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01:56.36 | brlcad | wee |
02:19.23 | PuMpErNiCkLe | wii |
03:13.02 | menotume | why ? |
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03:13.33 | menotume | The abthroom is down the hall on the right |
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04:38.03 | cosmos | hrm |
04:38.37 | brlcad | indeed |
04:41.10 | cosmos | missing several days in your running regimen is not good, i was dying tonight |
04:56.35 | brlcad | i feel your pain.. i've been out off my regimen for almost two weeks now .. i'm going to be hating life sunday after tomorrow's workout |
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05:25.39 | cosmos | yeah i just started back after 17 years of no running. i was up to 4-4.5 miles at 8:30ish pace end of last week |
05:25.55 | cosmos | tonight i just hit 3miles at 9:00 and that was it |
05:26.05 | brlcad | not bad at all, way to go |
05:26.31 | cosmos | yeah well it smarts knowing the last time i was running i could knock out a 16 minute 5k heh |
05:26.40 | brlcad | heh |
05:27.02 | cosmos | i keep noticing im floating faster and faster and getting tired quick. hard to pace right now |
05:27.08 | brlcad | you probably had no gray hairs back then either |
05:27.34 | cosmos | well if i shave i still have no gray hairs |
05:27.39 | brlcad | heh |
05:27.48 | cosmos | i have a patch near the bottom sideburns if i let it grow in |
05:28.13 | cosmos | im hoping do do a 5k sometime n march |
05:28.19 | brlcad | i relinquished to the beginning of an onset several years ago.. still not noticeable until up close at least |
05:29.04 | cosmos | get that "just for men" coloring |
05:29.47 | brlcad | i usually/used to color my hair a couple times a year.. but more vivid colors |
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05:29.57 | brlcad | haven't in almost two years though, hmm |
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06:31.16 | Tanksnipe | hi |
06:31.47 | Tanksnipe | anybody here? |
06:32.17 | JeffM2501 | yes |
06:32.21 | Tanksnipe | hi |
06:32.27 | JeffM2501 | hi |
06:32.33 | Tanksnipe | um can u tell me how i can make groups |
06:32.42 | Tanksnipe | been searching with no success |
06:33.06 | JeffM2501 | you make a group db file |
06:33.25 | Tanksnipe | that would be a local group rite |
06:33.30 | JeffM2501 | yes |
06:33.34 | Tanksnipe | ok |
06:33.40 | JeffM2501 | that has the permisions for the group name |
06:34.01 | Tanksnipe | do i need a global group |
06:34.09 | JeffM2501 | you use global login? |
06:34.14 | Tanksnipe | um idk |
06:34.26 | JeffM2501 | then I don't know if you need a global group :) |
06:34.45 | Tanksnipe | well i just wanna be auto admin when i go on ym server |
06:34.49 | Tanksnipe | simple |
06:35.18 | JeffM2501 | then yes, you probably need a global group |
06:35.48 | Tanksnipe | i need an admin to make it rite |
06:35.49 | JeffM2501 | but you still set the perms local |
06:35.55 | JeffM2501 | yes |
06:35.58 | Tanksnipe | hmm |
06:36.05 | Tanksnipe | guess il go to forums |
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06:36.40 | Tanksnipe | hi park |
06:36.43 | JeffM2501 | yes an admin makes them |
06:36.44 | Parkinson | Hi |
06:37.00 | Tanksnipe | arent u parkison j. fox |
06:37.13 | Tanksnipe | the guy with a trmendous amout of lag |
06:37.26 | JeffM2501 | it's not lag he has |
06:37.28 | a_meteorite | Tanksnipe: actually, parkinson j. fox is CRW - a known cheater |
06:37.32 | Parkinson | Yes, I have a lot of lag, unfortunately. |
06:37.38 | Tanksnipe | cheater |
06:37.49 | Tanksnipe | ill have to agree with anything met says |
06:39.23 | Tanksnipe | whos on now that can make me a global group |
06:39.45 | a_meteorite | Jeff has the ability to do that :) |
06:39.49 | JeffM2501 | there is a fourm to request it |
06:39.56 | a_meteorite | yeah |
06:40.05 | Tanksnipe | yea ill go post.. |
06:40.31 | menotume | what do you need ? |
06:40.38 | Tanksnipe | i need name for group tho |
06:40.43 | JeffM2501 | use the fourm |
06:40.45 | brlcad | I stopped watching CRW, is he back at it? |
06:40.48 | JeffM2501 | we need to have a log for it |
06:40.54 | menotume | ya, ok |
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06:41.37 | Tanksnipe | wat should i name the group |
06:41.41 | daniel_jackson | hello everyone |
06:41.43 | a_meteorite | hello daniel_jackson |
06:41.44 | Tanksnipe | hi |
06:41.46 | JeffM2501 | your server name |
06:41.48 | JeffM2501 | then .admin |
06:41.59 | Tanksnipe | ehh but i change map everyso often |
06:42.05 | Tanksnipe | i dotn really have a name |
06:42.10 | JeffM2501 | not your map name, server name |
06:42.13 | JeffM2501 | your DNS? |
06:42.31 | Tanksnipe | ugh |
06:42.36 | JeffM2501 | it ain't exactly rocket science |
06:42.49 | Tanksnipe | i know |
06:43.00 | Parkinson | Do you have static IP, tanksnipe? |
06:43.15 | Tanksnipe | no to expensive for me atm |
06:43.49 | brlcad | heh |
06:44.01 | Tanksnipe | =[ |
06:45.47 | JeffM2501 | you don't need one |
06:46.07 | Parkinson | :) |
06:46.30 | Tanksnipe | dont need a wat |
06:46.36 | Tanksnipe | Mt. Dew =p |
06:46.40 | JeffM2501 | a static |
06:46.57 | Parkinson | My bad, then. |
06:47.02 | Tanksnipe | i know |
06:47.07 | Tanksnipe | i use no-ip |
06:47.22 | Tanksnipe | couldnt get dyndns to work |
06:47.41 | Tanksnipe | ddclient confused and annoyed me |
06:47.54 | a_meteorite | you could use your name, tanksnipe |
06:48.02 | a_meteorite | I used to use that before coming up with bzfx |
06:48.06 | Tanksnipe | i thoguh of that |
06:48.41 | Tanksnipe | so u dont got know where to host bzfx i saw on forums |
06:49.00 | a_meteorite | yeah, I need a server |
06:49.02 | Tanksnipe | i like playing there havent in a while tho |
06:49.16 | a_meteorite | I have several leads |
06:52.04 | Tanksnipe | ok i guess ill just go with tanksnipe.admin |
06:52.14 | Tanksnipe | and tanksnipe.cop |
06:52.29 | Tanksnipe | met u think i need an onwer group |
06:52.47 | daniel_jackson | you should be the owner group |
06:53.05 | a_meteorite | I only have an owner group for people who make decisions in how things run |
06:53.22 | a_meteorite | it's mostly politically correct |
06:54.35 | Tanksnipe | ill just d the admin and owner group |
06:54.47 | Tanksnipe | is owner higher than admin |
06:54.50 | daniel_jackson | basically you may only want owners playing with your linuxbox settings |
06:54.57 | Tanksnipe | nnvm that kinda stupid to ask |
06:55.15 | daniel_jackson | theres never any stupid questions |
06:55.28 | a_meteorite | it can be whatever you want it to be ;) |
06:55.35 | Tanksnipe | brb gonna request the groups on forums then wait... |
06:56.39 | JeffM2501 | it'll be a while, I'm playing DDO |
06:56.48 | Tanksnipe | DDO |
06:56.48 | daniel_jackson | lol |
06:56.51 | Tanksnipe | ? |
06:57.05 | Tanksnipe | i dont need anythime soon |
06:57.10 | Tanksnipe | wats DDO |
06:57.13 | daniel_jackson | so much for jeff only working! lol |
06:57.22 | JeffM2501 | why would I do that? |
06:57.28 | Parkinson | Dungeons &Dragons |
06:57.41 | Tanksnipe | oo |
06:57.46 | Tanksnipe | ..... |
06:57.51 | daniel_jackson | something's wrong with your head? lol |
06:58.05 | JeffM2501 | excuse me? |
06:58.29 | daniel_jackson | its a joke, thats why you wouldn't work |
06:58.42 | daniel_jackson | you'd be crazy to work |
06:58.44 | Tanksnipe | are u sure DDO is Dungeons &Dragons i dont see no O |
06:58.53 | JeffM2501 | online |
06:58.54 | Parkinson | D&D Online |
06:58.57 | Tanksnipe | o ok |
06:59.01 | daniel_jackson | sry if I worded it badly |
06:59.15 | a_meteorite | Parkinson is particularly creepy in his knowledge of games and the desire to kill them. |
06:59.29 | daniel_jackson | kill games? |
06:59.32 | Tanksnipe | 30 dollars eh i think ill pass on DDO |
06:59.35 | Parkinson | Sorry for the lag, folks |
06:59.42 | a_meteorite | daniel_jackson: He's CRW, the cheater. |
06:59.45 | JeffM2501 | a_meteorite remember what we said about feeding trolls |
06:59.55 | a_meteorite | JeffM2501: Oh, yeah. |
06:59.57 | a_meteorite | JeffM2501: K. |
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07:00.16 | daniel_jackson | whose crw? |
07:00.23 | Tanksnipe | cheater |
07:00.24 | JeffM2501 | an idiot |
07:00.31 | JeffM2501 | leave it at that |
07:00.38 | daniel_jackson | the person not the description |
07:00.45 | Tanksnipe | where can i get the source for bzflag admin 2.0.8 |
07:00.51 | a_meteorite | Tanksnipe: sf.net |
07:00.55 | JeffM2501 | same place you get all the source |
07:00.55 | daniel_jackson | bzflag.org |
07:01.08 | Tanksnipe | wont that give me the alpha one |
07:01.12 | JeffM2501 | no |
07:01.18 | JeffM2501 | not if you get the 2.0.8 package |
07:01.29 | Tanksnipe | i dont want bzflag jsut admin |
07:01.39 | JeffM2501 | it's all together |
07:01.42 | JeffM2501 | we don't seperate them |
07:01.51 | a_meteorite | you can disable the client |
07:02.00 | a_meteorite | --disable-client configure switch |
07:02.04 | Tanksnipe | well the fedora rpm doesnt seem to have admin |
07:02.16 | Tanksnipe | nor maybe i cant find it |
07:02.19 | a_meteorite | when you say admin do you mean just bzfs and bzadmin? |
07:02.25 | Tanksnipe | bzadmin |
07:02.26 | JeffM2501 | then build it |
07:02.44 | daniel_jackson | whoohoo |
07:03.18 | daniel_jackson | ./configure; make; make install |
07:03.24 | Tanksnipe | ... |
07:03.33 | JeffM2501 | it comes with instructions |
07:03.44 | daniel_jackson | those are words to live by! |
07:03.45 | Tanksnipe | i know how to compile... |
07:03.52 | daniel_jackson | mlol |
07:03.52 | JeffM2501 | then there ya go |
07:03.54 | daniel_jackson | mlol |
07:03.57 | daniel_jackson | lol |
07:04.02 | a_meteorite | ~n |
07:04.09 | ibot | [n] the disease bzflag players get when they play too much. There is no cure. |
07:04.20 | daniel_jackson | sry I've been chatting on the client too long |
07:04.20 | Tanksnipe | ugh dont wanna go through all the trouble |
07:04.30 | Tanksnipe | lol i have that |
07:04.38 | JeffM2501 | that is your only choice |
07:04.41 | JeffM2501 | so basicly suck it up |
07:04.47 | Tanksnipe | then ill just not use it |
07:04.57 | daniel_jackson | I have the m disease |
07:05.01 | a_meteorite | ~m |
07:05.04 | ibot | it has been said that m is a variant of the n disease, usually found among league and CTF players. |
07:05.07 | a_meteorite | :) |
07:05.27 | Parkinson | nYou don't say |
07:05.36 | daniel_jackson | I might be catching the z disease as well |
07:05.47 | Tanksnipe | i onyl get n dieases when im on irc |
07:05.55 | daniel_jackson | lol |
07:05.57 | Tanksnipe | not while iming |
07:07.04 | daniel_jackson | hey you typed an "m" and an "n" in between the iig |
07:07.16 | daniel_jackson | lol |
07:07.24 | a_meteorite | ~z |
07:07.26 | ibot | well, z is zaurus, or the disease bzflag admins get when they play too much |
07:07.37 | a_meteorite | there you go, the whole family |
07:07.55 | Tanksnipe | family reunion |
07:08.22 | daniel_jackson | of course jeff is not commenting about his history of having the n,m, and z dieseases |
07:08.32 | daniel_jackson | lo; |
07:08.49 | Tanksnipe | :) |
07:09.49 | Tanksnipe | since the server upgrade thingy bzflag has been sluggish with connecting to servers |
07:10.01 | Tanksnipe | and connecting to the list server |
07:11.04 | daniel_jackson | check your video drivers and audio |
07:11.09 | daniel_jackson | drivers |
07:11.26 | daniel_jackson | and also the network settings |
07:11.49 | Tanksnipe | well i know thats a big problem already....stupid i810 driver |
07:12.06 | JeffM2501 | yeah... cus that will help the list server work beter.... |
07:12.23 | daniel_jackson | then make sure you actually turned your computer |
07:12.24 | Tanksnipe | yea |
07:12.28 | daniel_jackson | lol |
07:12.37 | daniel_jackson | on |
07:13.49 | Tanksnipe | how would i been on irc with my computer off -.- |
07:14.10 | JeffM2501 | he's just being stupid |
07:14.16 | Tanksnipe | i know |
07:14.24 | Tanksnipe | and im being saracastic |
07:14.39 | Tanksnipe | this is one of the reason the internet is useless |
07:14.48 | Tanksnipe | u cant imply sarcasm |
07:15.32 | Tanksnipe | brb laster |
07:15.37 | Tanksnipe | later |
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07:16.23 | daniel_jackson | ah you people need a sense of humor |
07:16.27 | daniel_jackson | lol |
07:16.43 | JeffM2501 | there is a time and place for all things |
07:16.59 | daniel_jackson | yeah, sry if I went overboard |
07:17.51 | Tanksnipe|afk | i think u went underboard |
07:18.26 | daniel_jackson | ok |
07:18.47 | daniel_jackson | I just don't want to hinder people |
07:27.57 | daniel_jackson | well I'm off to reek havoc on the players in missile war, sry jeff if caused any problems |
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07:32.28 | Tanksnipe|afk | bye jeff |
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09:59.10 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03atupone 07v2_0_cs_branch * 10bzflag/ (8 files in 3 dirs): I see Tank^WBox moving now |
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10:04.52 | ruskie | lol nice commit msg... |
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10:05.11 | Manu | :) |
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10:56.41 | gsnedders | ruskie: if I could find it, I'd show you this whole list of commit msgs by me all about blowing the world up, and unexpected delays (read: bugs) |
10:56.51 | ruskie | :) |
10:57.12 | gsnedders | mine tend to be more serious now, though |
10:58.14 | gsnedders | ruskie: "A 'recursive' loop!? What on earth is that!? Change that to 'infinite'." – that's probably the best one since I started being more serious :P |
10:58.56 | ruskie | lol |
10:59.44 | gsnedders | ruskie: I was just tired when I wrote it, I didn't change anything else when I added that comment :P |
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12:18.04 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03atupone 07v2_0_cs_branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (MainWindow.cxx MainWindow.h playing.cxx): Mouse control is there! |
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12:27.12 | ruskie | does there exist an "IamAboutToPickupAFlag" event that one might check instead of checking after the flag has been picked up? |
12:30.30 | ruskie | or another way to prohibit flag pickup but first check if the person trying to pick it up is allowed to do so |
12:31.02 | ruskie | maybe flag permissions or some such |
12:34.00 | donny_baker | i am talking for what i remember others saying (Thumper mostly) |
12:34.14 | donny_baker | and in his theif control plugin (in CVS) |
12:34.45 | donny_baker | but I beleive that the flag is picked up first and then dropped |
12:35.08 | ruskie | yeah that's how the fairCTF plugin does it as well |
12:35.11 | donny_baker | or maybe i am totally wrong as i say |
12:35.19 | ruskie | I'd like to have that same setup but to do it before the pickup |
12:35.29 | donny_baker | yeah, it would be cleaner |
12:36.07 | ruskie | either if the plugin disallows the pickup or if bzflag has some flag permissions that can be enabled at that time |
12:36.27 | ruskie | i.e. uneven teams: blue flag: blue team only |
14:19.25 | brlcad | *yawn* |
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15:12.48 | UnderGround | hey guys |
15:13.05 | UnderGround | you there? |
15:13.10 | UnderGround | guess not |
15:13.19 | donny_baker | yeah, were here |
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15:51.15 | KTL | some bright mind pointed to me that it would be interesting as server setting, to turn of team kills, so that team members can shoot through you or something ... |
15:52.15 | ruskie | that takes all the fun out of it |
15:53.08 | KTL | i play rogue for the reason that i don't have to check what type of team my opponents are |
15:53.25 | ruskie | lol |
15:53.30 | KTL | and the /kick that is for ops :) |
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16:34.02 | Pommes | just installed ubuntu on my new laptop and now got the same problem with sound as on my old laptop |
16:34.26 | Pommes | But I don't know anymore how I solved them on the old one :( |
16:34.44 | Pommes | in bzflag sound is played at double-speed which sounds awful |
16:34.57 | Pommes | anyone has experience with that? |
16:35.33 | inchworm | sounds like the driver is trying to play 22khz sound at 44khz ? |
16:36.30 | Upsetter | Pommes, i think menotume had the same problem some days ago, iirc |
16:36.52 | Pommes | somehwere I read that rb2 had the same prob too ... |
16:37.02 | Pommes | seems to be common, but I can't find the solution |
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16:38.50 | KTL | alsaconf? |
16:46.13 | inchworm | wrong sound driver some how? |
16:46.27 | Pommes | alsa |
16:46.42 | Pommes | on my other laptop it's dsp |
16:46.57 | Pommes | but bzflag it detects that itself |
16:47.01 | inchworm | are both laptop ubuntu? |
16:47.04 | Pommes | yes |
16:47.17 | inchworm | Pommes: bzflag just uses what ever drivers the kernel provides |
16:47.24 | Pommes | k |
16:47.35 | Pommes | but I did a lot on the other laptop to make it work |
16:47.47 | Pommes | don't know what it was though |
17:08.56 | Pommes | when I play the bzflag-wavs with aplay they sound totally normal |
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17:23.10 | Tanksnipe | thanks for groups jeff |
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17:25.08 | dragon3700 | ok, i fiddled with my configuration file for my serve, put in a correct ip address, and now it says that port 5154 is messed up, how do i fix that? |
17:25.17 | Tanksnipe | ? |
17:25.28 | brad | define "messed up" |
17:25.28 | Tanksnipe | nwats the exact thing it says |
17:25.32 | JeffM2501 | it says "messed up"? |
17:25.37 | JeffM2501 | does it say " in use" ? |
17:25.41 | dragon3700 | bad agument ":5154" |
17:25.45 | dragon3700 | thats what it says |
17:25.47 | Tanksnipe | hmm |
17:25.47 | JeffM2501 | where did you add that? |
17:25.59 | Tanksnipe | do -p5154 in config i think |
17:26.12 | JeffM2501 | -p 5154 |
17:26.15 | JeffM2501 | it needs a space |
17:26.18 | dragon3700 | ok, one sec |
17:26.25 | Tanksnipe | forgot space =) |
17:26.31 | JeffM2501 | then add the :5154 as part of your -publicaddr |
17:26.35 | JeffM2501 | INSIDE the qotes |
17:26.39 | JeffM2501 | not as it's own argument |
17:29.24 | Tanksnipe | jeff now that i got groups how do i set them up |
17:29.32 | dragon3700 | thanks guys |
17:29.52 | Tanksnipe | i added people to the groups form the forum interface |
17:29.59 | Tanksnipe | from* |
17:31.35 | dragon3700 | thatnks guys |
17:36.07 | Pommes | fixed my sound-problem |
17:36.32 | Pommes | I set the bzflag-sounddriver to "alsa" and device to "plughw:0" |
17:36.40 | Pommes | now it works fine. |
17:36.55 | Pommes | a miracle |
17:37.51 | Tanksnipe | anybody wanna help me with gruops |
17:38.00 | Tanksnipe | im stuck |
17:38.42 | JeffM2501 | what else do you need to do? |
17:38.51 | JeffM2501 | did you add permisions for them in your local groups file? |
17:40.19 | Upsetter | congratz Pommes :) |
17:40.22 | Tanksnipe | i dont have one yet |
17:40.36 | Tanksnipe | going to make it now |
17:40.43 | Tanksnipe | wat goes in it |
17:40.46 | JeffM2501 | with out local group defs, global groups are pointless |
17:40.53 | JeffM2501 | the permisions you want each group to have |
17:41.06 | Tanksnipe | wat goes in them |
17:41.11 | JeffM2501 | permision names |
17:41.20 | JeffM2501 | did you read the fourms on global login and groups at all? |
17:41.21 | Tanksnipe | ok |
17:41.24 | Tanksnipe | yea |
17:41.46 | Tanksnipe | so i put Tanksnipe.admin: |
17:41.52 | Tanksnipe | then followed by permission |
17:42.01 | JeffM2501 | don't say you read them if you didn't |
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17:42.09 | Tanksnipe | -.- |
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17:42.18 | JeffM2501 | cus the post on it tells you EXACTLY what to put in tem |
17:42.21 | Tanksnipe | ok |
17:42.32 | JeffM2501 | if you didn't just say "No" |
17:42.41 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6516 |
17:42.49 | Tanksnipe | i did just didnt pay attention =p |
17:42.53 | JeffM2501 | that has a full listing of exactly what to do for global groups |
17:42.55 | JeffM2501 | then you didn't read it |
17:43.05 | JeffM2501 | don't play games with our time. |
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18:09.15 | Tanksnipe | hey jeff i did wat it said on forums but its not working |
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18:31.40 | Tanksnipe | td |
18:31.43 | Tanksnipe | hi |
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19:35.00 | Tanksnipe | Jeff u here |
19:35.41 | JeffM2501 | yes |
19:36.01 | Tanksnipe | umm i made the groups fiel and everythigf |
19:36.17 | Tanksnipe | nbut now when i try to use the /setgroup cammoand it says disabled |
19:36.26 | Tanksnipe | command* |
19:36.28 | JeffM2501 | yeah cus you don't do that |
19:36.31 | JeffM2501 | that's for local |
19:36.37 | JeffM2501 | you add users to the group on the forums |
19:36.46 | Tanksnipe | hmm well i did |
19:36.55 | JeffM2501 | then that's al you have to do |
19:36.58 | Tanksnipe | umm is bzflag case sensative |
19:37.06 | JeffM2501 | other then tell bzfs to use the group file |
19:37.09 | JeffM2501 | with -groupdb |
19:37.12 | JeffM2501 | depends on your OS |
19:37.19 | Tanksnipe | did that |
19:37.23 | Tanksnipe | linux |
19:37.26 | Tanksnipe | here |
19:37.33 | JeffM2501 | yes it is cas senstive |
19:37.39 | Tanksnipe | u put TankSnipe add group moderator |
19:37.44 | Tanksnipe | nshoudlnit be tanksnipe |
19:37.53 | JeffM2501 | nope |
19:37.54 | Tanksnipe | or Tanksnipe |
19:38.08 | JeffM2501 | bb isn' |
19:38.09 | JeffM2501 | t case |
19:38.24 | Tanksnipe | then idk wats wrong |
19:38.39 | JeffM2501 | is your server public and listed? |
19:38.52 | Tanksnipe | nyes |
19:38.55 | Tanksnipe | yes |
19:39.27 | JeffM2501 | you get a + when you join it? |
19:39.44 | Tanksnipe | yup |
19:40.00 | JeffM2501 | what perms did you add to your groups? |
19:40.10 | Tanksnipe | um let me see |
19:40.37 | Tanksnipe | Tanksnipe.owner: +ACTIONMESSAGES +ADMINMESSAGERECEIVE +ADMINMESSAGESEND |
19:40.37 | Tanksnipe | +ANTIBAN +ANTIDEREGISTER +ANTIKICK +ANTIKILL +ANTIPOLL +ANTIPOLLBAN |
19:40.38 | Tanksnipe | +ANTIPOLLKICK +ANTIPOLLKILL +BAN +BANLIST +COUNTDOWN +DATE +ENDGAME |
19:40.38 | Tanksnipe | +FLAGHISTORY +FLAGMASTER +FLAGMOD +IDLESTATS +INFO +KICK +KILL +LAGWARN +LISTPERMS |
19:40.38 | Tanksnipe | +MASTERBAN +MUTE +PLAYERLIST +POLL +POLLBAN +POLLFLAGRESET +POLLKICK |
19:40.38 | Tanksnipe | +POLLKILL +POLLSET +PRIVATEMESSAGE +RECORD +REJOIN +REMOVEPERMS +REPLAY |
19:40.38 | Guu | Bugger all, I dunno. |
19:40.39 | Guu | Wish I knew, Tanksnipe. |
19:40.39 | Tanksnipe | +REQUIREIDENTIFY +SAY +SENDHELP +SETALL +SETPERMS +SETVAR +SHORTBAN |
19:40.41 | Guu | I don't know. |
19:40.41 | Tanksnipe | +SHOWOTHERS +SHUTDOWNSERVER +SPAWN +SUPERKILL +TALK +UNBAN +UNMUTE +VETO |
19:40.41 | JeffM2501 | DUDE |
19:40.42 | Guu | Dunno. |
19:40.43 | Guu | I don't know, Tanksnipe. |
19:40.43 | Tanksnipe | +VIEWREPORTS |
19:40.44 | Guu | I don't have a clue, Tanksnipe. |
19:40.45 | Tanksnipe | Tanksnipe.admin: +ACTIONMESSAGES +ADMINMESSAGERECEIVE +ADMINMESSAGESEND |
19:40.46 | Guu | No idea. |
19:40.47 | Tanksnipe | +ANTIBAN -ANTIDEREGISTER +ANTIKICK +ANTIKILL +ANTIPOLL +ANTIPOLLBAN |
19:40.48 | Guu | No idea. |
19:40.49 | Guu | Wish I knew! |
19:40.51 | Tanksnipe | +ANTIPOLLKICK +ANTIPOLLKILL +BAN +BANLIST +COUNTDOWN +DATE +ENDGAME |
19:40.51 | Guu | Wish I knew, Tanksnipe. |
19:40.53 | Tanksnipe | +FLAGHISTORY +FLAGMASTER -FLAGMOD +IDLESTATS +INFO +KICK +KILL +LAGWARN +LISTPERMS |
19:40.54 | Guu | Dunno. |
19:40.55 | Tanksnipe | -MASTERBAN +MUTE +PLAYERLIST +POLL +POLLBAN +POLLFLAGRESET +POLLKICK |
19:40.57 | Tanksnipe | +POLLKILL +POLLSET +PRIVATEMESSAGE +RECORD +REJOIN +REMOVEPERMS +REPLAY |
19:40.57 | Guu | Bugger all, I dunno! |
19:40.59 | Tanksnipe | +REQUIREIDENTIFY +SAY +SENDHELP +SETALL -SETPERMS +SETVAR +SHORTBAN |
19:41.00 | Guu | I don't know. |
19:41.01 | Tanksnipe | +SHOWOTHERS -SHUTDOWNSERVER +SPAWN -SUPERKILL +TALK +UNBAN +UNMUTE +VETO |
19:41.01 | Guu | I don't have a clue. |
19:41.03 | Tanksnipe | +VIEWREPORTS |
19:41.03 | Guu | I don't know! |
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19:41.17 | donny_baker | hehe |
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19:41.20 | Tanksnipe | what? |
19:41.20 | donny_baker | can you put your group file on pastebin ? http://bzflag.pastebin.ca and post a link back that will work better |
19:41.21 | SportChick | ty JeffM2501 |
19:41.23 | JeffM2501 | don't spam dude |
19:41.26 | JeffM2501 | not cool |
19:41.28 | Tanksnipe | nok srry |
19:41.34 | Tanksnipe | ok* |
19:42.45 | Tanksnipe | real srry bout that |
19:43.12 | JeffM2501 | then if it loads your files, it shuld be fine |
19:44.06 | Tanksnipe | yea it says using file "group.txt" |
19:44.14 | Tanksnipe | in terminal |
19:44.39 | JeffM2501 | and if you list your perms in game, what does it show? |
19:45.14 | Tanksnipe | how would i do that |
19:45.26 | JeffM2501 | showperms or list perms |
19:45.27 | JeffM2501 | I think |
19:45.33 | donny_baker | use /showperms |
19:45.34 | Tanksnipe | ok |
19:45.38 | JeffM2501 | don't remember the exact command |
19:47.57 | Tanksnipe | yea i got none of the admin perms |
19:49.56 | JeffM2501 | and you added your name to the group membership? |
19:50.51 | Tanksnipe | im the moderator it wont elt me |
19:51.28 | Tanksnipe | it says user is alreayd member of this group |
19:54.34 | donny_baker | you are typing /showperms exactly? |
19:54.37 | Tanksnipe | does the group type matter? |
19:54.43 | Tanksnipe | nyea did that |
19:54.51 | JeffM2501 | nope |
19:54.52 | donny_baker | and the exact error message? |
19:55.06 | JeffM2501 | try a simpler group def |
19:55.13 | Tanksnipe | no error |
19:55.22 | Tanksnipe | just regular perm |
19:55.44 | Tanksnipe | wat u mean jeff? |
19:56.10 | Tanksnipe | i tried a blank groups file.... |
19:56.26 | JeffM2501 | well that won't give you any perms |
19:56.29 | JeffM2501 | just try one perm |
19:56.31 | JeffM2501 | see if you get it |
19:56.35 | Tanksnipe | ok |
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20:00.21 | Tanksnipe | finally a breakthrough i go it |
20:00.21 | KTL | mmm TEST |
20:00.27 | Tanksnipe | ngot |
20:00.29 | KTL | (is guu a bot?) |
20:00.30 | Tanksnipe | got |
20:00.36 | Tanksnipe | yes and a spammer |
20:00.53 | KTL | you or guu :D |
20:01.00 | Tanksnipe | guu |
20:01.25 | JeffM2501 | no, YOU are a spamer, not the bot |
20:01.34 | KTL | 2 m's |
20:01.39 | Tanksnipe | nhe spammed too |
20:01.44 | Tanksnipe | i can prove it =p |
20:01.51 | JeffM2501 | don't go there |
20:01.56 | JeffM2501 | it's cus you used her controll character |
20:01.57 | Tanksnipe | i wont |
20:02.07 | KTL | so the moment you start doing long posts he replies with dunno :D |
20:02.08 | Tanksnipe | ok i got the perm |
20:02.16 | JeffM2501 | then your big groups file is wrong |
20:02.22 | Tanksnipe | yea |
20:02.23 | KTL | ah controll char |
20:02.27 | JeffM2501 | add perms till it dosn'work |
20:02.30 | Tanksnipe | ill add one by 1 i guess |
20:02.32 | KTL | <PROTECTED> |
20:02.39 | Tanksnipe | ty for help |
20:02.56 | Tanksnipe | how do i make it show @ instead of + |
20:02.57 | KTL | +t |
20:02.57 | Guu | I don't know, KTL. |
20:03.01 | KTL | hehehehe |
20:03.31 | KTL | paste it in your fav text editor |
20:03.39 | KTL | and find-replace the +'es |
20:04.19 | KTL | +help |
20:04.19 | Guu | KTL: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
20:04.56 | Tanksnipe | nvm |
20:05.08 | JeffM2501 | have ban and kick |
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20:34.00 | Pommes | my newly compiled bzflag (on linux) keeps crashing when i join a server |
20:34.12 | Pommes | it only happens when I'm trying to join with a registered user |
20:34.40 | Pommes | any idea why that happens? |
20:34.55 | KTL | maybe you took the cvs version |
20:35.00 | Pommes | no |
20:35.23 | Pommes | I compiled the regular 2.0.8 tarball that I also use on another computer |
20:35.58 | Pommes | and it works if I join as a non-registered user |
20:36.46 | Pommes | Chestal told me something about a libcurl-version with a but that could be responsible |
20:36.59 | Pommes | Does anybody know the version of this buggy libcurl? |
20:38.22 | JeffM2501 | .15 was uggy IIRC |
20:38.28 | JeffM2501 | they have newer and older ones that are not |
20:39.16 | Pommes | 7.15 ? |
20:39.39 | Pommes | that's mine |
20:40.06 | catay | 7.15.4 I think |
20:40.09 | Upsetter | Pommes, i am using ubuntu, i have libcurl3 7.15.4.-1ubuntu2 |
20:40.12 | Pommes | yes - exactly |
20:40.17 | Pommes | oh |
20:40.21 | Pommes | nthat's my version |
20:40.26 | Pommes | also on ubuntu |
20:40.34 | Upsetter | and i have this bug too, but a bit different |
20:40.47 | Pommes | I try another version |
20:41.03 | Upsetter | it only crashes when i join a server without loading the serverlist before, even if i just want to rejoin |
20:41.13 | Pommes | hm |
20:41.20 | Pommes | I didn't check carefully perhaps |
20:41.49 | Pommes | yes - you're right |
20:41.58 | Pommes | it works if I load the serverlist first |
20:42.03 | JeffM2501 | yup |
20:42.04 | JeffM2501 | that's the bug |
20:42.12 | Upsetter | yes, dirrty workaround :) but works |
20:42.15 | Pommes | thanks! |
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20:47.50 | ts | JeffM2501: Is the bug in libCURL or inside bz? |
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20:49.03 | dragon3700 | ok, i used the command prompt to check my server earlier, nothing was wrong with it. I try to get on my server, but it says there is an error connecting to it! what do i do? |
20:49.19 | blast007 | ts: it was a bug in libcurl |
20:49.38 | ts | blast007: Is it fixed in newer versions? |
20:49.43 | blast007 | ts: yeah |
20:49.48 | blast007 | or in older versions ;) |
20:49.48 | dragon3700 | so what do i do? |
20:50.01 | blast007 | dragon3700: 1) make sure it's still running, 2) make sure the IP/address is the same |
20:50.14 | dragon3700 | kk, one sec |
20:51.15 | blast007 | ts: it was a bug specific to that version |
20:51.18 | dragon3700 | it says that it is the same, and it is running |
20:51.34 | catay | dragon3700: maybe firewall ? |
20:51.46 | dragon3700 | already checked it |
20:51.54 | dragon3700 | once i found out how : ) |
20:52.26 | blast007 | so it was working earlier, then just stopped? what changed? |
20:53.03 | dragon3700 | well, i tried getting on it earlier, but it said "error connecting to server" on bzflag |
20:53.16 | catay | so it never worked ? |
20:53.16 | dragon3700 | so it wasn't working earlier |
20:53.24 | dragon3700 | right |
20:53.35 | catay | which OS? |
20:53.43 | dragon3700 | windows xp |
20:54.26 | catay | dont have experience with running bzfs on xp |
20:54.50 | dragon3700 | the command prompt says that my public address is "69.54.11.133 :5154" |
20:55.09 | dragon3700 | i typed that in when getting into a server on bzflag |
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20:56.01 | catay | it's running on your local pc ? |
20:56.09 | dragon3700 | yep |
20:58.02 | catay | stop it and just start bzfs without any options |
20:58.10 | catay | and try to connect to localhost 5154 |
20:58.14 | catay | see if that works |
20:58.17 | dragon3700 | kk |
20:58.19 | dragon3700 | brb |
21:00.16 | dragon3700 | it worked, and it came up with the map i made |
21:00.48 | catay | dragon3700: good :) |
21:01.06 | dragon3700 | so how do i make it listen to my stuff? |
21:01.09 | dragon3700 | not localhost? |
21:02.50 | dragon3700 | do yo know |
21:02.51 | catay | http://my.bzflag.org/wiki/index.php/Creating_A_Server |
21:02.55 | catay | read this :) |
21:03.04 | dragon3700 | k |
21:03.17 | dragon3700 | will it tell me how? |
21:03.36 | catay | well, it tells you how to configure a server |
21:04.09 | dragon3700 | kk |
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21:09.52 | dragon3700 | ok, i didnt see anything that i didnt do |
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21:14.49 | dragon3700 | and i just tried, and my server is still on localhost |
21:17.52 | dragon3700 | so, what do i do now? i just read through the configuration section on the wiki. |
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21:20.35 | dragon3700 | plz help me |
21:21.45 | dragon3700 | plz! |
21:24.57 | Tanksnipe | ok |
21:24.59 | Tanksnipe | wats ur problem |
21:25.23 | Flash | dragon3700: it all goes back to your relationship with your mother |
21:25.31 | blast007 | hehehe |
21:25.39 | blast007 | dragon3700: configure your router |
21:25.53 | blast007 | port 5154 isn't open/forwarded properly |
21:26.11 | Tanksnipe | wat os u got |
21:26.22 | blast007 | the OS is irrelevent for the router configuration |
21:26.27 | Tanksnipe | nbut for firewall |
21:26.30 | blast007 | he already has the server working |
21:26.31 | Tanksnipe | but* |
21:26.40 | blast007 | and he said he got the firewall open |
21:26.43 | Tanksnipe | okay... |
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21:27.24 | blast007 | dragon3700: is the server running right now? |
21:27.37 | blast007 | if not, start it... if it is, fix your routing |
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21:36.27 | RatOmeter | ping: eTangenT |
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22:00.27 | isyar | hola brlcad |
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22:19.17 | Joss | hay JeffM2501 |
22:19.56 | Joss | you there? |
22:20.24 | JeffM2501 | yes |
22:21.34 | Joss | what do you think of having normal maps and height maps for the bzflag textures? |
22:21.55 | JeffM2501 | IIRC trepan did some work with shaders |
22:22.02 | JeffM2501 | made it look pretty sweet |
22:22.04 | Joss | and have a option to turn them on? |
22:22.09 | JeffM2501 | you'd have to |
22:22.12 | Joss | oh |
22:22.16 | JeffM2501 | as older cards would not support them |
22:22.32 | JeffM2501 | we have to still run well on non shaders cards |
22:22.32 | Joss | true |
22:22.40 | JeffM2501 | like the GeForce2 and early radeons |
22:23.23 | Joss | has trepan tryed normal maps and height maps? |
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22:23.34 | JeffM2501 | IIRC yes that is what he had the saders use |
22:23.43 | JeffM2501 | but it dosn't mater what he did as that code is gone |
22:23.56 | JeffM2501 | so yes, it has been thought of and it looked pretty good |
22:24.14 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/noshow/relief.jpg |
22:24.26 | JeffM2501 | see ;) |
22:25.05 | Joss | so are you thinking of doing it on the standard textures |
22:25.09 | trepan | plain normal maps are so 1990's :) |
22:26.35 | Joss | true |
22:34.24 | Joss | well JeffM2501 if you do make it so you can turn on and off the texture nor $ hieght maping and do that i could make you some normal maps and height maps so that everything looks real good :-) |
22:34.31 | Joss | &* |
22:34.36 | JeffM2501 | if who makes it? |
22:35.01 | JeffM2501 | as far as I know, no developer is activly working on graphic engine enhancements to our current codebase |
22:35.17 | Joss | if anyone dose |
22:35.30 | Joss | sorry to here that |
22:35.34 | JeffM2501 | big if |
22:35.39 | JeffM2501 | we don't do code asignments |
22:35.45 | JeffM2501 | so people do what they want to do |
22:38.16 | Joss | well sorry if i was using up your time to say about that idea |
22:38.24 | JeffM2501 | oh no, not at all |
22:38.31 | JeffM2501 | ideas are always good :) |
22:38.47 | JeffM2501 | I hope somone does do engine enhancements, I think they are needed |
22:39.09 | JeffM2501 | tho I'd like to see some server side fixes first if it came down to the 2 |
22:40.07 | Joss | oh |
22:41.21 | JeffM2501 | now if tupone's CS work ends up with anything viable, we'll hopefully pick up a lot of nice features for "free" :) |
22:42.57 | Joss | "CS"???? |
22:43.53 | Joss | what are you meaning by CS |
22:43.53 | JeffM2501 | crystal space |
22:43.58 | Joss | ??? |
22:44.24 | Joss | im playing around with crystal space |
22:44.24 | JeffM2501 | it's a 3d engine |
22:44.40 | Joss | yes im using it |
22:44.58 | Joss | it works well with blender |
22:45.03 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
22:46.45 | Joss | so if CS works with BZflag then it would be very easy to make you art stuff |
22:47.55 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
22:48.20 | Joss | i hope it works |
22:48.33 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure it can work |
22:48.39 | JeffM2501 | it's just how much work will it be |
22:48.56 | Joss | true |
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22:54.38 | Tanksnipe | hey jeff thanks for help groups are working perfectly now |
23:38.07 | KTL | grrr, more and more i am getting people dedicated to killing me |
23:38.26 | donny_baker | maybe it is just easy to do ;) |
23:38.28 | KTL | they lower my score extremely |
23:38.35 | blast007 | :) |
23:38.45 | KTL | today i was just ... being slow |
23:39.20 | KTL | just now i had to keep playing for allmost an hour to just shoot 1 blue *--*/-/-/- 4 times. |
23:39.35 | KTL | could not let him go like that hu |
23:40.19 | KTL | and then that harmless logs in and asks - without playing - "strange, how come my enemies are never on this server?" |
23:40.33 | KTL | i distinctively remember killing him down every time !!! |
23:41.42 | KTL | a |
23:41.49 | KTL | in computer graphics |
23:41.55 | KTL | there is the view vector |
23:42.01 | KTL | the direction you look at |
23:42.11 | KTL | but also the rotation of that direction, |
23:42.31 | KTL | as if you would look with your head rotated, or the screen on the side |
23:42.40 | KTL | anyway, that is not used in bzflag at all |
23:43.24 | KTL | i know tanks stay horizontal but ... guess it would make it a bit more alive if your view angle would rotate a bit like that |
23:48.11 | ndim | While cornering? |
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