| 00:01.09 | Winny | lol |
| 00:01.50 | a_meteorite | I submitted mine at the last second D |
| 00:01.51 | a_meteorite | :D |
| 00:01.53 | Winny | lol |
| 00:01.59 | Winny | 5 |
| 00:02.00 | Winny | 4 |
| 00:02.02 | Winny | 321 |
| 00:02.04 | Winny | woot |
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| 01:28.04 | a_meteorite | hmm, bzflag 2.0.x keeps crashing on me... |
| 01:28.10 | a_meteorite | 2007-09-24 18:27:26.830 bzflag[20048] Exception raised during posting of notification. Ignored. exception: *** -[NSLayoutManager glyphRangeForTextContainer:]: given container does not appear in the list of containers for this NSLayoutManager. |
| 01:29.17 | JeffM | brlcad wanted to know what version of curl you had |
| 01:30.00 | a_meteorite | bzflag's configure recognizes curl 7.13.1 |
| 01:31.06 | JeffM | that what apple shiped with you? or did you ever update it? |
| 01:31.15 | JeffM | and what version of OSX? |
| 01:31.44 | a_meteorite | that's apple's, yeah, I have 10.4.10 |
| 01:32.16 | JeffM | welll he's going to build a universal for the RC2 |
| 01:32.18 | a_meteorite | I installed macport's newer curl 7.16.4, though bzflag didn't seem to recognize it even when I used the curl configure switches |
| 01:32.22 | JeffM | maybe try that build |
| 01:32.25 | a_meteorite | ok |
| 01:32.26 | JeffM | oh |
| 01:32.35 | JeffM | yeah that may do it |
| 01:33.04 | JeffM | configure may only show the headers it found, not the lib that the runtime is using |
| 01:33.10 | a_meteorite | hmmm |
| 01:33.37 | a_meteorite | it's not reproducable, I can go a few minutes and crash in-game, in a menu, or for more than a half hour |
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| 01:34.25 | a_meteorite | just uninstalled macport's curl... I'll see :) |
| 01:34.34 | JeffM | and what sources did you use? |
| 01:34.49 | a_meteorite | 2.0.x branch |
| 01:34.54 | JeffM | from svn? |
| 01:34.56 | a_meteorite | it's a day old now, I'm updating |
| 01:34.58 | a_meteorite | yeah |
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| 03:36.30 | JeffM | DTRemenak: did you get your invite? |
| 03:37.48 | JeffM | flight prices ain't geting any cheaper |
| 03:38.08 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM -> http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://my.bzflag.org/w/ || 2.0.10rc2 is posted, please test. |
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| 04:15.38 | delusional | we've been thru this before, i know |
| 04:25.07 | JeffM | is the wiki page correct? |
| 04:31.28 | brlcad | i should buy my ticket soon.. |
| 04:31.59 | JeffM | I was looking at geting in on friday about 3ish |
| 04:32.07 | JeffM | and leaving at 10 is on sunday |
| 04:32.13 | JeffM | how many rooms did you want to get? |
| 04:32.25 | JeffM | they are 90$ a night if we stay saturday night |
| 04:35.01 | delusional | the wiki refers to http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzw.5.in |
| 04:35.34 | delusional | I attempted to upload my corrected bzw manpage to the wiki, but now it needs converted to wiki format. |
| 04:35.58 | JeffM | the wiki shoudl have had all the the info allready |
| 04:36.35 | delusional | it only refers to the manpages in Getting_help |
| 04:36.52 | delusional | ..at least my search showed no other manpage references |
| 04:37.04 | JeffM | I meant the wiki pages on the BZW format |
| 04:37.12 | JeffM | not the silly man pages |
| 04:37.17 | delusional | it does say that the man2hrml is wrong |
| 04:38.17 | JeffM | the only 2 objects I don't see being defined are dynamic color and texture matrix |
| 04:38.29 | JeffM | it shoudl be simple to add the items from the man page to those articles |
| 04:44.10 | delusional | still noce to have it all in one file |
| 04:44.20 | delusional | niice |
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| 06:31.31 | max | how to add good flags in server thro command? |
| 06:32.46 | max | i have added new map thro commans |
| 06:32.53 | max | now i want to gets flags also in it |
| 06:32.58 | max | how it will b possible? |
| 06:33.19 | max | this command i am using "bzfs -world /home/sss/Desktop/ContestCTF.bzw -j -ms 5 +r" |
| 06:33.25 | max | i want to use flags also in it |
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| 07:11.32 | Constitution | wow... |
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| 07:11.40 | Constitution | just noticed the new stuff in the todo |
| 07:11.46 | Constitution | ~JeffM++ |
| 07:11.51 | Constitution | ~DTRemenak++ |
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| 15:20.04 | delusional_ | what's the deal with plugins in 2.0.10, are they enabled in the download package? are there pre-built .so's? |
| 15:21.29 | blast007 | which download package? |
| 15:22.37 | blast007 | the only pre-built package for RC2 is for Windows |
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| 15:24.29 | delusional_ | are plugins enabled in it? |
| 15:25.01 | blast007 | yeah |
| 15:25.11 | delusional_ | what's the filetype in windows .la ? |
| 15:25.19 | blast007 | but we always do that for Windows |
| 15:25.20 | blast007 | .dll |
| 15:25.22 | delusional_ | does it have any? |
| 15:25.35 | blast007 | yeah |
| 15:25.49 | delusional_ | will the same thing be true in other builds? |
| 15:26.05 | blast007 | 16 of them in the Windows one |
| 15:26.24 | blast007 | as I said, the Windows build we do, we include the plugins |
| 15:26.30 | delusional_ | k |
| 15:26.31 | blast007 | and have ever since they were added afaik |
| 15:27.11 | delusional_ | but there weren't any .so's in my 2.0.8 package |
| 15:27.21 | blast007 | right |
| 15:27.24 | blast007 | that's not Windows |
| 15:27.45 | delusional_ | thanks |
| 15:29.03 | brlcad | woot, our ohloh enlistment updated! |
| 15:29.06 | brlcad | http://www.ohloh.net/projects/189 |
| 15:29.58 | delusional_ | i noticed that wasn't working for awhile. |
| 15:31.53 | brlcad | there was a problem in our root |
| 15:31.58 | brlcad | had to be manually fixed |
| 15:32.15 | brlcad | now it's fixed, and all the stats seem to be back on-line |
| 15:33.14 | brlcad | hehe |
| 15:33.53 | Chestal | we are special |
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| 15:34.12 | brlcad | must be commits prior to sf.net? |
| 15:35.23 | Chestal | hmm, I can't remember a pre-sf time |
| 15:37.58 | DTRemenak | looks like pre- and post-svn |
| 15:38.32 | brlcad | ah, maybe cvs was sensitive and svn isn't or vice-versa |
| 15:38.53 | DTRemenak | switched around March 07 (from lower to upper) |
| 15:38.54 | brlcad | s/sensitive/preserving/ |
| 15:39.30 | brlcad | yeah, sounds like svn preserves, cvs probably clamped to lowercase |
| 15:40.12 | DTRemenak | and I did get the invitation, thanks |
| 15:40.32 | brlcad | huh.. i'm apparently about to pass up riker |
| 15:40.42 | brlcad | i sent it to like three e-mails |
| 15:40.52 | brlcad | didn't have the gmail |
| 15:41.03 | DTRemenak | huh. only got it at one. |
| 15:41.12 | DTRemenak | yahoo, oddly enough |
| 15:41.26 | DTRemenak | <- at gmail |
| 15:41.35 | brlcad | got it |
| 15:41.48 | brlcad | just never received anything so you're not in my address book |
| 15:41.53 | brlcad | the others were |
| 15:42.04 | DTRemenak | could have gotten it from the soc mentor's page too...google accounts and all ;0 |
| 15:42.45 | brlcad | that's too much work |
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| 15:43.41 | brlcad | heh, your bell curve dip looks a lot like mine, but shifted a year forward |
| 15:44.40 | brlcad | and lacking of those massive spurts every four months |
| 15:44.41 | DTRemenak | you're a bit more spikey |
| 15:45.05 | brlcad | i guess that's about how often I got a breather or needed a break |
| 15:45.47 | wert613 | What did we ever do without google... |
| 15:46.11 | brlcad | we found pr0n |
| 15:46.31 | wert613 | heh |
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| 16:32.37 | JeffM | any more info on that mac build problem? |
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| 17:04.02 | JeffM | Erroneous, you get your invite? |
| 17:04.13 | Erroneous | yup |
| 17:04.17 | JeffM | cool |
| 17:04.22 | JeffM | brlcad, you there? |
| 17:04.38 | JeffM | looks like it's gonna be like 119 each way |
| 17:05.20 | JeffM | they have one that gets there about 3:30 friday, and leaves there at 10:30ish sunday |
| 17:05.26 | JeffM | that's what I was lookin at |
| 17:05.42 | JeffM | unless you wanted to get home earlier? |
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| 17:15.43 | Constitution | delusional: 2.0.8 did include plugins I believe... they should have been in a directory called "Plugins" within the application bundle. |
| 17:16.36 | Constitution | the mac .dmg, that is |
| 17:17.07 | Constitution | JeffM: what was the mac build problem? |
| 17:17.28 | brlcad | JeffM: I generally like to arrive early and leave late so I can explore some or code or work out or whatever |
| 17:17.54 | brlcad | but at this point, it'll probably depend heavily on the ticket availability .. have yet to book |
| 17:21.07 | JeffM | brlcad, I'm renting a car, so I figured we should all try to get and leave at the same time |
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| 17:23.03 | Win_School | darn, can't read anything on web IRC... bbl. |
| 17:24.58 | JeffM | Constitution, on an intel mac, crashing durning running with some wiered text system error |
| 17:25.21 | JeffM | brlcad, you want to get there friday, an go back sunday tho right? |
| 17:26.10 | JeffM | it's 90$ a night per room for staying the extra day |
| 17:28.56 | JeffM | cus I mean we can get there prety much any time on friday |
| 17:29.03 | JeffM | they run flights every hour |
| 17:29.12 | JeffM | we just need to book soon |
| 17:43.22 | brlcad | saturday is the important one, you can do whatever for Sun/Fri :) |
| 17:43.38 | brlcad | I suspect that'll just be more coding and mingling days |
| 17:44.44 | brlcad | just finished testing branch (again) .. didn't run into any problems/crashes here |
| 17:48.53 | Constitution | just to throw something out, this happened to me the other day... any ideas for the cause come to mind? http://fairserve.net/const/bz_bug_screenshot.png |
| 17:49.24 | JeffM | well they pay for the hotell on saturday |
| 17:49.32 | JeffM | well firday night/ saturday morning |
| 17:49.32 | Constitution | it was right after I left a server, then I had gone to the Find Server menu, and returned to the main screen |
| 17:49.47 | JeffM | then we'ld have to pay for it on sat night |
| 17:50.02 | JeffM | then leave on sunday |
| 17:50.12 | JeffM | when it's all over |
| 17:50.18 | JeffM | cus IIRC it ends sunday night |
| 17:50.25 | JeffM | saturday night |
| 17:50.26 | JeffM | my bad |
| 17:51.12 | brlcad | yeah, ends sat night |
| 17:51.25 | JeffM | that's why I figured we'd just fly out sunday morning |
| 17:51.30 | JeffM | so no rush to leave |
| 17:57.53 | jorgenpt | Yay, I'm finally doing electronics-stuff. |
| 17:58.04 | jorgenpt | Wrote soft-PWM, if anyone knows what PWM is. ;) |
| 17:58.45 | brlcad | ~pwm |
| 17:58.45 | ibot | i guess pwm is a VERY lightweight (really. I'm serious.) window manager that has the cool feature of being able to put multiple windows into one "frame". http://www.students.tut.fi/~tuomov/pwm/, or now in stable, or see also 'literal ion' |
| 17:59.03 | jorgenpt | Pulse-width modulation ;-) |
| 18:00.18 | JeffM | Erroneous, what time would you like to be home on sunday? |
| 18:00.19 | jorgenpt | It's a technique in digital electronics of delivering less power than what would've been delivered if the pin was constantly 'high' ('on') |
| 18:01.33 | jorgenpt | (In the base scenario, you either push 5V or 0V. PWM allows you to "emulate" having 2.5V by switching (fast) between 5V and 0V, 5V being on 50% of the time) |
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| 18:20.24 | brlcad | JeffM: which airport are you flying into? |
| 18:20.29 | JeffM | SJC |
| 18:20.31 | brlcad | k |
| 18:23.58 | JeffM | that's the clossest one I belive' |
| 18:24.01 | brlcad | do you have tickets yet? I see arrival times of 11:20 or 12:50 that would work well |
| 18:24.05 | brlcad | yeah, it is |
| 18:24.10 | brlcad | the others are 40 and 50 miles out |
| 18:24.16 | JeffM | I have the list of times |
| 18:24.38 | brlcad | hm? |
| 18:24.54 | JeffM | we can get in at 11:20 or 12:40 |
| 18:26.23 | JeffM | I'd be fine with ether |
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| 18:28.20 | JeffM | want to leave in the afternoon on sunday |
| 18:28.26 | JeffM | noon/one ish? |
| 18:28.40 | JeffM | leaves time for breakfast, etc. :) |
| 18:29.13 | brlcad | noon/afternoon works for me |
| 18:29.37 | JeffM | and did you want to use part if the 1500 we get to pay for the room/s for the extra day? |
| 18:31.03 | brlcad | no comprendo |
| 18:31.13 | JeffM | google only pays for one night |
| 18:31.22 | brlcad | right, across the board |
| 18:31.28 | JeffM | we'll be staying 2 nights |
| 18:32.06 | brlcad | 1500 was for international flight reimbursement |
| 18:32.14 | JeffM | no I mean for the mentor money |
| 18:32.22 | brlcad | ahhh |
| 18:32.38 | brlcad | sure, that works |
| 18:32.45 | JeffM | tell you waht, I'll take care of the car, you want to take care of the rooms? cus you'll be geting the google money. |
| 18:32.52 | brlcad | they haven't sent it yet, but it's comp-able |
| 18:32.53 | JeffM | the car just makes sense |
| 18:33.27 | JeffM | 88$ for the car as oposed to 30$ cab rides *3 people * 2 trips |
| 18:33.33 | JeffM | and we'll be able to drive around. |
| 18:33.55 | JeffM | maybe they'll give it out when we get there |
| 18:34.03 | JeffM | bag o' cash :) |
| 18:34.10 | brlcad | big ol' bag of pennies |
| 18:34.20 | brlcad | yeah, that's cool |
| 18:34.36 | JeffM | looks like our fares will only come to 258 round trip |
| 18:35.04 | JeffM | so I got us ariving at 11:20 friday, and leaving at 1:45 sunday |
| 18:35.18 | brlcad | did you book a room yet? I've got one for myself already, just the one bed atm -- dunno if you two want your own rooms as well |
| 18:35.30 | JeffM | I have not booked rooms at all |
| 18:35.49 | JeffM | they said they only have 200 rooms |
| 18:35.57 | brlcad | I think we can swing it either way easily since it's just 100 a night or something |
| 18:36.02 | JeffM | 90 |
| 18:36.10 | brlcad | plus tax ;) |
| 18:36.13 | JeffM | yeah |
| 18:36.28 | JeffM | ok, I'm booking that flight |
| 18:39.09 | brlcad | what's your arrival? |
| 18:39.22 | brlcad | 12:40? |
| 18:39.40 | JeffM | 11:20 |
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| 18:47.52 | brlcad | aiight, arriving at about 11:50 now .. leaving in the afternoon on sunday (2pm) |
| 18:48.19 | brlcad | by the way, ohloh stats are indeed back on-line now .. good stuff |
| 18:50.14 | JeffM | cool that should mesh nicely |
| 18:50.21 | JeffM | we get the car at noon |
| 18:50.26 | JeffM | I just sent my rembursal |
| 18:50.28 | JeffM | gota go feed |
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| 19:12.49 | Erroneous | JeffM: sounds good to me |
| 19:13.59 | brlcad | Erroneous: have you already booked a room? |
| 19:15.02 | brlcad | and regardless, preference on getting your own room or doubling up? |
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| 19:31.50 | Erroneous | no, and no particular preference |
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| 20:14.12 | JeffM | Erroneous, I sent my itinerary to your work mail |
| 20:14.19 | Erroneous | k |
| 20:15.32 | JeffM | and aperantly we're geting our own rooms, so don't forget to book that one. |
| 20:16.19 | JeffM | what I'm not sure is how google comps the hotell |
| 20:16.56 | JeffM | I guess they bundle that up in the rembursement |
| 20:18.50 | JeffM | brlcad, when you booked your room did you use a credit card? |
| 20:19.03 | JeffM | or use the 'pay by company" thing |
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| 20:25.01 | Erroneous | k, got the flights |
| 20:25.09 | JeffM | cool |
| 20:25.26 | JeffM | I got the car setup too |
| 20:25.30 | Erroneous | cool |
| 20:25.43 | brlcad | JeffM: pay by company |
| 20:25.49 | JeffM | k |
| 20:26.04 | JeffM | then I guess we pay for the extra day when we get there? |
| 20:26.13 | brlcad | likely at checkin we present the card, can put the rooms all on mine |
| 20:26.20 | JeffM | k |
| 20:26.39 | Erroneous | we need to send a copy of our itinerary to tiffany, right? |
| 20:26.43 | JeffM | yes |
| 20:26.55 | brlcad | be sure to say bzflag |
| 20:27.03 | JeffM | with your address as well |
| 20:27.13 | Erroneous | kk |
| 20:28.26 | JeffM | then I did my hotell room too |
| 20:29.02 | JeffM | I got us an intermediate car too, so should be a good 4door |
| 20:29.11 | JeffM | I may have a cupon for a free upgrade too :) |
| 20:30.18 | JeffM | Erroneous, oh and I had told Isy that you would probably be not here that friday, when I told him I wouldn't be :) |
| 20:30.36 | Erroneous | cool |
| 20:30.49 | JeffM | so I guess once you do your room, we are set to go :) |
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| 20:42.29 | Erroneous | heh. "If you agree to the Terms and Conditions & Cancellation Policy listed above, Please click 'Continue'"...but the only button is 'Submit'! :) |
| 20:43.12 | Erroneous | JeffM: k, got room |
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| 20:48.28 | a_meteorite | JeffM: probably considered a weapon since it's hard ;) |
| 20:50.21 | JeffM | mehh I'll just drive |
| 20:50.49 | Erroneous | wow |
| 20:51.03 | JeffM | yeah |
| 20:51.10 | JeffM | well 2 there, 2 back |
| 20:51.19 | JeffM | going to sacramento saturday |
| 20:51.22 | brlcad | looks like 2/3rds of those that can attend still haven't registered |
| 20:51.46 | JeffM | just means more free beer |
| 20:52.12 | Epyon | Rather more free speech xP |
| 20:52.27 | JeffM | no, with less people that's less speach |
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| 20:52.41 | JeffM | if you give that heas person gives off a constant amount of free speach |
| 20:52.48 | JeffM | but if there is a fixed total amount of beer |
| 20:52.51 | JeffM | and less people |
| 20:52.55 | JeffM | more beer per unit |
| 20:53.24 | brlcad | means we get rooms and they might not :) |
| 20:53.26 | JeffM | and since the beer input port is shared with the free speech output port on humans. |
| 20:53.34 | JeffM | that means less speach actualy |
| 20:53.47 | JeffM | since more port bandwith is allocated to beer |
| 20:54.12 | JeffM | I just got my room confirmation. |
| 20:54.51 | ryanakca | Electric2lf: ping? |
| 20:56.16 | Tupone | brlcad: still httpless? |
| 20:58.31 | brlcad | Tupone: nope |
| 21:02.40 | JeffM | brlcad, the intersting thing would be to see if we could find purple_cow and scanlime for a lunch or something that weekend |
| 21:03.45 | brlcad | that would be cool |
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| 21:14.23 | brlcad | it'd have to be either friday in the evening or sunday in the early morning |
| 21:14.23 | delusional_ | anybody got a copy of a recent BZWGen map? |
| 21:14.41 | brlcad | wonder if there's anyone else in the area that might want to meet up.. |
| 21:34.05 | JeffM | dunno |
| 21:34.15 | JeffM | I told the cow and he indicated it was a find idea |
| 21:34.47 | JeffM | mayhaps we could have a big dinner friday or breakfast sunday |
| 21:35.26 | JeffM | ahh I see that you've posted |
| 21:36.29 | JeffM | will the open sceene graph people be there? |
| 21:36.46 | JeffM | cus if so I'll bring a nerf bat to show them how much I love thier build system ;) |
| 21:41.56 | blast007 | heh |
| 21:43.48 | JeffM | now all we have to do is prod Erroneous into geting a laptop with nix on it, then we can do the 2.0.10 release from the confirence :) |
| 21:44.07 | Erroneous | meh, could do that remotely :) |
| 21:44.28 | JeffM | yeah but that's not nearly as cool |
| 21:44.44 | Tupone | what about Winny bug? |
| 21:45.02 | JeffM | I looked thru that code, for what coudl crash it |
| 21:45.03 | blast007 | JeffM: it would be cool if you were using a VNC server built into a bzfs plugin |
| 21:45.14 | JeffM | and haven't heard any one else with the issue |
| 21:45.26 | JeffM | blast007, heh |
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| 21:45.51 | JeffM | Tupone, maybe I can build a version that logs out where it is int he connect loop and we can get some more info on it |
| 21:46.25 | Tupone | without commiting it, I hope |
| 21:46.31 | JeffM | yes of course |
| 21:46.38 | JeffM | I mean a special build for him to run |
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| 21:46.54 | JeffM | has anyone else had the problem that you know of? |
| 21:46.57 | Tupone | There is no debugger he canuse? |
| 21:47.12 | JeffM | he dosn't not have one |
| 21:47.13 | Tupone | only Legolas that I cannot found, |
| 21:47.29 | JeffM | IIRC a_meteorite had the same issue as legolas |
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| 21:47.45 | JeffM | I'd like to see if they can try the build that brlcad has made |
| 21:47.46 | Tupone | no non-fee debugger ? |
| 21:47.54 | JeffM | he's been trying to duplicate it |
| 21:48.01 | JeffM | Tupone, it's windows, not really |
| 21:48.07 | JeffM | not that woudl not involve lots of installs |
| 21:48.29 | JeffM | he could put VC8 EE on there, download a couple gigs of stuff and then do his own build |
| 21:48.40 | JeffM | our releases arn't debug builds |
| 21:48.46 | JeffM | so just having a debuger won't help |
| 21:48.55 | JeffM | he'd have to build a full debug build, with symbols |
| 21:49.08 | JeffM | it's a lot simpler for me to dump out state logs |
| 21:49.10 | Tupone | ahh, you could do one for him |
| 21:49.24 | JeffM | yes but it'd be useless to him |
| 21:49.37 | JeffM | the debuger for VC is built INTO the ide for the compiler |
| 21:49.45 | JeffM | he'd have to install it all anyway |
| 21:49.51 | Winny | JeffM: from what I am guessing, the client is only recieving some of the information it is suppost to get while connecting to a server, and then it just sticks at "Trying..." |
| 21:50.06 | JeffM | Winny, yeah but it shoudl not crash |
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| 21:50.09 | JeffM | that's what bugs me |
| 21:50.22 | JeffM | sure if it locked and timed out, that'd be understanble |
| 21:50.22 | delusional | obj to drawinfo.bzw converter, written in php by tedius. http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=115310#115310 |
| 21:50.25 | Winny | is there a timeout built into the client for connecting to a server? |
| 21:50.25 | Tupone | no way to have a backtrace without a debugger? Just line of crash maybe |
| 21:50.26 | JeffM | but your crashing |
| 21:50.31 | JeffM | Tupone, nope |
| 21:50.37 | JeffM | it works totaly difrent then nix |
| 21:50.49 | JeffM | the only way to get "lines" is with debug symbols |
| 21:51.02 | JeffM | and to read that you need the full compiler/ide/debuger, etc.. |
| 21:51.07 | Winny | uh: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11513 |
| 21:51.46 | JeffM | what about it Winny ? |
| 21:52.14 | Winny | I don't get what he is saying, is he saying its a copy of BZFlag.org, or it forwards to bzflag.org |
| 21:52.17 | JeffM | I'll do what I can to build a loging version tongiht so we can at least see where it's crasching |
| 21:52.42 | JeffM | Winny, he purchased bzflag.biz and is offering sub domains to who ever wants them |
| 21:53.04 | JeffM | and for some reason he made a copy of the main site. |
| 21:53.13 | Winny | ohhh |
| 21:53.31 | JeffM | hopefully with a redirect |
| 21:53.58 | JeffM | or some sort of dynamic content pull, but I dunoo |
| 21:54.05 | brlcad | it's a cname like the .net and .com |
| 21:54.05 | JeffM | his domain, he can do what he wants with it :) |
| 21:54.22 | JeffM | ahh he pointed it to the sf site? |
| 21:54.32 | brlcad | he didn't copy the site, just points to the same IP |
| 21:54.40 | JeffM | fair nuf |
| 21:54.56 | brlcad | his "gift", one more tld in the conglomerate |
| 21:55.09 | JeffM | Winny, does it do it on local serves too? |
| 21:55.14 | JeffM | or just remote ones? |
| 21:55.18 | Tupone | JeffM: I remember some output form at crash with line of code where it stopped, long time ago :/ Without a debugger. Maybe a catch-all routine with possibility to print a useful line of code :/ |
| 21:55.31 | Tupone | with some program, not bzflag |
| 21:55.39 | Tupone | but I'm not so sure |
| 21:55.51 | JeffM | Tupone, yes there are libs and tools that apps can use to do runtime debuging, numega and the like |
| 21:55.57 | JeffM | we don't use any of those |
| 21:55.59 | brlcad | albeit didn't write the windows portions yet .. pita :) |
| 21:56.09 | JeffM | yeah it is a pita on windows |
| 21:56.17 | JeffM | hence why people charge lots of money for them ;) |
| 21:56.55 | brlcad | the interface isn't really that complicated, just a chunk of code |
| 21:56.56 | JeffM | it's STILL faster for me to add log lines |
| 21:57.01 | JeffM | for this one issue. |
| 21:57.39 | JeffM | I'd like to find it, but honestly if it was a huge issue I'd think others would be reporting it as well. |
| 21:57.53 | JeffM | I cant' belive that winny is the only person using the windows client. |
| 21:59.33 | Tupone | maybe the only person using 2.0.10rc2 windows |
| 21:59.41 | JeffM | that is what I doubt |
| 21:59.48 | JeffM | he had the prolblem with RC1 as well |
| 21:59.56 | JeffM | and I KNOW more then him used it |
| 22:00.14 | JeffM | Winny, you have a C drive right? |
| 22:06.44 | JeffM | and when will you have time to work on figuring out what the problem is? |
| 22:11.25 | JeffM | I have an exe for you to try when you have time to work on it |
| 22:13.26 | Winny | JeffM: I imagine I'm the only one, because my ISP is having horrible packet-dropping problems. |
| 22:13.47 | JeffM | posibly, but we still should not crash |
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| 22:13.54 | JeffM | we can error, but we should never crash |
| 22:14.00 | JeffM | you have time to try some stuff? |
| 22:14.04 | Winny | What is the timeout on server connections> |
| 22:14.06 | Winny | ?* |
| 22:14.13 | JeffM | 30 seconds IIRC |
| 22:14.20 | Winny | hm |
| 22:14.32 | JeffM | but even then we should NOT crash |
| 22:14.44 | JeffM | do you have a C drive? |
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| 22:15.11 | Winny | of course |
| 22:15.19 | JeffM | you don't have to have one, that's why I ask |
| 22:15.24 | JeffM | windows can go on any drive letter |
| 22:15.26 | JeffM | since NT |
| 22:15.29 | Winny | indeed |
| 22:15.41 | JeffM | ok, then you want to see if we can work out what the issue is? |
| 22:15.46 | Winny | sure |
| 22:15.47 | JeffM | I have a special EXE for you to run |
| 22:15.55 | JeffM | ok, make a copy of your RC2 bzflag.exe |
| 22:16.06 | Winny | alright |
| 22:16.18 | JeffM | then grab this |
| 22:16.20 | JeffM | http://www.opencombat.net/files/bz_bug/bzflag.zip |
| 22:16.26 | JeffM | and extrat the exe from that |
| 22:16.32 | JeffM | and put it in your RC2 dir |
| 22:16.37 | JeffM | and run it |
| 22:16.39 | JeffM | get it to crash |
| 22:17.03 | Winny | alright |
| 22:17.07 | JeffM | it will make a log file on your c drive called bzflog.txt |
| 22:17.11 | JeffM | lets see what's in there |
| 22:18.05 | Winny | ok, this might take a while |
| 22:18.09 | JeffM | this will tell us if you make it to the join internet game |
| 22:18.19 | JeffM | it's not a full install, just the exe, 300k |
| 22:18.33 | JeffM | but whenever you have the time |
| 22:19.34 | Winny | I love how it only crashes when I don't want it to |
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| 22:21.08 | JeffM | does it give you a module name when it crashes? bzflag.exe? or some dll name? |
| 22:21.16 | Macrosoft | Winny: train your mind to _want_ it ti crash, and all your problems are solved |
| 22:21.20 | JeffM | I don't remember if that only happens if you have VC installed or not |
| 22:21.21 | Macrosoft | *to |
| 22:21.26 | Winny | I need to Ctrl Alt Del it |
| 22:21.38 | JeffM | oh |
| 22:21.42 | JeffM | so it just locks up |
| 22:21.46 | JeffM | it dosn't actualy crash? |
| 22:22.02 | Chiliblue | I just got banned for cheating...but I only just installed the game...are there cheats in the game? how do I turn them off? |
| 22:22.03 | Winny | nope |
| 22:22.08 | Winny | it locks up |
| 22:22.09 | JeffM | it dosnt' give you the "bzflag.exe has performend an illeagl operation" |
| 22:22.12 | Winny | sorry |
| 22:22.14 | JeffM | ohh.. that's not a crash |
| 22:22.15 | JeffM | hmm |
| 22:22.17 | Macrosoft | Winny: have you tried waiting it out to see if it starts responding again? |
| 22:22.20 | JeffM | well run that, lets see what happens. |
| 22:22.38 | JeffM | Chiliblue, the game has no cheats built in |
| 22:22.56 | JeffM | talk to the admin that banned you, there probably just mistaken, or you were very laggy |
| 22:22.57 | Winny | rofl |
| 22:23.04 | Macrosoft | Winny: are you runnung in windowed mode? |
| 22:23.12 | Winny | Macrosoft: nope |
| 22:23.29 | Winny | I found a temp fix, sorta for now (just lower the brightness so it doesn't mess with gamma) |
| 22:23.32 | Chiliblue | I got accused of running fast movement and rapid reload, would lag cause that, I know the controls are all over the place |
| 22:23.35 | delusional | chiliblue, go to another server |
| 22:24.03 | Macrosoft | Winny: oh, mine stalls for about 30 sec. at random times if i run it windowed |
| 22:24.08 | awilcox | Winny: omg |
| 22:24.09 | Chiliblue | yes delusional I could do that, I just don't want to get banned from every where out of ignorance |
| 22:24.13 | JeffM | Chiliblue, it coudl make it appear to be, if you had high lag or packet loss, but most likely it was just a bad admin, there are many servers, they are not reltated. |
| 22:24.20 | awilcox | my bzf rc freezes at random as well |
| 22:24.36 | JeffM | Chiliblue, from a defualt install, there is nothign you can do that woudl be consisered cheating |
| 22:24.44 | JeffM | awilcox, dosnt' your COMPUTER do that? |
| 22:24.51 | Chiliblue | ok, then I shouldn't sweat it |
| 22:24.54 | awilcox | lol. no. |
| 22:25.06 | JeffM | Macrosoft, that would just be your system |
| 22:25.11 | Macrosoft | ...turning on energy saver solved the problem, but i turned that off because 25fps sucks |
| 22:25.12 | awilcox | it happens on multiple computers, at random, when I'm playing |
| 22:25.17 | delusional | chiliblue, its not a giant problem, no. |
| 22:25.23 | JeffM | hmmm |
| 22:25.30 | JeffM | awilcox, with my bin or dod you build yourself? |
| 22:25.32 | awilcox | all Winders machines. |
| 22:25.33 | a_meteorite | Chiliblue: which server? |
| 22:25.42 | awilcox | JeffM: your RC1 bin. |
| 22:25.57 | JeffM | did you ever get set up to build on your windows machine? |
| 22:26.13 | Chiliblue | are there any reasons for packet loss I can sort out, or is it just a matter of a poor isp or bad choice of server for me |
| 22:26.15 | Macrosoft | btw, is there a way to change what fps energy saver caps at? |
| 22:26.25 | awilcox | JeffM: Yeah, I did, I forgot about it |
| 22:26.28 | a_meteorite | Macrosoft: /localset fpsLimit xx |
| 22:26.30 | JeffM | Chiliblue, generaly not on your end, it's an ISP thing |
| 22:26.40 | awilcox | Chiliblue: ISP, and distant servers |
| 22:26.46 | awilcox | depends on where you are located |
| 22:26.49 | JeffM | awilcox, can you try to build your own and see if it dupes |
| 22:27.06 | Winny | god dangit, you've made it un-crashable I think. |
| 22:27.10 | Winny | I can't do it :P |
| 22:27.16 | JeffM | maybe building 32 bit bins on 64 bit windows is no bueno |
| 22:27.17 | awilcox | Hmm. |
| 22:27.20 | a_meteorite | don't test the devs, Winny :P |
| 22:27.28 | delusional | chiliblue, don't download or torrent, don't share your connection, or wire yourself directly to the router, dont use wireless |
| 22:27.30 | JeffM | a_meteorite, actualy yes he sould |
| 22:27.39 | JeffM | Winny, well play with it, keep trying and let me know if it does. |
| 22:27.42 | a_meteorite | JeffM: sarcasm... notice the :P |
| 22:27.45 | JeffM | I'll try a build when I get home |
| 22:27.55 | JeffM | maybe it's something with this system for builds. |
| 22:27.58 | awilcox | JeffM: Can I take the ZIP? |
| 22:28.06 | Winny | JeffM: did you change *anything* in that build besides adding logging? |
| 22:28.07 | Chiliblue | delusional, ironically, I have no torrents running and am hardwired to the router |
| 22:28.09 | JeffM | awilcox, sure if you want |
| 22:28.11 | a_meteorite | mine still crashes randomly, JeffM |
| 22:28.13 | JeffM | Winny, nope |
| 22:28.14 | a_meteorite | as of last night's svn |
| 22:28.16 | Winny | hm |
| 22:28.24 | JeffM | just loged out to a file the parts as we log into a server. |
| 22:28.34 | delusional | chili, go to other servers. |
| 22:28.37 | awilcox | oh, that isn't where mine is crashing |
| 22:28.46 | JeffM | a_meteorite, for you I don't know what to do, you need to work with brlcad, get his binary build and try that |
| 22:28.55 | a_meteorite | k |
| 22:29.29 | JeffM | he has one, a universal and has been trying to dupe your problem but has been unable to do so |
| 22:30.10 | JeffM | Chiliblue, what server was it? |
| 22:30.46 | JeffM | and did they not warn you before doing the ban? |
| 22:31.10 | a_meteorite | JeffM: does he have the build posted? |
| 22:31.24 | JeffM | no, that's why I said "get" it from him |
| 22:31.28 | JeffM | talk to him |
| 22:31.40 | Chiliblue | dub.bzflag.org |
| 22:31.42 | JeffM | if it was posted, I'd have given you the URL |
| 22:32.29 | JeffM | Chiliblue, did they warn you first? |
| 22:32.31 | a_meteorite | yeah.. I don't even know who runs that, and I'm not an admin there |
| 22:32.39 | Winny | Something has to be different in this EXE. Usually this happens once every ~20 joins. It hasn't happened in about 80 so far. |
| 22:32.55 | JeffM | well, it coudl be that it just compiled it difrent |
| 22:33.04 | JeffM | that's why I worry that it's something to do with my setup |
| 22:33.13 | JeffM | awilcox, can you try the zip too? |
| 22:33.30 | awilcox | smeh, I don't think I want to screw around with 2.0, you guys need anything specific with 2.2? |
| 22:33.32 | JeffM | I'll build a version at home tongiht on my 32 bit windows and see if that helps |
| 22:33.36 | Chiliblue | JeffM, they said I was cheating, I asked them what I was doing wrong...before I could work out or what I had done I was banned |
| 22:33.37 | awilcox | JeffM: Ah, sure, I can try |
| 22:33.50 | JeffM | awilcox, actualy we need testing of 2.0.10 |
| 22:34.03 | awilcox | must warn you, I have RC1, can I still use it? |
| 22:34.05 | JeffM | Chiliblue, then it was just a jerk admin, don't worry |
| 22:34.09 | JeffM | awilcox, get RC2 |
| 22:34.11 | awilcox | okay |
| 22:34.12 | Winny | JeffM: where was 2.0.9, 2.0.10rc2, etc compiled? |
| 22:34.26 | JeffM | RC1 and 2 were done here |
| 22:34.32 | awilcox | thing is, to be honest, JeffM, it mainly just freezes on Mum's computer on the rare times she's playing |
| 22:34.32 | Winny | gah. |
| 22:34.37 | JeffM | the older .9 ones were on my old machine here |
| 22:34.43 | JeffM | before I went to 64 bit windows |
| 22:34.45 | awilcox | so I suppose I can go there |
| 22:34.52 | JeffM | but I'm using the 32 bit compiler, so it "should" be the same |
| 22:34.55 | JeffM | but I have doubts |
| 22:35.05 | Winny | hmm, I wonder, 'cause I don't think this every happened on the p4 (on a core2duo right now) |
| 22:35.18 | JeffM | thats why I want to build one at home |
| 22:35.24 | JeffM | a nubmer of the older .9's were done at home |
| 22:35.48 | JeffM | the RCs were the first one that I also built my own curl using ares. |
| 22:36.11 | Chiliblue | JeffM, its fine, I wasn't all that worried, just having pressed every button on the keyboard to clear the players list I wasn't 100% I hadn't done something wrong |
| 22:36.14 | *** join/#bzflag AWOSDev (n=awilcox@unaffiliated/awosdev) |
| 22:36.33 | AWOSDev | now JeffM, do I download just plain RC2 or the ZIP file? |
| 22:36.39 | JeffM | both |
| 22:36.42 | AWOSDev | okay |
| 22:36.44 | JeffM | first just the rc |
| 22:36.46 | JeffM | try that |
| 22:36.51 | JeffM | see if it still has the same problem |
| 22:36.59 | Winny | JeffM: yup, can't make this hang. |
| 22:36.59 | JeffM | if it does, then get the zip and replace the exe |
| 22:37.03 | JeffM | Winny, hmm |
| 22:37.26 | JeffM | well let me check the logs, see if anything was added/changed since RC2 |
| 22:37.36 | AWOSDev | thisun --> http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.0.x/bzflag-2.0.10rc2.exe ? |
| 22:37.41 | JeffM | yes |
| 22:37.59 | Winny | I guess Ill leave that in my BZFlag dir for now then |
| 22:38.41 | JeffM | the only changes were a man page and an API spelling change. |
| 22:38.47 | AWOSDev | oh, btw, Mum thought this was a good game, but she cried when she accidentally TKed me. |
| 22:39.31 | AWOSDev | okay, this sucker is installed, I will test now |
| 22:39.33 | AWOSDev | wish me luck! |
| 22:41.00 | a_meteorite | JeffM: Chiliblue has a dual-core machine, isn't there timing issues in bzflag with dual-core? |
| 22:41.10 | a_meteorite | where your tank can appear fast? |
| 22:41.16 | JeffM | possibly |
| 22:41.16 | AWOSDev | okay |
| 22:41.18 | AWOSDev | it just froze. |
| 22:41.18 | Chiliblue | AMD 64 X2 |
| 22:41.23 | AWOSDev | that didn't take long at all. |
| 22:41.27 | JeffM | Chiliblue, what version of bzflag do you use, on what OS? |
| 22:41.36 | Chiliblue | XP, and it is the latest |
| 22:41.37 | AWOSDev | (raw RC2 without ZIP.) |
| 22:41.37 | JeffM | AWOSDev, ok try the zip exe |
| 22:41.44 | AWOSDev | JeffM: can you link me to the ZIP, please? |
| 22:41.49 | JeffM | Chiliblue, tell me the exact verison number |
| 22:41.55 | JeffM | AWOSDev, scroll up |
| 22:41.59 | Chiliblue | 2.0.8 |
| 22:42.07 | AWOSDev | JeffM: I just joined, that is why I am asking for it again. |
| 22:42.15 | AWOSDev | this is a different machine, much easier to lock |
| 22:42.35 | Chiliblue | before we go too far, I should poitn out XP is the 32bit version |
| 22:42.35 | JeffM | www.opencombat.net/files/ |
| 22:42.42 | JeffM | then like bzbug or something |
| 22:42.45 | AWOSDev | okay |
| 22:42.47 | AWOSDev | thanks |
| 22:42.48 | a_meteorite | see this post: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=110909#110909 |
| 22:42.53 | JeffM | Chiliblue, dosnt' matter, we don't have a 64 bit version |
| 22:42.58 | Chiliblue | ok |
| 22:43.02 | JeffM | and yes please use the RC2 |
| 22:43.08 | JeffM | it has changes for dual core timing |
| 22:43.57 | AWOSDev | okay testing with ZIp |
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| 22:46.51 | AWOSDev | Okay, JeffM, I locked it |
| 22:46.55 | AWOSDev | with the ZIP |
| 22:47.03 | JeffM | ok |
| 22:47.08 | JeffM | that was just a longshot guess anyway |
| 22:47.20 | JeffM | is there any other common software on those machines? |
| 22:47.21 | AWOSDev | the question is, what do I do now? |
| 22:47.26 | AWOSDev | JeffM: Windows. |
| 22:47.37 | JeffM | hah hah |
| 22:47.38 | AWOSDev | hmm, 2.0.8 is installed on both |
| 22:47.43 | JeffM | does that lock too? |
| 22:47.51 | AWOSDev | that one locks on both |
| 22:47.54 | JeffM | ahh |
| 22:48.04 | AWOSDev | I've been unsuccessful to get 2.0.10 to lock on my laptop though |
| 22:48.06 | JeffM | then it's nothing new |
| 22:48.29 | AWOSDev | no, but the strange thing (that may make it hardware) is the fact that it didn't _used_ to lock on my laptop |
| 22:48.43 | AWOSDev | and actually, I don't remember if 2.0.8 locks on this or not, I guess I'd better go test |
| 22:48.52 | JeffM | that would be a good test |
| 22:49.12 | Winny | AWOSDev: does the new exe that jeff made lock on your moms comp |
| 22:49.13 | Winny | ?* |
| 22:49.22 | AWOSDev | Winny: yes |
| 22:49.35 | AWOSDev | this is my mums computer and yes it locked |
| 22:49.47 | Winny | hm |
| 22:49.51 | JeffM | ok, then I'm sorry, we know .8 works on MANY computers |
| 22:49.59 | JeffM | it must be something on those systems |
| 22:50.15 | JeffM | perhaps drivers? |
| 22:50.21 | JeffM | have you updated them recently? |
| 22:50.28 | JeffM | installed any common utilities? |
| 22:50.36 | JeffM | got any new software udpates? |
| 22:50.49 | AWOSDev | 2.0.8 just locked |
| 22:51.14 | AWOSDev | no, this (mums) machine is Windows 98SE, and my machine is a Windows XP laptop |
| 22:51.20 | AWOSDev | there is nothing common about them |
| 22:51.21 | Winny | JeffM: wow |
| 22:51.30 | Winny | I fired up 2.0.9, FIRST try it locked |
| 22:51.41 | JeffM | I think I can get a client exe to build on the laptop |
| 22:51.43 | JeffM | with out the loging |
| 22:51.46 | JeffM | so we can try that |
| 22:52.11 | AWOSDev | JeffM: they have no common hardware, aside for possibly the ICH |
| 22:52.18 | JeffM | the what? |
| 22:52.27 | AWOSDev | I/O Controller Hub, the 82810 |
| 22:52.51 | JeffM | they both using 810 onboard video? |
| 22:52.53 | AWOSDev | what makes an i810 mobo an i810 mobo, the laptop is a P4 but I believe it has a similar one (possibly an i815) |
| 22:53.06 | AWOSDev | JeffM: No, the laptop has a sucky RADEON 7K |
| 22:53.10 | AWOSDev | this is an 810 onboard |
| 22:53.12 | JeffM | dunno then man |
| 22:53.24 | JeffM | but you've proven it's not something to do with this new release |
| 22:53.26 | AWOSDev | I suppose I can get rdb going and use the EXE I built |
| 22:53.35 | Winny | JeffM: I tried 2.0.8, and .9, they both locked up within 5 tries. |
| 22:53.37 | JeffM | and i have to spend the time to track down the new things, not old systems that have never worked |
| 22:53.39 | JeffM | Winny, ok |
| 22:53.46 | JeffM | well that's geting us somewhere |
| 22:53.48 | Winny | IIRC, it was 2.0.9s7 |
| 22:53.50 | JeffM | let me make a new build |
| 22:53.58 | Winny | err, s9 |
| 22:54.15 | JeffM | hmm, that's old |
| 22:54.22 | JeffM | but that may have been on this machine |
| 22:54.27 | JeffM | let me make one for you now |
| 22:54.41 | Winny | where did you compile the EXE in the zip file? |
| 22:54.50 | JeffM | on this machine |
| 22:54.55 | JeffM | same place as RC2 |
| 22:54.59 | Winny | weird |
| 22:55.02 | JeffM | indeed' |
| 22:55.08 | JeffM | that's why I'm trying another machine |
| 22:55.21 | JeffM | cus now I question this setup ( 32bit builds on a 64bit OS) |
| 22:55.28 | JeffM | maybe one of the system libs is difrent |
| 22:55.49 | JeffM | and maybe just adding asome code aroudnt he problem area simply moved the issue elsewhere |
| 22:55.54 | Chiliblue | JeffM rc2 made it a bit better |
| 22:56.12 | JeffM | Chiliblue, cool |
| 22:56.13 | Chiliblue | certainly stopped the whizzing around thing |
| 22:56.22 | Chiliblue | thanks for your help |
| 22:56.29 | JeffM | yeah dual cores can have wiered timinng issues |
| 22:56.38 | JeffM | the other option is to set the game to use a single core |
| 22:56.43 | Chiliblue | figures |
| 22:56.54 | JeffM | but that's why we put the code in there |
| 22:57.00 | Winny | just got 2.0.9s9 to hang on the 4th try again |
| 22:57.08 | JeffM | k |
| 22:57.17 | awilcox | (just asking) If I take the time to do remote debugging, and find a bug that only occurs on two archaic machines, will you devs even care? |
| 22:57.18 | JeffM | no need to do any more till this is done |
| 22:57.19 | Chiliblue | I think I just need to fine tune the settings now and get used to it, |
| 22:57.32 | JeffM | awilcox, depends on what the bug is |
| 22:57.35 | JeffM | if it's a good geneal fix, yes |
| 22:57.43 | JeffM | if the fix is a hack, for 2 machines, no |
| 22:57.50 | awilcox | heh, okay. |
| 22:58.18 | JeffM | if it's a hack for a signifigant number of machines, maybe |
| 22:58.25 | Winny | hmm, I probably should install a build environment on here... bleh. |
| 22:58.27 | *** part/#bzflag Chiliblue (n=ask@host86-148-183-46.range86-148.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:58.30 | awilcox | hah |
| 22:58.42 | awilcox | Winny: I believe MinGW32 is supported. |
| 22:58.52 | JeffM | vc8 EE |
| 22:58.59 | Winny | awilcox: I went with VC last time |
| 22:59.15 | Winny | I just... uh, reformatting 4 times and got a new computer, so I kind of need to do it again |
| 22:59.17 | JeffM | yeah doing your own debug build coudl be intersting |
| 22:59.24 | awilcox | ew, then you have to d/l the Platform SDK, or Windows Base Servies SDK, or whatever the 7734 they call it now |
| 22:59.32 | JeffM | but actualy I'd like it if you didn't do that just yet |
| 22:59.44 | JeffM | wait untill we try this other exe I'm making now. |
| 23:00.08 | awilcox | JeffM: I'm thinking, there is one thing common with these machines |
| 23:00.09 | Winny | k |
| 23:00.17 | awilcox | they are both running some form of the Gecko engine when it freezes |
| 23:00.18 | JeffM | awilcox, virus stuff? |
| 23:00.22 | JeffM | what is that? |
| 23:00.34 | awilcox | this laptop is running Firefox, and the desktop is running Netscape 7 |
| 23:00.43 | awilcox | JeffM: the Mozilla HTML engine |
| 23:00.47 | Erroneous | mingw+msys is supported, yes. you will need either the directx sdk, or sdl and take a 10-15% performance hit |
| 23:00.50 | JeffM | I'm sure you must have other common utils |
| 23:01.03 | JeffM | and no rumble in the trunk |
| 23:01.03 | Winny | I am as well running FF |
| 23:01.14 | awilcox | no, this laptop has no anti-virus (I don't use it that much) |
| 23:01.40 | JeffM | ok, so your ramant virus infections are causing your issue there, that's easy to write off ;) |
| 23:01.46 | JeffM | rampant even |
| 23:01.49 | Erroneous | heh |
| 23:01.50 | awilcox | okay, yes, they both have QuickTime and Chessmaster installed |
| 23:02.03 | JeffM | time to start narowing it down ;) |
| 23:02.04 | awilcox | JeffM: That wouldn't cause the desktop with brand new DAT files to crash :D |
| 23:02.12 | JeffM | dat? |
| 23:02.21 | awilcox | Definition something-or-other |
| 23:02.26 | awilcox | virus definition files. |
| 23:02.37 | JeffM | maybe, it ddpeends if your laptiop infected it with a rootkit first or not ;) |
| 23:02.37 | Winny | heh |
| 23:02.43 | awilcox | JeffM lol |
| 23:02.49 | Winny | did someone say sony? |
| 23:02.52 | JeffM | or if it got an admin password of your laptop then disabled it |
| 23:02.59 | JeffM | you run a big risk there |
| 23:03.16 | awilcox | :-/ |
| 23:03.42 | awilcox | would it calm everyone's (including newly found mine) nerves if I installed some anti-virus stuff on here and do a full scan? |
| 23:04.09 | Winny | awilcox: you didn't set an admin pass? :O |
| 23:04.17 | awilcox | Winny: >_> I set an admin pass |
| 23:04.21 | JeffM | it's your system, do what you want |
| 23:04.26 | JeffM | Winny, I'm uploading the exe now |
| 23:04.32 | Winny | ok |
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| 23:05.14 | JeffM | http://www.opencombat.net/files/bz_bug/bzflag_32.zip |
| 23:05.27 | Winny | this still has the logging stuff, correct? |
| 23:05.49 | JeffM | no |
| 23:05.55 | JeffM | it's a totaly clean build from svn |
| 23:06.00 | Winny | oh |
| 23:06.00 | JeffM | but done on a 32bit windows |
| 23:06.03 | Winny | ok |
| 23:06.18 | JeffM | this will tell me if it's the loging stuff that made it work, or if it's the build system |
| 23:06.57 | Winny | crashboomba |
| 23:07.00 | Winny | 3rd try |
| 23:07.26 | Winny | connecting to fusion.guleague.org:5158, if that matters |
| 23:07.28 | awilcox | Heh, who knew, I get McAfee 2007 free with my subscription. |
| 23:08.22 | Winny | so it appears to be the logging stuff. |
| 23:08.35 | JeffM | that, is not good |
| 23:08.43 | JeffM | that means it's a timing thing |
| 23:08.45 | JeffM | damn |
| 23:08.48 | awilcox | >_> "You must be using Firefox 1.5" I hate them. |
| 23:09.14 | awilcox | JeffM: ahh, yes, the common thread with every freeze is, it occurs when I press the shoot button |
| 23:09.26 | JeffM | awilcox, umm great |
| 23:09.30 | Winny | just did it a 2nd time, 5th try this time |
| 23:09.40 | JeffM | but like I said, I need to work on the NEW bugs, not old ones. |
| 23:10.01 | Erroneous | awilcox: turn off sound, see if you can still dupe it |
| 23:10.03 | JeffM | Winny, ok, I'm going to look at the code and try some stuff, will you be around to test things if need be? |
| 23:10.11 | Winny | should be here for an hour or so |
| 23:10.12 | awilcox | Erroneous: mmkay |
| 23:10.15 | JeffM | k |
| 23:11.21 | JeffM | Winny, does it crash on a local server? |
| 23:11.24 | JeffM | or just network ones? |
| 23:11.38 | Winny | it only crashes while connecting to american servers. Not european servers |
| 23:11.50 | JeffM | and you are in europe? |
| 23:11.52 | Winny | since american servers are the only place I have loss (12% - UDP) |
| 23:12.17 | Winny | no, thats the queer thing, I live in ottawa, canada, and I lag less at a server in germany then I do a server in montreal (2 hours away) |
| 23:12.38 | Winny | but thats a whole other bag of worms :p |
| 23:13.45 | AWOSDev | Interesting. |
| 23:14.04 | AWOSDev | Erroneous: I couldn't figure out how to turn sound off, but um, there are no tanks at the server I was testing on and now all of a sudden I can't make it freeze |
| 23:14.21 | AWOSDev | and I remember when I was trying to make it freeze the last time I couldn't, and I was playing alone on the BZOlympic map |
| 23:14.29 | macsforme | AWOSDev: turn sound volume down to zero in audio preferences |
| 23:14.31 | Erroneous | the first notch on the volume slider is sound off |
| 23:14.45 | AWOSDev | ahh, I thought that was only volume control |
| 23:14.52 | AWOSDev | didn't realise it would turn off, thanks to both of you |
| 23:14.56 | Erroneous | all our audio routines do an early bailout if volume is 0 |
| 23:15.20 | AWOSDev | anyways, is that strange that it only happens when there is more than just me? I will test on a more full server to see if this is true |
| 23:15.53 | Winny | JeffM: the amount of times it crashes seems to be directly corresponding to my UDP packetloss... (about 1/4-8 times) or 25-12.5% (average loss) |
| 23:16.28 | JeffM | I'm guessing that you ALSO have TCP packet loss too |
| 23:16.45 | JeffM | and we don't give the OS enough time to do resends |
| 23:17.04 | JeffM | but at least I now know it's in one of 2 functions |
| 23:17.19 | JeffM | so maybe we can put a little sleep or a wait there and see what gos |
| 23:17.33 | AWOSDev | And...it Froze. |
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| 23:17.42 | AWOSDev | Mofo make it go boom. |
| 23:19.01 | Erroneous | sound on or off? |
| 23:19.07 | awilcox | urgh, now I have to remember how to set up remote debugging. |
| 23:19.09 | Macrosoft | it would seem that the "shininess" parameter does nothing. |
| 23:19.16 | awilcox | sound on. |
| 23:23.25 | Erroneous | Macrosoft: what makes you say that? |
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| 23:24.10 | JeffM | winny, can you try this one please? http://www.opencombat.net/files/bz_bug/bzflag_wait.zip |
| 23:24.20 | Winny | indeed |
| 23:24.21 | JeffM | and add set doJoinWaits 1 to your config |
| 23:25.28 | JeffM | I replaced each call to the log function wtih a wait of 1/8th of a second |
| 23:25.32 | JeffM | to see if it just needs more time |
| 23:25.44 | JeffM | if that works, we can narrow it down to where we need to wait. |
| 23:25.55 | Tupone | What version of c-ares we have in the tree? |
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| 23:26.19 | JeffM | dunno |
| 23:26.22 | JeffM | I used whatever we had |
| 23:26.33 | JeffM | but I did build my own curl WITH ares this time :) |
| 23:26.40 | Tupone | maybe is old, lemme check. I don't use it |
| 23:26.47 | JeffM | maybe |
| 23:26.51 | JeffM | be a good thing to check :) |
| 23:27.02 | Tupone | ahh you build with one not in the tree? |
| 23:27.05 | Erroneous | CVS from April in trunk iirc. |
| 23:27.12 | JeffM | no I bult from what we have in our tree |
| 23:27.15 | JeffM | our curl, our ares |
| 23:27.23 | Winny | JeffM: it hung on the 6th try |
| 23:27.36 | JeffM | Winny, did you add the line to your config? |
| 23:27.37 | Erroneous | so 1.3.3 or some such |
| 23:27.39 | Tupone | curl is not in the tree (branch) |
| 23:27.48 | JeffM | Tupone, I built my own curl from the one in trunk |
| 23:27.52 | Erroneous | he probably built curl on trunk |
| 23:27.56 | JeffM | since you know I had the code there ;) |
| 23:28.03 | Tupone | I wonder what bzflag uses on windows |
| 23:28.11 | JeffM | for what? |
| 23:28.15 | Erroneous | since I fixed all the vc projects there, so he actually could without great pain and suffering |
| 23:28.15 | JeffM | ares? |
| 23:28.17 | Tupone | it's own or system one (ares) |
| 23:28.29 | JeffM | inside curl? or inside BZ? |
| 23:28.32 | Erroneous | bzflag is self-contained on windows |
| 23:28.35 | Winny | JeffM: yes |
| 23:28.36 | Tupone | inside BZ |
| 23:28.46 | Erroneous | uses its own curl, and its own ares. and its curl uses its ares also. |
| 23:28.47 | JeffM | we build ares for bz to use on windows |
| 23:28.48 | JeffM | in branch |
| 23:28.55 | JeffM | branch uses an external curl |
| 23:29.12 | JeffM | for this round I built my own curl that also used ares ( the one from trunk) |
| 23:29.22 | JeffM | and used the trunk one in branch for curl. |
| 23:29.30 | Tupone | so ares in the bztree (branch) could be the one used |
| 23:29.32 | Erroneous | branch's internal ares is 1.2.1 |
| 23:29.34 | Erroneous | so old |
| 23:29.40 | Erroneous | 3 years or so |
| 23:29.41 | JeffM | that is waht BZ uses |
| 23:29.45 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 23:29.53 | JeffM | perhaps it needs updating |
| 23:29.59 | Erroneous | probably should be updated |
| 23:30.05 | JeffM | could that be the issue? |
| 23:30.09 | Tupone | so maybe is time to update it? That problem smell c-ares |
| 23:30.31 | JeffM | well how hard will it be to update? |
| 23:30.42 | Winny | I switched back to the logging EXE, and it doesn't hang. :E |
| 23:30.50 | JeffM | hmmm |
| 23:30.54 | Erroneous | Macrosoft: so...gonna answer my question, or do you just like saying random stuff is broken without providing any additional information? |
| 23:30.56 | Tupone | I cannot say, as I don't use. Maybe just a copy of the trunk ? |
| 23:30.56 | JeffM | that is totaly bizare |
| 23:30.58 | brlcad | head has updated curl and cares iirc, branch still uses an older (*think*) |
| 23:31.31 | JeffM | Erroneous, he wont' answer, he just shies away when people ask him about his comments, cus I think he thinks we'll frorget that he's anoying. |
| 23:31.39 | Winny | suppose Ill just use that exe for now |
| 23:31.52 | Erroneous | JeffM: meh, never hurts to try |
| 23:32.14 | JeffM | ok, well, should I make my own little tree here that uses the ares from trunk and see if that helps? |
| 23:32.26 | JeffM | Tupone or Erroneous can you verify that trunk has a good ares? |
| 23:32.36 | Erroneous | good? no, can't verify that :) |
| 23:32.42 | Erroneous | wfm though |
| 23:32.42 | JeffM | well newish? |
| 23:32.45 | Erroneous | april |
| 23:32.50 | JeffM | of this year? |
| 23:32.53 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 23:32.56 | Erroneous | cvs, not release |
| 23:33.03 | JeffM | well it can't hurt to try it I guess |
| 23:33.42 | JeffM | getting a new tree |
| 23:34.12 | Tupone | April 16 2007 c-ares is |
| 23:34.23 | JeffM | and that's a better one you think right? |
| 23:34.34 | Winny | JeffM: the logging version just crashed... Ill see what it says |
| 23:34.34 | Erroneous | 1.3 fixed a number of windows issues iirc |
| 23:34.39 | Tupone | I remember issue fixed for windows |
| 23:34.47 | JeffM | then good enough reason to try it :) |
| 23:34.48 | Erroneous | including some pretty major ones |
| 23:35.02 | JeffM | I'll try a build with the one from trunk and we can have him test it |
| 23:35.08 | Winny | JeffM: it just gets to "START joinInternetGame" |
| 23:35.11 | JeffM | if that's better we can backport the update |
| 23:35.19 | JeffM | ok |
| 23:35.22 | JeffM | well that's something |
| 23:35.24 | Tupone | I have to sleep, cu |
| 23:35.29 | JeffM | have a good night Tupone |
| 23:35.29 | Erroneous | 'night |
| 23:35.38 | JeffM | Winny, I'm going to try something |
| 23:35.47 | JeffM | update the lib we do DNS lookups with |
| 23:35.53 | JeffM | cus thats one thing we do right then :) |
| 23:36.02 | JeffM | and is totaly UDP |
| 23:36.22 | Winny | writing to a file shouldn't effect DNS? |
| 23:36.33 | JeffM | writing a file takes time |
| 23:36.54 | JeffM | so it gives more time for the OS to process networkness |
| 23:37.16 | Winny | ah |
| 23:39.32 | Erroneous | heh, that's the fix I was thinking of: "1.3.0 [...] * Alfredo Tupone provided a fix for the Windows code in get_iphlpapi_dns_info() when getting the DNS server etc." |
| 23:40.51 | Winny | JeffM: as the number of players on the server increases, the numbers of hangs increases too |
| 23:51.16 | AWOSDev | Winny: :o The number of players increasing causes my number of locks to rise, too |
| 23:51.34 | AWOSDev | Could it be (unlikely but possible) that our bugs are related? |
| 23:51.36 | Winny | AWOSDev: but this occurs before the join even happens. |
| 23:51.45 | AWOSDev | Winny: I know...but still |
| 23:52.55 | Winny | Thanks for the help, JeffM |
| 23:54.43 | Winny | brb. |
| 23:55.34 | *** join/#bzflag Winny (n=KyleVE@unaffiliated/winny) |
