf >> ./logs/5156.`date +%Y-%m-%d`.log & |
22:04.13 | brad | that's what I use.. |
22:04.50 | brad | the & backgrounds it |
22:07.16 | panoptical | ok, thanks |
22:13.04 | catay | panoptical: you can also use 'screen' |
22:13.29 | panoptical | as in, "screen bzfs -conf conf.txt" ? |
22:13.54 | catay | yeah, i think that should work |
22:14.50 | panoptical | meh, that would require me to set /var/run/screen at 777 |
22:15.12 | catay | why ? |
22:15.41 | panoptical | idk... thats just what my terminal says |
22:16.38 | catay | if you just do 'screen' first |
22:16.49 | catay | then start 'bzfs' |
22:17.01 | catay | and then do ctrl-d to detach, does that work ? |
22:17.08 | catay | ctrl-a d |
22:18.13 | catay | or do you run it as a different user then the one you log into the system ? |
22:19.31 | panoptical | how would i kill the program, when necessary? |
22:19.49 | catay | with kill |
22:19.53 | catay | 'kill' |
22:19.59 | catay | ps -ef |grep bzfs |
22:20.04 | catay | to get the pid |
22:20.36 | catay | or pgrep -f bzfs |
22:20.44 | panoptical | thanks |
22:21.51 | catay | you can also join the server with your bzflag client and do /shutdownserver |
22:21.56 | catay | if you have the required perms |
22:22.44 | panoptical | i knew that... but im still trying to learn bzfs operation from the linux shell |
22:25.49 | blast007 | panoptical: bzfs can also output it's process ID to a text file with -pidfile |
22:25.53 | blast007 | makes it easier to kill later |
22:26.06 | blast007 | and you can make scripts that will read that file |
22:46.50 | panoptical | will screen continue even when im not ssh'd into the server? |
22:47.16 | TD-Linux | yes |
22:47.23 | TD-Linux | though there is a special way to detach and reattach iirc |
22:47.25 | TD-Linux | look it up :) |
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22:53.10 | TkTech | ^-A D |
22:53.16 | TkTech | *^A |
22:53.33 | TkTech | To detach the screen |
22:53.57 | TkTech | when you want to re-attach, `screen -r` will either launch the only one, or give you a list if there is more then one |
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