| 00:07.21 | spldart | Trying to get pogo on but she's in teh middle of something.. Perhaps she will ping back in a little bit |
| 00:11.13 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03sammy * r1078 10/trunk/msvc/Makefile.am: * Synchronise msvc/Makefile.am with its directory contents. |
| 00:19.07 | brlcad | spldart: haha, that's awesome |
| 00:19.20 | brlcad | wonders what's holding the turret up |
| 00:20.16 | spldart | Best not to wonder to much ;-) |
| 00:20.40 | spldart | is waiting for the ham and vegatables to be done so he can have a piece of cake |
| 00:22.27 | brlcad | wonders if today is the 'happy' day |
| 00:23.30 | spldart | hehe |
| 00:23.42 | brlcad | happy day! |
| 00:23.53 | spldart | Mr..... |
| 00:24.02 | brlcad | yay for still being alive |
| 00:24.17 | spldart | ? |
| 00:24.32 | brlcad | birthday? |
| 00:24.39 | spldart | Oh! No |
| 00:24.42 | brlcad | heh |
| 00:24.57 | brlcad | so a different happy day :) |
| 00:25.02 | spldart | She made the cake for the sake of makint it :) |
| 00:25.12 | brlcad | awesome |
| 00:25.40 | spldart | I know right? I had a rought day @ work today. It was nice to come home to. |
| 00:28.46 | spldart | I stand corrected.. The wife says 2 days ago was our 8 year 'doin it' anniversary... But she says that's not why she made the cake. |
| 00:30.25 | JeffM2501 | then happy cake day |
| 00:30.46 | spldart | :~) |
| 00:31.32 | spldart | sry for the OT :-( The cake was just too kew |
| 00:32.03 | Erroneous | a BZ cake is SO not OT :) |
| 00:32.57 | Winny | nanananana batman |
| 00:33.06 | spldart | LOL |
| 00:33.10 | spldart | I'm on the same channel |
| 00:35.41 | Constitution | spldart: you chat on IRC while eating? :O |
| 00:35.55 | Winny | Constitution, you don't? :O |
| 00:36.17 | Constitution | that's different... I'm a bachelor ;) |
| 00:37.56 | Winny | spldart: does pogo have any sisters? :P |
| 00:38.07 | L4m3r | lol |
| 00:40.01 | spldart | I chat on irc while eating sometimes, pogo does not have any sisters but she has a panzy brother, etc etc |
| 00:41.06 | Winny | hehe |
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| 00:50.28 | awilcox | spldart: speaking of pogo where is she? if she's well enough to bake you an AWESOME bzcake, she's well enough to ping me :p |
| 00:56.47 | spldart | :( She says she's exhausted from baking me an awesome cake and stuff but she's gonna take rest now and will ping you later.... That means she will crash for the night.. sry :-( |
| 00:57.19 | spldart | PS: I'm prodding her along as much as I can |
| 00:57.39 | L4m3r | maybe if you're nice she'll make you an Overlord cake tomorrow |
| 00:57.53 | L4m3r | too bad they don't make, like, gummy tanks :P |
| 00:57.56 | spldart | LMAO!!!! |
| 00:58.32 | spldart | DUDE!!! A bunch of red and green gummy tanks on a giant overlord map cake would be incredible |
| 00:58.34 | spldart | BTW |
| 00:58.39 | awilcox | haha |
| 00:58.43 | spldart | BZFLAG.store |
| 00:58.49 | L4m3r | maybe a Passion cake would be easier |
| 00:58.52 | spldart | and gummy tank candy |
| 00:58.56 | L4m3r | or Pillbox :P |
| 01:00.02 | spldart | Dude.. bzflag store and tank gummy's.. I wonder if you can make custom candy's outta gummies |
| 01:00.27 | spldart | But I imagein JeffM would need special liscensing to be distributing candies |
| 01:00.29 | spldart | Hrm |
| 01:00.36 | L4m3r | probably not easily (easily as in worth the trouble) |
| 01:00.42 | spldart | Maybe if the candies were shipped from the candy maker |
| 01:01.00 | awilcox | spldart meant: But I imagine JeffM would need special licensing to be distributing candies |
| 01:01.13 | spldart | puts his hear to the echo |
| 01:02.29 | brlcad | spldart: tell her I'm going to have to go get some oreos and doritos tonight because of her |
| 01:03.06 | spldart | She says "cool. I'm inspiring others!" :) |
| 01:03.15 | spldart | She sounds tired :( |
| 01:03.34 | awilcox | spldart: be a mediator and talk for me :P |
| 01:03.35 | L4m3r | mmmm.... oreos.... |
| 01:03.36 | brlcad | she deserves a foot massage for the cake ;) bzflag-style (steamroller) |
| 01:03.46 | spldart | LOL |
| 01:03.51 | spldart | I got a roller massager too |
| 01:04.08 | awilcox | gives spldart SR |
| 01:04.38 | spldart | I'm sorry.. I've apparently REALLY OT'd it up in here |
| 01:04.54 | awilcox | spldart: steamroller massage isn't ot! |
| 01:06.36 | brlcad | a bzflag cake |
| 01:06.38 | brlcad | offtopic? |
| 01:06.40 | brlcad | pfft. |
| 01:08.12 | awilcox | spldart: tell pogo to not bake you a cake tomorrow :p |
| 01:12.48 | spldart | meh.. flash went off and oversaturated http://70.240.240.206:8080/slice.jpg |
| 01:13.24 | awilcox | heh |
| 01:13.39 | me1 | For a second it looked all white, then I noticed it didn't load yet. :P |
| 01:13.59 | spldart | sry.. work dsl is slow |
| 01:14.15 | spldart | needs to set up apache here @ home too |
| 01:14.43 | me1 | I read oversaturated and flash and thought "wow, thats one bright flash there" |
| 01:15.08 | awilcox | I read that and thought it was gonna be a picture of Flash, fattened from eating the entire cake :P |
| 01:16.33 | spldart | emails chocolate cake in shape of tank to everyone who isn't blocking my spam |
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| 01:29.34 | spldart | Woo Hoo |
| 01:29.55 | spldart | VC8 Debug Win32 ========== Build: 6 succeeded, 0 failed, 4 up-to-date, 0 skipped ========== |
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| 01:39.19 | awilcox | spldart: I know, I got 7.1 working last night :) |
| 01:39.54 | awilcox | not many people to play on trunk though :( |
| 01:45.03 | spldart | Having some problems in linux though |
| 01:46.17 | spldart | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m4103e44a |
| 01:51.30 | Constitution | did you re-autogen and re-configure? |
| 01:52.16 | spldart | No.. no new .am's |
| 01:52.23 | spldart | I can though.. gimme a minute |
| 01:52.37 | spldart | I did re autogen reconfiugre this morn |
| 01:53.35 | spldart | really needs to OC the fsb on his linux test rig |
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| 01:58.07 | spldart | Hrm.. getting freetype configure errors |
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| 02:03.00 | spldart | Ok.. apt isn't covering me so far |
| 02:03.44 | spldart | how do I cover freetype2 dependency with apt when sources.list is covering free non-free and contrib |
| 02:03.53 | spldart | deb etch |
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| 02:26.58 | spldart | does happy dance though channel emulating Gir |
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| 02:39.51 | brlcad | howdy Quol |
| 02:40.10 | Quol | hey brlcad :) |
| 02:40.13 | Quol | how are ya? |
| 02:40.18 | brlcad | pretty good! |
| 02:40.41 | Quol | been a little while since we had one of our late night talks...what's new? |
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| 02:41.56 | brlcad | oh, not a whole lot different |
| 02:42.00 | brlcad | lots and lots of coding |
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| 02:42.22 | brlcad | gsoc fun |
| 02:42.25 | brlcad | about to start up |
| 02:53.31 | spldart | dreads |
| 02:54.35 | brlcad | you have a cake, you're not allowed to dread :) |
| 02:54.51 | spldart | Ok.. You got me there. I'll dread tomorrow. |
| 02:55.32 | Flash | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:55.45 | spldart | hehehe |
| 02:55.54 | Flash | darn. jeff missed it |
| 02:56.01 | spldart | LOLx |
| 02:56.03 | spldart | z |
| 02:56.16 | Flash | but I did make the channel |
| 02:56.32 | spldart | yes yah did |
| 02:57.24 | spldart | enjoys the pun that Jeff missed |
| 02:57.33 | spldart | even if he wouldn't have appreciated |
| 02:58.04 | spldart | Not to say he wouldn't have |
| 03:06.15 | spldart | Now he's missed it |
| 03:06.23 | spldart | or ignored it |
| 03:07.25 | spldart | sits.. for a long time, waiting for the sun to burn out. |
| 03:08.16 | Flash | feeds spldart's bz-chi |
| 03:08.30 | spldart | chi? |
| 03:08.50 | spldart | ooOOoo BZ_Fung-shwei |
| 03:09.20 | Flash | is still ##bzmeditation-ing |
| 03:10.19 | spldart | ##bzmeditation |
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| 03:18.33 | awilcox | ~1982-18 |
| 03:18.34 | ibot | 1964 |
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| 04:04.30 | KillAssFace | hello? |
| 04:04.50 | KillAssFace | 'ello? |
| 04:05.20 | KillAssFace | I'm not very knowledgeable about IRC |
| 04:05.30 | KillAssFace | I'm concerned my messages are not getting through |
| 04:05.38 | KillAssFace | as I'm receiving no responses |
| 04:05.50 | Flash | ~ask |
| 04:05.50 | ibot | ask is, like, Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 04:06.23 | KillAssFace | ~ask |
| 04:06.23 | ibot | ask is probably Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 04:06.47 | KillAssFace | How winderful |
| 04:07.05 | KillAssFace | I'm not here to ask any particular question |
| 04:07.09 | KillAssFace | about the game |
| 04:07.13 | KillAssFace | or anything else |
| 04:07.53 | KillAssFace | BZFlag is a winderful game |
| 04:08.06 | KillAssFace | Do you guys agree y/n |
| 04:08.39 | KillAssFace | If I could take one thing on to a desert island it would be BZ |
| 04:08.57 | KillAssFace | That, or a Teddy bear |
| 04:10.08 | KillAssFace | ~penis |
| 04:10.09 | ibot | rumour has it, penis is the DESTROYER of worlds |
| 04:10.19 | KillAssFace | ~fuck |
| 04:10.20 | ibot | Now where did I put the lube...? Eh, no matter, dry it is tonight! |
| 04:10.30 | KillAssFace | ~cunt |
| 04:10.37 | KillAssFace | ~vagina |
| 04:10.37 | ibot | well, vagina is something that i dont have but i like to suck, SUCK PUSSY YEAH!!! |
| 04:10.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
| 04:10.42 | *** kick/#bzflag [KillAssFace!i=DTRemena@about/essy/CrazyCoder/DTRemenak] by DTRemenak (DTRemenak) |
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| 04:11.15 | KillAssFace | You should kick 'ibot' |
| 04:11.20 | KillAssFace | too |
| 04:11.40 | KillAssFace | was saying lewder things than I |
| 04:11.51 | DTRemenak | ibot does nothing that you don't ask her to |
| 04:12.20 | KillAssFace | Why is it loaded with those things in the first place |
| 04:13.01 | brlcad | because anyone can load it with any factoid |
| 04:13.16 | KillAssFace | That's winderful |
| 04:13.41 | brlcad | why you feel compelled to publicly probe for those words is what's rediculous, just pm the bot |
| 04:13.49 | KillAssFace | What a very marvellous concept |
| 04:14.18 | KillAssFace | ~la, la, la |
| 04:14.28 | brlcad | KillAssFace: enough messing with the bot |
| 04:14.34 | brlcad | take it to #botpark |
| 04:14.50 | KillAssFace | Execute the bot |
| 04:15.03 | KillAssFace | for its unbridled insolence |
| 04:15.21 | KillAssFace | Get it? Execute? Haaaaaaa |
| 04:15.31 | KillAssFace | ha, ha-ha |
| 04:15.49 | KillAssFace | What's going down in this thing |
| 04:15.54 | KillAssFace | What of interest |
| 04:16.20 | brlcad | lingers over +b |
| 04:16.27 | KillAssFace | Hey, whoa |
| 04:16.34 | KillAssFace | I'm trying to be personable |
| 04:16.42 | brlcad | hence lingering |
| 04:16.57 | KillAssFace | Please, give me a chance! |
| 04:17.06 | KillAssFace | Ohhhhhh, please! |
| 04:17.52 | KillAssFace | Did you misplace one vowel backwards on purpose? |
| 04:18.00 | KillAssFace | Like I did |
| 04:18.27 | KillAssFace | o->i in 'wonderful', i->e in 'ridiculous' |
| 04:18.36 | KillAssFace | a - e - i - o - u |
| 04:18.39 | brlcad | if you're bored, there are plenty of other (more fun and constructive) things you could be doing right now |
| 04:18.46 | KillAssFace | But did you? |
| 04:18.49 | JeffM | linger? |
| 04:18.51 | brlcad | useless chatter about absolutely nothing will get you kicked out |
| 04:18.51 | JeffM | why? |
| 04:18.53 | KillAssFace | This is fascinating |
| 04:19.01 | JeffM | you are far too nice |
| 04:19.10 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 04:19.13 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b KillAssFace!*@*] by brlcad |
| 04:19.21 | brlcad | beats him to it |
| 04:19.29 | *** kick/#bzflag [KillAssFace!n=Jeff@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
| 04:19.34 | brlcad | aw |
| 04:19.37 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
| 04:19.49 | brlcad | likes to see how long they hang around talking to themselves not realizing they're being filtered |
| 04:20.13 | JeffM2501 | it's simple to do that in pm, then it dosn't clutter |
| 04:20.26 | brlcad | hm? |
| 04:20.27 | JeffM2501 | and lasts a LOT longer |
| 04:20.33 | JeffM2501 | just get em talking in a pm |
| 04:20.41 | brlcad | no, I meant once they're +b'd |
| 04:20.46 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 04:20.57 | JeffM2501 | usulay it's after the first one, the client tells em |
| 04:21.08 | brlcad | most clients will still send and it looks like they're chatting to them |
| 04:21.29 | brlcad | depends on the client, some are obvious, some shove the notification in some other hidden window |
| 04:22.10 | brlcad | makes them leave on thier own volition too |
| 04:22.38 | JeffM2501 | I prefer to keep em hanging around in PM for ages, then they ain't trying other stuff ;) |
| 04:23.20 | brlcad | you can still do that regardless :) |
| 04:24.40 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b KillAssFace!*@*] by brlcad |
| 04:26.19 | awilcox | oh yes THATS a nick that needs to come on #bzflag :p |
| 04:26.36 | brlcad | leave his beast of burden alone |
| 04:34.44 | blast007 | weeeee, I always miss all the fun |
| 04:51.36 | BulletCatcher | That was Coogle, by the way. |
| 04:52.08 | blast007 | yup |
| 04:53.03 | BulletCatcher | brlcad: Are you aware that GNU Emacs 22 includes an IRC client? |
| 04:58.20 | AAA_awright | Wow, did gdb just segfault?!? O.o |
| 04:58.43 | Lukstr | AAA_awright: good job |
| 05:00.09 | AAA_awright | And I can reproduce it too |
| 05:00.36 | AAA_awright | This should turn out interesting... gdb gdb... |
| 05:00.38 | Lukstr | maybe your code is overwriting gdb |
| 05:00.53 | Lukstr | that is actually a good idea haha |
| 05:01.40 | AAA_awright | No debugging symbols are shipped with it... and I don't feel like compiling it from source |
| 05:03.39 | blast007 | heh |
| 05:04.00 | Lukstr | mmm fluxbox |
| 05:04.11 | AAA_awright | It still shows the call stack... 36 entries in it |
| 05:05.08 | AAA_awright | and my program is still running in the foreground at the same time |
| 05:06.37 | AAA_awright | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/1010132 not that it matters... |
| 05:07.22 | Flash | BulletCatcher: do you know how to configure it? |
| 05:07.31 | Flash | there's like NO documentation |
| 05:07.41 | BulletCatcher | configure what? |
| 05:07.51 | Flash | zenirc in XEmacs |
| 05:08.14 | BulletCatcher | I use rcirc in GNU Emacs. It probably isn't the same thing. |
| 05:08.45 | Flash | nope, it's not the same |
| 05:09.06 | BulletCatcher | Then you'll have to use the source. Sorry. |
| 05:11.32 | BulletCatcher | Any new ideas before I start looking at your patches again, Flash? I'm going to start by applying just the older one and see how that goes. |
| 05:17.28 | Flash | I'm wondering if it is a subtle OS thing |
| 05:20.37 | brlcad | BulletCatcher: yep |
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| 05:26.07 | BulletCatcher | brlcad: Then all you need to do to get the perfect IRC client is to adjust some LISP code a little bit. ;-) |
| 05:32.13 | a_meteorite | why on earth does a text editor include IRC? |
| 05:33.11 | a_meteorite | that's the thing that bugs me about emacs... http://xkcd.com/378/ |
| 05:33.39 | JeffM2501 | the fact that people make stick figure commics about it? |
| 05:34.09 | a_meteorite | no, one preposterous example of a feature of emacs |
| 05:34.19 | JeffM2501 | ummmm.. that would be fiction |
| 05:34.20 | a_meteorite | which, if possible, I would not be surprised to see it included |
| 05:34.27 | a_meteorite | thus a "preposterous" |
| 05:34.30 | a_meteorite | *example |
| 05:34.39 | JeffM2501 | not all fiction is preposterous |
| 05:34.53 | a_meteorite | true that |
| 05:35.22 | brlcad | a_meteorite: nobody makes you use or even need to know about the other 'features' |
| 05:35.29 | BulletCatcher | Emacs includes a complete LISP programming environment (in which most of Emacs is itself written). Everything else is the result of bored or otherwise motivated programmers. |
| 05:35.56 | a_meteorite | very bored :) |
| 05:36.00 | a_meteorite | then again, it wouldn't be the first time innovation has come because of boredom |
| 05:36.31 | brlcad | it was never originally designed as a "text editor", that's just one of it's common functions that people associate with it |
| 05:36.55 | brlcad | it was designed as an "editor" (for anything), hence editing macros |
| 05:37.17 | BulletCatcher | misses the "overflowing kitchen sink" Emacs icon |
| 05:37.37 | a_meteorite | from the horse's mouth "GNU Emacs is an extensible, customizable text editor" |
| 05:37.44 | brlcad | edits his tetris score |
| 05:37.48 | a_meteorite | hehe.. |
| 05:38.05 | brlcad | a_meteorite: that's just the byline now |
| 05:38.15 | brlcad | to explain it to the masses |
| 05:38.52 | a_meteorite | ok, well, I wasn't around when emacs was version 1 or 2 or whatever... extensible framework would probably have better described it then? |
| 05:38.56 | brlcad | and that's not a false statement regardless, it is that .. and a lot of other things |
| 05:39.41 | brlcad | it's always been an "extensible framework" .. that doesn't really mean much by itself without some context or other detail |
| 05:39.47 | a_meteorite | that's amazing, first version was released in 1976! |
| 05:40.41 | a_meteorite | well, not necessarily released, but written in 1976. wikipedia does not make the distinction. |
| 05:41.10 | brlcad | yeah, but they didn't start using revision control till '85 :) at least not preserved |
| 05:41.24 | a_meteorite | props to emacs then, bzflag's code is from the early 90s and is a mess... :) |
| 05:41.44 | brlcad | spreads the bragging rights: http://www.ohloh.net/blog/worlds_oldest_source_code_repositories |
| 05:43.44 | a_meteorite | it's not coincidence that your name is the same as the project, brlcad? |
| 05:43.54 | brlcad | nope |
| 05:44.10 | a_meteorite | you were the maintainer of it way back then? |
| 05:44.42 | brlcad | oh hell no, but I am the maintainer now |
| 05:44.49 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 05:44.58 | brlcad | it was started by mike muuss, brilliant guy, author of 'ping' |
| 05:45.13 | brlcad | back circa '79 |
| 05:45.29 | a_meteorite | interesting |
| 05:45.37 | brlcad | I was probably just learning to walk or talk or something |
| 05:45.45 | BulletCatcher | and the first thing they modeled was ... |
| 05:45.56 | a_meteorite | a teapot! |
| 05:45.57 | brlcad | BulletCatcher: the M1 tank |
| 05:46.08 | a_meteorite | well that explains things :) |
| 05:46.11 | BulletCatcher | and there's the BZFlag tie-in! |
| 05:46.50 | brlcad | actually it was the XM-1 tank, a prototype for the abrams |
| 05:47.51 | brlcad | but it was the very first time anyone had ever seen the whole vehicle on a computer before |
| 05:48.57 | brlcad | started in a couple nights on a dare/challenge that he couldn't display it all (your cell phone has more computing power than what he had to work with) |
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| 05:49.40 | Ashvala | Hello |
| 05:50.01 | Ashvala | BenjaminSisko here |
| 05:50.27 | brlcad | looks more like Ashvala than BenjaminSisko to me |
| 05:50.46 | Ashvala | Actually... My Callsign on BZflag is BenjaminSisko |
| 05:50.57 | Ashvala | My real name is Ashvala |
| 05:51.02 | brlcad | is shocked :) |
| 05:51.05 | Ashvala | that is all |
| 05:51.35 | Ashvala | brlclad... You admin? |
| 05:51.49 | brlcad | too many ell's there bub |
| 05:51.56 | *** join/#bzflag noyb (n=noyb@nat/sun/x-ddb9f6b684b27ced) |
| 05:51.58 | brlcad | but yes, at least I play one on tv sometimes |
| 05:53.12 | a_meteorite | Ashvala... pretty name |
| 05:53.30 | brlcad | Ashvala: pay no mind to me, I'm just being goofy :) |
| 05:53.36 | a_meteorite | in no offense if you're a guy or anything |
| 05:53.49 | brlcad | a_meteorite: your names not nearly as pretty |
| 05:54.04 | a_meteorite | I realize that, my name represents destructions by meteorite :\ |
| 05:54.19 | brlcad | hm |
| 05:54.22 | a_meteorite | Daniel sounds a lot better :) |
| 05:54.35 | a_meteorite | and I can't type tonight either, pay no mind to my mistakes |
| 05:54.49 | Ashvala | Djack is here? |
| 05:55.04 | a_meteorite | Djack as in daniel jackson? |
| 05:55.08 | Ashvala | Yeas |
| 05:55.15 | a_meteorite | no |
| 05:55.25 | Ashvala | Yonu? |
| 05:55.27 | brlcad | i always just thought of it like a lonely quiet chunk of debris drifting aimlessly through the dead voids of space |
| 05:55.28 | a_meteorite | but I have him currently as a paused frame in VLC |
| 05:55.43 | Ashvala | LOL |
| 05:55.48 | brlcad | ~seen daniel_jackson |
| 05:55.49 | ibot | daniel_jackson <n=bsanford@cpe-76-88-96-237.san.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 33d 20h 9m 9s ago, saying: 'cya'. |
| 05:55.56 | a_meteorite | brlcad: that's just as depressing |
| 05:56.03 | Ashvala | Wow |
| 05:56.07 | a_meteorite | Ashvala: I'm on a Stargate SG-1 marathon |
| 05:56.17 | Ashvala | Ok |
| 05:56.28 | Ashvala | I am on My defiant |
| 05:56.32 | Ashvala | With no wARP |
| 05:57.12 | Ashvala | ~seen Yonu |
| 05:57.12 | ibot | i haven't seen 'yonu', Ashvala |
| 05:57.25 | Ashvala | Ah Damn YOU |
| 05:57.38 | Ashvala | ~seen LtKirby-2007 |
| 05:57.39 | ibot | i haven't seen 'ltkirby-2007', Ashvala |
| 05:57.44 | Ashvala | Suck |
| 05:58.00 | Ashvala | Are all of you here Admins? |
| 05:58.06 | brlcad | Ashvala: you can "/msg ibot seen name" to look up names in private too |
| 05:58.32 | brlcad | no, not everyone is an admin |
| 05:58.42 | Ashvala | who is? |
| 05:58.50 | brlcad | the ones with an @ |
| 05:58.59 | brlcad | and some others that are in hiding |
| 05:58.59 | Ashvala | I KNOW THAT!!! |
| 05:59.07 | brlcad | then wtf are you asking for? |
| 05:59.09 | Ashvala | they do /hideadmin |
| 05:59.18 | Ashvala | Sean... I know your name! |
| 05:59.24 | brlcad | big surprise |
| 05:59.32 | Ashvala | I WANT TO KNOW WHO THE FUCK IS AN ADMIN HERE |
| 05:59.37 | brlcad | and I live in maryland, like long walks on the beach, sushi, ... |
| 05:59.45 | brlcad | Ashvala: watch your language please |
| 05:59.48 | Ashvala | Lovely |
| 05:59.50 | brlcad | that's not allowed here |
| 05:59.50 | Ashvala | Ok |
| 05:59.58 | Ashvala | <brlcad> then wtf are you asking for? |
| 06:00.05 | Ashvala | you too! |
| 06:00.08 | Ashvala | ;) |
| 06:00.09 | brlcad | that's quite different |
| 06:00.16 | Ashvala | Yea |
| 06:00.26 | Ashvala | Ok Never Mins |
| 06:00.28 | Ashvala | *Mind |
| 06:00.46 | Ashvala | Sean... Do you know Yonu? |
| 06:00.59 | brlcad | not that I'm aware of |
| 06:01.21 | a_meteorite | neither do I |
| 06:01.30 | a_meteorite | not everyone who plays bzflag uses this channel |
| 06:01.37 | a_meteorite | or even uses the same username |
| 06:01.37 | Ashvala | Hola... Julio lLamo Ashvala |
| 06:01.52 | Ashvala | I DONT USE THE SAME USERNAME(example |
| 06:01.58 | a_meteorite | no need to yell |
| 06:02.09 | ruskie | *yawn* |
| 06:02.09 | Ashvala | Any Indians any of you came across recently? |
| 06:02.15 | Ashvala | *Yawn* |
| 06:02.17 | ruskie | keep the noise down.. I just woke up... |
| 06:02.23 | Ashvala | *goodmorning* |
| 06:02.27 | a_meteorite | ruskie: morning, ate breakfast yet? |
| 06:02.28 | Ashvala | Get to bed |
| 06:02.35 | ruskie | I don't do breakfast... |
| 06:02.44 | ruskie | can't stomach it... |
| 06:02.44 | a_meteorite | studies agree that it is good for you :) |
| 06:02.49 | a_meteorite | oh, heh |
| 06:02.51 | ruskie | atleast for another 2 hours or so |
| 06:02.55 | Saturos | breakfast.. yummy |
| 06:03.00 | Ashvala | Ooooooooh |
| 06:03.25 | Saturos | but got to watch that regensis episode before |
| 06:03.27 | ruskie | I will have some cocoa but beyond that nothing else really... |
| 06:03.46 | Ashvala | I need to watch STAR TREK Ds9 |
| 06:03.56 | Ashvala | ~shout |
| 06:03.57 | ibot | ACTION screams NOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooOOOOoooooOOOOooo!!!1!!11!!! |
| 06:04.18 | Ashvala | AH.... Nice try iBot |
| 06:04.53 | Ashvala | Hey dan Outmin.... |
| 06:06.00 | a_meteorite | yes? |
| 06:06.20 | Ashvala | How Waz that man... I found your name |
| 06:06.55 | brlcad | Ashvala: running whois on IRC is no secret |
| 06:06.57 | Ashvala | Apparently I am the only INDIAN here! |
| 06:07.04 | Ashvala | LOL |
| 06:07.28 | Ashvala | I am the ONLY indian to BZflag! |
| 06:07.32 | brlcad | jeez |
| 06:07.35 | brlcad | cut it out |
| 06:07.36 | blast007 | you're from Indiana? |
| 06:07.38 | brlcad | nobody cares |
| 06:07.40 | brlcad | :) |
| 06:07.59 | brlcad | and stats would probably indicate otherwise |
| 06:08.09 | Ashvala | INDIA! |
| 06:08.11 | BulletCatcher | No, no. Someone from Indiana is a Hoosier. |
| 06:09.10 | brlcad | they're probably just to embarrased by your spectacle to be associated :) |
| 06:09.24 | brlcad | BulletCatcher: probably a lot of folks :) |
| 06:09.26 | Ashvala | I am the ONLY indian from India in South Asia to play BZflag |
| 06:09.35 | blast007 | Ashvala: Unlikely |
| 06:09.45 | brlcad | Ashvala: last warning dude, seriously .. give it a rest |
| 06:09.51 | Lukstr | any fluxbox users here? |
| 06:10.04 | blast007 | Lukstr: I used to be... does that count? ;) |
| 06:10.09 | ruskie | too |
| 06:10.18 | Lukstr | close enough |
| 06:10.24 | Ashvala | Hey Blast |
| 06:10.28 | Ashvala | I Am Indian |
| 06:10.32 | Ashvala | Born Indian |
| 06:10.36 | brlcad | likes fluxbox, used to be a bit blackbox fan prior |
| 06:10.37 | Ashvala | Living INdian |
| 06:10.41 | ruskie | mmm ignore is so nice... |
| 06:10.42 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b Ashvala!*@*] by brlcad |
| 06:10.49 | brlcad | and now voiceless Ashvala |
| 06:11.03 | Lukstr | I just switched to it as my primary WM, any suggestions or pointers? |
| 06:11.24 | Lukstr | I'm aiming for a fairly light-weight X experience :P |
| 06:11.47 | Saturos | xfce is cool.. did you try it? |
| 06:12.04 | ruskie | *shrug* fvwm here now and that's light-weight :) |
| 06:12.12 | Lukstr | nay, fluxbux I like |
| 06:12.19 | a_meteorite | xfce is lightweight and looks good :) |
| 06:12.33 | a_meteorite | all in the eye of the beholder though, and how lightweight one wants to go |
| 06:12.33 | Lukstr | I don't care about looks :P |
| 06:12.48 | Lukstr | the less work my fan-less TNT2 has to do... |
| 06:12.53 | a_meteorite | oh boy.. |
| 06:13.01 | Lukstr | the longer it lives |
| 06:13.04 | blast007 | Lukstr: buy a new fan :P |
| 06:13.13 | Lukstr | blast007: I can't be bothered to care :P |
| 06:13.14 | blast007 | the WM really isn't what's going to make it run cooler |
| 06:13.18 | Lukstr | I could buy a new video card for the price of the fan |
| 06:13.22 | blast007 | heh |
| 06:13.25 | blast007 | grue |
| 06:13.27 | blast007 | true* |
| 06:13.32 | Lukstr | grue! |
| 06:13.35 | Lukstr | hides |
| 06:13.43 | blast007 | I grue a shrew |
| 06:14.14 | BulletCatcher | quickly walks back into a lighted room to avoid being eaten by a grue |
| 06:14.32 | brlcad | Lukstr: it's about as lightweight functional as you can get (and not looking horrible).. flux, pwm, and a couple others |
| 06:14.35 | *** topic/#bzflag by bier -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || 2.0.10 is the latest public release || GSoC 2008, mentor blog at /topichttp://tanks4code.blogspot.com || Congratulations GSoC participants: http://code.google.com/soc/2008/bzflag/about.html || Students should add their projects to the wiki for review |
| 06:14.38 | blast007 | hah, that is something real.. |
| 06:14.49 | bier | oups - sorrx |
| 06:14.51 | blast007 | well, by real, I mean, fictional |
| 06:14.56 | bier | sorry |
| 06:15.02 | Lukstr | you've never heard of a grue? |
| 06:15.05 | ruskie | hmm no +t on the chan... |
| 06:15.06 | blast007 | nope |
| 06:15.24 | brlcad | ruskie: never has been (intentionally) |
| 06:15.28 | ruskie | ahh |
| 06:15.40 | ruskie | does ibot atleast track the topics? |
| 06:15.43 | brlcad | if someone abuses it, they're out |
| 06:16.12 | Lukstr | I wish topic changes were diffs only :( |
| 06:16.16 | Lukstr | I can never find what changed |
| 06:16.18 | blast007 | heh |
| 06:16.20 | bier | i typed /topic in the topic bar of xchat... now there is a /topic somewhere in the topic, i guess :) |
| 06:16.32 | brlcad | the topic changes are in the log, but no explicit tracking iirc (could be wrong) |
| 06:16.33 | ruskie | Lukstr, there's a script for irssi that does something like it... |
| 06:16.42 | Lukstr | ruskie: nevar!1 |
| 06:16.50 | blast007 | irssi ftw |
| 06:16.50 | Lukstr | ah |
| 06:16.51 | Lukstr | I see it |
| 06:16.54 | ruskie | nthere's topichistory |
| 06:16.56 | blast007 | has /topichistory |
| 06:17.00 | blast007 | hehe :) |
| 06:17.07 | bier | here it is |
| 06:17.08 | bier | mentor blog at /topichttp://tanks4code.blogspot.com || |
| 06:17.11 | *** topic/#bzflag by Lukstr -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || 2.0.10 is the latest public release || GSoC 2008, mentor blog at http://tanks4code.blogspot.com || Congratulations GSoC participants: http://code.google.com/soc/2008/bzflag/about.html || Students should add their projects to the wiki for review |
| 06:17.50 | ruskie | of course no diffs directly... and only captures when one changes not on-join |
| 06:18.14 | Lukstr | I'm running Xming on my XP box |
| 06:18.24 | Lukstr | I'm a dirty windows user |
| 06:19.05 | ruskie | when I need something on windows I borrow a box at work(a backup craptop or somu such since I run gnu/linux at work as well) and use that :) |
| 06:20.03 | Lukstr | when I need something on linux I forward X :) |
| 06:26.17 | Lukstr | well |
| 06:26.20 | Lukstr | I must get the sleep. |
| 06:26.49 | BulletCatcher | nighty night |
| 06:26.57 | Lukstr | more of learning fluxbox and readying for hard core coding and conception of libbzw tomorrow |
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| 06:30.03 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b Ashvala!*@*] by brlcad |
| 06:31.13 | Ashvala | Hello |
| 06:31.22 | Ashvala | Ah... I am finally heard |
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| 07:17.19 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03sammy * r1079 10/trunk/demo/ (c-demo.c simple.cpp): |
| 07:17.19 | CIA-33 | FTGL: * In the C++ demo, show that FTFont itself can be directly derived, not |
| 07:17.19 | CIA-33 | FTGL: only its subclasses. |
| 07:17.19 | CIA-33 | FTGL: * Minor changes to the C demo to reduce the differences with the C++ version. |
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| 07:29.17 | Ashvala | Hello |
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| 07:50.10 | BulletCatcher | Flash: Your cleanup SF patch 1956498 seems to be fine by itself. |
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| 07:50.34 | BulletCatcher | But when I add 1957744 I get the same hang in bzfs. |
| 07:51.21 | BulletCatcher | I'm not sure where to start looking for the problem. |
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| 13:00.11 | Saturos | ping brad |
| 13:00.30 | brad | yo |
| 13:00.37 | whodaman- | yay |
| 13:00.39 | Saturos | you should match more often.. like now |
| 13:00.50 | brad | can't match here |
| 13:01.02 | brad | ping me again at 8pm :P |
| 13:01.05 | Saturos | oh, ok |
| 13:01.14 | whodaman- | hehe |
| 13:01.21 | whodaman- | Saturos, 4more is back :) |
| 13:01.53 | Saturos | whodaman-: was? |
| 13:02.24 | whodaman- | Saturos, er zockt jetzt wieder richtig heufig |
| 13:02.31 | Saturos | jetzt gerade? |
| 13:02.35 | whodaman- | die letzten 4-5 tage war er jeden Tag on |
| 13:02.41 | whodaman- | Ne, aber vielleicht kommt er gleich |
| 13:02.49 | Saturos | aha |
| 13:03.33 | brlcad | mornin' Saturos |
| 13:03.38 | Saturos | hi :) |
| 13:03.43 | Saturos | going to match ducati now.. wee |
| 13:03.48 | brlcad | fun :) |
| 13:03.59 | Saturos | not really.. |
| 13:04.02 | whodaman- | ew |
| 13:04.04 | brlcad | what team are you on? |
| 13:04.06 | Saturos | but theres no team for GU :) |
| 13:04.13 | whodaman- | exozytose |
| 13:04.18 | Saturos | exo.. we've been inactive for a while |
| 13:04.21 | brlcad | nods |
| 13:04.36 | whodaman- | Saturos, actually, ben and I matched once last month |
| 13:04.39 | whodaman- | that's something :P |
| 13:04.51 | brlcad | Long live the BZRebels! *ahem* ;-) |
| 13:05.12 | whodaman- | hehe |
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| 14:01.35 | spldart | Oh.. gonna be fiesty are we :-[ |
| 14:03.21 | spldart | Ooops.. killed BenUrban's process though ssh too LOL |
| 14:03.37 | whodaman- | oh |
| 14:03.43 | whodaman- | BenUrban...is you? |
| 14:03.46 | spldart | No |
| 14:03.50 | spldart | It was a joke |
| 14:04.03 | spldart | I are not BU |
| 14:04.54 | whodaman- | heh |
| 14:10.05 | blast007 | spldart: you should have said "No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!" |
| 14:10.16 | spldart | Doh! |
| 14:10.30 | spldart | Your right. My bad. Moo, Moomooo |
| 14:10.42 | Flash | BulletCatcher: the connection logic is in NetHandler.cxx (NetListener) |
| 14:10.55 | Flash | you are getting the connect message, but not any of the others |
| 14:11.05 | Flash | see if select() returns anything |
| 14:12.17 | Flash | then look in the BZFSUDPReadCallback and BZFSNetDataPendingCallback in bzfs to see if they are getting called |
| 14:12.52 | Flash | the code was really just moved, not so much changed, so it has to be subtle (since "It works on my machine") |
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| 14:55.43 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03sammy * r1080 10/trunk/src/FTGL/ (FTBBox.h FTPoint.h): |
| 14:55.43 | CIA-33 | FTGL: * Allow to create an FTBBox using two FTPoint objects. |
| 14:55.43 | CIA-33 | FTGL: * Allow the operands to FTPoint's "+" and "-" operators to be const. |
| 14:56.59 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03sammy * r1081 10/trunk/src/ (FTFont/FTFont.cpp FTFont/FTFontImpl.h FTGL/FTFont.h): |
| 14:56.59 | CIA-33 | FTGL: * Add an overload of FTFont::BBox that returns an FTBBox object. It will |
| 14:56.59 | CIA-33 | FTGL: save us a lot of code later. |
| 14:58.11 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03sammy * r1082 10/trunk/src/FTFont/ (FTFont.cpp FTFontImpl.h): |
| 14:58.11 | CIA-33 | FTGL: * Reimplement all FTFont::BBox() variants using the same FTFontImpl::BBox() |
| 14:58.11 | CIA-33 | FTGL: common method. |
| 14:58.41 | ruskie | busy bee ;) |
| 14:59.04 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03sammy * r1083 10/trunk/src/FTGL/FTBBox.h: |
| 14:59.04 | CIA-33 | FTGL: * Fix FTBBox::SetDepth() behaviour with negative depth values (as done in |
| 14:59.04 | CIA-33 | FTGL: the FTExtrudeGlyph class). |
| 15:01.02 | sam | jesus, sourceforge is painfully slow |
| 15:01.49 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03sammy * r1084 10/trunk/ (11 files in 5 dirs): |
| 15:01.49 | CIA-33 | FTGL: * Make all BBox functions return an FTBBox object instead of doing |
| 15:01.49 | CIA-33 | FTGL: countless conversions to floats or arrays of floats. |
| 15:01.56 | spldart | It has been pretty bad @ times lately |
| 15:03.53 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03sammy * r1085 10/trunk/src/ (FTFont/FTFont.cpp FTGL/FTBBox.h FTLayout/FTSimpleLayout.cpp): |
| 15:03.55 | CIA-33 | FTGL: * Change the += operator for bounding boxes to |=, which better represents |
| 15:03.57 | CIA-33 | FTGL: what is happening, and avoids future confusion with "FTBBox + FTPoint" |
| 15:03.59 | CIA-33 | FTGL: constructs. |
| 15:06.26 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03sammy * r1086 10/trunk/ (src/FTFont/FTFont.cpp src/FTGL/FTBBox.h test/FTBBox-Test.cpp): |
| 15:06.26 | CIA-33 | FTGL: * Replace FTBBox::Move() with the += operator, to make it clearer that the |
| 15:06.26 | CIA-33 | FTGL: object is modified in the process. |
| 15:07.40 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03sammy * r1087 10/trunk/src/FTGL/ (FTBBox.h FTFont.h): * Documentation updates. |
| 15:09.26 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03sammy * r1088 10/trunk/test/ (5 files): |
| 15:09.26 | CIA-33 | FTGL: * Fixed and reactivated unit tests that were disabled during the pImpl |
| 15:09.26 | CIA-33 | FTGL: refactoring. |
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| 16:10.34 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03sammy * r1089 10/trunk/src/ (6 files in 3 dirs): * Some code cleanup here and there, mostly in FTGlyphContainer. |
| 16:34.03 | TheRedBaron | recompiles his server |
| 16:46.19 | TheRedBaron | done |
| 16:46.55 | TheRedBaron | anyone with a recent 2.99 client feel free to test my.inexplicably.org:5154. I"m on a bz-less computer atm |
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| 18:47.54 | MPS_ | is the server bzf.bzflag.org crashed? |
| 18:48.16 | MPS_ | at least the bzf server at port 5154? |
| 18:48.30 | whodaman- | hmm |
| 18:48.32 | whodaman- | seems so |
| 18:49.28 | MPS_ | who maintains bzf.bzflag.org? |
| 18:49.58 | brad | points to uso |
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| 18:55.46 | ts | MPS_: I got "not a bzflag server" back from bzf a few minutes ago..now it seems to have been restarted |
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| 18:57.48 | MPS_ | ts: ah, k. it works again |
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| 19:03.53 | awilcox | spldart: normal run-of-the-mill e'ryday ping. |
| 19:04.25 | spldart | whaddup |
| 19:04.42 | awilcox | spldart: ... what's always up? :p |
| 19:04.59 | spldart | A Holiday Inn Express?? |
| 19:05.04 | awilcox | spldart: just making sure pogo isn't making you any bzcakes today... |
| 19:05.10 | awilcox | haha! |
| 19:05.29 | spldart | Nope. But it was yummy :-p |
| 19:06.01 | awilcox | was? you already ate the whole thing? :p |
| 19:07.27 | spldart | duh... pitter patter of 5 little treaded kids running through the house.. That cake didn't stand a chance |
| 19:07.46 | awilcox | spldart: haha, right, I forgot |
| 19:07.56 | awilcox | spldart: also been wondering, how does one annunciate your nick? "spell dart"? |
| 19:08.18 | spldart | I don't ennunciate it. |
| 19:08.26 | spldart | s.. p.. l.. dart |
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| 19:33.18 | Lukstr | god I love Xming |
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| 19:36.43 | nn64 | hi all |
| 19:36.56 | Lukstr | hello! |
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| 19:37.55 | nn64 | I Just finished making Extremely Extensive Documentation of the bzflag source code and am uploading it to my web server. |
| 19:38.13 | nn64 | I made it using doxygen |
| 19:38.35 | Lukstr | doxygen es la sexy |
| 19:38.48 | nn64 | It has diagrams of function calls etc |
| 19:39.14 | nn64 | the total size of the documentation came out to be 786MB |
| 19:40.19 | sam | it's very easy to generate totally useless content with doxygen |
| 19:42.12 | JBdiGriz | It's also easy to generate highly useful content with doxygen. |
| 19:42.36 | Erroneous | parts of bzflag are properly doxygenated. other parts not so much. |
| 19:42.51 | JBdiGriz | has generated totally useless content with gcc as well |
| 19:43.28 | Thumper_ | Erroneous: is the plan to move all floats to doubles? There's a lot of floats in the codebase... |
| 19:43.39 | Erroneous | I am not aware of any such plan |
| 19:43.46 | Erroneous | only for timekeeping |
| 19:44.20 | Erroneous | in particular GL code will still end up needing to use SP floats, so there's no point in making them double. |
| 19:44.31 | Thumper_ | noticed some commits moving floats to doubles but didn't hear any plan (yeah I know we don't have a plan) other than comments in the commits (which didn't really indicate if it was concentrated on one part of the codebase or not) |
| 19:45.12 | Lukstr | doubles for important math only ;) |
| 19:45.18 | Erroneous | there are a (very) few places where it's useful to do so |
| 19:45.19 | Thumper_ | heh |
| 19:45.28 | Erroneous | actually yeah :) |
| 19:45.40 | Lukstr | in a video game... |
| 19:45.43 | awilcox | nn64: doxygen is cheating :p you don't get the whole picture unless your brain replaces doxygen and makes its OWN function maps and class diagrams (at least imho) :) |
| 19:45.44 | Lukstr | not much important maths |
| 19:45.45 | Thumper_ | ok thx - was just looking for extra info |
| 19:45.52 | Thumper_ | wasn't planning to actually mess with floats->doubles |
| 19:45.55 | Erroneous | if the value really matters, use a double. otherwise floats are much faster. |
| 19:46.22 | Lukstr | GLFloat is only 32 bit right? |
| 19:46.36 | Erroneous | most drawing stuff, positions, etc, it doesn't matter if it's off a bit a few places to the right of the decimal |
| 19:46.42 | Lukstr | vaguely remembers a GL hint for double-precision |
| 19:47.08 | Lukstr | as long as it's consistantly imprecise :D |
| 19:47.18 | JBdiGriz | awilcox: gcc is cheating :p you don't get the whole picture unless you write the assembly language and convert it to machine code. |
| 19:47.30 | sam | most importantly, don't forget to use sinf() etc. instead of sin() etc. or you lose al the speed advantage of using floats |
| 19:47.41 | Erroneous | glfloats are 32-bit, yes |
| 19:47.45 | Erroneous | it's guaranteed by the spec |
| 19:47.49 | Lukstr | JBdiGriz: your processor is cheating :P you don't get the whole picture unless you step through the code in your head |
| 19:47.57 | nn64 | Well i found the doxygen i made extremely use-full it helps a tun when tracking what a function calls |
| 19:48.03 | JBdiGriz | Lukstr: yep, I do :D |
| 19:48.19 | Lukstr | installs his capacity doubler |
| 19:52.35 | awilcox | JBdiGriz: the problem is for a few routines I've DONE that (and been faster than gcc :o ) |
| 19:53.03 | JBdiGriz | Why would that be a problem? |
| 19:53.17 | awilcox | because I thought you were kidding. |
| 19:53.39 | awilcox | I now see you weren't, because it actually works sometimes. :p |
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| 19:53.54 | JBdiGriz | I was just pointing out that any tool can be used in a useful or a useless manner. |
| 19:54.17 | awilcox | yeah. string manipulation is a bear in assembly, but doing raw UART I/O is best left to assembler |
| 19:55.52 | JBdiGriz | It depends a lot on the UARTs that you use. I have been fairly successful in using c for accessing them recently, although my first assembly code was playing with UARTs. |
| 19:57.51 | awilcox | 16550s, mostly |
| 19:58.43 | awilcox | I use C code to access them but I wrote the assembler routines that the C code calls :) so basically I abstracted the raw I/O into assembler and then my C program doesn't need to think about all that stuff and can focus on its task |
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| 20:00.39 | awilcox | JBdiGriz: my very simple UART library, if you'd like to see :) -> http://awos.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/awos/trunk/src/kernel/drivers/comm/ |
| 20:01.31 | JBdiGriz | At this point, I'm working on multiple processors handling parallel threads. I'm not spending too much time on serial communications anymore. |
| 20:02.04 | awilcox | mul...mul...*shudders at thoughts of SMP* |
| 20:02.30 | awilcox | so I take it that I am in the presence of a fellow kernel hacker? :p |
| 20:02.55 | JBdiGriz | It depends on how you define "presence" |
| 20:04.01 | awilcox | s/in the presence of/talking to/ |
| 20:04.28 | JBdiGriz | I've made a fair number of changes to various kernels |
| 20:04.29 | awilcox | and will people stop complaining that I anthropomorphise IRC into a face-to-face meeting! |
| 20:04.53 | TheRedBaron | ~lart awilcox |
| 20:04.53 | ibot | nukes awilcox with a single large nuke |
| 20:06.20 | awilcox | JBdiGriz: I've only hacked on AWOS, but one of the proudest moments of my FOSS career came when a ReactOS developer asked permission to refactor my floppy disk driver into ROS |
| 20:08.00 | JBdiGriz | It's always nice when your work is actually used by others. |
| 20:08.22 | awilcox | yeah. |
| 20:09.02 | awilcox | well I don't know what ever happened to him, he seems to have disappeared, he didn't refactor it, and the floppy driver isn't even in the tree anymore -- but just being asked, it was exciting |
| 20:11.02 | awilcox | JBdiGriz: the other proudest moment of my FOSS career came when I got a patch accepted into the bz tree :) |
| 20:11.38 | JBdiGriz | Keep at it, eventually we'll just give you access to make your own commits. :) |
| 20:11.48 | awilcox | hehe :) |
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| 20:31.32 | awilcox | whoda|iPod: you couldn't possibly have gotten on IRC... on an iPod... |
| 20:31.43 | whoda|iPod | uh |
| 20:31.46 | whoda|iPod | looks like it |
| 20:31.51 | whoda|iPod | ;) |
| 20:31.59 | whoda|iPod | Is that okay? |
| 20:32.10 | awilcox | Well sure but how did you get an Internet connection?! |
| 20:32.52 | nn64 | finally im extracting the tarball i made of the doxygen of bzflag on the server's http dir that will hold it. I will give you the link as soon as it's ready |
| 20:33.22 | awilcox | nn64: just wondering, did you organise it by package/subsystem? |
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| 20:33.40 | whoda|iPod | this is an iytouch |
| 20:33.52 | whoda|iPod | itouch, even |
| 20:34.01 | Lukstr | whoda|iPod: can you run Xterm? :P |
| 20:34.09 | whoda|iPod | yes |
| 20:34.15 | nn64 | cool |
| 20:34.25 | Lukstr | I am very attracted to said iPod now |
| 20:34.28 | awilcox | wow |
| 20:34.33 | whoda|iPod | :) |
| 20:34.34 | Lukstr | ssh? |
| 20:34.40 | whoda|iPod | Yepp |
| 20:34.44 | Lukstr | oh my |
| 20:34.46 | spldart | woah |
| 20:34.50 | Lukstr | forward X? :P |
| 20:34.57 | spldart | hah! |
| 20:34.57 | whoda|iPod | Once jail braked |
| 20:35.11 | Lukstr | cause, you know |
| 20:35.12 | Lukstr | bzflag |
| 20:35.12 | whoda|iPod | or wait for the afk in june |
| 20:35.14 | Lukstr | on the ipod |
| 20:35.17 | whoda|iPod | errrr |
| 20:35.22 | whoda|iPod | SDK |
| 20:35.25 | whoda|iPod | :p |
| 20:35.32 | Lukstr | the SDK is crap though |
| 20:35.50 | whoda|iPod | then itlll even be legal |
| 20:35.53 | whoda|iPod | meh |
| 20:36.14 | whoda|iPod | avoids a flam war :p |
| 20:36.16 | whoda|iPod | gnight |
| 20:36.21 | awilcox | night. |
| 20:36.24 | whoda|iPod | flame... |
| 20:37.15 | Winny | Lukstr: it runs a version of Open GL.. I think it might be possible to port |
| 20:37.26 | Winny | opel GL ES or something |
| 20:37.30 | Lukstr | Winny: I wouldn't want to do that, personally. |
| 20:37.47 | awilcox | oooooooh |
| 20:37.54 | awilcox | bzflag on iPod would PWN |
| 20:38.07 | Lukstr | stand in front of your wireless router and forward X :P |
| 20:38.23 | awilcox | then I could get fragged in the car, at work, and when I'm forced to go shopping against my will :p |
| 20:39.16 | Winny | I doubt the wifi would go that far |
| 20:39.29 | awilcox | Winny: downtown has free wifi across city limits |
| 20:39.44 | awilcox | also, Starbucks :) |
| 20:39.56 | Winny | you'd be constantly loosing a signal as you went from acces point to acces point |
| 20:40.07 | awilcox | Winny: I could host a server and play with bzrobots :P |
| 20:40.14 | awilcox | SOMETHING |
| 20:40.21 | awilcox | I miss bzflag so badly :( |
| 20:40.29 | Winny | then play? |
| 20:41.05 | awilcox | between work, school, and a retarded router, I can't |
| 20:41.41 | Lukstr | :/ |
| 20:41.45 | awilcox | wonders if that fancy update he did to the router would let him play. |
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| 20:48.15 | Lukstr | I'm going to ask a possibly stupid, but positively unrelated to this channel, question: |
| 20:48.36 | Lukstr | Is there any way I can, from one ssh session, start a program in the other one? |
| 20:49.02 | awilcox | Lukstr: yes. |
| 20:49.13 | Lukstr | do tell |
| 20:49.17 | awilcox | Lukstr: don't ask how because I haven't done it in almost a year, but it's possible. |
| 20:49.19 | Lukstr | hahah |
| 20:49.30 | Lukstr | does it involve hijacking the session with root priveledges? |
| 20:49.34 | Winny | Lukstr: use screen? |
| 20:49.46 | Lukstr | Winny: this is less screen more X |
| 20:49.55 | Winny | ah, hm |
| 20:50.05 | awilcox | Lukstr: something like ssh -<something> name@server <name> |
| 20:50.06 | Lukstr | i know you can use root powers to manipulate X over SSH sessions |
| 20:50.19 | Lukstr | awilcox: no no, you misunderstand |
| 20:50.23 | Lukstr | I have two ssh sessions open |
| 20:50.39 | Lukstr | let us call them session 1 and session 2 |
| 20:50.49 | Lukstr | I want to, from session 1, start xterm in session 2's display |
| 20:51.01 | awilcox | oh |
| 20:51.12 | awilcox | that sounds like something you'd do in RDP or VNC -- no idea in ssh |
| 20:51.19 | Lukstr | hehe |
| 20:51.29 | awilcox | sorry |
| 20:51.34 | Lukstr | no worries |
| 20:51.37 | Lukstr | I'm screwing around |
| 20:53.24 | Lukstr | making X flex its muscle |
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| 20:55.28 | TD-Linux | so you are running two X servers too? |
| 20:55.48 | Lukstr | TD-Linux: I don't know |
| 20:56.01 | Lukstr | I can break it down, if you like |
| 20:56.06 | TD-Linux | okay |
| 20:56.14 | TD-Linux | because check out the DISPLAY environment variable |
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| 20:56.26 | TD-Linux | try setting it to :0 or :1 or maybe :2 before running a program |
| 20:56.40 | awilcox | oh right! DISPLAY=host:display |
| 20:56.48 | Lukstr | okay |
| 20:56.55 | Lukstr | in session 1: localhost:10.0 |
| 20:56.56 | awilcox | all you need is X forwarding enabled (which I assume you have) |
| 20:57.00 | Lukstr | in session 2: localhost:11.0 |
| 20:57.16 | awilcox | Lukstr: okay then try this on the command line |
| 20:57.24 | awilcox | DISPLAY=localhost:11.0 xterm & |
| 20:57.33 | Lukstr | uh |
| 20:57.50 | Lukstr | do you mean: DISPLAY=localhost:11.0; xterm & |
| 20:58.09 | awilcox | no, at least not in bash |
| 20:58.36 | Lukstr | awilcox: I love you |
| 20:58.50 | TD-Linux | hey it was my idea! :P |
| 20:58.53 | awilcox | yay! I think that means I helped someone. |
| 20:58.59 | Lukstr | TD-Linux: oh I love you too |
| 20:59.02 | Lukstr | share the love |
| 20:59.03 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 20:59.07 | awilcox | Lukstr: you love me? great, help me with my program design :P |
| 20:59.08 | Lukstr | check out this very confusing screenshot |
| 20:59.09 | TD-Linux | feels loved |
| 20:59.16 | Lukstr | ahe |
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| 21:04.06 | Lukstr | http://i26.tinypic.com/necjtl.jpg :D:D:D:D |
| 21:04.10 | Lukstr | I am very very happy |
| 21:04.15 | nn64 | http://www.bzfmaps.net/docs/bzflag-2.0.10/html/ |
| 21:06.05 | Lukstr | hm |
| 21:06.21 | nn64 | well there above is the link to the doxygen massive documentation of bzflag, bzfs, plugins, etc. |
| 21:06.29 | Lukstr | not bad, but I think much of the bzflag source is lacking comments for documentation |
| 21:06.41 | awilcox | nn64: looks ok, but I see no network code :p |
| 21:06.57 | nn64 | lol look threw the classes |
| 21:07.00 | Winny | I thought bzflag already had a doxygen page |
| 21:07.13 | Lukstr | s/threw/through/ |
| 21:07.59 | nn64 | Winny, I didn't ever see one |
| 21:08.23 | awilcox | nn64: ah, found PingPacket. not much of network code, maybe I just thought the netstack was bigger |
| 21:09.19 | awilcox | Lukstr: what OS are you running? |
| 21:09.25 | Lukstr | awilcox: hehehehe |
| 21:09.28 | Lukstr | confusing much? :P |
| 21:09.42 | awilcox | theh left looks like XP, the taskbar looks like vista, and the right looks almost like Solaris and CDE |
| 21:09.49 | nn64 | awilcox, well if you can click on the line of code and it will load the code file in html and bring you to that line. |
| 21:09.51 | Lukstr | XP Pro |
| 21:09.53 | Winny | awilcox, that's not the vista taskbar |
| 21:10.09 | Lukstr | running Xming to my workbox |
| 21:10.22 | brlcad | Lukstr: nifty |
| 21:10.30 | awilcox | Winny: it's black! I never found black for Luna :( |
| 21:10.39 | Winny | vista has an orb |
| 21:10.50 | awilcox | however you are right, it's not shiny enough (or dark enough)...or the colours...or the start button |
| 21:10.59 | awilcox | didn't really look at the start button |
| 21:11.34 | Lukstr | brlcad: I've been toiling |
| 21:11.43 | brlcad | trolling? :) |
| 21:11.49 | Lukstr | almost ;) |
| 21:12.04 | Lukstr | Xming's showing Ubuntu w/Fluxbox |
| 21:12.15 | Lukstr | to complete the "What OS are you running?" question |
| 21:12.24 | nn64 | I like the fact that doxygen can make maps of function calls |
| 21:12.33 | Lukstr | so now I can have native X windows in XP |
| 21:12.53 | awilcox | you lucky! |
| 21:13.04 | awilcox | I want to be able to connect to my X11 in XP :/ |
| 21:13.07 | Think_Differentl | ugh, something is wrong with my net card :/ |
| 21:13.15 | Lukstr | awilcox: get Xming |
| 21:15.16 | Lukstr | awilcox: If you can use putty, you can use xming |
| 21:15.26 | awilcox | Lukstr: I am using PuTTY right now :) |
| 21:15.39 | Lukstr | though, be warned |
| 21:15.52 | Lukstr | forwarding X over !LAN (as in WAN) can be painfully slow |
| 21:16.25 | nn64 | awilcox, there is a BzfNetwork class if that helps? |
| 21:16.27 | awilcox | Lukstr: eh. |
| 21:16.38 | awilcox | Lukstr: not with compression. I've done it before |
| 21:16.53 | awilcox | Lukstr: now does Xming force you to run a DE and all that crap or can I just, for instance, run xterm? |
| 21:16.58 | Lukstr | DE? |
| 21:17.03 | Lukstr | no no |
| 21:17.06 | Lukstr | you can run xterm alone |
| 21:17.08 | awilcox | desktop environment. kde/gnome/fvwm |
| 21:17.13 | Lukstr | look at the right window in the screenshot |
| 21:17.15 | Lukstr | that's on its own |
| 21:17.22 | awilcox | ohhhhh |
| 21:17.32 | awilcox | I was thinking X-Chat was running, and that bar at the top. |
| 21:17.33 | nn64 | awilcox, http://www.bzfmaps.net/docs/bzflag-2.0.10/html/network_8h.html |
| 21:17.34 | Lukstr | I sent it over from the left |
| 21:17.41 | Lukstr | :P |
| 21:18.25 | brlcad | nn64: that is one of the best features of doxygen |
| 21:18.26 | Lukstr | but since I'll be developing mostly on that machine I figured I'd just forward a WM too |
| 21:18.34 | brlcad | nn64: you working on doxygen for bzflag? |
| 21:18.44 | nn64 | brlcad, i finished it |
| 21:19.01 | nn64 | brlcad, http://www.bzfmaps.net/docs/bzflag-2.0.10/html/ |
| 21:20.38 | Lukstr | awilcox: xming has full clipboard support too |
| 21:22.08 | awilcox | ooh! |
| 21:22.22 | Lukstr | now, I wonder what I could do with VMWare running a server and Xming.... |
| 21:23.27 | awilcox | welp |
| 21:23.37 | awilcox | that'll teach me to run beta software on a production workstation |
| 21:23.42 | nn64 | wow the class world page is massive |
| 21:23.59 | nn64 | but not as massive as the playing.cxx page |
| 21:26.42 | Lukstr | awilcox: actually, xming does load the X de, if you want to even call it that, it just doesn't draw it. You can toggle it |
| 21:26.49 | Lukstr | which basically turns into full screen X |
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| 21:32.51 | brlcad | nn64: very nice, cool |
| 21:33.08 | brlcad | but jeez that sure does beg for some cleanup/organizing/groups |
| 21:33.39 | Lukstr | ever consider documentation comments? |
| 21:34.24 | JBdiGriz | That's one of the benefits/drawbacks of doxygen. You look at the output and see how much more work is needed. |
| 21:34.32 | brlcad | :) |
| 21:34.44 | brlcad | yay, wordfilter .. http://www.bzfmaps.net/docs/bzflag-2.0.10/html/classWordFilter.html |
| 21:35.06 | brlcad | that's actually one that's fully doxygened iirc |
| 21:35.11 | JBdiGriz | nn64: Did you make any changes to the source/makefiles to generate that? |
| 21:35.11 | brlcad | likes the graphs |
| 21:35.13 | Lukstr | wicked |
| 21:35.20 | Erroneous | Lukstr: we do have some appropriate comments... http://www.bzfmaps.net/docs/bzflag-2.0.10/html/classFlag.html for instance |
| 21:35.40 | JBdiGriz | Erroneous: Watch out for the inappropriate comments |
| 21:35.45 | Erroneous | heh :) |
| 21:35.50 | Lukstr | I guess I'll make a note to do the same with libbzw |
| 21:36.01 | Erroneous | yes, new code should be properly doxygenated |
| 21:36.14 | Erroneous | it's easy to do if you do it as you go |
| 21:36.18 | Lukstr | aye |
| 21:36.41 | Lukstr | where I worked last summer we had to do those .NET or maybe just VS comments |
| 21:37.24 | Erroneous | xml doc comment stuff? |
| 21:37.25 | nn64 | JBdiGriz, no |
| 21:37.25 | awilcox | Lukstr: you mean <param>...</param> <summary>...</summary> <moocow>...</moocow>, etc? |
| 21:37.36 | Lukstr | awilcox: yeah that sounds right |
| 21:37.45 | Erroneous | those are rather annoying to put in |
| 21:37.51 | Lukstr | yeah |
| 21:37.58 | Erroneous | but they do serve the same basic purpose |
| 21:38.02 | Lukstr | I'm okay with javadocs-level commenting |
| 21:38.04 | Erroneous | and I believe doxygen can even be set up to read them |
| 21:38.08 | Lukstr | beyond that it's a hassle |
| 21:38.12 | Erroneous | doxygen is much more like javadocs |
| 21:38.20 | Lukstr | ahh, then I'll adapt excellently |
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| 21:38.24 | Lukstr | I comment like that anyways |
| 21:38.26 | nn64 | well g2g have fun with it. |
| 21:38.37 | brlcad | hah, awesome .. http://www.bzfmaps.net/docs/bzflag-2.0.10/html/classHUDDialog.html |
| 21:38.39 | JBdiGriz | It's nice having a short description of each of the parameters. It's also very easy to add in. |
| 21:38.59 | brlcad | that's impressive |
| 21:39.16 | Lukstr | ~doxygen++ |
| 21:39.25 | Winny | would be interesting if there was something on sourceforge or MBO for that |
| 21:39.48 | Lukstr | ~nn64++ |
| 21:39.52 | nn64 | ya |
| 21:40.07 | Erroneous | brlcad: the HUDui stuff gets pretty nice diagrams iirc. might be useful to KingOfCamelot. |
| 21:40.16 | brlcad | another good example fully commented: http://www.bzfmaps.net/docs/bzflag-2.0.10/html/classObstacle.html |
| 21:41.17 | brlcad | hahaha http://www.bzfmaps.net/docs/bzflag-2.0.10/html/classPlayer.html |
| 21:41.46 | Erroneous | nice collab diagram there :P |
| 21:41.56 | brlcad | "well there's your problem" |
| 21:42.22 | nn64 | bbl |
| 21:43.01 | brlcad | wow, check out SpawnPolicy |
| 21:43.23 | spldart | WooHoo!! Graphics rendering place behind us through a bunch of P4 Dells in their dumpers... I went diving with another employee here ;-D |
| 21:43.26 | brlcad | getPosition .. that interesting |
| 21:43.53 | awilcox | spldart: nice! |
| 21:44.07 | awilcox | spldart: I love it when companies through their computers in the garbage and let me have them free :D |
| 21:44.28 | Think_Differentl | yeah, my school did that. I wouldn't be here if they hadn't :/ |
| 21:44.35 | spldart | :-D |
| 21:44.47 | awilcox | heh |
| 21:44.51 | Think_Differentl | except, of course, they were P3s :P |
| 21:45.21 | awilcox | well I mean a P3 is better than a P4. |
| 21:45.38 | awilcox | even the new quad-core chips are based on P3 :) |
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| 21:45.49 | spldart | To bad I'm on my kawasaki today so I can't tank them home till friday :( |
| 21:46.02 | awilcox | tank them home! |
| 21:46.05 | awilcox | wooooo you drive a tank? |
| 21:46.24 | Think_Differentl | spldart, tape them to the back of the bike? |
| 21:46.36 | brlcad | nn64: that's pretty cool, you going to keep working on it ? |
| 21:46.37 | Erroneous | brlcad: looks like most of that mess is from record/replay |
| 21:46.38 | Think_Differentl | duct tape can solve any problem. |
| 21:46.42 | spldart | That would be quite a sight |
| 21:46.46 | awilcox | spldart: ping pogo for me :p |
| 21:46.56 | spldart | I will in a few... leavintg work now |
| 21:47.00 | awilcox | ok. |
| 21:47.11 | Erroneous | thinks doxygen would be more useful on head than 2.0 anyway |
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| 21:47.35 | JBdiGriz | agrees and thinks we should have a standard place on the web site |
| 21:47.36 | brlcad | oh, that explains a few things |
| 21:47.45 | Erroneous | see also http://www.bzfmaps.net/docs/bzflag-2.0.10/html/namespaceRecord.html ;) |
| 21:47.53 | brlcad | wow, ReplayCommand is a mess :) |
| 21:48.04 | brlcad | that's how trepan's code felt .. but now I have a picture :) |
| 21:48.23 | Erroneous | yup |
| 21:49.06 | Erroneous | would like to see the new network stuff appropriately doc'ed and diagrammed |
| 21:49.26 | awilcox | Erroneous: that's my job! you are outsourcing it to doxygen? :( |
| 21:49.31 | awilcox | that was gonna be my weekend fun thing to do |
| 21:49.42 | brlcad | awilcox: so you do it via doxygen ;) |
| 21:49.48 | JeffM | wen't you going to do that like 3 months ago? |
| 21:49.50 | Erroneous | awilcox: getting useful documentation from doxygen is still a big task :) |
| 21:50.02 | Erroneous | and it won't document the wire protocol |
| 21:50.04 | awilcox | Erroneous: heh. |
| 21:50.05 | Erroneous | which we also need |
| 21:50.10 | brlcad | it's not like it's freebie, even marking up the code via doxygen is a fair bit of work |
| 21:50.10 | JBdiGriz | Fully document all of the parameters and the functions in doxygen |
| 21:50.11 | awilcox | ah, true |
| 21:50.25 | JBdiGriz | If you need a function header, let me know and I'll cobble something up |
| 21:50.52 | awilcox | JeffM: yes but my schedule got very full. this will be the first weekend in a long time I'll actually _get_ to do fun things |
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| 21:51.32 | awilcox | I was told that documenting the network stuff was going to help in like March, but that's when I got assigned to this new project that takes up a lot of time |
| 21:52.05 | awilcox | wonders how hard it is to write an ethereal (wireshark?) plugin for bzflag proto, too |
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| 21:58.10 | jftsang | nn64, tj13820 and I have left some messages on #bzfmaps |
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| 22:18.47 | Tupone | awilcox: IIRC someone wrote it |
| 22:20.32 | awilcox | Tupone: ah okay |
| 22:21.30 | Tupone | but don't remember who. Maybe he is in the irc log of last year |
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| 22:34.15 | Lukstr | awilcox and TD-Linux: know any way to change the display of an X program once it's running? :P |
| 22:34.27 | TD-Linux | nope |
| 22:34.28 | awilcox | Lukstr: ah, never mastered that one. |
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| 22:34.38 | TD-Linux | it sends initialization commands to X server |
| 22:34.44 | TD-Linux | so the client would have to be aware of it |
| 22:35.03 | TD-Linux | maybe there is some sort of intermediate program that is a fake X server that could do it... |
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| 23:04.42 | Lukstr | TD-Linux: X should be powerful enough to switch the display. |
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| 23:06.13 | Lukstr | heh |
| 23:12.44 | Lukstr | aha! xmove |
| 23:13.00 | Winny | hah you just highlighted AHA |
| 23:13.03 | AHA | :P |
| 23:13.09 | spldart | hehe |
| 23:13.15 | Winny | that must happen all the time |
| 23:13.16 | AHA | cries in the corner |
| 23:13.16 | spldart | was thinking that too |
| 23:13.21 | AHA | Winny, it does |
| 23:13.31 | AHA | i am on like 5 channels with over 300 people |
| 23:13.36 | AHA | at least every 20 minutes |
| 23:13.45 | spldart | You pwned yourself |
| 23:13.47 | Winny | I'm actually surprised how many people say "Winny the pooh" at random |
| 23:13.48 | Winny | seriously |
| 23:14.08 | JBdiGriz | Especially since it's Winnie the pooh |
| 23:14.31 | Lukstr | impressive choice of user name |
| 23:14.32 | spldart | Whiney the poo POO! |
| 23:14.36 | Winny | peepul spell fenetically :P |
| 23:14.42 | Lukstr | I picked one that gets less highlighted than it should :P |
| 23:14.49 | Winny | lukester |
| 23:14.52 | Lukstr | hey |
| 23:14.53 | Lukstr | dead on |
| 23:14.55 | spldart | LOL |
| 23:14.58 | spldart | z |
| 23:15.06 | Lukstr | Winny gets all the points |
| 23:15.20 | spldart | ~Winny ++ |
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| 23:15.33 | Winny | It's bryjen run away |
| 23:15.43 | Lukstr | You're one of a handful of people to figure that one out right away :P |
| 23:15.45 | spldart | trips an falls |
| 23:16.01 | Winny | Lukstr, figure what out? |
| 23:16.03 | Lukstr | instead of "Luckster" |
| 23:16.13 | Winny | ah :p |
| 23:16.18 | Lukstr | you put the right vowels in |
| 23:16.29 | spldart | I admin.. I was presuming 1)luckster and 2)lukester |
| 23:16.29 | JBdiGriz | Irritable vowel syndrome |
| 23:16.38 | spldart | s/admit |
| 23:16.44 | spldart | LMAO |
| 23:16.48 | Lukstr | hahaha |
| 23:16.49 | Winny | haha |
| 23:16.57 | bryjen | eats spldart and his little typo too |
| 23:17.34 | Winny | ~JBdiGriz++ |
| 23:17.38 | spldart | dies laughing.. or of being consumed |
| 23:17.43 | bryjen | *buuurp* |
| 23:17.49 | spldart | wheew |
| 23:18.04 | spldart | is embarasssed causing such bad breath |
| 23:18.39 | spldart | Hopefully my 'little typo' cleaned bryjen's teeth though |
| 23:19.09 | bryjen | retreats back into the shadows with the other grues |
| 23:20.05 | Erroneous | shines a lantern on bryjen |
| 23:21.29 | Lukstr | TimRiker sure showed that term who's boss |
| 23:22.04 | bryjen | blows out the light and laughs ominously are darkness envelopes Erroneous |
| 23:22.09 | spldart | When in doubt.. kill sudo kill process# |
| 23:22.50 | JBdiGriz | shoots an arrow in the direction of the bad breath |
| 23:22.57 | Lukstr | x11 : xmove :: sh : screen |
| 23:23.15 | bryjen | thanks for the toothpick |
| 23:23.35 | JBdiGriz | You should go back and check that game |
| 23:23.39 | Lukstr | isn't that how those american fellers show relations on their standardized testing? |
| 23:27.59 | spldart | ? |
| 23:28.09 | Lukstr | a : b :: 1 : 2 |
| 23:28.10 | Lukstr | ? |
| 23:28.27 | Lukstr | I swear I saw that somewhere before, relating to SATs or something |
| 23:28.42 | Lukstr | I could be horribly mistaken |
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| 23:45.56 | Lukstr | another handle that might get pinged a lot |
| 23:46.38 | Winny | rtfm noob! |
| 23:46.43 | nn64 | WOW, the diagrams in here are MASSIVE !!!! http://www.bzfmaps.net/docs/bzflag-2.0.10/html/bzfs_8cxx.html |
| 23:47.28 | Winny | put it on a faster connection :P |
| 23:47.59 | blast007 | gets tired of waiting for it to load |
| 23:48.51 | Think_Differentl | watches the light blink on his NIC |
| 23:50.27 | nn64 | well its worth waiting for it to load |
| 23:50.38 | Winny | not really |
| 23:51.32 | nn64 | these are the most crazy diagrams i have seen yet! |
| 23:52.23 | nn64 | the page is slow because it is comprised of tuns of Big diagrams. |
| 23:52.37 | blast007 | no, it's slow, because it's hosted on a cable modem |
| 23:52.39 | Winny | no, it's slow because it's on a cable modem |
| 23:52.44 | Winny | bah blast007 |
| 23:52.46 | blast007 | I win |
| 23:52.55 | Winny | ~blast007++ |
| 23:53.06 | blast007 | but only because my irssi client is running on a machine with a faster connection than NN :P |
| 23:54.32 | Think_Differentl | wishes FiOS would come soon |
| 23:54.46 | nn64 | lol |
| 23:55.19 | nn64 | blast007, well its complicated it would seem they stuck to much in that one file lol |
| 23:56.16 | Winny | just admit you need a real server :p |
| 23:57.49 | Think_Differentl | Winny, more like a real connection |
| 23:58.03 | Winny | it's hard to find consumer connections over 1-2mbit |
| 23:58.11 | Think_Differentl | up? |
| 23:58.12 | Winny | if you got a datacenter server you'd get 10mbit plus |
| 23:58.13 | nn64 | Winny, Ya i need a real server in the way that some server compony needs to hire me lol |
| 23:58.16 | spldart | jah up |
| 23:58.32 | Think_Differentl | FiOS can has 5mbps up |
| 23:58.42 | nn64 | Think_Differentl, cool |
| 23:58.44 | Winny | but it's not available in many places |
| 23:58.48 | spldart | Not avail here.. You Winny |
| 23:58.53 | Think_Differentl | nn64, your server has bigtime packetloss. |
| 23:59.08 | nn64 | Think_Differentl, for http? |
| 23:59.13 | blast007 | well, it's packetloss because it can't keep up with the required traffic |
| 23:59.24 | blast007 | so basically it's just a flooded connection |
