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00:00.10JeffMit's biggitude
00:00.12JeffMI don't have a way to masure it
00:00.39me1oh, ok ;)
00:00.58JeffMIt's a Ping PH03 model
00:01.34me1"sandwich bill cap"
00:01.38JeffMyeah
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03:50.15FusionDudewhat happens when a netsplit orphans a server?
04:00.57brlcadusually staffers know about it and rehub it (or are already in the process of rehubbing it)
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04:12.06FusionDudewhat is a Windows SOCKET initialized to when it isn't set?
04:13.31BulletCatcherbets you aren't supposed to ask that question
04:14.02FusionDudewell, if I can't use -1 (the unix convention) there must be another value
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04:21.36Flashnotes that network.cxx uses int for Windows SOCKETs
04:26.28BulletCatcherI'll hazard a guess that an appropriate size MAX value from /usr/include/stdint.h would be a safe "invalid socket" value.
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04:29.01BulletCatcherIf the Windows and unix socket interfaces really are as mismatched as it seems it may be worthwhile to make an abstraction layer above them.
04:34.31LukstrBulletCatcher: do refer to IPC sockets?
04:35.02Lukstror net sockets?
04:36.33FlashBulletCatcher: I don't think they are all that mismatched, it's just that Windows uses a SOCKET type instead of the unix 'int'
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04:44.27FlasheTangenT`: are you using an emacs IRC client?
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05:35.46Flashis a norang admin handy?
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05:46.01blast007Flash: what's up?
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10:29.07Metsdoes anybody have the old check_masterbans.sh file from the servercontrol plugin?
10:29.26Metsdoesn't seem to be on sourceforge
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12:39.29CIA-33FTGL: 03sammy * r1145 10/trunk/src/ (FTFont/FTBufferFont.cpp FTGlyph/FTBufferGlyph.cpp): * Fix an off-by-one error in FTBufferGlyph::Render.
12:40.32CIA-33FTGL: 03sammy * r1146 10/trunk/src/FTFont/ (FTBufferFont.cpp FTBufferFontImpl.h):
12:40.32CIA-33FTGL: * Implement caching in FTBufferFont. To avoid unnecessary texture uploads,
12:40.32CIA-33FTGL:  each font object keeps the last 16 strings in the graphic card.
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14:38.26CIA-33FTGL: 03sammy * r1147 10/trunk/docs/ (6 files):
14:38.26CIA-33FTGL: * Refactor the documentation to have a cleaner frontpage: put the tutorial
14:38.26CIA-33FTGL:  and the FAQ in two separate pages, add links to the most important C and
14:38.26CIA-33FTGL:  C++ documentation, and add projects_using_ftgl.txt to the doxygen project.
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15:30.27CIA-33FTGL: 03sammy * r1148 10/trunk/demo/ (c-demo.c simple.cpp): * Print FPS information in the small demos.
15:30.47CIA-33FTGL: 03sammy * r1149 10/trunk/docs/projects_using_ftgl.txt:
15:30.47CIA-33FTGL: * Add a few entries to the list of projects using FTGL: Gem, Libinstrudeo,
15:30.47CIA-33FTGL:  Light Speed!, projectM, Tulip.
15:31.14CIA-33FTGL: 03sammy * r1150 10/trunk/src/FTGlyph/FTBufferGlyph.cpp: * Fix a visual bug in FTBufferFont caused by overlapping glyphs.
15:31.35CIA-33FTGL: 03sammy * r1151 10/trunk/src/FTFont/ (FTBufferFont.cpp FTBufferFontImpl.h): * Empty the FTBufferFont cache when changing the face size.
15:32.03CIA-33FTGL: 03sammy * r1152 10/trunk/docs/ (images/texturefont.png tutorial.dox): * Add GLBufferFont to the tutorial.
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17:28.24CIA-33FTGL: 03dtremenak * r1153 10/trunk/msvc/config.h: quell deprecation messages for posix and c-style string functions
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23:36.26dossjhhello
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23:37.53Winnyhi
23:38.34dossjhi cannot get bzflag to start and i have run out of things to try
23:38.54Winnydid you delete your config?
23:39.05dossjhi dont see one
23:39.30dossjhim on winxp so it would be in the my documents/bzflag folder right?
23:40.15WinnyC:\Documents and Settings\<name>\My Documents\My BZFlag Files\2.0
23:41.16dossjhthere is no 2.0 folder can that be the problem?
23:42.44Metsdid you try reinstalling?
23:43.01Winnyif you're not running as administrator it may not work
23:43.07JeffMwhere is your my documents dir?
23:43.11JeffMis it on a remote volume?
23:43.16JeffMor a UNC path?
23:43.30Metsnorth carolina? :p
23:43.49JeffMMets, reinstalling dosn't do anything to the config or profile dirs
23:44.20dossjhthe my document folder is in the normal place
23:44.57Metsalways worth a shot on windows
23:44.57JeffMwhat does it say when it crashes? how far into the game does it get?
23:44.57JeffMMets, no it is not
23:44.57dossjhits this way on two computers i installed on...but the third works
23:45.06dossjhit gets to the testing phase
23:45.13dossjhlike right at the begining
23:45.19JeffMwhat video cards are on the ones that it crashes on?
23:45.35dossjhi got a 7600GS on this box
23:45.44dossjhand the other is some intel laptop crap
23:45.50JeffMthey have curent drivers?
23:46.01dossjhyeah...just installed the new ones today
23:46.04JeffMhmmm
23:46.08dossjhi tested my opengl also
23:46.10dossjhits working
23:46.20JeffMif you use the "in a window" shortcut does that get it any further?
23:46.46dossjhexactly the same
23:47.01JeffMdoes it give you any error when it dies?
23:47.04dossjhis there a way to get error messages i tried the -d and -echo
23:47.07dossjhno
23:47.07JeffMor does it just exit?
23:47.11dossjhjust exit
23:47.21JeffMthen we arn't hitting a real error conndition
23:47.24JeffModd
23:47.32JeffMecho just does in game chat
23:47.37dossjhoh
23:47.50JeffM-d only tracks our internal state to the console not any form of real debuging
23:48.00JeffMwhat version of directX do you have installed?
23:48.12dossjh9c
23:48.25JeffMi dunno then
23:48.29JeffMit all sounds good
23:48.35JeffMyou are using 2.0.10?
23:48.40dossjhyes
23:48.55JeffMmy gut says window or GL setup somehow
23:49.05JeffMbut it should not crash
23:49.19JeffMor it could be config sutff
23:49.21dossjhyeah...if i could get an error message i could fix it
23:49.36dossjhi dont have the 2.0 directory on this comp...what could cause that?
23:49.39JeffMare you able to compile?
23:49.43Winnytried windowed mode?
23:49.47dossjhyeah
23:49.50JeffMwell we don't build the dir untill we finish testing
23:49.56dossjhohhh
23:49.58JeffMso it kinda makes sense that you don't have it
23:50.03JeffMwe build it on first write
23:50.22JeffMbut we don't write untill we know what to put in the config :)
23:50.23dossjhis there a way to find out where in the test it fails?
23:50.32JeffMsure
23:50.35JeffMuse a debuger
23:50.39JeffMcan you compile?
23:50.59dossjhi can....what are the dependencies...cause i have none
23:51.12JeffMdepends what compiler you use
23:51.29dossjhwell...what do you use gcc??
23:51.33JeffMif oyu have no compiler you can get VC8 and all the stuff it needs but it is not trivial to setup
23:51.47JeffMour normal windows builds use VIsual C++
23:52.07dossjhi got vc 6.0 i think somewhere
23:52.10JeffMit is possible to use the windows port of gcc, MinGW but it too is not trival to setup
23:52.14JeffMwe don't support 6 anymore
23:52.22JeffM2.0.x is done in 7.1
23:52.36JeffM2.99+ is done in 8.0
23:52.54JeffMnow how do you know it gets to the testing part?
23:53.10dossjhit shows some messages in the -echo file thing
23:53.17dossjhsomething about testing modes or soemthing
23:53.19JeffMthe command line
23:53.28JeffMwell that may mean it dies anytime after that
23:53.31JeffMlet me look at the code
23:53.38dossjhok
23:54.09JeffMgets a tree for banch
23:54.31JeffMare you a limited user on the system?
23:54.39dossjhno
23:54.43dossjhi am admin
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23:55.33JeffMit's an english language system?
23:55.37dossjhyes
23:55.51dossjhits media center with sp2
23:55.53dossjhif that matters
23:55.59JeffMshould be fine
23:56.08JeffMI"m just trying to think of the things I know we've fixed
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23:56.46JeffMso in the command prompt what is the last thing it says before it dies
23:57.16dossjhwell...
23:57.25dossjhon the prompt it never says anything
23:57.33dossjhbut on the screen it says full quality
23:57.47dossjhand the instant that comes up it goes away
23:58.03JeffMok so it does draw the screen
23:58.05JeffMand the chatbox
23:58.07JeffMhmmm
23:58.13dossjhyes
23:58.34JeffMthen the test isn't failing
23:58.56JeffMor maybe it is
23:58.57dossjhso its between there and creating the directory?
23:58.57JeffMhmm
23:59.03JeffMhaven't looked thru this for a while

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