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00:45.37CBGI would imagine a Zune looks much better when it's smoking.
01:01.36blast007only if it's next to a iPod that's on fire after being smashed with a hammer
01:28.09Think_Differentlif rockbox was ported to the zune, i'd buy one.
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01:35.50ryanakcaI'm guessing there's nothing to do about people using cheat clients on public servers until the server admin shows up?
01:40.29JeffM2501it's up to the owner to decide what they want to do, so not really
01:40.33JeffM2501pollban if it's enabled
01:41.27ryanakcaJeffM2501: isn't, sadly :/
01:41.37ryanakcathanks
01:41.49JeffM2501then it is a poorly run server, simply play elsewhere
01:41.55JeffM2501there are LOTS of servers :)
01:43.09spldartUhm... Wow... getting 3d set up properly in lenny is proving way more difficult than just doing a complete build of trunk in lenny :( I was only getting 8 to 10 fps with my last nights build. Was wondering why.
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13:22.10joevanoWhere in the world are our devs? http://www.flickr.com/photos/halostatue/2996087302/sizes/l/in/pool-930035@N21/
13:23.09joevanosee if you can find em..
14:00.06Manujoevano: find wally ;)
14:00.52Manujoevano: I guess found Sean
14:01.20joevanoyeah that one was easy, just look for the guns and the hat ;)
14:01.31Manuhehe true :)
14:01.44Manujoevano: and the arms ;)
14:04.00Manujoevano: is JeffM the one in the right?
14:05.42joevanoim not sure
14:06.14Manulooks him after eat some bzflag player ;)
14:08.12joevanohehe.. ive only seen him with a beard
14:08.29joevanocould be
14:09.32joevanoDTRemenak was there too, i think.. but I don't see him
14:10.32joevanocould possibly be front row 2nd from left, but no glasses
14:30.41Manujoevano: or two left 1 up from Sean
14:31.42joevanoah, maybe
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14:32.05brlcadburps
14:32.16Manu~wake brad
14:32.16ibotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on brad and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
14:32.38Manuerrrrr
14:32.38Manu~wake brlcad
14:32.39ibotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on brlcad and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
14:32.46Manusilly autocompletion :/
14:34.48brlcadbrad deserved it
14:35.04Manutrue
14:35.09brlcaddtr is easy.. jeff's the hard one to find
14:35.38Manubrlcad: isn't Jeff the one in the right of the pic? (after eat a bzflag player) ;)
14:35.49Manuor the one close to you?
14:35.56brlcadheh
14:36.14Manuto find JeffM.. look for the beer
14:36.46Manubrlcad: I see there is one older than me in the pic ;)
14:37.27brlcadjeff is not near me
14:37.44Manubrlcad: so the one in the right of the pic?
14:38.07brlcadheh, nope
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14:38.36brlcadhe's really hard to find actually
14:39.00Manuonly shows the head?
14:39.17brlcadsorta
14:40.19Manubrlcad: in the upper row?
14:40.23brlcadbtw, that's not a picture of everyone -- there were plenty of others that didn't make the trip
14:40.38brlcadwe had to walk across the facility to get to the Android statue
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14:42.08brlcadpretty easy to find JBdiGriz
14:42.26brlcadthe group photo before that one is even better though
14:43.50Manudunno if I have ever seen a pic of JBdiGriz
14:44.18Manuprobably I must look for one with kids around him ;)
14:47.42brlcadyou can see everyone better here:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/halostatue/2996026978/sizes/o/in/pool-930035@N21/
14:48.15``Erik_now that's a lot of nerds
14:49.40Manubrlcad: yes, I see jeffm there.. (I guess)
14:52.06Manu``Erik_: no nerds there :-p
14:52.50Manuprobably geeks ;)
14:53.27``Erik_all geeks, but a lot of nerds, ... :D
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15:35.23joevanoDTR was easy to spot in the second pic
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15:36.24joevanomust be jeff right behind him
15:36.43joevanocan still see the big guns in that pic too ;)
15:40.30joevanobrlcad: is that JB to your right?
15:40.59joevanofound a pic of him on SportCicks's web site ;)
15:41.45joevanoSportChick*
15:48.26joevanobzflag was finally mentioned in the dr who podcast that was talked about on the forums a few months ago
15:48.29joevanohttp://brokensea.com/drwho/
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16:26.22blast007joevano: wow, looks like an older version in that screenshot
16:27.08joevanoi thought it looked funny, couldn't put my finger on it
16:27.33TheRedBaronlooks like the 'g' version
16:27.56blast007can't find any of those names on the stats site either
16:28.18TheRedBaronor early 1.10
16:28.23blast007yeah
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16:35.18brlcadheh
16:35.26brlcad"we cannot fire where it is, only where it was"
16:40.01TheRedBaronI like the new ./configure output
16:40.06TheRedBaronfor 2.99
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17:02.43TheRedBaronbtw - configure reports this error: http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m373913d7
17:04.44TheRedBaronits that because i ran --disable-client ?
17:08.00brlcadthe first line doesn't have anything to do with the following lines
17:09.15TheRedBaronyea.  that I know.  I didn't mean to copy that line
17:09.52TheRedBaronthe reason why I asked about --disable-client, is I'm not sure if i even have x11 on this machine.  Its a server with no video card.
17:10.56TheRedBaronand there is these warnings from 'make': http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m67d2fa8c
17:16.35brlcadTheRedBaron: is that head or branch?
17:16.56brlcadbecause the line numbers don't seem to match up on head, and I don't care about branch :)
17:17.53brlcadactually it adds up but implies that htonl is a macro on your system
17:18.30TheRedBaronbrlcad: its head
17:18.44TheRedBaronjust checked out revision 18900
17:18.50brlcadk, yeah -- doesn't seem important
17:19.34TheRedBaronok.  I was just following instructions.  ./configure told me to report it :)
17:27.17Manushadowed declarations :)
17:29.46CIA-38BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r18901 10/trunk/bzflag/configure.ac: include header dependency when checking for xf86vm
17:29.48DTRemenakTheRedBaron: that should take care of the configure warning
17:56.47KTLManu, do you have any news about that kernel issue that hangs my input to bzflag?
17:56.54KTLi did not downgrade
17:57.14KTL(and am getting extremely pissed with my handicap)
17:59.59KTL(i can play with a broken hand, i cant play with a broken kernel)
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18:08.04KTLis going to try it all: killing all processes that possibly could interfere, removing kernel modules, recompiling kernel (if i figure out what of it can be changed)
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18:13.08brlcadwee, http://www.flickr.com/photos/36383814@N00/2989996039/sizes/o/in/pool-930035@N21/
18:13.56MindstormsKidwho are those people? O_o
18:14.58Greywhindhey look - it's me, upside-down
18:16.07MindstormsKidO_O
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18:31.18JeffMI look sad
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18:33.11GreywhindJeffM: but at least you don't look upside-down :P
18:33.28JeffMGreywhind, yeah but the rotatate function can fix that for you
18:33.41Greywhindvery true
18:36.38MindstormsKidwonders which one JeffM is
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18:37.48joevanoMindstormsKid: he is one of them between DTR and brlcad ;)
18:38.16MindstormsKid>_>
18:38.27joevanoah, that pic makes me sick
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18:38.48joevanoMindstormsKid: cancel that comment it was meant for the prvious pic
18:39.01*** topic/#bzflag by Erroneous -> Topic for #bzflag is: http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || this channel is logged at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || 2.0.12 is the latest linux release, 2.0.10 for others
18:39.05JeffMI'm not actualy near brlcad in that one
18:40.35JeffMdtr is way in the back
18:40.51Erroneoushiding from the camera, as usual ;)
18:40.59joevanoyour opposite brl correct
18:41.13JeffMsomewhat
18:42.20joevanoah.. there you are DTR
18:43.34BulletCatcherHow was the camera supported?
18:43.47MindstormsKid:D
18:43.56joevanoits a new google hoover camera.. shh
18:44.01MindstormsKidXD
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18:44.38ManuKTL: kernel issue?
18:44.52Manuwhat kernel?
18:45.11KTLthat the games doesnt get my input on time sometimes, i dont jump or i jump later, that kind of things
18:45.26KTL2.6.26 with vserver patches
18:45.59ManuI tried 2.6.26 and use actually 2.6.27 and didn't experienced any issues
18:46.10Manubut not vserver patch I guess
18:46.32KTLi did closed the xserver, only ran one for bzflag now, with nice -4, stopped several services, ... and i didnt have it again
18:46.40ManuKTL: I use kvm ;)
18:47.09KTLbut i could be mistaken, next time i will do a /etc/init.d/ virtualbox-ose en vmware stop
18:47.37KTLManu, i just went to virtual box coming from vmware :)
18:47.56ManuI use both, virtualbox and kvm
18:48.08KTLand didnt you need a patched kernel for that?
18:48.08Manubut kvm is handy to test things ;)
18:48.15Manunope
18:48.17blast007KTL: have you tried a kernel that doesn't have anything for virtualization in it?  ;)
18:48.32ManuKTL: I don't need any patch to run it
18:48.56Manublast007: :)
18:49.11KTLmmm ...it's a bit messy to get nvidia to work everytime :)
18:49.23Manupoints KTL to occam's razor ;)
18:49.40ManuKTL: I use it with both, nvidia and ati
18:50.44TheRedBaronshaves Manu with occam's razor
18:50.53KTLpffff it's just mindbreaking, i want to shoot ... no bullets i keep on rotating ... rotate against a wall bang bullet came
18:51.24ManuKTL: the only problem with KVM is you need a cpu with virtualization featura to get high perfomance ;)
18:51.33Manufeature*
18:52.05Manuvirtualbox performs better in a normal cpu
18:52.54KTLbtw ... i saw lots of patches for bzflag the last days
18:52.57ManuTheRedBaron: too late I was just saved ;)
18:53.00KTLis a release coming?
18:53.06ManuTheRedBaron: shaved*
18:53.21ManuKTL: good question ;)
18:53.35ManuKTL: there is a difference between coming and coming soon ;)
18:53.40blast007hehe
18:53.41Manuso yes, it's coming :-p
18:54.19blast007It's going to be coined the 'Ragnarok Release'
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20:48.57JeffMis somehow amazed at how cool simple layer effects can look :)
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21:08.58blast007error I'm getting from building trunk: http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m1b9def12
21:10.03JeffMblast007, linux is never done.
21:10.07JeffMit's never sleeps
21:10.10JeffMalways watching
21:10.13JeffMjudging
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22:01.07blast007JeffM: I just like how it's trying to run 'Done.' as a command  ;)
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22:10.42blast007bah, and I didn't set up my port forwarding right, so I can get to that system  :(
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