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| 02:13.49 | corndawg | outta curiosity... is it possible to make transparent teleports? |
| 02:15.09 | blast007 | hmm, maybe. I know you can change the teleporter material. |
| 02:15.34 | corndawg | ah |
| 02:15.49 | blast007 | but it's for all teleporters, not specific ones |
| 02:15.51 | corndawg | would be slick to hide the teleports eh |
| 02:16.06 | a_meteorite | depends on your idea of fun |
| 02:16.12 | delusional | yes you can do that. with linkMaterial |
| 02:16.20 | a_meteorite | "What the...? WHAT? I GOT MOVED AGAIN!?" |
| 02:16.27 | corndawg | ah kewl |
| 02:16.35 | corndawg | im gonna have to toy arround with it |
| 02:16.37 | delusional | look in the map objects forum for my wormhole teleporters |
| 02:16.44 | corndawg | k |
| 02:16.51 | blast007 | it would still make the glow effect though |
| 02:16.58 | corndawg | ah |
| 02:17.37 | a_meteorite | delusional: I hope it's stargate related |
| 02:17.52 | a_meteorite | I'd love a stargate teleporter |
| 02:17.56 | TD-Linux | already exists |
| 02:18.03 | TD-Linux | magic linkmaterial |
| 02:18.03 | a_meteorite | I wanna see |
| 02:18.08 | TD-Linux | + circular arc |
| 02:18.12 | TD-Linux | I've seen them several places |
| 02:18.19 | TD-Linux | can't think of anywhere specific |
| 02:18.28 | TD-Linux | unfortunately the active area is still square |
| 02:18.34 | TD-Linux | so you can either let it stick out the sides a bit |
| 02:18.41 | TD-Linux | and make it clear |
| 02:18.45 | TD-Linux | or make the arc super fat |
| 02:18.55 | TD-Linux | or make the active area not cover the entire circular area |
| 02:20.20 | a_meteorite | :( |
| 02:21.14 | TD-Linux | the first option works okay, actually |
| 02:21.42 | TD-Linux | so does the third, especially if you have platform going to/through the stargate |
| 02:22.00 | a_meteorite | yeah that would work |
| 02:22.30 | a_meteorite | now you'd just need to simulate a wormhole tunnel :) |
| 02:22.46 | a_meteorite | hehe |
| 02:22.52 | blast007 | physics drivers to the rescue! |
| 02:26.24 | delusional | sir pants had a map with a stargate teleporter.... the one in jefenry's aztec ballcourt map is similar. |
| 02:26.39 | delusional | what was the name of that map pants made? |
| 02:27.30 | a_meteorite | did his aztec temple have a goa'uld sarcophagus too? |
| 02:28.28 | delusional | it's still playing bzbattleground.com:8000 |
| 02:34.04 | delusional | heres pant's map.. wideworld.. it has an excellent stargate style tele, right in the center. http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=10438&highlight= |
| 02:34.31 | a_meteorite | The topic or post you requested does not exist |
| 02:35.06 | delusional | oh, thats in a private forum |
| 02:35.49 | a_meteorite | bummer |
| 02:35.59 | delusional | http://pastebin.com/m595fae6d |
| 02:36.33 | a_meteorite | does he have a screenshot? |
| 02:37.50 | trepan | how about world text objects ... tied to BZDB variables ;-) |
| 02:38.41 | trepan | (in lieu of client-side scripts for 3.0) |
| 02:40.44 | trepan | sticking custom fonts in fake textures should work, might need to tweak FontManager |
| 02:41.53 | delusional | sounds like lots of fun. |
| 02:45.04 | delusional | wings3d will attempt ro make 3d objects using truetype fonts, and they sometimes look pretty good, but they end up with lots of non-planar faces |
| 02:45.16 | blast007 | trepan: or could it let Freetype render the TTF itself, and just link to the ttf file? |
| 02:45.53 | blast007 | our font system uses TTF files now |
| 02:46.06 | trepan | already ahead of ya ;-) |
| 02:46.13 | blast007 | :) |
| 02:47.56 | trepan | a caveat, 'text' objects are not going to be obstacles -- not going to work them into the grouping system |
| 02:48.41 | trepan | started TextObstacle.cxx|h, and got sick from looking at the physics stuff ;-) |
| 02:48.42 | blast007 | that's probably file anyway. I'd imagine typical uses would be for stuff that would be against another object anyway |
| 02:48.55 | trepan | that's exactly what I think as well |
| 02:49.21 | trepan | probably going to add a polygon offset option for that very reason |
| 02:49.31 | delusional | so they can be 2d? |
| 02:49.43 | trepan | they are currently 2d |
| 02:51.21 | trepan | ... although it is stored as size[3] ... for later ;-) |
| 02:51.50 | delusional | that will be a really great feature |
| 02:52.19 | trepan | a bloody ticker tape parade :) |
| 02:52.43 | delusional | i'm thinking scoreboard |
| 02:53.32 | trepan | i'm thinking lobby ... |
| 02:54.16 | delusional | the dodgeball map needed a lobby and a scoreboard! |
| 02:54.45 | trepan | by lobby, i mean a -ms 0 server that links to other servers |
| 02:55.48 | delusional | wow |
| 02:56.21 | trepan | MsgJoinServer is already there, now it's just a matter of putting so text over the teles |
| 02:56.29 | trepan | isn't going to be all that great, tbh |
| 02:56.41 | trepan | client-side scripting will fix that ... |
| 02:56.54 | trepan | *some text |
| 03:05.17 | trepan | blast007: ah, i see i miscommunicated the part about FontManager/fake textures |
| 03:05.30 | trepan | fake textures to provide your own fonts via download ... |
| 03:17.35 | corndawg | wait.. linking 2+ servers together for game play? |
| 03:18.20 | delusional | sometime in the future |
| 03:18.35 | corndawg | now thatd be fun |
| 03:18.36 | delusional | not available with bzfs 2.0.12 |
| 03:18.47 | corndawg | altho, the maps would prolly need to be much bigge |
| 03:18.49 | corndawg | bigger |
| 03:19.05 | corndawg | 50+ users on 1 network... dang thatd be hellish |
| 03:19.33 | delusional | no, we regularly have that many on the mofo machine |
| 03:19.59 | delusional | and it consumes only a portion of available bandwidth |
| 03:20.38 | delusional | he's talking about a lobby... a no-shooting server that teleports you into other servers |
| 03:21.00 | blast007 | delusional: technically doesn't need to be a lobby even |
| 03:21.02 | spldart | I brainstormed that possiblity up not but a couple 3 years ago ;) |
| 03:21.03 | blast007 | that's just one use for it |
| 03:21.18 | delusional | i know |
| 03:21.19 | TD-Linux | fake textures = any downloadable file, right? |
| 03:21.24 | spldart | IB that idea has been floating around even longer |
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| 03:24.19 | trepan | it's been around for many years ... ideas are cheap ;-) |
| 03:24.48 | trepan | now implementing them, that's the trick |
| 03:25.13 | trepan | TD-Linux: ya |
| 03:31.26 | spldart | pwnt |
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| 03:53.45 | spldart | reminisces to the days of overlord, babylon, pillbox and others.... And then imagines all accessed by a common lobby.... or having all connected by Stargate Wormholes ;-P .. or something :~) |
| 03:59.33 | TD-Linux | build a paintball field based on overlord |
| 04:01.47 | spldart | I can almost imagine that... |
| 04:02.11 | spldart | Perhaps laser based.. or a really small world with realy fast shots |
| 04:05.38 | spldart | .. reduce the height of the forts. add little walls to hide behind. Make gaps so tanks run from cover to cover.. And a few covers in the field between castles. hrm |
| 04:06.24 | spldart | of course no SW or GM n'stuff. Shield and Fast shot would pwn |
| 04:07.06 | spldart | .. keep st and cl |
| 04:09.22 | spldart | Sry for the ramble.. I'm thinking I need to get my brain off this custom kernel building crap. I kinda got hung up on that stuff again.. A new map might be a good distraction. hrm |
| 04:12.20 | corndawg | hum tele links go from front to back or what |
| 04:12.21 | corndawg | ? |
| 04:12.27 | corndawg | or front to front |
| 04:12.32 | corndawg | etc |
| 04:20.14 | BulletCatcher | You must specify front or back in your link definition using :f or :b. |
| 04:21.13 | corndawg | yea done that |
| 04:21.25 | corndawg | but going through the teleporter.. you just wind up on the other side |
| 04:21.32 | corndawg | just like driving through it |
| 04:23.48 | BulletCatcher | If you'll paste your teleporter and link definition to the site below I'll look at it. |
| 04:23.52 | BulletCatcher | ~bzpastebin |
| 04:23.52 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, bzpastebin is http://pastebin.bzflag.bz or a place to put large chunks of text so as not to flood a channel |
| 04:24.35 | BulletCatcher | Just paste the URL with your page here. |
| 04:24.50 | corndawg | k one sec |
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| 04:26.13 | corndawg | there ya go BulletCatcher links are at the bottom |
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| 04:28.05 | BulletCatcher | You need to give your teleporters unique names. |
| 04:28.27 | corndawg | thats whats gong on? |
| 04:28.59 | BulletCatcher | Then in the link definition you say something like "from tele1:f". |
| 04:29.50 | corndawg | k |
| 04:32.34 | BulletCatcher | The bzw man page has a correct example. |
| 04:32.57 | BulletCatcher | See http://linux.die.net/man/5/bzw for instance. |
| 04:33.44 | corndawg | ohhh ok sweet : |
| 04:33.46 | corndawg | :) |
| 04:33.49 | corndawg | thanks BulletCatcher |
| 04:34.47 | BulletCatcher | The BZFlag wiki has pages on bzw syntax too, but in this case it isn't as helpful as the man page. |
| 04:35.00 | corndawg | yea |
| 04:35.11 | corndawg | ive been studying the bz wiki page real closse |
| 04:35.19 | corndawg | teleporters doesnt give much help tho |
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| 06:33.45 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/bzWorldText.jpg |
| 06:34.21 | trepan | going to change it to use MeshTransform (for oblique, etc...) |
| 06:34.57 | trepan | note that different fonts can be used, and that BZDB variables can be used as text sources |
| 06:39.05 | trepan | (used lua's BZ.DB.SetString() call for the 'Text in the Sky', -setforced doesn't take spaces) |
| 06:41.45 | trepan | my bad, -setforced does work with spaces (from the command line), but doesn't in a map's options block |
| 06:52.29 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/bzWorldText2.jpg -- FontManager spacing issue? (text = '\027[34mHello\027[31mBZFlag\027[35mText') |
| 06:56.11 | trepan | probably ... the text is also specified as centered, looks like fontmanager does centering by ansicode block |
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| 10:23.14 | bz35 | Hi All. |
| 10:23.38 | bz35 | If there is any Badgerking Admins around, we could use one. Sk3le is on again. |
| 10:24.19 | bz35 | But yeah soo umm.. |
| 10:24.21 | bz35 | Okey! |
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| 19:45.45 | Winny | JeffM: shirts arrived |
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| 20:17.33 | Tupone | ~seen brlcad |
| 20:17.36 | ibot | brlcad is currently on #bzflag #brlcad ##kierra. Has said a total of 36 messages. Is idling for 22h 22m 21s, last said: 'can probably go even farther with the comgeom/burst bits'. |
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| 20:49.56 | JeffM | Winny, cool |
| 20:59.00 | Winny | blinks http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=13395 ... last post makes no sense |
| 20:59.03 | Winny | unless I'm missing something |
| 21:02.15 | Cobra_Fast | lag compensator |
| 21:02.18 | Cobra_Fast | i heard about |
| 21:02.27 | Cobra_Fast | but dont know anything than the name |
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| 21:09.57 | me1 | Winny, iirc, some devs are working on lag compensation code for 3.0. |
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| 22:01.49 | brlcad | ahh |
| 22:02.21 | brlcad | missed him by --{that}-- much |
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| 22:08.14 | SportChick | brlcad: all moved in? |
| 22:08.21 | corndawg | hum these escalators.. are you spossed to jump all the way up? |
| 22:11.29 | delusional | it's more of a bounce |
| 22:11.45 | corndawg | yea |
| 22:11.53 | delusional | the best escalators ever were in "river" by JPA |
| 22:11.58 | corndawg | actually jumping up em seems to work best |
| 22:14.40 | brlcad | SportChick: yep! |
| 22:14.49 | brlcad | now busy unpacking and still shopping for stuff |
| 22:19.26 | SportChick | brlcad: nice :) we are due to close tomorrow it seems - ahead of schedule instead of late, like they originally anticipated |
| 22:21.41 | brlcad | I know! congratulations |
| 22:26.02 | corndawg | lol thanks delusional :) |
| 22:26.22 | corndawg | <-- is an irc admin on another network, but i wasnt aware that here you had to register a nick first |
| 22:26.46 | delusional | <PROTECTED> |
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