| 00:00.15 | JeffM | the bzflag client is not a content management system ;) |
| 00:00.48 | *** join/#bzflag chaoscon (i=jeremy@smartserv/ceo/chaoscon) |
| 00:00.58 | AAA_awright | Does BZFlag send referrer header information with the images it downloads? _Technically_ it should be sending "Referrer: server:port" or something. |
| 00:01.16 | JeffM | probably whatever curl sends |
| 00:01.28 | AAA_awright | cURL won't send it unless you tell it to, so no then |
| 00:01.31 | JeffM | curl does not know the server address |
| 00:01.33 | JeffM | so no |
| 00:01.52 | JeffM | it's NOT an HTTP redirect |
| 00:02.03 | JeffM | it's like you typing in the URL to a browser |
| 00:02.34 | AAA_awright | I see it like loading an image on a web page, the browser sends the url of the page loaded in the Referrer header |
| 00:02.43 | JeffM | then you see it wrong |
| 00:02.59 | *** join/#bzflag BulletCatcher (n=bc@unaffiliated/bulletcatcher) |
| 00:03.01 | JeffM | because maps arn't HTML, and bzflag is not a browser ;) |
| 00:03.15 | JeffM | the inital request dosn't come from something else in curl |
| 00:03.18 | JeffM | it comes from external |
| 00:03.26 | AAA_awright | I was going to say, I wonder how Referrer applies to non-http |
| 00:03.47 | JeffM | it would only apply if you were staying in the same browser context |
| 00:03.58 | JeffM | the concept breaks when you out outside of that |
| 00:04.32 | Mets | quick question - how do I clear a configure? I ran ./configure --various-options on branch, but it keeps looping over and over again with a different set of arguments from when I ran it earlier |
| 00:04.50 | JeffM | Mets, run autogen |
| 00:04.56 | Mets | k |
| 00:04.57 | JeffM | that will remake config again |
| 00:05.10 | Mets | was gonna try that next :) ty |
| 00:05.27 | AAA_awright | "The Referer[sic] request-header field allows the client to specify, for the server's benefit, the address (URI) of the resource from which the Request-URI was obtained" So we are perfectly allowed to send a bzflag:// URI to the server when getting the image |
| 00:05.40 | BulletCatcher | Mets: "make distclean" ought to do it |
| 00:05.42 | AAA_awright | But it isn't a requirement. |
| 00:05.43 | JeffM | allowed sure, but we don't |
| 00:05.56 | JeffM | we are not content managers, that is not our job |
| 00:06.06 | JeffM | it's a VIDEO GAME |
| 00:06.19 | AAA_awright | A web browser isn't a content manager either |
| 00:06.24 | AAA_awright | By itself :p |
| 00:06.29 | JeffM | indeed |
| 00:06.40 | JeffM | thats why I said, we not bzflag ;) |
| 00:06.47 | JeffM | as a project we are not content managers |
| 00:09.28 | AAA_awright | And it is not like this is something that concerns most server owners, as it isn't their server the images are being requested from, so there isn't much use. There might be a useful purpose for the Referer in the future though |
| 00:09.36 | JeffM | L4m3r, you here? |
| 00:10.30 | JeffM | yay, all domain owners e-mailed :) |
| 00:14.08 | JeffM | I put the end date on user .orgs at july 7th |
| 00:14.13 | JeffM | so over a month away |
| 00:15.03 | menotume | JeffM yes ! |
| 00:17.15 | bryjen | makes with the de-.org-ing |
| 00:24.51 | bryjen | bryjen.bzflag.com also points to my server's ip address |
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| 00:34.34 | Winny | uhoh, Duken Nuken is getting closer:P http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53010 |
| 00:37.01 | spldart | Yay!!!!!! |
| 00:39.42 | JeffM | bryjen, yeah the .com will go too |
| 00:39.48 | JeffM | menotume, it's going to move to .net |
| 00:39.55 | JeffM | so you'll need to mod your configs. |
| 00:40.07 | JeffM | I sent you an e-mail on it |
| 00:50.07 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17387 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/win32/VC8/bzadmin.vcproj: we don't build curses so don't link with it. |
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| 01:36.12 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17388 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: |
| 01:36.12 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: Fix reversed exit logic on bufferedChat background task |
| 01:36.12 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: /viewreports works again. |
| 01:36.34 | JeffM | donkey shine :) |
| 01:36.56 | Thumper_ | ? |
| 01:37.00 | JeffM | thanks |
| 01:37.05 | Thumper_ | wlcm :) |
| 01:37.19 | Thumper_ | oi that's bad :) |
| 01:37.59 | Thumper_ | assuming it was a real bad rendition of German or something |
| 01:38.37 | Thumper_ | learned something today - we have a background task manager? cool :) |
| 01:39.34 | JeffM | heh |
| 01:39.35 | JeffM | we do |
| 01:39.51 | JeffM | it screams to be threaded |
| 01:40.14 | Thumper_ | yeah not that that will help much on my stinky single core |
| 01:40.27 | JeffM | actualy it would |
| 01:40.36 | JeffM | cus it would run while we sleep inbetween loops |
| 01:40.49 | JeffM | threading is used for more then just multi core ;) |
| 01:41.01 | Thumper_ | pThreads or something else? |
| 01:41.35 | JeffM | mixture dependin on oS |
| 01:41.48 | JeffM | tho there is more to it then just how the thread is done |
| 01:42.02 | JeffM | any tasks that would need to read from server data wold have to change. |
| 01:42.14 | JeffM | the current 2 are good cus they make a copy of the data |
| 01:43.56 | Thumper_ | I'm going to dig around in the existing stuff some first before I think about gutting things... |
| 01:44.08 | Thumper_ | I haven't spent enough time in the codebase yet |
| 01:44.23 | JeffM | it's ok to wait on it |
| 01:44.32 | Thumper_ | I've noticed :) |
| 01:44.35 | JeffM | there are better places to work on then threading reports ;) |
| 01:44.45 | Thumper_ | tis true |
| 01:45.06 | Thumper_ | rebuilds his daily build server early to see if the webReport and webStatus plugins work now... |
| 01:45.21 | JeffM | they should not be based off that task |
| 01:45.28 | JeffM | they do there own thing with the data |
| 01:45.41 | Thumper_ | so they'll be next to fix |
| 01:45.49 | JeffM | or finish |
| 01:45.52 | JeffM | I never tested them ;) |
| 01:45.53 | Thumper_ | I started with webReports not working -> /viewreports |
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| 01:46.00 | Thumper_ | and it printed the first line and quit |
| 01:46.09 | JeffM | like crashed? |
| 01:46.14 | JeffM | or just didn't do anything else? |
| 01:46.33 | Thumper_ | no just prints 1 line and stops because the logic on when to exit was backwards (for /viewreports) |
| 01:46.43 | JeffM | ahh |
| 01:46.44 | Thumper_ | webreports comes back with nothing |
| 01:46.46 | JeffM | what about webreports |
| 01:46.46 | Thumper_ | right away |
| 01:46.48 | JeffM | hmmm |
| 01:46.53 | Thumper_ | and webStatus just goes away |
| 01:46.53 | JeffM | do you have templates? |
| 01:47.01 | JeffM | they need files now |
| 01:47.04 | Thumper_ | templates? |
| 01:47.08 | JeffM | templates ;) |
| 01:47.22 | JeffM | in the dir for each one is the templates it needs |
| 01:47.35 | JeffM | by default it look look for them in ./ |
| 01:47.39 | Thumper_ | ok - webstats used to work |
| 01:47.50 | JeffM | yeah I rewrote them to use templates |
| 01:47.54 | Thumper_ | but if templates was added after that I haven't touched it since we initially loaded it ages ago |
| 01:48.00 | Thumper_ | ok then that's probably the issue |
| 01:48.09 | JeffM | both of those got updated with the template system |
| 01:48.15 | Thumper_ | I'm trying to get to the point where I can test the patch I did a few days ago |
| 01:48.22 | Thumper_ | and these plugins supposedly use it... |
| 01:48.25 | JeffM | you can add a path to search after loadplugin |
| 01:48.35 | JeffM | use what? |
| 01:49.10 | Thumper_ | looks |
| 01:50.11 | Thumper_ | commit 17357 - last hunk on the Templateiser::keyCallback |
| 01:50.24 | Thumper_ | if key == "pagetime" |
| 01:50.28 | Thumper_ | - data = format("%.3d",bz_getCurrentTime()-startTime); |
| 01:50.28 | Thumper_ | + data = format("%.3f",bz_getCurrentTime()-startTime); |
| 01:50.42 | JeffM | what did you cahnge in the time? |
| 01:50.46 | Thumper_ | you had a format for int but provided float as the param |
| 01:50.50 | Thumper_ | 3d to 3f |
| 01:50.52 | JeffM | ahh |
| 01:50.55 | Thumper_ | but maybe it should be 3d |
| 01:51.08 | Thumper_ | and (int)(bz_getCurrentTime()...) |
| 01:51.16 | JeffM | naw |
| 01:51.19 | JeffM | f is right |
| 01:51.28 | JeffM | but that should not kill it I don't think |
| 01:51.35 | JeffM | just mistformat the value |
| 01:51.48 | Thumper_ | I made all the plugins inherit the debug build from configure and tons of plugins started bitching - so I fixed the compiler warnings |
| 01:51.53 | Thumper_ | but wasn't sure about this one |
| 01:52.16 | Thumper_ | so I was trying to execute the codepath ... and haven't got that far yet :) |
| 01:52.19 | Thumper_ | is slow :/ |
| 01:52.36 | Thumper_ | I need to upgrade my rig... these 13 minute compiles are killing me |
| 01:52.47 | JeffM | 3.5 min on my quadcore |
| 01:52.58 | Thumper_ | nice |
| 01:53.02 | JeffM | IN vista |
| 01:53.05 | Thumper_ | eww |
| 01:53.07 | Thumper_ | !! |
| 01:53.08 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 01:54.54 | Thumper_ | digs around in the template stuff |
| 01:55.13 | JeffM | I tested it with no reports or players and it did generate pages |
| 01:55.21 | JeffM | it did have it's template files tho |
| 01:55.30 | Thumper_ | it probably shouldn't hang if no template is provided |
| 01:55.32 | JeffM | so I know the template system itself generaly works |
| 01:55.34 | Thumper_ | puts that on the list of things to fix |
| 01:55.44 | JeffM | well it's probalby just returning a blank page |
| 01:55.53 | JeffM | what one are you running |
| 01:55.55 | Thumper_ | the browser waits forever |
| 01:56.01 | JeffM | one of them has a detault template the other dosn't |
| 01:56.03 | Thumper_ | webstats |
| 01:56.16 | Thumper_ | webreport returns 'nothing' |
| 01:56.27 | Thumper_ | but webstats doens't return to teh browser so it spins waiting forever |
| 01:56.28 | JeffM | hmm |
| 01:56.54 | JeffM | I wonder if the team sort is failing |
| 01:57.30 | Thumper_ | http://bzflag3.norang.ca:10000/ (with no templates yet) |
| 01:57.59 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17389 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/webstats.cpp: cheap error if the template load fails |
| 01:59.11 | JeffM | there are no players on that server? |
| 01:59.18 | Thumper_ | not now |
| 01:59.20 | JeffM | k |
| 01:59.28 | JeffM | then that should be the same as my test cases |
| 01:59.52 | Thumper_ | I'mthere now |
| 01:59.58 | JeffM | I'll look at it more when I get home |
| 02:00.08 | JeffM | set a breakpoint in getURLData and see where it goes. |
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| 02:32.45 | menotume | JeffM: What would I have to change ? |
| 02:32.57 | menotume | other than links TO the league site |
| 02:33.11 | JeffM | menotume: any servers running on it |
| 02:33.16 | JeffM | and any internal links |
| 02:33.27 | menotume | servers running on it ? |
| 02:33.29 | menotume | ohh |
| 02:33.35 | menotume | no, it's just the league website |
| 02:33.53 | menotume | and, shouldn't be any internal links, i'll check though |
| 02:34.41 | menotume | ya, a couple/few |
| 02:34.47 | menotume | will the rootdir change ? |
| 02:34.48 | JeffM | :) |
| 02:34.52 | menotume | note the domain name in the path |
| 02:35.06 | JeffM | nothing on your webserver will change |
| 02:35.24 | menotume | okies |
| 02:35.38 | JeffM | since your web service is not the same as the DNS |
| 02:35.44 | JeffM | and all we are changing is the DNS |
| 02:35.56 | JeffM | just to remove your .org name |
| 02:36.08 | menotume | so, just to cause trouble, huh ? |
| 02:36.17 | menotume | well, alrighty then :P |
| 02:36.34 | JeffM | but also the links to the match servers will change |
| 02:36.48 | JeffM | dub.bzflag.org ducati.bzflag org, tlz.bzflag.org |
| 02:36.58 | JeffM | all those will change as well |
| 02:38.09 | menotume | oh geez |
| 02:38.31 | JeffM | basicly if it's not an official org web service, it moves to .net |
| 02:39.01 | JeffM | so what stays is stuff like my.bzflag.org www.bzflag.org db.bzflag.org, etc.. |
| 02:39.20 | JeffM | but I left over a month for transitions |
| 02:39.21 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17390 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webReport/webReport.cpp: paramaters -> parameters and lots of whitespace |
| 02:39.33 | JeffM | Thumper_: find anything? |
| 02:40.21 | Thumper_ | haven't done it yet - no password on that server and now sure how the login thing is supposed to work - still looking at the code |
| 02:40.29 | JeffM | ahh |
| 02:40.32 | JeffM | then login won't work |
| 02:40.36 | Thumper_ | atleast it doesn't hang anymore withyour latest missing template fix |
| 02:40.40 | JeffM | for webreport that is |
| 02:40.51 | JeffM | webstats dosn't do a login |
| 02:40.54 | Thumper_ | stats reports the login thing I think |
| 02:41.04 | JeffM | stats should not |
| 02:41.06 | JeffM | reports does |
| 02:41.09 | JeffM | builds |
| 02:41.19 | Thumper_ | http://bzflag3.norang.ca:10000/webstats/ |
| 02:41.31 | JeffM | hmmm |
| 02:41.43 | Thumper_ | what password you would like :) |
| 02:41.53 | JeffM | ummm.. why does it say webreport at the bottom |
| 02:41.57 | JeffM | something else isn't right |
| 02:42.01 | JeffM | stats is being routed to report |
| 02:42.09 | Thumper_ | I have both of them loaded |
| 02:42.10 | JeffM | what happens if you JUST load webstats |
| 02:42.14 | JeffM | not both |
| 02:42.16 | Thumper_ | restarts |
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| 02:42.42 | Thumper_ | waits 20s... zzzzzzz |
| 02:43.05 | Thumper_ | same |
| 02:43.26 | JeffM | wtf... |
| 02:43.36 | JeffM | ok, I'm building up my own cus that dosn't make sense |
| 02:44.17 | Thumper_ | logs into make sure it's not loaded... |
| 02:44.32 | JeffM | how many does the index page show? |
| 02:44.42 | Thumper_ | blows his password for the 3rd time... |
| 02:44.54 | Thumper_ | fastmap is also there |
| 02:45.18 | Thumper_ | just webstats |
| 02:45.23 | Thumper_ | http://bzflag3.norang.ca:10000/ |
| 02:45.36 | Thumper_ | is confused |
| 02:45.39 | JeffM | ok something is wacky then |
| 02:46.07 | Thumper_ | webstats has the wrong template |
| 02:46.12 | Thumper_ | webstats.cpp: if (!templateSystem.processTemplateFile(page,"report.tmpl")) |
| 02:46.18 | JeffM | ahhh |
| 02:46.34 | JeffM | copy and paste error :) |
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| 02:46.49 | JeffM | I wrote report first then copied the code to stats |
| 02:47.32 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17391 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/webstats.cpp: Use the right template - fix copy & paste error |
| 02:50.23 | JeffM | wonder if I need a larger pagefile |
| 02:54.15 | Thumper_ | Better... but buggy http://bzflag3.norang.ca:10000/webstats/ |
| 02:54.31 | Thumper_ | oops reload crashed the server |
| 02:55.49 | blast007 | there's a stray ; at the end of the doctype |
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| 02:59.03 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17392 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/webstats.cpp: use a very lame default template if one is not provided |
| 02:59.24 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17393 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/templates/stats.tmpl: HTML is not C no need to end lines in ; |
| 02:59.48 | JeffM | blast007: you are more then welcome to make the template cooler ;) |
| 02:59.53 | blast007 | ;) |
| 03:00.05 | JeffM | and tell me what other vars I need |
| 03:00.38 | blast007 | is there looping abilities? |
| 03:00.47 | blast007 | guess I should look at it myself :) |
| 03:01.39 | JeffM | yeah there are |
| 03:01.47 | JeffM | that's how it generates player lists |
| 03:01.57 | JeffM | it has vars, loops and ifs |
| 03:02.29 | blast007 | cool |
| 03:03.42 | Thumper_ | Thanks JeffM - I have to bail. travelling this weekend and on slow dialup :-P so probably won't do anything before Monday night |
| 03:03.49 | JeffM | ok |
| 03:04.01 | BulletCatcher | blast007, don't forget to change BZWTestLauncher -> BZFSLauncher in tools/Makefile.am |
| 03:04.03 | JeffM | I'm setting up a local server and will poke at it |
| 03:04.10 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: meh |
| 03:04.13 | blast007 | stupid makefiles |
| 03:04.19 | BulletCatcher | :-) |
| 03:05.05 | blast007 | should there be a Makefile.am inside the BZWTestLauncher directory too? or is that not needed in *every* directory? |
| 03:05.54 | BulletCatcher | If you need a Makefile in that directory, then there should be a .am file. Otherwise, no. |
| 03:06.02 | blast007 | k |
| 03:06.58 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r17394 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/Makefile.am: s/BZWTestLauncher/BZFSLauncher/ |
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| 03:08.08 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17395 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/templates/stats.tmpl: ServerName was changed to HostName |
| 03:13.12 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17396 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/ (templates/stats.tmpl webstats.cpp): add an boolean for players to make the template able to hide the header for no players. |
| 03:36.08 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17397 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/ (templates/player.tmpl templates/stats.tmpl webstats.cpp): |
| 03:36.08 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: add action option to show stats for a single player |
| 03:36.08 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: add template methods to support single player info page. |
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| 04:50.36 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17398 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/ (README.txt webstats.cpp): |
| 04:50.36 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: add more template items for per player data |
| 04:50.36 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: document the template features items in the readme |
| 04:55.27 | Lukstr | JeffM: I'm beginning to regret not just using VC :P |
| 04:55.35 | JeffM | why? |
| 04:56.18 | Lukstr | I'm now on my *third* computer and *5th* ubuntu install this month |
| 04:56.40 | JeffM | why would your compiler have anything to do with that? |
| 04:59.37 | Lukstr | because then I wouldn't have to do any work, and I could just happily sit in windows :P |
| 04:59.54 | Lukstr | but, success at last! |
| 05:00.27 | Lukstr | it appears I know have a fully working box, capable of playing bzflag at > 4 fps |
| 05:01.18 | JeffM | you mean you could get work done ;) |
| 05:01.22 | Lukstr | yes!!! |
| 05:01.31 | JeffM | so install windows too ;) |
| 05:01.38 | Lukstr | I'm talking to you on windows :P |
| 05:02.08 | Lukstr | oh, so for future reference, the bzflag wiki is under the .net site? |
| 05:02.28 | JeffM | .net site? |
| 05:02.33 | Lukstr | bzflag.net |
| 05:02.39 | JeffM | it's my.bzflag.org |
| 05:02.44 | Lukstr | well, it's both |
| 05:02.48 | JeffM | all the .orgs have .net and .com versions too |
| 05:02.55 | JeffM | they just redirect to .org |
| 05:02.57 | Lukstr | Oh |
| 05:03.05 | Lukstr | but I thought I read earlier you were going to change that? |
| 05:03.14 | blast007 | well, it's not a redirect |
| 05:03.18 | JeffM | no, I'm moving the user .orgs to .net |
| 05:03.21 | blast007 | they just point to the same IP |
| 05:03.26 | Lukstr | ah, alright |
| 05:03.26 | JeffM | blast007: true |
| 05:03.39 | JeffM | all the .orgs will still have .net and .com versions that point to the same IP |
| 05:03.47 | Lukstr | that's good |
| 05:03.51 | Lukstr | just checking |
| 05:03.55 | JeffM | we just want to get players and other non offical thigns OFF of .org |
| 05:03.57 | blast007 | actually it's probably bad ;) |
| 05:04.12 | blast007 | makes a mess of cookies and search engine results |
| 05:04.38 | Lukstr | haha |
| 05:04.44 | Lukstr | it certainly does |
| 05:04.48 | Lukstr | needs more monitors... |
| 05:04.59 | L4m3r | Lukstr: amazing what a difference the OS makes. I installed Vista on my laptop... 10FPS max with everything turned down, where Debian runs it maxed out at a comfortable 50fps or so |
| 05:05.27 | blast007 | L4m3r: did you install real drivers? |
| 05:05.29 | L4m3r | I'm not even gonna try to install GTA:SA on it (it ran well enough under XP) |
| 05:05.35 | L4m3r | blast007: yeah |
| 05:05.39 | blast007 | strange |
| 05:05.49 | Lukstr | L4m3r: no kidding. The problems I've had were: half-melted fanless TNT2, then ATi + Ubuntu love :P |
| 05:05.50 | blast007 | what card? |
| 05:06.02 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17399 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/ (README.txt webstats.cpp): add template features to iterate a player's group list |
| 05:06.02 | L4m3r | my graphics card is weak... mobility radeon X1300 |
| 05:06.04 | Think_Differentl | ooo, ATI + Ubuntu love :E |
| 05:06.16 | L4m3r | ATi + Linux = phail |
| 05:06.18 | blast007 | well there's your problem... ATI |
| 05:06.42 | Think_Differentl | maybe ATI won't exist in a few years :) |
| 05:06.46 | blast007 | my mobile nVidia 7600GT can run half life 2 in vista :P |
| 05:06.49 | L4m3r | I really hope that I don't have similar problems if I try to install Vista on my desktop |
| 05:06.59 | L4m3r | 6600GT in there |
| 05:07.01 | Lukstr | oooh, I just thought of something I aught to try some time this summer: BZFlag + 42" TV |
| 05:07.07 | L4m3r | heh |
| 05:07.16 | L4m3r | I played bzflag on a projector in lab today |
| 05:07.21 | Lukstr | ATi on linux is definitely the suck, but I never planned to install linux on that box |
| 05:07.29 | L4m3r | colors were really washed out, though. couldn't tell red and green apart. |
| 05:07.32 | Lukstr | I got a 42" TV for $300 :P |
| 05:07.51 | blast007 | L4m3r: did it include all the pixels too? or are those extra? ;) |
| 05:08.01 | L4m3r | we actually have a really nice Philips plasma with ambilight and everything in my lab |
| 05:08.12 | blast007 | "we'll even throw in the left speaker at no cost!" |
| 05:08.27 | Think_Differentl | Lukstr, nice deal :E |
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| 05:08.54 | Lukstr | Think_Differentl: well, theoretically I had already bought $900 worth of it last year :P |
| 05:09.06 | Lukstr | my 32" broke, so I got full-in-store-refund a year later |
| 05:09.08 | Lukstr | upgrade! |
| 05:09.26 | L4m3r | lab PC + 802.11g dongle + VPN + SlingPlayer + DVI->HDMI cable + lab TV = Lakers game on TV while we toiled in lab |
| 05:10.35 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17400 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/ (README.txt webstats.cpp): add template features to iterate a player's flag history |
| 05:13.22 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17401 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/ (README.txt webstats.cpp): add template features to iterate a player's lag, jitter, and packetloss |
| 05:14.51 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17402 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/ (README.txt webstats.cpp): add template features to iterate a player's IP address |
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| 05:16.48 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v L4m3r] by ChanServ |
| 05:20.25 | Lukstr | this slightly melted processor is bloody fast |
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| 05:32.40 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17403 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/ (README.txt webstats.cpp): |
| 05:32.40 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: add template features list player's team info |
| 05:32.40 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: add template info for global team info |
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| 05:37.12 | Lukstr | I can't seem to convince ./configure that I have curl, still.... |
| 05:37.29 | Lukstr | --with-libcurl=/... didn't do anything |
| 05:37.46 | Lukstr | using special magic curl? |
| 05:39.05 | blast007 | 2.0.x? |
| 05:39.20 | blast007 | or are you trying to build trunk? |
| 05:39.23 | JeffM | you should be using 2.99x and that comes with curl |
| 05:39.52 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17404 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/ (README.txt webstats.cpp): add template features to list game types |
| 05:40.01 | Lukstr | trunk |
| 05:40.09 | Lukstr | so just let it build curl? |
| 05:40.11 | JeffM | trunk will build curl if you don't have it |
| 05:40.14 | JeffM | yeah sure |
| 05:40.15 | JeffM | why not? |
| 05:40.18 | Lukstr | I do have it though |
| 05:40.24 | Lukstr | well the less building :P |
| 05:40.27 | JeffM | not one it can detect |
| 05:40.35 | blast007 | do you have the dev packages for curl? or just the runtime? |
| 05:40.37 | JeffM | it'll build it once, whopty do? |
| 05:40.41 | Lukstr | dev |
| 05:40.47 | blast007 | oh well |
| 05:40.53 | blast007 | it's not like it's a lot of compiling |
| 05:40.56 | blast007 | install ccache :P |
| 05:41.02 | Lukstr | already installed |
| 05:41.08 | JeffM | then it'll build it once |
| 05:41.15 | JeffM | we do incremental builds anyway |
| 05:41.16 | blast007 | it's a tiny part of the build |
| 05:41.19 | JeffM | so it's not like it'll change |
| 05:41.24 | Lukstr | yeah I figured as much |
| 05:42.07 | Lukstr | Well |
| 05:42.12 | Lukstr | apparently |
| 05:42.26 | Lukstr | ldap.c: In function `Curl_ldap': |
| 05:42.29 | Lukstr | many errors :P |
| 05:42.40 | blast007 | ~bzpastebin |
| 05:42.41 | ibot | rumour has it, bzpastebin is http://pastebin.bzflag.bz or a place to put large chunks of text so as not to flood a channel |
| 05:42.50 | Lukstr | enroute |
| 05:47.13 | Lukstr | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d4484c7b5 |
| 05:48.54 | Constitution | hm, if I can get the server list in a web browser, I should be able to get it in the game client, right? |
| 06:00.01 | Lukstr | well |
| 06:00.03 | Lukstr | that was bizarre. |
| 06:00.13 | Lukstr | I removed my curl package |
| 06:00.28 | Lukstr | and now configure found my c-ares |
| 06:01.04 | Lukstr | and looks like it's building alright now |
| 06:03.21 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17405 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): add the flag ID to the player record so we can get info on it. |
| 06:05.47 | blast007 | Lukstr: hmm |
| 06:05.57 | Lukstr | okay now it's breaking somewhere else |
| 06:05.59 | blast007 | works fine with the version of libcurl I have installed |
| 06:06.21 | blast007 | did your build system work before? |
| 06:06.45 | Lukstr | not since this install |
| 06:06.49 | Lukstr | I did nothing different imo |
| 06:06.51 | blast007 | what OS? |
| 06:07.03 | Lukstr | s/imo/afaik/ |
| 06:07.04 | Lukstr | ubuntu 8.04 |
| 06:07.17 | blast007 | hmm |
| 06:07.26 | Lukstr | no curl package installed |
| 06:07.31 | blast007 | maybe just build on your windows system :P |
| 06:07.56 | blast007 | or install something a bit more stable, like debian etch (I think of 'ubuntu' as a bit more bleeding edge) |
| 06:08.08 | Lukstr | I have none of the tools and am not very windows friendly |
| 06:08.21 | Lukstr | I had this built yesterday, so I'm not really sure |
| 06:08.25 | blast007 | though I haven't had any issues on my ubuntu 7.10 system |
| 06:08.56 | Lukstr | what curl package do you have installed? |
| 06:09.09 | blast007 | I was talking about my debian etch server |
| 06:09.19 | blast007 | not sure what I have on the ubunutu system |
| 06:09.33 | Lukstr | well, what's the package on etch? |
| 06:09.56 | blast007 | libcurl3-dev |
| 06:10.06 | blast007 | and libcurl3 (runtimes) |
| 06:10.42 | Lukstr | alright let me try those |
| 06:11.33 | blast007 | I think this is everything I installed to get bzfs and bzadmin to build: |
| 06:11.35 | blast007 | gcc g++ make libtool automake autotools libncurses5 libncurses5-dev libcurl3-dev |
| 06:12.03 | blast007 | might have had to pick up some other stuff for 2.0.x |
| 06:12.14 | blast007 | libcurl3-dev was for 2.0.x |
| 06:12.17 | blast007 | trunk has it's own |
| 06:12.22 | Lukstr | well that's just it |
| 06:12.24 | Lukstr | I don't have one |
| 06:12.28 | Lukstr | and the trunk build is bombing |
| 06:12.34 | blast007 | what's the error now? |
| 06:12.38 | Lukstr | hang on |
| 06:12.42 | Lukstr | I don't have it atm |
| 06:12.47 | blast007 | and what flags are you passing to ./configure? |
| 06:13.00 | Lukstr | shared and optimized |
| 06:13.11 | Lukstr | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:13.23 | blast007 | take out optimized... not sure what that does |
| 06:13.35 | Lukstr | that's my next shot if this build fails |
| 06:13.42 | blast007 | k |
| 06:13.44 | Lukstr | oh damn, forgot -j2 :( |
| 06:13.56 | blast007 | -j3, you mean? |
| 06:14.03 | Lukstr | looks like libcurl just got made |
| 06:14.09 | Lukstr | -j3? |
| 06:14.28 | blast007 | don't you use one more than cores you have? |
| 06:14.54 | Lukstr | I didn't know that |
| 06:14.58 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17406 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/ (README.txt webstats.cpp): |
| 06:14.58 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: use the name of the action parameter to load custom templates. if the template is not found load the normal stat template. |
| 06:14.58 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: add a flag info template, flag loop, and flag info template options. |
| 06:15.09 | Lukstr | doesn't make a difference, it just starts N threads |
| 06:15.51 | blast007 | I think it's so that there's always another item ready when one finishes |
| 06:16.00 | Lukstr | ah interesting |
| 06:16.10 | Lukstr | why not -j1000 then? :P |
| 06:16.26 | blast007 | well, then you'd just waste resources :P |
| 06:16.31 | Lukstr | hehe |
| 06:16.35 | blast007 | I think it still trys to build 3 things at once |
| 06:17.06 | blast007 | it's just to keep the CPUs as busy as possible :) |
| 06:17.18 | Lukstr | no wasted cycles ftw |
| 06:19.48 | Lukstr | I don't know how I ever lived without fluxbox until now |
| 06:26.07 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17407 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/README.txt: document the flag info template items |
| 06:26.46 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17408 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/webstats.cpp: always generate the sorted player list for non player specific templates. |
| 06:31.55 | JeffM | ok, that should be more then enough for someone to start with templates :) |
| 06:34.13 | Lukstr | success |
| 06:34.31 | Lukstr | 20m on a P4@2.4GHz |
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| 06:37.26 | blast007 | Lukstr: yay |
| 06:37.33 | ruskie | hmm JeffM when will a new batch of bzhats be available? |
| 06:37.40 | Lukstr | oh delicious this runs so nice now |
| 06:37.52 | CplFoggyDewhurst | That's better, forgot about spaces in mIRC. |
| 06:37.57 | JeffM | ruskie: I have one left |
| 06:37.59 | JeffM | want it? |
| 06:38.45 | CplFoggyDewhurst | How's it going, guys? |
| 06:38.51 | blast007 | CplFoggyDewhurst: going good |
| 06:39.25 | ruskie | JeffM, sure thing... |
| 06:39.56 | ruskie | I'll have to prod my paypal guy to do the ordering... |
| 06:40.02 | JeffM | 27.50 shipped |
| 06:41.03 | CplFoggyDewhurst | Glad to hear it, Blast. New to BZflag. Been playing it all night, addicted already. Trying to figure out whether I prefer using mouse or keyboard, though. I seem to get more kills with mouse, but my dodging is still... dodgy. |
| 06:41.15 | blast007 | hehe |
| 06:41.20 | blast007 | it's an addicting game :) |
| 06:41.45 | Lukstr | when do we get to shoot mentors? :P |
| 06:42.22 | blast007 | :) |
| 06:42.37 | blast007 | you mean "get shot by mentors"? ;) |
| 06:43.17 | blast007 | I need to get my servers up again |
| 06:43.19 | CplFoggyDewhurst | It's very addictive. Never had so much fun on a multiplayer game in my life. Sad, huh? Amazing how it's free. Gonna play on it again in a minute, just shaking off a headache first. |
| 06:43.35 | Lukstr | yes, yes I do |
| 06:44.07 | Lukstr | CplFoggyDewhurst: glad to hear you like it :P |
| 06:44.29 | blast007 | CplFoggyDewhurst: there's also a forum if you're interested. The registration there ties into the game's authentication system. http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 06:44.44 | blast007 | that way your callsign is more or less reserved for you. |
| 06:45.07 | blast007 | not all servers are configured to reject users that don't properly authenticate |
| 06:45.31 | CplFoggyDewhurst | Did that earlier. Played it for a few hours, decided it's my new favourite game, wanted to go all official :P |
| 06:46.23 | blast007 | hehe |
| 06:47.26 | blast007 | we're slowly working on getting version 3.0 ready. still some major bugs that are in the way yet, as well as lots and lots of testing |
| 06:50.42 | CplFoggyDewhurst | Nice. I found it by accident. I was looking for "free multiplayer flight sims", as I used to be quite addicted to Air Attack before it went all gay and commercial. |
| 06:51.00 | Lukstr | a good flight sim is google earth :P |
| 06:51.06 | blast007 | hah |
| 06:51.11 | Lukstr | I forget what you type to enable that mode though |
| 06:52.19 | blast007 | http://earth.google.com/intl/en/userguide/v4/flightsim/index.html |
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| 06:53.47 | CplFoggyDewhurst | I mean like a WW2 Battle of Britain type flight sim, like Air Attack was. |
| 06:54.15 | CplFoggyDewhurst | Similar to BZflag FFA.. except in Mettershmitts & Spitfires. |
| 06:55.41 | CplFoggyDewhurst | Right good chatting, codeine's kicked in, so back to BZ :P |
| 06:59.07 | CplFoggyDewhurst | One sec. Bit of help. Just got an e-mail telling me to verify my IRC registration, but NICKSERV is telling me I need to login first... obviously I am logged in? |
| 07:00.17 | blast007 | not sure how that goes now |
| 07:00.27 | blast007 | they just implemented that new system a few days ago |
| 07:01.01 | blast007 | currently you're not identified to nickserv. maybe that's what they mean? |
| 07:02.26 | CplFoggyDewhurst | Ident'd, tried verifying again, please log in before trying to verify. Bah. Will try it the next time I login. |
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| 07:04.45 | blast007 | hi KingofCamelot |
| 07:04.45 | CplFoggyDewhurst | Bah nevermind, I see what's wrong. I accidentally registred Cpl as I forgot about mIRC not liking spaces. D'oh. It's 8 AM here, been up all night playing BZ :P |
| 07:04.58 | blast007 | hehe |
| 07:11.23 | KingofCamelot | Hey |
| 07:32.49 | blast007 | KingofCamelot: how's the coding going? |
| 07:34.00 | CplFoggyDewhurst | What do you think is better to use, Blast, keyboard or mouse? I'm quite getting used to the mouse. Takes a bit of mastering. |
| 07:34.29 | KingofCamelot | Good so far. Haven't had a chance to work on it today or yesterday cause of studying for finals. Looks like finals will put me mostly out of comission until next Wednesday. |
| 07:34.52 | blast007 | CplFoggyDewhurst: I use the mouse. Gives me more control when jumping. |
| 07:34.57 | blast007 | KingofCamelot: ah |
| 07:35.40 | KingofCamelot | My HUDuiScrollList is pretty much done, just need to figure out how to have the tank focus icon move down the list instead of staying fixed on the HUDuiScrollList itself. |
| 07:36.00 | blast007 | cool |
| 07:36.22 | DTRemenak | huduinavqueues ftw :) |
| 07:39.31 | CplFoggyDewhurst | Yeah, I haven't gotten the hang of jumping yet. I go off all over the place. I've only just learnt you can make the mouse box smaller for easier control. |
| 07:39.56 | blast007 | hmm, apparently our CIA script isn't set up 100% right. Like in http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag/.message/61296a for example, the 'webstats.cpp' link points to svnroot.svn.sourceforge.net instead of bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net |
| 07:42.06 | blast007 | maybe that's just an issue with SF's automatic script they set up |
| 07:42.19 | blast007 | because the libIRC CIA page has the same issue |
| 07:54.50 | Lukstr | KingofCamelot: where in the world might you be? |
| 07:54.54 | Lukstr | still having finals and all |
| 07:58.53 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03lukstr * r17409 10/branches/ (gsoc_08_libbzw/ gsoc_libbzw/): Getting rid of year in branch name, realized it's redundant... |
| 08:06.43 | blast007 | Lukstr: so what are you working on at the moment? |
| 08:06.54 | Lukstr | well just pulled my branch |
| 08:07.05 | Lukstr | going to add some beginnings to libbzw |
| 08:07.17 | blast007 | ok |
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| 09:00.30 | Lukstr | anyone out there? |
| 09:00.50 | blast007 | yup |
| 09:01.02 | Lukstr | http://my.bzflag.org/w/LibBZW |
| 09:03.46 | blast007 | do you also need the functionality from the src/bzfs/Custom*.* files? or will that be for later? |
| 09:03.59 | Lukstr | I might, let me take a look |
| 09:04.05 | Lukstr | the list there is just from a quick grep |
| 09:04.09 | blast007 | k |
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| 09:05.07 | blast007 | I don't think we need 3ds conversion to be a part of the lib |
| 09:05.33 | blast007 | that's just a tiny app for converting models from 3ds into bzw |
| 09:06.38 | Lukstr | I figured as much |
| 09:06.50 | blast007 | modeltool as well is just an application |
| 09:06.57 | blast007 | for converting .obj to bzw |
| 09:07.09 | Lukstr | might be worth looking at |
| 09:07.20 | Lukstr | maybe that will be part of libbzw? |
| 09:07.23 | blast007 | sure, it might have some useful things in there, but I'd focus on the core code first |
| 09:07.40 | blast007 | replicate what we already have |
| 09:07.44 | Lukstr | that's the plan |
| 09:07.55 | Lukstr | but first I have to mark everything that should be replicated |
| 09:09.27 | Lukstr | heh, WorldObject.h is entirely unused? |
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| 09:12.25 | Lukstr | blast007: I'm not sure if you'd know, but are all the libraries currently in bzflag libtool libraries? |
| 09:37.29 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03lukstr * r17410 10/branches/gsoc_libbzw/src/world/ (BZWorld.cxx BZWorld.h Makefile.am README): Created the beginnings of libBZW |
| 09:38.24 | Lukstr | collapses into sleep |
| 09:55.14 | Constitution | As Epyon so profoundly asserted, sleep is merely a poor substitute for caffeine :P |
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| 10:25.14 | ruskie | just bought a http://techgage.com/article/logitech_chillstream_gamepad/ hopefully it'll work well enough for bzflag... |
| 10:30.30 | CBG | http://gregmaletic.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/apple_mighty_mouse.jpg ftw |
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| 11:43.49 | Constitution | hmmm, I think gdb just gave me a bus error :P |
| 11:55.43 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03macsforme * r17411 10/branches/v2_99_shot_branch/src/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:55.43 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: Implement rudimentary getShotLifetime() class method for server-side sanity checks |
| 11:55.43 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: Stub in getShotVelocity() class method; not sure how well this is going to work right now due to state discrepancies |
| 11:55.43 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: s/efectiveShotType/effectiveShotType/g |
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| 17:13.24 | JeffM | L4m3r, did you get my e-mail about your bzflag.org domain? |
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| 17:56.58 | JeffM | hmmm.. what's a good layout design for server stat page? |
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| 18:37.19 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17413 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/ (README.txt webstats.cpp): |
| 18:37.19 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: add tracking of total unique players, reged and unreged. |
| 18:37.19 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: add tracking of data counts in and out. |
| 18:37.19 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: add tracking of uptime |
| 18:39.08 | L4m3r | JeffM: yes, I did |
| 18:39.31 | L4m3r | I will need to talk to Tim about changing the host entry, once I get my setup ready |
| 18:39.41 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17414 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/templates/stats.tmpl: dump out basic lifetime stats |
| 18:40.02 | JeffM | L4m3r is it pointing to the wrong place? |
| 18:40.06 | L4m3r | my host assigns IPs to each domain used, and most likely the one for .net will not the the same one assigned to .org |
| 18:40.23 | JeffM | .net currently points to where.org goes |
| 18:40.26 | L4m3r | once I add .net and move stuff over I'll know what the IP needs to be |
| 18:40.48 | JeffM | how many IPs do you have? |
| 18:40.56 | L4m3r | there's a huge pool |
| 18:41.06 | JeffM | you can't have .org and .net change? |
| 18:41.11 | JeffM | share I mean |
| 18:41.21 | L4m3r | I can mirror one to the other, I think |
| 18:41.30 | L4m3r | but the IPs might still be different |
| 18:41.34 | JeffM | cus basicly .org for you will go away |
| 18:41.49 | L4m3r | yeah, I'll get everything moved and have the host entry changed |
| 18:41.58 | JeffM | what a pain |
| 18:42.04 | L4m3r | having just .net actually makes it easier |
| 18:42.24 | L4m3r | ReamHost has its quirks :P |
| 18:42.25 | JeffM | everyone else just needs to change links |
| 18:42.54 | L4m3r | yeah, I'm going to have to roll through bzbb and change all the references to my plugin repo :P |
| 18:44.16 | L4m3r | well, I gotta head down to lab and demo my FINAL PROJECT :o |
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| 18:44.24 | L4m3r | it sorta works, too! |
| 19:01.47 | Lukstr | gooodmorning |
| 19:02.27 | Lukstr | JeffM: Should I look at anything from modeltool for libbzw? http://my.bzflag.org/w/LibBZW |
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| 19:30.04 | brlcad | gets to pimp up bzflag a bit |
| 19:30.39 | Lukstr | brlcad: oh? |
| 19:32.13 | Winny | I think he's drunk again |
| 19:32.19 | brlcad | nope |
| 19:32.29 | brlcad | i have had waay too much coffee this week though |
| 19:34.08 | Lukstr | yay coffee |
| 19:42.22 | whodaman- | LOL |
| 19:42.37 | Winny | ? |
| 19:42.49 | whodaman- | oh |
| 19:42.56 | whodaman- | wrong tab :S |
| 19:43.00 | whodaman- | *sob* |
| 19:43.05 | whodaman- | meant for PM :P |
| 19:43.21 | Lukstr | we'll let you off this one time |
| 19:47.31 | brad | ~bzflist |
| 19:47.47 | brad | brlcad: ^ :) |
| 19:48.08 | brad | thinks he spilt coffee on the server |
| 19:49.00 | brad | nvm, just a bit slow right now |
| 20:08.16 | brlcad | hm |
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| 20:41.19 | whodaman- | ~bzflist |
| 20:41.27 | whodaman- | sigh |
| 20:41.49 | Winny | wins the internets |
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| 20:44.47 | Winny | can you compare integers and floats (in a if statement) in C? |
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| 20:46.23 | Lukstr | Winny: I'm going to say yes |
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| 20:53.54 | JeffM | Winny, sure |
| 20:54.06 | JeffM | the only time you'll get a warning is signed to unsigned compares |
| 20:54.15 | Winny | meh, doesn't matter now.. just discovered NQC doesn't support floats, heh |
| 20:54.30 | JeffM | why are you programing for legos? |
| 20:54.38 | Winny | hehe, summative |
| 20:54.49 | JeffM | and yeah the little 16 bit arm dosn't do floats |
| 20:54.55 | JeffM | IIRC the NXT does |
| 20:55.22 | Winny | I'm afraid I'm going to run out of memory with 500 lines |
| 21:03.01 | Winny | meh, still fun :) |
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| 21:17.56 | whodaman- | I've always wondered, who is bier? |
| 21:20.05 | Winny | let's ask |
| 21:20.13 | Winny | bier, who are you? whodaman- is interested. |
| 21:20.55 | Lukstr | Winny: * bier has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 21:20.58 | Lukstr | oh wait |
| 21:21.00 | Lukstr | he is back |
| 21:21.03 | Winny | :) |
| 21:21.09 | Lukstr | s/.*// |
| 21:23.11 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17415 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webstats/webstats.cpp: |
| 21:23.11 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: iterate players correctly |
| 21:23.11 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: don't crash when trying to get players |
| 21:23.11 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: compute the uptime correctly |
| 21:23.12 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: compute the data transfer sizes using the data sizes from the log messages. |
| 21:33.32 | Lukstr | JeffM: would I be correct in assuming WorldObject.h is unused? |
| 21:34.11 | JeffM | where is it? |
| 21:34.19 | Lukstr | src/world/ |
| 21:34.50 | JeffM | probably not |
| 21:35.01 | Lukstr | it is used? |
| 21:35.16 | Lukstr | I can find nothing including it |
| 21:35.18 | JeffM | not that I can see |
| 21:35.41 | JeffM | well wait |
| 21:36.12 | JeffM | ahh yeah that was new stuff I was adding for a new object |
| 21:36.17 | JeffM | IIRC |
| 21:36.24 | JeffM | nothing uses that class? |
| 21:36.46 | Lukstr | looks that way |
| 21:36.50 | JeffM | then nope |
| 21:37.04 | Lukstr | leave or nuke in branch? |
| 21:37.14 | JeffM | who added it? |
| 21:37.21 | JeffM | it may not be mine |
| 21:37.23 | Lukstr | hmm |
| 21:38.25 | Lukstr | brlcad |
| 21:39.21 | JeffM | then I'd check with him for sure, but Yeah probably can ditch it |
| 21:40.17 | Lukstr | brlcad: ping |
| 21:40.50 | Lukstr | JeffM: do you mind checking my branch's /src/world to see if I have everything in order so far? |
| 21:42.47 | JeffM | sure |
| 21:42.50 | JeffM | it's coming down now |
| 21:43.04 | Lukstr | alright, this too if you want to look: http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/branches/gsoc_libbzw/src/world/ |
| 21:43.25 | Lukstr | I've basically only added the makefile, which I think fits the bill |
| 21:43.35 | Lukstr | I haven't added it to the main build yet |
| 21:43.52 | Lukstr | which I imagine I won't do for some time |
| 21:43.52 | JeffM | I don't know much about makefiles |
| 21:43.55 | Lukstr | ah |
| 21:44.04 | JeffM | Erroneous does ! |
| 21:44.11 | JeffM | Erroneous, I choose YOU! |
| 21:44.29 | Erroneous | pft, I don't know anything about makefiles |
| 21:44.33 | Erroneous | just fakes it |
| 21:44.54 | Lukstr | What sort of jazz must I do for you VC folk, anything I should worry about atm? |
| 21:45.07 | Erroneous | don't worry about it |
| 21:45.19 | JeffM | yeah we'll have to do it |
| 21:45.24 | Erroneous | we have windows maintainers for a reason ;) |
| 21:45.54 | Erroneous | once it's all set up you can add and remove files without too much trouble, if you feel like it. but the initial setup pretty much requires vc. |
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| 21:46.39 | Lukstr | ah very well |
| 21:46.43 | Lukstr | food times, bbl |
| 21:51.50 | JeffM | not sure why you need a readme there. |
| 21:52.22 | JeffM | Erroneous, he gonna do that as a static lib or dynamic? |
| 21:52.30 | JeffM | being his mentor an all :) |
| 21:52.39 | Erroneous | pft, heck if I know :) |
| 21:52.48 | JeffM | dyamic it is :) |
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| 22:06.09 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17416 10/branches/gsoc_libbzw/ (4 files in 2 dirs): build the world lib as a dll |
| 22:06.28 | JeffM | there, then he can at least start off knowing about declspecs :) |
| 22:11.45 | Lukstr | dynamic? |
| 22:11.46 | Lukstr | static! |
| 22:14.54 | JeffM | dynamic is cooler |
| 22:15.22 | JeffM | but I can swap it if need be |
| 22:16.20 | Lukstr | well it doesn't need to be dynamic does it? |
| 22:16.38 | Lukstr | I mean if we revamped the bzw system I doubt we'd say "Oh here's the new lib, don't bother updating anything else" |
| 22:16.39 | JeffM | if it's used by more then one thing dynamic means it isn't duplicated in each app |
| 22:16.50 | Lukstr | I suppose |
| 22:17.00 | JeffM | then static it is |
| 22:17.02 | Lukstr | well I'll leave it static for now, worry about that when we actually start integrating it |
| 22:17.43 | JeffM | it's easier to go from dynamic to static |
| 22:17.54 | JeffM | static to dynamic on windows can have issues if you do things wrong in the code |
| 22:17.59 | JeffM | like pass around STL |
| 22:18.05 | JeffM | static is fine |
| 22:18.11 | JeffM | it'll just generaly always be static then |
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| 22:19.25 | Lukstr | well must we worry about that right now? I mean it's not like it's being used for anything |
| 22:19.39 | JeffM | it's a design choice |
| 22:19.40 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17417 10/branches/gsoc_libbzw/ (MSVC/VC8/world.vcproj src/world/BZWorld.h): make the world a static lib |
| 22:19.42 | Lukstr | I doubt we'll be building it on windows any time soon? |
| 22:19.53 | JeffM | dude, it builds on windows now ;) |
| 22:20.00 | Lukstr | ruh roh |
| 22:20.01 | JeffM | has since you went to dinner |
| 22:20.13 | JeffM | it's a design coice |
| 22:20.27 | Erroneous | it'll build on windows throughout your project. part of what y'all are supposed to be learning here is cross-platform development practices ;) |
| 22:20.28 | JeffM | if you eventualy want it to be dynamic, then it's best to start that way |
| 22:20.49 | Lukstr | Are there any other dynamic libs currently? |
| 22:20.53 | JeffM | no |
| 22:20.56 | JeffM | other then plugins |
| 22:20.58 | Erroneous | there's always a first ;) |
| 22:21.01 | JeffM | yeah |
| 22:21.13 | Erroneous | but honestly I think static would be easier |
| 22:21.19 | JeffM | making it dynamic just means you can't fire around STL, and any memory you allocate you free |
| 22:21.26 | JeffM | and you don't free anything for anyone else |
| 22:21.32 | JeffM | yeah static is fine for yours |
| 22:21.59 | Lukstr | I'm used to free()'ing my own stuff in C anyways :P |
| 22:22.00 | JeffM | but yes, you have a windows make file and a sample (ex-exported) class |
| 22:22.14 | JeffM | Lukstr, yes but I mean IN your dll |
| 22:22.28 | JeffM | basicly if you allocate something in the DLL, it has to be freed in the DLL |
| 22:22.29 | Lukstr | right |
| 22:22.41 | JeffM | memory allocations can't cross the module boundry |
| 22:22.57 | JeffM | you may think it's easy, but when you get into templates it gets harder |
| 22:23.07 | Lukstr | that's fine with me |
| 22:23.13 | JeffM | it's static now |
| 22:23.18 | JeffM | it'll build world.lib |
| 22:23.23 | Lukstr | I've never been a fan of handing users something they have to clean up |
| 22:23.24 | JeffM | and we can just link that into whatever |
| 22:23.43 | JeffM | Lukstr, yes but do you have them hand you a vector, you fill it, and they clean it up? |
| 22:24.14 | Lukstr | if they allocated it |
| 22:24.22 | JeffM | that would not work |
| 22:24.26 | JeffM | as you fill it it may grow |
| 22:24.27 | Erroneous | but you allocated the objects contained in it |
| 22:24.32 | JeffM | see ;) |
| 22:24.38 | Erroneous | it gets fun :) |
| 22:24.40 | JeffM | yeah you fill it with your memory |
| 22:24.43 | JeffM | then it goes back |
| 22:24.43 | Lukstr | silly windows |
| 22:24.47 | Lukstr | ;) |
| 22:24.48 | JeffM | then they try to delete it.. boom |
| 22:24.58 | JeffM | yeah that is the part that sucks |
| 22:25.05 | JeffM | statics don't have that issue |
| 22:25.22 | Lukstr | well theoretically DLL's work the way dynamic libraries should |
| 22:26.43 | Erroneous | it's all limitations in the ms runtimes, or with particular build targets |
| 22:27.07 | JeffM | it would be possible for each module to use different runtimes |
| 22:27.11 | Erroneous | if you build the lib and the executable with the same version of visual studio and link to the same set of dynamic runtimes, those problems don't exist |
| 22:27.45 | Erroneous | linux has the same problems with backwards-incompatible glibc's |
| 22:28.00 | Erroneous | microsoft just does it more often and more broken ;) |
| 22:28.15 | Erroneous | and "just recompile everything" is not an option for windows users |
| 22:28.18 | JeffM | and dosn't let the STL do it |
| 22:28.26 | JeffM | cus they don't declspec it |
| 22:28.45 | Lukstr | I wish I had irssi installed |
| 22:28.52 | Erroneous | cross-dll boundary STL passing is fine in .NET and newer if you're using exactly the same STL libraries for both modules |
| 22:29.27 | Lukstr | alright chaps, I have to run to a new location for a few hours, will bring my laptop though and be with you all shortly |
| 22:29.37 | Winny | whoa |
| 22:29.53 | Winny | why does my server say "Game is full or over. Try again later."? |
| 22:29.57 | Winny | it's got 12/28 people |
| 22:30.01 | blast007 | heh |
| 22:30.02 | Erroneous | perhaps it's full, or over? :) |
| 22:30.17 | Winny | Erroneous: no time limit, not full... |
| 22:30.35 | blast007 | that's cool |
| 22:30.44 | Think_Differentl | perhaps an admin ran /gameover? |
| 22:31.02 | Winny | no one has that priv |
| 22:31.12 | JeffM | not even your mom? |
| 22:31.21 | Winny | you leave her out of this |
| 22:31.25 | blast007 | lol |
| 22:31.27 | JeffM | ;) |
| 22:32.21 | Winny | hmm, odd |
| 22:32.23 | Winny | restarts |
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| 22:36.56 | Winny | JeffM: I rebooted the server and still get the message :/ |
| 22:37.11 | JeffM | suck' |
| 22:39.04 | Winny | any idea what might cause it? |
| 22:39.47 | JeffM | team you want is full |
| 22:39.50 | JeffM | or dosn't exist |
| 22:40.00 | Winny | happening in bztank.net to me too |
| 22:40.09 | JeffM | or you are a bot going for observer |
| 22:40.39 | blast007 | Winny: did you try restarting the client? |
| 22:41.20 | Winny | many times |
| 22:41.31 | JeffM | the message comes from the server |
| 22:41.35 | JeffM | in 3 of the cases |
| 22:41.44 | JeffM | 2 of the cases |
| 22:41.53 | JeffM | you are joining as an observer? |
| 22:42.01 | Winny | nope |
| 22:42.02 | Winny | auto |
| 22:42.06 | Winny | and the server isn't full |
| 22:42.18 | blast007 | and it works for me ;) |
| 22:42.21 | JeffM | try a regular team |
| 22:42.23 | blast007 | let me try auto |
| 22:42.27 | Winny | seems to be effecting certain servers on 5154 |
| 22:42.52 | blast007 | yeah, doing it to me when I try auto |
| 22:43.08 | blast007 | okay... any team... |
| 22:44.19 | blast007 | ibot: bzfquery bzflagr.net |
| 22:44.28 | blast007 | hmm |
| 22:44.32 | blast007 | that's not a good sign |
| 22:44.34 | Winny | yeah, what on earth |
| 22:45.02 | blast007 | what is your -mp setting? |
| 22:45.12 | blast007 | it matches what it shows on the list? |
| 22:45.37 | Winny | -mp 0,15,15,0,0,15 |
| 22:45.58 | Winny | I havent touched the configuration of the server for months |
| 22:46.04 | blast007 | fun |
| 22:46.07 | Winny | this just started happening randomly |
| 22:46.14 | blast007 | have you updated bzfs? |
| 22:46.44 | Winny | asks Constitution |
| 22:48.27 | Constitution | mm, not for several weeks at least |
| 22:48.57 | Constitution | I don't think much (if anything) has changed, though |
| 22:51.43 | Winny | JeffM, appears to be a DDoS attack |
| 22:52.05 | JeffM | fun |
| 22:52.07 | JeffM | ban em |
| 22:52.10 | Think_Differentl | all from the same IP |
| 22:52.18 | JeffM | block it at the interface |
| 22:53.25 | Winny | might wanna knock 76.187.122.162 on the listserver |
| 22:53.31 | Winny | there are thousands of connections in the logfile |
| 22:53.41 | JeffM | I doubt that will do anything |
| 22:53.51 | JeffM | but sure whynot |
| 22:54.10 | JeffM | the list would not be the only way to get your IP |
| 22:54.31 | Winny | I know, but he could attack the list itself |
| 22:54.57 | Winny | http://pastebin.ca/1040810 if you're interested, that's <10% of them |
| 22:55.03 | JeffM | then the list security system would block them |
| 22:55.08 | JeffM | the list runs mod security |
| 22:55.29 | blast007 | among other things |
| 22:56.09 | JeffM | yeah |
| 22:56.22 | JeffM | they'd get like 10 connections or so then get auto blocked for a bit |
| 22:56.39 | JeffM | we get DDoSed ALL the time ;) |
| 23:00.33 | Constitution | oh, that was a whole lot of code for nothing... |
| 23:00.49 | Constitution | guess you can't use the modulus operator on floats now, can you :P |
| 23:01.35 | Winny | hehe |
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| 23:05.45 | Constitution | somehow, in Player::doDRLogic(), we have a drData.rot of 429,496,730,000, which bzfs is clamping to +-180 by subtracting 180 at a time |
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| 23:22.49 | Mets | how do you load local textures again? |
| 23:25.01 | Mets | I used the texture "path" but the client always says it can't load it (2.0.10) |
| 23:26.22 | brlcad | Lukstr: pong |
| 23:28.32 | brlcad | Lukstr, erm, I added it? I thought WorldObject was Erroneous's premie baby iirc but yeah, nothing uses it either way |
| 23:29.14 | Mets | do I have to add localhost to my download access maybe? |
| 23:29.18 | brlcad | yeah, log confirms.. not me |
| 23:29.28 | Constitution | Mets: no, just specify the filename |
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| 23:30.25 | Mets | Constitution, I did, it still says it can't load it for some reason |
| 23:30.38 | Mets | I'll play around with it *mutters* |
| 23:38.40 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03macsforme * r17418 10/branches/v2_99_shot_branch/src/ (bzfs/bzfsClientMessages.cxx game/ShotManager.cxx): Finished getShotLifetime() and getShotVelocity() rudimentary class methods. getShotLifetime() will still need to be implemented for shot types other than standard and GM. |
| 23:41.37 | JeffM | Constitution, how did it get that big? |
| 23:43.22 | Constitution | as in the length of time? |
| 23:43.39 | JeffM | the time was that big that made the rot that larger? |
| 23:43.46 | Constitution | oh, that |
| 23:44.10 | Constitution | I don't know yet... still looking into it |
| 23:44.14 | JeffM | k |
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| 23:49.30 | Constitution | hm, I suppose this |
| 23:49.32 | Constitution | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.32 | Constitution | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.37 | Constitution | oops |
| 23:49.46 | Constitution | while(currentRot < -180.0) |
| 23:49.50 | Constitution | drData.rot += 180.0; |
| 23:49.53 | Constitution | would not be right |
| 23:50.13 | JeffM | yeah probably not :) |
| 23:50.20 | JeffM | stupid copy and paste :( |
| 23:50.44 | Constitution | looks like an infinite loop waiting to happen :) |
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| 23:55.05 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03macsforme * r17419 10/branches/v2_99_shot_branch/src/bzfs/GameKeeper.cxx: Fixed incorrect comparison. |
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