| 00:02.37 | Constitution | so sounds like a lot of state stuff needs to go serverside before this could work |
| 00:02.44 | JeffM | ohh yeah |
| 00:02.57 | JeffM | by a "lot" I think you mean "all of it" |
| 00:03.00 | Constitution | heh, yeah |
| 00:03.02 | JeffM | some things may change slightly |
| 00:03.10 | JeffM | most for the good |
| 00:03.22 | JeffM | like death lag will be cut in roughtly 1/2 |
| 00:03.41 | JeffM | as will GM update lag |
| 00:06.26 | JeffM | high packetloss people may see difrences |
| 00:06.35 | JeffM | like geting blowed up with out seeing a shot if they are super unlucky |
| 00:07.35 | JeffM | I mean right now, those people make it bad for all the other players, after it's server side, the only one affected by high packet loss, is the person WITH the packet loss |
| 00:07.38 | JeffM | so I think that is better |
| 00:07.52 | Constitution | ah |
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| 00:09.58 | JeffM | the idea is, if your not cheating, and have consistentish pings and low packetloss, you get a good game |
| 00:10.12 | JeffM | if your doing any of those things, you will have a bad game, but everyone else will be fine |
| 00:11.15 | _anomaly_ | whatever came of the gsoc scenegraph idea? |
| 00:11.20 | JeffM | ? |
| 00:11.55 | _anomaly_ | there was talk about migrating to a third party scenegraph |
| 00:11.57 | JeffM | we only got 4 student slots |
| 00:12.02 | _anomaly_ | ah |
| 00:12.12 | JeffM | bots, map editor, city generator, server comunication |
| 00:13.02 | _anomaly_ | that explains why i haven't heard anything more |
| 00:13.11 | JeffM | that and it's well.. OVER |
| 00:13.15 | JeffM | has been for a while |
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| 00:26.04 | spldart | finally.... back... soyo k7v dragon+, amd athlon 1200 and nvidia 6200 a-le is not a viable combination to play bzflag in windows and linux |
| 00:27.54 | spldart | After 13 more caps and reflowing my northbridge my old k7d master is finally back in service :-p |
| 00:31.09 | Macrosoft | 13 caps?! soldering iron, much? |
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| 00:41.34 | spldart | Pro E-tech since '84... and as far as my personal mobo's and power supplies are concernced I've replaced over 100 so far in various boards and psunits |
| 00:42.09 | spldart | Not enough money to upgrade so trying to keep my dual Barton @ 2.4ghz running |
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| 00:46.29 | Macrosoft | spldart: will take me several months to complete |
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| 00:48.26 | Macrosoft | spldart: reflow sounds very risky and a bit tricky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflow_soldering |
| 00:50.12 | spldart | Once you get the hang of it and have a good solder station, proper tools... etc. it's not that bad... |
| 00:50.26 | spldart | My record is flowing out a 300+ pin flat pack ic |
| 00:51.08 | spldart | I need some bad arse HSF's :-( |
| 00:51.24 | spldart | I'm done with liquid cooling and need a slightly easier to maintain rig |
| 00:52.04 | JeffM | Macrosoft, I think you just don't realise, that doing that kinda stuff, is sorta part of his job ;) |
| 00:52.14 | spldart | Man! My tanker skills have rusted bad over the last several months |
| 00:53.41 | spldart | I do Sony, Onkyo, Mitsubishi, Toshiba, Mcintosh, Adcom, Denon, Sharp... etc etc etc factory authorized repair on everything from DVD up to the latest Plasma/LCD |
| 00:54.00 | spldart | But it doesn't pay well :( |
| 00:54.10 | spldart | Thus no gaming upgrade3 |
| 00:54.15 | Macrosoft | im not taking any chances with liquid cooling, ive got a case with three 120mm fans and a 200mm fan |
| 00:54.22 | spldart | hehe |
| 00:54.36 | spldart | Been running liquid since the DD Maze3's were brand new |
| 00:54.48 | Macrosoft | the have speed settings, and get quite the airflow when set on full blast |
| 00:55.20 | spldart | But the lines get in the way and repairs are complicated by that cooling |
| 00:56.24 | Macrosoft | the case has two holes in the back for liquid cooling, but i thought that those were supposed to be _inside_ the case |
| 00:57.09 | spldart | radiator can be in or out... I've done both |
| 00:57.41 | Macrosoft | there are two empty brackets inside for extra fans, but i think 6 fans would be overkill ;) |
| 00:58.02 | Macrosoft | ...and loud |
| 00:58.54 | spldart | Got 10 on server :).. but built a special voltage regulator for them and tuned them to around 9.2 V to keep noise down |
| 00:59.28 | spldart | So many hdd's I had to upgrade the stupid UPS |
| 00:59.29 | Macrosoft | 10?! this isnt exactly a server, just a decent rig |
| 01:00.06 | spldart | I NEED MONEY! |
| 01:00.13 | Macrosoft | SO DO I! |
| 01:00.19 | spldart | :( |
| 01:00.28 | Macrosoft | i need $300 for the motherboard |
| 01:00.38 | Macrosoft | then $500 for the ram |
| 01:00.53 | Macrosoft | and another $300 for the psu |
| 01:01.07 | Macrosoft | and $200 for the hard drive |
| 01:01.07 | spldart | Has a new rig gone up much? I spent like 1200 for this rig but it's now so outta date |
| 01:01.11 | spldart | geez |
| 01:01.39 | Macrosoft | and prolly some unholy amount of cash for a high-end graphics card |
| 01:01.54 | spldart | I pick up those 200 to 400 gig sata's at fry's when they go on sale for under 100 bux |
| 01:02.08 | spldart | just keep adding and adding one by one |
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| 01:02.13 | spldart | sometimes 2 atta time |
| 01:02.27 | Macrosoft | spldart: its only expensive cuz im trying to make a powerful rig |
| 01:02.52 | spldart | I remember when My rig was powerful :(.. Now it's older than a toddler |
| 01:03.28 | Macrosoft | this one i got here stopped being powerful before it was even built :p |
| 01:03.40 | Macrosoft | dell dimension 2350 |
| 01:03.47 | spldart | yikes... bad boys rich toys |
| 01:04.39 | Macrosoft | all of my rigs have been pre-owned so far, im trying to make one that isnt too obsolete |
| 01:04.46 | spldart | But.. then again... who needs bzflag past a few hundred fps on a 12 foot screen?..... even if I can see the pixels if I walk up to the screen... *nudges a couple videophiles* |
| 01:04.59 | spldart | heheh |
| 01:05.03 | Macrosoft | *drools* |
| 01:05.20 | spldart | don't bother.. my projector is a pro rig... but outta date too |
| 01:05.26 | spldart | Not full HighDef |
| 01:05.45 | Macrosoft | *feels ashamed of his 19'' flatscreen with DVI at 1440x900* |
| 01:06.13 | Macrosoft | DVI kicks VGA's ass |
| 01:06.24 | spldart | Your pic has more res.. my projector is only a touch above standard dvd |
| 01:06.26 | Macrosoft | ...much clearer picture |
| 01:07.09 | Macrosoft | when i first played a 3d game with the new setup, i wanted to cry with joy :D |
| 01:07.19 | Macrosoft | ...t'was awesome |
| 01:07.31 | Macrosoft | *'twas |
| 01:08.21 | Macrosoft | has a 19'' lcd, with both vga and dvi inputs connected |
| 01:08.31 | spldart | one dvi one vga and one svid |
| 01:08.51 | Macrosoft | my TV has svid input on it |
| 01:09.01 | Macrosoft | ...but doesnt look very good |
| 01:09.05 | spldart | there you go.. hook up both and play on clone screen |
| 01:09.22 | Macrosoft | multi monitor isnt too hard |
| 01:09.53 | spldart | Is multi vid card hard in xorg? |
| 01:10.14 | Macrosoft | not really, but you will have to edit the conf yourself |
| 01:10.22 | spldart | obviously |
| 01:10.28 | spldart | Been there but only simple stuff |
| 01:10.46 | spldart | btw.. debian etch here |
| 01:10.54 | spldart | dual boot with win xp |
| 01:10.55 | Macrosoft | i got a lot of experience with editing mine when i crashed it |
| 01:11.00 | spldart | LOL |
| 01:11.02 | spldart | me too |
| 01:11.20 | Macrosoft | ubuntu feisty here, with dual boot XP home edition |
| 01:11.47 | spldart | I regularly tinker with x.conf, interfaces.conf, apt.conf... and a few others |
| 01:12.00 | spldart | XP pro corp here |
| 01:12.17 | Macrosoft | havent added the windoes entry to grub yet, so i have to do map (hd1,0) (hd0,0) and all of that through command line |
| 01:12.22 | Macrosoft | *windows |
| 01:12.32 | spldart | In fact. I'm doin a fresh deb install on this machine tomorrow |
| 01:12.42 | Macrosoft | grub command line ftw |
| 01:13.12 | spldart | I haven't done much custom grub except to change background color and add a pic in tar.gz |
| 01:13.17 | spldart | oops.. tarxp |
| 01:13.51 | spldart | The pic with the penguin with a win and a debian emblem on the right and left |
| 01:14.39 | Macrosoft | i tried out openSUSE a while back, and it raped my grub config. took a while to figure out where it was reading the new config from |
| 01:15.55 | spldart | I was tinkering with lunar linux myself recently but it's a touch to raw for my tastes.... |
| 01:16.04 | Macrosoft | it was ignoring the config on primary drive and using one one secondary, which was bad if i removed the secondary drive :( |
| 01:16.45 | Macrosoft | had to bust out the sudo grub-install /dev/hda |
| 01:18.13 | Macrosoft | ...formatted the secondary drive, installed xp on it so i could play portal. i just found out a few days ago that portal runs ok through wine |
| 01:18.28 | spldart | >extent of my repairing grub config "ok stupid grub... windows is hd0/0 and linux is hd0/1... forget the others!" iirc |
| 01:19.32 | spldart | I mostly use wine for work... lotsa manufacturers of consumer/commercial electronics write their flashing, upgrade appy's for dos or windows |
| 01:20.16 | Macrosoft | just remove extra entries from /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 01:21.41 | spldart | dosbox just can't cut it. |
| 01:22.08 | Macrosoft | i cant really play portal on it yet, proprietary nvidia drivers freeze up |
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| 01:36.44 | spldart | ... Now that's what I'm talking about :) |
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| 03:00.14 | a_meteorite | hmm? |
| 03:00.18 | spldart | heh |
| 03:00.37 | a_meteorite | Xtra! |
| 03:01.17 | JeffM | you know, how you'r always helping |
| 03:01.28 | a_meteorite | yes, I always do... |
| 03:01.32 | JeffM | and being so kind to people who are learning |
| 03:01.35 | a_meteorite | is there something wrong..? |
| 03:01.36 | JeffM | and you'r never mean |
| 03:01.39 | JeffM | ever |
| 03:01.41 | a_meteorite | exactly |
| 03:01.49 | a_meteorite | so what's the big deal? |
| 03:01.58 | a_meteorite | I'm always truthful |
| 03:02.16 | JeffM | you'd never make fun of people who want to even try the things that you feel your good at or put words "in quotes" to be sarcastic. |
| 03:02.41 | JeffM | that an how winny always uses private messages |
| 03:02.42 | a_meteorite | mmhmm... what are you getting at? |
| 03:02.55 | JeffM | it's ok, I've assumed you've forgoten already |
| 03:03.14 | a_meteorite | er ok |
| 03:07.27 | JeffM | maybe a "new server" will refresh your memory |
| 03:08.25 | a_meteorite | ohh that? yeah, I was just pointing out that nn really should check up before he announces he has a "new server" |
| 03:08.36 | JeffM | sure, pointing out |
| 03:08.39 | JeffM | if that's what you call it |
| 03:08.47 | a_meteorite | well, userbin.net WAS down the whole time |
| 03:08.59 | JeffM | just like I'm "pointing out" how nice you are |
| 03:09.01 | a_meteorite | if that's his "new server" he should probably check that it's up before announcing it |
| 03:09.16 | a_meteorite | it's kinda weird to announce something exists when it doesn't |
| 03:09.32 | JeffM | yes it is, I jsut feel you could have been much more constructive |
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| 03:09.54 | a_meteorite | like saying, "I think you should have announced your new server after it was really up"? |
| 03:10.03 | a_meteorite | beating around the bush hurts less feelings |
| 03:10.22 | JeffM | in a private message, even start by asking him if he knew it was down, maybe it was a techicnal issue |
| 03:10.30 | JeffM | he's learning |
| 03:10.31 | JeffM | a lot |
| 03:10.59 | a_meteorite | he's still got quite a ways to go, he thinks dedicated servers for $50 are $50 per bzfs server. |
| 03:11.07 | a_meteorite | and that a 1mbit upload network connection is 1mbit for each bzfs server |
| 03:11.20 | JeffM | all things you could help him learn |
| 03:12.08 | a_meteorite | frankly, I'm surprised he could figure out the command line and how bzfs options work. |
| 03:12.15 | JeffM | see how nice you are |
| 03:12.22 | a_meteorite | just being realistic |
| 03:12.23 | JeffM | your a 'wonderfull' human being |
| 03:12.32 | a_meteorite | yup, I don't let my view get clouded |
| 03:13.07 | JeffM | well, all the crap in that thread has been deleted |
| 03:13.32 | a_meteorite | sure, I don't mind if my stuff was deleted |
| 03:13.44 | JeffM | didn't realy care if you did mind |
| 03:13.53 | a_meteorite | I'm just "pointing out" that I don't |
| 03:18.06 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16090 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/modeltool/vc71/modeltool.sln: don't need the other lame build targets for modeltool ( it'll never use kerbos ) |
| 03:19.44 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16091 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/modeltool/vc71/ (modeltool.sln modeltool.vcproj): add a build target for model tool with a graphical display |
| 03:21.10 | AAA_awright | ~ping |
| 03:21.11 | ibot | pong |
| 03:22.37 | JeffM | dosn't mean I'll finish it :) |
| 03:22.43 | JeffM | or make it build on the mac |
| 03:23.00 | JeffM | tho since it'll use GP lib, it "should" build |
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| 03:27.52 | delusional_ | My truck is so old, i made a tape that plays the sanford and son theme over and over..... i pop it in at oppurtune times, it always gets a laugh |
| 03:36.57 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16092 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/modeltool/ (modeltool.cxx vc71/modeltool.vcproj): |
| 03:36.57 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: break out the command line arg reading into a function so it can be called externally. |
| 03:36.57 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: stub out a graphic app for visual mode. |
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| 04:03.22 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16093 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/modeltool/ (model.h modeltool.cxx wavefrontOBJ.cxx): Draw CMeshes in the GL window |
| 04:04.42 | CIA-21 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/GPLib/src/graphicApplication.cpp: make sure that ortho gets ENDED so we have the same number of pushes and pops |
| 04:09.04 | JeffM | http://www.opencombat.net/files/images/mt_preview.png |
| 04:09.40 | blast007 | madness! |
| 04:09.52 | JeffM | it's not that hard when you reuse code ;) |
| 04:18.38 | AAA_awright | How do you generate new Makefiles with no existing Makefile? |
| 04:19.33 | JeffM | you mean by hand? or for bz? |
| 04:20.48 | AAA_awright | for plugins. newplug.sh does nothing on 2.0 |
| 04:21.16 | JeffM | yeah you have to add them to the automake and autoconf files by hand |
| 04:21.21 | JeffM | then re run your autogen |
| 04:21.30 | JeffM | that will generate new makefiles for them |
| 04:21.50 | JeffM | plug-ins use the same build system as the main code |
| 04:22.11 | AAA_awright | And what is the automake file(s)? |
| 04:22.19 | JeffM | makefile.am |
| 04:22.25 | JeffM | and configure.ac IIRC |
| 04:22.31 | AAA_awright | ah |
| 04:22.34 | JeffM | you can search in them for the otherplugin names |
| 04:22.42 | JeffM | and just add yours after them |
| 04:22.57 | AAA_awright | Oh, thanks |
| 04:24.15 | Macrosoft | the companion cube strikes again: http://mdk0.servegame.com/wcc.jpg |
| 04:27.33 | delusional_ | companion cube? |
| 04:28.25 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16094 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/modeltool/modeltool.cxx: draw a simple axis widget so we can see how the world axes look in the view |
| 04:28.27 | JeffM | character in portal |
| 04:28.29 | CIA-21 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/GPLib/ (inc/openGL.h src/openGL.cpp): simple axes widget |
| 04:29.42 | blast007 | And remember, your companion cube cannot talk. If your companion cube does talk, we recommend you disregard what it says. |
| 04:30.12 | JeffM | anyone know how hard it is to convert from CVS to svn on SF? |
| 04:30.34 | blast007 | JeffM: it's not that bad... I was able to do it ;) |
| 04:31.16 | JeffM | how does one do it? |
| 04:31.21 | JeffM | something about a dump? |
| 04:32.18 | Macrosoft | blast007: the aperture science enrichment center guarantees that the weighted companion cube will not stab you |
| 04:32.28 | blast007 | ;D |
| 04:32.38 | blast007 | JeffM: yeah, something about that |
| 04:32.49 | blast007 | I'm not sure I did it 100% right, but whatever, it works :) |
| 04:33.01 | blast007 | mine isn't set up the same as the bzflag one |
| 04:33.10 | blast007 | I don't have multiple "modules" |
| 04:33.17 | JeffM | I do |
| 04:33.40 | JeffM | a 'couple' of them, http://opencombat.cvs.sourceforge.net/opencombat/ :) |
| 04:35.53 | Macrosoft | blast007: the total cost of all those parts ended up being $1516.92, without shipping costs |
| 04:36.16 | blast007 | ;) |
| 04:38.10 | blast007 | JeffM: heh, yeah ;) |
| 04:38.23 | blast007 | not sure how that'll work then |
| 05:02.27 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r16095 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Add rabidRabbit plugin by LouMan |
| 05:02.34 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r16096 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/rabidRabbit/rabidRabbit.cpp: Add new code from LouMan that changes the rabbit hole when the rabbit dies |
| 05:02.42 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r16097 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/rabidRabbit/rabidRabbit.cpp: Fix compiler warnings - unsigned int vs int |
| 05:02.49 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r16098 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/rabidRabbit/README.txt: Updated README.txt for the rabidRabbit plugin |
| 05:02.56 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r16099 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/rabidRabbit/rabidRabbit.cpp: Only call bz_freePlayerRecord() if we have a pointer to free |
| 05:03.05 | AAA_awright | Uh |
| 05:03.38 | AAA_awright | Wasn't that already added, if not somewhere else? |
| 05:03.48 | Thumper_ | in branch not trunk |
| 05:03.51 | Thumper_ | this was trunk |
| 05:04.03 | AAA_awright | Okay. |
| 05:04.14 | JeffM | when was it added to branch? |
| 05:04.38 | Thumper_ | Sep 3rd |
| 05:04.51 | JeffM | before freeze, cool :) |
| 05:05.25 | Thumper_ | I was holding off on updating trunk until most of the changes were done |
| 05:05.31 | blast007 | is there any bugs/issues that need testing with branch yet? |
| 05:05.41 | Thumper_ | since we were testing it in branch and fixing stuff back then |
| 05:05.45 | blast007 | has anyone tried on the new Ubuntu and/or the tickless kernel? |
| 05:06.28 | Thumper_ | blast007: nope. |
| 05:06.36 | Thumper_ | (at least not I) |
| 05:06.38 | DTRemenak | JeffM: svn conversion is cake |
| 05:06.44 | Macrosoft | me neither |
| 05:06.52 | Thumper_ | 1:06AM. eek. night all |
| 05:06.53 | blast007 | I have the ISO for the new Ubuntu |
| 05:07.01 | blast007 | gonna burn it quick |
| 05:07.35 | blast007 | assuming I can find a blank CD.. |
| 05:10.54 | Macrosoft | 12:10AM, time for sleep |
| 05:19.24 | blast007 | 12:19AM, time to install linux |
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| 13:21.35 | delusional | do you think if i keep staring at C++ code for a long time, trying to understand it, I'll suddenly know how to program in it, through osmosis? |
| 13:21.44 | delusional | NAAAH! |
| 13:30.55 | spldart | I wish! |
| 13:43.35 | spldart | bbl gotta install linux on this thing again |
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| 14:37.51 | brlcad | it could happen |
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| 19:02.53 | delusional | jeff, if modeltool could also wrap the geometry in a "define" with an option like "-define "name" that would completely eliminate the need to open the bzw in a text editor, while testing the convert. |
| 19:03.24 | delusional | using the "include" bzw option |
| 19:04.57 | delusional | ByTheWay, tedius' script is now doing tristrips and quadstrips, and (sloppy) decimation for LOD |
| 19:08.47 | delusional | and trifans |
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| 19:17.30 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r16103 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/ (keepaway/keepaway.cpp koth/koth.cpp): And more whitespace... |
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| 20:33.11 | JeffM | attack of the whitespace monster |
| 20:40.05 | Thumper_ | I can do the rest of the plugins if you want... :) I stopped after the ones I created |
| 20:40.24 | JeffM | how bad are the others? |
| 20:40.41 | Thumper_ | I haven't looked - they probably don't follow the 2char indent mostly |
| 20:40.46 | Thumper_ | but fixing it is pretty simple |
| 20:41.02 | blast007 | there's a script for that stuff, right? |
| 20:41.12 | Thumper_ | yes |
| 20:41.15 | JeffM | only do what you want to do |
| 20:41.31 | Thumper_ | well some people don't like huge whitespace changes (if they have work in progress for instance) |
| 20:41.44 | Thumper_ | so I'm trying to avoid beating of files others might have work in progress on |
| 20:41.53 | JeffM | don't worry about that |
| 20:41.56 | JeffM | they can merge |
| 20:41.59 | JeffM | before they commit |
| 20:42.01 | JeffM | they will live |
| 20:42.31 | blast007 | that's just part of shared deveopment |
| 20:42.43 | JeffM | most whitespace changes auto merge in |
| 20:42.45 | Thumper_ | I'll continue (but not today) |
| 20:43.16 | Thumper_ | indent -kr -npsl -bls -i2 <-- get it mostly right |
| 20:43.50 | JeffM | the intent and tab is the big thing |
| 20:44.07 | JeffM | that and having the block thingy at the end of each file |
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| 20:49.00 | spldart | meh |
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| 21:17.10 | spldart | What kinda controller do people who are absolute badarses at bzflag use? |
| 21:17.28 | brad | mouse? |
| 21:17.40 | spldart | no way?!?! |
| 21:17.48 | spldart | really.. that quick with a mouse? |
| 21:18.08 | spldart | was watching bisque play a bit and it's a little scary/sick |
| 21:18.24 | eTangenT | but I suck at bz |
| 21:18.26 | eTangenT | so don't mind me :D |
| 21:18.28 | JeffM | incrase the acceleration in the mouse contorll pannel |
| 21:18.33 | JeffM | lets you twitch |
| 21:18.38 | spldart | ah |
| 21:18.44 | brad | and smaller mouse box |
| 21:18.50 | spldart | his triple tap is way better than mine |
| 21:19.41 | spldart | He BLAMS left, right then middle, and does it fast as poop... I usually go left to right or right to left of target in a sweep |
| 21:19.58 | spldart | I'll try the mouse accell though |
| 21:20.11 | spldart | I assume that makes precise maneuvers more difficult too |
| 21:20.42 | JeffM | some drivers let you incrase acceleration when holding down a key or button |
| 21:21.59 | spldart | ooOOooo... Gotta 5 button mouse with wheel..... maybe I can map one for that :) |
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| 21:28.03 | Thumper_ | last one |
| 21:28.08 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r16115 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Whitespace |
| 21:29.45 | Constitution | blast007: what exactly do you mean "are there any bugs/issues that need testing with branch"? |
| 21:30.53 | JeffM | like can we frickin SHIP it or what |
| 21:31.32 | ruskie | spldart, or use the mouse wheel to fire... :) |
| 21:32.27 | spldart | I already have mouse wheel to fire :) |
| 21:32.40 | spldart | Just cant maneuver that quick/precise |
| 21:32.58 | ruskie | I prefer precission to quickness :) |
| 21:34.09 | spldart | hrm |
| 21:34.10 | Constitution | personally I'm not comfortable with branch yet... I think there are still a few bzfs issues that need to be looked into |
| 21:34.17 | Constitution | which I will post in a moment... |
| 21:34.22 | spldart | I'm goin to test some adjustments |
| 21:34.34 | JeffM | Constitution, like major things that wen't also busted in 2.0.8? |
| 21:34.53 | Constitution | yes |
| 21:35.27 | Constitution | well not killer things... but stuff that should be fixed before we call it stable, IMO |
| 21:35.44 | JeffM | we have never called it stable |
| 21:35.52 | JeffM | but yeah report them up |
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| 21:36.23 | zee314 | hello |
| 21:36.26 | JeffM | hello |
| 21:36.27 | brlcad | hello |
| 21:36.30 | zee314 | ready to play bzflag |
| 21:36.31 | Constitution | hello |
| 21:36.37 | brlcad | have fun |
| 21:36.44 | zee314 | hello |
| 21:36.51 | zee314 | I'm testing this irc site |
| 21:37.02 | zee314 | are you abzflag player? |
| 21:37.02 | JeffM | umm ok |
| 21:37.13 | JeffM | this is the channel for it, and there are players here, yes |
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| 21:46.04 | spldart | hrm... I'll have to get used to the twitch'ee'ness of it but it might help alot |
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| 22:02.26 | Constitution | here's that list: http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m65990e95 |
| 22:03.01 | JeffM | what is wrong with polls? |
| 22:03.31 | JeffM | and we can actualy pull the API docs from the source tree |
| 22:04.32 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16116 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/plugins/doc/: docs are now on the wiki, no need for outdated html files. |
| 22:06.14 | blast007 | Constitution: what's wrong with torblock? |
| 22:06.22 | blast007 | wrong address? |
| 22:07.37 | Constitution | re: polls, a while ago it was broken so it wouldn't always display the full results |
| 22:07.52 | Constitution | at r15847 I "fixed it", but it's still not quite right |
| 22:07.56 | Constitution | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx?r1=15847&r2=15867 |
| 22:08.06 | Constitution | i.e., it works, but not properly |
| 22:08.45 | Constitution | re: torblock, it messes up any plugins that are loaded after itself |
| 22:08.52 | JeffM | clarify |
| 22:08.56 | Constitution | I brought it up in the channel a while ago... not sure where it went |
| 22:09.21 | blast007 | into the backlog? ;) |
| 22:09.21 | Constitution | let me revisit it... 1 sec |
| 22:09.33 | Constitution | blast007: a few weeks ago |
| 22:09.44 | blast007 | right |
| 22:10.23 | JeffM | the channel is not a bug reporting and tracking mechanism ;) |
| 22:11.10 | JeffM | and what else needs to be tested about not including bots in the list counts |
| 22:11.16 | JeffM | we know it works |
| 22:11.51 | Constitution | well, you committed that a while ago and said it needs to be tested thoroughly... if we're cool that it works, then that can be disregarded |
| 22:12.10 | JeffM | we got complaints from stat sites, it works ;) |
| 22:12.21 | Constitution | lol |
| 22:12.51 | JeffM | plugin is a custom perm, it's not tied to all |
| 22:13.19 | JeffM | the problem woudl be that anyone with ALL dosn't get any custom perms |
| 22:14.01 | Constitution | well, as it stands, groups configured for older 2.0.x versions will suddenly not allow anyone to load/unload plugins in-game, which can be a problem |
| 22:14.12 | blast007 | Constitution: they'll deal with it |
| 22:14.13 | JeffM | I have a soltuion |
| 22:14.19 | JeffM | it's just not "give them the perm" |
| 22:18.53 | Constitution | JeffM: even if there was something as simple as a #define to make PLUGINS a standard perm if plugins were enabled in the source, I think it would make the transition much better |
| 22:19.14 | JeffM | no no |
| 22:19.19 | Constitution | IMHO, server owners shouldn't have to make potentially significant changes to their groupdbs for a maintenance release update |
| 22:19.22 | JeffM | your thinking of it all wrong |
| 22:19.34 | JeffM | if they have ALL, then any custom perm is assumed to be had as well |
| 22:19.36 | JeffM | much simpler |
| 22:19.47 | JeffM | ALL basicly is the same as OP |
| 22:19.47 | Constitution | oh, right |
| 22:20.53 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16117 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (Permissions.cxx Permissions.h bzfsAPI.cxx): if a user has the ALL perm, then they should also automaticly get any custom permission. |
| 22:20.57 | JeffM | it's a very simple change |
| 22:21.03 | Constitution | cool |
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| 22:21.07 | JeffM | just add a bool to the auth info |
| 22:21.13 | JeffM | set it when they get all set |
| 22:21.19 | JeffM | then test that in the custom perm check |
| 22:21.36 | JeffM | for torblock I'll need you to clarify the problem more |
| 22:21.49 | Constitution | okay, just got a backtrace on the crash |
| 22:22.22 | Constitution | of note, I do use one of my own plugins (which I will post), but I don't think it's a problem with that plugin |
| 22:22.33 | JeffM | for the polling, if it works 90% of the time, hey that's good enough for branch |
| 22:22.33 | Constitution | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m2be3391c |
| 22:22.59 | JeffM | that dosn't tell me anything |
| 22:23.00 | Constitution | (that crash only happens when torblock is loaded first) |
| 22:23.30 | JeffM | what is it doing on the line where it dies at? |
| 22:23.46 | JeffM | something with streams? |
| 22:23.56 | JeffM | perhaps curl has redirected some standard stream |
| 22:24.05 | JeffM | if so then it's more then just a tor problem, and can wait |
| 22:24.30 | ab0oo | I've got a graphics problem under ubuntu gutsy that I don't even know how to describe well enough to google for.. Half of my screen updates in real time, the other updates about every 10 seconds |
| 22:24.42 | JeffM | what card and what driver? |
| 22:24.55 | ab0oo | it's an nvidia 5200 running gutsy drivers. |
| 22:25.03 | ab0oo | the proprietary ones. |
| 22:25.25 | JeffM | I'd try updating with the ones from nvidia's site |
| 22:25.28 | ab0oo | (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 100.14.19 Wed Sep 12 14:48:02 PDT 2007 |
| 22:25.34 | Constitution | here' my plugin source: http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m3e6c88da ... as you can see, line 12 is BZ_GET_PLUGIN_VERSION, which really doesn't make sense |
| 22:25.36 | blast007 | oh yeah... |
| 22:25.52 | Constitution | and yes, it's likely a problem deeper than torblock itself |
| 22:26.03 | Constitution | from what I can tell |
| 22:26.10 | JeffM | torblock is not mission critical |
| 22:26.27 | JeffM | and since it's likely deeper, and your the only one to find it, it can wait |
| 22:26.51 | blast007 | ab0oo: 2.0.8 from the debian packages? |
| 22:27.01 | ab0oo | 100.14.19 looks to be the latest from nvidia.. |
| 22:27.11 | ab0oo | blast007: yes |
| 22:27.14 | ab0oo | is it broke? |
| 22:27.25 | blast007 | ab0oo: I'll find out in a sec ;) |
| 22:27.36 | JeffM | it's not the best version, but I don't think that it has that problem |
| 22:27.40 | blast007 | gonna try on my system, which has an nVidia 7600GT |
| 22:27.41 | JeffM | they applied a couple patches |
| 22:28.02 | ab0oo | 2.0.8.20060605ubuntu4 is what I'm running |
| 22:28.23 | ab0oo | it's been broke for a while, but my little girls are getting tired of webkinz and want to play bzflag again. |
| 22:28.29 | blast007 | with Compiz enabled I assume? |
| 22:28.43 | ab0oo | blast007: no, I'm not a compiz fan yet. |
| 22:28.51 | blast007 | oh, ok... I have it on |
| 22:29.18 | JeffM | try runing in a window |
| 22:29.26 | JeffM | bzflag -window -geometry 800x600 |
| 22:30.44 | ab0oo | how do I verify compiz isn't on? |
| 22:31.40 | ab0oo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:33.27 | blast007 | ab0oo: not sure |
| 22:33.31 | blast007 | working fine for me |
| 22:34.00 | JeffM | behavor like that is usualy card/driver/X related |
| 22:34.04 | ab0oo | dpkg -l | grep compiz shows nothing installed. |
| 22:34.49 | ab0oo | JeffM: right. I just got three new intel machines today that I put on a netboot/NFS root, and they're using the intel drivers. I'll check those and see if they can run it ok |
| 22:35.09 | JeffM | intel drivers suck |
| 22:35.13 | ab0oo | this 5200 is old, but it just ticks, and it doesn't get too hot. |
| 22:35.27 | ab0oo | yeah, and the nvidia drivers are SO stable... :) |
| 22:36.02 | JeffM | traditionaly they have been |
| 22:36.05 | blast007 | JeffM: works fine for me, except the same problem I've had with every distro... can't get sound out the speakers |
| 22:36.11 | JeffM | we've heard a number of people have issues with it |
| 22:36.11 | ab0oo | almost as "good" as the ATI drivers, which cause small bits of paper and trash to get attracted to your computer case because of the high quantity of "SUCK" they generate |
| 22:36.24 | blast007 | :) |
| 22:36.38 | JeffM | it's highly possible the guy to applied the patches for ubuntu screwed something up |
| 22:36.47 | JeffM | ab0oo, you could always try to build your own |
| 22:36.53 | JeffM | from our 2.0.10 branch |
| 22:36.53 | ab0oo | I guess I'll monkey with the drivers for a while. |
| 22:37.32 | ab0oo | JeffM: I could do that... I've gotten old and lazy since the days when I compiled everything myself.. |
| 22:37.42 | JeffM | blast007, yeah I'm sure it works for some people, but havent' we seen a large (comparitivly ) group of people having problems recently |
| 22:37.59 | ab0oo | do you have the URL for the svn trunk handy? |
| 22:38.02 | JeffM | I mean we've seen more then a couple since it shiped |
| 22:38.04 | blast007 | wonder if my mom would be mad if I installed Ubuntu on her machine with the 5200 ;) |
| 22:38.08 | JeffM | ibot bzsvn |
| 22:38.09 | ibot | from memory, bzsvn is http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag bzflag |
| 22:38.22 | JeffM | the wiki page has full instructions |
| 22:38.30 | ab0oo | that url worked |
| 22:38.30 | JeffM | http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN |
| 22:38.41 | ab0oo | you guys have your own freetype and curl in there? |
| 22:38.41 | JeffM | well if you get trunk, you won't be geting 2.0.x |
| 22:38.48 | JeffM | DON'T use that one |
| 22:38.57 | JeffM | if you see freetype, it's not the right one |
| 22:38.59 | JeffM | that's dev |
| 22:39.05 | ab0oo | hehe. I thought we were going for bleeding edge... :) |
| 22:39.06 | JeffM | and not compatable with 2.0.8 |
| 22:39.09 | L4m3r | gutsy, less stable than other ubuntu releases? that's why it's ubuntu and not debian :P |
| 22:39.25 | JeffM | ab0oo, we have 2 branches now |
| 22:39.27 | L4m3r | ...so we did get a package into Gutsy? |
| 22:39.36 | blast007 | L4m3r: 2.0.8+patches |
| 22:39.38 | JeffM | 2.0_branch is compatablwe |
| 22:39.41 | ab0oo | 2.0.8.20060605ubuntu4 |
| 22:39.43 | JeffM | L4m3r, we didn't build it |
| 22:39.50 | L4m3r | oh |
| 22:39.51 | JeffM | some ubuntu dev did |
| 22:40.23 | JeffM | we were unable to get our apt package updated with the fixes |
| 22:40.29 | ab0oo | JeffM: is this better: https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/ |
| 22:40.31 | JeffM | aperantly those things take time |
| 22:40.34 | JeffM | ab0oo, yes |
| 22:40.39 | JeffM | that will be compatable |
| 22:41.17 | ab0oo | I probably need all kinds of dev packages that I don't keep around... |
| 22:41.27 | JeffM | SDL dev |
| 22:41.32 | JeffM | curl dev |
| 22:41.35 | ab0oo | JeffM: what cool stuff is going into trunk? |
| 22:41.42 | JeffM | and the compilers/autotools |
| 22:41.45 | brlcad | ab0oo: look in the NEWS files |
| 22:41.53 | JeffM | mostly internal changes |
| 22:43.42 | ab0oo | FWIW, I'd love to see gun tube elevation as a gameplay option. |
| 22:43.56 | JeffM | not going to happen |
| 22:43.57 | ab0oo | maybe with the mouse wheel. |
| 22:44.00 | JeffM | design choice |
| 22:44.04 | ab0oo | makes sense. |
| 22:44.12 | ab0oo | maybe I'll fork. :) |
| 22:44.17 | JeffM | not all mice have wheels |
| 22:44.25 | JeffM | to do it right you'd have to put movement on keys |
| 22:44.33 | JeffM | and enforce a wads style system |
| 22:44.44 | ab0oo | no argument there. it would be a design nightmare. |
| 22:44.50 | JeffM | not really |
| 22:44.55 | JeffM | it would just be a change |
| 22:45.02 | JeffM | and make the game not realy "bzflag" anymore |
| 22:45.12 | JeffM | maybe one day as a major variant based on the same codebase |
| 22:45.13 | ab0oo | hence, my "option" keyword. there would be elevation worlds, and non-elevation worlds. just like jumping |
| 22:45.52 | JeffM | I'd have to be more then that |
| 22:45.59 | JeffM | you'd have to have better listing of games |
| 22:46.00 | JeffM | like in tabs |
| 22:46.04 | ab0oo | it also starts a slippery slope of "ballistics physics". why not have gravity affect the shell, and allow for indirect fire. |
| 22:46.05 | JeffM | one for each major type |
| 22:46.13 | JeffM | why not make a tank sim |
| 22:46.25 | ab0oo | and there you have it... all the way down the slope. |
| 22:46.47 | ab0oo | I spent my last year in the army with the field artillery, so I get a little jazzed when I talk about indirect fire. |
| 22:47.11 | JeffM | bzflag is meant to be a simple game :) |
| 22:47.43 | ab0oo | precisely. didn't mean to get too far down that slope. just wondered your thoughts on guntube elevation change. |
| 22:47.52 | L4m3r | so many option would amount to bloat for the old-school players, and legacy garbage for the newer crowd. a fork would be better... |
| 22:48.57 | ab0oo | one could argue that the introduction of super weapons eviscerated the core of the original BattleZone feel |
| 22:49.35 | JeffM | a fork or turning bz into more of a framework with shared code |
| 22:49.52 | AAA_awright | one could argue that the lack of super weapons prior to their introduction made it feel too much like original BattleZone |
| 22:49.55 | JeffM | it was never ment to fuly emulate batlezone |
| 22:50.11 | JeffM | battlezone was just the origonal author's insperation |
| 22:50.20 | ab0oo | where's tim when we have these discussions... |
| 22:50.28 | blast007 | sleeping |
| 22:50.29 | ab0oo | I want to talk to him about my tuxscreen anyway |
| 22:50.55 | JeffM | tim is not the origonal author |
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| 22:51.01 | JeffM | nor active much anymore |
| 22:52.59 | ab0oo | surprised by the former, not the latter |
| 22:53.17 | JeffM | it says who the author is every time you start the game |
| 22:53.26 | ab0oo | autogen on 2_0 branches failed |
| 22:53.38 | JeffM | with what error? |
| 22:53.46 | ab0oo | Preparing build ... configure.ac:815: required file `plugins/doc/Makefile.in' not found |
| 22:53.46 | ab0oo | plugins/Makefile.am:30: required directory plugins/doc does not exist |
| 22:53.53 | JeffM | bahh |
| 22:53.53 | blast007 | heh |
| 22:53.55 | JeffM | one sec |
| 22:54.07 | ab0oo | assuming two lines of paste doesn't warrant a kick or a pastebin plea |
| 22:54.15 | blast007 | ab0oo: nope |
| 22:54.57 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16118 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/plugins/Makefile.am: no docs anymore |
| 22:55.33 | CIA-21 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16119 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/configure.ac: no docs anymore |
| 22:55.50 | JeffM | that should do it |
| 22:55.53 | JeffM | do a svn up |
| 22:56.05 | ab0oo | autogen-ing now |
| 22:56.34 | Constitution | hmmm http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=116338#116338 |
| 22:56.42 | Constitution | did the 10.4 build come from brlcad? |
| 22:56.52 | JeffM | nope |
| 22:57.24 | Constitution | wonder what was different from the one I made |
| 22:57.26 | ab0oo | heh, I did my svn up before the second commit. |
| 22:57.41 | ab0oo | so Chris wrote it, and Tim holds the copywrite and is the "maintainer". |
| 22:57.55 | JeffM | brlcad does lots of little tweaks to get it to run on the various versions of OSX |
| 22:58.03 | JeffM | yes, tim is the maintainer, and one of the project admins |
| 22:58.22 | blast007 | heh, yeah... Ubuntu 7.10 has some issues |
| 22:58.31 | ab0oo | blast007: such as.. ? |
| 22:58.47 | blast007 | I just tried to decrease the mouse acceleration a bit, and now it won't do anything except the lowest acceration |
| 22:58.52 | ab0oo | r16119 autogens, btw |
| 22:59.06 | blast007 | can't put it back to higher acceleration :( |
| 22:59.12 | JeffM | nice |
| 22:59.53 | blast007 | yay for Gnome |
| 23:01.32 | blast007 | ab0oo: does your top menu have icons next to programs? |
| 23:01.54 | blast007 | the gnome menu |
| 23:02.56 | blast007 | man, I'm really impressed... I click on "Help" in the mouse preferences window, and I get an error saying there isn't a default action for the help: protocol :P |
| 23:03.12 | blast007 | or something like that |
| 23:03.52 | ab0oo | I use kde. |
| 23:03.58 | ab0oo | kubuntu, technically |
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| 23:04.08 | ab0oo | gnome is not my thing. |
| 23:04.11 | blast007 | yeah, I normally use that too |
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| 23:04.26 | blast007 | but I wanted to use the same thing that most of the people were using that had the problems |
| 23:04.46 | JeffM | well we didn't ask them if they were using kde or gnome |
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| 23:05.02 | ab0oo | sorry I wasn't specific enough. I was thinking that the dm wouldn't really affect the game |
| 23:05.27 | JeffM | now that they are starting to use openGL in X, they can |
| 23:06.34 | blast007 | something is wrong with my ubuntu... the keys aren't repeating either, so I can't hold the down arrow to scroll |
| 23:06.37 | ab0oo | is there a make target for just the client? |
| 23:06.46 | blast007 | do I have to reinstall it already? I think this is the 3rd boot |
| 23:07.00 | JeffM | make |
| 23:07.04 | JeffM | then make install as root |
| 23:07.21 | ab0oo | I was hoping to not have to compible bzserver, etc. |
| 23:07.36 | ab0oo | compible... whatever. |
| 23:07.47 | blast007 | or just to test the client, just run src/bzflag/bzflag after you run make |
| 23:07.59 | blast007 | no need to install just to test that |
| 23:08.01 | ab0oo | blast007: right... |
| 23:08.12 | ab0oo | great minds, thinking alike |
| 23:08.15 | blast007 | :) |
| 23:08.26 | ab0oo | although my wife is loading kids in the van for something, so I may have to run. |
| 23:08.54 | ab0oo | she just saw that I was using a desktop without eclipse on it, so I can't use the "still working" excuse |
| 23:09.05 | blast007 | hehe |
| 23:09.34 | blast007 | heh, had to reboot ubuntu |
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| 23:09.40 | blast007 | all is good now |
| 23:09.47 | blast007 | it's less stable than Vista |
| 23:11.11 | ab0oo | bite your tonge |
| 23:11.17 | ab0oo | tongue, too |
| 23:14.34 | ab0oo | all this effort so my 8 year old daughter can find games with only one other player and try to make friends... |
| 23:15.28 | JeffM | install windows, we have a nice simple installer ;) |
| 23:16.08 | JeffM | tis the truth |
| 23:16.09 | ab0oo | then feeds it to tux to appease the linux gods |
| 23:17.55 | JeffM | so linux is a vengefull god? |
| 23:18.07 | JeffM | that demands heathen sacrifice |
| 23:18.09 | JeffM | interesting |
| 23:18.19 | ab0oo | just dish |
| 23:18.21 | ab0oo | fish. |
| 23:18.29 | ab0oo | gotta run. kids in van demanding food. |
| 23:18.46 | ab0oo | I'll be around later to report on the compile results. thanks for the help |
| 23:21.24 | JeffM | blast007, are you now seeing what I was precognessing? |
| 23:21.43 | JeffM | something of it all just smells craptacular |
| 23:27.24 | blast007 | JeffM: the brown interface, or the crappy code? ;) |
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| 23:30.32 | AAA_awright | There seems to be a bug that kicks people for being outside the player area when they sprawn, after you do /reset * in Bloodbath 2 |
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| 23:33.42 | AAA_awright | We were running 2.0.10 |
| 23:33.57 | AAA_awright | Earlier it kicked everyone who was using UDP |
| 23:34.13 | AAA_awright | I know that because AAABot was the only one not send MsgSuperKill |
| 23:34.34 | spldart | query... 2.0.10 compatible with 2.0.9? why? |
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| 23:34.36 | AAA_awright | So possibly UDP issues on 2.0.10 |
| 23:34.43 | AAA_awright | brb |
| 23:36.29 | JeffM | why does it sprawn you outside of the world? |
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| 23:55.06 | Constitution | AAA_awright: might be something messed up in the _worldSize and _wallHeight... Bloodbath doesn't use normal walls iirc |
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