| 00:01.37 | tannerld | I can't get BZFlag 2.1.13, Build 2007-06-20 to build |
| 00:07.42 | nn-gentoo | how do i stick a texture on a box? |
| 00:08.12 | delusional | with a texture matrix |
| 00:08.21 | nn-gentoo | ? |
| 00:08.25 | delusional | has to be a meshbox,not a box |
| 00:09.12 | delusional | this seems like a perfect time to advertise our new IRC channel, ##bzw, could you join it, nn-gentoo |
| 00:09.56 | nn-gentoo | um this is weard i ment stick a image texture on a box |
| 00:11.01 | delusional | look at the bzw manpage, you'll see a definition of a texture matrix |
| 00:11.53 | nn-gentoo | delusional, i have been using that as a refrence then got stuck and decided to ask here |
| 00:12.25 | delusional | ah yes, the manpage is messed up in the material reference |
| 00:12.59 | delusional | check this link, it's the OLD manpage http://cbg.bzflag.org/images/A-Delusion/manpages_old/ |
| 00:13.15 | delusional | and not messed up in the material |
| 00:15.09 | delusional | ah, I can send you a copy, i suppose. |
| 00:15.30 | nn-gentoo | cbg gave me the corect thing |
| 00:15.45 | delusional | ok |
| 00:16.15 | delusional | heres the new bzw page, fixed http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/564215 |
| 00:16.20 | Erroneous | tannerld: what platform, what error? |
| 00:16.28 | nn-gentoo | ? got error |
| 00:16.31 | nn-gentoo | /home/nn-gentoo/pillbox-random-objects: warning (line 7292): unknown object parameter "addtexture" - skipping |
| 00:16.32 | CBG | I always use the wiki now, the manpage has nothing the wiki doesn't and it's broke... |
| 00:16.39 | CBG | wiki has everything and it works. :) |
| 00:16.43 | tannerld | Erroneous: Ubuntu, I don't see any errors |
| 00:17.01 | tannerld | Erroneous: it does a lot of "Entering/Leaving diretory x" and then says "Done" |
| 00:17.08 | Erroneous | then it's working fine |
| 00:17.14 | Erroneous | what makes you think it's not working? |
| 00:18.10 | nn-gentoo | oups my falt |
| 00:18.28 | tannerld | heh - thought it would compile something :\ guess not. thanks thought :) |
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| 00:26.24 | nn-gentoo | its not aplying the texture what is happening |
| 00:32.14 | jzaun | YAY!!! |
| 00:32.31 | jzaun | ok, so I can compile the 2.0 SVN branch |
| 00:32.37 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:32.39 | jzaun | src/bzflag/bzflag -directory data/ works |
| 00:33.14 | jzaun | now... how to make a OS X package/application "thing" out of this? |
| 00:33.27 | JeffM | that's the part xcode does |
| 00:33.28 | blast007 | xcode does that afaik |
| 00:33.47 | JeffM | tho you CAN just take an existing .app and throw in the bins and the data |
| 00:33.49 | JeffM | replacing what is there |
| 00:33.57 | delusional | nngentoo, go back to ##bzw please |
| 00:34.18 | JeffM | a .app is just a folder |
| 00:34.20 | jzaun | JeffM: is there a command line way to may the package? |
| 00:34.24 | JeffM | no |
| 00:34.28 | JeffM | cus it's not a binary thing |
| 00:34.29 | JeffM | it's a folder |
| 00:34.35 | JeffM | right click it and you can open it |
| 00:34.50 | JeffM | it ain't like a debian package or anything |
| 00:34.57 | jzaun | so there is no command line utility, just xcode.. |
| 00:35.03 | JeffM | or by hand |
| 00:35.08 | jzaun | ok |
| 00:35.25 | JeffM | the process to make the downloadable mac version is by no means highly automated like linux builds are ;) |
| 00:35.41 | JeffM | we do a step even AFTER making the .app |
| 00:35.51 | jzaun | what? |
| 00:35.53 | JeffM | we pack it into a compressed disk image |
| 00:36.06 | jzaun | heh :-) |
| 00:36.09 | JeffM | what you download from SF is not just a .app, but a DMG |
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| 00:36.39 | JeffM | what is your goal? to make one you can just use? or replicate what we have on SF? |
| 00:36.55 | jzaun | replicate what is on SF |
| 00:37.04 | JeffM | don't |
| 00:37.10 | JeffM | most of that is done manualy by brlcad |
| 00:37.22 | JeffM | it's not comparable to what we do for nix packages |
| 00:37.26 | delusional | umm.. doesnt "make install" make an application? does for me, |
| 00:37.47 | JeffM | maybe he set that up to build the .app |
| 00:37.51 | JeffM | but SF has more then the .app |
| 00:38.22 | JeffM | as far as I knew make install just copied it to the usr/bin fir |
| 00:38.24 | JeffM | dor |
| 00:38.28 | JeffM | dir even :) |
| 00:38.59 | JeffM | is the dmg background image even in the source tree? |
| 00:39.08 | JeffM | the layout isn't IIRC |
| 00:40.06 | jzaun | I'm just learning the process :-) I like to learn things |
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| 00:43.01 | JeffM | well the process isn't documented, and mostly is in one person's head ;) |
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| 00:43.26 | jzaun | JeffM: not that thats a bad thing but thats a "Bad Thing" I would think... |
| 00:43.40 | tannerld | JeffM: all hail wikis :P |
| 00:43.41 | JeffM | bad for a real project |
| 00:43.42 | JeffM | sure |
| 00:43.47 | JeffM | bzflag is not a real project |
| 00:43.56 | JeffM | it's allways been seat of the pants dev ;) |
| 00:44.07 | tannerld | eheh |
| 00:44.15 | jzaun | JeffM: I suppose :-) |
| 00:44.28 | JeffM | heck I think that the 2.0.8 bins required the use of a mac with OS 10.2 |
| 00:44.49 | JeffM | and you have to manualy tweak your libs so it dosn't link with X |
| 00:45.18 | jzaun | I run the binary package on 10.4 |
| 00:45.32 | JeffM | yeah, that'd break it for older OSs |
| 00:45.38 | JeffM | your probalby linked to X too |
| 00:45.48 | jzaun | I have no X installed that I know of |
| 00:46.01 | JeffM | IIRC dev environment installs its libs |
| 00:46.12 | JeffM | behind the seceens and all |
| 00:46.14 | jzaun | checking for X... no |
| 00:46.26 | JeffM | there are also issues with using the right libCURL |
| 00:46.37 | JeffM | basicly it's a huge mess |
| 00:46.53 | JeffM | brlcad was suposed to check in scripts to do more of it for 2.1 I'm not sure if he did |
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| 00:50.41 | Winny | ~lart ducatiwannabe |
| 00:50.41 | ibot | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps ducatiwannabe |
| 00:51.13 | jude- | Winny: I suppose it's better than "ducatigroupie" :) |
| 00:51.29 | Winny | ehe |
| 00:51.36 | Winny | you have no idea what his name means :p |
| 00:51.39 | JeffM | jzaun, you'll also need to strip your exe |
| 00:51.44 | JeffM | so it's not masive |
| 00:51.48 | jude- | someone who wants to be a member of ducati league? |
| 00:51.57 | Winny | ah, so you do know of leagues |
| 00:52.00 | jude- | yes |
| 00:52.05 | tannerld | pwned |
| 00:52.10 | blast007 | ;D |
| 00:52.16 | tannerld | ~jude-++ |
| 00:52.24 | jude- | vaguely, at least :P |
| 00:52.27 | Winny | ~blast007++ |
| 00:52.33 | jude- | ~tannerld++ |
| 00:52.40 | tannerld | yay |
| 00:52.46 | jude- | ~karma tannerld |
| 00:52.46 | ibot | tannerld has karma of 12 |
| 00:52.49 | brad | ~bzflag++ |
| 00:52.54 | jude- | ~karma bzflag |
| 00:52.54 | ibot | bzflag has karma of 3 |
| 00:52.57 | jude- | O.o |
| 00:53.03 | blast007 | I get karma for a smilie? |
| 00:53.05 | tannerld | ~bzflag++ |
| 00:53.17 | tannerld | blast007: amazing what a little happiness can do to a person |
| 00:53.21 | blast007 | heh |
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| 01:02.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r14366 10/trunk/db/bzfls2/bzfls.php: Add validate_callsign() |
| 01:26.58 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (n=bryjen@2002:4cb1:b40f:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 01:26.59 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v bryjen] by ChanServ |
| 01:30.27 | jzaun | is there anyway to figure out what the datadir is for a compiled bzflag? |
| 01:35.58 | delusional | press control key and click on the application, choose "show contents" |
| 01:36.26 | delusional | i think that's what you mean. |
| 01:37.12 | jzaun | nah... |
| 01:37.24 | TD-Linux | /usr/share/bzflag/data |
| 01:37.30 | jzaun | when it was ./configured what was the value of --datadir |
| 01:37.58 | jzaun | TD-Linux: thats the default, but not for the executable I'm loking at |
| 01:39.03 | jzaun | guess I just need to get ahold of brlcad |
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| 02:06.55 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r14367 10/trunk/db/bzfls2/bzfls.php: s/validate/valid/ for validation functions, add input checks for registration, add valid_email, add valid_password |
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| 02:24.28 | delusional | banned the same cheater 3 times today, three different cheats, three different IP's 200.120.106.25, ... finally range banned his IP, from chile. 200.120.*.* |
| 02:26.50 | brad | callsign? |
| 02:27.07 | *** join/#bzflag Pumpernickle (n=pumperni@CPE0016b6c9fba4-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:27.17 | delusional | I'm getting logs now, used different ones |
| 02:35.30 | delusional | names... wallwalke (no R).. qwertqeruy .... dios (first ban) ... YOU_CANT_KILL_ME! (second) .. LALALALAL thats it from this log |
| 02:38.49 | Macrosoft | is there a log file of player chat from the game? |
| 02:39.05 | delusional | we log everything at mofo |
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| 02:39.34 | Macrosoft | do non-modded servers log chats? |
| 02:39.59 | brad | ya.. |
| 02:40.14 | Macrosoft | where would this log be? |
| 02:40.14 | brad | just needs one -d for chat |
| 02:40.21 | blast007 | Macrosoft: whereever you put it :P |
| 02:40.33 | blast007 | it's not automatic |
| 02:40.41 | blast007 | you have to redirect output to a file |
| 02:40.50 | tannerld | since we're on the topic of logs, can I save a chat from the client somehow/ |
| 02:41.00 | blast007 | tannerld: yup |
| 02:41.51 | blast007 | there is -echo and -echoAnsi for the client |
| 02:42.11 | blast007 | -echoAnsi includes ANSI color codes |
| 02:42.17 | blast007 | normally you'd just use -echo |
| 02:43.16 | delusional | add this to server startup, to save logs in a seperate file.. at least on debian. | tee -a log.log |
| 02:43.37 | blast007 | assuming you have tee installed |
| 02:43.38 | delusional | will create a new file log.log in text format |
| 02:43.38 | tannerld | blast007: ahh, a command line, I should add that to my shorcut :P |
| 02:43.54 | blast007 | tannerld: there's even a client-side swear list apparently |
| 02:46.23 | tannerld | heh cool |
| 02:46.48 | blast007 | hmm, if only bzflag bans supported wildcard masks and/or CIDR's ;) |
| 02:47.14 | delusional | get to work, blast007 |
| 02:47.18 | blast007 | hehe |
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| 02:54.37 | TD-Linux | I've seen qwertqeruy |
| 02:55.01 | TD-Linux | someone thought he was acting funny, but he left before I could observe. |
| 02:59.57 | brlcad | JeffM: hm, that's an 'unfortunate' set of instructions to stickie |
| 03:01.02 | delusional | That IP doesnt show in any earlier logs, must be a newbie |
| 03:01.19 | delusional | 200.120 |
| 03:01.39 | brlcad | no offense to your efforts delusional :) |
| 03:03.45 | brlcad | I suppose the confusion predominantly comes from the fact that folks are trying to run the xcode project from a source checkout instead of from the source distribution (there is a (significant) difference) |
| 03:04.34 | JeffM | make new ones, and I'll sticky those instead ;) |
| 03:04.41 | brlcad | from checkout, it's a matter of 1) installing sdl, 2) running ./autogen.sh, then 3) compile with xcode or ./configure ; make |
| 03:05.01 | JeffM | brlcad, well most users want the "new" stuff. if it's from a tarball, they just use the bin |
| 03:05.04 | brlcad | i'm changing the xcode project to make the kiddies happy |
| 03:05.58 | brlcad | JeffM: I know -- the difference is starting from checkout versus from a "make dist" source tarball that someone (usually we) posts |
| 03:06.02 | JeffM | mac users love the click, that's why they got the mac ;) |
| 03:06.07 | delusional | I only suggested the tarball to test the validity of their build environment after installing SDL, my post has waht you suggest for 2.1 compile |
| 03:06.50 | brlcad | they've already "crossed the line" by checking out sources .. no click there and the readme is quite adament about that |
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| 03:14.47 | delusional | personally, i can wait for 2.2. But I'm going to get some SVN capability soon, i'm really interested in jude's work. |
| 03:14.55 | jude- | aww thanks :) |
| 03:15.17 | delusional | very nice that you're already starting the gui |
| 03:15.56 | jude- | heh--nothing useful is in place yet :) |
| 03:16.15 | tannerld | ~jude-++ |
| 03:16.21 | delusional | let me know when a good time occurs |
| 03:16.26 | jude- | will do |
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| 03:25.11 | tannerld | blast007: ooo -echoAnsi is purty |
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| 03:35.22 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14368 10/trunk/bzflag/README.MacOSX: update the mac compilation instructions with more detail on building bzflag, both via terminal and via xcode, and the expectations for those that try. |
| 03:39.56 | a_temp_dist | "expectations" ? |
| 03:54.35 | brlcad | yes, there are expectations if folks are building from a checkout |
| 03:55.29 | a_temp_dist | pretty funny, thx |
| 03:55.43 | brlcad | lots of folks that build (or at least try to build) from a checkout really should not be |
| 03:55.56 | delusional | basicly says "leave me alone!" |
| 03:56.41 | brlcad | no, it doesn't -- it just says that you really need to have a basic understanding of compilation to be compiling |
| 03:56.59 | a_temp_dist | understood |
| 03:57.05 | delusional | wha? |
| 03:57.06 | brlcad | and simply to not _expect_ to be helped if things aren't working for them |
| 03:57.58 | brlcad | folks may, but in general there are LOTS of folks that build from svn simply because "I want the latest!!!" .. without the foundation to do so without requiring a lot of support |
| 03:58.25 | brlcad | that support slows down development, and historically gets excessive particularly the closer we get to a release |
| 03:58.34 | tannerld | SportChick: O.o |
| 03:59.07 | jude- | SportChick: what'd I do? |
| 03:59.32 | jude- | ~sushi brlcad |
| 03:59.33 | ibot | ACTION fishes madly all day long & brings the very best back, filets it carefully and serves brlcad the best, freshest sushi ever |
| 04:00.27 | Thumper_ | SportChick: not fast enough... use a Blackbird |
| 04:01.26 | WinnyAFK | or superman :o |
| 04:01.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14369 10/trunk/bzflag/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 04:01.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: upgrade the xcode project to the latest xcode bundle format, fix the compilation |
| 04:01.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: script so that it should now work from a checkout (which was never originally |
| 04:01.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: intended -- originally only intended for make dist source distributions), and |
| 04:01.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: include bzrobots in the app bundle |
| 04:02.54 | delusional | send superman around the world backwards, faster than the speed of light, so brlcad gets the sushi yesterday, and lois lane is saved roo. |
| 04:03.10 | brlcad | the concord was decommissioned :( |
| 04:04.10 | brlcad | that xcode project should (hopefully) work better straight-up if the SDL framework is installed |
| 04:04.19 | tannerld | brlcad: you forgot about the delorean :P |
| 04:04.36 | brlcad | 1.21 gigawatts?! |
| 04:05.03 | tannerld | great scott! |
| 04:05.25 | poolio | fscking flux capacitor. |
| 04:06.15 | tannerld | ~jude-++ |
| 04:06.27 | poolio | ~++jude |
| 04:06.30 | poolio | have to be more efficient. |
| 04:06.32 | WinnyAFK | jude-, stop being creative and go program :p |
| 04:06.47 | WinnyAFK | IRC is a production killer |
| 04:06.49 | tannerld | Macrosoft: nahh, thats too easy |
| 04:06.59 | WinnyAFK | no wonder bzflag development is slow ;) |
| 04:07.04 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:07.10 | jude- | WinnyAFK: I have to be on IRC while developing--it's a requirement |
| 04:07.23 | WinnyAFK | /mute jude- get to work |
| 04:07.27 | tannerld | rly? |
| 04:07.36 | brlcad | argh, i have a (lack of) food headache |
| 04:07.41 | poolio | I don't even think I have to be online to work, brlcad ? |
| 04:08.41 | brlcad | huh? |
| 04:08.58 | poolio | do I have to be online while I work on my GA stuff? |
| 04:09.03 | brlcad | ah |
| 04:09.11 | poolio | can I take my laptop and camp out in the woods and get back to you in a couple months? |
| 04:09.18 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:09.41 | tannerld | depends on how much sun light you receive each day |
| 04:09.54 | Macrosoft | solar panels? |
| 04:10.05 | Macrosoft | solar powered laptop |
| 04:10.06 | Macrosoft | ? |
| 04:10.06 | WinnyAFK | heh |
| 04:10.32 | Macrosoft | i need to get a gravity powered laptop |
| 04:10.44 | WinnyAFK | haha |
| 04:10.44 | Macrosoft | that would solve my problems |
| 04:10.57 | tannerld | Perpetual energy is impossible ;) |
| 04:11.09 | jude- | but you can get near-perpetual energy :P |
| 04:11.34 | Macrosoft | or i could very inefficient energy |
| 04:12.09 | Macrosoft | buy 2 get one for three times normal price! :) |
| 04:12.13 | poolio | jude-: But there is no universe, so how can we syphen energy from it? |
| 04:12.14 | tannerld | jude-: well, I'll be 80 in 2071 |
| 04:12.35 | jude- | poolio: we're in one :) |
| 04:12.52 | brlcad | s/match/math |
| 04:13.01 | brlcad | s/th/th\// |
| 04:13.24 | poolio | jude-: We aren't in a universe, we don't even exist. |
| 04:13.41 | jude- | I wonder, then, who it is I'm talking to :) |
| 04:13.43 | poolio | jude-: Don't make me go existential on you |
| 04:13.46 | jude- | lol |
| 04:13.53 | jude- | don't you mean nihlist? |
| 04:14.22 | Macrosoft | you can determine your existence by taking the square root of a negative number :p |
| 04:14.32 | WinnyAFK | yay, bzflagr.net finally completed registeeration |
| 04:14.48 | jude- | didn't a_meteorite want that domain |
| 04:14.48 | jude- | ? |
| 04:15.09 | WinnyAFK | yeah :p |
| 04:15.16 | WinnyAFK | but I came up with it |
| 04:15.21 | WinnyAFK | dibs! |
| 04:15.59 | Macrosoft | bzflag development is slow... maybe we should plot the schedule on a mobius strip |
| 04:16.38 | blast007 | Macrosoft: or you could quit complianing and do something to help ;) |
| 04:16.40 | WinnyAFK | put pacthes welcome on oppisite sides |
| 04:16.43 | WinnyAFK | ;) |
| 04:17.03 | Macrosoft | i have no way to help |
| 04:17.05 | Macrosoft | :( |
| 04:17.13 | Macrosoft | im useless |
| 04:17.29 | WinnyAFK | even I found a way |
| 04:17.33 | WinnyAFK | surely you can |
| 04:17.36 | brlcad | tannerld: you're about two decades younger than I thought you were.. :) |
| 04:17.52 | tannerld | brlcad: I get that a whole lot. :P |
| 04:17.59 | jude- | heh--tannerld is as old as my younger brother :) |
| 04:18.10 | tannerld | jude-: does it just scare you :P |
| 04:18.13 | WinnyAFK | jude thought I was 20... :E |
| 04:18.15 | brlcad | tannerld: are you the same "tanner" on bzbb? |
| 04:18.22 | tannerld | yep |
| 04:18.31 | jude- | tannerld: yes; I thought you were twice your age :P |
| 04:18.50 | Macrosoft | infinity Mbits/sec |
| 04:19.11 | jude- | heh--the devs get information before they know they've asked for it :) |
| 04:19.19 | jude- | ....with that speed |
| 04:19.31 | Macrosoft | like my computer... |
| 04:19.34 | blast007 | "I wonder if -- oh, the page loaded.." |
| 04:19.57 | tannerld | one day we will have RFID chips in our head that link to Google :P |
| 04:19.59 | jude- | "the page appeared before I typed in the query!" |
| 04:20.20 | Macrosoft | the page appeared a week before i needed that info!! |
| 04:20.38 | jude- | Macrosoft: that happens already :) The trick is finding it again when you *really* need it |
| 04:20.49 | Macrosoft | this makes thinking obsolete |
| 04:20.51 | tannerld | Macrosoft: nah, you'd be afraid of your own futuer then; then you would change it, and then the resuls would be useless |
| 04:22.03 | Macrosoft | who needs to think when everything happens before you think of it |
| 04:22.26 | brlcad | tannerld: heh, it's the picture.. I just realized that is Grissom |
| 04:22.34 | Macrosoft | ? |
| 04:22.35 | brlcad | presumably at least |
| 04:22.37 | tannerld | brlcad: lol |
| 04:22.42 | tannerld | brlcad: yep it is him |
| 04:23.23 | tannerld | you're the second person to think that might be me :P |
| 04:23.29 | brlcad | don't think i've seen him that young before, thought that was a picture of you |
| 04:23.50 | brlcad | i bet i'm more than the second.. probably just the second to say something |
| 04:23.59 | tannerld | lol |
| 04:24.18 | tannerld | i just googled that pic some time ago and its been my "default avatar" at places :P |
| 04:25.41 | a_temp_dist | FYI for admins - the blogspot advertiser is on the servers now |
| 04:26.07 | Macrosoft | ban him for all eternity |
| 04:27.04 | delusional | ...and add blogspot to your badwords list |
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| 04:52.21 | WinnyAFK | a_temp_dist, the usual name, I assume |
| 04:52.40 | a_temp_dist | yes |
| 04:52.50 | WinnyAFK | k |
| 04:53.15 | a_temp_dist | and another "god mode" cheat using the name "dont_kill_me" |
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| 04:58.52 | WinnyAFK | oh joy |
| 04:58.57 | Macrosoft | *sending cheaters to /dev/null |
| 04:58.59 | Macrosoft | * |
| 04:59.16 | jude- | ...since 1992 :) |
| 04:59.33 | tannerld | ~jude-++ |
| 04:59.34 | Macrosoft | ? |
| 04:59.52 | WinnyAFK | they just like to make jude- feel good |
| 04:59.53 | WinnyAFK | :p |
| 04:59.57 | jude- | "sending cheaters to /dev/null since 1992" |
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| 05:00.27 | Macrosoft | error: /dev/null is full |
| 05:00.31 | jude- | lol |
| 05:00.34 | jude- | it better not be :) |
| 05:00.46 | jude- | how are we going to eliminate the rest of the cheaters? |
| 05:01.04 | Macrosoft | *sending to the abyss* |
| 05:01.07 | WinnyAFK | why, brlcad will eat them! |
| 05:01.12 | jude- | dd if=/dev/zero of=<cheater-name> bs=1k count=1 |
| 05:01.38 | TimRiker | /dev/random would be better imho |
| 05:01.54 | jude- | heh. that works just as well :) |
| 05:01.59 | WinnyAFK | oh, btw, if anyone cares, my map program is dead, someone stole my USb stick, which it was on. |
| 05:02.09 | jude- | I'm sorry to hear that |
| 05:02.13 | a_temp_dist | no backup? |
| 05:02.27 | Macrosoft | no tracking device? |
| 05:02.37 | WinnyAFK | I have one, but it is old old old |
| 05:03.15 | Macrosoft | step 1: attach beeper... step 2: make it beep until thief goes insane |
| 05:04.05 | tannerld | WinnyAFK: you should've put one of those USB tracker programs on it :P |
| 05:04.25 | Macrosoft | ooh, i know a better place to send cheaters... to windows vista |
| 05:04.29 | WinnyAFK | tannerld, someone took it, and smashed it |
| 05:04.35 | tannerld | heh |
| 05:04.42 | WinnyAFK | I found it later on friday |
| 05:04.46 | jude- | step 1: attach remote detonator... step 2: configure cell phone to communicate with the detonator... step 3: attach small nitrous explosive to USB stick... step 4: if stolen, activate detonator to remind the thief who (s)he's messing with :P |
| 05:04.52 | tannerld | have you tried asking the USB gods for forgiveness? |
| 05:05.01 | tannerld | ~jude-++ |
| 05:05.24 | Macrosoft | ~dial-up-- |
| 05:05.29 | WinnyAFK | stop giving jude karma |
| 05:05.31 | WinnyAFK | sheese |
| 05:05.38 | jude- | ~karma dial-up |
| 05:05.38 | ibot | dial-up has karma of -1 |
| 05:05.45 | WinnyAFK | ~jude--- |
| 05:05.59 | Macrosoft | ~karma jude |
| 05:05.59 | ibot | jude has karma of 3 |
| 05:06.07 | Macrosoft | ~karma |
| 05:06.07 | ibot | macrosoft has karma of -1 |
| 05:06.12 | Macrosoft | crap |
| 05:06.13 | WinnyAFK | we shall karmalize you when we see program! |
| 05:06.16 | WinnyAFK | err, karmaize |
| 05:06.38 | Constitution | didn't jude- have like +25 karma the other day? |
| 05:06.50 | Constitution | guess he offended a lot of people in the last few days |
| 05:06.51 | tannerld | s/he does |
| 05:06.55 | tannerld | ~karma jude- |
| 05:06.55 | ibot | jude- has karma of 41 |
| 05:06.59 | tannerld | people just can't spell |
| 05:07.00 | WinnyAFK | 41 |
| 05:07.01 | Macrosoft | being caramelized wouldnt be that bad... actually pretty tasty |
| 05:07.01 | Constitution | oh, oops |
| 05:07.03 | WinnyAFK | jesus |
| 05:07.09 | WinnyAFK | ~karma |
| 05:07.09 | ibot | winnyafk has neutral karma |
| 05:07.17 | jude- | ~karma Winny |
| 05:07.17 | ibot | winny has karma of 13 |
| 05:07.23 | tannerld | ~karma tannerld |
| 05:07.23 | ibot | tannerld has karma of 12 |
| 05:07.25 | WinnyAFK | who gave me one more? |
| 05:07.29 | tannerld | O.o |
| 05:07.30 | WinnyAFK | ~Winny-- |
| 05:07.41 | Macrosoft | ~karma jesus |
| 05:07.41 | ibot | jesus has neutral karma |
| 05:07.46 | Macrosoft | lol |
| 05:07.46 | jude- | lol |
| 05:07.55 | Macrosoft | that cant be right |
| 05:08.05 | Constitution | this is a sacrelige |
| 05:08.11 | Macrosoft | ~karma satan |
| 05:08.11 | ibot | satan has neutral karma |
| 05:08.11 | Constitution | or however that's spelled |
| 05:08.11 | WinnyAFK | ~jesus-- |
| 05:08.15 | jude- | ~karma God |
| 05:08.16 | ibot | god has neutral karma |
| 05:08.18 | jude- | lol |
| 05:08.24 | Constitution | pfft |
| 05:08.29 | Macrosoft | ~satan-- |
| 05:08.49 | jude- | WinnyAFK: aren't you away from your keyboard? ;) |
| 05:09.01 | a_meteorite | uh hi Winny |
| 05:09.07 | a_meteorite | you regged bzflagr.net ... |
| 05:09.08 | Macrosoft | so thats what afk means |
| 05:09.12 | Winny | uh hi met |
| 05:09.17 | Winny | I did |
| 05:09.18 | Winny | ... |
| 05:09.20 | a_meteorite | meanie |
| 05:09.23 | a_meteorite | dibs |
| 05:09.24 | Winny | heyhey |
| 05:09.27 | Winny | you can use it |
| 05:09.31 | a_meteorite | ooooh |
| 05:09.35 | Winny | and it was my idea |
| 05:09.36 | Winny | :p |
| 05:09.49 | a_meteorite | OooOOoOo |
| 05:09.58 | tannerld | ~no |
| 05:09.59 | ibot | YES |
| 05:10.01 | tannerld | ~yes |
| 05:10.02 | ibot | You don't say! |
| 05:10.04 | tannerld | ... |
| 05:10.07 | Macrosoft | rm /dev/null |
| 05:10.17 | tannerld | Macrosoft: sudo |
| 05:10.40 | blast007 | a_meteorite: you snooze you loose |
| 05:10.41 | Macrosoft | su root rm /dev/null |
| 05:10.52 | a_meteorite | actually, the problem is cash, not snoozing |
| 05:11.00 | a_meteorite | I would have registered it the second I heard it if I had money :P |
| 05:11.16 | blast007 | so then it's not really a problem then, since you weren't going to buy it anyway |
| 05:11.19 | Winny | it was myyy idea |
| 05:11.43 | brlcad | huh, looks like I lost all my karma |
| 05:11.56 | brlcad | TimRiker: ibot db get corrupted? |
| 05:11.58 | a_meteorite | blast007: uh, I didn't say that, I would have totally bought it if I had money |
| 05:12.00 | Constitution | ~brlcad++ |
| 05:12.06 | Macrosoft | ~karma ibot |
| 05:12.06 | ibot | ibot has karma of 22 |
| 05:12.10 | a_meteorite | ~karma a_meteorite |
| 05:12.10 | ibot | a_meteorite has karma of 36 |
| 05:12.14 | a_meteorite | i win |
| 05:12.23 | Macrosoft | no you dont |
| 05:12.28 | Constitution | ~karma SportChick |
| 05:12.28 | ibot | sportchick has karma of 527 |
| 05:12.30 | Macrosoft | ~karma jude- |
| 05:12.30 | ibot | jude- has karma of 41 |
| 05:12.35 | Constitution | haha |
| 05:12.40 | blast007 | a_meteorite: right, but you don't |
| 05:12.42 | delusional | ~karma a-delusion |
| 05:12.42 | ibot | a-delusion has karma of 8 |
| 05:12.45 | Macrosoft | jude beats meteor |
| 05:12.54 | a_meteorite | blast007: that doesn't change the fact that I *want* to buy something |
| 05:12.55 | delusional | ~karma cbg |
| 05:12.55 | ibot | cbg has karma of -436 |
| 05:13.04 | Macrosoft | wow |
| 05:13.14 | a_meteorite | Macrosoft: he LIKES negative karma |
| 05:13.20 | Winny | "sirs, there is only one xbox left" |
| 05:13.25 | Macrosoft | im still higher than satan |
| 05:13.31 | Winny | "I was here first, but I don't have any money" |
| 05:13.37 | Winny | "BUT I WS GUN BY IT" |
| 05:13.38 | Macrosoft | ~karma stan |
| 05:13.38 | ibot | stan has neutral karma |
| 05:13.42 | Macrosoft | oops |
| 05:13.51 | Macrosoft | ~karma satan |
| 05:13.51 | ibot | satan has karma of -1 |
| 05:14.11 | Macrosoft | ok...never mind...im tied with satan |
| 05:14.25 | blast007 | okay, I think the bot has gotten enough use for now... |
| 05:14.45 | Macrosoft | *ibot overheats* |
| 05:14.51 | Constitution | yeah, the poor bot... needs to get its beauty sleep |
| 05:15.08 | Macrosoft | he/she/it doenst need sleep |
| 05:15.15 | Macrosoft | *doesnt |
| 05:16.08 | a_meteorite | Macrosoft: don't assume the unknown |
| 05:16.13 | Macrosoft | but he has the 'i' in front of his name, and apple cant be trusted |
| 05:16.33 | a_meteorite | you can trust apple to do the unexpected |
| 05:16.42 | a_meteorite | so, technically, you're wrong :D |
| 05:16.56 | Macrosoft | yeah, like crashing is unexpected |
| 05:17.11 | a_meteorite | my mac doesn't crash |
| 05:17.51 | Macrosoft | it does most things without notifying a user, so it wouldnt tell you if it did |
| 05:17.59 | Macrosoft | :) |
| 05:18.07 | jude- | Macrosoft: windows is the same way :) |
| 05:18.22 | WinnySleeping | laters |
| 05:18.26 | Macrosoft | thats why i dont use windows |
| 05:18.27 | jude- | bye Winny |
| 05:18.47 | Macrosoft | nor will i ever think of using vista |
| 05:20.03 | Macrosoft | you have been cursed just by touching a computer running vista |
| 05:20.28 | Macrosoft | or should i say, trying to run vista |
| 05:20.49 | jude- | not on one of *my* machines... I was using a friend's |
| 05:20.57 | Macrosoft | vista will devour your system resources |
| 05:21.04 | jude- | so I've noticed :) |
| 05:21.40 | Macrosoft | then it will crap out the blue screen of death |
| 05:22.19 | jude- | you sure it's not a smokey-tranlucent screen of death now :) |
| 05:22.37 | jude- | *translucent |
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| 05:22.38 | Macrosoft | hmm.. why did they choose to make the screen of death blue instead of red? |
| 05:22.48 | jude- | blue is a soothing color... |
| 05:22.51 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r14370 10/trunk/db/bzfls2/ (bzfls.php database.sql includes/datalayer.class.php): Set the 'username' field to unique in the 'players' table, add generate_random_string(), add code to add player account during registration, fix Player_Insert function |
| 05:23.07 | Macrosoft | so you dont beat your computer with a bat? |
| 05:23.13 | jude- | something like that :)\ |
| 05:23.28 | tannerld | heh |
| 05:23.32 | Macrosoft | "give in to your anger" |
| 05:23.48 | tannerld | the BSoD is blue because of all the bruses it gets from getting the SoD. :D |
| 05:24.16 | jude- | quite possibly :) |
| 05:25.19 | Macrosoft | error: unable to draw BSoD, will crash without warning instead |
| 05:25.27 | Macrosoft | *crash* |
| 05:26.16 | tannerld | that was the warning |
| 05:26.48 | Macrosoft | no, it was never shown, just recorded in the log :) |
| 05:29.15 | Macrosoft | ... |
| 05:34.45 | F376C9h | run that on your ti83p |
| 05:34.47 | F376C9h | :) |
| 05:39.29 | F376C9h | hope no one tried it |
| 05:39.42 | blast007 | tried what? |
| 05:39.53 | F376C9h | my name |
| 05:40.12 | blast007 | oh yes, we all went and grabbed our TI83, and typed that in |
| 05:40.24 | F376C9h | you shouldnt |
| 05:40.39 | F376C9h | DI; |
| 05:40.44 | F376C9h | HALT; |
| 05:40.46 | F376C9h | RET |
| 05:40.50 | F376C9h | ; |
| 05:41.54 | F376C9h | ... it would lock the z80 in the halt state until you hard reset it (its still draining your battery) |
| 05:42.32 | Constitution | well then what am I waiting for... I'll have to do that right away :-P |
| 06:42.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r14371 10/trunk/db/bzfls2/ (bzfls.php includes/datalayer.class.php): Add 'Server_Exists_ByIPAddressPort', 'Player_Fetch_ByUsername', and 'Player_Exists_ByUsername' to DataLayer, check if a player already exists during registration, generate contents of welcome email with activation link |
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| 06:51.52 | EbErT | can someone help me figure out how to install Slayer's mac iTunes plugin |
| 06:52.41 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r14372 10/trunk/db/bzfls2/bzfls.php: Update the input for the 'CONFIRM' action |
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| 07:08.24 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r14373 10/trunk/db/bzfls2/bzfls.php: Add logic for confirming registration |
| 07:09.07 | blast007 | EbErT: assuming you mean a patch, not a plugin |
| 07:09.21 | EbErT | right blast |
| 07:09.34 | blast007 | you'll use the 'patch' command on the source code |
| 07:09.41 | blast007 | then compile the binary |
| 07:09.53 | blast007 | read up on how to use 'patch' |
| 07:10.19 | EbErT | ok, thx |
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| 07:16.26 | L4m3r | ugh |
| 07:16.37 | L4m3r | pythonian seeded his server with eight bots |
| 07:21.22 | Constitution | everyone join and /poll set _disableBots 1 |
| 07:21.33 | L4m3r | heh |
| 07:21.43 | L4m3r | I think he should just be kicked off the list, personally |
| 07:30.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r14374 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (26 files in 15 dirs): |
| 07:30.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: No GUI yet, but this will probably be the last commit without one if all goes well. Added support for "define", GREATLY improved the BZW parsering |
| 07:30.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: API's ability to handle sub-objects, added initial code for an OpenGL window and a Console window, and miscellaneous fixes. |
| 07:30.50 | ruskie | jude-, so decided on a gui toolkit? |
| 07:31.06 | jude- | 90% chance of FLTK |
| 07:31.13 | ruskie | : |
| 07:31.14 | ruskie | :) |
| 07:31.23 | jude- | 10% chance I'll chicken out and learn GTK+ so I can use OGRE |
| 07:31.39 | ruskie | lol |
| 07:31.43 | jude- | 50% chance I'll end up writing my own 3D scene manager |
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| 08:35.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03judecn * r14375 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 08:35.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: The top-level file parser is now a near-perfect copy of BZWParser::getSections(), but it executes *much* faster (orders of magnitude faster) than |
| 08:35.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: it's predecessor, which just loaded the contents of a .bzw file into RAM and invoked BZWParser::getSections() to parse out the object. Also, the |
| 08:35.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Model knows how to load, store, and recall "define" objects. Next major update should have some sort of GUI. |
| 08:37.14 | jude- | for those of you just reading that commit message, "orders of magnitude" means that the predecessor took about 30 seconds, and the current one takes half a second :P |
| 08:38.17 | jude- | (i.e. the code duplication is worth it) |
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| 11:07.08 | daxxar | brlcad: Yeah, I'll check if robocode has any version identifier :-) |
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| 11:14.22 | ruskie | Manu, something wrong with the server? |
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| 12:06.29 | qopi | whoops mischan :P |
| 12:06.41 | qopi | TimRiker, owner of purl, are you around? |
| 12:14.24 | brlcad | qopi: he's not around at the moment -- retry in few hours after he wakes up |
| 12:14.36 | brlcad | ~seen TimRiker |
| 12:14.37 | ibot | timriker <i=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 7h 12m 59s ago, saying: '/dev/random would be better imho'. |
| 12:14.50 | qopi | brlcad: ok, thanks |
| 12:15.32 | qopi | apparently the people I arranged loads of nice bots for don't want their channel logged afterall! |
| 12:15.34 | brlcad | yeah, he's the only one that can help with that |
| 12:15.45 | qopi | ok ta, I'll check back later on |
| 12:30.31 | Manu | buenos dÃas brlcad :) |
| 12:30.53 | brlcad | g'mornin' |
| 12:31.13 | Manu | :) |
| 12:38.30 | Winny | hello |
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| 13:01.12 | SpazzyMcGee | I got a mesh in a group, a couple of hundred faces. Whenever I shift it anywhere other than along the Z axis, a face stops drawing. Any Ideas? |
| 13:02.17 | SpazzyMcGee | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:02.56 | SpazzyMcGee | "non-convex mesh face (0.000000): 34 87 95 86 12" How can a face be convex? Or am I thinking of a different sort of convex? |
| 13:04.00 | Winny | are you using triangulated faces? |
| 13:05.04 | Winny | OH |
| 13:05.09 | SpazzyMcGee | nope. I was just about to try re-exporting it. It's a bit of a b!tch, cause I made several exports. |
| 13:05.23 | SpazzyMcGee | s/exports/edits |
| 13:05.24 | Winny | can't have a mesh with more then 4 faces |
| 13:05.33 | SpazzyMcGee | eh? |
| 13:05.49 | Winny | vertices 34 87 95 86 12 |
| 13:05.55 | Winny | errr |
| 13:05.57 | Winny | verticies |
| 13:06.05 | Winny | a bit early in the morning for me :p |
| 13:06.16 | SpazzyMcGee | not an issue. I can have as many verts as I want on a face ;P |
| 13:06.36 | Winny | in your own lil word, yes. yes you can |
| 13:07.08 | SpazzyMcGee | I'm sure I was once told BZFS triangulates meshes anyway.... |
| 13:07.43 | Winny | yeah, but methinks that it only likes 4 verted meshes to begin with |
| 13:08.09 | SpazzyMcGee | Like I said, the face draws perfectly, untill I shift it away from the origin. |
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| 13:10.14 | Winny | just try it |
| 13:10.16 | Winny | :p |
| 13:10.21 | Winny | ~lart ducatiwannabe |
| 13:10.21 | ibot | judo chops ducatiwannabe |
| 13:10.27 | SpazzyMcGee | 'try it'? |
| 13:10.40 | SpazzyMcGee | I'll try triangulating it. |
| 13:10.46 | Winny | thats what I meant |
| 13:12.16 | Tedius | try tri'ing it |
| 13:13.05 | ducatiwannabe | ~lart Winny |
| 13:13.05 | ibot | pries Winny's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to Winny |
| 13:13.11 | ducatiwannabe | :p |
| 13:13.23 | Winny | ~trout ducatiwannabe |
| 13:13.23 | ibot | ACTION slaps ducatiwannabe around a bit with a large trout! |
| 13:13.33 | ducatiwannabe | ~fart Winny |
| 13:13.34 | ibot | ACTION farts in Winny's general direction |
| 13:13.40 | ducatiwannabe | :P |
| 13:13.45 | Winny | ok, lets stop the botabuse |
| 13:13.49 | ducatiwannabe | :) k |
| 13:16.58 | Winny | (: |
| 13:17.54 | SpazzyMcGee | It worked. Gotta do loads of edits now though. |
| 13:18.23 | Winny | your welcome. |
| 13:18.25 | Winny | :p |
| 13:18.49 | ducatiwannabe | :) |
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| 14:30.10 | donny_baker | ~balst007++ |
| 14:30.26 | donny_baker | nothing like stating the obvious :) |
| 14:30.35 | tannerld | you spelled it wrong |
| 14:30.35 | donny_baker | ~blast007++ |
| 14:30.37 | tannerld | lol |
| 14:30.57 | Winny | ~lart tomer |
| 14:30.57 | ibot | blasts tomer to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
| 14:31.02 | Winny | ~blast007++ |
| 14:33.14 | donny_baker | I wonder how many of the kiddies that have servers up have gaping security holes in their router/machine config |
| 14:33.43 | TheRedBaron | evil donny_baker |
| 14:34.24 | blast007 | donny_baker: some of them probably don't even have routers ;D |
| 14:34.37 | donny_baker | i wouldn't do anything to probe them, but it just makes me shiver to think about it |
| 14:34.59 | donny_baker | blast007: you are probably right |
| 14:35.03 | blast007 | "wuts a firewal?! i have minsweeper! that a firewal right?!" |
| 14:36.46 | Winny | haha |
| 14:37.45 | Macrosoft | :) |
| 14:38.16 | Macrosoft | only 2 ports open here: 5156 and 8001 |
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| 14:43.58 | quantumdot | Macrosoft: are you running a server on dial in connection? |
| 14:44.07 | Macrosoft | no |
| 14:44.23 | Macrosoft | comcast |
| 14:48.13 | quantumdot | so "here" does not really mean "here" |
| 14:48.14 | quantumdot | Winny: same question as before for you |
| 14:48.18 | quantumdot | are you running a server on a home connection? |
| 14:49.05 | quantumdot | Macrosoft: but it is a home connection? I did not mean dial, but home |
| 14:49.18 | quantumdot | in general, either cable, ADSL, ... |
| 14:49.24 | Macrosoft | cable |
| 14:50.15 | quantumdot | how many people can your home server support? |
| 14:50.31 | Macrosoft | hmm... dobt know |
| 14:50.37 | Macrosoft | *dont |
| 14:50.50 | quantumdot | well, how many are you accepting |
| 14:51.03 | quantumdot | within config file |
| 14:51.09 | Macrosoft | the most i remember having on at one time was 18 players |
| 14:51.19 | quantumdot | that's a lot |
| 14:51.29 | Macrosoft | the max is 20 red, 20 blue, and 20 observers |
| 14:51.35 | quantumdot | i doubt it can be playable |
| 14:51.48 | donny_baker | your connection will max out before you hit that |
| 14:52.02 | quantumdot | donny_baker: that's another way to put it |
| 14:52.06 | donny_baker | 18-20 is more likely |
| 14:52.13 | quantumdot | no more than 4 player should be ok |
| 14:52.33 | quantumdot | 10 would already give lag i guess |
| 14:52.57 | quantumdot | i am surprised you can even use you internet form home while running a server |
| 14:53.19 | donny_baker | Thumper used to host norang on his cable, and we could get 18-20 before really noticing extra lag |
| 14:53.23 | Macrosoft | with 18 people, the average lag was around 300ms |
| 14:53.38 | Winny | Macrosoft, you;ve beeon on my server? |
| 14:53.46 | Winny | quantumdot, I can hold 20 no problem |
| 14:53.51 | Macrosoft | i can still use the net when i have the server on |
| 14:53.53 | quantumdot | on cable Winny? |
| 14:53.54 | donny_baker | with my T1 we can get up to a little over 30 |
| 14:54.34 | Macrosoft | Winny: whats the name of yours |
| 14:54.36 | Macrosoft | ? |
| 14:55.12 | Winny | yes |
| 14:55.27 | Macrosoft | your server name? |
| 14:55.33 | quantumdot | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.48 | quantumdot | maybe others too |
| 14:56.00 | quantumdot | but it is a private server Macrosoft |
| 14:56.19 | Macrosoft | yep |
| 14:56.30 | Macrosoft | it kicked me when i tried to spawn |
| 14:58.05 | Macrosoft | i have one player on mine, lag is 107ms |
| 14:58.15 | Macrosoft | which is higher than norma |
| 14:58.17 | Macrosoft | l |
| 14:58.42 | TheRedBaron | Macrosoft: where is he from? |
| 14:58.47 | Macrosoft | texas |
| 14:58.58 | TheRedBaron | and your server is located where? |
| 14:59.10 | Macrosoft | or atleast thats what his callsign says |
| 15:00.17 | Macrosoft | hes not answering, i think hes away from his computer, he hasnt moved in a while |
| 15:00.32 | brad | winny is matching |
| 15:00.39 | brad | 5 mins left |
| 15:00.47 | Macrosoft | huh? |
| 15:01.14 | quantumdot | hehe, crossed dialog |
| 15:02.16 | donny_baker | Macrosoft: where is your server? |
| 15:02.30 | Macrosoft | louisiana |
| 15:03.16 | TheRedBaron | the problem with cable, is its shared bandwidth |
| 15:03.22 | Macrosoft | yeah |
| 15:03.47 | Macrosoft | i cant control what my neighbors do online |
| 15:04.17 | Macrosoft | or... not legally, that is |
| 15:04.49 | Macrosoft | o |
| 15:06.53 | Winny | k |
| 15:06.53 | Winny | done |
| 15:07.00 | Winny | thx for telling him, brad |
| 15:07.22 | Winny | are you saying im from texas? |
| 15:08.34 | Winny | oh, the player on your server |
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| 16:05.49 | donny_baker | ~lart tomer, again, |
| 16:05.49 | ibot | crushes tomer, again, with a full height scsi disk |
| 16:07.28 | Winny | ~lart tomer forever |
| 16:07.28 | ibot | --purges tomer forever |
| 16:07.31 | Winny | woot |
| 16:10.04 | Winny | ~donny_baker++ |
| 16:11.37 | Erroneous | donny_baker: I presume you sent him a pm asking him to follow the rules? |
| 16:12.10 | donny_baker | Erroneous: yes, you know me to well |
| 16:12.18 | Erroneous | cool, then I won't bother :) |
| 16:12.46 | Winny | I sent him one as well |
| 16:12.58 | Winny | infact, I sent him two and just change the title on the other |
| 16:13.10 | Winny | that seems to be what he does, to maybe he'll read it that way |
| 16:13.17 | Erroneous | heh |
| 16:13.22 | donny_baker | also added that I'm not a board admin, but I was sure that theirs would follow and he wouldn't really like it if he didn't get his act together :) |
| 16:13.44 | Winny | he thinks im an admin... I wanna keep it that way :p |
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| 16:28.24 | donny_baker | he acnowledged my PM and thanks me... we'll see what happens |
| 16:30.19 | donny_baker | lets hope he got it with my PM.. you missed the beginning of the discussion here :) |
| 16:30.47 | donny_baker | well not really a discussion... more like a couple of lats |
| 16:30.55 | donny_baker | s/lats/larts/ |
| 16:33.37 | JeffM | I figured that's who it was abbout |
| 16:33.41 | JeffM | I have sent him PMs as well |
| 16:33.47 | JeffM | and he's obviously ignoring them |
| 16:33.58 | JeffM | so I doubt your PM will do much |
| 16:34.09 | JeffM | he's getting one more from me then that's it |
| 16:34.15 | donny_baker | i know, but least I can do is try |
| 16:36.28 | Winny | you obviously don't spend enough of your workday on IRC |
| 16:36.30 | Winny | ;) |
| 16:37.54 | Winny | ok, really going to start CSS for dummies now |
| 16:38.10 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Erroneous] by ChanServ |
| 16:38.53 | JeffM | if tomer does another post like that, let me know |
| 16:40.36 | Winny | JeffM, it won't be long |
| 16:42.14 | JeffM | maybe, maybe not |
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| 16:47.42 | jftsang | tedius |
| 16:48.04 | jftsang | where did the maelstrom server (and all of the other tedius.dyndns.org servers) go |
| 16:52.05 | KTL | maelstrom ... ... starcraft ... arbiter ability! |
| 17:03.44 | Winny | drupal is complex :p |
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| 17:13.40 | donny_baker | is that what you are using for that one site? |
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| 17:34.09 | jftsang | hi |
| 17:34.29 | jftsang | where do i get a map editor that WORKS |
| 17:34.36 | jftsang | and isnt wings 3d |
| 17:34.48 | blast007 | depends what kind of map you want to make |
| 17:35.07 | blast007 | in most cases, there will be some amount of hand-editing |
| 17:35.28 | jftsang | i need to make a ship object |
| 17:35.35 | jftsang | which i will define and include in maps |
| 17:35.42 | jftsang | the ship is just a base and boxes |
| 17:35.50 | blast007 | export it to an .obj, then convert it with modeltool |
| 17:36.00 | Winny | use blender |
| 17:36.01 | Winny | ;) |
| 17:36.07 | ts | You can use any 3D modeller as long you can export to obj |
| 17:36.42 | ts | Heh, blender is the most unintuitive modeller, at least for me ;) |
| 17:36.43 | JeffM | blender does work |
| 17:36.52 | jftsang | blender? ill try it |
| 17:36.54 | JeffM | but we don't have an app that is specific for edting all bzflag stuff yet |
| 17:37.08 | Winny | make jude- work harder ;) |
| 17:37.21 | JeffM | we will in q3 :) |
| 17:37.31 | jftsang | im using bzeditw32 |
| 17:37.59 | JeffM | that only suports a small subset of the current bzflag options |
| 17:38.09 | JeffM | it is old and unmaintained. |
| 17:38.22 | JeffM | and the guy who wrote it is an ass |
| 17:38.57 | blast007 | ;) |
| 17:39.35 | JeffM | what kind of map objects are you trying to make? |
| 17:39.47 | Winny | "i need to make a ship object" |
| 17:40.01 | Winny | Jeff, tomer is effecting you ;) |
| 17:40.08 | JeffM | ahh I see, thanks |
| 17:40.16 | JeffM | but he says it's made of boxes |
| 17:40.25 | JeffM | so does he want a mesh? or a collection of old boxes? |
| 17:40.40 | JeffM | see ^^^ informed question ;) |
| 17:40.46 | Winny | ahh, true |
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| 17:43.33 | qopi | hmz still no TimRiker |
| 17:43.41 | JeffM | he comes and goes |
| 17:43.45 | JeffM | what did you need him for? |
| 17:43.46 | qopi | are there any bots that I can use to pass on a message? |
| 17:43.56 | JeffM | IRC bots? |
| 17:44.08 | JeffM | did you need him for a bzflag related thing? |
| 17:44.22 | JeffM | we may be able to help you if that is the case |
| 17:44.23 | qopi | yeah, I got him to put a bot in a channel and the peeps don't want it there any more coz they don't want logs |
| 17:44.30 | JeffM | heh |
| 17:44.34 | JeffM | send him an email |
| 17:44.41 | qopi | good idea |
| 17:44.45 | JeffM | tim at rikers.org and he can pull it |
| 17:44.56 | qopi | cool thanks JeffM |
| 17:45.00 | JeffM | sure |
| 17:45.37 | Winny | why don't they want logs? planning world domination? |
| 17:45.44 | Winny | if so, I want in :) |
| 17:45.48 | Winny | :p |
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| 17:48.31 | qopi | Winny: heh, think it had something to go with g8 stuff or something |
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| 18:14.18 | TheRedBaron | qopi: alternatively - /msg memoserv send timriker <memo> |
| 18:15.02 | qopi | TheRedBaron: aha, never actually done that before, so tempting, but e-mail alraedy sent, thanks anyway! :) |
| 18:15.17 | JeffM | he gets e-mail faster |
| 18:15.32 | JeffM | you can boot and ban the bot untill he makes the change tho |
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| 18:16.37 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 18:16.52 | findlay | what do you know? :) |
| 18:17.18 | qopi | hi TimRiker get my e-mail? |
| 18:17.21 | qopi | :) |
| 18:28.03 | TimRiker | qopi: yes. I get too many requests like that. if you want the bot out of the channel, I'm happy to do that. |
| 18:28.10 | TimRiker | I'm not planning on removing the logs. |
| 18:28.44 | ruskie | lol you get asked to remove I get asked to provide stats :) |
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| 18:50.44 | EbErT | help! whats the keyboard shortcut for Logout on OSX? |
| 18:51.08 | brad | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.16 | JBdiGriz | Shift Command Q from the Finder |
| 18:51.18 | EbErT | i tried 2.1.10 beta, it resized my resolution and got rid of the bars |
| 18:51.24 | EbErT | funny brad |
| 18:51.44 | EbErT | no dock, no top bar |
| 18:52.27 | JBdiGriz | It sounds like the finder died. Try Command Option Escape |
| 18:53.56 | EbErT | very interesting, i relaunched it, only the bzflag icon is there |
| 18:54.26 | JBdiGriz | Restart the machine. I have noticed that bzflag will do odd things to the finder which can only be cleared by a restart. |
| 18:54.29 | qopi | TimRiker: hope you enjoyed your lunch :) yes, please remove the bot. as for the logs, isn't it just a matter of simply deleting the relevant directory? i'm a little confused as to why you wouldn't be willing to do that? /me wonders |
| 18:54.53 | EbErT | ok JB, i'll try logging out first |
| 18:55.41 | *** part/#bzflag EbErT (n=EbErT@adsl-223-42-128.aep.bellsouth.net) |
| 18:55.49 | JBdiGriz | I'll have to try bzflag on the new Leopard beta. I want to check out the openGL profiling tools as well as the process profiling tools. |
| 18:57.33 | jftsang | hi |
| 18:57.41 | jftsang | im back |
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| 19:09.13 | findlay | what's wrong with logging the channel? |
| 19:10.05 | Winny | evil things |
| 19:12.44 | TheRedBaron | ha |
| 19:12.54 | TheRedBaron | how many people her have their own personal logs? |
| 19:13.00 | TheRedBaron | *here |
| 19:13.22 | Winny | 20mb log folder :p |
| 19:13.41 | TheRedBaron | ibot logs are hardly your concern |
| 19:13.42 | ibot | ...but logs is already something else... |
| 19:13.50 | Winny | hehe |
| 19:13.55 | TheRedBaron | and you can avoid being logged |
| 19:14.08 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.33 | Winny | ~ignore findlay |
| 19:14.34 | ibot | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, findlay!" |
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| 19:15.07 | findlay | ~logs |
| 19:15.08 | ibot | logs is, like, http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 19:15.13 | findlay | ~pineapple |
| 19:15.14 | ibot | ACTION dances around with a pineapple on her head, singing ~o pineapple pineapple pineapple ~o |
| 19:18.34 | EbErT | hmph, atleast my ram install worked |
| 19:19.07 | findlay | ~free |
| 19:19.08 | ibot | from memory, free is stuff might take awhile to get done |
| 19:19.40 | Winny | ~botabuse |
| 19:19.40 | ibot | hmm... botabuse is fun |
| 19:19.55 | findlay | ~make money |
| 19:19.56 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `money'. Stop. |
| 19:19.57 | Macrosoft | ibots a girl now? |
| 19:20.09 | Winny | it varies |
| 19:20.19 | Winny | depends on who made the factiod |
| 19:20.19 | Macrosoft | read the pineapple thing above |
| 19:20.51 | Winny | jbot and ibot share the same factiods, methinks |
| 19:20.58 | JeffM | they are the same bot |
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| 19:27.35 | Winny | hiya Constitution |
| 19:27.43 | Constitution | heya Winny |
| 19:28.50 | TimRiker | qopi: I regenerate the logs from time to time with minor bug fixes. each one of these exceptions is another step I need to remember to do. |
| 19:29.29 | qopi | TimRiker: heh, I'm just replying to your email reply :P |
| 19:29.34 | TimRiker | :) |
| 19:30.41 | qopi | TimRiker: sent. basically we just want ALL the logs deleted, not an exception, shouldn't that be easy, just deleting a directory or something? |
| 19:31.16 | TimRiker | and if they come back next time I update? |
| 19:31.40 | JeffM | qopi, the log pages are made from raw bot logs |
| 19:31.44 | TimRiker | I removed the vot from the channel. |
| 19:31.54 | TimRiker | heh. bot. |
| 19:32.03 | JeffM | he can delete the pages, but if he remakes the log pages from the main logs, it may remake the log pages. |
| 19:32.23 | JeffM | and realy what are you doing on freenode that is THAT secret? |
| 19:32.25 | TimRiker | and google and archive.org are going to keep them anyway. |
| 19:32.37 | JeffM | I'd think that woudl be against the network TOS |
| 19:32.37 | findlay | and I have logs too :) |
| 19:32.39 | TimRiker | nothing you do on freenode is secret. deal with it. |
| 19:33.03 | JeffM | odds are some of your users log anyway |
| 19:33.18 | TimRiker | so blame be as the Bad Guy. I said no. |
| 19:33.19 | JeffM | tell them "suck it up buttercup" |
| 19:33.23 | TheRedBaron | bots can't mis-use logs |
| 19:33.50 | TheRedBaron | people can abuse them. bots that log are the least of their worries, if they are scared of something - people that log are another story. |
| 19:34.01 | qopi | and they were just total IRC newbies connecting via CGI:IRC and hence innocent and ignorant |
| 19:34.14 | qopi | TheRedBaron: heh, good point :P |
| 19:34.36 | JeffM | remember, they have no "rights", IRC is not a deomcracy, we are all only here cus of the nice people at freenode ;) |
| 19:34.47 | TimRiker | in any case... purl is out of the channel. |
| 19:34.54 | JeffM | tell them to invent a time machine and fix it, or shut it :) |
| 19:35.11 | TimRiker | yeah. at least join #timemachine and help out. |
| 19:35.21 | JeffM | testers are always needed |
| 19:35.25 | JeffM | and donations |
| 19:35.26 | TimRiker | patches welcome |
| 19:35.38 | qopi | hehe |
| 19:35.52 | JeffM | iut's his choice |
| 19:36.00 | JeffM | he was kind enought to let you use his bot |
| 19:36.08 | qopi | indeed he was |
| 19:36.26 | TimRiker | er sorta... sheesh. |
| 19:36.39 | TimRiker | ~chaninfo |
| 19:36.39 | ibot | I'm on 81 channels: #debian/792, #kde/324, #asterisk/287, #wowace/278, #idlerpg/240, #openmoko/239, #maemo/198, #wowi-lounge/133, #oe/123, ##essy/89, #wowwiki/79, #bzflag/72, #handhelds/66, #tomcat/59, #utah/55, #slug/48, #uclibc/46, #htc-linux/44, #nslu2-linux/40, #openzaurus/35, #gllug/34, #elive/33, #edev/32, #openezx/32, #elinux/32, #norganna/28, #opie/27, ... |
| 19:36.39 | ibot | i've cached 3961 users, 3048 unique users, distributed over 81 channels. |
| 19:37.05 | TimRiker | one less is still 81 channels. |
| 19:37.28 | TimRiker | qopi: sure, any time you want a logging bot, just holler. :) |
| 19:37.57 | qopi | funny thing is, it wasn't even the purl logs they were aware of! |
| 19:38.18 | TimRiker | heh |
| 19:38.41 | JeffM | I'll bet most of the clients log too |
| 19:38.49 | JeffM | the only way to be log free is to have an empty channel |
| 19:38.58 | qopi | TimRiker: and chance of whacking a robot.txt or whatever on the relevant log page, or is that hassle too? |
| 19:39.49 | Winny | seriously, why do these logs matter so much? I Really don't see what is so top secrect. |
| 19:40.00 | qopi | JeffM: heh, yeah (although they were connecting via CGI:IRC so client not logging there) |
| 19:40.11 | JeffM | qopi, you don't know that |
| 19:40.16 | JeffM | the server that runs that may log |
| 19:40.37 | JeffM | what channel is it? so I can go save and publish the logs |
| 19:40.58 | qopi | Winny: good point, and all the palava is just drawing attention to it :P |
| 19:42.53 | JeffM | well we can just wait for the log day to roll over, and see what channel isn't in the list anymore :) |
| 19:43.03 | qopi | heh |
| 19:44.31 | qopi | ah well, great help I've been, now the whole world we seek out these mysterious logs and read them! |
| 19:44.45 | JeffM | I mean realy, what can you be chating about that is legal for the network? |
| 19:44.58 | JeffM | that you need hidden so badly? |
| 19:46.04 | Winny | JeffM: they're developing a new cheese |
| 19:46.10 | qopi | heh, yes |
| 19:46.11 | Winny | an open source cheese |
| 19:46.18 | JeffM | still what is the channel about that they don't want |
| 19:46.20 | qopi | it is a cross between cheddar and stilton |
| 19:46.52 | JeffM | the ONLY thing I can think of is solving security exploits for some software |
| 19:47.01 | JeffM | and at that point, they should know that IRC is not secure. |
| 19:47.31 | JeffM | worrying about privacy, and using web IRC... that's just stupid, |
| 19:47.36 | qopi | i think it was just chit chat between the people who did http://flashradio.wordpress.com/ |
| 19:47.46 | JeffM | the webserver can log every damn thing they do, even passwords. |
| 19:48.17 | JeffM | they are an open source project? |
| 19:49.08 | TimRiker | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23creativeforum/ |
| 19:49.21 | qopi | no, just indy reporting of g8 in germany http://flashradio.wordpress.com/about/ |
| 19:49.54 | JeffM | so realy they have no biz being on freenode, since they arn't an open source project, or about an open source project |
| 19:50.38 | JeffM | and most of those logs are just join and parts..... looks like a dead channel |
| 19:50.55 | TimRiker | google for: irclog2html creativeforum wordpress |
| 19:52.09 | TimRiker | yep. mostly joins and parts. |
| 19:52.17 | JeffM | and totaly EMPTY days |
| 19:52.25 | TimRiker | eek! now you can calculate when all those people were online. |
| 19:52.36 | JeffM | the server tracks that anyway |
| 19:53.09 | JeffM | I wonder if freenodes costs would go down if they got hardball on channels not direclty tied to projects |
| 19:54.35 | findlay | probably |
| 19:54.46 | brad | freenode doesn't pay for the servers... sponsors do |
| 19:54.59 | JeffM | freenode itself has costs |
| 19:55.07 | findlay | and then ChanServ would monitor everybody's speech to validate that it's freenode-approved :) |
| 19:55.15 | JeffM | and with less channels/users it would not need as many sponsored servers |
| 19:55.21 | JeffM | or could put those donated services to other uses |
| 19:55.43 | JeffM | findlay, no just make chanser ask what project your attacked to, on sf or elsewhere |
| 19:56.06 | JeffM | you could make it do more to promote the projectness of it |
| 19:56.53 | findlay | I think the idea is to be not restrictive, kind of like the intertubes itself |
| 19:57.40 | JeffM | the internet is not free ;) |
| 19:57.56 | JeffM | and the sponsors donated the servers FOR a reason |
| 19:58.21 | Chestal | it's hard to decide which channel fits in and which doesn't, though |
| 19:58.22 | findlay | I didn't say free, I meant not restricted |
| 19:58.45 | Chestal | a lot of channels ar enot tied to a spcific project, but are still usefull for the community |
| 19:59.09 | JeffM | the internet is restricted, as each server on it determents wht it can and can not do :) |
| 19:59.18 | JeffM | Chestal, yes for the general ones, you'd get admin aproval |
| 19:59.31 | JeffM | I don't mean a hard limit to SF or antyhing |
| 19:59.40 | JeffM | just a crakdown on obvious ones. |
| 19:59.56 | Winny | what about ##essy? :o |
| 20:00.13 | JeffM | I've made my statements about that channel |
| 20:00.31 | JeffM | I don't feel it should be part of the network |
| 20:01.02 | JeffM | it's at the edge of an "About" channel |
| 20:01.11 | JeffM | tied to bzflag by the thinest threads. |
| 20:01.24 | findlay | #cars is a fun channel :) |
| 20:01.31 | JeffM | I know why it continues to exist, I don't agree with it. but I know why. |
| 20:01.41 | findlay | definitely *outside* freenode's ostensible prupose |
| 20:01.47 | findlay | s/pru/pur/ |
| 20:01.57 | JeffM | but it's the admins choice to allow the general chats |
| 20:02.11 | JeffM | if they don't affect cost, or performance, or take up any resouces, sure why not leave them |
| 20:02.12 | findlay | but I've gotten good help there |
| 20:02.28 | Winny | as have I |
| 20:02.36 | JeffM | but when there memebers start taking time out from real projects for incredebly trivial requrests....... |
| 20:03.09 | JeffM | essy probalby has 0 cost to the network |
| 20:03.21 | JeffM | so the impact of it's existance is minimal |
| 20:14.36 | *** join/#bzflag jftsang (n=jftsang@ACC8E2B4.ipt.aol.com) |
| 20:14.45 | jftsang | hi |
| 20:15.04 | jftsang | whats wrong with this: |
| 20:15.09 | jftsang | teleporter |
| 20:15.10 | jftsang | name LowerDeckG |
| 20:15.12 | jftsang | position -1000 0 220 |
| 20:15.14 | jftsang | rotation 90 |
| 20:15.15 | jftsang | size 0.125 10 10 |
| 20:15.17 | jftsang | border 1 |
| 20:15.18 | jftsang | end |
| 20:15.20 | jftsang | |
| 20:15.21 | jftsang | teleporter |
| 20:15.23 | jftsang | name UpperDeckG |
| 20:15.24 | jftsang | position -1000 0 250 |
| 20:15.26 | jftsang | rotation 90 |
| 20:15.27 | jftsang | size 0.125 10 10 |
| 20:15.28 | brad | pastebin... |
| 20:15.29 | jftsang | border 1 |
| 20:15.30 | jftsang | end |
| 20:15.32 | jftsang | |
| 20:15.33 | jftsang | link |
| 20:15.35 | jftsang | from LowerDeckG:f |
| 20:15.36 | jftsang | to UpperDeckG:f |
| 20:15.38 | jftsang | end |
| 20:15.40 | jftsang | link |
| 20:15.42 | jftsang | from UpperDeckG:f |
| 20:15.42 | brad | ~bzpastebin |
| 20:15.43 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, bzpastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel, and it archives too. - try http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/ |
| 20:15.43 | JeffM | dude |
| 20:15.44 | jftsang | to LowerDeckG:f |
| 20:15.46 | jftsang | end |
| 20:15.48 | jftsang | it wont let me teleport |
| 20:15.52 | jftsang | ? |
| 20:15.54 | jftsang | sorry |
| 20:15.57 | JeffM | don't paste that long |
| 20:16.05 | JeffM | put it in a pastebin file or something |
| 20:16.29 | JeffM | your Z is off the ground |
| 20:16.37 | jftsang | i know |
| 20:16.39 | jftsang | its on a ship |
| 20:16.43 | JeffM | there is an object up that high to drive on? |
| 20:16.49 | jftsang | yes |
| 20:16.53 | JeffM | what is the z of the surface under it? |
| 20:16.56 | JeffM | the same number? |
| 20:17.04 | JeffM | 250? |
| 20:17.05 | jftsang | yh |
| 20:17.16 | JeffM | make them overlap a small bit |
| 20:17.24 | jftsang | and then? |
| 20:17.28 | JeffM | well can you port if you jump thru? |
| 20:17.33 | jftsang | no |
| 20:17.49 | jftsang | cant port whatsoever |
| 20:18.40 | JeffM | dunno |
| 20:19.07 | jftsang | wheres louman when u need him? |
| 20:19.20 | donny_baker | hiding :) |
| 20:19.33 | Tedius | isn't there something buggy about teleporting onto meshboxes? |
| 20:19.40 | Tedius | or meshes? |
| 20:19.52 | jftsang | ? |
| 20:19.58 | brad | that's boxes to meshes I think |
| 20:20.08 | jftsang | both of them should be boxes |
| 20:20.13 | jftsang | no meshes here :) |
| 20:21.44 | JeffM | if it was something with the thing it's on, you'd still port when you jump thru |
| 20:22.00 | JeffM | I've never done named links, so all I can think of is that the fomrat of the links is wrong |
| 20:22.04 | JeffM | try it with numbered links |
| 20:22.07 | JeffM | in a simple test |
| 20:22.31 | Tedius | pm it to me jftsang, I'll look at it |
| 20:23.01 | jftsang | ok |
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| 20:43.41 | jude- | hello all |
| 20:43.47 | Winny | ~heyjude |
| 20:43.48 | ibot | Hey, Jude-, go ahead and make it bad. |
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| 20:56.25 | blast007 | hi jude- |
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| 21:32.35 | Winny | test |
| 21:32.46 | Winny | hmm, weird, can't see my chats in another channel |
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| 23:13.13 | nn-gentoo | hi all made the Advanced Tank pillbox better |
| 23:13.41 | Winny | #whocares |
| 23:14.49 | findlay | ~wiki whocares |
| 23:15.13 | nn-gentoo | oh |
| 23:23.44 | blast007 | Winny: I think you mean #nobodycares |
| 23:24.20 | Winny | noone in #whocares ;) |
| 23:26.25 | blast007 | Winny: that's because #nobodycares |
| 23:27.13 | Winny | #ok |
| 23:41.17 | TASAIRES | Good Bye, Good Night, i Leave |
| 23:41.20 | TASAIRES | Bye Bye |
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| 23:47.47 | Macrosoft | cout<<"ping"; |
| 23:50.28 | Macrosoft | error in main(): you_suck error in line 5 |
| 23:52.16 | JeffM | ummm.. wtf? |
| 23:56.01 | Macrosoft | error: "wtf" not defined (first use in this function) |
| 23:56.14 | JeffM | this isn't a channel for babble |
| 23:56.20 | JeffM | why do you keep doing this? |
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