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| 00:02.13 | brlcad | GPx01 is about 23k lines |
| 00:02.21 | brlcad | of source |
| 00:13.25 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14352 10/branches/ftgl/src/other/freetype/autogen.sh: force isn't necessarily a valid aclocal option.. crummy script |
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| 00:22.10 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14353 10/branches/ftgl/src/other/freetype/builds/unix/ (aclocal.m4 ftconfig.in): yuck, can't update |
| 00:27.08 | Macrosoft | this is going to take a while... 101 package dependencies to install :( |
| 00:27.23 | Macrosoft | crap |
| 00:28.00 | Winny | hehe |
| 00:28.06 | Winny | ~coffe Macrosoft |
| 00:28.08 | Winny | er |
| 00:28.10 | Winny | ~coffee Macrosoft |
| 00:28.11 | ibot | ACTION steals some of Epyon's special coffee and gives it to Macrosoft on a silver platter. |
| 00:28.44 | Macrosoft | 30/101 so far |
| 00:29.05 | Macrosoft | all of this just to install kdevelop |
| 00:29.32 | tannerld | eclipse? |
| 00:29.45 | Macrosoft | no, its kdevelop |
| 00:30.00 | tannerld | i know that, try eclipse |
| 00:30.28 | Macrosoft | why? |
| 00:31.07 | tannerld | why not? |
| 00:31.41 | Macrosoft | whats so good about eclipse |
| 00:31.42 | Macrosoft | ? |
| 00:32.04 | Macrosoft | 38/101 |
| 00:33.56 | Macrosoft | 47/101 so far |
| 00:35.06 | Winny | tell #whocares |
| 00:35.23 | Macrosoft | ~kill Winny |
| 00:35.24 | ibot | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged neutrino gun at Winny |
| 00:35.53 | tannerld | ~revive Winny |
| 00:35.53 | ibot | ACTION performs the Heimlich, mouth-to-mouth, shock treatment and anything else necessary to revive Winny |
| 00:35.57 | tannerld | ~protect Winny and tannerld |
| 00:35.58 | ibot | ACTION sees a grenade rolling toward Winny and tannerld, and leaps onto it. |
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| 00:36.15 | Macrosoft | ~die |
| 00:36.15 | ibot | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 00:36.35 | tannerld | ~revive ibot |
| 00:36.35 | ibot | ACTION performs the Heimlich, mouth-to-mouth, shock treatment and anything else necessary to revive ibot |
| 00:36.41 | Macrosoft | ~live and eat brains |
| 00:36.51 | Macrosoft | ~live |
| 00:36.51 | ibot | ACTION rises from the dead and starts eating people. |
| 00:36.55 | Winny | :p |
| 00:37.00 | Winny | ~botabuse |
| 00:37.01 | ibot | rumour has it, botabuse is fun |
| 00:37.04 | Winny | ... |
| 00:37.06 | Winny | damn |
| 00:37.11 | Macrosoft | :) |
| 00:37.14 | Winny | ~Winny |
| 00:37.15 | ibot | [winny] in a mental institution right now, please leave a message after the beep. *beep* |
| 00:37.22 | Winny | ok, my bot for the day |
| 00:37.37 | Winny | bot/botsbuse |
| 00:37.41 | Macrosoft | how do you set up those messages |
| 00:48.12 | Winny | oh dear |
| 00:48.25 | Winny | chicken fingers has found the bunny pancake picture |
| 00:48.42 | tannerld | and posted it? |
| 00:48.46 | Winny | 3 times :X |
| 00:48.55 | tannerld | one topic? |
| 00:49.17 | Winny | no, in someone elses sig thread |
| 00:49.19 | Winny | meh |
| 00:56.32 | brlcad | JeffM: any particular reason you renamed it COSFile? |
| 01:06.39 | blast007 | Winny: I cleaned out some of his posts on that thread |
| 01:06.54 | Winny | :p |
| 01:07.06 | tannerld | ~blast007++ |
| 01:07.40 | blast007 | all he was doing was downloading crap and attaching it |
| 01:07.53 | blast007 | I left the first three he did, since at least it looks like it was custom done |
| 01:08.47 | Winny | no, peter did that for him |
| 01:11.28 | JeffM | brlcad, MFCness :) |
| 01:11.33 | JeffM | that's it's origonal name |
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| 01:11.41 | JeffM | naming it OSFile is fine |
| 01:11.43 | JeffM | or whatever |
| 01:11.53 | JeffM | I've been broken of the hungarian |
| 01:11.56 | JeffM | mostly |
| 01:17.13 | blast007 | WinnyAFK: right, which is still custom |
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| 01:17.26 | blast007 | it wasn't just something he grabbed off google images ;) |
| 01:19.59 | WinnyAFK | oh, k |
| 01:20.34 | WinnyAFK | thoguth you meant as in made by him |
| 01:20.34 | WinnyAFK | thought* |
| 01:22.33 | TD-Linux | Winny, he has squashed the sacred bunny |
| 01:22.34 | TD-Linux | ! |
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| 01:25.11 | brlcad | hehe.. broken of hungarian |
| 01:25.18 | brlcad | crazy |
| 01:26.59 | blast007 | hmm, guess I'm not quite sure what kind of callsign restrictions to use |
| 01:27.10 | blast007 | the ones in the old list server don't match the client |
| 01:27.53 | brlcad | there were artificial limits in the old list server because of phpbb |
| 01:27.59 | blast007 | hmm |
| 01:28.01 | blast007 | k |
| 01:28.14 | blast007 | so I guess I should go by those |
| 01:29.01 | brlcad | erh, I wouldn't .. it was mostly tim taking the easy road |
| 01:29.20 | brlcad | how's it different now? |
| 01:29.21 | blast007 | right, but do we want this to still work with phpBB? |
| 01:29.58 | blast007 | old list server only allows space, hyphen, underscore, period, a-z, A-Z, and 0-9 |
| 01:30.52 | brlcad | i meant direct encoding, decoding .. you created accounts using phpbb so it was already limited via phpbb user names |
| 01:31.17 | blast007 | I'm not sure of phpBB's limitations in regards to usernames |
| 01:32.01 | brlcad | what's really needed is proper profile management where you have a real name, a user name, and associated callsign(s) |
| 01:32.21 | blast007 | already planning on that |
| 01:32.23 | brlcad | username being a strictly limited account name for purposes like bzbb |
| 01:32.23 | blast007 | :) |
| 01:32.33 | brlcad | but then callsigns really being anything |
| 01:33.02 | blast007 | I could probably even make 2.0.x be able to use those other callsigns |
| 01:33.05 | brlcad | anything that can be typed into the client, that is .. which is what you said earlier |
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| 01:55.20 | nn-gentoo | hi I mentioned it on the forems and now have a testing version someone join me on pilbox one on bzflaghosting.info |
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| 01:57.47 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/Makefile.osx: update to compile, new system |
| 01:57.50 | jude- | finally! my connection's back up |
| 02:01.30 | a_temp_dist | did you start having withdrawal shakes? |
| 02:01.41 | jude- | yes |
| 02:03.00 | WinnyAFK | hey jude- |
| 02:03.06 | tannerld | lol |
| 02:03.08 | tannerld | ~jude-++ |
| 02:03.11 | tannerld | hi jude |
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| 02:04.33 | Winny | I just kick butt |
| 02:04.43 | Winny | 3rd time today Ive done that |
| 02:04.48 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/client/src/game.cpp: ws |
| 02:06.01 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/client/src/simpleGameHUD.cpp: drawString no longer computes the width by default for performance, ask for the width on demand |
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| 02:29.45 | nn-gentoo | weel that was a good test but still looking for textures; good night |
| 02:30.04 | nn-gentoo | ps field pilbox 1 ( Testing ) |
| 02:30.37 | nn-gentoo | good night |
| 02:31.36 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/3d/ (inc/fonts.h src/fonts.cpp): |
| 02:31.36 | CIA-3 | opencombat: reworked fonts so that there's now a routine to rebuild the fonts on demand if |
| 02:31.37 | CIA-3 | opencombat: necessary (e.g. during context rebuilding), also make drawString not |
| 02:31.37 | CIA-3 | opencombat: compute/return the string width since it's rarely needed (lil performance |
| 02:31.37 | CIA-3 | opencombat: boost), and add a routine to get the font height as well. during the whole |
| 02:31.39 | CIA-3 | opencombat: process, plugged a big leak and fixed a corruption issue in a routines related |
| 02:31.41 | CIA-3 | opencombat: to loading/prebuilding too. |
| 02:32.27 | tannerld | ~brlcad++ |
| 02:32.42 | tannerld | just for long log messages |
| 02:33.03 | brlcad | heh |
| 02:34.05 | brlcad | now to merge that font manager with bz's .. *shudder!* |
| 02:34.14 | Winny | run! |
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| 02:43.32 | JeffM | danke, brlcad |
| 02:46.20 | brlcad | JeffM: got it all up and compiled again too, weee |
| 02:46.24 | brlcad | no textures though |
| 02:46.33 | brlcad | something's wrong with the data loading |
| 02:48.04 | JeffM | IIRC there wer problems with devil |
| 02:48.13 | JeffM | so I wrote a png loader that uses libpng |
| 02:48.19 | JeffM | you could install an apple one if you wanted |
| 02:48.29 | JeffM | the file loaders are modular now |
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| 02:49.28 | ZaphodBeeblebrox | greetings. just installed bz flag here but I'm having a - kinda - funny problem: My tank keeps going backwards like if the rear gear was on... can anyone help? |
| 02:50.55 | DTRemenak | there are three ways to control your tank. mouse, keyboard, and joystick. |
| 02:51.10 | DTRemenak | if your mouse pointer is near the bottom of the screen you will go backwards (move it up to go forwards) |
| 02:51.26 | DTRemenak | if your down arrow key is pressed, you will go backwards |
| 02:51.38 | DTRemenak | or if your joystick is miscalibrated or held backwards, you will go backwards |
| 02:51.50 | ZaphodBeeblebrox | hmm, undersood. |
| 02:51.54 | ZaphodBeeblebrox | let me check. |
| 02:51.57 | DTRemenak | hope one of those helps :) |
| 02:51.58 | ZaphodBeeblebrox | brb |
| 02:52.02 | ZaphodBeeblebrox | Me too! :D |
| 02:53.57 | ZaphodBeeblebrox | lol, no not THAT dumb, thanks =) |
| 02:54.15 | brlcad | no, i meant mine (: |
| 02:54.26 | ZaphodBeeblebrox | oh lol |
| 02:54.29 | ZaphodBeeblebrox | sorry |
| 02:54.47 | ZaphodBeeblebrox | DTRemenak: I was looking at the configs now, but suddenly another problem came up: when I go to map the keys the text is blurred |
| 02:54.58 | ZaphodBeeblebrox | It wasn't hapening before |
| 02:56.00 | DTRemenak | blurred? |
| 02:56.24 | ZaphodBeeblebrox | hm never mind, weird, I restarted and evrything was fine |
| 02:56.52 | DTRemenak | 'tis possible your video drivers didn't care for our minimize/restore stuff |
| 02:56.55 | ZaphodBeeblebrox | Anyways I was thinking if my problem with the rear thing (since I dont use joystick) could be the "active device" thingy |
| 02:57.04 | DTRemenak | could be |
| 02:57.16 | DTRemenak | set it to whatever you actually want to use to drive, and that'll solve that :) |
| 02:57.18 | ZaphodBeeblebrox | yeah, probably, Ubuntu + Nvidia here, so you do the math :) |
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| 04:22.31 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || http://my.bzflag.org/w/ || http://my.bzflag.org/w/Google_Summer_of_Code#Program_Evaluation || http://sourceforge.net/awards/cca/nomination.php?group_id=3248&from=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fbzflag |
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| 04:22.35 | WinnySleeping | yay! |
| 04:22.43 | a_meteorite | ~wb |
| 04:22.44 | ibot | It's great to be back! |
| 04:22.47 | WinnySleeping | ~woot |
| 04:22.48 | ibot | i guess woot is an ANU student and programmer, and a bastard that doesn't realize the bot is in numerous channels, not just his. |
| 04:23.03 | WinnySleeping | ... |
| 04:23.38 | WinnySleeping | that was... underwhelming |
| 04:23.44 | jude- | ~w00t |
| 04:23.45 | ibot | w00t!!! |
| 04:23.47 | a_meteorite | affirmative |
| 04:23.51 | a_meteorite | soda time.. |
| 04:24.06 | jude- | there we go :) |
| 04:24.09 | jude- | ~botsnack |
| 04:24.09 | ibot | jude-: :) |
| 04:24.31 | WinnySleeping | ~jude- |
| 04:24.44 | jude- | I'm not sure ibot has enough data on me... |
| 04:24.55 | jude- | ~Winny |
| 04:24.56 | ibot | i heard winny is in a mental institution right now, please leave a message after the beep. *beep* |
| 04:25.14 | jude- | rofl |
| 04:25.20 | Pumpernickel | ^^ |
| 04:26.26 | WinnySleeping | ~jude- |
| 04:26.27 | jude- | ibot listens in on channels for affermative and declarative statements to gather information on key words, IIRC |
| 04:26.35 | WinnySleeping | eh? |
| 04:26.46 | jude- | ~ibot |
| 04:26.46 | ibot | ibot is, like, a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 04:26.59 | DTRemenak | jude-: correct. most channels he does not implicitly learn |
| 04:27.05 | WinnySleeping | hmm, Ill be evil |
| 04:27.05 | DTRemenak | so you actually have to tell him what to remember |
| 04:27.15 | WinnySleeping | ~jude- is <action> sings: Hey jude! Don't make it bad!... |
| 04:27.16 | ibot | WinnySleeping: okay |
| 04:27.20 | WinnySleeping | ~jude- |
| 04:27.21 | ibot | ACTION sings: Hey jude! Don't make it bad!... |
| 04:27.24 | WinnySleeping | :p |
| 04:27.34 | jude- | lol |
| 04:27.51 | WinnySleeping | ~stop jude- |
| 04:27.51 | ibot | ACTION leaps to his feet and stops jude- |
| 04:28.00 | WinnySleeping | phew |
| 04:28.10 | jude- | how predictable |
| 04:28.36 | jude- | WinnySleeping: you have to sleep sometime... :) |
| 04:28.43 | WinnySleeping | indeed |
| 04:28.54 | jude- | let me rephrase that: |
| 04:29.04 | jude- | WinnySleeping: you'll have to fall asleep *sometime*... |
| 04:29.12 | WinnySleeping | I don't sleep |
| 04:29.22 | WinnySleeping | I go into standby mode |
| 04:29.38 | jude- | as long as you aren't in ACPI state 1 |
| 04:29.41 | DTRemenak | ibot: no, jude- is an all around great guy who's working on BZWorkbench as his Google Summer of Code project for BZFlag. see also #bzflag or http://bzworkbench.wordpress.com/ |
| 04:29.42 | ibot | okay, DTRemenak |
| 04:29.49 | WinnySleeping | :) |
| 04:29.57 | jude- | heh. Thanks DTRemenak :) |
| 04:30.04 | a_meteorite | be nice, don't like to ibot |
| 04:30.09 | WinnySleeping | hmm, ok |
| 04:30.11 | a_meteorite | *lie |
| 04:30.21 | a_meteorite | erm that signals my tiredness |
| 04:30.35 | WinnySleeping | ~heyjude is Hey, Jude, don't make it bad |
| 04:30.35 | ibot | WinnySleeping: okay |
| 04:30.35 | WinnySleeping | ... Take a sad song and make it better |
| 04:30.39 | WinnySleeping | yay |
| 04:30.44 | WinnySleeping | now we're all happy |
| 04:30.47 | jude- | lol |
| 04:31.13 | jude- | ~heyjude |
| 04:31.14 | ibot | rumour has it, heyjude is Hey, Jude, don't make it bad |
| 04:31.21 | jude- | there ya go :) |
| 04:31.21 | WinnySleeping | oh dear |
| 04:31.26 | DTRemenak | ~jude- |
| 04:31.27 | ibot | jude- is, like, an all around great guy who's working on BZWorkbench as his Google Summer of Code project for BZFlag. see also #bzflag or http://bzworkbench.wordpress.com/ |
| 04:31.33 | DTRemenak | woot |
| 04:31.36 | jude- | yay |
| 04:31.40 | WinnySleeping | ~DTRemenak |
| 04:31.40 | ibot | There ARE FOUR LIGHTS! |
| 04:31.45 | a_meteorite | jude-: wondering, before I check it out, does BZWB have any GUI currently? in a working state? |
| 04:31.46 | WinnySleeping | ...I see |
| 04:31.57 | jude- | a_meteorite: no GUI yet...working on that as we speak :) |
| 04:32.08 | a_meteorite | ibot can see through lies! |
| 04:32.10 | jude- | it *can* parse BZW files, though |
| 04:32.11 | DTRemenak | WinnySleeping: it's randomized, you should get a different response each time (a few times anyway, dunno how many I added) |
| 04:32.11 | a_meteorite | heh, just kidding :) |
| 04:32.17 | jude- | ...except for "define" |
| 04:32.18 | WinnySleeping | ahh |
| 04:32.21 | WinnySleeping | ~DTRemenak |
| 04:32.22 | ibot | There ARE FOUR LIGHTS! |
| 04:32.25 | WinnySleeping | ... |
| 04:32.48 | DTRemenak | or perhaps it's broken :) |
| 04:32.59 | WinnySleeping | I pick door #2 |
| 04:33.06 | DTRemenak | ~DTRemenak |
| 04:33.07 | ibot | There ARE FOUR LIGHTS! |
| 04:33.10 | DTRemenak | pft |
| 04:33.15 | WinnySleeping | yes, yes there are |
| 04:33.30 | jude- | ~DTRemenak |
| 04:33.31 | ibot | Shaka, when the walls fell |
| 04:33.49 | DTRemenak | hey, it remembered another one (bout time, that one was getting old :) ) |
| 04:34.02 | jude- | lol |
| 04:34.19 | WinnySleeping | hmm, I have an idea |
| 04:34.38 | WinnySleeping | we should have all the GeeSock people post on one dev blog... |
| 04:34.52 | WinnySleeping | GeeSock/GSoC |
| 04:35.07 | DTRemenak | WinnySleeping: http://planet-soc.com/ aggregates all they know about |
| 04:35.14 | DTRemenak | dunno if ours are on there or not |
| 04:35.39 | WinnySleeping | I mean as in, just one WP blog for bz |
| 04:36.08 | jude- | mine is: http://planet-soc.com/node/440 |
| 04:37.12 | Macrosoft | hey, when did ibot come back? |
| 04:37.22 | WinnyRlySleeping | long ago |
| 04:37.30 | WinnyRlySleeping | when dinosaurs roamed the earth |
| 04:37.32 | a_meteorite | you're not rlysleeping |
| 04:37.51 | WinnyRlySleeping | i know |
| 04:37.56 | WinnyRlySleeping | IRC is too damn addictive |
| 04:38.04 | a_meteorite | lies! all lies! |
| 04:38.12 | Macrosoft | ~Macrosoft is insane... you should stay away from him |
| 04:38.13 | ibot | Macrosoft: okay |
| 04:38.22 | Macrosoft | ~Macrosoft |
| 04:38.23 | ibot | [macrosoft] insane... you should stay away from him |
| 04:39.31 | Macrosoft | ~Macrosoft is <action> say Macrosoft is insane... you should stay away from him |
| 04:39.32 | ibot | ...but macrosoft is already something else... |
| 04:39.44 | jude- | lol |
| 04:39.49 | Macrosoft | crap |
| 04:39.56 | Macrosoft | how do i change it now? |
| 04:40.07 | menotume | ~macrosoft |
| 04:40.08 | ibot | somebody said macrosoft was insane... you should stay away from him |
| 04:40.23 | Macrosoft | eh, close enough |
| 04:40.32 | menotume | ~no Macrosoft is <action> say Macrosoft is insane... you should stay away from him |
| 04:40.33 | ibot | menotume: okay |
| 04:40.35 | menotume | ~macrosoft |
| 04:40.36 | ibot | ACTION say Macrosoft is insane... you should stay away from him |
| 04:40.45 | menotume | ~macrosoft Macrosoft |
| 04:41.06 | menotume | ~macrosoft |
| 04:41.07 | ibot | ACTION say Macrosoft is insane... you should stay away from him |
| 04:41.16 | Macrosoft | ha, it still refuses to work right |
| 04:41.19 | WinnyRlySleeping | gosh darnit |
| 04:41.30 | WinnyRlySleeping | why did I get a computer with 1000 LEDs in it |
| 04:41.46 | WinnyRlySleeping | its like theres a freaking spaceship in my room |
| 04:41.51 | jude- | WinnyRlySleeping: count them like sheep and you'll be asleep in no time :) |
| 04:42.15 | Macrosoft | ibot: no, Macrosoft is say Macrosoft is insane... you should stay away from him |
| 04:42.15 | ibot | okay, Macrosoft |
| 04:42.25 | Macrosoft | ~Macrosoft |
| 04:42.25 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, macrosoft is say Macrosoft is insane... you should stay away from him |
| 04:42.33 | WinnyRlySleeping | rofl |
| 04:42.36 | Macrosoft | crap |
| 04:42.37 | jude- | lol |
| 04:42.43 | WinnyRlySleeping | ~forget Macrosoft |
| 04:42.43 | ibot | WinnyRlySleeping: i forgot macrosoft |
| 04:42.49 | WinnyRlySleeping | try now |
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| 04:43.20 | Macrosoft | ~Macrosoft is <action> say Macrosoft is insane... you should stay away from him |
| 04:43.21 | ibot | okay, Macrosoft |
| 04:43.26 | Macrosoft | ~Macrosoft |
| 04:43.27 | ibot | ACTION say Macrosoft is insane... you should stay away from him |
| 04:43.33 | Macrosoft | ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! |
| 04:43.37 | WinnyRlySleeping | haha |
| 04:43.39 | a_meteorite | ... |
| 04:43.40 | jude- | rofl |
| 04:43.51 | Macrosoft | ~forget me |
| 04:43.51 | ibot | i didn't have anything called 'me' to forget, Macrosoft |
| 04:43.55 | WinnyRlyRlySleep | :p |
| 04:44.08 | a_meteorite | ibot: no, Macrosoft is <reply> Macrosoft is insane... you should really stay away from him |
| 04:44.08 | ibot | a_meteorite: okay |
| 04:44.09 | Macrosoft | ~forget |
| 04:44.11 | a_meteorite | ~Macrosoft |
| 04:44.12 | ibot | Macrosoft is insane... you should really stay away from him |
| 04:44.33 | Macrosoft | oh, now it decides to work |
| 04:44.39 | a_meteorite | no, you added "say" |
| 04:44.50 | a_meteorite | and <reply> and <action> are different :P |
| 04:44.57 | Macrosoft | oh |
| 04:45.11 | WinnySleeping | ok, leaving |
| 04:45.14 | a_meteorite | ibot: Macrosoft $1 is <action> uses Macrosoft's skillz to bonk $1 over thead |
| 04:45.14 | ibot | okay, a_meteorite |
| 04:45.18 | a_meteorite | ~Macrosoft a_meteorite |
| 04:45.19 | ibot | ACTION uses Macrosoft's skillz to bonk a_meteorite over thead |
| 04:45.19 | WinnySleeping | not going to seal an more sleep |
| 04:45.29 | WinnySleeping | steal, anymore* |
| 04:45.34 | a_meteorite | er, I can't type |
| 04:45.37 | a_meteorite | *over the head |
| 04:45.44 | a_meteorite | ibot: no, Macrosoft $1 is <action> uses Macrosoft's skillz to bonk $1 over the head |
| 04:45.45 | ibot | okay, a_meteorite |
| 04:45.56 | Macrosoft | ~a_meteorite is <reply> a_meteorite is a cool guy because he helps idiots like Macrosoft |
| 04:45.57 | ibot | ...but a_meteorite is already something else... |
| 04:46.05 | a_meteorite | don't mess with it |
| 04:46.07 | a_meteorite | ~a_meteorite |
| 04:46.08 | ibot | a_meteorite does many cool things, including maintaining BZFX and haunting the BZBB. He also does C++ and PHP on the side. |
| 04:46.14 | lodxcol | ~lodxcol |
| 04:46.26 | Macrosoft | ha, you dont exist |
| 04:46.30 | lodxcol | :( |
| 04:47.06 | jude- | ~lodxcol is <action> the maintainer of one of the coolest maps in the BZFlag universe |
| 04:47.07 | ibot | jude-: okay |
| 04:47.18 | Macrosoft | ~lodxcol is <reply> lodxcol doesn't exist |
| 04:47.19 | ibot | ...but lodxcol is already something else... |
| 04:47.24 | lodxcol | ~lodxcol |
| 04:47.25 | ibot | ACTION the maintainer of one of the coolest maps in the BZFlag universe |
| 04:47.25 | jude- | lol |
| 04:47.29 | lodxcol | lol |
| 04:48.04 | jude- | ~no lodxcol is <say> the maintainer of one of the coolest maps in the BZFlag universe |
| 04:48.04 | ibot | okay, jude- |
| 04:48.10 | jude- | ~lodxcol |
| 04:48.11 | ibot | methinks lodxcol is <say> the maintainer of one of the coolest maps in the BZFlag universe |
| 04:48.19 | jude- | crap |
| 04:48.24 | blast007 | <reply> |
| 04:48.29 | jude- | ~no lodxcol is <reply> the maintainer of one of the coolest maps in the BZFlag universe |
| 04:48.30 | ibot | jude-: okay |
| 04:48.33 | jude- | ~lodxcol |
| 04:48.34 | ibot | the maintainer of one of the coolest maps in the BZFlag universe |
| 04:48.34 | Macrosoft | ~Missile_war is <reply> Missile war is the coolest map ever!! |
| 04:48.34 | ibot | Macrosoft: okay |
| 04:48.40 | blast007 | or not |
| 04:48.52 | Macrosoft | heh |
| 04:48.59 | Macrosoft | ~Missile_war |
| 04:48.59 | ibot | Missile war is the coolest map ever!! |
| 04:49.07 | Macrosoft | yay it worked |
| 04:49.41 | jude- | ~Macrosoft |
| 04:49.41 | ibot | Macrosoft is insane... you should really stay away from him |
| 04:50.28 | lodxcol | ~jude- |
| 04:50.28 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, jude- is an all around great guy who's working on BZWorkbench as his Google Summer of Code project for BZFlag. see also #bzflag or http://bzworkbench.wordpress.com/ |
| 04:50.34 | Macrosoft | ~Microsoft office is <action> uses microsoft office to wipe his butt |
| 04:50.34 | ibot | okay, Macrosoft |
| 04:50.44 | Macrosoft | ha |
| 04:50.57 | Macrosoft | ~Microsoft office |
| 04:50.58 | ibot | ACTION uses microsoft office to wipe his butt |
| 04:51.02 | DTRemenak | Macrosoft: please don't abuse the bot in here |
| 04:51.10 | Macrosoft | sry |
| 04:51.24 | Macrosoft | ~forget Microsoft office |
| 04:51.24 | ibot | i forgot microsoft office, Macrosoft |
| 04:51.49 | DTRemenak | #botpark exists for a reason |
| 04:51.54 | a_meteorite | ... |
| 04:52.03 | a_meteorite | spammage, anyone? |
| 04:52.52 | jude- | ~spam |
| 04:52.52 | ibot | ACTION sings, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Wonderfull spam! |
| 04:53.04 | jude- | there we go :) |
| 04:54.07 | Macrosoft | ~bzrobots page |
| 04:54.28 | JeffM | dude use the bot in a /msg |
| 04:54.33 | JeffM | we don't need to see all your queries |
| 04:56.14 | jude- | design choice in BZWB: |
| 04:56.26 | jude- | will there be any objections to a multi-windowed approach? |
| 04:56.34 | jude- | i.e. GIMP-ish |
| 04:57.01 | jude- | i.e. DreamWeaver-ish |
| 04:57.03 | purple_cow | give us more detail |
| 04:57.12 | purple_cow | what goes in each window? |
| 04:57.16 | jude- | one window with the OpenGL contect for rendering... |
| 04:57.23 | Macrosoft | what about blender-esque gui? |
| 04:57.26 | jude- | one window with a text console for messages |
| 04:57.32 | jude- | one window with tools |
| 04:57.42 | jude- | (i.e. add pyramid, add box, add mesh, etc.) |
| 04:58.50 | jude- | does anyone see a reason *not* to do that? |
| 04:59.19 | jude- | s/contect/context |
| 04:59.21 | purple_cow | well, multiple windows is kind of a pain to arrange on-screen |
| 04:59.22 | Macrosoft | sounds like it should work very well with multi-monitor set ups |
| 04:59.41 | jude- | purple_cow: FLTK lets me control window placement...I can pre-arrange them |
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| 05:00.02 | jude- | it's also a boon to those with limited screen real-estate |
| 05:00.09 | purple_cow | well, perhaps |
| 05:00.09 | jude- | i.e. minimize the things you don't need |
| 05:00.21 | purple_cow | arranging them on-screen is the biggest complaint I hear about applications like that |
| 05:00.39 | jude- | okay...no pre-arranging :) |
| 05:00.42 | purple_cow | since they never seem to quite fit well |
| 05:00.45 | jude- | or configurable pre-arranging :) |
| 05:00.52 | purple_cow | (if they did fit, they'd go into a single window easily) |
| 05:01.25 | purple_cow | ok, couple questions |
| 05:01.30 | purple_cow | what "messages" do you have |
| 05:01.39 | purple_cow | do you have any tools other than "add ..." ? |
| 05:02.34 | jude- | 1. the Model and parser, for example, can output error messages or exceptions if they encounter something mal-formatted or undefined, and present it to the user to correct |
| 05:02.47 | jude- | 2. yes, there will be other tools |
| 05:03.04 | jude- | (I haven't even created the multi-windowed approach yet--I'm just asking for input before I do it :) ) |
| 05:04.07 | jude- | also, going back to (1), it can output debugging info and status of BZWB |
| 05:04.15 | jude- | (that will be temporary, obviously) |
| 05:04.26 | purple_cow | ok, for errors, I'd suggest using a dialog |
| 05:04.58 | purple_cow | a messages window when it's built in "debug" mode seems fine, but it doesn't sound like a good end-user facing feature |
| 05:05.12 | purple_cow | if there's more than one you can collect them into a single error report |
| 05:05.34 | DTRemenak | and how is that different than a messages window, other than that you can't copy and paste out of it? |
| 05:05.46 | purple_cow | well, maybe it is a "messages" window |
| 05:05.57 | purple_cow | but it's not something you want to keep on screen all the time |
| 05:06.21 | jude- | purple_cow: what will eventually happen is there will be a separate error dialog box that will present the user with the mal-formatted chunk of BZW text with the conflicting line high-lighted |
| 05:06.24 | purple_cow | it's something you want to pop up to alert you that something has happened that you don't expect, and be out of your way the rest of the time |
| 05:06.25 | DTRemenak | true enough, but I'd both A) not want it to be modal and B) want to be able to interact with it :) |
| 05:06.29 | brlcad | i don't have a strong preference myself as both can work, but "usually" a single-window approach would be my pref -- often lends itself more to better thought out interface design and removes issues that many WIMP apps suffer from |
| 05:07.13 | DTRemenak | as far as whether one window or multiple windows is better, I like one, but no particularly strong preference |
| 05:07.18 | purple_cow | jude-: I suggest you skim through the apple or gnome HIGs at some point |
| 05:07.22 | brlcad | having a console or a command console is slightly different, particularly if they are off by default or are attached by default and can be torn off |
| 05:07.29 | purple_cow | they do a good job of explaining the basics of this sort of interaction design |
| 05:09.45 | jude- | purple_cow: consider this: a text area for messages BZWB can present to the user (which can be closed or minimized if needed) would be useful for monitoring and logging user actions |
| 05:09.58 | jude- | I'll concede that errors are better left to some sort of dialog mechanism |
| 05:11.15 | purple_cow | I don't think I personally would have much use for such a log (except as maybe some sort of undo-history viewer), but maybe |
| 05:11.24 | purple_cow | in any case, that sounds pretty low priority |
| 05:11.42 | jude- | well, this way users can record the actions they took to create an object |
| 05:11.47 | jude- | and share them with others |
| 05:12.05 | jude- | nm |
| 05:40.25 | jude- | purple_cow: I'm afraid that I have to insist on a multi-windowed design for now |
| 05:40.33 | jude- | I have a relatively small monitor |
| 05:40.37 | jude- | and I need to see what I'm doing |
| 05:41.06 | jude- | and having some elements in separate windows allows me to maximize the real-estate |
| 05:41.26 | jude- | 'cause I can move them out of sight |
| 05:41.54 | jude- | I can merge them later if the end-users don't like it |
| 05:43.26 | jude- | heh--Blender doesn't even fit on my desktop :P |
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| 05:47.36 | jude- | sorry about that...I missed the last two minutes (if anything was said) |
| 05:49.16 | a_temp_dist | nothing |
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| 06:51.08 | daxxar | Yawn. Morning. |
| 06:56.41 | jude- | good morning daxxar |
| 06:59.26 | daxxar | Hey jude :) |
| 07:00.28 | jude- | how's it going? |
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| 07:09.45 | daxxar | Great, great. Trying to get an early start today. :-) |
| 07:10.41 | jude- | sounds good :) |
| 07:10.48 | jude- | how is your project coming? |
| 07:11.38 | daxxar | I've finally come to a point where the protocol / API has potential for implementation, so hopefully that's a "nicely". :-) |
| 07:11.53 | daxxar | Not much code yet, sadly, =) |
| 07:12.36 | jude- | glad to hear you're doing well :) |
| 07:17.32 | daxxar | I assume you're making great progress? |
| 07:18.15 | daxxar | (judging by the commits;) |
| 07:18.31 | jude- | heh...kind of |
| 07:18.47 | jude- | nothing usable yet, though |
| 07:20.32 | jude- | not even a GUI :) |
| 07:20.34 | daxxar | That'll come later ;) |
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| 11:32.02 | daxxar | src/bzflag/playing.h: |
| 11:32.02 | daxxar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.02 | daxxar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.02 | daxxar | extern bool headless; |
| 11:32.05 | daxxar | meh |
| 11:32.20 | daxxar | One missing line there: |
| 11:32.22 | daxxar | /* Any code surrounded by "if (!headless)" is unsafely assuming that it's |
| 11:32.30 | daxxar | Why is this 'unsafely assuming'? |
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| 11:40.58 | daxxar | Sigh, botplaying.cxx has a lot of 99% copy-paste from playing.cxx |
| 11:41.10 | daxxar | Tickles my inner codecleaner. |
| 11:41.37 | daxxar | Some of it is changed like "HUDDialogStack::get()->setFailedMessage("Downloading World...");" -> "printout("Downloading World...");" |
| 11:42.03 | daxxar | But that's hardly a priority to fix, can leave it as-is for now. :/ |
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| 12:51.10 | daxxar | brlcad: Are you around? |
| 12:51.45 | daxxar | I was thinking - we add a 'setTickDuration' and 'getTickDuration', expose this to the APIs, so AI players can customize it themselves. |
| 13:30.57 | Thumper_ | TASAIRES_OUT: please turn your auto away messages OFF |
| 13:32.22 | KTL | hehe |
| 13:32.39 | KTL | this has happened before iirc |
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| 14:00.36 | tannerld | ... |
| 14:01.39 | tannerld | :\ |
| 14:04.51 | Winny | woot |
| 14:06.34 | donny_baker | TASAIRES : dé vuelta por favor a sus mensajes ausentes del automóvil APAGADO (sorry for the horrible translation... blame babblefish) |
| 14:07.25 | Winny | hi donny_baker! |
| 14:07.29 | Winny | good morning! |
| 14:07.30 | Winny | :p |
| 14:07.33 | donny_baker | morning |
| 14:08.12 | TASAIRES | Thumper_ Sorry, wait to the messenger is off Now |
| 14:08.28 | TASAIRES | :D |
| 14:15.49 | Macrosoft | newb alert: someone is posting on all the topics in the forums... get ready to empty your mail box |
| 14:16.05 | Winny | ...who |
| 14:17.27 | Thumper_ | TASAIRES: thanks |
| 14:18.05 | Winny | I love that, "OMG SUM1 IS CHEATING"; "who?" "THAT GUY" |
| 14:19.38 | TASAIRES | Thumper_ when change the Bzflag to a New Versión! |
| 14:20.25 | Winny | when its done |
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| 14:21.51 | TASAIRES | Winny sorry is ?? |
| 14:22.18 | tannerld | huh? |
| 14:22.19 | Winny | a new BZFlag version will appear when its done, there is no "set time" for a new one |
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| 14:22.57 | Thumper_ | TASAIRES: when it's ready |
| 14:23.05 | Macrosoft | yeah...its currently scheduled to be finished yesterday :d |
| 14:23.47 | Winny | Macrosoft: :O |
| 14:25.08 | TASAIRES | when change the Bzflag to a New Versión? (sorry my bad english) |
| 14:25.37 | Winny | When its done... |
| 14:25.39 | donny_baker | TASAIRES: the date is not known |
| 14:26.01 | Winny | No set deadlines, the devs contribute as much or as little as they want |
| 14:26.53 | TASAIRES | ok, the next version leave how -> 2.1.x ?? |
| 14:27.36 | Winny | 2.2 |
| 14:27.57 | TASAIRES | i prove thats versions -> BZFlag 2.0.8 debian and BZFlag 2.0.8 win32 (windows) |
| 14:28.15 | TASAIRES | an unoficial BZFlag 2.0.9 for debian |
| 14:28.34 | donny_baker | TASAIRES: usted habla español? |
| 14:28.45 | TASAIRES | si donny_baker |
| 14:28.49 | TASAIRES | soy español |
| 14:28.53 | Winny | 2.1.x are development versions, 2.2.x will be the release version |
| 14:28.56 | donny_baker | yo muy pocito |
| 14:29.15 | Macrosoft | your accented characters are showing up as rectangles here |
| 14:29.32 | donny_baker | Macrosoft: it's your client |
| 14:30.08 | TASAIRES | Winny, thaks. i think that first 2.1.0 (users) and 2.1.1 (developeds) |
| 14:30.18 | donny_baker | any of our native spanish speakers around? |
| 14:30.42 | Winny | parler francais...kinda |
| 14:30.44 | Winny | :p |
| 14:30.51 | TASAIRES | donny_baker Manu is spanish |
| 14:30.54 | TheRedBaron | donny_baker: I can get one |
| 14:31.02 | donny_baker | my kids are at home, so I am useless with Spanish |
| 14:31.03 | TheRedBaron | but unsure of how they might help |
| 14:32.18 | donny_baker | its a lot easier to talk between languages when you are face to face :) |
| 14:32.36 | TheRedBaron | donny_baker: I can speak spanish, but can't type it to save my soul |
| 14:32.44 | donny_baker | body language and facial expressions tend to correct errors |
| 14:33.11 | donny_baker | i understand spanish, but can't speak hardly any |
| 14:33.21 | Macrosoft | but that requires a body...not everyone has one |
| 14:33.22 | tannerld | lol |
| 14:33.39 | donny_baker | heck, i have a hard enough time with english |
| 14:33.50 | tannerld | don't we all |
| 14:33.52 | TASAIRES | donny_baker use that Google translater , by example |
| 14:34.17 | donny_baker | yes, i try to use babelfish, but the translations are horrible |
| 14:34.19 | TASAIRES | that use any time, but my bad english |
| 14:34.30 | wanda | tannerld: u really wnat to become citizen of the vatican? the country with the highest criminal rate on the world? |
| 14:34.46 | TASAIRES | wanda ?? |
| 14:35.01 | wanda | s/wnat/want/ |
| 14:35.07 | donny_baker | heh, I have 4 years of latin and all I remember is the word for 6 |
| 14:36.44 | wanda | TASAIRES: ?? |
| 14:37.14 | TASAIRES | yes wanda?? |
| 14:37.23 | TASAIRES | here are |
| 14:37.28 | Macrosoft | yep, that new person has taken up the art of thread necromancy |
| 14:39.49 | TASAIRES | wanda i living on spanish and i not know the vatican citie, highest criminal rate |
| 14:42.13 | wanda | so think about: vatican has about 1000 citizens but lot of theft, violence and others .. official language is latin, thats the connection to the discussion here .. |
| 14:42.49 | Macrosoft | i thought latin isn't a spoken language? |
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| 14:43.29 | Macrosoft | just a written one |
| 14:43.54 | TheRedBaron | lol |
| 14:44.06 | TheRedBaron | half of the spoken and written languages are based off of latin |
| 14:44.31 | wanda | as far as i know it is required by the roman catholic church, isnt it? |
| 14:44.48 | TheRedBaron | french, english, spanish, italian, just to name a few |
| 14:45.40 | Winny | AOL speak... :p |
| 14:45.49 | TASAIRES | I speak Spanish of Spain. That is Castellano, most that latin, is more near to Hispano - Litino, but no exactaly Latin, but if that this family |
| 14:46.07 | wanda | .. and the diffenrence is based on the level of alcohol .. if u learned some latin and are drunken enough .. you can speak french and spanish at the same time |
| 14:46.15 | TASAIRES | Spanish have more sources |
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| 14:46.38 | TheRedBaron | wanda: correct :) |
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| 14:47.05 | TASAIRES | Spanish = latin, Arabic, Celta, Romanic, etc... |
| 14:47.11 | TASAIRES | Geman |
| 14:47.16 | TASAIRES | etc |
| 14:47.45 | Winny | quantum dot speaks spanish? |
| 14:48.06 | TASAIRES | is an language with more sources, i for that not is Latin |
| 14:48.08 | quantumdot | yes i do Winny |
| 14:48.13 | Winny | aha |
| 14:48.31 | Winny | someone was looking for a spanish speaker... not sure if they still are |
| 14:48.44 | TASAIRES | more words that spanish is comon to many other languages |
| 14:49.13 | TheRedBaron | quantumdot: TASAIRES is a citizen of spain |
| 14:49.25 | quantumdot | oh, bienvenido pues |
| 14:49.50 | quantumdot | manu esta en Extremadura |
| 14:50.31 | TASAIRES | Spain is the Iberic Country, and by that pass more conquistes, since to the UNOS Anibal, the fenicies, The roman, the turkies, the Arabics, |
| 14:50.54 | TASAIRES | quantumdot i yo en Mrcia |
| 14:50.58 | TASAIRES | quantumdot i yo en Murcia |
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| 14:52.28 | TASAIRES | TheRedBaron thanks, gracias |
| 14:52.33 | TASAIRES | XDD |
| 14:53.10 | TASAIRES | TheRedBaron, is an music group to Murcia, jajaja, |
| 14:54.14 | quantumdot | Baron Rojo, TASAIRES? |
| 14:54.48 | TASAIRES | si de deonde eres?? |
| 14:55.05 | TASAIRES | de donde eres?? |
| 14:55.12 | TASAIRES | quantumdot |
| 14:55.36 | TASAIRES | eres español o hispano? quantumdot |
| 14:55.46 | quantumdot | español, si |
| 14:55.52 | quantumdot | Cantabria |
| 14:56.03 | TASAIRES | otro paisano, de Spain |
| 14:56.04 | quantumdot | y Manu es de Extremadura |
| 14:56.06 | ruskie | since when is the official language around here spanish? |
| 14:56.32 | quantumdot | ruskie: just a little chatting, nothing that matters |
| 14:56.34 | Macrosoft | ruskie: cierra tu cara |
| 14:56.56 | ruskie | there is a #bzchat |
| 14:57.33 | TASAIRES | ruskie hello XDD sorry |
| 14:57.37 | quantumdot | oh my, |
| 14:58.03 | quantumdot | ruskie: surely there is also a #complains |
| 14:58.19 | blast007 | quantumdot: he's already there |
| 14:58.26 | blast007 | ;) |
| 14:58.32 | quantumdot | i get it |
| 14:59.50 | TASAIRES | para todos Ruskie os dice que este es una canal de BZflag, y el lenguage de este canal no es español |
| 14:59.53 | TASAIRES | |
| 14:59.56 | TASAIRES | for all Ruskie it says to you that this it is a channel of BZflag, and lenguage of this channel is not Spanish |
| 14:59.59 | TASAIRES | |
| 15:00.02 | TASAIRES | for all Ruskie it says to you that this it is a channel of BZflag, and lenguage of this channel is not Spanish |
| 15:00.17 | scott | was ist das? |
| 15:00.23 | quantumdot | yay! |
| 15:00.25 | ruskie | lol |
| 15:00.28 | TheRedBaron | scott: bad cut and paste |
| 15:00.39 | scott | oye |
| 15:00.47 | TASAIRES | Please Speak on English, my Country users |
| 15:00.57 | TASAIRES | :D |
| 15:01.06 | scott | :/ |
| 15:01.11 | scott | that doesnt make sense |
| 15:01.21 | TASAIRES | scott hello scott |
| 15:01.29 | TheRedBaron | scott: I suspect a google translate, or babblefish |
| 15:01.38 | TASAIRES | I say that my english is very bad |
| 15:01.42 | Macrosoft | guten tag |
| 15:02.03 | TASAIRES | a |
| 15:02.06 | TASAIRES | - |
| 15:03.37 | quantumdot | yes TASAIRES, I think that was why I was called in the first place |
| 15:03.39 | TASAIRES | Wait see to Alls on BZflag servers, I see ours to that |
| 15:03.47 | Macrosoft | guten tag = greetings |
| 15:03.49 | TASAIRES | Bye |
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| 15:09.34 | Winny | tables are EVIL |
| 15:09.36 | Winny | RAWR |
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| 15:55.09 | Manu | quantumdot: TASIRES me conocÃa ya ;) |
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| 16:34.06 | thefirstdude | is there a max to how tall and wide a map can be? |
| 16:35.49 | Winny | uhh, within reason I would assume |
| 16:36.17 | thefirstdude | someone is asking me what the max height and widht is :E |
| 16:39.35 | JeffM | the depth buffer will crap out after some distance |
| 16:39.40 | JeffM | there is no hard limit |
| 16:39.56 | JeffM | but most cards won't be able to draw incredebly large views |
| 16:40.12 | JeffM | you can probaly get into the thousands with out issue tho |
| 16:45.42 | thefirstdude | after getting up to aroung 1000 with wings |
| 16:45.59 | thefirstdude | everything get's blury...is that what your talking about |
| 16:46.39 | Winny | what sounds better... bzflagr.com or bzflagr.net |
| 16:47.56 | thefirstdude | net |
| 16:48.34 | Winny | thats what I thought |
| 16:49.59 | JeffM | blurry? |
| 16:50.05 | JeffM | or parts of it start to not draw? |
| 16:50.13 | JeffM | and it "shimmers with z fighing? |
| 16:51.26 | thefirstdude | everything get's blured together |
| 16:51.39 | thefirstdude | everything gets drawes |
| 16:51.42 | JeffM | like in horizonalt stripes |
| 16:51.42 | thefirstdude | drawed |
| 16:51.42 | JeffM | ok |
| 16:51.47 | JeffM | then that's not blurred |
| 16:51.52 | JeffM | thats z fighting |
| 16:52.00 | JeffM | how big is the map size |
| 16:52.08 | thefirstdude | 250 |
| 16:52.15 | blast007 | no, it gets blurred |
| 16:52.17 | JeffM | so your object is large then the map |
| 16:52.18 | blast007 | at a certain height |
| 16:52.19 | JeffM | ? |
| 16:52.53 | blast007 | for instance, when you shoot, the bullets leave trails |
| 16:53.36 | thefirstdude | nif you are going up, and you shoot a red bullet, there is a red line going from where you shot and the bottom of your screen |
| 16:53.37 | JeffM | ahh I call that smearing |
| 16:53.50 | JeffM | cus we don't clear the back buffer |
| 16:54.12 | JeffM | but we base the depth buffer size off the map size 4 x the largest dimension IIRC |
| 16:54.18 | JeffM | so if your map is 250 |
| 16:54.23 | JeffM | and your object is 1000 |
| 16:54.32 | JeffM | then your object is larger then the depth buffer |
| 16:54.38 | JeffM | you should make your world biger |
| 16:54.39 | JeffM | like 1000 |
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| 19:32.33 | brlcad | daxxar: unsafe from the perspective that it probably crashes if it wasn't wrapped in (!headless) and it was easier to add that than to duplication the file and rip out the sections at that time |
| 19:33.25 | brlcad | daxxar: i like your setTickDuration extension -- though it would be good to store all robocode extensions entirely in a separate (header) file so that it's clear what's not compatible |
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| 19:37.30 | brlcad | daxxar: even better would be some robocode-compatible api call that would allow bot-writers to distinguish themselves from running in the robocode simulator vs in bz so they can wrap their code if they need with checks like if (getSimulatorVersion() == "Robocode") etc. |
| 19:46.17 | wanda | i just see a plaer without name on bzflag.pr0nix.de .. how can this happen? |
| 19:46.31 | wanda | s/plaer/player/ |
| 19:46.41 | TD-Linux | (UNKNOWN) ? |
| 19:46.53 | TD-Linux | or maybe just a lot of spaces? |
| 19:47.04 | wanda | he ist not acting but joined the game |
| 19:47.36 | Winny | yeah, that happens sometimes |
| 19:47.46 | Winny | I wouldn't worry |
| 19:47.53 | TD-Linux | wow weird |
| 19:47.56 | Winny | IIRC, they usually have alot of lag |
| 19:48.06 | wanda | i dont worry .. surprised only ... |
| 19:48.31 | TD-Linux | that server's lag is unplayable anyway |
| 19:48.37 | TD-Linux | my shots go through everyone |
| 19:49.28 | wanda | TD-Linux: thats what shots usually do when killing ... |
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| 20:50.40 | Winny | alrightee, my really annoying avatar is up |
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| 20:52.13 | Winny | hopefully it'll scare away some kiddies ;) |
| 20:57.55 | a_temp_dist_ | today's kiddies are tomorrows players and the day after's server-owners |
| 20:58.49 | Winny | some of them seem to have too low of an IQ |
| 21:00.23 | a_temp_dist_ | agreed |
| 21:05.05 | ruskie | a_temp_dist_, sure they are... |
| 21:06.15 | a_temp_dist_ | heh, pardon my optimism :) |
| 21:08.12 | JeffM | a_temp_dist_, umm they are today's players, and today's server owners, that's the problem ;) |
| 21:09.35 | a_temp_dist_ | need more complicated instructions for starting a server |
| 21:09.48 | JeffM | or a server rating sytem |
| 21:09.49 | blast007 | "Please enter your IQ to start bzfs" |
| 21:09.58 | JeffM | or a server aproval system |
| 21:10.12 | blast007 | "preffered servers" |
| 21:10.20 | JeffM | that would help some of it |
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| 21:11.08 | jude- | hello all |
| 21:11.09 | Winny | ~heyjude |
| 21:11.10 | ibot | it has been said that heyjude is Hey, Jude, don't make it bad |
| 21:11.29 | a_temp_dist_ | the "favorites" addition to the serverlist helps some |
| 21:12.33 | brlcad | ~no, heyjude is <reply>Hey, Jude-, go ahead and make it bad. |
| 21:13.07 | jude- | lol |
| 21:13.31 | Winny | lol |
| 21:13.38 | jude- | ~heyjude |
| 21:13.38 | ibot | Hey, Jude-, go ahead and make it bad. |
| 21:13.39 | Winny | ~trout brlcad |
| 21:13.40 | ibot | ACTION slaps brlcad around a bit with a large trout! |
| 21:13.55 | jude- | huh? |
| 21:14.07 | Winny | huh? |
| 21:14.14 | jude- | where'd that come from? |
| 21:14.14 | Winny | ~trout jude- |
| 21:14.15 | ibot | ACTION slaps jude- around a bit with a large trout! |
| 21:14.15 | Constitution | ~huh? |
| 21:14.16 | ibot | Welcome to ICQ. |
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| 21:14.33 | TheRedBaron | ~whaleslap winny |
| 21:14.33 | ibot | ACTION beats winny upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 21:14.44 | Winny | ~shave TheRedBaron |
| 21:14.44 | ibot | ACTION grabs the razor & shaving cream & chases TheRedBaron until he sees TheRedBaron... then grabs TheRedbaron & dry shaves TheRedBaron from head to toe! |
| 21:14.51 | TheRedBaron | it defaults to that |
| 21:14.52 | Winny | two redbarons :o |
| 21:14.58 | TheRedBaron | watch |
| 21:15.02 | Winny | I know |
| 21:15.02 | TheRedBaron | ~shave sportchick |
| 21:15.03 | ibot | ACTION grabs the razor & shaving cream & chases sportchick until he sees TheRedBaron... then grabs TheRedbaron & dry shaves TheRedBaron from head to toe! |
| 21:17.15 | jude- | heh |
| 21:19.49 | Winny | hey, brlcad, is your name pronounced like: "Bee Arrr Ell CAD" |
| 21:20.27 | Winny | or burlcad, or something |
| 21:20.47 | poolio | i say b-r-l cad |
| 21:20.52 | poolio | it's brlcad.org |
| 21:21.10 | findlay | ~whalepunt TheRedBaron |
| 21:21.10 | ibot | ACTION looks onward as an everest-sized whale called Victor punts TheRedBaron across Soviet Russia (No... you don't punt whales there) |
| 21:21.17 | findlay | :) |
| 21:21.43 | Winny | lol |
| 21:22.04 | purple_cow | um...ok... |
| 21:22.22 | Winny | </random> |
| 21:22.43 | findlay | heh |
| 21:22.49 | findlay | we freaked out purple_cow |
| 21:25.46 | brlcad | Winny: http://brlcad.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/brlcad/brlcad/doc/description.txt <-- See the PROJECT NAME section, 5th paragraph ;-) |
| 21:25.54 | Winny | ah, ok |
| 21:26.24 | purple_cow | findlay: no you didn't |
| 21:26.28 | purple_cow | I've been on the internet |
| 21:27.21 | findlay | heh |
| 21:27.39 | Winny | yay, I was right |
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| 21:34.12 | brlcad | yup, Winny .. BRL-CAD is correctly pronounced as "be are el cad". |
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| 21:35.44 | nn-gentoo | where is a bzw api (full) . txt maniul thing file!!!!!!! |
| 21:36.09 | nn-gentoo | *where is a bzw api (full) . txt maniul file!! |
| 21:36.17 | JeffM | bzw api? |
| 21:36.24 | JeffM | you maen the bzw docs for the map? |
| 21:36.28 | JeffM | or the API docs |
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| 21:36.31 | nn-gentoo | YES!! |
| 21:36.35 | JeffM | what one? |
| 21:36.42 | JeffM | map or plug-ins? |
| 21:36.48 | nn-gentoo | bzw map format api |
| 21:36.58 | JeffM | the API only has to do with plug-ins |
| 21:37.03 | TheRedBaron | no - its burlycad |
| 21:37.06 | JeffM | do you want to make a map? or make a plugin? |
| 21:37.07 | nn-gentoo | bzw map format think then |
| 21:37.10 | JeffM | there ya go |
| 21:37.20 | JeffM | the wiki has info on the bzw file format |
| 21:37.21 | findlay | back in my day I just looked in `man bzfs` for that |
| 21:37.31 | JeffM | there is also a bzw man page in most distriobutions |
| 21:37.32 | a_meteorite | man bzw |
| 21:37.40 | JeffM | windows should include it as an HTML |
| 21:37.45 | JeffM | nix has it as a man page |
| 21:37.46 | findlay | might have been bzw, don't remember |
| 21:37.59 | nn-gentoo | ok that helped thanks |
| 21:38.00 | JeffM | the wiki has better info tho |
| 21:38.08 | JeffM | more detailed and up to date |
| 21:38.16 | JeffM | as well as the full text of the bzw man page |
| 21:39.57 | jude- | JeffM: "more detailed and up to date?" Could you be more specific as to which parts are more up to date? |
| 21:40.18 | JeffM | the stuff that was added for 2.1 :) |
| 21:40.27 | jude- | i.e. I noticed a huge discrepancy between the valid material parameters in man bzw and the wiki |
| 21:40.42 | JeffM | the wiki is updated more often by more people |
| 21:40.48 | JeffM | the man page was missing stuff |
| 21:41.34 | jude- | off the top of your head, do you remember if any material functionality had been removed for 2.1 (i.e. it was incomplete, unused, etc.)? |
| 21:41.50 | JeffM | I can't recall off the top of my head |
| 21:41.55 | JeffM | I don't think materials were changed at all |
| 21:42.15 | JeffM | I could also be thinking of the API docs |
| 21:42.34 | JeffM | I do know that the bzw man page was not complete |
| 21:42.43 | jude- | i.e. man bzw talks about "spheremap", "occluder", etc., but the wiki makes no mention of it |
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| 21:42.49 | JeffM | and when items were moved to the wiki, more accurate info was added |
| 21:43.00 | JeffM | the wiki is not perfect :) |
| 21:43.20 | JeffM | the bzw in the wiki is not the same as the one in source? |
| 21:43.36 | brlcad | which someone(tm) should back-migrate those changes into the man page too |
| 21:43.45 | JeffM | the detailed sub sections may not metnion all things yet, but I thought the man in the wiki was pulled right from the source. |
| 21:44.08 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14354 10/branches/ftgl/src/other/ftgl/inc/FTFont.h: quell warning |
| 21:45.09 | JeffM | ahh I guess the man page isn't in the wiki as a whole anymore |
| 21:45.15 | JeffM | it was busted into the sections. |
| 21:45.16 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14355 10/branches/ftgl/include/AnsiCodes.h: move the ansi color codes from the font manager to here since they have to correspond anyways. |
| 21:46.17 | JeffM | I do know one example, in the material, the info for color is better in the wiki then the man page |
| 21:46.23 | JeffM | it actualy lists all the color codes. |
| 21:47.34 | jude- | JeffM: yeah, I noticed that :) |
| 21:48.13 | JeffM | I'm not realy sure why we need man pages? why not just snap off a set of static wiki pages? |
| 21:48.26 | JeffM | eveyyone has a browser now adays |
| 21:50.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14356 10/branches/ftgl/ (include/FontManager.h src/3D/FontManager.cxx): |
| 21:50.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: big initial merge of the old with the new. merge in jeff's new ftgl-based font |
| 21:50.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: manager from GPx01, including the new alignment flags and the different loading |
| 21:50.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: approach. rip out all of the old Image/bitmap-based font code including |
| 21:50.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: scaling, but keep the decoration effects and ansi processing. still hacking, |
| 21:50.39 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: untested. |
| 21:51.57 | jude- | woot |
| 21:51.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14357 10/branches/ftgl/src/3D/Makefile.am: need ftgl and freetype include dirs.. this is just a short-term stop-gap -- needs to be condintally set in configure only if we're building/linking against the sources we provide |
| 21:53.28 | Winny | I don't know how you all work on the same project... I get lost in my own :) |
| 21:53.33 | findlay | JeffM: because man pages are often easier to use. They can be searched by regular expressionn, and they're local |
| 21:53.49 | JeffM | findlay, I mean send a local copy of the HTML pages |
| 21:53.52 | findlay | though that doesn't mean html documentaiton can't be local |
| 21:54.00 | JeffM | then it's seachable ;) |
| 21:54.10 | JeffM | and the same on all OSs |
| 21:54.10 | findlay | yeah |
| 21:54.16 | findlay | true |
| 21:54.56 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14358 10/branches/ftgl/src/3D/ (7 files): remove the old font implementation files (texture, image, and bitmap), relying on ftgl |
| 21:56.11 | brlcad | JeffM: mainly because manpages are pretty much expected on the *nix platforms, adamently |
| 21:56.38 | JeffM | so? |
| 21:56.43 | brlcad | even the more flexible "info" pages have made little headway in replacing manpages |
| 21:56.51 | findlay | ugh, info |
| 21:56.56 | findlay | :) |
| 21:57.15 | findlay | info's a good idea, it's just hard to use |
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| 22:07.51 | TD-Linux | brlcad, w00t, real fonts finally? |
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| 22:09.00 | brlcad | TD-Linux: testing |
| 22:11.27 | a_meteorite | real fonts? |
| 22:15.50 | TD-Linux | ttf! |
| 22:16.15 | a_meteorite | oooh |
| 22:16.24 | a_meteorite | does it work? is profont in? |
| 22:16.57 | brlcad | testing |
| 22:17.01 | a_meteorite | k |
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| 22:17.34 | brlcad | have to see how much, if any, of a performance hit it'll cause and whether it matters |
| 22:21.07 | TD-Linux | it's worth a performance hit :) |
| 22:21.21 | TD-Linux | though, depending on how you do it, it probably won't cause one |
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| 22:22.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14359 10/branches/ftgl/ (include/FontManager.h src/3D/FontManager.cxx): remove FTGL from the interface, hide it entirely in the implementation so we don't need the FTGLTextureFont.h header for the interface |
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| 22:40.44 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14360 10/branches/ftgl/src/bzflag/ (26 files): s/getStr/getString/ |
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| 22:43.19 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14361 10/branches/ftgl/src/bzflag/ (26 files): now font width, not length |
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| 22:44.34 | jzaun | Hello |
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| 22:48.30 | jude- | hello |
| 22:48.35 | Suspect_1 | Hey |
| 22:48.52 | Suspect_1 | A storm here is messing with the cable lol |
| 22:49.02 | jude- | heh |
| 22:49.08 | jude- | bet that's annoying |
| 22:49.13 | Suspect_1 | yeah |
| 22:49.21 | Winny | not as annoying as this! |
| 22:49.24 | Winny | ~pokepwn jude- |
| 22:49.25 | ibot | ACTION takes jude- and places in him the poking machine. Hilarity ensuses. |
| 22:49.39 | jude- | "poking machine?" |
| 22:49.44 | jude- | ~poke Winny |
| 22:49.45 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Winny, pokes Winny repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 22:49.50 | Winny | poking machine. |
| 22:50.00 | Suspect_1 | ~help |
| 22:50.01 | Suspect_1 | O-o |
| 22:51.56 | jude- | hmm....can ibot tell gender? |
| 22:52.02 | jude- | ~pokepwn SportChick |
| 22:52.03 | ibot | ACTION takes SportChick and places in him the poking machine. Hilarity ensuses. |
| 22:52.13 | tannerld | ~gender jude- |
| 22:52.14 | ibot | I heard jude- is lesbian. |
| 22:52.18 | Winny | haha |
| 22:52.20 | jude- | lol |
| 22:52.27 | Winny | ~gender Winny |
| 22:52.27 | ibot | I heard Winny is gay. |
| 22:52.32 | Winny | ^&%# |
| 22:52.37 | tannerld | eheh |
| 22:52.48 | Winny | ~gener Tannerld |
| 22:52.50 | Winny | err |
| 22:52.53 | Winny | ~gender Tannerld |
| 22:52.53 | ibot | I heard Tannerld is hermaphroditic. |
| 22:53.04 | Winny | whatever that means |
| 22:53.12 | jude- | both genders simultaneously |
| 22:53.21 | Winny | oh |
| 22:53.22 | tannerld | could be worse ;) |
| 22:53.25 | jude- | heh--hutts are hermaphroditic |
| 22:53.27 | Tedius | norang admins here? |
| 22:53.35 | tannerld | Tedius: yep? |
| 22:53.45 | Tedius | check out 5162, the hive |
| 22:54.09 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14362 10/branches/ftgl/src/bzflag/ (24 files): the font manager's getStringHeight function no longer takes a string parameter (which was unused anyways, usually set to a dummy value) |
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| 23:08.29 | jude- | brb--cable repair |
| 23:12.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r14365 10/branches/ftgl/src/bzrobots/Makefile.am: bleh, also needs ftgl and freetype due to the hooks into the client |
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| 23:21.18 | jzaun | so I've checked out the source from SVN. anyone have instructions on how to build it on OSX? |
| 23:21.32 | JeffM | run the xcode project :) |
| 23:21.42 | jzaun | Did that... |
| 23:21.50 | JeffM | that should have built and made you a .app |
| 23:21.53 | jzaun | clicked "Build" and error.. |
| 23:22.07 | JeffM | and the error is........? |
| 23:22.17 | JeffM | don't have SDL framework? |
| 23:22.22 | jzaun | BZFlag-Info.plist does not exist |
| 23:22.47 | jzaun | JeffM: very possibly... new to Mac, used to use Linux up till last week |
| 23:22.49 | JeffM | ahh that thing |
| 23:22.56 | JeffM | you can build nix style if you want too |
| 23:23.02 | JeffM | the same command line stuff work on the mac |
| 23:23.13 | JeffM | the X code project, just calls the makefile |
| 23:23.16 | CBG | Yeah, I never managed to build it, eer, in Xcode. |
| 23:23.18 | CBG | ever*. |
| 23:23.23 | JeffM | then does some other stuff to pack it into a .app |
| 23:23.25 | jzaun | I'd like to use the GUI if possible... |
| 23:23.27 | jzaun | oh :-) |
| 23:23.41 | jzaun | I was hoping to get it into a package :-/ |
| 23:23.45 | CBG | Whereas "./autogen.sh && ./configure && make" usually works great. |
| 23:23.55 | JeffM | IIRC the simple solution for the info thing was just copy one from the bins |
| 23:24.05 | JeffM | I don't know why they keep forgeting to put it in |
| 23:24.41 | CBG | Once you build on the command line, you can download normal 2.0.8.app and replace the programs you built from source in the .app. |
| 23:24.56 | JeffM | assuming he's doing 2.0 |
| 23:25.00 | Constitution | usually I build using command-line tools, and then jump into the Xcode project and finish building the .app (which sometimes requires some tweaking) |
| 23:25.38 | CBG | yeo |
| 23:25.40 | CBG | yep* |
| 23:25.43 | jzaun | hmm... |
| 23:25.55 | JeffM | are you doing 2.0.x? or 2.1? |
| 23:26.18 | jzaun | ok, so on a new mac, (3 days old) what do I need to get to compile BZFlag? |
| 23:26.26 | JeffM | again 2.1 or 2.0? |
| 23:26.45 | jzaun | just a svn co https://.... |
| 23:26.50 | JeffM | from truck |
| 23:26.53 | JeffM | then that's 2.1 |
| 23:26.54 | jzaun | yup |
| 23:26.59 | JeffM | that is not compatable to play with |
| 23:27.05 | JeffM | dev version |
| 23:27.09 | JeffM | that what you want? |
| 23:27.23 | jzaun | to play with for a bit... I'll get 2.0 too :-) |
| 23:27.35 | JeffM | I'm not sure if the 2.1 build system is stable |
| 23:27.40 | JeffM | for Xcode |
| 23:27.45 | JeffM | that's why I ask |
| 23:28.01 | JeffM | 2.1 is not compatable with 2.0.x |
| 23:28.58 | jzaun | ok... |
| 23:29.05 | jzaun | I'll check out 2.0 |
| 23:29.07 | delusional | jzaun I posted some mac instructions on the forum, ... getting the link |
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| 23:29.28 | jzaun | delusional: Thanks! |
| 23:30.37 | delusional | rather detailed http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=8356 |
| 23:31.18 | jzaun | thats exactly what I need ;-) I'm been developing on Linux for years but new to mac :-/ |
| 23:31.21 | delusional | I know someone who built 2.0.9 last week with it, if it works for you, bump the thread |
| 23:31.35 | JeffM | I stickied it |
| 23:31.43 | JeffM | you should update it to show svn not cvs |
| 23:32.06 | delusional | I'm 90 percent sure it will not work with 2.1 |
| 23:32.58 | jzaun | I'm off to read it :-) thanks! |
| 23:33.11 | delusional | ha jeff did sticky it. |
| 23:33.49 | delusional | I suppose i should start usin svn, myself. |
| 23:38.16 | delusional | I highly suggest using the 2.0.8 tarball, to test your build environment, before moving on to 2.0.9. |
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| 23:39.30 | jude- | back |
| 23:39.33 | jude- | cable's fixed :) |
| 23:39.39 | Winny | ~heyjude |
| 23:39.40 | ibot | Hey, Jude-, go ahead and make it bad. |
| 23:39.52 | CBG | ~jude-++ |
| 23:40.33 | jude- | heh--our cable modem was on the second cable split instead of the first, so our cable modem kept working too hard and shutting down :P |
| 23:41.49 | jude- | i.e. it didn't have direct-enough acces |
| 23:41.51 | jude- | *access |
| 23:41.58 | jude- | brb |
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| 23:53.44 | delusional | jzaun, we've been able to compile 2.1 client, but not 2.1 server, last week. GO STEELERS! |
| 23:54.06 | jzaun | I've got 2.0 configured |
| 23:54.10 | jzaun | gonna run make now |
| 23:54.21 | jzaun | cross fingers |
| 23:54.32 | delusional | you mean 2.0.8? |
| 23:54.42 | jzaun | STEELERS! from my home town... haven't seen them play in years |
| 23:54.57 | jzaun | delusional: SVN 2.0 branch |
| 23:55.30 | delusional | haha, yeah, i'm in pittsburgh, there was a time I missed only one preseason game in ten years. |
| 23:55.43 | delusional | (I worked at the stadium) |
| 23:56.01 | jzaun | I moved to Hawaii six years ago. I lived in the north hills though |
| 23:56.10 | jzaun | sharpsburgh area |
| 23:56.12 | delusional | I'm in bellevue |
| 23:56.52 | jzaun | well... seems to be compiling :-) |
| 23:57.10 | delusional | good, If you did the sdl correctly, it's usually good |
| 23:57.38 | jzaun | I just installed the framwork... easy as copying a folder.. |
| 23:57.51 | delusional | 2.1 is actually easier, the SDL is already in the right place |
| 23:58.04 | delusional | in bzflag source |
| 23:58.17 | jzaun | hm |
| 23:58.49 | blast007 | hi jzaun :) |
| 23:58.50 | jzaun | this wasn't hard... there was a dmg at the sdl site to dload. just had to copy the framework to the right place... |
| 23:58.55 | jzaun | hi blast007 :-) |