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| 00:32.34 | whodaman- | donny_baker~++ |
| 00:33.02 | Constitution | that would be |
| 00:33.08 | Constitution | ~donny_baker++ |
| 00:33.14 | Constitution | :) |
| 00:33.18 | whodaman- | DOH |
| 00:33.43 | whodaman- | ~donny_baker++ |
| 00:33.44 | whodaman- | there |
| 00:33.56 | whodaman- | thanks Constitution |
| 00:34.01 | Constitution | np |
| 00:41.56 | spldart | That's~ |
| 00:41.58 | spldart | ~donny_baker++ |
| 00:42.00 | spldart | ?> |
| 00:42.41 | a_meteorite | may I ask ... why? |
| 00:42.49 | spldart | No |
| 00:42.56 | a_meteorite | It is a secret? |
| 00:43.07 | a_temp_dist | MYOB |
| 00:43.13 | a_meteorite | ~dict MYOB |
| 00:43.33 | spldart | LOLOL |
| 00:43.47 | a_meteorite | 4 extra karmas in 15 minutes, must have been something big? |
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| 00:44.10 | spldart | Wouldn't you like to know? ;-D |
| 00:44.15 | a_meteorite | Absolutely. |
| 00:44.34 | Constitution | a_meteorite: BZFlag has a new maintainer |
| 00:44.36 | spldart | Mr. Pandora |
| 00:44.42 | a_meteorite | What?! |
| 00:44.57 | spldart | ~dict Pandora |
| 00:45.03 | a_meteorite | I hope this is a joke. |
| 00:46.33 | donny_baker | what is a joke a_meteorite ? |
| 00:47.03 | a_meteorite | donny_baker: You're BZFlag's new maintainer? |
| 00:47.21 | a_meteorite | Nothing on the board. |
| 00:47.48 | spldart | "Nothing up my sleeve" |
| 00:47.55 | spldart | "Presto!!!" |
| 00:48.41 | donny_baker | a_meteorite: I am? |
| 00:48.59 | a_meteorite | <Constitution> a_meteorite: BZFlag has a new maintainer |
| 00:49.16 | donny_baker | oh, maybe |
| 00:49.38 | a_meteorite | That's not particularly insightful. |
| 00:49.58 | spldart | In-sight is Over-rated |
| 00:51.32 | spldart | --sorry roger. You tiger now.-- |
| 00:52.43 | Winny | congrats, donny_baker |
| 00:56.01 | a_meteorite | Where can this be confirmed? |
| 00:56.15 | a_meteorite | Or is this some sick Halloween joke? |
| 01:00.06 | a_temp_dist | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.57 | CBG | how did everyone find out? |
| 01:02.28 | whodaman- | lol |
| 01:02.55 | CBG | who let the cat out? |
| 01:03.02 | Winny | the dog |
| 01:03.09 | CBG | damn that dog. |
| 01:03.17 | CBG | always spoiling the best surprises |
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| 01:07.17 | a_meteorite | I'm confused. |
| 01:07.27 | a_meteorite | a_temp_dist: Because it's not announced. |
| 01:07.32 | CBG | Mr Riker'll set ya straight. |
| 01:07.46 | CBG | a_meteorite: maybe it's not 100% official yet. |
| 01:07.54 | Winny | a_meteorite: jesus himself came and danced on my desk and told me |
| 01:08.00 | a_meteorite | Wow |
| 01:08.10 | CBG | You call that a dance?! |
| 01:08.17 | a_temp_dist | it's hard to dance in sandals |
| 01:08.22 | whodaman- | lol |
| 01:08.23 | a_meteorite | Winny: You serious? |
| 01:08.25 | whodaman- | and robs |
| 01:08.33 | CBG | robs suck. |
| 01:08.37 | a_meteorite | Robes. |
| 01:09.03 | whodaman- | err *robes |
| 01:09.03 | whodaman- | but it's jesus, comeon everything goes |
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| 01:11.46 | spldart | OMMFGROFLOLTIBAN |
| 01:12.10 | CBG | LOLTIBAN? :O |
| 01:12.42 | spldart | YoU wOnT bAn Me! |
| 01:12.46 | spldart | Now... |
| 01:12.49 | spldart | I wonder.... does it irritate people if a player comes in.. makes a capture with a little support from their team but mostly single handed then jumps out of the map.. Obviously moslty does it irritate the oppossite team |
| 01:12.55 | spldart | since I didnt' |
| 01:13.04 | spldart | get an answer in bzchat |
| 01:13.05 | spldart | hehe |
| 01:13.21 | CBG | bzchat ftl |
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| 01:14.19 | spldart | I wont give the real meaning to that last bit of literation since I don't want a ban |
| 01:14.27 | spldart | Or at least a kick |
| 01:18.13 | JeffM | yay for dell cupons |
| 01:18.58 | donny_baker | gettin you a new machine Jeff? |
| 01:19.06 | JeffM | ordered a new laptop |
| 01:19.19 | JeffM | ended up geting 475$ off |
| 01:19.25 | whodaman- | wow, nice |
| 01:19.27 | spldart | sweet |
| 01:19.30 | donny_baker | :D I have a new dell laptop, i love it |
| 01:19.39 | JeffM | and if I can get somone to buy my current lapy for 400ish, then I'll be golden :) |
| 01:19.46 | spldart | LOL |
| 01:19.48 | bryjen | coo-pins |
| 01:19.55 | spldart | I would be in the market... a few months ago |
| 01:20.00 | spldart | thanks ron white |
| 01:20.06 | donny_baker | what is your current lappy? |
| 01:20.11 | spldart | ;-P |
| 01:20.36 | JeffM | ended up geting a 2.2 gig core 2, 120 gig drive, GeFroce 8600(256) with the high res display, and 2 9 cell bateries freo 955$ |
| 01:20.46 | JeffM | my current laptop is a gateway 15 incher |
| 01:20.59 | donny_baker | D830? |
| 01:21.00 | JeffM | AMD TL 50, gig of ram, 120 gig drive |
| 01:21.13 | JeffM | ATI X1150 chipset with 128 megs of ram |
| 01:21.28 | JeffM | and a DVD burner |
| 01:21.41 | spldart | Poop... I woulda snapped that up a few months ago |
| 01:22.21 | JeffM | I'm taking the 2 gigs of ram out of the gateway and puting it in the dell when it gets here, so the gateway will have a gig of new ram |
| 01:22.43 | JeffM | and Vista home permium |
| 01:23.22 | spldart | You happy with the vista variable? |
| 01:23.23 | JeffM | it's a gateway MT6451 |
| 01:23.35 | JeffM | oh god no, I replaced it with XP the moment I got it |
| 01:23.47 | JeffM | thankfully the new dell comes with XP |
| 01:23.56 | spldart | Ah.. IC |
| 01:24.19 | JeffM | but I'll put the OEM vista back on the old one before I sell it |
| 01:24.38 | JeffM | since it's tied to the hardware |
| 01:24.57 | JeffM | I figure 400$ is a decent price for a machine that's been used for 6 months |
| 01:25.05 | JeffM | got it for 699$ |
| 01:25.22 | spldart | it's a good price.. don't haggle down for nobody |
| 01:25.59 | spldart | I wish I had the 4C laying around still... You wouldn't even have to reinstall vista ;) |
| 01:27.20 | donny_baker | that is a pretty nice machine for $400.. even being a Gateway :P |
| 01:27.31 | JeffM | it's run fine for me |
| 01:27.37 | JeffM | I just need more screen res |
| 01:27.47 | JeffM | its' 1280x800 |
| 01:28.17 | spldart | safe trip |
| 01:41.14 | Blue89 | do you guys know anything about getting mesaGL to run faster? I want to play BZFlag on my Zaurus but I'm only getting <10fps... |
| 01:43.58 | spldart | Ummm |
| 01:45.06 | spldart | That's not alot of power to run 3d |
| 01:45.31 | spldart | but sry.. No idea to get mesaGL optimized from me :( |
| 01:45.43 | Blue89 | well I'm not expecting it to run 1280x960 with full lighting and bump mapping ;-) |
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| 01:46.30 | spldart | Didn't think you were... was thinking along the line of 640 or 800 |
| 01:46.42 | Blue89 | I'm running bzflag at 320x240 with all options off. if I knew how to get it into wireframe mode I think I could get 20fps out of it. |
| 01:46.52 | spldart | ahrm |
| 01:47.11 | spldart | does that run X? |
| 01:47.15 | Blue89 | that's not very fast, but great for killing time. bzflag in your pocket ;-) |
| 01:47.18 | Blue89 | yes it does |
| 01:47.18 | spldart | color depth? |
| 01:47.38 | Blue89 | 640x480 device, but I am stepping it down to 320x240 so BZFlag can run faster |
| 01:47.51 | Blue89 | full color, 24bit I think |
| 01:47.56 | Blue89 | same as the desktop |
| 01:48.08 | Blue89 | IIRC |
| 01:48.15 | spldart | hrm |
| 01:49.01 | spldart | Dont' know where your bottleneck is worst but have you tried dropping colordepth... just outta curiousity... Thinking mesa optimization ideas still |
| 01:49.47 | Blue89 | it's an xscale device, I can step it up from 416mhz to 624mhz, but then it starts acting strange |
| 01:50.13 | Blue89 | X crashes, no programs load, sockets die I think |
| 01:50.21 | spldart | right |
| 01:50.59 | spldart | it's alittle alien to me so I wont be the most helpful... but hopefully the conversation will get others interested in throwing in their 2 bits |
| 01:51.10 | Blue89 | yeah |
| 01:51.21 | Blue89 | the #zaurus people are no help |
| 01:51.56 | spldart | Hrm.. Where have I heard that problem before recently... Oh Yeah! Nvidia :mad: |
| 01:52.04 | spldart | heh |
| 01:52.16 | Blue89 | I begged for answers to my wifi issues occasionally over 6 months and got maybe 2 responses from people who didn't know how ot fix it |
| 01:53.06 | spldart | Neat boxen though dude :) |
| 01:53.19 | Blue89 | very |
| 01:53.25 | Blue89 | I have the SL-C3200 model |
| 01:53.35 | Blue89 | last in the series :-/ |
| 01:53.46 | spldart | figured |
| 01:54.02 | spldart | they are changing to windoze right? |
| 01:54.25 | Blue89 | they _used_ to run windows CE I beleive |
| 01:54.50 | Blue89 | I think there was a rumor before that the next smartphone released by sharp would be CE also |
| 01:55.28 | Blue89 | I thin the problem with Mesa is that it uses floating point math |
| 01:55.45 | Blue89 | (which is incredibly slow on this device) |
| 01:56.04 | spldart | Unconfirmed is Windows Mobile 5.0 for future models |
| 01:56.47 | Blue89 | Mesa accepts plugins for gfx card drivers, doesn't it? |
| 01:57.25 | Blue89 | maybe one of these days I can hack a tiny raycast engine into a "driver" and use that on my Zaurus |
| 01:59.15 | Blue89 | if I could just hack mesa into using integers only I bet it would get at least 15fps |
| 01:59.49 | spldart | back.. sry phone |
| 02:00.26 | spldart | Ah.. Your getting past my tinkering with openGL and getting to little to be just enough :) |
| 02:00.45 | spldart | do you have any accell? |
| 02:01.21 | spldart | oOOoo new south park! |
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| 02:09.48 | Blue89 | the device isn't THAT slow, I am surprised bzflag doesn't work well |
| 02:10.04 | Blue89 | I can play doom on it in 320x240 at 30-40 fps |
| 02:11.39 | rob1n | 320x240? what is this? the 1980's? |
| 02:12.05 | rob1n | or by "device" do you not mean computer? :\ |
| 02:12.27 | Blue89 | true, it's puny, but it's detailed enough to be interesting, and small enough to render on a 416mhz device |
| 02:14.15 | spldart | Doom is WAY less demanding than bzflag... surprisingly |
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| 03:18.27 | blast007 | Blue89: by "doom" are you referring to "Doom 3" or the original "Doom" ? |
| 03:20.00 | Blue89 | prboom |
| 03:20.03 | blast007 | ah, a Zaurus |
| 03:20.08 | Blue89 | I guess that would be the original doom |
| 03:20.23 | Blue89 | I play freedoom on it |
| 03:20.43 | blast007 | yeah, that would be the original doom |
| 03:20.58 | blast007 | I mean, heck, I can run Doom on my Sansa media player ;) |
| 03:21.17 | blast007 | and that's just a 100MHz dual processor/core chip thingy |
| 03:27.57 | rob1n | you can play doom on an ipod too |
| 03:28.01 | rob1n | http://ipodlinux.org/Doom |
| 03:36.15 | blast007 | rob1n: Rockbox supports iPods as well, so that would enable running Doom as well |
| 03:37.14 | blast007 | plus a good number of the plugins: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginIndex |
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| 18:09.56 | whodaman- | lol |
| 18:09.59 | Blue89 | I love this game |
| 18:13.01 | Blue89 | is it possible to build a bzflag map that has bump-mapped surfaces? (so, the brick walls would have little bricks sticking out, etc.) |
| 18:13.20 | JeffM | nope |
| 18:13.25 | JeffM | we only do basic texturing |
| 18:14.40 | Blue89 | oh well. that would look cool, but it is still fun without. :-) |
| 18:17.15 | JeffM | the rendering code is prety much the same as it's been since 1992 |
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| 19:02.16 | peter_bz | The registered amount of players hit 15,000 today :) |
| 19:02.56 | whodaman- | We have 15015 registered users |
| 19:03.28 | peter_bz | :) More newbies to kill |
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| 19:06.52 | peter_bz | I wonder what the average amount of players online at any one time is now |
| 19:07.44 | Winny | someone has a graph, somewhere |
| 19:08.08 | Winny | AAA_awright: ^ |
| 19:08.29 | whodaman- | Yeah, he might. |
| 19:08.49 | peter_bz | 159 on now |
| 19:09.16 | peter_bz | ha, and the number of maps is 290 |
| 19:09.23 | Winny | ..yeah? |
| 19:09.30 | Winny | its no secrect we have far too many servers |
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| 19:14.33 | CBG | In theory, 10 servers could easily host 159 (even 200) players, but if there were only 10 servers, chances are you would only like 1. Would you play bz nearly as much? Wha about everyone else? You think there would still be 159 active players? I doubt it. |
| 19:16.00 | Winny | IMO, we could probably get rid of 100 servers, and replace them with rotatations, or something. |
| 19:16.50 | CBG_ | Right, rotations would work differently. |
| 19:18.20 | whodaman- | MapChange would be really good for the smaller places that don't get played very much |
| 19:25.45 | Blue89 | I don't see why you need to register anyway, but I did back when I couldn't get on viper2 without it |
| 19:25.46 | whodaman- | Blue89: on the forums? |
| 19:25.54 | Blue89 | for the game itself |
| 19:26.16 | whodaman- | yeah, so on bzbb |
| 19:26.17 | CBG | Same thing. |
| 19:26.54 | whodaman- | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/login.php |
| 19:27.08 | whodaman- | try that blue and click on 'I forgot my password' |
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| 19:28.29 | whodaman- | Blue89: does that work for you? |
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| 19:34.59 | Erroneous | Winny: http://list.bzflag.org/bzflag.html |
| 19:35.09 | Winny | ahh |
| 19:37.21 | Erroneous | also http://list.bzflag.org/bzflag17.html but that's not as interesting anymore ;) |
| 19:37.40 | whodaman- | heh |
| 19:38.02 | Blue89 | it worked, I have a new password :-) |
| 19:38.07 | Blue89 | ty |
| 19:38.18 | whodaman- | Blue89: your welcome :) |
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| 20:23.00 | Winny | awilcox |
| 20:23.08 | awilcox | ? |
| 20:24.25 | awilcox | brlcad: what does that mean? |
| 20:24.27 | brlcad | undoubtedly because we've not released a new version (nor fixed several core issues) |
| 20:24.34 | awilcox | ahh. |
| 20:24.41 | awilcox | Winny! |
| 20:48.44 | awilcox | Winny! |
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| 23:37.09 | delusional | l4mer had a wonderful idea of a tank that materializes out of parts, as a LOD effect.... what file in source contains the flying tank parts? |
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| 23:39.12 | brlcad | search on explode |
| 23:49.25 | spldart | grrrr |