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| 00:40.07 | JefferyM | damn... I forgot to check in a file for the startbzfs :( |
| 00:42.49 | Will07c5 | there definitely are a few bugs left in DR so I'm going to work on fixing them |
| 00:44.01 | Will07c5 | is happy to have free time after a busy week :) |
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| 03:13.20 | jcp | ~google opengroove |
| 03:13.31 | jcp | ~pin |
| 03:13.31 | ibot | somebody said pin was $1 <action> laughs as jcp gets $1 in a headlock while screaming 'Say Uncle!' |
| 03:13.34 | jcp | ~ping |
| 03:13.34 | ibot | ~pong |
| 03:13.48 | jcp | ~google OpenGroove |
| 03:13.50 | jcp | darn |
| 03:14.25 | blast007 | google works better in your browser |
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| 04:03.00 | KingofCamelot | Hey brlcad. Were you just saying hi earlier, or did you need to talk to me? Was asleep, but awake now. :) |
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| 04:20.46 | brlcad | KingofCamelot: hi :) |
| 04:22.26 | jorgenpt | ~pin brlcad |
| 04:22.33 | jorgenpt | Hm. I don't get how ibot works. |
| 04:22.34 | jorgenpt | :p |
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| 04:24.24 | brlcad | ~whaleslap jorgenpt |
| 04:24.32 | me1 | ~fail both of you |
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| 04:27.30 | brlcad | something is wrong with ibot -- many of her factoids are missing including self-identify |
| 04:28.47 | jorgenpt | ~ibot |
| 04:28.47 | ibot | It's me |
| 04:31.15 | brlcad | perhaps some upgrade bug or a db is missing or people have been messing with it |
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| 04:39.16 | alexbanceanu | hey, i wrote a message here yesterday to let you know i couldn't send a patch by the deadline. i wanted to know if you received it, and if i can still send a patch. if so, what exactly are you looking for in this patch (bugfix from the tracker, something speciffic etc.) |
| 04:40.56 | brlcad | alexbanceanu: thanks for the note -- we'll be commenting on the apps over the weekend and next week so keep an eye out |
| 04:41.01 | brlcad | you can still send the patch |
| 04:41.14 | brlcad | we may still want more information or additional submission detail too |
| 04:41.58 | brlcad | if we do, there will be a comment to consider putting your proposal on your user page on our wiki so you can make edits |
| 04:42.11 | brlcad | (if you haven't already of course) |
| 04:42.59 | alexbanceanu | ok, so can you give me a good example of what sort of patch you're expecting? |
| 04:43.08 | brlcad | note really |
| 04:43.59 | brlcad | because we're not expecting a particular sort |
| 04:43.59 | jcp | Is there any particular reason why bzflag 3.0 will only download images from images.bzflag.org? |
| 04:43.59 | brlcad | you're just expected to do something interesting |
| 04:43.59 | brlcad | ideally something that demonstrates your ability to code |
| 04:43.59 | jcp | It seems like a burden to disallow server owners from hosting their own images |
| 04:43.59 | jcp | which could be dynamically generated |
| 04:43.59 | brlcad | minimally something that shows you know how to check out sources and compile a minor change |
| 04:44.39 | alexbanceanu | that i've done already. i'll look over the sourceforge tracker and see if i find something interesting then. |
| 04:44.57 | brlcad | alexbanceanu: be sure to check out the BUGS and TODO file in a source checkout as well |
| 04:45.10 | brlcad | bugs are often very good ones to hit |
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| 04:45.19 | alexbanceanu | ok |
| 04:45.39 | brlcad | because it's usually a lot harder to read code that write it, yet in open source you usually do end up reading a lot more than you write |
| 04:45.51 | brlcad | s/that write/than write/ |
| 04:46.46 | brlcad | alexbanceanu: you also haven't had much/any contact -- recommend you be available on irc more and to respond to any comments on your application if they have been posted |
| 04:47.24 | jcp | ~factoid literal weather |
| 04:47.35 | jcp | erg, wrong channel, ignore that |
| 04:47.52 | trepan | jcp: users can edit DownloadAccess.txt |
| 04:47.55 | brlcad | no worries, ibot seems to be busted |
| 04:48.31 | alexbanceanu | i talked more with jeffM, he was the only one to comment on my proposals so far (except for a message that seemed standard) |
| 04:49.14 | JeffM | yay an IRC name to attach to a real name :) |
| 04:49.29 | jcp | trepan: Right, but why have it exclude anything outside of images.bzflag.org by default? |
| 04:50.07 | alexbanceanu | JeffM : you mean mine? |
| 04:50.10 | trepan | jcp: easier to whitelist than to blacklist |
| 04:50.11 | JeffM | yes |
| 04:50.24 | jcp | trepan: I don't follow... |
| 04:50.34 | jcp | That seems to make it harder for server owners to host maps |
| 04:50.42 | jcp | especially if they wanted images in a map to be dynamic |
| 04:50.49 | jcp | s/dynamic/dynamically-generated/ |
| 04:51.34 | trepan | it also makes it harder to put pr0n on rogue servers, or tub girl, or what have you |
| 04:52.10 | JeffM | jcp, we plan on having the client ask the user to accept your stuff if it's not auto approved |
| 04:52.26 | JeffM | and yeah it's mostly for kids |
| 04:53.08 | trepan | of course with colored mesh worlds, it's sort of a moot point ;-) |
| 04:53.13 | jcp | heh, that makes sense now |
| 04:53.21 | trepan | but that would take effort ... |
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| 04:53.54 | jcp | trepan: would it take all that much effort? I wrote a program that created html pages to display an image with absolutely no img tag |
| 04:54.08 | jcp | Admittedly, a 320 by 240 image generated a 5MB html file... |
| 04:54.45 | trepan | jcp: 'effort' is relative :) |
| 04:56.19 | blast007 | JeffM: seems like I might need to get the full PSDK to build the GDF dll (I've been using what came with VCEE) |
| 04:57.26 | JeffM | fun |
| 04:58.10 | blast007 | only 1330MB for the latest non-beta PSDK ;) (Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows Server 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5) |
| 04:58.55 | JeffM | heh |
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| 05:09.15 | Yamar | hey guys! |
| 05:09.31 | blast007 | hi |
| 05:10.10 | blast007 | Yamar: have you still had the "Sound Volume: Unavailable" problem in Vista? |
| 05:14.41 | PositiveG | hey Yamar |
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| 05:33.35 | blast007 | Yamar: if you still do, try this installer and see if it works: http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.99.x/bzflag-2.99.19.20090403.exe |
| 05:33.44 | blast007 | it works on my Vista laptop |
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| 07:39.06 | Yamar | hey positiveG! |
| 07:39.13 | Yamar | gwt your map up yet? |
| 07:39.27 | PositiveG | hehe, yes, it was up on my server |
| 07:39.36 | Yamar | whats it called? |
| 07:39.52 | PositiveG | frankly, the players cared more about the server lagstats than the map itself |
| 07:40.02 | PositiveG | oh, it's down right now |
| 07:40.12 | Yamar | heh... |
| 07:40.14 | PositiveG | I'll put it up |
| 07:40.24 | Yamar | k |
| 07:40.35 | PositiveG | I mean, a server on wif can't be very good now, can it? =P |
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| 07:40.52 | Yamar | huh? |
| 07:40.53 | PositiveG | 90 jitter per player 300+ lag etc |
| 07:41.01 | Yamar | ouch... |
| 07:41.06 | PositiveG | yeah... |
| 07:41.27 | PositiveG | hold on, I'll add you to my *.vip and go private... |
| 07:41.36 | Yamar | is it your server personally? |
| 07:41.42 | PositiveG | yes |
| 07:41.44 | Yamar | k |
| 07:41.45 | PositiveG | on my laptop |
| 07:41.49 | Yamar | ah... |
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| 07:44.05 | PositiveG | heh...had my firewall off... |
| 07:44.11 | PositiveG | server is up |
| 07:44.20 | PositiveG | just search for it |
| 07:44.27 | Yamar | whats it called? |
| 07:44.27 | PositiveG | only you can find it :) |
| 07:44.44 | PositiveG | "Work in Progress by Positive Gravity" |
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| 08:35.44 | nightstrike | I got a score of 8-15 :D |
| 08:40.50 | Constitution | nightstrike: that all? I can get much lower :) |
| 08:41.03 | nightstrike | nah |
| 08:41.05 | nightstrike | i had some work |
| 08:41.07 | nightstrike | so din play for too long |
| 08:41.13 | nightstrike | i think this game is better played with a mouse |
| 08:41.15 | nightstrike | than the keyboard |
| 08:41.23 | nightstrike | jumping on to platforms becomes hell with the keyboard |
| 08:41.54 | Constitution | just need to distance it right :) |
| 08:42.06 | Constitution | although mouse is definitely more flexible |
| 08:48.21 | nightstrike | yeah |
| 08:48.22 | nightstrike | true |
| 08:48.36 | nightstrike | and i hate it when i fall of a ledge during a battle and spin more than necessary... :| |
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| 12:14.26 | pi31415926535 | hello i'm not attending to gsoc under bzflag but i want to contribute |
| 12:14.38 | pi31415926535 | can someone give me a kickstart? |
| 12:14.49 | pi31415926535 | never contributed to an opensource project |
| 12:15.13 | pi31415926535 | downloaded and installed from source |
| 12:15.49 | pi31415926535 | which code file should i start studying to understand how things work? |
| 12:21.08 | catay | I'm not sure there is 'one' code file that makes you understand how it all works |
| 12:23.12 | catay | play the game and you will find a small bug , and try to fix it then |
| 12:23.43 | catay | or write a simple plugin , you can learn a lot from how the game works if you look into the bz api |
| 12:24.34 | catay | check out plugins/ and include/bzfsAPI.h |
| 12:25.12 | catay | or to start looking into the server code src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx is a good start |
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| 12:32.00 | blast007 | pi31415926535: all of them ;) |
| 12:33.13 | pi31415926535 | thanks a lot guys |
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| 12:42.22 | joevano | pi31415926535: you can also go to our sourceforge site and look at the reported bugs |
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| 13:38.48 | me1 | odd, it seems that I don't see my hight-meter on the mousebox until I pick up a flag, on servers with jumping enabled |
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| 14:44.50 | Yamar | hey me1 |
| 14:46.26 | me1 | hello |
| 14:46.43 | Yamar | wats up? |
| 14:46.48 | me1 | nm |
| 14:46.54 | Yamar | k |
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| 17:16.18 | JeffM | default rabbit mode is score based right? |
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| 17:29.37 | delusional | i dont think there is a default, you have to use score/killer/random when you turn rabbit on |
| 17:30.01 | JeffM | ok |
| 17:30.09 | JeffM | then killer will be my default :) |
| 17:30.12 | delusional | i didnt check tho |
| 17:35.18 | Cygal | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.19 | Cygal | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:35.42 | JeffM | but I hate that mode :) |
| 17:39.17 | Cygal | by the way, rabbit doesn't work in trunk |
| 17:39.42 | JeffM | cool |
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| 17:50.03 | JeffM | hmmmm.. docs don't seem to show the option for a timed game :( |
| 17:51.05 | Cygal | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.10 | Cygal | this? |
| 17:51.17 | JeffM | yeah I guess |
| 17:51.22 | JeffM | odd that it isn't in the wiki |
| 17:51.54 | Cygal | I guess it has been added after the page creation |
| 17:52.02 | JeffM | naw |
| 17:52.11 | JeffM | it' in like 2.x |
| 17:52.13 | Cygal | then it's weird indeed |
| 17:52.24 | JeffM | thanks for finding it tho :) |
| 18:23.49 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19590 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/StartBZFS/ (Form1.Designer.cs Form1.cs ServerConfig.cs ServerLoger.cs): add features and items to replace the functionality of the in game start server menu that was removed. |
| 18:30.12 | JeffM | DTRemenak: you awake yet? |
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| 18:53.15 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19591 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/StartBZFS/Prefrences.cs: |
| 18:53.15 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: check the program files dirs for installed bzflags before we look for the "dir" files in the config on windows. |
| 18:53.15 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: stub out client and server finding sections for nix and tosh so they can look in fancy places too :) |
| 18:53.18 | JeffM | stupid Xfire registry key is cleared when bzflag exist :( won't tell me where the last run instance was |
| 19:09.41 | JeffM | well time to get a wibu install on the main machine to see why StartBZFS won't run on yon linux :) |
| 19:10.24 | JeffM | if anyone wants to try it, here's a bin http://my.bzflag.org/staff/jeffm/StartBZFS_0.0.1.zip |
| 19:10.32 | JeffM | no clue what it'll do on mac and linux |
| 19:10.39 | JeffM | tho I do know it starts on nix :) |
| 19:11.56 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19592 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/StartBZFS/Form1.Designer.cs: add a version number to track testing |
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| 20:25.17 | JeffM | tries pidgn with IRC |
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| 21:00.50 | JeffM | yay, another pooched linux install on my record :) |
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| 21:22.57 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19593 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/StartBZFS/ (Form1.cs Prefrences.cs StartBZFS.csproj): |
| 21:22.57 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: Take out the warning when you don't have valid paths, that's what the status bar is for |
| 21:22.57 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: Remove the check for OSX and assume if it's not windows or unix it's OSX. |
| 21:22.57 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: Don't try to scan a world dir that dosn't exist |
| 21:22.57 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: This all seems to make it run on linux just fine now. |
| 21:24.18 | jnd | hi, how do I cancel mouse grab in window mode? |
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| 21:31.12 | BulletCatcher | jnd: While the bzflag client is running go to Options -> Input Settings -> Confine Mouse and set it to "no". |
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| 21:46.13 | JeffM2501 | well, looks like it works on linux now :) |
| 21:48.25 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/staff/jeffm/StartBZFS_linux.png |
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| 21:51.50 | dexter- | ~bzflist |
| 21:52.02 | dexter- | huh.. |
| 21:52.23 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 21:54.42 | Winny | that's alotta bzexcess |
| 21:54.52 | Winny | blames blast007 |
| 21:54.53 | delusional | excess bzexcess |
| 21:55.04 | JeffM2501 | no, extra bots ;) |
| 21:55.25 | Winny | yo dawg I herd yo like bzexcess so I put some bzexess in yo bzexcess so yo can excess while yo excess |
| 21:56.00 | Winny | yeah I know that was awful |
| 22:02.29 | delusional | http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/04/chia-obama-has-cornrows-and-a-growing-green-afro/ |
| 22:02.43 | delusional | woop ww |
| 22:26.28 | *** join/#bzflag AAA_awright (n=a3@ip70-176-237-124.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 22:52.12 | JeffM2501 | done think he got his sockets stuff in php wrong :( |
| 22:54.36 | JeffM2501 | what does putting an @ infront of a function do? |
| 22:54.50 | JeffM2501 | fsockopen does something different then @fsockopen |
| 23:01.19 | Wyk3d | http://php.net/operators.errorcontrol |
| 23:02.02 | JeffM2501 | ahh so that's why it's spewing out crap :) |
| 23:02.06 | JeffM2501 | hmmm |
| 23:02.18 | JeffM2501 | then I am confused how the list server works |
| 23:02.24 | JeffM2501 | it just checks to see if the socket reutrned is null |
| 23:02.36 | JeffM2501 | and I've got a little page with the same code, and it's always returning something |
| 23:02.48 | JeffM2501 | unless I pull th @ and then it spews out tons of errors |
| 23:03.44 | Wyk3d | maybe the error reporting is changed in some other way in the list server |
| 23:03.54 | Wyk3d | like http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.error-reporting.php |
| 23:04.03 | *** join/#bzflag Yamar (n=Yamar@ip-159.250.64.106.dsl.crocker.net) |
| 23:04.13 | JeffM2501 | I'm running the page on the same machine :) |
| 23:04.23 | Yamar | hey everybody! |
| 23:04.29 | JeffM2501 | helo |
| 23:06.56 | Wyk3d | i found error_reporting called in Smarty.class.php .. maybe that's included and used somehow |
| 23:07.55 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 23:11.03 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19594 10/trunk/web/misc/ (. servertest.php): add a little php page that just does the list server pingback on TCP and UDP to help StartBZFS test router setups. |
| 23:11.22 | JeffM2501 | that's my super simple page, yet it always returns that the connection was ok :( |
| 23:11.40 | JeffM2501 | even on whackass ports |
| 23:11.45 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/staff/jeffm/servertest.php?port=4444 |
| 23:17.39 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19595 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/StartBZFS/ (6 files): add a simple test feature for servers so that owners can verify that they have the correct open ports (servertest.php still needs help) |
| 23:24.31 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19596 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/StartBZFS/ (Form1.Designer.cs Form1.cs): update version |
| 23:31.08 | blast007 | and no, I'm not running bots on my bzexcess servers for trunk |
| 23:31.20 | blast007 | the format of the list server hex string for trunk is different |
| 23:31.22 | JeffM2501 | well we know ibot is kerbusted ;) |
| 23:37.34 | blast007 | JeffM2501: would you ever be passing in a different address to that script? seems like that's just asking for abuse |
| 23:37.55 | JeffM2501 | I'm going to have it check when I'm done testing ;) |
| 23:38.15 | JeffM2501 | yes I know it's the spambot 10000 right now |
| 23:38.19 | blast007 | hehe |
| 23:38.23 | JeffM2501 | tho for a server you could have a web proxy |
| 23:38.39 | JeffM2501 | so your request isn't the same as your host :( |
| 23:39.38 | blast007 | run the check over port 81 ;) |
| 23:39.51 | JeffM2501 | perhaps |
| 23:39.58 | JeffM2501 | I think I got it working finaly |
| 23:39.58 | Yamar | lots of server talk... |
| 23:40.09 | JeffM2501 | my error reporting was bad |
| 23:40.32 | *** join/#bzflag dexter- (n=whodaman@bzflag/player/Dexter) |
| 23:41.09 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19597 10/trunk/web/misc/servertest.php: report errors properly for port testing |
| 23:41.11 | blast007 | Yamar: did you see my message from last night regarding vista and your previous sound issues? |
| 23:41.13 | JeffM2501 | should I just compare the DNS IP to the request IP now and just warn if it dosn't match? |
| 23:41.34 | blast007 | JeffM2501: basically only use the address they provide to check if it matches the request IP |
| 23:41.40 | blast007 | and then use the request IP to connect |
| 23:41.42 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 23:45.54 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19598 10/trunk/web/misc/servertest.php: verify that the request address matches the host name that is requested. |
| 23:48.18 | JeffM2501 | ok, now I just need a thread listening for that stuff :) |
| 23:53.24 | blast007 | strange that it's returning OK.. |
| 23:53.34 | blast007 | I know for a fact that my port 80 is blocked ;) |
| 23:55.56 | Yamar | huh? I am not on vista? im on a mac! |
| 23:56.10 | Yamar | no sound isues for me :D |
| 23:57.20 | blast007 | k, I must be thinking of someone else then |
| 23:58.10 | blast007 | ah, that was Yassen |
| 23:58.12 | Yamar | probably |
| 23:58.12 | blast007 | I was close ;) |
| 23:58.15 | *** join/#bzflag TD-Linux (n=wheeeeee@96-42-68-26.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 23:58.53 | Yamar | yep, i was just on with him, i think hese on 2 tanks with 41 score/ |
