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| 00:07.34 | GrandHustla | urgh, CRW is runnin around on r3lax's server with no admins, can anyone here ban him? |
| 00:08.37 | Winny | R3lax's server...? |
| 00:08.41 | Winny | noone on it... |
| 00:09.15 | GrandHustla | r3lqax is there, but he's literally not there |
| 00:09.24 | Winny | what is the address |
| 00:09.44 | GrandHustla | oop, nevermind hes gone |
| 00:09.48 | GrandHustla | thanks though:) |
| 00:10.08 | Winny | :( |
| 00:10.09 | GrandHustla | hahaha |
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| 01:18.27 | spatialguru | anyone want to help me troubleshoot my lame c programmin gskills ;) |
| 01:18.30 | spatialguru | (err.. lack of ;) ) |
| 01:18.44 | spatialguru | http://rafb.net/p/T3UDCg23.html |
| 01:19.02 | spatialguru | worked, with mods, in v2 branch, but does spit out anything in trunk |
| 01:19.08 | spatialguru | it's a plugin |
| 01:19.35 | spatialguru | i'm thinking it doesn't even get into the switch or the case ?? |
| 01:19.51 | spatialguru | hmm, perhaps bz_ePlayerUpdateEvent is wrong now .. |
| 01:19.52 | spatialguru | ? |
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| 02:05.55 | Noodleman | http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/corraghessan/Budweiser2.jpg |
| 02:06.24 | blast007 | hi Noodleman :) |
| 02:10.10 | delusional_ | gotta give that one to my brother mike. |
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| 02:13.21 | spatialguru | a_meteorite: going back two hours :).. my plugin is supposed to spew out some info at approximately the same interval as all the uread()'s I'm getting |
| 02:13.43 | a_meteorite | err ok |
| 02:14.18 | a_meteorite | if your plugin is spitting out on stdout, uread would not be related to that afaik... |
| 02:14.25 | spatialguru | i'm getting "uread() len 31 from 127.0.0.1:53153 on 5" instead of a text printout i'm expecting |
| 02:14.52 | a_meteorite | well, your plugin is not printing out from a remote IP :0 |
| 02:15.00 | a_meteorite | that's bzfs spitting out those uread()' |
| 02:15.10 | a_meteorite | are you sure your plugin is loaded? /listplugins |
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| 02:15.29 | spatialguru | i'm thinking i've got a formatting problem ?? |
| 02:15.56 | a_meteorite | no, uread() is from bzfs having other problems, std::cout and printf are not even aware of bzfs |
| 02:20.31 | spatialguru | hi a_meteorite thx |
| 02:20.36 | spatialguru | this is a bzfs plugin |
| 02:20.48 | spatialguru | and yes, it says my plugin is loaded when I start it up |
| 02:21.22 | spatialguru | oh heh... |
| 02:21.23 | a_meteorite | what is the code you are using to print out messages? |
| 02:21.27 | spatialguru | maybe it is working.. .just a sec |
| 02:22.07 | spatialguru | no its not |
| 02:22.25 | a_meteorite | spatialguru: what is the code you are using to print out messages? |
| 02:22.40 | spatialguru | a_meteorite: http://rafb.net/p/T3UDCg23.html |
| 02:22.48 | spatialguru | this work with v2 branch.. (as blast007 knows :) ) |
| 02:22.59 | spatialguru | just cout << |
| 02:23.13 | a_meteorite | did you register the bz_ePlayerUpdateEvent event? |
| 02:26.20 | spatialguru | a_meteorite: as far as I can tell :) |
| 02:26.20 | spatialguru | sry, total c n00b |
| 02:26.40 | a_meteorite | post your *whole* plugin source |
| 02:28.52 | spatialguru | i got it now |
| 02:29.43 | spatialguru | well, mostly :) |
| 02:30.36 | spatialguru | a_meteorite: full source http://rafb.net/p/WYleg784.html |
| 02:30.59 | spatialguru | i just commented out the player stuff and got what i wanted |
| 02:31.09 | spatialguru | But I ultimately need to get that working too |
| 02:31.20 | spatialguru | i.e. lines 36-38, 47-49 |
| 02:31.36 | spatialguru | perhaps an api change is afecting it |
| 02:31.48 | a_meteorite | well, apparently the bz_ePlayerUpdateEvent isn't firing :) |
| 02:32.59 | a_meteorite | spatialguru: your if is assuming that the person must have global login |
| 02:36.18 | spatialguru | heh, yeah it was returning before it got to my important stuff ;) |
| 02:36.26 | a_meteorite | :P |
| 02:36.49 | spatialguru | all i want to get is the playername now |
| 02:36.56 | spatialguru | then i'll be laughing |
| 02:37.51 | a_meteorite | it's in your player record |
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| 03:03.54 | spatialguru | I should be able to get player id from event record too right? |
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| 03:11.13 | The_Vaxorcist | Ooh, I need help cross compiling bzflag for windows |
| 03:12.18 | The_Vaxorcist | for some reason it has /usr/include in the include path, so it is giving a ton of errors |
| 03:13.30 | spatialguru | can't you change the include path as a configure setting? |
| 03:15.21 | The_Vaxorcist | hmm, maybe, let's see |
| 03:17.46 | The_Vaxorcist | no |
| 03:21.48 | spatialguru | The_Vaxorcist: what is the include path supposed to be? |
| 03:21.59 | spatialguru | a_meteorite: I can find the playerid on the server, but any pointers to the name/nick of the player? |
| 03:22.05 | spatialguru | i.e. registered name |
| 03:22.19 | spatialguru | is it just "player" |
| 03:22.20 | spatialguru | ? |
| 03:22.38 | The_Vaxorcist | /usr/i486-mingw/include |
| 03:23.17 | spatialguru | so --prefix isn't what you want to set? |
| 03:23.27 | spatialguru | i guess that's for install location, not compile loc.. |
| 03:23.51 | blast007 | why cross compile? |
| 03:24.08 | The_Vaxorcist | I'm too lazy to reboot my computer |
| 03:24.16 | spatialguru | heh |
| 03:24.24 | spatialguru | but you'll have to reboot to play :D |
| 03:24.29 | blast007 | you're going to reboot to run the cross compiled game though |
| 03:24.34 | spatialguru | haha |
| 03:24.42 | blast007 | heh :) |
| 03:24.45 | spatialguru | sounds like a good learning exercise either way :) |
| 03:24.53 | The_Vaxorcist | what do you think wine is for? |
| 03:25.25 | blast007 | The_Vaxorcist: running software that doesn't natively run on linux |
| 03:25.29 | spatialguru | ahh... looks like i'm looking for 'callsign', eh blast007 ? |
| 03:25.48 | blast007 | spatialguru: probably |
| 03:25.49 | The_Vaxorcist | like a cross compiled bzflag? |
| 03:25.54 | The_Vaxorcist | whatever. |
| 03:28.08 | The_Vaxorcist | somehow, it is sneaking in -I/usr/include, causing a whole bunch of conflicts between headers for different platforms |
| 03:30.26 | The_Vaxorcist | wait, it's including both select.h and winsock.h |
| 03:40.38 | AAA_awright | Is the current SVN of BZFlag known to not build? Or is that just me? |
| 03:41.03 | AAA_awright | Sorry, bzfs |
| 03:41.12 | blast007 | trunk, or v2_0branch? |
| 03:41.56 | AAA_awright | trunk |
| 03:42.45 | blast007 | compiles for me |
| 03:42.51 | blast007 | but I use Visual Studio ;) |
| 03:43.02 | blast007 | at least, it's compiled in the last few days |
| 03:43.06 | spatialguru | compiles for me on mac with gcc |
| 03:43.12 | AAA_awright | make/g++ here |
| 03:43.12 | spatialguru | same here |
| 03:43.24 | spatialguru | sry g++ |
| 03:43.27 | spatialguru | yes |
| 03:43.52 | AAA_awright | Hm. |
| 03:44.04 | L4m3r | I didn't break it, I swear |
| 03:44.06 | blast007 | hello jude- |
| 03:44.12 | jude- | hello blast007 |
| 03:44.18 | spatialguru | L4m3r: that's a confession if I ever heard one ;) |
| 03:44.23 | L4m3r | :P |
| 03:44.36 | L4m3r | I compiled it maybe a week ago |
| 03:44.56 | L4m3r | I don't think any commits have been made against bzfs |
| 03:45.01 | L4m3r | jude-: SERIOUSLY |
| 03:45.08 | jude- | yes :) |
| 03:45.15 | L4m3r | I can't really commit anything until I resolve some library issues :P |
| 03:45.34 | AAA_awright | I actually would have preferred an editor that uses the native bzflag engine... |
| 03:45.52 | jude- | AAA_awright: the devs want to move AWAY from that engine |
| 03:46.15 | jude- | to a 3rd party game/rendering engine |
| 03:46.17 | L4m3r | AAA_awright: even then, ideally, it would not require siginificant modification of the bzf engine itself, so jude-'s project would be unlikely to bork the client |
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| 03:48.55 | AAA_awright | L4m3r: That means it's a good idea? |
| 03:49.30 | jude- | AAA_awright: I didn't use the bzf engine because I was worried that it would soon become obsolete |
| 03:49.42 | jude- | i.e. if the devs were to make the switch |
| 03:49.53 | L4m3r | AAA_awright: heck no. it just would not affect the niceness of not working directly on the game :P |
| 03:50.26 | jude- | heh--that too :) |
| 03:53.04 | L4m3r | overall, IMO, the engine should not matter as long as things are rendered the same way |
| 03:53.10 | AAA_awright | jude-: I would think the opposite, if the devs change the engine, it will still render the world the same. |
| 03:53.36 | jude- | AAA_awright: but the API might change |
| 03:54.28 | L4m3r | yes, and changing the engine is enough of a job without having to worry about not breaking the map editor :P |
| 03:55.04 | blast007 | "the native bzflag engine" hahahahahaha |
| 03:55.10 | blast007 | yeah, right |
| 03:55.36 | blast007 | AAA_awright: have you looked at the code, at all? |
| 03:55.59 | WinnyAFK | *tumbleweed* |
| 03:56.07 | blast007 | the "engine" is by no means seperated from the rest of the code |
| 03:56.07 | L4m3r | I think it was Jeff who said something to the effect of "calling the bzflag rendering system an 'engine' is an insult to real rendering engines" |
| 03:56.59 | jude- | The advantages to using a 3rd party 3D renderer are that the devs don't have to maintain a (large) scenegraph-like API, don't have to worry excessively over rendering hardware, don't have to debug and maintain cross-platform 3D API adapters, and only need to write an Adapter to the API ONCE (and even then, an Adapter is much easier to maintain than a 3D engine) |
| 03:57.33 | jude- | that's BZWB's approach |
| 03:59.15 | WinnyAFK | *cough* ogre3d *cough* |
| 04:00.39 | WinnyAFK | we could use the crysis engine ;) |
| 04:01.24 | jude- | CryENGINE2? |
| 04:02.05 | WinnyAFK | :D |
| 04:02.06 | WinnyAFK | :p |
| 04:02.19 | jude- | nonfree :P |
| 04:03.27 | WinnyAFK | if BZF could do this: http://www.crytek.com/images/gallery/cryengine2/environment_set3.jpg I would never stop making maps :p |
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| 04:10.00 | jude- | WinnyAFK: nice :) |
| 04:11.17 | blast007 | WinnyAFK: wow, their website rocks... Site News: "Connection failed: 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (111)" |
| 04:11.37 | WinnyAFK | hehe |
| 04:11.44 | WinnyAFK | Compromise ;) |
| 04:16.08 | WinnyAFK | all their web designers are working on the engine :o) |
| 04:16.30 | jude- | something like that :) |
| 04:19.17 | spatialguru | alright, i'm rocking now :) |
| 04:19.20 | spatialguru | thanks for the help guys |
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| 05:19.36 | brlcad | woot |
| 05:20.55 | Pumpernickel | woot |
| 05:22.38 | jude- | woot |
| 05:25.21 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/Makefile.osx: |
| 05:25.21 | CIA-3 | opencombat: declare _USE_COREIMAGE_ if we're on OS X so that it uses Core Graphics for image |
| 05:25.21 | CIA-3 | opencombat: loading. should support any coregraphics image types afaik (at least gif, jpg, |
| 05:25.21 | CIA-3 | opencombat: png, tiff iirc). no longer need libpng, only external dep is freetype. |
| 05:32.09 | L4m3r | omg, woot! |
| 05:33.00 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/client/inc/simpleWorld.h: incomplete type, include string |
| 05:33.21 | L4m3r | hm, nice media player, but $200 is a bit much to blow on an implulse purchase |
| 05:33.26 | AAA_awright | What is opencombat? |
| 05:34.20 | jude- | L4m3r: did you receive your midterm payment? |
| 05:34.27 | L4m3r | nope |
| 05:34.38 | L4m3r | haven't done the midterm yet |
| 05:36.07 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/GPLib/ (inc/textures.h src/textures.cpp): (log message trimmed) |
| 05:36.07 | CIA-3 | opencombat: remove the png image loader and replace it with a core graphics based image |
| 05:36.07 | CIA-3 | opencombat: loader for mac os x. also change the code so that you could have multiple |
| 05:36.07 | CIA-3 | opencombat: loaders if you really wanted, aborting during runtime if a supported loader |
| 05:36.07 | CIA-3 | opencombat: wasn't available/working. coregraphics only supports 32bit images for rendering |
| 05:36.09 | CIA-3 | opencombat: to buffers, so we create a 4bpp buffer regardless of the input image to keep it |
| 05:36.11 | CIA-3 | opencombat: simple. the client works like a charm now minus a few GL_TEXTURE_2D states |
| 05:38.58 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/Makefile.osx: quartzcore isn't used |
| 05:43.28 | L4m3r | so it's a race now, eh? |
| 05:43.59 | L4m3r | will 2.2 come out before a beta of Open Combat? :P |
| 05:46.25 | jude- | you mean Duke Nukem Whenever? |
| 05:50.57 | brlcad | http://opencombat.net/tmp/gp_osx_cg.png |
| 05:51.00 | brlcad | http://opencombat.net/tmp/gp_osx_cg2.png |
| 05:51.43 | jude- | sweet! |
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| 06:02.41 | AAA_awright | Any thoughts on my improved list server? http://labs.redjacket.ws/bzfls/ |
| 06:06.23 | a_meteorite | brlcad: sweet, I just got the latest GPx01, such an improvement over just two weeks ago |
| 06:06.34 | a_meteorite | two-three weeks ago you could barely make out what was going on in the window |
| 06:07.09 | a_meteorite | (re: the screenshots you posted) |
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| 07:11.03 | Macrosoft | :( beryl screwed up my box... lesson learned |
| 07:12.31 | jude- | what video card do you have? |
| 07:12.42 | Macrosoft | intel i810 |
| 07:12.45 | jude- | yup |
| 07:12.51 | jude- | screwed |
| 07:12.55 | jude- | use NVIDIA |
| 07:12.57 | Macrosoft | unscrewed |
| 07:13.12 | Macrosoft | lluckily, kdm still worked |
| 07:13.27 | jude- | no biggie: ctrl+alt+backspace, /etc/init.d/kdm restart |
| 07:13.27 | Macrosoft | i used it to fix gdm |
| 07:14.34 | Macrosoft | i think ill just stick with metacity from now on |
| 07:14.38 | jude- | heh |
| 07:14.42 | jude- | beryl is fusing with Compiz |
| 07:14.51 | jude- | it'll get there |
| 07:14.54 | purple_cow | Macrosoft: metacity is way faster anyway |
| 07:15.10 | Macrosoft | compiz by itself works somewhat |
| 07:15.19 | purple_cow | even on my desktop machine with a fancy video card, I was amazed at how much faster everything was when I switched back to it |
| 07:15.44 | Macrosoft | i just like th translucency, wobbly windows, and such that compiz has |
| 07:17.17 | Macrosoft | woo hoo, wobbly windows |
| 07:17.42 | Macrosoft | they jiggle like jello |
| 07:17.45 | jude- | purple_cow: what's your machine like? |
| 07:18.57 | purple_cow | pentium D, couple a gigs of RAM, nvidia 6800 GTO |
| 07:19.17 | jude- | nice |
| 07:19.43 | purple_cow | I don't use that one very much anymore, since it's in a different room from my stereo/TV |
| 07:19.44 | Macrosoft | :( i only have a 2.2GHz with 512MB |
| 07:20.08 | jude- | similar to my laptop |
| 07:20.20 | purple_cow | and often I just don't need that much speed to justify having it and two CRTs turned on |
| 07:20.58 | jude- | power-wise? |
| 07:21.22 | purple_cow | that and heat |
| 07:21.27 | jude- | heh |
| 07:21.30 | Macrosoft | do flat-panel monitors use less power than CRT's |
| 07:21.32 | Macrosoft | ? |
| 07:21.38 | jude- | IIRC, yes |
| 07:21.43 | purple_cow | Macrosoft: lots less |
| 07:21.58 | jude- | read: no cathode ray tubes :) |
| 07:21.59 | Macrosoft | what about heat? less or the same |
| 07:22.06 | purple_cow | if you have a CRT, put your hand on top |
| 07:22.09 | purple_cow | all that heat is wasted power |
| 07:22.16 | Macrosoft | i have a LCD |
| 07:22.55 | Macrosoft | have two CRT's under my bed though (my storage area for crap) |
| 07:23.10 | jude- | purple_cow: if you don't use that machine much, is there another? |
| 07:23.19 | purple_cow | I have a laptop |
| 07:23.36 | Macrosoft | *wishes he could afford a decent laptop* |
| 07:23.47 | jude- | Macrosoft: www.ebay.com |
| 07:24.52 | Macrosoft | can i buy used organs there too |
| 07:24.54 | Macrosoft | ? |
| 07:25.03 | jude- | ooh: buy.com sells Nokia n770s for $140 and free shipping! |
| 07:25.13 | jude- | Macrosoft: no; it's expressly illegal in their terms and conditions :P |
| 07:25.26 | purple_cow | I don't think that's the only place it's illegal |
| 07:25.47 | Macrosoft | but there's a bargain on a matching set of fingers :p |
| 07:26.25 | Macrosoft | you never know when you'll need a spare set of fingers |
| 07:26.27 | DTRemenak | pft, sure you can... http://cgi.ebay.com/Wick-Antique-Pipe-Organ-Good-condition_W0QQitemZ110145242291QQihZ001QQcategoryZ16219QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 07:26.45 | jude- | lol--that's a real groaner :P |
| 07:26.56 | purple_cow | DTRemenak: hahaha |
| 07:27.00 | purple_cow | nicely done |
| 07:27.12 | DTRemenak | tyvm :) I'll be here all week |
| 07:27.30 | jude- | okay, organs may be legal...but accordians should NEVER be allowed :P |
| 07:27.40 | purple_cow | bah |
| 07:27.44 | purple_cow | accordions are awesome instruments |
| 07:28.05 | jude- | accordians are the butt of a lot of jokes |
| 07:28.45 | purple_cow | jude-: doesn't mean they're not awesome |
| 07:28.49 | jude- | I know :) |
| 07:28.58 | purple_cow | I'll admit that most accordion players have pretty terrible taste |
| 07:29.02 | purple_cow | but in the right hands, they're great |
| 07:29.09 | Macrosoft | i bet that would look strange...someone pretending to play an accordian |
| 07:29.56 | Macrosoft | especially if you didnt know what they were doing... you might think they are just crazy |
| 07:31.56 | jude- | fat chance :P |
| 07:32.17 | jude- | first, only a brute-force attack can break any of my passwords |
| 07:32.24 | jude- | second, my disks are on an encrypted LVM |
| 07:32.35 | Macrosoft | ~LVM |
| 07:32.45 | ibot | somebody said lvm was Logical Volume Manager |
| 07:32.45 | Macrosoft | ? |
| 07:32.55 | Macrosoft | ok, there it goes |
| 07:33.03 | DTRemenak | jude-: paranoid much? |
| 07:33.11 | jude- | not really--that's my desktop |
| 07:33.23 | jude- | which I don't use much, as I have a sweet laptop |
| 07:33.35 | Macrosoft | he must have some dark secrets hidden on it |
| 07:33.52 | purple_cow | sounds heavy |
| 07:34.02 | jude- | not really....only 6.6 lbs |
| 07:34.07 | purple_cow | heavy |
| 07:34.15 | jude- | heavy for me is over 10 lbs |
| 07:34.41 | Macrosoft | heh, you should have seen the dinosaur i used to have, it was massive |
| 07:35.33 | DTRemenak | Macrosoft: some dinosaurs weighed less than jude-'s laptop - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compsognathus for instance (6.5lb) |
| 07:35.43 | Macrosoft | and the cooling fan was broken, so it got quite hot |
| 07:36.09 | jude- | purple_cow: dual Yonah processors, 256 MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400, 2 GB RAM, CD-RW/DVD combo, 40 GB harddisk (will upgrade soon) |
| 07:36.28 | Macrosoft | it was only a P1, so it never got hot enough to break itself |
| 07:36.38 | purple_cow | DTRemenak: aww, that looks adorable |
| 07:38.24 | Macrosoft | purple_cow: until it bites off your hand :) |
| 07:38.37 | DTRemenak | doesn't it though? it's around the same size as the dogs some women carry in their handbags :) |
| 07:39.11 | jude- | aren't those the species that ganged up and killed that one guy in Jurassic Park? |
| 07:39.22 | Macrosoft | its almost 3AM here...i better go |
| 07:39.43 | DTRemenak | In The Lost World: Jurassic Park, one of the characters incorrectly identifies the species as "Compsognathus triassicus", combining the genus name of Compsognathus with the species name of Procompsognathus, a distantly related small carnivore featured in the Jurassic Park novels. The "compys" are depicted as social animals that hunt in packs, behavior invented by the creators of Jurassic Park. |
| 07:39.59 | DTRemenak | at least read the link first :P |
| 07:41.39 | jude- | lol |
| 07:41.43 | Macro|nonexistan | crap |
| 07:41.55 | Macro|nonexistan | its still too long |
| 07:42.54 | MacroNonexistant | i have to do that because my autoaway doesnt work in GNOME |
| 07:43.09 | jude- | MacroNonexistant: use IRSSI |
| 07:43.17 | jude- | ~irssi++ |
| 07:43.18 | purple_cow | MacroNonexistant: I doubt it'd be able to bite off a hand |
| 07:43.33 | jude- | anymore than a chicken can bite off one's hand |
| 07:43.52 | purple_cow | it'd probably hurt, but iguana bites are probably a lot worse |
| 07:44.03 | purple_cow | and people keep those as pets |
| 07:44.19 | jude- | humans can be a weird species like that :) |
| 07:48.04 | Macrosoft | now to test my autoaway... |
| 07:56.25 | daxxar | Hello people. :-) |
| 07:57.17 | jude- | good morning daxxar :) |
| 07:57.33 | daxxar | Hey jude- :-) |
| 08:05.27 | daxxar | brlcad: You took a look a the code? :-) |
| 08:07.25 | brlcad | yep |
| 08:08.13 | brlcad | in detail |
| 08:08.35 | daxxar | Messages or diffs? =P |
| 08:09.20 | brlcad | both, though moreso the code |
| 08:11.22 | daxxar | ok |
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| 08:31.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03daxxar * r14486 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/ (10 files): |
| 08:31.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Frontend now waits for a connection to be established before initializing TestBot. |
| 08:31.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Fixed a bug in sendAndProcess - it wasn't pop()ing replies. |
| 08:31.38 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Now only supports one bot. |
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| 09:07.14 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r14487 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (14 files in 11 dirs): |
| 09:07.14 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Woohoo! You can now select objects and translate them with the 3D cursor! |
| 09:07.14 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: It's *almost* perfect; somehow the cursor doesn't always center on the |
| 09:07.14 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: selection, but at least we have something remotely useful in the way of a |
| 09:07.14 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 3D UI (and now I know my event-handler model works). |
| 09:08.28 | daxxar | What signal does ^C send to the process again? |
| 09:08.41 | jude- | SIGKILL, IIRC |
| 09:08.52 | jude- | or was it SIGTERM? |
| 09:09.00 | daxxar | TERM, I think |
| 09:09.10 | daxxar | SIGINT |
| 09:09.13 | daxxar | Claims google |
| 09:09.25 | daxxar | "SIGINT is the signal number for control-c signals; it is defined in the #include file mentioned above." |
| 09:09.44 | jude- | I'd go with google's answer instead of mine if I were you :) |
| 09:10.15 | daxxar | man 7 signal |
| 09:10.16 | daxxar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:10.44 | jude- | makes sense (SIGnal INTerrupt) |
| 09:11.14 | daxxar | Hm. What happens to file-handles when you fork? Does a child-process have the same stdin? |
| 09:11.33 | jude- | I would think so... |
| 09:11.36 | daxxar | I'm having some issues with ^C killing parent, but not child, so child runs in the background - but keeping stdout (spewing gunk) |
| 09:12.21 | jude- | well...hmmmm |
| 09:12.50 | daxxar | Wether or not it inherits signal handlers, the default action for SIGINT is term. |
| 09:13.11 | jude- | http://rss.acs.unt.edu/Rdoc/library/fork/html/fork.html |
| 09:13.21 | jude- | says stdin and stdout are the same in the child process |
| 09:13.44 | jude- | what state is the child in? |
| 09:13.55 | jude- | if it's a zombie, you'll have to use the kill command and explicitly send SIGKILL |
| 09:15.00 | Chestal | the signal is not really related to stdin |
| 09:15.25 | daxxar | Oh, the terminal or shell sends it? |
| 09:15.31 | Chestal | it's got something to do wit htty/session/process group, but if you do nothing special, the signal should be received |
| 09:15.38 | Chestal | s/htty/tty/ |
| 09:15.55 | daxxar | It's not a zombie, jude |
| 09:15.56 | daxxar | daxxar 17470 10.3 0.2 15136 2604 pts/5 R 11:14 0:03 /home/daxxar/projects/bzflag/src/bzrobots/bzrobots -team green -p 1033 |
| 09:16.10 | daxxar | It runs fine, but it should die. |
| 09:16.17 | daxxar | Chestal: Signals are propagated to all children? |
| 09:16.38 | Chestal | no, but I think the shell (or whatever) sends it to the whole process group |
| 09:16.43 | daxxar | ok |
| 09:16.58 | Chestal | and unless you mess with process group ids, all of your children should receive it |
| 09:17.11 | daxxar | I don't |
| 09:17.15 | Chestal | been some time since I done such things, though |
| 09:17.38 | Chestal | hmm |
| 09:18.14 | Chestal | you bette rread up on it, I might be mistaken |
| 09:18.23 | Chestal | maybe you are supposed to stat a new process group if you spawn children |
| 09:18.29 | Chestal | start, even |
| 09:23.03 | daxxar | Hmm. It seems to recieve the signal. |
| 09:24.11 | eTangenT | hm, so I havve a plugin that won't start. Says the plugin wants an older API version (15) |
| 09:25.55 | eTangenT | what might cause taht? |
| 09:26.01 | daxxar | Uh. What the. :o |
| 09:26.13 | daxxar | In the child process, I'm now doing: bzSignal(SIGINT, SIG_PF(Frontend::exit)); |
| 09:27.08 | daxxar | Frontend::exit is a static function, which does std::cout << "SIGINT!1" << std::endl; - when I ^C, the parent process exits, and the child process spams a gazillion "SIGINT!1". |
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| 09:29.21 | eTangenT | nevermind my query, figured it out. |
| 09:32.12 | daxxar | hmm, bzSignal(SIGINT, SIG_DFL); made it work okay. o.0 |
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| 10:24.15 | daxxar | Is there any flat, boring map? |
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| 10:54.51 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03daxxar * r14488 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/ (12 files): |
| 10:54.51 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Now Frontend dies on SIGINT. |
| 10:54.51 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: TestRobot now does something a bit more useful; goes forward (while firing), turns 90 degrees, repeat. |
| 10:54.51 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: If no -p / -rcPort, use a random port. |
| 10:54.52 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Implemented setAhead, setTurnLeft, getDistanceRemaining and getTurnRemaining in BZAdvancedRobot. (also decent ctors in RCRequests & RCReplies, and updateBot-s) |
| 10:54.56 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: TestRobot doesn't 100% do what it's supposed to yet, will have to be debugged. |
| 10:56.43 | daxxar | =) |
| 11:03.27 | daxxar | Hmm, interesting, getDistanceRemaining() increases as I execute(), even though speed > = |
| 11:03.31 | daxxar | speed > 0 |
| 11:03.36 | daxxar | (and the bot moves forward) |
| 11:03.38 | daxxar | Backendbugs ahoy! |
| 11:17.49 | daxxar | Hmm. brlcad, you around? |
| 11:17.59 | daxxar | Or DTRemenak or anyone else, for that matter. |
| 11:19.49 | daxxar | I think I'm making some wrong assumptions about setDesiredSpeed, getVelocity, setDesiredAngVel and getAngularVelocity |
| 11:20.58 | daxxar | 'cause when getAngularVelocity() * dt sums up to ~1, it's been about 90 degrees |
| 11:21.14 | daxxar | Hm, does it work with radians, perhaps. |
| 11:21.40 | daxxar | And with getVelocity, sometimes it seems to return negative, even though I'm going forward. (that error could be mine, I'll ave to look into it) |
| 11:21.43 | daxxar | have* |
| 11:21.50 | daxxar | brb, quick lunch |
| 11:45.47 | Chestal | daxxar: all angular stuff is in radians |
| 11:47.32 | Chestal | daxxar: about getVelocity(), I don't quite understand. It returns a 3D speed vector I think (x,y,z) where sqrt(x*x+y*y) should be your planar speed which corresponds to setDesiredSpeed() |
| 11:54.00 | daxxar | Why is it set to return int* instead of int[3] ? |
| 12:02.06 | daxxar | eh, float* instead of float[3] |
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| 12:18.17 | daxxar | Does any of you knwo of a flat map? =p |
| 12:18.44 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03daxxar * r14489 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/ (RCRequests.cxx RCRobotPlayer.cxx TestRobot.cxx): |
| 12:18.44 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: ExecuteReq and GetTurnRemainingReq now convert to and from radians. |
| 12:18.44 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: We now actually realize that getVelocity returns a vector, and do NOT rely only on the x-part of it. *cough* |
| 12:18.44 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: (TestRobot actually "works" now!) |
| 12:19.22 | TheRedBaron | daxxar: they are all flat :) |
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| 12:20.15 | daxxar | Well, without obstacles ;-) |
| 12:26.24 | daxxar | Not too hard to make one, I guess |
| 12:29.30 | daxxar | Heh, intuitive errors |
| 12:29.30 | daxxar | /home/daxxar/projects/bzflag/empty_world.bzw: warning (line 6): unknown object parameter "color" - skipping |
| 12:29.46 | daxxar | Because I had 'color 0' (copypasted from the manpage as the default value, of course invalid - but still) |
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| 12:34.51 | daxxar | doesn't world, size 100.0 mean 100x100? :- |
| 12:34.52 | daxxar | :-O |
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| 12:43.44 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03daxxar * r14490 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/empty_world.bzw: an empty map (i cant seem to center bases properly, i guess i suck), useful for testing the bots (especially for RoboCode bots, and normal bots before I implement obstacles and events) |
| 13:05.02 | Thumper_ | daxxar: I think you need to double that since coords go from -100 to 100 on both axis |
| 13:05.37 | Thumper_ | IIRC |
| 13:14.29 | daxxar | Ah, thanks. |
| 13:14.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03daxxar * r14491 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/empty_world.bzw: centered spawns (thanks Thumper_) |
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| 13:25.23 | Epyon | daxxar, the same goes for boxes surprisingly o.O |
| 13:27.01 | daxxar | Epyon: Strange. ;-P |
| 13:27.13 | daxxar | How's your gsoc code coming along? |
| 13:27.34 | daxxar | Hrm, and where can I get information about the world like dimensions? Can't see anything in the World class. :-S |
| 13:30.21 | daxxar | Ah, BZDB.get(StateDatabase::BZDB_WORLDSIZE) |
| 13:34.50 | Chestal | daxxar: you can use BZDBCache::worldSize; |
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| 13:52.25 | daxxar | There are no plans on supporting non-square maps, right? ;-) |
| 13:53.17 | Chestal | search for 'pentagon' in the server list :-) |
| 13:53.27 | daxxar | If worldSize is 'w', does the coordinates go from (-w, -w) -> (w, w), or from (-w/2, -w/2) -> (w/2, w/2)? |
| 13:53.31 | blast007 | they're still technically square though |
| 13:54.06 | blast007 | they just turn off the outside wall, set up spawn zones, and build their own walls using map geometry |
| 13:54.18 | daxxar | Ah, okay. |
| 13:54.30 | Chestal | yes, you still have the square as a bounding box |
| 13:55.08 | daxxar | Then |GetBattleFieldWidth & |GetBattleFieldHeight will be AdvancedRobot-only (RoboCode support), and the BZAdvancedRobot will have GetBattleFieldSize |
| 13:55.11 | Chestal | all I know is that the default is from -400 to 400 |
| 13:55.51 | blast007 | daxxar: it's (-w/2, -w/2) -> (w/2, w/2) |
| 13:55.54 | blast007 | just checked |
| 13:56.11 | daxxar | Okay, thanks. :-) |
| 14:18.52 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03daxxar * r14492 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/ (17 files): |
| 14:18.52 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Implemented setTurnRate and setSpeed in BZAdvancedRobot |
| 14:18.52 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Created MessageUtilities, which has parseFloat, clamp and parseSingleFloat (code reuse ;) |
| 14:18.52 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Created GetBattleFieldSizeReq & BattleFieldSizeReply |
| 14:18.52 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: parseStatus -> messageParseStatus, and no longer inside the template. |
| 14:18.52 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Fixed some brokenness in Robot.h |
| 14:19.42 | daxxar | brlcad: Should I make it so Robot uses (0, 0) as lower left, and BZRobot uses (0, 0) as origo - or make it all use (0, 0) as lower left? |
| 14:19.54 | daxxar | (RoboCode specifies Returns the X position of the robot. (0,0) is at the bottom left of the battlefield.) |
| 14:20.15 | daxxar | I mean, is there any point in making BZRobot use the BZF coordinates? |
| 14:20.21 | daxxar | (anyone can give input here, btw) |
| 14:23.14 | brlcad | ~daxxar++ |
| 14:23.30 | daxxar | What's the plussies for? |
| 14:23.43 | brlcad | just finished reading the commits through the night :) |
| 14:23.46 | daxxar | ~Chestal++ |
| 14:23.47 | daxxar | Ah. ;-) |
| 14:24.14 | daxxar | Meep, I accidentally wrote the ssh escape-character, and was dropped to the ssh-shell. |
| 14:24.17 | daxxar | Scary. |
| 14:24.55 | brlcad | Robot should definitely use 0,0 lower left |
| 14:25.27 | brlcad | your call on whether BZRobot matches or keeps ours (my sense would be to keep ours, but meh) |
| 14:26.26 | daxxar | Making it lower-left makes it a bit simpler; you can do stuff like if (getX() + 10 > getBattleFieldWidth()) |
| 14:27.40 | daxxar | Did some changes to the protocol wiki; removed <bot> from a few commands, changed getBattleFieldWidth/Height to Size, and other minor corrections. |
| 14:31.37 | daxxar | I'll go for lower-left and not origo |
| 14:33.25 | daxxar | brlcad: The C++ API (non-RoboCode-compliant) is usable in not long. :-) |
| 14:33.38 | daxxar | Atleast for use in something similar to empty_world.bzw |
| 14:34.38 | daxxar | Player#getDimensions() == dimensions of the tank? |
| 14:34.40 | brlcad | curious, did robocode support multiple bots in the api? |
| 14:35.02 | daxxar | "float dimensions[3]; // current tank dimensions" |
| 14:35.10 | daxxar | No, I do not believe so |
| 14:36.08 | daxxar | Meh, getHeight() and getWidth() have other meanings in 3d. :-( |
| 14:36.32 | daxxar | getHeight() == getDimensions()[2], but in RoboCode it's == getDimensions()[1] (afaict) |
| 14:36.40 | daxxar | Since they have no height in the three-dimensional sense. :P |
| 14:36.45 | daxxar | Top-down and all |
| 14:37.10 | brlcad | hmm |
| 14:38.10 | daxxar | Player#getForward returns a unit vector in the direction that's "forward"? |
| 14:38.31 | daxxar | Ah, meh. The API isn't documented, but the vars they refer to are, ;-) |
| 14:38.40 | daxxar | forward[3]; // forward unit vector |
| 14:38.49 | brlcad | it's probably okay to deviate on the commands that really beg to be deviated from, and just keeping a simple text file that documents all of them that can be used when converting |
| 14:39.14 | brlcad | yeah, getForward() is easy |
| 14:39.22 | brlcad | what is the dimensions it returns now? |
| 14:39.36 | daxxar | Hm? |
| 14:39.54 | brlcad | in robocode, if you call getDimensions() |
| 14:39.56 | daxxar | So you mean getHeight() == getDimensions()[2], but document that RoboCode getHeight() == getDepth() (or something?) |
| 14:40.02 | daxxar | There's no getDimensions. :-) |
| 14:40.08 | daxxar | getDimensions is from Player |
| 14:40.14 | brlcad | er, then what's the issue? |
| 14:40.22 | brlcad | getHeight() is pretty straightforward to answer |
| 14:40.44 | brlcad | the tanks do have a height, width, length/depth |
| 14:40.46 | daxxar | I was just curious wether I should make getHeight mean the same as in RoboCode, or the same as the "natural" value |
| 14:40.56 | daxxar | Anyway, dinner. Brb. |
| 14:40.57 | daxxar | :-) |
| 14:41.26 | brlcad | hrm, still not following, but okay :) |
| 14:43.17 | brlcad | reading their api docs, "Returns the height of the robot", and is a double -- that relates directly to the height of a tank player, which is 2.08 units by default but can/does change during gameplay |
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| 15:07.56 | daxxar | Back. |
| 15:08.40 | daxxar | brlcad: A RoboCode bot has two dimensions, "height" (which in BZFlag terms is depth/length) and "width" (which in BZFlag terms is width). |
| 15:09.14 | daxxar | brlcad: But height in BZFlag isn't a property that the RoboCode bots have. So I was curious wether getHeight should return what RoboCode expects, or what it really is in BZFlag. |
| 15:09.16 | brlcad | ahh, gotya |
| 15:10.36 | brlcad | that's probably a good case for well-documented deviation |
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| 15:11.02 | brlcad | and adding a getLength or similar for their "height" |
| 15:12.14 | daxxar | Aye |
| 15:12.37 | daxxar | It's not harder than sed -i 's/getHeight/getLength/g' RoboCodeBot.java ;-) |
| 15:15.01 | brlcad | it really will, however, be important to keep a text file of all those sorts of changes in the dir and/or on the wiki for the bot-writers |
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| 15:23.26 | daxxar | brlcad: http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZRobots/RoboCode_Changes |
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| 15:39.11 | DTRemenak | daxxar: fyi, bz can display tank coordinates (can be helpful for getting a grip on the world, or I imagine, following a bot around in obs. mode) - "set showCoordinates 1" in your config file |
| 15:40.10 | daxxar | DTRemenak: Thanks. Btw, how do I switch observer mode? (following, freeflight) |
| 15:40.26 | DTRemenak | F7/F8 iirc |
| 15:40.57 | daxxar | Thanks |
| 15:41.43 | DTRemenak | hmm...probably F6/F7 cycle targets, F8 cycles modes |
| 15:43.48 | daxxar | Hrm, all this copy-pasting that is the protocol implementation makes me think I should've implemented this otherwise. Perhaps I did it a bit overkill. |
| 15:43.55 | daxxar | Oh well, soon working. |
| 15:46.01 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/GPLib/inc/lighting.h: start adding a lighting system |
| 15:46.24 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03daxxar * r14493 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/ (6 files): Implemented GetX, GetY, GetZ, GetHeight, GetWidth, GetLength, GetHeading. |
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| 16:09.08 | brlcad | hrm, no jeff |
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| 16:11.53 | brlcad | and on queue |
| 16:12.18 | brlcad | JeffM: :D |
| 16:12.22 | brlcad | http://opencombat.net/tmp/gp_osx_cg.png |
| 16:12.28 | brlcad | http://opencombat.net/tmp/gp_osx_cg2.png |
| 16:13.25 | JeffM | brlcad, nice |
| 16:16.39 | brlcad | yeah, pretty cool |
| 16:16.45 | brlcad | should be all committed |
| 16:17.28 | brlcad | the second seems to probably be a GL_TEXTURE_2D mode setting or something similar not set .. as that same texture is rendering fine on the menu |
| 16:17.55 | brlcad | similarly, dunno if those buildings should have a texture - the outer wall did have it's texture |
| 16:23.38 | JeffM | everything is textured |
| 16:23.50 | JeffM | but I changed some of the drawable stuff, so that probably busted them |
| 16:23.55 | JeffM | the menu dosn't use drawables |
| 16:23.59 | JeffM | the main engine does |
| 16:24.18 | brlcad | outer wall doesn't use drawables? |
| 16:24.18 | JeffM | I have to convert the main drawing code over to use materials |
| 16:24.23 | JeffM | probably not |
| 16:25.00 | JeffM | since I can draw them all at the same time, they are basicly presorted |
| 16:25.07 | JeffM | drawables are used to minimise state changes. |
| 16:25.25 | brlcad | got it |
| 16:25.41 | JeffM | so the grass, and the walls, I can draw all in one shot, and odds are nothing else uses those |
| 16:26.06 | JeffM | once I finish the lighting system I'll go and take a pass thru the engine |
| 16:26.24 | JeffM | it's object based and that makes baby jesus cry |
| 16:26.31 | brlcad | :) |
| 16:26.50 | JeffM | and the cullling system sucks.. very much big time. |
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| 17:07.30 | eTangenT | hm, apparently there's a syntax error in plugins/newplug.sh |
| 17:07.37 | eTangenT | on line 32, bad substitution |
| 17:08.05 | eTangenT | don't remember when I checked out svn, but I'll look into it |
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| 18:41.57 | spatialguru | hi all |
| 18:43.02 | Winny | going to install some RAM...brb |
| 18:43.11 | spatialguru | fyi - got a basic web map showing tank location from a live game in a web-based map :) |
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| 18:49.28 | TheRedBaron | spatialguru: link? |
| 18:51.18 | spatialguru | sending it private to protect some test machine |
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| 18:54.48 | spatialguru | what's the easiest way to get a 2d image of a game map? |
| 18:55.20 | AAA_awright | Me and tanner are working on that problem right now. It isn't easy. |
| 18:55.45 | spatialguru | ah, interesting, I just need a one time snapshot |
| 18:56.04 | AAA_awright | load bzflag, go to server, press F5 |
| 18:56.20 | AAA_awright | I really don't know. |
| 18:57.20 | AAA_awright | Go into observer, into roaming mode, go very high up, look straight down, then press F9/F10 to zoom in/out |
| 18:57.32 | spatialguru | ha |
| 18:57.47 | spatialguru | i don't even know how to look up/down :) |
| 18:57.53 | eTangenT | spatialguru: I'm working on a php script that will generate a 2D image from a bzw file |
| 18:57.58 | spatialguru | funny how many more controls there are |
| 18:58.05 | AAA_awright | ah, same with Tanner |
| 18:58.08 | spatialguru | eTangenT: ewwww... that'd be perfect for my web app :) |
| 18:58.14 | AAA_awright | shift, crtl, alt + arrows |
| 18:58.39 | AAA_awright | the a key also toggles how you fly |
| 18:58.45 | eTangenT | I was making it for Divi, but I'll share with spat, because spat is cool :P |
| 18:58.55 | spatialguru | :O |
| 18:59.03 | spatialguru | wow -- such high esteem :D |
| 18:59.17 | spatialguru | that's be cool |
| 18:59.37 | blast007 | eTangenT: will it work with mesh objects too? :P |
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| 18:59.51 | blast007 | eTangenT: if not, I already have one that handles 1.10 objects |
| 19:00.06 | eTangenT | blast007: That's the plan |
| 19:00.32 | blast007 | cool |
| 19:00.38 | eTangenT | the hardest objects to do will be meshes, but i think I can manage it |
| 19:00.42 | AAA_awright | eTangenT: Does it compile a .bzw file or does it read the compiled .bwc file? |
| 19:00.52 | spatialguru | can bzfs capture screenshots? |
| 19:00.59 | spatialguru | or is that just too weird of a question? ;) |
| 19:01.09 | eTangenT | AAA_awright: It reads a .bzw file. |
| 19:01.13 | AAA_awright | spatialguru: F5 |
| 19:01.24 | eTangenT | AAA_awright: BZFS |
| 19:01.26 | eTangenT | not bzflag :P |
| 19:01.26 | blast007 | spatialguru: no, bzfs cannot |
| 19:01.43 | AAA_awright | ah |
| 19:01.59 | AAA_awright | No graphics libs are compiled in |
| 19:02.07 | spatialguru | ok |
| 19:02.14 | blast007 | eTangenT: iirc, there was also a thumbnail script as part of the PyBZFlag code |
| 19:02.48 | blast007 | but PyBZFlag was based on 1.7 or 1.10 |
| 19:03.18 | AAA_awright | However, I was working on an idea that uses a modified bzfs server and client so the server feeds the players and world to the client, without showing bzflag as a player, then bzflag takes a snapshot of several interesting locations (bases, etc) every second |
| 19:04.22 | spatialguru | cool... like a command centre |
| 19:05.24 | AAA_awright | Kinda. It is scheduled to be a small part of BZFx's Arena Controllerâ„¢ techmology |
| 19:06.19 | spatialguru | sounds serious ;) |
| 19:06.22 | spatialguru | sounds funded ;) |
| 19:06.41 | spatialguru | thx for the tip - got my screenshot overhead map now |
| 19:06.48 | AAA_awright | (and secret, don't tell a meteorite about what I just said) |
| 19:07.03 | blast007 | AAA_awright: the channel is logged ;) |
| 19:07.24 | blast007 | the secret is out! oh noes! |
| 19:07.26 | AAA_awright | And how many people casually go about browsing the irc logs? |
| 19:07.54 | AAA_awright | *headdesk* |
| 19:08.35 | AAA_awright | I posted this yesterday, give me some feedback: http://labs.redjacket.ws/bzfls/ |
| 19:09.23 | blast007 | uh.. what is the point of having 'add' on there? |
| 19:09.31 | spatialguru | if this channel topic wasn't so long already, i'd suggesting adding a note to let people know this is logged |
| 19:09.43 | CBG | ~logs |
| 19:09.44 | ibot | somebody said logs was http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 19:09.48 | blast007 | and 'register' doesn't actually do anything |
| 19:10.02 | blast007 | 'register' has no ties to global login |
| 19:10.05 | AAA_awright | no, it doesn't. Wait, you meant on the list server. |
| 19:10.18 | blast007 | and 'add' will not work from there |
| 19:10.24 | blast007 | the IP will not match |
| 19:10.24 | TheRedBaron | spatialguru: ibot logs, and I'd wager at least 75% of the people here do also |
| 19:10.32 | eTangenT | I do. |
| 19:10.36 | CBG | probably more than 75% |
| 19:10.40 | blast007 | AAA_awright: so congratulations, you've made a useless script |
| 19:10.43 | AAA_awright | Note my own list server on the list |
| 19:10.50 | blast007 | right |
| 19:10.52 | spatialguru | i just mean that logs are posted publicly, that's all |
| 19:10.54 | blast007 | still useless |
| 19:11.01 | AAA_awright | ... thanks for that |
| 19:11.17 | blast007 | is that a new web interface for the list? |
| 19:11.19 | CBG | what is the purpose of the "register" bit? |
| 19:11.21 | blast007 | or just a 3rd part page? |
| 19:11.23 | blast007 | party* |
| 19:11.34 | TheRedBaron | spatialguru: depends on how you look at it. ibot is TimRiker's bot, and Tim posts the logs on his site. I could do the same with my logs. Posting them on my own website |
| 19:11.47 | blast007 | CBG: the list server has a 'register' action |
| 19:11.56 | CBG | o.O |
| 19:11.57 | blast007 | it was never fully implemented, and doesn't truely have any function at this time |
| 19:12.12 | blast007 | that was from before we integrated phpBB |
| 19:12.24 | CBG | weel, seems to me like confused users could put their details in there without knowing what it's gonna do |
| 19:12.55 | Erroneous | blast007: hmm...I thought register had been hooked up to phpbb? |
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| 19:13.12 | jude- | hello all |
| 19:13.21 | blast007 | Erroneous: not afaik |
| 19:14.28 | blast007 | it uses the table 'players' |
| 19:14.32 | blast007 | not 'phpbb_users' |
| 19:15.13 | blast007 | AAA_awright: mainly, the current web interface is designed to be simple |
| 19:15.39 | AAA_awright | Mine, elegant |
| 19:15.47 | blast007 | AJAX would make it not work on a great number of browsers (e.g. browsers that can be run via SSH on a server) |
| 19:16.24 | blast007 | however, if there was a fallback to standard forms and complete refreshes, it would have a use |
| 19:16.27 | AAA_awright | Thus it (will) fall back to a form. |
| 19:16.42 | blast007 | you might want to look at the Behavior library |
| 19:17.18 | Winny | Is there a list of /localset variables anywhere? |
| 19:17.30 | blast007 | Winny: probably not |
| 19:17.36 | AAA_awright | Winny: the bzflag config |
| 19:17.36 | Erroneous | Winny: config file |
| 19:18.05 | Winny | kk, thanks |
| 19:20.19 | spatialguru | heh my autopilot tank got stuck |
| 19:20.30 | spatialguru | between two pyramids |
| 19:20.51 | TheRedBaron | otto isn't very smart |
| 19:23.31 | Winny | It was styled after blast007's playing ;) |
| 19:24.04 | blast007 | hah |
| 19:29.23 | Erroneous | TheRedBaron: otto? |
| 19:30.30 | Erroneous | TheRedBaron: perhaps you're getting the characters confused...'tis roger ;) |
| 19:33.27 | Erroneous | as in, Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor? |
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| 19:34.06 | Tedius | check the clearance clarence |
| 19:34.34 | Tedius | is it possible that someone could boost their lag as soon as they become the rabbit? |
| 19:34.56 | TheRedBaron | using the fabled uiuiui exploit? |
| 19:35.08 | Erroneous | hehe |
| 19:35.32 | Tedius | ~uiuiui exploit |
| 19:37.13 | daxxar | Yay, time to complete survey. |
| 19:38.54 | daxxar | brlcad: Should I respond to the survey counting amcnabb as my mentor? |
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| 19:41.21 | OmaHerta | uiuiui |
| 19:41.37 | TheRedBaron | imposter! |
| 19:41.56 | Chestal | aw :-( |
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| 19:42.22 | Chestal | TheRedBaron: how did you know? ;-) |
| 19:43.01 | TheRedBaron | Chestal: random guess ;) |
| 19:43.19 | Erroneous | whoa, flashback |
| 19:44.00 | Tedius | TheRedBaron: does uiuiui only work on earlier releases? |
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| 19:47.46 | Chestal | more flashback: http://web.archive.org/web/20010202132800/http://www.bzflag.de/ |
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| 19:48.02 | TheRedBaron | Chestal: wow |
| 19:50.14 | TheRedBaron | Chestal: awww, you used to be able to read the old boards here - http://ezboard.com/ |
| 19:50.35 | scott | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:13.36 | donny_baker | well that didn't work the way I want... |
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| 20:37.32 | spatialguru | anyone want to test my web map? |
| 20:37.37 | Winny | kk |
| 20:37.50 | spatialguru | sending you url privately |
| 20:39.22 | daxxar | Your what? |
| 20:39.52 | daxxar | Hm, brlcad is org admin on gsoc, right? |
| 20:46.17 | spatialguru | hi daxxar i've got a web map showing my tank driving around :) |
| 20:48.34 | CBG | spatialguru: ooh, sounds interesting :o |
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| 20:48.54 | spatialguru | just started CBG , nothing too cool yet :) |
| 20:49.04 | CBG | spatialguru: can I test? :) |
| 20:49.17 | AAA_awright | Comments for the next version, now with tank counts. http://labs.redjacket.ws/bzfls/ |
| 20:49.22 | ts_laptop | donny_baker: ping |
| 20:49.37 | AAA_awright | spatialguru: May I see? |
| 20:49.46 | spatialguru | heh, last one :) |
| 20:49.51 | donny_baker | ts_laptop: pong |
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| 20:50.40 | ts_laptop | donny_baker: I did something wrong to box in wiki |
| 20:51.01 | ts_laptop | The image does now look greyish...why? |
| 20:51.12 | spatialguru | having trouble showing the bzflag map image in my web map, but it will come soon :) |
| 20:52.14 | donny_baker | looks fine to me.. are you talking about the image in the upper right |
| 20:52.25 | AAA_awright | I just display the entire map. http://labs.redjacket.ws/positions.php |
| 20:52.50 | ts_laptop | donny_baker: I talk about the meshbox image in Box article..the thumb at right side |
| 20:53.44 | ts_laptop | donny_baker: If I click on the image it gets the colour back in the bigger version |
| 20:53.58 | spatialguru | AAA_awright: what is that for? |
| 20:54.01 | Constitution | AAA_awright: cool! |
| 20:54.04 | donny_baker | ts_laptop: ok, i see what you are talking about, give me a minute or two to look at it |
| 20:54.33 | ts_laptop | Cool, I'm not halluzinating :D |
| 20:54.46 | AAA_awright | Constitution: my list server or position tracker? |
| 20:54.57 | Constitution | AAA_awright: position tracker |
| 20:55.09 | Constitution | wonder how hard it would be to make something like that live |
| 20:55.19 | Constitution | using AJAX and stuff |
| 20:55.26 | AAA_awright | :) If I turn on the bot, you will start to see the dots move and stuff |
| 20:55.29 | AAA_awright | keep watching |
| 20:55.37 | Constitution | watching |
| 20:56.09 | AAA_awright | hold on |
| 20:56.26 | AAA_awright | what server? |
| 20:56.28 | Winny | this would be an AWESOME way to watch GU-league matchs... |
| 20:56.34 | AAA_awright | me tries borrego.hepcat.org:5154 |
| 20:56.43 | ts_laptop | ~seen trepan |
| 20:57.05 | ibot | trepan <n=trepan@unaffiliated/trepan> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 26d 18h 11m 11s ago, saying: ''man strlen''. |
| 20:57.06 | Winny | just pop a hix radar in the BG and volia |
| 20:57.06 | spatialguru | Okay, anyone still testing my app... I've just made a big change |
| 20:57.06 | spatialguru | heh - you should see a bzflag map now |
| 20:57.06 | donny_baker | ts_laptop: it is a horrible resize routine for .png files... if i take out the 'thumb|400px' it renders nice |
| 20:57.09 | AAA_awright | Its running |
| 20:57.15 | donny_baker | doesn'y appear to affect '.jpg' |
| 20:57.34 | spatialguru | winny: the 'pink' image should be gone :) |
| 20:57.38 | donny_baker | s/doesn'y/doesn't/ |
| 20:57.40 | Winny | indeed it is |
| 20:57.57 | spatialguru | Winny: tank moving? |
| 20:58.08 | Winny | no tank now |
| 20:58.09 | Constitution | ah, sweet |
| 20:58.13 | donny_baker | ts_laptop: going to look and see if there is a solution |
| 20:58.24 | ts_laptop | donny_baker: Hrm, ok...so I should create a new picture showing boxes (instead of a meshboxes) |
| 20:58.27 | Winny | AAA_awright: nice |
| 20:58.42 | AAA_awright | ts_laptop: you can also /msg SeenServ seen trepan |
| 20:59.00 | Winny | spatialguru: I don;t see a tank right now... |
| 20:59.24 | spatialguru | oh well, can't win today ;) |
| 20:59.26 | ts_laptop | AAA_awright: I'm looking for when he came in here...I think I found a bug with the mesh renderer again |
| 20:59.27 | AAA_awright | hah, greens just capped on hepcat |
| 21:00.02 | AAA_awright | from(SeenServ)I last saw trepan (n=trepan@unaffiliated/trepan) 8h 47m 37s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) |
| 21:00.11 | Winny | this makes me wanna work on my server previewer thing... from VB :p |
| 21:00.18 | spatialguru | there, refresh now ;) |
| 21:00.20 | spatialguru | should be done :D |
| 21:00.35 | Winny | aha |
| 21:00.37 | Winny | I see a tank |
| 21:00.45 | Winny | but its sitting still |
| 21:00.56 | spatialguru | try reload again, sorr y:) |
| 21:01.01 | spatialguru | one last "localhost" to get rid of :D |
| 21:01.17 | Winny | aha |
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| 21:01.49 | spatialguru | winny: heh - autopilot got stuck in corner :) |
| 21:02.00 | spatialguru | it really wasn't moving |
| 21:02.20 | Winny | coolio :D |
| 21:02.52 | AAA_awright | I don't see the tank moving |
| 21:02.57 | donny_baker | ts_laptop: looks like we may need to load ImageMagik to the wikibox (if brlcad is ok with it) |
| 21:02.57 | spatialguru | be sure to reload |
| 21:03.04 | spatialguru | AAA_awright: i had lots of errors to fix ;) |
| 21:03.16 | donny_baker | ts_laptop: mediwiki will use that for resizes if it is available |
| 21:03.18 | Winny | hey jude- |
| 21:03.20 | AAA_awright | ah, nvm |
| 21:03.48 | donny_baker | then the images should be fine, if I am reading this correctly |
| 21:03.54 | AAA_awright | Pretty neat. |
| 21:04.00 | spatialguru | now to try to get coordinates correct |
| 21:04.16 | spatialguru | stopping update |
| 21:04.58 | AAA_awright | You should stop by #bzstocks, that's where we work on web browser stuff for bzflag |
| 21:05.39 | AAA_awright | Is the base layer supposed to dissappear when you zoom in then out? Or out then in? |
| 21:08.18 | spatialguru | no it's not supposed to |
| 21:08.27 | spatialguru | but i've got a pretty lame little set up right now |
| 21:10.39 | ts_laptop | donny_baker: Well, we need a picture of a true box for the wiki anyway...could we just forbid png's? |
| 21:12.03 | CBG | png > * |
| 21:12.18 | ts_laptop | but ImageMagik feels like the better solution.. |
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| 21:22.43 | ts_laptop | donny_baker: Let's wait on what brlcad says :) |
| 21:31.50 | Winny | moo |
| 21:31.58 | CBG | oink |
| 21:32.17 | Winny | grr |
| 21:35.56 | AAA_awright | someone try out the "filter" feature for me: http://labs.redjacket.ws/bzfls/ |
| 21:37.38 | TheRedBaron | seems to work |
| 21:37.46 | AAA_awright | Any filters I should add? |
| 21:37.51 | AAA_awright | If tanks are playing? |
| 21:38.14 | daxxar | Empty servers, full servers is typical stuff? |
| 21:38.39 | daxxar | Anyway, heading to bed. |
| 21:39.53 | SportChick | brlcad: ping |
| 21:40.03 | daxxar | SportChick: He's been AFK for some hours, it seems |
| 21:40.05 | daxxar | ~seen brlcad |
| 21:40.24 | ibot | brlcad is currently on #bzflag #brlcad. Has said a total of 65 messages. Is idling for 5h 13m 53s, last said: ':)'. |
| 21:40.25 | SportChick | k, sent pm instead |
| 21:40.27 | daxxar | Me too ;-) |
| 21:40.29 | SportChick | thanks |
| 21:40.37 | daxxar | 'tis a pleasure. Good night. :-) |
| 21:41.05 | spatialguru | does wiki use same user/pass as forums? |
| 21:41.41 | ts_laptop | I do not think so |
| 21:41.42 | TheRedBaron | AAA_awright: doesn't work in IE 64-bit |
| 21:42.08 | AAA_awright | 6 or 7? |
| 21:42.12 | TheRedBaron | 7 |
| 21:42.16 | AAA_awright | HM. |
| 21:42.38 | AAA_awright | Any errors? |
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| 21:43.31 | AAA_awright | "Unknown runtime error". |
| 21:43.45 | AAA_awright | Thanks for the help, IE 7. |
| 21:43.46 | Winny | helpful |
| 21:43.51 | Winny | bah, beat me |
| 21:44.25 | TheRedBaron | AAA_awright: line 139 |
| 21:44.38 | Winny | AWOSLappy: hmmm? |
| 21:44.57 | AAA_awright | contents of line 139: |
| 21:44.59 | AAA_awright | } |
| 21:45.38 | AWOSLappy | Winny: "bah, beat me" Me: "beats Winny" |
| 21:46.13 | AWOSLappy | lol @ } |
| 21:46.29 | Winny | .... |
| 21:46.56 | AWOSLappy | ...? |
| 21:47.46 | AAA_awright | ~bash Winny |
| 21:47.46 | ibot | ACTION beats Winny with ksh |
| 21:47.50 | AWOSLappy | lol |
| 21:48.07 | AAA_awright | ~bash AWOSLappy |
| 21:48.08 | ibot | ACTION beats AWOSLappy with ksh |
| 21:48.13 | AAA_awright | ... |
| 21:48.26 | jude-|AFK | ~ssh Winny |
| 21:48.27 | AAA_awright | ~joke |
| 21:48.28 | ibot | What's a chicken coupe with 4 doors - a Chicken Sedan! |
| 21:48.47 | Winny | ... |
| 21:48.56 | AAA_awright | ~differentjoke |
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| 21:49.17 | AAA_awright | ~newjoke |
| 21:49.40 | AAA_awright | ~bask ibot |
| 21:49.47 | AAA_awright | ~bash ibot |
| 21:49.48 | ibot | ACTION beats ibot with ksh |
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| 21:49.56 | AAA_awright | ~oldjoke |
| 21:50.03 | Erroneous | wow, that was korny |
| 21:50.15 | AAA_awright | heh |
| 21:50.21 | AAA_awright | ~typo |
| 21:50.22 | ibot | from memory, typo is when someone tries to type really fast without knowing what he is actually doing.... so he makes typing mistakes, or rm -rf / |
| 21:51.00 | Winny | ~a_meteorite |
| 21:51.01 | ibot | a_meteorite does many cool things, including maintaining BZFX and haunting the BZBB. He also does C++ and PHP on the side. |
| 21:51.06 | Winny | ... |
| 21:51.18 | Epyon | ~Epyon |
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| 21:51.24 | a_meteorite | hi? |
| 21:51.53 | jude-|AFK | hello |
| 21:52.35 | AAA_awright | ~AAA_awright |
| 21:52.36 | ibot | from memory, aaa_awright is a PHP Wizard |
| 21:52.40 | AAA_awright | :) |
| 21:54.21 | a_meteorite | *PHP hacker |
| 21:54.30 | a_meteorite | he's scary sometimes |
| 21:54.58 | a_meteorite | you know, making PHP segfault, implementing a bare bones bzfs server in PHP |
| 21:55.12 | quine | :o |
| 21:55.13 | AAA_awright | :) |
| 21:55.21 | AAA_awright | Yah. |
| 21:55.45 | quine | haha, i think i segfaulted php by accident once :\ |
| 21:56.10 | a_meteorite | AAA_awright: iirc, you were using some tricky php5 object stuff that got it to segfault? |
| 21:56.24 | AAA_awright | No, socket connections |
| 21:56.27 | a_meteorite | ooh |
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| 22:19.36 | AWOSLappy | ~AWOSLappy |
| 22:19.41 | AWOSLappy | ~awilcox |
| 22:19.42 | ibot | awilcox is, like, channel op and project maintainer of #AWOS |
| 22:19.52 | AWOSLappy | :) |
| 22:26.32 | Erroneous | Epyon: how goes the grand adventure? :) |
| 22:27.09 | Epyon | 200 km/h... |
| 22:27.14 | Epyon | ... on the wrong lane xP |
| 22:27.20 | Erroneous | woohoo |
| 22:27.36 | Epyon | At least it feels so o.O |
| 22:29.14 | Erroneous | if you have questions or something, always feel free to ask :) |
| 22:29.26 | Epyon | I should be ready with a gridbased city generator without subdivisional buildings for the 12th. |
| 22:29.34 | Epyon | Maybe including some bonuses. |
| 22:30.02 | Epyon | Yes, I know. But the nature of my work is that I don't have many people that can help me with my problems :/ |
| 22:31.20 | Epyon | Ideally I'd like to ask a few questions to Paul Mueller or the .theprodukkt crew xP |
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| 22:46.15 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: do you have your own channel? you need one |
| 22:46.26 | AWOSLappy | the ##erroneous channel! |
| 22:47.09 | Erroneous | just what I need, a bigger ego...no thx |
| 22:47.14 | AWOSLappy | * Topic is 'C#, graphics, input, SDL help. If he feels like it.' |
| 22:48.19 | AWOSLappy | true...but JeffM made it clear that nobody should ask questions about general dev on #bzflag |
| 22:49.33 | Erroneous | Epyon: you might be surprised, they might love to give you a hand :) |
| 22:50.13 | Erroneous | AWOSLappy: you'll notice that I don't hang out in any "general dev" channels |
| 22:50.41 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: I know :/ |
| 22:51.03 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: I have so many questions that you could prolly answer |
| 22:51.38 | JeffM | depends what's going on :) |
| 22:51.38 | JeffM | if it gets deep and heavy then taking it private is better |
| 22:51.41 | JeffM | if it's tech support for stuff like OSs, private is better. |
| 22:51.45 | JeffM | if its' slow and general development stuff, and dosn't get too involved, then sure, others may be interested |
| 22:51.49 | JeffM | it shold not get in the way of "real" bzflag "work" or somone asking for help tho |
| 22:51.51 | JeffM | but that's just my opinon |
| 22:51.54 | Erroneous | Epyon: and while I'm certainly looking forward to whatever you'll have ready, I'd encourage you to check stuff in to svn sooner rather than later...history is a wonderful thing :) |
| 22:51.56 | AWOSLappy | effM: ah. |
| 22:52.46 | Epyon | ok I'll try :P |
| 22:52.51 | AWOSLappy | Epyon: What Erroneous said. my projects sometimes get committed more than once per day. that way you can 'roll back' if you make a mistake, or just gawk at your old naive code in 10 years :P |
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| 22:53.31 | JeffM | AWOSLappy, if it can be related to game dev, even better :) |
| 22:53.42 | AWOSLappy | JeffM: exactly. I have SDL questions |
| 22:53.45 | Epyon | I use a custom made versioning system on my own PC, so I have the benefits. |
| 22:53.58 | AWOSLappy | Meh. I use either VSS or SVN |
| 22:54.06 | Epyon | Yet I don't think what I've done is commit worthy |
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| 22:55.55 | CBG | kubrick's a little grumpy today. |
| 22:55.55 | JeffM | AWOSLappy, then if they dont' get in the way of other stuff, or flood the channel, ask |
| 22:55.55 | JeffM | or heck ##essy is even a BETTER place to ask :) |
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| 22:56.49 | AWOSLappy | JeffM: hehe |
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| 22:57.21 | AWOSLappy | Erroneous: Hrm. You're on two servers at once! |
| 22:57.22 | AWOSLappy | JeffM: hehe |
| 22:57.32 | JeffM | fun |
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| 23:19.29 | The_Vaxorcist | Hmm, I'm still having trouble cross compiling bzflag |
| 23:19.58 | The_Vaxorcist | it's adding "-I/usr/include" to CPPFLAGS, so some headers are conflicting |
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| 23:43.27 | Winny | some |
| 23:43.29 | Winny | one |
| 23:43.33 | Winny | KILL chickenfingers |
| 23:43.48 | Winny | my IQ goes down every time I read one of his posts |
| 23:45.01 | Winny | It is actually sucked awat by my web browser and put into another dimension |
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| 23:54.56 | spatialguru | does default bzfs create a random map? |
| 23:56.50 | delusional | it does |
| 23:57.11 | spatialguru | thx |
| 23:58.24 | delusional | add -c and it will create 4 bases |
