| 00:16.28 | spldart | omglol @ BC |
| 00:16.34 | FalseProphet | BC? |
| 00:16.59 | spldart | BulletCatcher's Power of Attourney |
| 00:20.47 | BulletCatcher | :-) |
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| 00:30.23 | KTL | fantastisch die regen |
| 00:30.26 | Constitution | BulletCatcher: congrats |
| 00:30.37 | KTL | sorry, wrong channel due to xchat starting up |
| 00:31.25 | KTL | the sewer cover is jumping up in front of my window due to the rain, spooky sound |
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| 00:39.57 | BulletCatcher | Thanks, Constitution. |
| 00:48.01 | spldart | Fun to watch storm runoff blow through serwer covers :) |
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| 01:25.34 | EvanEjk | does anybody have experiance with web hosting? |
| 01:26.26 | EvanEjk | im wondering if when you transfer a domain does that mean there is just a redirect link on the new one of it actually gets moved to the new hoster? |
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| 01:48.57 | Constitution | EvanEjk: moved to a new hoster |
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| 01:58.46 | F687s | Is it remotely possible to use two config files for a bzfs server? (like, one for common and one for map-specific) |
| 01:59.57 | Constitution | yep |
| 02:00.05 | Constitution | just specify multiple -conf flags |
| 02:00.19 | F687s | Usually when I try that it uses one and ignores the other. |
| 02:00.40 | Constitution | it shouldn't |
| 02:01.14 | F687s | Yah, I'll have to look into that. |
| 02:09.12 | spldart | my experience has been use first ignore second |
| 02:09.26 | spldart | but haven't tried in quite a while |
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| 02:53.14 | Quol | apparently, if your linux box has not been rebooted in 300 days, a file system check is performed which takes about 20 minutes :) - I thought my server was dead there for a bit |
| 03:10.04 | short_circuit | whats the process name? |
| 03:10.11 | BulletCatcher | F687s: A configuration file can contain -conf lines that reference other files. You should be able to nest them as much as you want. |
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| 03:17.35 | BulletCatcher | Quol: A command like "dumpe2fs -h /dev/sda1 | grep -i check" will tell you when the next automatic check is scheduled for an ext2 or ext3 file system. |
| 03:18.23 | Quol | BulletCatcher, ya - I know...I just forgot about it, and since it was a year ago that I rebooted that darn box, I was worried that after 20 min it was dead :) - but thanks for the reminder |
| 03:18.46 | Quol | hard to do that command after you initiate the shutdown -r now :) |
| 03:19.16 | BulletCatcher | :-) The same thing happened to me recently, but at least I could see the console so I knew what it was doing. |
| 03:20.13 | Quol | lol - ya, I wish my console over IP redirection was working - but that broke a little while back - don't know why...the silly java IPMI thingy isn't working anymore :( |
| 03:21.27 | BulletCatcher | You can change the check interval using the tune2fs command if you want, but if you only reboot once every 10 months then you are probably doomed to be surprised by it every time. :-) |
| 03:21.42 | Quol | anyone here use gentoo? if so - anyone ever tried upgrading from a 2006.0 profile to a 2008.0 profile directly (without going to a 2007 profile that is)? |
| 03:22.22 | Quol | lol BulletCatcher - ya, probably, I think I will set a shutdown message reminding me of that :) |
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| 03:28.17 | jude- | hello all |
| 03:28.28 | jude- | finals exams are finished :) |
| 03:29.01 | BulletCatcher | Congrats. Hope you did well. |
| 03:29.13 | jude- | we'll see--grades are not yet posted |
| 03:29.18 | Constitution | heya jude- |
| 03:29.23 | jude- | hey Constitution! |
| 03:29.38 | jude- | what's up? |
| 03:29.54 | Constitution | not too much... finals just finished here too. :) taking it easy for a bit |
| 03:30.20 | jude- | I had my last one only a few hours ago |
| 03:36.27 | jude- | I should have said this much earlier, but better late than never: Congratulations to all of the GSoC 2008 students! You're in for a world of fun! |
| 03:36.53 | blast007 | hi jude-! |
| 03:37.00 | jude- | hey blast007! |
| 03:37.10 | jude- | how goes it? |
| 03:37.33 | blast007 | going good |
| 03:38.11 | jude- | glad to hear it :) |
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| 04:03.59 | Flash | F687s: you can have a -conf argument in your conf file |
| 04:04.08 | Flash | so one can "include" another |
| 04:04.50 | Flash | oh... what BulletCatcher said |
| 04:09.10 | blast007 | hmm, I wonder... |
| 04:09.45 | blast007 | make one config called 'one.conf' that contains -conf two.conf, and another config called 'two.conf' that contains -conf one.conf :P |
| 04:10.03 | blast007 | quick, someone try it! ;) |
| 04:10.05 | Flash | blast007: that would not be fun |
| 04:10.31 | Flash | no infinite loop detection in the conf argument handling |
| 04:14.07 | blast007 | hehe |
| 04:29.32 | Mets | wow i just posted 1250 lag on some new server |
| 04:29.59 | Mets | that is really impressive, that's like three times my highest ever |
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| 05:19.26 | jude- | goes to bed |
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| 14:38.37 | F687s | This looks relatively pointless. (http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=124114) |
| 14:38.52 | Winny | yeah |
| 14:38.57 | Winny | it's officially summer |
| 14:39.22 | Winny | in about a month they'll get bored and go away |
| 14:41.01 | me1 | D:, it's not summer here for a month |
| 14:41.32 | F687s | I mean, who would post a topic that is similar to one right below it? |
| 14:42.14 | F687s | Speaking of summer, maybe some of these lusers will get the idea of actually _going outside_ this summer, making the forums a better place. ;-) |
| 14:43.26 | me1 | What is really bad are those that don't go away at the end of summer |
| 14:46.28 | Winny | hehe |
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| 15:06.32 | delusional | constitution... it's not a multiple -conf, but similar, don't forget the "include" function in bzw, which i find especially useful when working with drawinfo. |
| 15:14.15 | Winny | blast007: around? |
| 15:31.43 | blast007 | Winny: sorta |
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| 15:38.11 | Winny | blast007: any idea who is going to code the sidebar items for the site? |
| 15:38.29 | blast007 | drupal stuff? |
| 15:38.38 | blast007 | shrugs |
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| 15:43.09 | Winny | figures :P |
| 15:44.08 | blast007 | probably me.. |
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| 15:45.53 | TD-Linux | can't wait to see what his bzbb thread causes |
| 15:47.05 | blast007 | "make teh laser shuut thru walls!!!" |
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| 16:15.41 | Winny | TWIYF -> The Wiki is your friend |
| 16:15.44 | Winny | :p |
| 16:16.14 | Winny | I should make that into a sig or something |
| 16:27.46 | F687s | Winny: You can try, but that won't guarantee people will listen. ;-) |
| 16:32.18 | Winny | hehe |
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| 17:16.41 | jftsang | hello |
| 17:16.41 | ibot | hi, jftsang |
| 17:16.59 | jftsang | what is the package for curses on Linux that I need for BZFlag? |
| 17:18.42 | JeffM | the dev one |
| 17:18.45 | JeffM | if you are building |
| 17:19.05 | jftsang | what's the name? |
| 17:19.14 | JeffM | depends on the distro |
| 17:19.19 | JeffM | what choices do you have? |
| 17:19.31 | jftsang | it doesn't present me with any choices |
| 17:19.43 | JeffM | what disro are you using? |
| 17:20.03 | jftsang | Ubuntu Hardy Herron |
| 17:20.15 | JeffM | run synaptic and search for curses |
| 17:20.23 | JeffM | it will show you the ones that are available |
| 17:21.12 | jftsang | there are a few libcurses-*-dev, so I install one of them? |
| 17:21.25 | Think_Differentl | i would install the latest libcurses-dev |
| 17:21.34 | JeffM | yeah is the * just a number? |
| 17:22.11 | jftsang | not necessarily |
| 17:22.35 | JeffM | give us an example |
| 17:22.40 | JeffM | we can't read your screen |
| 17:23.03 | Think_Differentl | I think you want libncurses5 and libncurses5-dev |
| 17:23.11 | JeffM | probably |
| 17:23.26 | JeffM | best to just pick the largest number, as I don't think they have changed anythign major |
| 17:23.29 | jftsang | ok |
| 17:23.53 | jftsang | except that I already have the packages that Think_Differentl named |
| 17:24.11 | JeffM | what is the error you get? |
| 17:24.41 | jftsang | BZFlag-2.0.11.20080517 with the following: |
| 17:24.41 | jftsang | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.41 | jftsang | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.41 | jftsang | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.41 | jftsang | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.03 | jftsang | last few lines of the output from configure |
| 17:25.05 | Think_Differentl | builds fine for me with libncurses5 & -dev |
| 17:25.12 | JeffM | you probably are missing other things |
| 17:25.17 | JeffM | is this a new install? |
| 17:25.22 | jftsang | new build, yes |
| 17:25.32 | JeffM | did you install the C++ compiler? |
| 17:26.05 | jftsang | I have automake, autoconf, autotools, libSDL and libcURL |
| 17:26.09 | JeffM | did you install the C++ compiler? |
| 17:26.32 | jftsang | I didn't install it; gcc was with the distro |
| 17:26.35 | Think_Differentl | you need g++ |
| 17:26.42 | JeffM | gcc is not the C++ compiler |
| 17:26.46 | JeffM | it is the C compiler |
| 17:26.54 | JeffM | yes you need g++ |
| 17:26.58 | jftsang | ok |
| 17:29.21 | jftsang | well, configure worked fine |
| 17:30.00 | JeffM | helps when it can compile the samples it uses to test :) |
| 17:30.12 | JeffM | all the basic distro tools are C not C++ |
| 17:30.20 | jftsang | ah ok |
| 17:30.20 | JeffM | so they only include gcc not g++ |
| 17:30.59 | jftsang | and as for plugins, do I just ./configure and make, unless otherwise stated? |
| 17:31.13 | JeffM | what version of BZ? |
| 17:31.38 | jftsang | 2.0.11 |
| 17:31.41 | jftsang | branch |
| 17:32.00 | JeffM | did you configigure with --enable_plugins and --enable_shared ? |
| 17:32.13 | jftsang | *sigh, reconfigures* |
| 17:32.25 | TD-Linux | also don't forget opengl headers |
| 17:32.30 | JeffM | then it'll build all the plugins automaticly |
| 17:38.27 | jftsang | um, is there a package for OpenGL? |
| 17:38.54 | TD-Linux | probably something like libmesa |
| 17:39.18 | JeffM | did configure tell you that GL was not found? |
| 17:39.28 | JeffM | or did it say bzflag client? |
| 17:39.36 | jftsang | it said bzflag client |
| 17:39.43 | JeffM | then you have the gl headers |
| 17:39.47 | JeffM | and are good to go |
| 17:39.59 | JeffM | they probalby got put in with SDL since it uses them too |
| 17:42.19 | jftsang | once the plugins are built, where are they found? the src is in /usr/local/src/bzflag |
| 17:45.05 | JeffM | did you do a make install? |
| 17:46.57 | jftsang | well, I shall |
| 17:48.24 | JeffM | that should copy them to some lib dir |
| 17:48.33 | JeffM | if not they are in hiden .lib dirs in each plugin IIRC |
| 17:48.46 | JeffM | goes to do his patriotic duty and blow 600$ of "stimuls" |
| 17:49.08 | spldart | hehe |
| 17:49.20 | jftsang | /usr/local/lib? |
| 17:49.21 | spldart | Your last 4 in your social are a low number like mine then |
| 17:49.28 | spldart | Just deposited mine |
| 17:58.45 | jftsang | ~bzfquery jftsang.servegame.com:5154 |
| 17:59.08 | jftsang | is that a "don't worry, everything is working fine"? |
| 18:02.05 | ruskie | yeah just nobody on ;) |
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| 18:19.16 | Constitution | any bzbb admins about? |
| 18:21.30 | spldart | Not I said the fly |
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| 19:14.20 | KTL | those flag resets. the idea is that the flags would get more evenly distributed right? |
| 19:14.33 | KTL | i was thinking about a self organizing map |
| 19:14.51 | KTL | those flags could move all the time by themselves |
| 19:15.32 | KTL | every so many seconds they could move so many units away, towards a more even distribution over the map |
| 19:16.29 | Constitution | which flag resets are you talking about? |
| 19:16.41 | Constitution | unless they're specified in zones, flags are supposed to spawn randomly |
| 19:16.57 | KTL | players asking for flag resets because they get the impression their current place is not right |
| 19:17.13 | KTL | yes, i got the idea to let them move by themselves, but slowly |
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| 19:17.34 | KTL | drifting around |
| 19:17.56 | Winny | so who in here can I sucke... I mean ask to do the IE 6 fixes in the drupal template? I'm stumped. |
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| 19:21.08 | spldart | 8-0 |
| 19:22.49 | Winny | once that's done it ready except for the sidebar stats |
| 19:22.55 | Winny | which can be done at a later date |
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| 20:02.10 | BulletCatcher | For KTL's situation it shouldn't be too hard to invent a limit to the time non-zoned flags will stay at rest. When the time (perhaps slightly randomized) expires, a flag would simply fly and be repositioned the usual way. I suspect that a patch to implement this would be welcome. |
| 20:04.03 | BulletCatcher | Set a really short timeout and the game could be "catch the flag". :-) |
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| 20:05.17 | Constitution | still no bzbb admins about? |
| 20:06.16 | Flash | well, I thought I was ready for my next test, but I've managed to break communications entires. |
| 20:06.19 | Flash | entirely |
| 20:06.27 | BulletCatcher | :-( |
| 20:06.31 | Flash | I can connect, but I can't enter/spawn |
| 20:06.39 | Winny | Constitution, why? |
| 20:06.43 | Flash | I have my server set for 10-sec idle kick, and it does ;-) |
| 20:06.45 | Winny | I think donny_baker was here a while ago |
| 20:06.58 | Constitution | I'm thinking we have an innappropriate image |
| 20:07.05 | Winny | ooh where :P |
| 20:08.07 | ruskie | where where |
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| 20:08.37 | Constitution | and there he is |
| 20:08.49 | Winny | Constitution, mention the devil and he appears ;) |
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| 20:11.54 | JeffM | so you call upon the powers of darkness when in need? |
| 20:12.33 | spldart | I was called 'el diablo' today |
| 20:20.18 | KTL | lol |
| 20:20.58 | KTL | how did you deserve it? :D |
| 20:23.19 | spldart | Some hispanic catholic chic @ wife's work named Flo |
| 20:23.40 | spldart | Something about my incident @ 3AM this morning involving lots of blood |
| 20:23.54 | Flash | was there a chicken involved? |
| 20:24.03 | Winny | ~Constitution++ |
| 20:24.06 | spldart | No.. but there was a goat or two |
| 20:24.19 | Flash | cabrillo-- |
| 20:24.44 | KTL | splashing goats with your tank in the morning? |
| 20:25.09 | spldart | Not quite.. I don't call it my tank |
| 20:25.53 | KTL | never sees any goats in belgium, no chance you bump into them |
| 20:27.43 | spldart | Me has 'inspector Perot' on the brain now |
| 20:28.30 | a_meteorite | ~bz20svn |
| 20:28.31 | ibot | methinks bz20svn is http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag |
| 20:31.34 | spldart | I stand corrected hercule poirot |
| 20:32.00 | spldart | ~KTL++ |
| 20:32.08 | KTL | woot that's the first time |
| 20:32.35 | spldart | You deserve it ;-) |
| 20:40.20 | Flash | yay. I got data flowing again.... |
| 20:40.50 | BulletCatcher | ~Flash++ |
| 21:29.46 | delusional | At mofo we use the cron plugin to send "/flag reset unused" every 15 minutes.. works very well, flags have a tendency to crowd into the corners |
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| 22:25.03 | Viza | hi, would anyone be able to reload the fox burrow server? |
| 22:25.10 | Viza | none of the teleporters work |
| 22:26.14 | whodaman- | Thumper_, ^^ |
| 22:26.22 | whodaman- | Although, maybe I can do it over the site |
| 22:27.16 | whodaman- | meh, gotta go |
| 22:27.28 | whodaman- | maybe donny_baker or some other Norang admin can help |
| 22:27.34 | Viza | ah np, thanks anyways |
| 22:28.42 | TD-Linux | Viza, hmm? |
| 22:28.52 | Viza | ? |
| 22:29.00 | spldart | Confirmed |
| 22:29.00 | TD-Linux | do you still want it restarted? |
| 22:29.05 | spldart | all transporters are dead |
| 22:29.14 | spldart | on foxburrow |
| 22:29.27 | spldart | a restart might be nice... |
| 22:29.37 | spldart | since that like my third favorite server evar |
| 22:29.41 | Viza | :) |
| 22:29.52 | spldart | loves a good rabbit chase |
| 22:29.57 | Viza | ditto |
| 22:30.09 | whodaman- | ok, hang on |
| 22:30.13 | whodaman- | lemme see if I can do this |
| 22:30.17 | spldart | meh |
| 22:30.20 | spldart | that's a norant isn't it |
| 22:30.27 | spldart | I can restart myself |
| 22:30.30 | TD-Linux | what is the server name? |
| 22:30.33 | Viza | bzflag2.norang.ca |
| 22:30.34 | TD-Linux | I'm already there spldart:) |
| 22:30.34 | whodaman- | on it |
| 22:30.34 | spldart | but I'm to intoxicated |
| 22:30.39 | whodaman- | I just did it |
| 22:30.41 | whodaman- | via the site |
| 22:30.41 | TD-Linux | ME FIRST |
| 22:30.49 | spldart | lOL |
| 22:30.49 | TD-Linux | grr I hate you whodaman- |
| 22:30.51 | whodaman- | did it disconnect? |
| 22:30.58 | Viza | nope |
| 22:31.00 | TD-Linux | I just found it... too late |
| 22:31.02 | whodaman- | thanks, TD-Linux |
| 22:31.03 | TD-Linux | LET ME CLICK |
| 22:31.07 | whodaman- | ok, I'm out |
| 22:31.08 | spldart | I always think "Touch Down, Linux" when I see your name |
| 22:31.15 | TD-Linux | should I restart it again? |
| 22:31.21 | TD-Linux | spldart, hah, I have football |
| 22:31.55 | Viza | it didn't seem to restart |
| 22:32.04 | TD-Linux | restart pending it says |
| 22:32.11 | Viza | ah |
| 22:32.11 | TD-Linux | it probably gives a warning or something |
| 22:33.51 | spldart | woah |
| 22:33.55 | spldart | it's not working |
| 22:33.57 | spldart | still |
| 22:33.59 | spldart | umm |
| 22:34.01 | spldart | epic fail |
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| 22:38.54 | Viza | :/ |
| 22:57.18 | Viza | so apparently someone loaded a new map with broken teleporters |
| 23:24.06 | Dr_Spaceman | has failed in his patriotic duty :( |
| 23:25.03 | Winny | you voted for bush? |
| 23:25.11 | Winny | booo... |
| 23:28.39 | Dr_Spaceman | I was unable to spend my 600$ like they wanted |
| 23:28.50 | Dr_Spaceman | all I was able to do was blow 19.99$ |
| 23:28.53 | Winny | hehe |
| 23:28.58 | L4m3r | send the rest to me |
| 23:29.00 | Winny | you could send the rest to me |
| 23:29.03 | Winny | bah L4m3r |
| 23:29.06 | L4m3r | it will stimulate my economy :) |
| 23:29.26 | Dr_Spaceman | Winny: sending it out of country is not the point |
| 23:29.28 | L4m3r | Winny: our dollars are worthless to you anyway :P |
| 23:29.36 | Winny | this is true :P |
| 23:30.32 | L4m3r | Dr_Spaceman: yeah, that's too bad, since a significant portion of people are probably just going to smoke that check :P |
| 23:30.45 | L4m3r | and guess where that money goes? |
| 23:30.50 | Dr_Spaceman | sadly |
| 23:31.00 | Dr_Spaceman | the us federal government |
| 23:31.18 | L4m3r | er, no, Mexico, generally |
| 23:31.30 | L4m3r | (I'm not talking about literally smoking the check...) |
| 23:31.42 | Dr_Spaceman | I know what you mean |
| 23:31.58 | Dr_Spaceman | and like you belive that the drug rings arn't fronts for the CIA.. pshh |
| 23:32.03 | L4m3r | but yeah, the whole thing is kind of dumb |
| 23:32.19 | L4m3r | people aren't just going to go out and spend when the economy is down |
| 23:32.30 | L4m3r | they're just going to pay off some credit card debt or save it |
| 23:32.42 | Dr_Spaceman | humans are supid |
| 23:32.46 | Dr_Spaceman | most can't manage debt |
| 23:32.52 | Dr_Spaceman | I'll bet a lot gets spent |
| 23:33.27 | Constitution | I should probably apply mine to my 40-year mortgage from when I bought my MacBook Pro |
| 23:33.43 | Dr_Spaceman | heh |
| 23:33.49 | Dr_Spaceman | thats' one week right? |
| 23:34.08 | Constitution | hm? :) |
| 23:34.24 | Dr_Spaceman | my goal is to get a Core 2 quad 9700 to replace this old 6000+ |
| 23:34.54 | Dr_Spaceman | sorry 6700 |
| 23:34.59 | Dr_Spaceman | stupid numbers |
| 23:37.20 | Mets | tax refunds I gather? |
| 23:37.28 | Mets | err rebates |
| 23:37.32 | Dr_Spaceman | stimuli |
| 23:37.47 | Mets | well better than the alternative |
| 23:46.39 | L4m3r | I'm still claimed as a dependent, so I don't get anything :( |
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| 23:48.05 | Mets | you can get something even ad a dependent, just depends on if you file your own tax return or not |
| 23:48.18 | Mets | *even if your |
| 23:51.27 | think_tank | Mets, wrong |
| 23:51.43 | think_tank | if someone else can claim u on their return, you are NOT eligible for a stimulus payment |
| 23:51.52 | think_tank | regardless of if u file ur own return or not |
| 23:52.11 | think_tank | the mere ability for another person being able to claim you as a dependent automatically disqualifies you |
| 23:55.07 | Dr_Spaceman | his parents get more on there for him |
| 23:56.34 | think_tank | yes |
| 23:56.40 | think_tank | *if* they claim him |
| 23:56.51 | think_tank | which logically one would... |
| 23:57.08 | Dr_Spaceman | if they don't then he's not a dependent, and is elegible for his own ;) |
| 23:57.16 | think_tank | nope |
| 23:57.32 | think_tank | if they don't claim him, that does not change his dependency status. and we should probably move this to #bzchat ;) |
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