| 00:00.05 | blast007 | would be nice to have "http://register.bzflag.org", even if it just redirected to the registration page on the forum |
| 00:00.22 | blast007 | forum.bzflag.org, stats.bzflag.org, wiki.bzflag.org, etc |
| 00:01.58 | JeffM | bahh |
| 00:01.59 | JeffM | sorry |
| 00:02.00 | JeffM | I'm stupid |
| 00:02.02 | JeffM | go fix it |
| 00:03.42 | blast007 | why was/is Tim against URLs like that? |
| 00:03.54 | blast007 | I think it's more intuitive for the users |
| 00:04.12 | blast007 | and allows services to be split across servers much more easily |
| 00:06.14 | Constitution | okay, update builddate and configure.ac... that's it, right? |
| 00:06.25 | Constitution | as far as changed in the code itself |
| 00:06.33 | Erroneous | there's a full release procedure outlined in devinfo |
| 00:06.52 | Erroneous | nobody remembers what has to change, we just go look it up there :) |
| 00:06.58 | Constitution | k :) |
| 00:07.42 | JeffM | blast007, you won't belive me if I tell you |
| 00:07.55 | blast007 | JeffM: I probably would, actually... |
| 00:08.26 | JeffM | cus he didn't know you could do domain cookies |
| 00:08.35 | blast007 | :/ |
| 00:08.41 | JeffM | he thought tha all browsers worked like i.e. 2.0 |
| 00:08.49 | blast007 | heh |
| 00:19.19 | Constitution | what's a good -packetlosswarn argument for the informational bzfs.conf? 5%? |
| 00:22.23 | a_meteorite | Constitution: 1% is too much imho :) |
| 00:22.32 | a_meteorite | things start getting weird even at that |
| 00:23.12 | Constitution | yeah, on our servers, but I'm looking for a good general argument for the informative file |
| 00:23.27 | blast007 | a_meteorite: still, I'd rather not get kicked if my wifi goes a little wacky when a phone call comes in ;) |
| 00:23.33 | a_meteorite | heh |
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| 00:27.41 | JeffM | blast007, yeah. both Erroneous and I could not belive it when we heard it |
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| 00:38.27 | Constitution | ts: ping |
| 00:39.06 | JeffM | so Constitution did you tag? |
| 00:39.14 | Constitution | JeffM: still updating misc stuff |
| 00:39.16 | JeffM | ok |
| 00:39.35 | JeffM | you going to build the source tarballs and upload them to SF? |
| 00:39.47 | Constitution | sure... assuming I have the perms |
| 00:39.49 | JeffM | you do |
| 00:39.53 | Constitution | k |
| 00:40.02 | JeffM | just be sure to hit the email notificaiton button when you do |
| 00:40.22 | Constitution | okay |
| 00:40.25 | JeffM | if your up when I get home, remind me and I'll do a windows build |
| 00:40.29 | JeffM | I'll try to rmember myself |
| 00:40.34 | Constitution | sounds good |
| 00:40.46 | Constitution | anyone else know the difference between -lagannounce and -adminlagannounce? |
| 00:41.00 | JeffM | I'd try it while watching Ocean's 13 at my friends house, but I only have VC8 on the laptop, and she'd get pissed. |
| 00:41.11 | JeffM | Constitution, I belive admin goes to the admin channel only |
| 00:41.27 | Constitution | so -lagannounce makes it go to all players? |
| 00:41.36 | JeffM | I belive so |
| 00:41.41 | Constitution | hmm, okay then |
| 00:41.55 | JeffM | ether that or just to you |
| 00:42.07 | JeffM | should be easy to see in the code |
| 00:42.22 | JeffM | oh wait, you can't relesae yet |
| 00:42.25 | JeffM | you need one more thing |
| 00:42.31 | JeffM | title image that dosn't say RC |
| 00:42.51 | Constitution | ah |
| 00:43.12 | JeffM | let me see if I can hack it out |
| 00:44.16 | JeffM | hmm not really |
| 00:44.21 | JeffM | he made it smaller for the RC |
| 00:46.21 | JeffM | yeah, really should have him redo it |
| 00:46.43 | Constitution | well I'll get everything else tidied up, anyway |
| 00:46.46 | JeffM | I'll send him a PM |
| 00:49.03 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://my.bzflag.org/w/ || 2.0.10 final tomorow, speak now or hold your peace |
| 00:49.58 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://my.bzflag.org/w/ || 2.0.10 final 11/15, speak now or hold your peace |
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| 00:51.18 | JeffM | ok, so we got "never say never", "Sasquatch", "He says he's not dead", and "the missing child" |
| 00:51.25 | JeffM | I prefer "never say never" |
| 00:51.48 | JeffM | any against? |
| 00:52.19 | eTangenT | but never say never works |
| 00:53.09 | JeffM | so we are at 2.5 to 0.5 for never say never ;) |
| 00:53.19 | JeffM | brlcad, never say never good enough for you? |
| 00:53.39 | JeffM | purple_cow, say the word "abstain" for me please :) |
| 00:54.45 | JeffM | hey donny_baker you arround? |
| 00:54.53 | JeffM | or blast007 may know as well |
| 00:55.08 | JeffM | is there a way to have the main page of the wiki show a list of the most recent page adds/edits? |
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| 01:26.58 | TD-Linux | could you transclude the 'recent edits' special page? |
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| 02:00.48 | short_circuit | "He says he's not dead" :) |
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| 02:35.45 | brlcad | sounds good enough to me |
| 02:52.56 | short_circuit | cuz some users might 'upgrade' downgrade to xp due to some challenges with Vista.... Leopard pwning or something?.... More linux business to pick up on? |
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| 03:15.37 | blast007 | short_circuit: actually, now that I've used vista for a while, I like it |
| 03:15.47 | short_circuit | ick |
| 03:16.39 | blast007 | short_circuit: it's a very stable OS |
| 03:16.40 | short_circuit | Better than XP? Better than the MS alternatives? |
| 03:16.54 | blast007 | well, for my laptop, it's better than linux or XP |
| 03:16.59 | blast007 | on XP, my wifi doesn't work right |
| 03:17.09 | blast007 | and on linux, my sound doesn't work right ;) |
| 03:17.25 | short_circuit | hrm... so hardware plays a role on your judgment |
| 03:17.29 | blast007 | a little |
| 03:17.34 | blast007 | plus I like some of the features of Vista |
| 03:17.48 | short_circuit | Very recent laptop? |
| 03:17.50 | blast007 | for an MCE system, Vista would be nice |
| 03:17.57 | blast007 | short_circuit: somewhat, yeah |
| 03:18.06 | blast007 | has an nVidia GO 7600GT |
| 03:18.16 | short_circuit | Perhaps your biased by new and I'm biased by more dated hardware |
| 03:18.32 | blast007 | well, Vista isn't going to run on dated hardware :) |
| 03:18.53 | short_circuit | welll... depends by the def. of dated |
| 03:19.01 | blast007 | the main reason I haven't put Vista on my gaming box is because I don't have a DX10 card anyway |
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| 03:19.14 | blast007 | and even then, I'd probably dual boot |
| 03:19.32 | blast007 | vista has some cool features |
| 03:19.54 | blast007 | I love the sound mixer, since it gives you a volume control per-program for a lot of software |
| 03:20.04 | blast007 | so I can adjust the music volume independent of a game's volume |
| 03:20.14 | blast007 | (music volume of a media player) |
| 03:20.37 | short_circuit | how much overhead does that convenience cost though? |
| 03:20.55 | blast007 | I can still run Half Life 2 |
| 03:21.11 | blast007 | and from what I heard, linux can do something similar for the mixer |
| 03:21.17 | short_circuit | true |
| 03:21.33 | blast007 | but the software might have to be coded to work that way |
| 03:21.54 | short_circuit | It may still be a while till I run vista on multi boot machine though ... hrm... |
| 03:21.56 | inchworm | register itself with the manager somehow? |
| 03:22.36 | blast007 | inchworm: yeah, not sure exactly |
| 03:22.56 | blast007 | Vista probably gets around that by the fact that a lot of stuff uses DirectSound or DirectSound3D |
| 03:22.58 | inchworm | hehe |
| 03:23.09 | blast007 | so it can just interface that |
| 03:23.51 | inchworm | reasonable |
| 03:23.54 | blast007 | plus, I've only had two BSOD's with Vista, and those were both driver issues |
| 03:23.59 | inchworm | and MS controls both, so they can get it to work together |
| 03:24.34 | blast007 | so Vista feels more stable than XP even |
| 03:24.42 | blast007 | and this is not even at SP1 |
| 03:24.52 | blast007 | and comparing to XP with SP2 + any other updates |
| 03:24.55 | short_circuit | More stable than XP and written by MS? Say it aint so! |
| 03:25.27 | rob1n | progress is moving forward, even microsoft follows that definition heh |
| 03:25.40 | rob1n | albeit very very slowl |
| 03:25.44 | rob1n | *slowly |
| 03:25.45 | short_circuit | Although I've noticed that many aftermarket card manufacturers have focused so heavily on vista stability that xp drivers are dropping in quality and stability |
| 03:26.30 | Winny | 2 year old card, 1 year old driver. |
| 03:26.54 | short_circuit | Nvidia drivers are really having issues with DD DX... I'm using 1 year old drivers myself to be as stable as possible |
| 03:27.23 | short_circuit | Haven't seen driver issues this bad since ATI some few years ago |
| 03:27.24 | rob1n | on xp or vista? |
| 03:27.28 | short_circuit | XP |
| 03:27.33 | rob1n | get vista ;) |
| 03:27.35 | Winny | heh |
| 03:27.39 | short_circuit | They are really focusing effort on vista |
| 03:27.45 | rob1n | never thought those words would come out of my mouth, but whatever |
| 03:27.54 | short_circuit | But I hate vista... from experience with vista beta test a way back |
| 03:27.54 | rob1n | if you're that concerned with your drivers, just get vista |
| 03:28.10 | Winny | vista skin FTW http://bzfusion.net/kyle/desktop/desktop11-10.JPG |
| 03:28.24 | Winny | hey, that rhymes! |
| 03:28.37 | short_circuit | I'm being pushed into it by MS and people who want to sell to MS compatible.... That's not the reason to upgrade |
| 03:28.44 | rob1n | i want http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130302 heh |
| 03:30.30 | short_circuit | I'm seriously hoping that XP can be my last MS product to actually pwn and that the alternatives can service me from here on out. |
| 03:31.23 | blast007 | Winny: I have my XP laptop with a vista'ish theme too ;) |
| 03:31.44 | blast007 | just not that in depth |
| 03:31.56 | blast007 | mine is just the window borders and colors |
| 03:32.21 | rob1n | i had xp with a theme that... wasn't vista? |
| 03:32.44 | rob1n | i mean, vista doesn't even look great |
| 03:32.48 | rob1n | there are better 3rd party themes |
| 03:33.52 | Winny | I like the looks of vista |
| 03:33.57 | brlcad | JeffM: sounds peachy with me (the name) |
| 03:33.58 | Winny | much better then fisher price XP |
| 03:34.22 | short_circuit | My God!... I can't believe my eyes |
| 03:35.43 | brlcad | or even "never dammit" or "there will never be a 2.0.10 release" |
| 03:36.06 | short_circuit | 2.0.14.5 rc13 |
| 03:36.24 | Winny | hehe |
| 03:36.36 | short_circuit | With a side of sour cream and onions |
| 03:36.50 | short_circuit | you have tuh patch that yourself |
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| 04:18.01 | JeffM | brlcad: cool, now we just need purple_cow to abstain and we have majority ;) |
| 04:18.12 | purple_cow | what is this about? |
| 04:18.19 | JeffM | just say abstain ;) |
| 04:18.24 | purple_cow | hang on |
| 04:18.28 | JeffM | all good |
| 04:18.29 | purple_cow | what is this about? |
| 04:18.30 | JeffM | heh |
| 04:18.33 | JeffM | name for .10 |
| 04:18.36 | JeffM | "never say never" |
| 04:18.46 | JeffM | your a project admin |
| 04:18.49 | JeffM | see there ya go |
| 04:19.01 | JeffM | now it's 2 to 1, we are set |
| 04:19.04 | Constitution | heh |
| 04:20.04 | JeffM | purple_cow is the silent but deadly project admin |
| 04:30.17 | JeffM | how does this look? http://www.opencombat.net/files/images/bzlogo/title_final.png |
| 04:31.05 | Constitution | does it have to say "final"? |
| 04:31.19 | JeffM | yeah me nether |
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| 04:31.26 | JeffM | I'll wait for satuos |
| 04:31.40 | JeffM | I can't edit the .8 one cus .10 is longer |
| 04:31.45 | JeffM | for the same font size |
| 04:31.47 | DTRemenak | narrower font |
| 04:31.50 | JeffM | yeah |
| 04:31.54 | DTRemenak | longer flag :) |
| 04:31.56 | JeffM | but its' a pain to edit the entire flag |
| 04:32.03 | JeffM | I asked saturos to make one for 10 |
| 04:32.08 | DTRemenak | cool |
| 04:32.16 | JeffM | I was just puttering untill then |
| 04:32.41 | DTRemenak | 'sides, if you did it I'd probably have to backport the png fixes :P |
| 04:33.56 | JeffM | I'd just not use elements |
| 04:34.04 | Constitution | here's my start on the final fixes... hopefully I'll finish it up tonight: http://fairserve.net/const/2_0_10_diff.txt |
| 04:34.05 | JeffM | I have full PS on this and the laptop |
| 04:34.39 | JeffM | the installer version has to change too |
| 04:35.26 | Constitution | the windows installer? |
| 04:35.28 | DTRemenak | whoever builds the installer can change that |
| 04:35.37 | JeffM | it should change before the tag |
| 04:35.57 | DTRemenak | we can retag. I don't think it's ever gone in before the first tag, except when you or I was doing the release |
| 04:36.34 | JeffM | or I could just do what I just did |
| 04:37.05 | JeffM | gone and deaded |
| 04:37.52 | JeffM | let me see if I can reset it from the web interface |
| 04:39.55 | JeffM | hmm,I was able to set to not use a custom filter |
| 04:40.01 | JeffM | and it says it's connecting |
| 04:40.06 | JeffM | maybe that will help |
| 04:40.12 | JeffM | we don't need the custom filter anymore |
| 04:41.09 | JeffM | we don't need navi-misc,or bzedit, or bzfs-plugins |
| 04:42.46 | JeffM | I think if they could just remove the bot record, I could remake it and be ok |
| 04:42.48 | brlcad | I tried that day before yesterday |
| 04:42.51 | brlcad | it eventually times out |
| 04:42.58 | brlcad | we're suck on cia-22 .. which is dead |
| 04:43.00 | JeffM | we have like the second oldest ruleset there |
| 04:43.05 | JeffM | hmm |
| 04:43.21 | brlcad | our filter ruleset was fine, I tried others .. it's just not even talking to the bot |
| 04:43.34 | brlcad | and apparently has no recovery to restart the bot |
| 04:43.36 | JeffM | well I got it to stick on the non custom ruleset |
| 04:43.53 | brlcad | yeah, you can change it, and it'll even change back |
| 04:43.59 | JeffM | well I was hoping to see if it would change us off of 22 |
| 04:44.11 | JeffM | mayhaps they can remove the bot, and we'd just get a new one |
| 04:44.18 | brlcad | I even set inactive then back to active |
| 04:44.27 | JeffM | inactive 500s |
| 04:44.33 | brlcad | you have to do it twice |
| 04:50.58 | brlcad | ~seen CIA-22 |
| 04:51.30 | ibot | cia-22 <n=CIA@208.69.182.149> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 46d 5h 13m 19s ago, saying: '03funkydude * r50327 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Plugins/Messages: Scrap Kothnok's method, use a better one, and make shadow text optional.'. |
| 04:51.42 | brlcad | hrm |
| 04:53.06 | brlcad | since saturday apparently |
| 04:53.37 | JeffM | hence why I think it'd be good to see if we could just rebuild the bot record |
| 04:55.08 | JeffM | the only other options I can think of is go to an RSS reading bot, or do the #commits echo |
| 04:59.29 | brlcad | hm, well I just tried that |
| 04:59.36 | JeffM | tried what? |
| 05:00.27 | brlcad | claimed it, disabled it, dropped from my list, readded #bzflag, then it restored the same bot record |
| 05:00.40 | JeffM | yeah that dosn't actualy REMOVE the bot |
| 05:00.41 | brlcad | looks like he uses a persistent id for each network/channel |
| 05:00.44 | JeffM | yeah |
| 05:00.52 | JeffM | they would have to go into the database and purge the record |
| 05:01.01 | JeffM | it's cus more then one person can use/own the bot |
| 05:01.08 | brlcad | which if they're going to do that, might as well just kick the bot and reset it |
| 05:01.28 | JeffM | there is no interface for that |
| 05:01.51 | brlcad | sure there is |
| 05:01.52 | brlcad | scanline |
| 05:02.02 | brlcad | i pinged him a lil while ago |
| 05:02.34 | JeffM | heh |
| 05:02.38 | JeffM | good luck on that one |
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| 05:15.15 | purple_cow | hah |
| 05:16.46 | CIA-MIA | test |
| 05:16.51 | JeffM | well at least that works |
| 05:19.16 | JeffM | hmm I got CIA 25 into the responder channel, but it's not posting commits |
| 05:21.42 | JeffM | hmm it must have issues, because the commits are reporting to cia 8, but not the other cia's in like libiRC |
| 05:21.48 | JeffM | must be the bots above 20 |
| 05:21.55 | brlcad | it posted to #brlcad |
| 05:22.02 | JeffM | what bot is there? |
| 05:22.03 | brlcad | brl-cad has 27 |
| 05:22.06 | JeffM | odd |
| 05:22.59 | purple_cow | it's not as simple as "above 20" |
| 05:23.02 | CIA-MIA | I like pie |
| 05:23.07 | JeffM | k |
| 05:23.25 | JeffM | so I guess I send it into commits and have it filter on prefix |
| 05:23.34 | JeffM | untill it's resolved |
| 05:42.20 | brlcad | they're all coming through fwiw |
| 05:42.51 | brlcad | mm.. wonder what'll happen if I add bz |
| 05:43.27 | JeffM | got a solution |
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| 05:52.36 | CIA-MIA | libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r305 10/trunk/libirc/examples/stupidBot/src/stupidBot.cpp: log the target channel on an echo |
| 05:52.47 | JeffM | well there is something:) |
| 05:53.02 | brlcad | heh |
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| 06:04.17 | CIA-MIA | libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r306 10/trunk/libirc/examples/stupidBot/readme.txt: mention echos |
| 06:04.57 | CIA-MIA | libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r307 10/trunk/libirc/examples/stupidBot/src/stupidBot.cpp: allow more then one CIA echo target per input channel and project |
| 06:05.22 | JeffM | brlcad: can you build libIRC and stupidbot on .bz? |
| 06:05.29 | JeffM | cus it'll echo from commits now :) |
| 06:06.07 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16192 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: whitespace(CIA test) |
| 06:09.17 | brlcad | yeah, it build |
| 06:09.59 | JeffM | in my home dir is sample.cfg |
| 06:10.12 | JeffM | put that in the same dir as stupidbot and run it |
| 06:10.27 | JeffM | in a screen or something |
| 06:13.00 | brlcad | hm, it's running |
| 06:13.14 | JeffM | did the output say it joined stuff? |
| 06:13.19 | brlcad | no output |
| 06:13.27 | JeffM | then it didn't find the config |
| 06:13.56 | JeffM | you can also pass in the config as argv |
| 06:14.25 | JeffM | unless it can't read win formated lines on nix |
| 06:14.46 | JeffM | on nix it's /n for a new line or /r? |
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| 06:16.36 | brlcad | yeah, it was the carriabe returns |
| 06:17.15 | CIA-MIA | libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r308 10/trunk/libirc/examples/stupidBot/src/stupidBot.cpp: make the bot be able to parse any kind of file for a config, win or nix, regardless of OS |
| 06:18.06 | JeffM | you want to build both my changes I think |
| 06:18.39 | JeffM | there may still be a crash on part with out the last fix |
| 06:19.24 | JeffM | that's the best solution I can think of untill they fix it, at least that keeps formating |
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| 06:19.34 | JeffM | the other option is to do RSS |
| 06:20.02 | brlcad | works |
| 06:20.06 | JeffM | cool |
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| 06:20.33 | JeffM | worst CIA hack, ever |
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| 06:21.51 | brlcad | there we go, detached |
| 06:22.21 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16193 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/TODO: .6 is long gone, lets say we want to prep for .10 |
| 06:28.14 | JeffM | yay! |
| 06:29.19 | brlcad | heh |
| 06:30.12 | brlcad | hehe.. the one I used did :) |
| 06:30.19 | JeffM | what did you do? |
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| 07:38.28 | Constitution | changed all the versions, etc., but didn't commit yet... made a patch for when we're ready to fire (in case I'm not here when that happens). |
| 07:38.31 | Constitution | http://fairserve.net/const/finalPatch.diff |
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| 13:52.47 | ts | Constitution: pong |
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| 17:05.10 | JeffM | saturos is on the job to make us a real .10 image, I'll commit it when I get it |
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| 17:19.12 | brlcad | coo |
| 17:24.55 | JeffM | did you try that bot again? |
| 17:25.01 | JeffM | I belive I fixed both crashes |
| 17:28.32 | brlcad | hmm.. |
| 17:28.38 | delusional_ | well, i did just about everything i can to pound on modeltool, tested static and bounding...even made an obj that should be a nightmare to process. The only thing that i dont like is... now that it announces the MTL file, it srrms stupid to not announce the OBJ file as well. |
| 17:28.39 | brlcad | it's running now, but not relaying |
| 17:28.54 | delusional_ | I'm about to test -striplimit |
| 17:28.56 | JeffM | wit didn't join any channels? |
| 17:29.12 | JeffM | delusional_, does your php tool convert the model correctly? |
| 17:30.09 | delusional_ | jeff, i fixed that model with the -w tool in stripe |
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| 17:30.19 | delusional_ | -w function, that is |
| 17:30.22 | JeffM | you still have YET to answer my question |
| 17:30.47 | delusional_ | I havent messes wit di-machine in a few daays |
| 17:31.12 | delusional_ | but no it didnt |
| 17:31.31 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16199 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/plugins/torBlock/torBlock.cpp: quell warnings |
| 17:31.44 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16200 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/plugins/nagware/nagware.cpp: quell warnings |
| 17:32.19 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16201 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/game/ServerItem.cxx: quell bool warnings. |
| 17:32.25 | delusional_ | what happened was di-machine would convert it, then bzfs would crash on load. with the latest changes to modeltool, i get the same behavior |
| 17:32.38 | delusional_ | unless i -w in stripe |
| 17:32.45 | JeffM | ok, so then it was most likely the model, NOT the tool |
| 17:32.51 | JeffM | that's what I wanted to know, if it was my tool |
| 17:32.51 | delusional_ | yes |
| 17:33.15 | JeffM | well lets hope that the bot can run for it bit |
| 17:33.36 | JeffM | if it crashes again brlcad I'll run it here on my laptop in a debuger to day and see where it dies, get good libIRC testing ;) |
| 17:35.40 | delusional_ | sure wish i could compile this, it has a lot more options than stripe http://users.pandora.be/tfautre/softdev/tristripper/ doesnt seem to recognize intel-mac arch |
| 17:36.46 | JeffM | so fix it ;) |
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| 17:38.14 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r16202 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/game/ServerItem.cxx: quell/clarify |
| 18:08.34 | brlcad | JeffM: how's the config file work -- what are the multiple nick and channel lines? alternate nicks to try, and all channels to join? |
| 18:08.49 | JeffM | yes |
| 18:08.53 | brlcad | there are other folks interested in us relaying for them.. :) |
| 18:09.08 | JeffM | I'll have a commit in a sec that will fix another possible bug |
| 18:09.11 | JeffM | so one sec |
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| 18:11.34 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: JeffM2501 * r16203 /trunk/bzflag/ (65 files in 6 dirs): Convert the radar system to use a more realistic system. |
| 18:11.34 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: * make the visability of radar go down as the "beam" passes through more material. |
| 18:11.34 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: * limit radar size to 10% of the screen. |
| 18:11.42 | JeffM | ok let me work on it now |
| 18:12.32 | BenUrban | "visibility" or "viability"... |
| 18:12.36 | BenUrban | </nitpick> |
| 18:12.38 | JeffM | sorry |
| 18:12.42 | JeffM | it's just a commit comment |
| 18:12.52 | JeffM | I can spellcheck the code later |
| 18:13.10 | JeffM | brlcad, libIRC was updated, so that should let you do more people better |
| 18:14.51 | brlcad | it just crashed there |
| 18:15.05 | JeffM | k |
| 18:15.16 | JeffM | send me the current config and I'll setup the debuger with it |
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| 18:15.41 | JeffM | or not |
| 18:15.46 | brlcad | :) |
| 18:15.49 | JeffM | is that with current code? |
| 18:15.49 | brlcad | see if it repeats |
| 18:15.52 | brlcad | yeah |
| 18:15.54 | JeffM | ok |
| 18:15.55 | brlcad | just updated |
| 18:16.55 | JeffM | k |
| 18:17.03 | JeffM | I hope there are no more part issues |
| 18:17.41 | delusional_ | looking at one part of macsforme's commit, this has changed in commit history... first it was -jitterdrop, then it was changed to -packetlossdrop.... now it's changed back to -jitterdrop, which is correct? |
| 18:17.51 | brlcad | would be useful to add a signal handler so I could send it a HUP to reload the config |
| 18:18.12 | JeffM | brlcad, if I knew what those were...... |
| 18:18.15 | brlcad | jitter != packetloss |
| 18:18.25 | delusional_ | both are correct? |
| 18:18.41 | brlcad | depends what the switch does |
| 18:19.15 | blast007 | delusional_: they are separate things |
| 18:19.46 | delusional_ | ah, sp - jitterdrop and packetlossdrop can be used simultaneously? |
| 18:19.46 | blast007 | delusional_: what exactly are you looking at for "commit history" ? |
| 18:20.00 | blast007 | yeah... |
| 18:20.08 | blast007 | packet loss is lost packets |
| 18:20.28 | JeffM | jitter is change in lag |
| 18:20.33 | blast007 | jitter is variance in the latency |
| 18:20.44 | blast007 | yeah, what jeff said ;) |
| 18:21.13 | delusional_ | ok i get it, both can be used for slightly different purposes |
| 18:21.28 | delusional_ | jitterdrop is for F5-ers |
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| 18:41.33 | CIA-MIA | libirc: 03JeffM2501 * r313 10/trunk/libirc/examples/stupidBot/src/stupidBot.cpp: |
| 18:41.33 | CIA-MIA | libirc: save off the echo settings on a flush |
| 18:42.01 | CIA-MIA | libirc: add command to set echos in realtime |
| 18:48.15 | JeffM | now to get to work on those pesky flags |
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| 20:55.36 | Constitution | ts: just had a question about the -lagannounce and -adminlagannounce bzfs cmd-line options |
| 20:57.14 | Constitution | how's the header image with the new version coming? |
| 21:03.14 | Constitution | nvm, read the backlog |
| 21:05.05 | tannerld | heh |
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| 21:16.12 | JeffM | saturos said he'd work on it today |
| 21:18.43 | ts | Constitution: So all questions answered yet? |
| 21:19.51 | ts | 6 |
| 21:19.54 | ts | oops |
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| 21:21.03 | JeffM | Constitution, saturos is on aim now if you want to bug him about it. |
| 21:21.06 | Constitution | ts: I think so... just to make sure, who does -lagannounce send the announcements to? is it all the players? |
| 21:21.13 | JeffM | brlcad, is it crashing? or are you adding people? |
| 21:21.30 | ts | Constitution: Yep, all players. I did it for offis in GU league |
| 21:21.44 | Constitution | okay, thanks |
| 21:22.19 | JeffM | Constitution, I've done a test build and fixed the last of the warnings for VC, so all it needs is the image and I'm good to go |
| 21:22.22 | ts | The repetition delay is different for the admin lagannouce, IIRC |
| 21:22.54 | Constitution | JeffM: k, I'm going to commit nk so... just to make sure, who does -lagannoun |
| 21:22.58 | Constitution | oops |
| 21:23.17 | Constitution | rather, I'm going to commit http://fairserve.net/const/finalPatch.diff once we have everything else, then I think we're all set |
| 21:23.41 | JeffM | i doubt it'll be final, but sure |
| 21:28.41 | ts | JeffM: Yes...but it shares lots of code with lagwarn..so I choose to integrate it directly. |
| 21:29.33 | JeffM | so dos it dupe code internaly? or just call commn functions? |
| 21:46.11 | JeffM | Constitution, seems CIA is busted a lot higher now, Constitution it's commited |
| 21:48.09 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16203 10/trunk/bzflag/TODO: Note plans to modify the title image to not have a version in the image, but to use GL to draw it from the code version. |
| 21:48.18 | JeffM | or it's just rather slow |
| 21:48.53 | JeffM | damn, still has the part bug :( |
| 21:48.59 | JeffM | brlcad, ping! |
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| 21:49.32 | brlcad | arg |
| 21:49.41 | JeffM | brlcad, actualy send me the config |
| 21:49.49 | JeffM | it's still an on part bug, I want to debug it |
| 21:49.54 | JeffM | unless you can give me a stack dump |
| 21:50.22 | Constitution | JeffM: ok |
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| 21:55.07 | Winny | wheee |
| 21:55.07 | JeffMFishbone | niven died |
| 21:55.07 | Winny | looks like brown to me |
| 21:55.07 | JeffMFishbone | I was on niven, could not connect back |
| 21:55.07 | Winny | ah, hm |
| 21:55.08 | JeffMFishbone | brown was probably conencted thru niven |
| 21:55.08 | *** topic/#bzflag by Constitution -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://my.bzflag.org/w/ || 2.0.10 is rolling. |
| 21:56.30 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffMFishbone -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://my.bzflag.org/w/ || 2.0.10 is releasing now. |
| 21:56.30 | Winny | ooh, as in, right now? |
| 21:56.47 | JeffMFishbone | that's the plan stan |
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| 21:56.47 | Winny | yay |
| 21:56.47 | JeffMFishbone | Constitution, update and tag away |
| 21:56.47 | Constitution | yessir |
| 21:57.03 | Winny | hey donny |
| 21:57.35 | JeffMFishbone | are the man pages updated? |
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| 21:59.33 | Constitution | JeffM2501: you mean updated with all the new command-line options? |
| 21:59.33 | JeffM2501 | are they in the final form you want them to be in? |
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| 22:01.45 | JeffM2501 | I have to run a tool to get them into HTML format |
| 22:01.45 | JeffM2501 | so I wanted to make sure they were current with whatever |
| 22:01.45 | JeffM2501 | if yes, cool |
| 22:02.43 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16207 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/package/win32/nsis/bzflag.exe.manifest: bump manifest version to match build |
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| 22:04.39 | Constitution | well at least they have the stuff that was missing from the sample conf and web conf builder |
| 22:04.53 | JeffM2501 | good enough |
| 22:04.56 | Constitution | k |
| 22:05.00 | JeffM2501 | so yes, they are what we want for release, that's all |
| 22:05.19 | JeffM2501 | cus it looks like your patch is applied |
| 22:05.27 | JeffM2501 | so just the tag and we are set right? |
| 22:05.41 | Constitution | yep... doing that now |
| 22:05.48 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 22:05.51 | JeffM2501 | windows build is done |
| 22:06.22 | JeffM2501 | can someone test it for me? |
| 22:06.49 | Winny | ok |
| 22:07.10 | JeffM2501 | it'll take a sec to upload |
| 22:09.13 | JeffM2501 | http://www.opencombat.net\bzflag-2.0.10.exe |
| 22:09.24 | CIA-MIA | BZFlag: 03macsforme * r16208 10/tags/v2_0_10/: Tag 2.0.10 final. |
| 22:09.41 | Constitution | oh it worked, even |
| 22:09.42 | JeffM2501 | bah http://www.opencombat.net/bzflag-2.0.10.exe |
| 22:09.53 | Constitution | was hoping I wouldn't have to check out the whole repo :P |
| 22:10.05 | JeffM2501 | naw that's what SVN does for you |
| 22:11.05 | Winny | JeffM2501: seems to be working fine |
| 22:11.12 | JeffM2501 | hanks |
| 22:11.14 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 22:11.23 | JeffM2501 | it's just the final test to make sure I didn't miss any DLLs ;) |
| 22:11.30 | Winny | :p |
| 22:11.33 | Constitution | k, I'm checking out and building dists... will be ready for upload shortly |
| 22:15.23 | JeffM2501 | windows is up |
| 22:17.57 | JeffM2501 | as is the mainpage news |
| 22:18.14 | JeffM2501 | will wait till some of the other platforms are up before doing the forums |
| 22:18.18 | Winny | bzflag.oldsite? |
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| 22:18.24 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM2501 -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://my.bzflag.org/w/ || 2.0.10 is out, now shuddap. |
| 22:18.40 | Winny | Here's to 2.0.12! ;) |
| 22:18.55 | JeffM2501 | / kick Winny |
| 22:19.06 | Winny | little error on the mainpage |
| 22:19.12 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 22:19.13 | Winny | "BZFlag 2.0.8 "oops, Happy Mother's Day" released - May 13, 2006, 12:07 PM by JeffM" is in the text of the article as well |
| 22:19.17 | JeffM2501 | oops |
| 22:19.19 | Winny | might wanna remove it ;) |
| 22:19.43 | JeffM2501 | dunno what your talking about |
| 22:19.45 | JeffM2501 | can't see it |
| 22:19.47 | JeffM2501 | nosir |
| 22:19.50 | JeffM2501 | not there |
| 22:19.52 | Winny | haha |
| 22:20.57 | Winny | does the multithread stuff happen by default, or is it a config option? |
| 22:20.57 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 22:20.57 | JeffM2501 | what mutltithread stuff? |
| 22:21.05 | Winny | uh, the thing on the mainpage, before you chnaged it mentioned stuff about multithread.. |
| 22:21.12 | JeffM2501 | no, read what I said |
| 22:21.15 | JeffM2501 | I said dual core |
| 22:21.21 | JeffM2501 | we generaly use one thread |
| 22:21.32 | JeffM2501 | we fixed bugs with the clock that got screwed up on multicore systems |
| 22:21.35 | Winny | oh |
| 22:21.51 | Constitution | oops, I put in tomorrow's date |
| 22:22.29 | Constitution | must've been confused early this morning |
| 22:22.43 | JeffM2501 | we'll live |
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| 22:24.08 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, we released it |
| 22:24.15 | JeffM2501 | so you can do your gentoo magic now :) |
| 22:24.23 | Tupone | Yeah, I saw in the topic :) |
| 22:24.56 | JeffM2501 | Constitution, is doing the source distors, win is up, and did the news page and downloads page |
| 22:24.56 | Tupone | just a question. Is glew used ? |
| 22:25.06 | JeffM2501 | depends on the build |
| 22:25.10 | JeffM2501 | it is optinal |
| 22:25.19 | JeffM2501 | if it is there, you can do anisotropic filtering |
| 22:25.22 | JeffM2501 | I build windows with it |
| 22:25.29 | Tupone | ok, I will look in the configure.ac |
| 22:25.30 | JeffM2501 | OSX does not build with it |
| 22:25.47 | JeffM2501 | so for the ebuild, I dunno what you want to do |
| 22:25.54 | JeffM2501 | it's nice to have, but not a requirement |
| 22:25.59 | JeffM2501 | aniso looks a lot better |
| 22:26.05 | Tupone | gentoo cannot do a magical, I should use or I should not use or put a use flag for it |
| 22:26.21 | JeffM2501 | if it's a standard package in gentoo, I say use it |
| 22:26.38 | JeffM2501 | I've never seen stability problems with it, it's a rather simple lib |
| 22:27.15 | Tupone | well, that depends on how much glew is stable (or existing) on the other architecture |
| 22:27.17 | JeffM2501 | to anyone who uploads a build, please also update the Download wiki page with the proper URLs. http://my.bzflag.org/w/Download |
| 22:27.24 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 22:27.25 | Tupone | other respect to x86/amd64 |
| 22:27.30 | JeffM2501 | well you know better then I :) |
| 22:27.35 | TimRiker | so ya went and pulled the trigger? |
| 22:27.38 | JeffM2501 | I could see it not existing in stuff like ARM |
| 22:27.40 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 22:27.42 | JeffM2501 | it was done |
| 22:27.46 | TimRiker | heh |
| 22:27.57 | TimRiker | guess I should push up a debian build then. |
| 22:28.01 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 22:28.21 | JeffM2501 | then the AMD and dual core peole can play again |
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| 22:28.41 | Winny | au |
| 22:28.42 | JeffM2501 | hah! |
| 22:28.47 | JeffM2501 | I tested that one |
| 22:28.54 | JeffM2501 | it just has a part bug |
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| 22:29.26 | JeffM2501 | damn |
| 22:29.32 | Winny | hehe |
| 22:29.35 | JeffM2501 | realy need a stack trace from that |
| 22:29.44 | JeffM2501 | it's a stopgap |
| 22:29.52 | JeffM2501 | untill real CIA gets fixed |
| 22:30.07 | Tupone | who uploaded the source? |
| 22:30.24 | JeffM2501 | Constitution, is geting that set up now |
| 22:30.40 | JeffM2501 | so he can learn how it all works ;) |
| 22:30.44 | JeffM2501 | training day |
| 22:30.48 | Constitution | :) |
| 22:31.12 | Tupone | geting? I saw already there. So he did just now? |
| 22:31.20 | JeffM2501 | dunno, ask him |
| 22:31.27 | Constitution | almost there |
| 22:31.37 | Constitution | being... very... careful :) |
| 22:32.11 | Tupone | Constitution: source are done with make dist I guess. And you tested with make distcheck |
| 22:32.24 | Constitution | indeed |
| 22:32.44 | TimRiker | with no username or other contact info. |
| 22:33.08 | Constitution | okay, tarballs on sf are up |
| 22:33.21 | TimRiker | make dist tarball? and .zip too? |
| 22:33.27 | Constitution | yes |
| 22:34.52 | TimRiker | cool cool. |
| 22:35.43 | Constitution | haha nice how our source architectures vary between "Any" and "Platform-Independent" :D |
| 22:35.50 | Constitution | almost perfect alternation |
| 22:39.00 | JeffM2501 | the make dist makes a zip for us now automagicly :) |
| 22:39.13 | JeffM2501 | Constitution, yeah depends who does it |
| 22:39.33 | Constitution | shall I make a news entry on sf? |
| 22:39.47 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, I am rather suprised how many kids actualy got a parent to send a letter in |
| 22:39.56 | JeffM2501 | Constitution, we generaly don't but if you want to |
| 22:40.02 | JeffM2501 | no harm in it |
| 22:42.47 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: yeah, me too. the COPPA group is quite large now. |
| 22:43.10 | JeffM2501 | nearing 100 IIRC |
| 22:43.31 | Winny | wow |
| 22:43.32 | JeffM2501 | yay for 100 responsible parrents! |
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| 22:43.38 | Winny | I never figured that many people would bother |
| 22:44.35 | JeffM2501 | fear keeps the children in line |
| 22:44.42 | JeffM2501 | fear of this battlestation! |
| 22:45.20 | Winny | sorta like beatings will continue until morale improves? |
| 22:45.45 | TimRiker | and then we still have servers like planet mofo around. I still wish they would willingly choose another name, and domain for that matter. |
| 22:45.59 | JeffM2501 | you don't know them very well do you ;) |
| 22:46.10 | TimRiker | I'm wishing. not expecting. |
| 22:46.56 | TimRiker | we should likely add a banlist on the server for non-coppa members. hide the server(s) from the returned list. |
| 22:47.21 | TimRiker | ie: you're in coppa? you don't see servers with x,y,z in the name. |
| 22:48.33 | Winny | most 12-13 year olds I know know what "mofo" means, but that really isn't an excuse |
| 22:49.00 | TimRiker | well, I hear my 5 yr old wandering about the house role playing bzflag games on planet mofo. |
| 22:49.08 | TimRiker | it does not go over well with the wife. |
| 22:49.29 | TimRiker | fortunately he does not refer to it by it's domain name. |
| 22:51.36 | JeffM2501 | yes there is lots we can do with the list server |
| 22:51.44 | JeffM2501 | groups, hidiung, game types, etc... |
| 22:52.06 | JeffM2501 | I'd like to have the server give them a rating |
| 22:52.11 | JeffM2501 | so we could stamp it as "T" |
| 22:52.13 | JeffM2501 | for teen |
| 22:52.26 | JeffM2501 | then you could set a filter and not show anything over PG, etc.. |
| 22:53.01 | JeffM2501 | default the servers to T, then make an applicaton process to get set as prefreed, and marked as G or something |
| 22:55.18 | Tupone | :( glew link/usage seems automagical |
| 22:55.42 | JeffM2501 | then don't require it in the ebuild and it just won't be used, it's not a HUGE loss |
| 22:55.54 | Tupone | no, I cannot. |
| 22:55.59 | Tupone | Not that easy |
| 22:56.03 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 22:56.06 | JeffM2501 | what can you do? |
| 22:56.23 | Tupone | if they build and glew is there, bzflag will link with it |
| 22:56.36 | JeffM2501 | and the problem with that is? |
| 22:56.53 | Tupone | if then someone remove glew, or someone was building bzflag binary |
| 22:57.08 | Tupone | it install without a written dependency |
| 22:57.09 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 22:57.17 | JeffM2501 | can you then just require glew? |
| 22:57.29 | Tupone | yeah, I'm looking at it |
| 22:58.11 | Tupone | but glew is linked at load time? |
| 22:58.19 | Tupone | or is like a plugin? |
| 22:59.15 | JeffM2501 | on windows it is a DLL |
| 22:59.21 | JeffM2501 | so most likely |
| 22:59.36 | Tupone | yeah, linked at load time |
| 23:00.02 | JeffM2501 | can a board admin please proofread this |
| 23:00.02 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=117198 |
| 23:00.41 | Winny | it might be a major disaster if someone from jeffM is not proofread ;) |
| 23:00.49 | JeffM2501 | hence why I ask |
| 23:01.07 | JeffM2501 | but then I also based it off DTR's post for .4 so it's possible that it's good. |
| 23:01.13 | Tupone | ~alpha ~amd64 ~hppa ~ia64 ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd (from glew). Seems enough |
| 23:01.29 | JeffM2501 | nice] |
| 23:01.36 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's prety darn good |
| 23:02.21 | JeffM2501 | it's probably not a hard lib to stub out on other platforms, since as a default it just passes things thru to openGL and tells the caller that it dosn't support any extended features. |
| 23:02.51 | Tupone | but I hope usage of glew in the next release will be configurable, and not only autodetected |
| 23:03.03 | Erroneous | some other package manager was complaining about the same issue |
| 23:03.11 | JeffM2501 | it will most likley be made into a dependency |
| 23:03.19 | Erroneous | long time ago |
| 23:03.22 | JeffM2501 | if we use it for mutli-texture and some other stuff. |
| 23:03.55 | JeffM2501 | I'd like to use it to detect the need to do power of 2 scaling, etc.. |
| 23:05.01 | JeffM2501 | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m26f17c9c |
| 23:05.15 | JeffM2501 | there now can anyone proofread it ( not the change log part, that's copy/paste) |
| 23:05.54 | Winny | TimRiker: thanks for the IP change |
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| 23:06.03 | TimRiker | np. :) |
| 23:06.09 | Tupone | throughout ? not just through? |
| 23:06.43 | JeffM2501 | both are correct english |
| 23:06.47 | JeffM2501 | tho I think I'll say week |
| 23:06.49 | JeffM2501 | not day |
| 23:06.50 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: looks okay to me assuming the link is correct |
| 23:07.30 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 23:07.52 | Thumper_ | link works |
| 23:07.56 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 23:08.08 | JeffM2501 | I did test that part ;) |
| 23:08.16 | Thumper_ | me2 :) |
| 23:08.34 | JeffM2501 | never a bad thing |
| 23:08.47 | JeffM2501 | Constitution, don't forget to update http://my.bzflag.org/w/Download with the sources |
| 23:08.51 | JeffM2501 | or I can if you want |
| 23:08.53 | Constitution | k |
| 23:09.00 | I_Died_Once | As far as people in here that doesnt like the name of my server "Planet MoFo" and that wish for me to change my domain....... |
| 23:09.10 | JeffM2501 | its' basicly just copy it from the last one and change |
| 23:09.41 | I_Died_Once | Every time I've tried to work with people in here on SEVERAL issues for the past few years, the attitude has always been "our way or the highway" |
| 23:09.49 | I_Died_Once | and no room or willingness to work with me |
| 23:10.22 | JeffM2501 | I call bs on that, but whatever |
| 23:10.33 | JeffM2501 | servers are independent, they do what they want |
| 23:10.44 | I_Died_Once | well I aint changing the name of mine |
| 23:10.53 | JeffM2501 | we have our guildelines and we try to apply them to eveyrone the same |
| 23:10.57 | I_Died_Once | that aint SO MUCH directed at you personally, Jeff |
| 23:11.02 | JeffM2501 | noone said you had to, he just said he wished that it would. |
| 23:11.04 | I_Died_Once | believe it or not |
| 23:11.06 | JeffM2501 | I know, |
| 23:11.48 | JeffM2501 | I just have seen people bust out some things just for you in here. |
| 23:11.55 | JeffM2501 | chronjob anyone? |
| 23:12.08 | I_Died_Once | that was DTR |
| 23:12.12 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
| 23:12.18 | I_Died_Once | who is an ace in my book |
| 23:12.45 | I_Died_Once | not that my opinion is held in that high of a reguard |
| 23:13.35 | JeffM2501 | I think it's held at the same level as the other large server owners, don't shortchange yourself |
| 23:14.05 | delusional | I like the idea of a coppa banlist, we dont want the 10 Y.O.'s anyway, would that work like -antiAdvertise |
| 23:14.06 | I_Died_Once | I'd be willing ti work with RIker if he'd be willing to listen to reason or jus tbe human, but his nasty attitude and way of dealing with things.... |
| 23:14.19 | JeffM2501 | kinda |
| 23:14.23 | JeffM2501 | banlist is a bad term |
| 23:14.35 | JeffM2501 | tho you could auto ban anyone who is in the coppa group |
| 23:14.40 | JeffM2501 | since we do keep one |
| 23:14.52 | I_Died_Once | yeah, as server owner of one of BZFLags TOP FIVE servers, I agree about the coppa banlist |
| 23:15.04 | JeffM2501 | you have that tech now, just use the group |
| 23:15.16 | JeffM2501 | tho I think you'd need a plugin |
| 23:15.21 | JeffM2501 | woudln't be hard to write |
| 23:15.38 | JeffM2501 | groupban |
| 23:15.40 | delusional | I definitely like that idea |
| 23:15.59 | JeffM2501 | want me to make the plug-in, it'd be cake (if we have the hook I'm thinking off ) |
| 23:16.00 | I_Died_Once | also, I still say you guys ought to add a perm to autopilot |
| 23:16.20 | JeffM2501 | we ogut to do lots of things ;) |
| 23:16.25 | delusional | sure jeff, we'd like that. |
| 23:17.47 | JeffM2501 | you want it to read from a passed in file? |
| 23:17.50 | JeffM2501 | or just hard coded groups? |
| 23:18.09 | delusional | it seems like "-antiAdvertise COPPA.group" would be the best way to do it. so they dont even see us on the list. |
| 23:18.24 | JeffM2501 | that I can't do with a plugin |
| 23:18.34 | delusional | couuld still get in by manually adding the port though |
| 23:18.35 | JeffM2501 | we do that on the list server level |
| 23:18.51 | JeffM2501 | so that's a feature idea for the new list |
| 23:19.17 | JeffM2501 | I can just make it boot them if they auth and are in some group |
| 23:19.38 | delusional | if you write it, we will use a plugin. |
| 23:19.55 | I_Died_Once | yeah, we aint scared of no plugins |
| 23:19.55 | JeffM2501 | doing it now, it's just a small mod of torblock |
| 23:20.14 | JeffM2501 | but do you want it to use a hardcoded group? or take in a file that it parses? |
| 23:20.29 | delusional | you maintain COPPA |
| 23:20.34 | delusional | not us |
| 23:20.39 | delusional | so harrdcoded |
| 23:20.44 | JeffM2501 | yeah but do you want to use it for OTHER groups? |
| 23:20.52 | JeffM2501 | your own groups, etc.. |
| 23:20.58 | delusional | hmmm that could bbe evil |
| 23:20.59 | JeffM2501 | it can be used for more then coppa |
| 23:21.09 | JeffM2501 | or usefull, depending on what you want to do |
| 23:21.49 | delusional | i dont care, whatever way is easiest for you |
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| 23:25.58 | TimRiker | I_Died_Once: huh? what's my "nasty attitude" ? I thought I was the one they kept you on the list server in the first place when others wanted a server ban. |
| 23:26.56 | I_Died_Once | hell, we are capable of hosting the list server itself now |
| 23:27.09 | JeffM2501 | the actual host dosn't matter |
| 23:27.14 | JeffM2501 | it's the data and the URL |
| 23:27.38 | brlcad | howdy The_Vaxorcist |
| 23:27.54 | brlcad | JeffM2501: I presume you noticed that it auto-rejoins now |
| 23:28.02 | The_Vaxorcist | hi |
| 23:28.38 | JeffM2501 | yeah, tho I still want a stack dump |
| 23:28.44 | JeffM2501 | can you get me one, so I can fix the crash |
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| 23:30.57 | Constitution | JeffM2501: wiki page updated |
| 23:31.03 | JeffM2501 | thanks man |
| 23:31.09 | Constitution | np |
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| 23:37.23 | Tupone | is SDL_image useful? configure.ac is wrong for detecting that? |
| 23:37.34 | JeffM2501 | yes and no |
| 23:37.39 | JeffM2501 | it lets BZ read stuff other then PNG |
| 23:38.02 | JeffM2501 | but since it's not universal, aka no windows, it's pointless to use images other then PNG |
| 23:38.46 | Tupone | ok. So I disable usage of that. "x$sdl_image_check" = "yes" should have been written "x$sdl_image_check" = "xyes" |
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| 23:50.33 | brlcad | JeffM2501: http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/mbc934a7 |
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| 23:56.26 | brlcad | and http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m4da20168 |
| 23:56.57 | Tupone | gentooists: bzflag ebuild is uploaded. In about 1 hour it will hit portage |
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