| 00:13.49 | KTL | Winny, |
| 00:13.52 | KTL | again |
| 00:13.55 | KTL | this time with catnip |
| 00:14.05 | KTL | and he says he "detected" something |
| 00:15.28 | L4m3r | brlcad: ping |
| 00:35.44 | Winny | KTL: on my wai |
| 00:35.50 | KTL | oho :) |
| 00:36.24 | blast007 | KTL: you don't have an really high FPS, do you? |
| 00:36.47 | KTL | i can play and see what it is, what's the button again? |
| 00:37.03 | Winny | blast007: they think's he's cheating causae of the compile date |
| 00:37.09 | blast007 | heh.... |
| 00:37.16 | blast007 | KTL: 't' |
| 00:37.20 | Winny | they;re comparing it to a windows build and going OMG DIFFERENT LOL |
| 00:37.30 | KTL | around 261 |
| 00:37.44 | blast007 | don't think that's high enough to cause issues |
| 00:37.49 | KTL | well, they also can't fathom the speed i can kill |
| 00:37.49 | Winny | nope |
| 00:38.04 | Winny | KTL: they're campers, they don't play offensivly |
| 00:38.39 | KTL | the same way i can't understand it if someone gets me, a load of anger changes the situation and then i don't have to worry about that anymore. but it does not work like that for them. |
| 00:39.31 | KTL | catnip, crunch_frog? possibly whammo too, makes minimally 3 mods who think i cheat |
| 00:40.00 | Winny | I sent a PM to badger |
| 00:40.13 | Winny | I usually get results from that |
| 00:40.20 | KTL | so catnip too uses the versioning as a sign?? |
| 00:40.28 | KTL | that was what he detected? |
| 00:40.30 | Winny | they all do |
| 00:40.40 | Winny | they have no idea how BZ versioning works |
| 00:42.12 | Winny | not fat enough already?! |
| 00:42.14 | Winny | :( |
| 00:42.16 | Winny | :D |
| 00:43.14 | KTL | he i could hack the client to show the windows version :D |
| 00:46.28 | brlcad | L4m3r: pong |
| 00:47.08 | Winny | KTL: :D |
| 00:47.13 | KTL | mmm? |
| 00:47.17 | KTL | ah :) |
| 00:47.22 | Winny | hacking to show windows version |
| 00:47.33 | KTL | that would solve somethings :D |
| 00:47.39 | Winny | my linux client says "LOLPWND" in the clientquery string, heh |
| 00:48.44 | KTL | if i would do that the amount of suspicous people would grow by a factor 10 |
| 00:48.54 | KTL | btw |
| 00:49.01 | KTL | is it possible to cheat |
| 00:49.10 | KTL | by making the radius of a hit smaller? |
| 00:49.15 | Winny | indeed |
| 00:49.17 | KTL | the tankradius |
| 00:49.23 | KTL | so ... how can one check on that? |
| 00:49.28 | Winny | not very easily |
| 00:49.38 | KTL | that's a problem for me then |
| 00:49.42 | Winny | use 2.0.9, it has basic hit detection |
| 00:50.06 | KTL | by the server? |
| 00:50.12 | SpazzyMcGee | http://my.bzflag.org/w/Subtle_Cheats |
| 00:51.20 | KTL | SkinnyTank |
| 00:54.16 | Winny | a baaad caaaase of lubbbing yooou |
| 00:55.21 | KTL | Winny, i'm still banned btw :D |
| 00:56.10 | Winny | same IP aaddr? |
| 00:56.16 | KTL | must be |
| 00:56.22 | Winny | kk |
| 00:56.24 | Winny | one sec |
| 00:56.53 | Winny | try joining |
| 00:57.48 | Winny | gosh, its been at least a year since I actually played there |
| 00:58.03 | Winny | I remember I used to stay there all day and get ~1500 points |
| 00:58.32 | Winny | aww, darn. |
| 00:58.52 | Winny | Molez pushed up my high score by ~100pts |
| 00:59.20 | KTL | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.30 | Winny | guess Ill have to top that sometime |
| 00:59.32 | Winny | yeah |
| 01:00.57 | KTL | the stats database should be reindexed or something, it became slow |
| 01:01.41 | Winny | hrm, not even loading for me anymore |
| 01:02.17 | Winny | Don't tell me it killed BZBB too |
| 01:21.13 | AAA_awright | I was definitely playing since bzflag 1.7g0. Now ibot knows, so there are no mix-ups. Seriously, BZFlag 1.7 had to have had one of the oddest numbering schemes I have seen on any program ever. |
| 01:23.28 | blast007 | AAA_awright: I started in 1.7e2 ;) |
| 01:23.41 | blast007 | and yeah, odd numbering |
| 01:28.08 | AAA_awright | What is the BZProto version for 2.1? |
| 01:28.27 | DTRemenak | varies |
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| 01:29.27 | AAA_awright | Of the current SVN? |
| 01:29.56 | AAA_awright | Better yet, what file is it in so I can see for myself? |
| 01:31.11 | blast007 | iirc, src/date/buildDate.cxx |
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| 02:33.02 | brlcad | SportChick: pingo |
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| 03:15.59 | AAA_awright | This is my idea for inter-server communication, and needs peer-review. I know bzcron was merged into the source tree, that plugin could benefit from this specification too: http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/specs/listserver-upgrade.html#tnstpd0 |
| 03:16.57 | AAA_awright | Sorry, next h3 down: http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/specs/listserver-upgrade.html#tsai0 |
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| 04:01.55 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r214 10/trunk/libirc/autogen.sh: update to the latest script, version 20070618 from brl-cad |
| 04:03.59 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r215 10/trunk/libirc/COPYING: license is supposed to be LGPL, not GPL .. readme is correct but this file is wrong |
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| 04:39.37 | jude- | hello all |
| 04:50.13 | delusional_ | hey jude.. still looking forward to using your application, it looks sweet so far |
| 04:50.43 | jude- | thanks :) |
| 04:51.02 | brlcad | screenshot! |
| 04:51.27 | delusional_ | ....doing meshes in text at the moment |
| 04:51.45 | delusional_ | i am |
| 04:52.49 | jude- | why not use a 3D editor and an exporter? |
| 04:54.01 | delusional_ | it's an easy one, just a single face, gonna have a 100 percent transparent texture on it, for a tricky ricochet |
| 04:54.32 | jude- | fun! |
| 04:56.00 | delusional_ | I've got a chain link fence, with barbed wire at the top, but the wire is an illusion.. it looks angled but it's not. I need a ricochet at a 45 degree angle |
| 04:56.27 | jude- | ahh |
| 05:06.43 | delusional_ | screenshot! http://cbg.bzflag.org/images/A-Delusion/untitled%20folder/bzfi0059.png |
| 05:07.13 | jude- | sweet! |
| 05:08.44 | brlcad | hehe |
| 05:09.39 | jude- | aww thanks :) |
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| 07:12.32 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r216 10/trunk/libirc/m4/ (. args.m4 cache.m4 mkdirp.m4 search.m4 stage.m4): add a bunch of boilerplate m4 macros to simplify the configure logic a bit |
| 07:13.37 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r217 10/trunk/libirc/Makefile.am: be sure that aclocal searches in the m4 dir for macros, require automake 1.6 and generate all dist formats |
| 07:15.33 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r218 10/trunk/libirc/configure.ac: update to better configure logic, using bc and bz as example |
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| 07:32.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r14724 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (12 files in 6 dirs): |
| 07:32.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: "shift", "spin", and "scale" transformations are reflected in the 3D scene for all BZW 2.x objects, and they can be added |
| 07:32.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: in the Master Configuration Dialog. |
| 07:35.33 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r219 10/trunk/libirc/misc/ (Makefile.am Makefile.defs): import brl-cad's nifty noprod rules |
| 07:37.17 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r220 10/trunk/libirc/m4/ (Makefile.am patch.m4): bring over BC_PATCH_LIBTOOL too, and add the m4 files to the dist |
| 07:40.39 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r221 10/trunk/libirc/ (Makefile.am configure.ac): use BC_PATCH_LIBTOOL, add m4 to the build path |
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| 07:49.18 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r222 10/trunk/libirc/ (configure.ac m4/Makefile.am m4/compiler.m4): import BC_SANITY_CHECK |
| 07:53.05 | a_meteorite | :o |
| 07:54.57 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r223 10/trunk/libirc/m4/args.m4: add --with-cxxflags |
| 07:55.59 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r224 10/trunk/libirc/configure.ac: condense the 32 or so lines down to one for the standard --with overrides via BC_WITH_FLAG_ARGS |
| 08:03.55 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r225 10/trunk/libirc/include/net.h: can't have anonymous typedef types used as parameters |
| 08:09.44 | a_meteorite | ~brlcad++ |
| 08:16.04 | L4m3r | ~brlcad += 42 |
| 08:16.33 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r226 10/trunk/libirc/examples/stupidServer/src/Makefile.am: fix minor copy-paste typo, should be stupidServer not stupidBot |
| 08:17.10 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r227 10/trunk/libirc/ (14 files in 13 dirs): propagate Makefile.defs throughout so that the recursive noprod rule works |
| 08:21.28 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r228 10/trunk/libirc/configure.ac: er, we're using svn for libirc, so check that when determining whether to enable/disable automatic dependency tracking |
| 08:25.48 | jude- | ~brlcad++ |
| 08:27.23 | jude- | slightly off-topic, but does anyone know how to make a 3D shear transformation matrix? I've been searching the internet for hours, and my own implementation doesn't work |
| 08:29.31 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r229 10/trunk/libirc/src/Makefile.am: bunch of files added/changed since this was first written, update to match current |
| 08:30.52 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r230 10/trunk/libirc/src/IRCUserManager.cpp: you still can't take a reference to a temporary anonymous type, also fix the handful of erase iterators |
| 08:31.07 | a_meteorite | brlcad: enough commits? :) |
| 08:31.28 | jude- | he's on a roll |
| 08:31.34 | a_meteorite | first libirc activity I've seen in a long long time |
| 08:33.53 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r231 10/trunk/libirc/src/ (irClientCommands.cpp irClientEvents.cpp): more instances of trying to take a reference to a temporary |
| 08:37.21 | CBG | ~jude-++ |
| 08:37.21 | CBG | ~brlcad++ |
| 08:37.51 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r232 10/trunk/libirc/ (4 files in 2 dirs): s/loger/logger/, and fix scope on the default loggers so they don't run into each other in the library. libIRC is now compilation-functional again. |
| 08:42.06 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r233 10/trunk/libirc/examples/simpleIRCConnect/src/simpleIRCConnect.cpp: yet another ref to temp, all examples compile now too |
| 09:07.22 | CIA-3 | libirc: 03brlcad * r234 10/trunk/libirc/ (8 files in 8 dirs): ... and now libIRC even successfully passes a make distcheck again ... ship it! |
| 09:07.56 | jude- | ~brlcad++ |
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| 09:38.15 | zee296 | hi |
| 10:30.56 | daxxar | ~brlcad++ |
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| 12:45.15 | menotume | ~karma brlcad |
| 12:45.15 | ibot | brlcad has karma of 1 |
| 12:45.25 | menotume | perfect :) |
| 12:45.42 | menotume | ~karma learner |
| 12:45.42 | ibot | learner has karma of 91 |
| 12:51.11 | trepan | ~learner*=10 |
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| 13:14.31 | menotume | 02ibot learner has a karma of 910 |
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| 13:41.51 | CBG` | Any bzbb admins about? |
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| 14:50.55 | blast007 | ~Winny++ |
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| 16:16.49 | brlcad | webshell is freaking sweet |
| 16:17.00 | brlcad | getting better every day |
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| 16:26.08 | daxxar | Huh? Webshell actually makes the ssh-connection *clientside*? |
| 16:27.27 | daxxar | Ah, no, it just relays it to a server. So you have to use https to get security? |
| 16:27.32 | daxxar | (and run it on a secure & trusted host) |
| 16:28.29 | daxxar | Ah, right, it's just a terminal? Hm. |
| 16:36.07 | brlcad | yep |
| 16:36.21 | brlcad | an ssh terminal over ssl |
| 16:40.13 | menotume | i don't get it. if you have to download it, why not just an ssh program, why http ? |
| 16:42.19 | SpazzyMcGee | It looks like it's marketing it's self for the portable device. |
| 16:42.47 | menotume | heh |
| 16:42.58 | menotume | https / rely on some server to relay |
| 16:43.03 | menotume | sillyness :P |
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| 16:43.23 | menotume | just write an ssh term in java or something |
| 16:44.00 | brlcad | i already have an ssh term in java |
| 16:44.14 | menotume | not to mention you're giving your login info to the relay server |
| 16:44.57 | brlcad | and it's practically useless in plenty of situations, gotta have java vm, still runs over port 22 from client (which is often blocked) |
| 16:45.12 | brlcad | it's not a relay |
| 16:45.17 | brlcad | you're logging in to that server |
| 16:45.32 | brlcad | so yeah, you need to trust the server you're trying to log in to.. |
| 16:45.40 | daxxar | menotume: The python backend handles the auth stuff on the local server, I think. |
| 16:45.49 | daxxar | brlcad: You have to do that for any ssh connection. ;-) |
| 16:46.04 | menotume | uhh |
| 16:46.07 | daxxar | menotume: iPhone doesn't support anything but AJAX-apps. :-) |
| 16:46.16 | menotume | oh |
| 16:46.27 | brlcad | even without the iphone, it's still useful |
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| 16:46.30 | daxxar | True |
| 16:46.36 | menotume | sillyness i tell you :P |
| 16:46.57 | brlcad | i've been away on travel plenty of times without an ssh client and without anything but port 80 or port 443 open |
| 16:47.01 | daxxar | menotume: That is, you're connecting to a HTTPS-server, that HTTPS server gets your credentials, checks them on the local system, authorizes your login. |
| 16:47.30 | daxxar | menotume: The AJAX app just gives you a usable terminal, the HTTPS-server takes care of authorizing you and relaying data between you and the programs you run,. |
| 16:48.00 | menotume | so, the server i'm trying to ssh to has to have something else installed ? |
| 16:48.04 | daxxar | brlcad: Since it runs as stand-alone, at least for my use, I'd have to get Apache2 (mod_proxy?) to relay to a local port on certain vhosts. |
| 16:48.13 | Chestal | yes, it's really annoying when the ports are blocked, have to prepare somethign to circumvent it. If they force a proxy you can usually tunnel through that |
| 16:48.13 | blast007 | menotume: yeah |
| 16:48.20 | daxxar | menotume: The server you're trying to ssh into has to have webshell installed. |
| 16:48.20 | menotume | useless ! |
| 16:48.30 | menotume | hehe |
| 16:48.38 | daxxar | menotume: No, because if you install webshell on a single host, then you can use ssh out from there. ;-) |
| 16:48.44 | Chestal | I just have a sshs listening on port 80 here |
| 16:48.48 | Chestal | sshd |
| 16:49.04 | menotume | there you go :) |
| 16:49.12 | daxxar | Often it's better to use port 443 for that, I used to have an iptables-rule that forwarded port 443 to 22 if the source-ip matched a pattern. |
| 16:49.23 | daxxar | Because most HTTP-proxies check the data on port 80, but they can't on por t443. |
| 16:49.37 | daxxar | port 443* |
| 16:49.46 | daxxar | s/most/the ones I've run into/ |
| 16:50.11 | daxxar | My last employer had a really *nazi* firewall, but they had open port 80, 443, 3389, 22, etcetera, so that was kinda nice. |
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| 16:50.39 | daxxar | They prevented things like P2P, online gaming, etcetera, but most regular stuff worked purfect. |
| 16:50.40 | ruskie | workplace firewalls should be *nazi* :) |
| 16:51.13 | daxxar | ruskie: I don't disagree, I just like that they had some leniency with stuff like ssh, rdesktop, etc. |
| 16:51.27 | ruskie | yeah |
| 16:51.33 | daxxar | (I guess it's because there was some legitimate uses for it in the workplace) |
| 16:51.43 | daxxar | They had really good firewall admins :-) |
| 16:51.47 | ruskie | :) |
| 16:51.54 | daxxar | Of course, that mostly was a PITA, but still, they were good at what they did. |
| 16:52.37 | daxxar | The firewall admin was a slightly round man who exclusively put mayonnaise on his bread for lunch. |
| 16:52.42 | ruskie | :) |
| 16:52.46 | daxxar | Thick layers of mayonnaise, and nothing else. :-P |
| 16:53.09 | daxxar | Nice guy, but he took his job fairly serious. |
| 16:53.23 | Epyon | last exam passed. Duh. |
| 16:53.34 | daxxar | Anyway, I just used ssh forwarding to get past it all, ;-) |
| 16:53.43 | daxxar | Epyon: Cool, what was the subject? |
| 16:53.52 | ruskie | daxxar, well as a sysadmin I can say I take my job seriously as well |
| 16:54.13 | Epyon | daxxar, Image Processing -_- |
| 16:54.22 | daxxar | ruskie: I respect that, but I expect you're not suprised if your users bitch about it behind your back? ;-) |
| 16:54.34 | daxxar | Epyon: Ooh, nice. :-) |
| 16:54.37 | ruskie | sticks and stones :) |
| 16:54.37 | daxxar | Did it go well? |
| 16:54.48 | Epyon | Nope. But I passed -_- |
| 16:54.48 | daxxar | Hehe |
| 16:54.57 | daxxar | Epyon: Better than what I did, sigh. |
| 16:55.04 | ruskie | lol |
| 16:55.04 | Epyon | daxxar? |
| 16:55.13 | ruskie | I still need 2 exams to pass to make this year.. |
| 16:55.38 | daxxar | Epyon: I failed one out of four exams, both terms. ;-) |
| 16:55.49 | Epyon | Well, that was my final exam. All that is left is to write the thesis, pass the msc exam, and I'm on PhD studies :/ |
| 16:56.05 | Epyon | daxxar, duh, sucks :/ |
| 16:56.07 | daxxar | Epyon: So I have two exams, 8. & 9. of august, respectively. |
| 16:56.18 | daxxar | Yeah, that sounds easy ^_^ |
| 16:57.01 | Epyon | Yep, but at least I can concentrate fully on my SoC project now. |
| 16:57.03 | daxxar | Anyway, I've gotta clean up a bit before my parents arrive. They've actually managed to motivate themselves to take the 12-hour-drive that getting here is. |
| 16:57.20 | ruskie | the one thing that's sad is when your associate tells you "I think you know more about this stuff than him" where him is a sysadmin that was at the same place for 13 years |
| 16:57.43 | daxxar | ruskie: Oof |
| 16:58.21 | daxxar | Yeah, that's nice, Epyon. I hope to be able to do the same between 8th and 20th. :-) |
| 16:58.21 | daxxar | Anyway, catch you guys later. :-) |
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| 17:39.51 | JeffM | wow, SGI O2's are smaller then I expected |
| 17:40.11 | brlcad | octanes are the big ones |
| 17:40.20 | JeffM | it's like cute small |
| 17:40.24 | brlcad | or onxy boxes |
| 17:40.28 | brlcad | er, onyx |
| 17:40.38 | JeffM | the outside is beat to crap |
| 17:41.24 | JeffM | now to find out what the root password is :( |
| 17:41.44 | blast007 | "irixrox" |
| 17:42.01 | JeffM | are you serious? |
| 17:42.09 | blast007 | am I ever serious? |
| 17:42.18 | blast007 | :) |
| 17:42.22 | JeffM | on tuesdays you can be |
| 17:42.26 | blast007 | heh |
| 17:43.22 | brlcad | boot single user and set it |
| 17:43.33 | JeffM | how? |
| 17:44.10 | brlcad | hell if I remember |
| 17:44.37 | brlcad | sgi's had some custom wierdness to feed kernel params that have long since faded |
| 17:44.39 | JeffM | heh |
| 17:45.16 | brlcad | maybe: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/sgi/faq/admin/section-19.html |
| 17:45.19 | brlcad | sounds familiar |
| 17:46.46 | JeffM | well I may not worry about it untill I re-install |
| 17:52.53 | JeffM | hmm I need to find a monitor that does sync on green |
| 17:54.03 | AAA_awright | I got three messages from my scanner overnight that the list server went down |
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| 20:35.20 | zee402 | ik |
| 20:35.26 | zee402 | hoy |
| 20:35.44 | tannerld | hi? |
| 20:35.45 | blast007 | hello |
| 20:35.49 | zee402 | ass hole |
| 20:35.59 | blast007 | uh |
| 20:36.06 | blast007 | o.O |
| 20:36.09 | tannerld | eheh |
| 20:36.12 | Winny | rofl |
| 20:36.41 | blast007 | 81.83.106.148 (d51536A94.access.telenet.be) |
| 20:36.43 | blast007 | ;) |
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| 22:05.19 | brlcad | JeffM: many modern lcd displays support sync-on-green now |
| 22:07.57 | JeffM | mine don't :) |
| 22:08.38 | Lagdog | JeffM: whats new? |
| 22:08.54 | JeffM | not much |
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| 22:11.20 | JeffM | DTRemenak and myself have a hokey plan to reset the root password, brlcad :) |
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| 22:12.26 | brlcad | does it involve magnets and screwdrivers? |
| 22:12.39 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 22:14.41 | JeffM | no |
| 22:14.54 | JeffM | it involves a linux machine, and network booting :) |
| 22:18.58 | AWOSLappy | hehe |
| 22:19.10 | AWOSLappy | "sudo passwd"? |
| 22:19.49 | brlcad | naw, if it'll mount, you just write a new password crypt |
| 22:20.28 | brlcad | and even if you wanted the old one, I believe default o2 just used crypt so you could l0phtcrack all the passwords in just a couple seconds on something modern |
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| 23:00.22 | jude- | hello all |
| 23:01.15 | Constitution | hi jude- |
| 23:01.39 | AAA_awright | Hi jude- |
| 23:03.42 | brlcad | the examples all seemed to work for me |
| 23:04.05 | brlcad | should stay functional pretty easily now that it's up to date |
| 23:04.25 | L4m3r | more than anything I just need to build and test, instead of going blind :) |
| 23:04.26 | brlcad | just have to keep an eye out for jeff taking references to temporaries :) |
| 23:04.59 | brlcad | which in all fairness, g++ should just deal with regardless of the dang spec |
| 23:05.42 | L4m3r | there was an issue before with std::map::erase, iirc |
| 23:06.06 | brlcad | yeah, that's another old school issue, but trivial to solve |
| 23:06.12 | L4m3r | the MS compiler returns the next std::map::iterator after the erasure, while C++ spec returns nothing, apparently |
| 23:06.17 | brlcad | you just stash the next iterator before the erase, then set it |
| 23:06.24 | L4m3r | yup :) |
| 23:06.42 | L4m3r | DTR showed me how to do that one |
| 23:06.45 | brlcad | so.. you shoulda been able to fix those problems :) |
| 23:06.54 | brlcad | though those were only after the build system was fixed |
| 23:07.17 | brlcad | i should probably fix the file names |
| 23:07.24 | L4m3r | well, the problem is, the code is hard to understand when you don't know what the M$ compiler was doing ;) |
| 23:07.46 | brlcad | mmmm.. too much caffeine |
| 23:08.02 | jude- | how can you have too much caffeine? |
| 23:08.10 | AAA_awright | My 2.1 client freeses when I connect to a web server. Wasn't that the point of sending "BZFLAG\r\n\r\n"? |
| 23:08.24 | L4m3r | yeah, it built fine. thanks, brlcad :) |
| 23:08.30 | jude- | caffeine is the Elixer of Life :) |
| 23:08.32 | L4m3r | ~brlcad++ |
| 23:08.55 | brlcad | AAA_awright: there's some bzfs bug |
| 23:09.11 | brlcad | I *think* it ends up dropping the client after trying a reverse lookup, so the client stalls |
| 23:09.29 | brlcad | it's random, so I'm highly thinking it's related to dns |
| 23:09.32 | AAA_awright | what does that have to do with the bzflag client that freezes when it connects to google.com:80? |
| 23:09.47 | brlcad | huh? |
| 23:10.21 | Epyon | brlcad, is this verbose enough? - http://bzflag.chaosforge.org/ |
| 23:10.33 | Epyon | I rethought a little the timeline. |
| 23:10.51 | brlcad | at a glance, yes .. I'll read it in detail in a lil bit |
| 23:11.22 | Epyon | Okay, I'm still here if you need me |
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| 23:14.35 | brlcad | scratch that, reading it now :) |
| 23:17.45 | brlcad | hm, have you written mesh/facet processing code before? |
| 23:18.28 | brlcad | usually pretty tricky stuff |
| 23:19.27 | brlcad | I'd suggest just wrapping your mesh/shape objects around bz's existing routines and the GTS Library where needed (particularly for boolean evaluation!) |
| 23:20.10 | brlcad | there's a couple other simple mesh libraries that could save you a lot of time too, but gts is pretty good |
| 23:20.21 | brlcad | that way you can focus more on the l-system |
| 23:20.34 | Epyon | Actually the only part that will be tricky is the boolean addition of meshes. |
| 23:20.53 | Epyon | I think I can manage the rest myself. |
| 23:21.18 | brlcad | yes, but that's exceptionally tricky, as well as doing subdivision correctly in a "good" way |
| 23:22.18 | brlcad | otherwise you could technically stick almost entirely to collections of mesh boxes in the l-system |
| 23:23.27 | brlcad | this isn't coffe |
| 23:23.34 | AWOSLappy | caffeappuchino? |
| 23:23.34 | brlcad | isn't like caffeinated chocolate milk |
| 23:23.52 | brlcad | heh s/sn/s/ |
| 23:24.18 | AWOSLappy | brlcad meant: is't like caffeinated cholocate milk |
| 23:24.22 | AWOSLappy | Er. |
| 23:24.22 | AWOSLappy | Bah. |
| 23:24.25 | AWOSLappy | I make a bad bot. |
| 23:24.25 | brlcad | :) |
| 23:24.27 | jude-|AFK | heh |
| 23:24.30 | jude-|AFK | bbl |
| 23:24.32 | AWOSLappy | brlcad meant: is't like caffeinated chocolate milk |
| 23:24.36 | brlcad | nice :) |
| 23:24.48 | AWOSLappy | :) |
| 23:25.57 | AWOSLappy | haha |
| 23:26.00 | AWOSLappy | quit?! |
| 23:26.05 | brlcad | Epyon: http://gts.sourceforge.net/ if you've not heard of them |
| 23:26.05 | AWOSLappy | to get caffeine? |
| 23:26.28 | brlcad | wuss caffeine |
| 23:26.34 | brlcad | soda poppy |
| 23:26.41 | AWOSLappy | hehe |
| 23:27.19 | Epyon | Yeah I've seen it while researching boolean mesh ops. |
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| 23:30.42 | Epyon | Since it's GPLed I can just copy/paste the few needed algos right? |
| 23:48.16 | tannerld | darn |
| 23:59.27 | brlcad | it's not GPL'd, it's LGPL'd |
