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03:05.43CIA-66BZFlag: 03trepan * r19377 10/trunk/bzflag/ (5 files in 3 dirs): * setup LuaFontTexture to work with BzVFS
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03:29.27CIA-66BZFlag: 03trepan * r19378 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (common/BzVFS.cxx lua/LuaFontTexture.cxx):
03:29.27CIA-66BZFlag: * moved the lua client-side script write directories into the cache directory
03:29.27CIA-66BZFlag: * better LuaFontTexture::Execute() return values
04:02.31CIA-66BZFlag: 03bthansen * r19379 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx:
04:02.31CIA-66BZFlag: bzfs: Add /debug command
04:02.31CIA-66BZFlag: Allow changing the debug level at runtime
04:02.32CIA-66BZFlag: Requires SETALL permissions to execute
04:02.32CIA-66BZFlag: 03bthansen * r19380 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx):
04:02.32CIA-66BZFlag: bzfsAPI: Add bz_setDebugLevel()
04:02.36CIA-66BZFlag: Plugins can change the debug level at runtime.
04:02.38CIA-66BZFlag: 03bthansen * r19381 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/serverControl/ (plugins.cfg serverControl.cpp): Add option to ignore observers for server shutdowns
04:02.41CIA-66BZFlag: 03bthansen * r19383 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/serverControl/serverControl.cpp:
04:02.43CIA-66BZFlag: Limit filesystem checks to once every 3 seconds
04:02.45CIA-66BZFlag: bz_eTickEvents happen alot when players are connected. There's no need
04:02.51CIA-66BZFlag: to wail on the operating system every tick just to see if bans have been
04:02.53CIA-66BZFlag: updated. Once every 3 seconds is more than sufficient.
04:02.55CIA-66BZFlag: 03bthansen * r19382 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/serverControl/serverControl.cpp:
04:02.57CIA-66BZFlag: Only report ban file access errors once
04:02.59CIA-66BZFlag: This prevents spamming the logs when the banfiles are misconfigured or
04:03.05CIA-66BZFlag: unavailable.
04:06.22CIA-66BZFlag: 03bthansen * r19384 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/serverControl/serverControl.cpp: Whitespace
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05:12.05trepanbzfs and bzflag both have "/debug" now ... the server version is only for bzadmin?
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05:47.59trepanas for /debug, the client can use the /localset command instead (because debugLevel is set via a BZDB callback)
05:50.15trepan(less convenient though, as local BZDB variable word completion doesn't work)
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08:52.13trepanplanning to add the following tokenizing format:   /kick The\ Player just because
08:52.20trepan(escaped spaces)
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12:10.17Thumper_good morning trepan - I wasn't aware that the client could change the debug level via the BZDB variable...
12:10.42Thumper_I don't have a problem with reverting those commits if that's what you want to do
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12:57.30braddoes anyone have DXSDK_Nov08.exe on their system? if so, could you possibly provide a md5/sha hash of it?
12:57.43brad(speaking on behalf of someone else who can't talk here)
12:58.07bradantivirus is saying it contains a trojan..
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13:22.08randomparticleavira is saying it's found a trojan in the directx sdk installer
13:22.59RatOmeterbrad, that's the latest, right?  If so, that's what I have installed (I didn't let it use the data in the install path).  I'll see if I still have the installer download
13:23.06randomparticlethe installer is unaltered since i downloaded it under OS X
13:23.27RatOmetergot McAffee here. It didn't complain
13:23.36randomparticlei suspect a false positive
13:23.44randomparticlebut not taking any risks :)
13:24.14RatOmeterawright. Got the file. What do I use on Winders to calc the hash?
13:24.31randomparticleone sec
13:25.16randomparticleunder windows i used this: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=B3C93558-31B7-47E2-A663-7365C1686C08&displaylang=en
13:25.28randomparticleit just extracts a command line tool to a folder of your choice
13:28.01randomparticleyou can get fancier md5/sha tools, but that one's as simple as it gets and is from a trustworthy source (one hopes)
13:28.07RatOmeter58dc4df814685a165f58037499c89e76 windows-kb841290-x86-enu.exe
13:28.17randomparticlegreat thanks. let me compare
13:28.18RatOmetergah. wrong file
13:28.24RatOmeterwait, that was wrong
13:28.27randomparticlehmm yeah :)
13:28.53randomparticleyou got the hash of the md5 hasher :)
13:28.59RatOmeter;)
13:29.01RatOmeter38c6525744336058f7033433ee1ad217 dxsdk_nov08.exe
13:29.07randomparticlegreat. one sec
13:29.16RatOmeteris headed to a meeting
13:29.44randomparticleand mine is: 38c6525744336058f7033433ee1ad217
13:29.52randomparticlethe same!
13:30.35randomparticleok. so what we got here? two possibilities:
13:31.29randomparticle(a) the file got infected with a trojan under OS X, and ratometer's file is infected with the same thing in the same way giving the file the same checksum
13:31.32randomparticle(b) false positive
13:31.43randomparticlei'd say (a) is rather unlikely
13:32.27randomparticleor there's (c) microsoft infected it :)
13:39.25RatOmeterwell, that's a given.
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15:21.08RatOmeterDo I recall someone here talking about attempting to build/run BZ for an Atom based note/netbook?
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16:19.20trepanThumper_: could do something as simple as s|/debug|/debugLevel|
16:19.39Thumper_trepan: ok - I wasn't aware there was a /debug already in the client
16:19.48Thumper_I've been using this on v2_0 branch from bzadmin only (so far)
16:19.51Thumper_I'll fix it
16:20.12Thumper_maybe /serverDebugLevel ?
16:20.14trepanya, added it a little while ago, also displays a "Debug" tab when (debugLevel > 0)
16:23.10Thumper_I don't really like /debug for the client and /debugLevel for the server - too hard to remember which is which - maybe /debug and /serverDebug ? any better ideas?
16:23.26trepanthat sounds fine to me
16:23.51Thumper_ok thx
16:23.56trepanditto
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16:36.38CIA-66BZFlag: 03trepan * r19385 10/trunk/bzflag/ (10 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
16:36.38CIA-66BZFlag: * added the 'useEscapes' parameter to TextUtils::tokenize()
16:36.38CIA-66BZFlag:  (allows you to use "\ " to embed spaces in a token)
16:36.38CIA-66BZFlag: * added the alternate AutoCompleter::complete() method, which inserts
16:36.38CIA-66BZFlag:  matches into a set<string> (the same pattern as used by EventHandler)
16:36.41CIA-66BZFlag: * used the alternate AutoCompleter::complete() method for bzflag word
16:36.43CIA-66BZFlag:  completion (callsigns with spaces will be completed using the escaped
16:40.39CIA-66BZFlag: 03bthansen * r19386 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx:
16:40.39CIA-66BZFlag: Rename bzfs command /debug to /serverdebug
16:40.39CIA-66BZFlag: There is already a local /debug defined for the client so the only way
16:40.39CIA-66BZFlag: to access this command is from bzadmin unless we make the name unique.
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16:55.13CIA-66BZFlag: 03trepan * r19387 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/CommandsImplementation.cxx: * '/debug' without an argument reports the current debugLevel value
16:55.37blast007heh.. in my attempt to fix a build error or two on Windows, I'm up to 813 now  >.<
16:56.01trepanbuild errors, or warnings?
16:56.05blast007errors
16:56.17blast007trying a clean build from a clean checkout quick
16:56.29blast007originally it was a linker error
16:56.36blast007and now it's 813 linker errors
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16:57.07trepanblast007: the FTGL thing that was mentionned a few days ago?  (or was that for Mac?)
16:57.16blast007it was something with lua
16:57.51blast007I'll see if I get it again with a clean build
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17:42.24CIA-66BZFlag: 03blast007 * r19388 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/build/ (bzfs.vcproj clientLua.vcproj): Added LuaControl.cxx/h to clientLua project and updated the bzfs project to use LuaServer.cxx/h.
17:51.13RatOmeterguesses PushEntries
17:51.49blast007RatOmeter: yup
17:52.20trepanPushEntries what?
17:52.39trepanthat where the linkage failed?
17:52.39RatOmeterunresolved external symbol "public: static bool __cdecl LuaControl::PushEntries(struct lua_State *)
17:52.55blast007yeah
17:53.08blast007was missing the LuaControl.cxx/h file
17:53.10trepanya, almost all of the lua libs are loaded through that call, makes sense  ;-)
17:53.42RatOmeterruns to update
17:54.13trepanblast007: you'll probably have another new file to add by day's end  :)
17:54.27blast007my 800 errors was because I confused src/lua/ with src/other/lua/  ;)
17:54.42trepanblast007: actually, the plan is to change that too
17:54.48blast007heh
17:55.07trepanparts of src/lua will move to src/bzflag/lua
17:55.31trepanand src/lua will generate libLuaCommon
17:55.47trepan(and possibly get moved into src/game/lua)
17:56.14trepanhm, i guess libLuaGame would make more sense there ...  :)
18:01.03CIA-66BZFlag: 03trepan * r19389 10/trunk/bzflag/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
18:01.03CIA-66BZFlag: * fixed some FIXMEs
18:01.03CIA-66BZFlag: * added Frustum::getBillboardMatrix()
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20:30.04joevanoblast007: ping
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21:33.15blast007joevano: pong
21:33.44joevanodid you see the coppa post from RatFink on the forums?
21:34.07blast007yeah
21:34.31blast007never had anyone ask that before.
21:34.34joevanoi dont think we have a good answer
21:34.52joevanoi signed up a coppa account and we do not collect dob
21:35.01blast007the only thing that classifies him as a COPPA user should be our COPPA group, right?
21:35.24joevanoyeah but i don't want to tell him how to get out of it
21:35.42joevanoand im not sure how we could verify that he SHOULD be out of it
21:36.24ErroneousTim keeps all the paperwork for that stuff, run it by him
21:36.47joevanoyeah, he wasn't here so I wanted to get some ideas
21:37.39joevanoi was thinking we should collect DOB on our form and then tim could add it in the user notes in user admin for that user
21:38.47joevanosomething like "Recieved user COPPA letter DOB:xx/xx/xxxx" that way it would be noted on the account if they should "slip" out of the group
21:40.10blast007there is a real COPPA group in phpBB3 as well
21:40.32blast007I'm not sure if any of the users in that one are actually activated though
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21:52.49CIA-66BZFlag: 03blast007 * r19390 10/trunk/bzflag/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
21:52.49CIA-66BZFlag: Revert r16997 by JeffM2501 because it broke printFatalError(). From a quick
21:52.49CIA-66BZFlag: debugging session, it looked like printFatalError was being called before the
21:52.49CIA-66BZFlag: callback was added, so no message box was displayed for invalid parameters or
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