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| 00:13.13 | iShock | So hi |
| 00:18.14 | blast007 | hi |
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| 00:31.20 | iShock | Whatcha doin blast007 |
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| 01:02.55 | blast007 | iShock: working |
| 01:03.04 | iShock | oh |
| 01:03.46 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19357 10/trunk/bzflag/src/lua/ (LuaDouble.cxx LuaVFS.cxx): * added unary functions to LuaDouble's __index method (ex: double(-123).abs) |
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| 01:35.19 | coderack | Hi am in a CS class, we are thinking of making bots for the bzflag. I am wondering if there is want to make the turrent turn on the tanks? |
| 01:36.01 | Winny | turrets will not turn - it is a design decision |
| 01:37.10 | blast007 | coderack: there is a way, but it would just involve you writing a lot of code to add it ;D |
| 01:37.28 | temp_dist | as well as forking the game |
| 01:37.47 | blast007 | yes, that would be quite a protocol breaking change |
| 01:37.55 | coderack | ok, what about the AI, there's a function in the code that seems to be something of a learning algorithm. is it fully implemented? |
| 01:38.09 | blast007 | temp_dist: but is is for a class, so a fork would be reasonable |
| 01:38.12 | coderack | well i just don't see why the turrets aren't turning if it's a tank game |
| 01:38.23 | coderack | we may ghave to fork it |
| 01:38.30 | blast007 | coderack: we have several forms of AI |
| 01:38.32 | temp_dist | it's a design decision |
| 01:38.44 | blast007 | because it's supposed to be a simple game |
| 01:39.02 | temp_dist | till someone added "superflags" grr |
| 01:39.44 | blast007 | coderack: there is the -solo bots on the client that have a fairly nice navigation ability and pretty good accuracy, but they can't jump or use flags |
| 01:40.04 | blast007 | they run as extra bots along side your main player connection |
| 01:40.25 | coderack | yeah i saw that |
| 01:40.36 | coderack | we're thinking of breaking into teams and writing our own bots |
| 01:40.40 | coderack | it's for algorithms class |
| 01:41.10 | coderack | about supperflags, can the bots "see" what flags are near them? |
| 01:41.43 | coderack | specifically which flag it is, i saw that they can search for a flag, but can they look for a specific one, like the guided shot or other stuff |
| 01:41.44 | coderack | ? |
| 01:42.07 | blast007 | there is also bzrobots, but I don't know much about that |
| 01:46.28 | coderack | ok thanks guys! |
| 01:49.00 | Yassen | -solo bots in 2.99.x will pick up flags |
| 01:49.20 | iShock | Wait, blast007, 2.0 -solo bots can't jump? |
| 01:49.43 | temp_dist | that's right |
| 01:49.52 | temp_dist | autopilot can jump tho |
| 01:50.11 | AAA_awright | I have never seen auto jump... I thought it was the same thing anyways |
| 01:50.37 | temp_dist | it's not - autopilot is a bit smarter (not much) |
| 01:57.56 | TD-Linux | coderack, there is a GSoC project called bzrobots that was designed to do that |
| 01:58.11 | TD-Linux | coderack, also, bzflag as a tank game is sorta abstract :P |
| 01:58.29 | TD-Linux | adding turret rotation to bzflag would be like adding realistic physics to frogger... it's just wrong ;) |
| 01:59.26 | TD-Linux | the limited turning speed of the tanks is critical of gameplay (forcing one to use ricochets, for example) and also an interesting AI challenge :) |
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| 02:02.15 | iShock | Is there a list of changes anywhere for 2.0.13? |
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| 02:05.20 | AAA_awright | Oh, I do remember autopilot jumping. |
| 02:06.56 | Constitution | iShock: check the NEWS file? |
| 02:07.22 | iShock | Well, I hadn't planned on downloading it or anything unless there was a reason to upgrade |
| 02:07.44 | Constitution | look in svn |
| 02:08.19 | iShock | I'm either blind or just stupid, I don't see one for .13 |
| 02:09.56 | Constitution | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/ChangeLog |
| 02:10.32 | iShock | New font? |
| 02:11.21 | iShock | There a screenie of it anywhere? |
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| 02:28.09 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || Channel Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || Latest Release: 2.0.12 (linux), 2.0.10 (everyone else) |
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| 03:06.21 | TD-Linux | iShock, you could uh, download it |
| 03:06.31 | iShock | ...? |
| 03:06.34 | TD-Linux | or I could tell you that it's the same as Sans |
| 03:06.37 | TD-Linux | on Linux |
| 03:06.52 | iShock | I'm on Windows |
| 03:06.52 | TD-Linux | and that it's currently my default system font ;) |
| 03:07.10 | TD-Linux | it's like a less ugly version of Arial |
| 03:07.23 | iShock | Can you take a screenshot? :( |
| 03:07.43 | Abominable | Times new roman? |
| 03:08.46 | TD-Linux | you could also use.... |
| 03:08.48 | TD-Linux | GOOGLE! |
| 03:08.48 | TD-Linux | http://dejavu-fonts.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page |
| 03:09.04 | iShock | Still doesn't tell me how it looks in BZFlag |
| 03:09.10 | TD-Linux | it looks the same |
| 03:09.14 | TD-Linux | as in that screeshot |
| 03:09.17 | TD-Linux | except on whtie |
| 03:09.17 | Abominable | iShock: what are you trying to do? |
| 03:09.27 | iShock | See what DejaVu looks like in BZFlag |
| 03:09.38 | Abominable | Why don't you test it. |
| 03:09.42 | TD-Linux | he's trying to get other people to run bzflag and take screeshots so he can be lazy and not see for himself |
| 03:09.46 | Abominable | Slap it in a config, public test it. |
| 03:10.06 | iShock | Yeah, I'm going to build 2.0.13 on windows, wasting HD space and time, to see a FONT |
| 03:10.21 | Abominable | Awww |
| 03:10.24 | Abominable | So sorry |
| 03:10.39 | Abominable | IMO Sans Serif font (Times new roman) is the best. |
| 03:10.42 | Abominable | Looks the most |
| 03:10.59 | Abominable | ...professional, neat, overall better. |
| 03:11.03 | Abominable | more* |
| 03:11.25 | iShock | I like profont |
| 03:12.07 | Abominable | Well if you are thinking about starting a server, think about what the _players_ want. |
| 03:12.40 | iShock | ...Wtf, who said something about starting a server |
| 03:12.52 | Abominable | Re-read what I said |
| 03:12.56 | Abominable | _If_ |
| 03:15.15 | TD-Linux | on a side note, I find win xp's font rendering horrible :( |
| 03:15.20 | TD-Linux | even with cleartype |
| 03:16.31 | Abominable | I find windows period horrible |
| 03:16.46 | Abominable | But, no, I can't use linux. |
| 03:16.57 | Abominable | grabs a hammer and stares at his HP. |
| 03:16.58 | TD-Linux | windows vista seems better |
| 03:17.06 | TD-Linux | but I've never actually done A/B tests :P |
| 03:17.22 | Abominable | Kidding me? |
| 03:17.29 | Abominable | If I had my choice, I'd be on XP |
| 03:17.56 | TD-Linux | for font rendering |
| 03:18.16 | TD-Linux | disclaimer: my nick indicates what my gold standard for font rendering is |
| 03:18.50 | TD-Linux | also I use full hinting, which many people seem to hate |
| 03:18.59 | Abominable | Ah |
| 03:22.46 | trepan | spawn, set speed, set angvel, fire, jump, dropflag, and lock |
| 03:23.08 | trepan | any missing bz controls? |
| 03:25.56 | me1 | identify (tank)? |
| 03:28.58 | TD-Linux | that's a client feature I think |
| 03:29.00 | TD-Linux | same with hunt |
| 03:29.20 | trepan | lua can do info queries via alternate methods |
| 03:29.56 | TD-Linux | pause ? |
| 03:30.20 | trepan | not much need for that; but ya, i'll add it |
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| 03:52.51 | blast007 | iShock: none of the -solo bots can jump |
| 03:53.17 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19358 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (11 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 03:53.17 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: * added the 'control' table to client-side lua scripts: |
| 03:53.17 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: - Move(speed, angVel) { -1 to +1 ranges } |
| 03:53.17 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: - Fire() |
| 03:53.17 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: - Jump() |
| 03:53.18 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: - Spawn() |
| 03:53.19 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: - Pause() |
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| 04:10.15 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19359 10/trunk/bzflag/src/lua/ (LuaCallOuts.cxx LuaCallOuts.h LuaControl.cxx): * cleanup |
| 04:11.10 | trepan | if you have luaBzOrg enabled, you'll get a brain-dead autopilot |
| 04:11.37 | trepan | (this will be setup properly later) |
| 04:12.03 | trepan | ie: no feature override enabled by default |
| 04:12.38 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/LuaBzOrg.lua |
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| 04:13.40 | iShock | Why would lighting murder my fps |
| 04:14.00 | TD-Linux | iShock, what video card? o.O |
| 04:14.13 | iShock | ATI Radeon x1270 |
| 04:14.19 | TD-Linux | how do I run that lua script? it clearly doesn't go in a map... |
| 04:14.25 | TD-Linux | iShock, get new drivers ? |
| 04:14.39 | trepan | TD-Linux: /localset luaBzOrg 1 |
| 04:14.40 | iShock | Got the only ones I can find from ATI |
| 04:14.44 | trepan | (actually, enabled by default, iirc) |
| 04:14.49 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 04:14.58 | trepan | also try: /luabzorg |
| 04:14.59 | TD-Linux | where does the print at the beginning go to? |
| 04:15.20 | trepan | console |
| 04:15.32 | trepan | lua has a standard print() function, that goes to stdout |
| 04:15.44 | TD-Linux | ok, testing :) |
| 04:18.08 | TD-Linux | doesn't seem to do much but say it's enabled... that's a good sign though :P |
| 04:18.30 | TD-Linux | I wish the server list would load without having to press r :( |
| 04:18.54 | trepan | "say it's enabled"? |
| 04:19.06 | trepan | ... that bz.Print() line comes up? |
| 04:19.34 | iShock | Server list doesn't even load for me ... |
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| 04:23.38 | TD-Linux | oh no it doesn't |
| 04:24.22 | TD-Linux | oh yes it does |
| 04:24.26 | TD-Linux | I just had to hit reload |
| 04:24.32 | TD-Linux | or type :) |
| 04:25.45 | trepan | 6 to 13 (braindead-lua-bot vs '-solo bot') ;-) |
| 04:26.01 | iShock | What server/port, local one? |
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| 04:51.33 | TD-Linux | why does Move take -100 to 100, not -1 to 1? |
| 04:52.20 | trepan | it actually gets clamped to -1 to +1 internally |
| 04:56.47 | Yassen | When did the bzApiString stop becoming a std::string? |
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| 21:58.53 | spldart | "It was not possible to convert your password when updating this bulletin boardâs software. Please request a new password. If you continue to have problems please contact the Board Administrator." Was iz das? |
| 21:59.15 | spldart | My password for that account was simple alpha-numeric lower case only |
| 21:59.31 | TD-Linux | probably very old with some kind of obscure / insecure hash |
| 22:00.04 | spldart | I'm not sure I understand. |
| 22:00.32 | spldart | The username itself had a '_' in it. |
| 22:00.48 | spldart | But the password wasn't anything that should have caused any problem at all. |
| 22:01.03 | spldart | meh.. I'll just try to reset it. |
| 22:15.30 | spldart | Ok.. Now I need help.. I requested a new password and got it.. then tried it and get same error message. Can't login to bzbb |
| 22:15.50 | spldart | ...Under the name I happen to be trying... |
| 22:15.57 | spldart | brb |
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