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01:27.52trepanadded custom world embedding  (custom blocks can return a string to be inserted into the world file)
01:35.36CIA-39BZFlag: 03trepan * r18943 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/BZWReader.cxx):
01:35.36CIA-39BZFlag: * added the 'newData' member to bz_CustomMapObjectInfo so that calls to
01:35.36CIA-39BZFlag:  bz_CustomMapObjectHandler's can return text to be embedded into the world file
01:37.58TD-Linuxwhoa
01:38.02TD-Linuxcustom map object ?
01:38.16TD-Linuxooh I see
01:38.57TD-Linuxfor semi-randomly-generated maps I assume
01:39.58trepanprobably -- any kind of autogen map
01:40.14trepannot as cool as embedded scripts, but might still be useful  ;-)
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22:34.10CIA-39BZFlag: 03trepan * r18944 10/trunk/bzflag/misc/lua_localizer.lua: * added more BZ environment tables
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23:15.14RatOmeterso, observers affect the tally and votes required /polls ?
23:15.23RatOmeter*in* /polls
23:16.51RatOmeterjust witnessed a cheater who brought around 10-15 "obsververs" in with him and apparently they skewed the vote req't so badly we couldn't get a pollban through
23:16.51JeffMthat is the core problem with polls
23:16.54JeffMthey could have brought them in as players
23:17.20JeffMany trust system has that problem when do majority trust
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23:20.29blast007JeffM: making it only count people who can vote would help though
23:20.48blast007none of them were registered/authed
23:21.24JeffMyeah
23:21.29JeffMthat adds a condition for trust
23:22.08JeffMdidn't we change that for trunk?
23:22.26blast007maybe
23:24.42JeffMor maybe we added a vote perm
23:24.49JeffMthen you can give that perm just to reged
23:24.55JeffMthat'd be more flexable
23:25.09JeffMor we had that and only count the votiers
23:25.14blast007I think that's how it works in 2.0.x too
23:25.19JeffMremembers making a change, but not what it was
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23:32.11RatOmeterhow do the abstainers weigh in the equation?
23:33.05JeffMdunno, go look at how it's done
23:34.13me1it /seems/ as though abstainers are  treated as automatic "no"s instead of being discarded in 2.0.x
23:38.17JeffMcheck trunk
23:38.21JeffMthat's all that maters
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23:49.37joevanoRatOmeter: that is a common tactic of Sk3letr0n
23:50.04blast007joevano: actually, I think it was coogle
23:50.31joevanoah him too, they both do it but I haven't "seen" coogle in a while
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23:55.18JeffMis there an API hook for polls and votes?
23:55.25JeffMthen it could be overriden
23:55.37JeffMElectoralColige.dll :)
23:55.53blast007heh
23:56.34blast007then there would be hanging chads, and they'd have to recount for a month
23:56.55TD-Linuxbetter add support for parties
23:58.41a_meteoriteflorida electronic voting machines are a must have
23:58.55BulletCatcherNo, those are closed-source.
23:59.08blast007yeah, trunk checks for people who have the poll permission
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23:59.11a_meteoritevote count deviations are directly proportional to party popularity
23:59.13blast007<PROTECTED>
23:59.42JeffMhow does trunk treat abstainers?
23:59.46JeffMno makes some sense

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