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| 00:33.46 | bz08 | have a router problem lynksys |
| 00:34.02 | a_meteorite | yeah, I saw your post ;) |
| 00:34.13 | bz08 | cannot run server from command line through router |
| 00:34.43 | bz08 | have port forward 5154 but still no luck |
| 00:34.57 | a_meteorite | did you port forward 5154 udp and tcp? |
| 00:35.09 | bz08 | yes |
| 00:35.23 | bz08 | both |
| 00:35.44 | bz08 | ip setting for ip adress is set to automatic |
| 00:36.02 | a_meteorite | did you set your internal lan ip correctly? |
| 00:36.29 | bz08 | is that done through router setup |
| 00:36.37 | a_meteorite | yes |
| 00:36.52 | a_meteorite | also you need to set -publicaddr and -public for bzfs |
| 00:37.20 | bz08 | is there something on the internet that would help me do this |
| 00:37.32 | a_meteorite | portforward.com |
| 00:37.34 | bz08 | i am not that familiar with setup of router |
| 00:38.21 | bz08 | tried portforward but you have to buy to get version that will change router settings |
| 00:39.18 | view | are you by any chance foreign, or just a lazy typer? |
| 00:39.28 | a_meteorite | you don't need to buy anything |
| 00:39.35 | bz08 | no born and bread in the usa |
| 00:39.36 | a_meteorite | use their manuals for your model |
| 00:39.44 | bz08 | just not a good typist or speller |
| 00:39.47 | bz08 | sorry |
| 00:41.29 | bz08 | by their manuals do you mean linksis |
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| 00:44.45 | bz08 | meteorite are you still there |
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| 00:46.08 | bz08 | thank you for your help |
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| 01:56.17 | wegstar | win 4 |
| 01:56.27 | wegstar | arrghh.. forgot the slash |
| 01:57.07 | bryjen | ~slash wegstar |
| 01:57.08 | ibot | ACTION slices wegstar in two with a samurai sword. |
| 01:57.25 | wegstar | :( |
| 01:57.31 | wegstar | ~lart bryjen |
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| 04:16.00 | Flash | I just updated 2.0 from CVS and autogen failed |
| 04:16.10 | Flash | Preparing build ... plugins/SAMPLE_PLUGIN/Makefile.am:6: invalid unused variable name: `serverControl_la_LIBADD' |
| 04:23.40 | view | I think that's a new plugin |
| 04:26.53 | Flash | all I know is that my autogen is now broke |
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| 04:36.53 | brlcad | Flash: it sounds like you didn't do an update -dP |
| 04:37.04 | Flash | yes, I did |
| 04:37.09 | Flash | I even did a fresh check out |
| 04:37.16 | Flash | same result |
| 04:37.24 | Flash | oop... too fast on the keys |
| 04:37.43 | Flash | I did a fresh check out, I don't know about update -dP.... stand by |
| 04:37.44 | brlcad | ahh, it was copied in |
| 04:38.00 | brlcad | the error is valid, the .am has a line that doesn't belong |
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| 04:38.37 | Flash | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 04:39.41 | brlcad | yes yes.. I just said the error is valid |
| 04:40.10 | Flash | just need to be doing something while I'm waiting for someone(tm) to fix it .... |
| 04:41.06 | brlcad | that's actually a pretty good example automake error that you should be able to recognize and fix |
| 04:41.18 | brlcad | exactly what the error says is true |
| 04:41.25 | Flash | oh.... I need to learn automake now? ;-) |
| 04:42.35 | brlcad | not really, but recognizing common typo/name errors in a Makefile.am is a good skill for any autotools project |
| 04:42.36 | Flash | so just remove line 6? I remember some discussion about libplutin_utils |
| 04:42.53 | Flash | or change to SAMPLE_PLUGIN |
| 04:43.07 | brlcad | either one of those will fix it |
| 04:44.08 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03brlcad 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/SAMPLE_PLUGIN/Makefile.am: copy typo, should say SAMPLE_PLUGIN |
| 04:46.12 | Thumper_ | brlcad: oops thanks |
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| 05:14.42 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/autogen.sh: |
| 05:14.42 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: updates from cad. major modification, now supporting projects that don't use |
| 05:14.42 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: one or more of the various autotools (e.g. not using automake, libtool, |
| 05:14.42 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: autoheader, libtool). also now supports projects that have recursive configures |
| 05:14.42 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: that go more than one level deep. |
| 05:15.24 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03brlcad 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/autogen.sh: merge from head, updates supporting recursive configures and optional autotools |
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| 05:18.03 | Bz_Win | later |
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| 05:49.26 | Flash | gack! |
| 05:49.38 | Flash | 2.0 must be nearing final death..... |
| 05:49.46 | Flash | configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in misc ./misc |
| 06:06.46 | Flash | how can I explicitly checkout a previous version of autogen.sh from cvs? |
| 06:11.19 | Thumper_ | cvs up -r 2.12.2.3 autogen.sh |
| 06:11.23 | Thumper_ | I think |
| 06:20.16 | Flash | brlcad: 22:15 < CIA-1> BZFlag: brlcad v2_0branch * bzflag/autogen.sh: merge from head, updates supporting recursive configures and optional autotools |
| 06:20.21 | Flash | I think this is broken |
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| 07:51.29 | brlcad | Flash: I need more information than that |
| 07:51.39 | brlcad | maybe pastebin a verbose run |
| 07:54.39 | Flash | I'm looking back for the specific, but I did a fresh bz20cvs; autogen.sh; ./configure <--fails immediately |
| 07:56.39 | Flash | not verbose, but http://flash.pastebin.ca/372735 |
| 07:56.51 | Flash | is --verbose an option to autogen.sh? |
| 08:03.05 | Flash | ok, verbose output is a little more revealing.... http://flash.pastebin.ca/372745 |
| 08:03.14 | Flash | but only a little |
| 08:03.31 | Flash | it looks like the warning about libtoolize is more than a warning |
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| 08:27.48 | brlcad | wow, several things going wrong there |
| 08:28.09 | brlcad | what OS is that? |
| 08:28.31 | Flash | mac os 10.3 |
| 08:28.37 | brlcad | curiously, the project name detection code hasn't changed one bit |
| 08:29.45 | Flash | I thought the project name was explict in the new version? http://bzflag.cvs.sourceforge.net/bzflag/bzflag/autogen.sh?r1=2.12.2.2&r2=2.12.2.2.2.1 |
| 08:29.55 | Flash | or are those the wrong versions? |
| 08:29.57 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10admin/master-bans.txt: new CRW ip |
| 08:31.17 | brlcad | those aren't consecutive versions |
| 08:31.30 | brlcad | maybe on the branch they are, but there's several revisions there |
| 08:31.46 | Flash | ok, the web interface was a bit daunting |
| 08:32.22 | Manu | brlcad: doesn't CRW uses dynamic ip? |
| 08:32.22 | brlcad | i presume you're working off of 2.0 branch? |
| 08:32.28 | brlcad | Manu: yes |
| 08:32.36 | Flash | yes |
| 08:32.41 | Flash | 23:11 < Thumper_> cvs up -r 2.12.2.3 autogen.sh |
| 08:32.46 | Flash | that version worked |
| 08:33.09 | brlcad | that's good to know, though that's jumping back a couple months |
| 08:33.27 | Flash | ok. |
| 08:33.27 | Manu | brlcad: but you are banning only an IP not a range, right? |
| 08:33.37 | Flash | I have to sleep now. Thanks for your help |
| 08:33.40 | brlcad | Manu: yes |
| 08:33.51 | brlcad | Flash: thx for the report, I'll look into it |
| 08:34.18 | Manu | and do you think is it useful? I can see how he changes his ip everytime is banned |
| 08:35.07 | brlcad | it basically fails to detect that you need libtool for some reason, and since it falls back to manual steps because of apple's bogus libtool install, it skips libtool which leaves you in a bad state |
| 08:35.16 | brlcad | not the best wording, but the details are a bit tedious |
| 08:35.22 | brlcad | Manu: yep, it's useful |
| 08:35.30 | Manu | brlcad: at the end you'll ban 255*255*255 IP :) |
| 08:35.45 | brlcad | not necessarily |
| 08:36.03 | brlcad | he can't get an ip on any subnet, he's been somewhat limited to a handful |
| 08:36.13 | brlcad | and they seem to take him longer each time |
| 08:36.45 | brlcad | and I'm betting it takes me less effort to ban him than it takes him to acquire a new one |
| 08:37.09 | Manu | his isp provider has this: SBC Internet Services SBCIS-SIS80 (NET-69-148-0-0-1) 69.148.0.0 - 69.155.255.255 |
| 08:37.23 | Manu | I have banned him and in a few seconds he was in again with a new ip |
| 08:37.38 | Manu | so I guess is harder for us to ban thim |
| 08:38.02 | Manu | what I do now is to kill him with educative messages so he leaves :) |
| 08:38.04 | brlcad | i've been watching the logs for days |
| 08:38.17 | Manu | but you know it :) |
| 08:38.58 | brlcad | he doesn't change that frequently all the time |
| 08:39.21 | Manu | let's see what happens then :) |
| 08:39.23 | brlcad | i mean, if I really have to -- I can automate his bannings |
| 08:40.10 | brlcad | i already have it auto-report to me whenever he has a new IP |
| 08:40.22 | Manu | :) |
| 08:40.43 | brlcad | right now, it's down to a copy-paste, save buffer, cvs commit .. takes all of 15 seconds at most |
| 08:40.44 | Manu | the last times I saw him, his lag was really high so I think he is using some dial up :) |
| 08:41.20 | brlcad | he didn't start changing IPs until I started adding the global bans |
| 08:41.36 | brlcad | at least they were much less frequent |
| 08:41.37 | Manu | yes, it's true |
| 08:41.53 | brlcad | and if he got banned from one server, he'd just go to another |
| 08:42.14 | brlcad | now it kicks him off, and he has to get a new IP to do anything |
| 08:42.55 | Manu | who is this guy, DB? |
| 08:42.57 | brlcad | and he's still independently blocked from the list server no matter what the ip so he has no in-game server list most of the time |
| 08:43.27 | brlcad | i don't really know or care |
| 08:43.56 | Manu | he was very active when Molez and DB |
| 08:44.01 | Manu | :) |
| 08:44.14 | Manu | I see :) |
| 08:45.39 | brlcad | ahhh, I see.. |
| 08:45.54 | brlcad | old configure.ac used AC_INIT from 2.13 autoconf days |
| 08:46.07 | brlcad | instead of newer AC_INIT(...) |
| 08:47.10 | brlcad | hrmph.. there actually is no embedded project name to key off of other than AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE's decl |
| 08:56.31 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/autogen.sh: support projects that use the older/deprecated arg-less AC_INIT and instead search for an AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE declaration hopefully instead. also fix a couple missing 'no' typos during manual processing. |
| 08:59.10 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03brlcad 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/autogen.sh: merge from HEAD, this branch actually uses the old AC_INIT syntax |
| 08:59.43 | brlcad | Flash: when you get a chance, see if that helps |
| 09:00.30 | brlcad | oh yeah, I was going to put in another check for his different libtool error too.. |
| 09:05.34 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/autogen.sh: some versions of automake report apple's dumb libtoolize problem differently, so try to be more general. |
| 09:07.02 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03brlcad 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/autogen.sh: minor update from head |
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| 18:00.09 | Bz_Win | Horay... 22" monitor :D |
| 18:05.09 | JeffM2501 | what res? |
| 18:18.17 | JBdiGriz | 1024x760 ;-) |
| 18:18.38 | JeffM2501 | for a TV that'd be prety tood :) |
| 18:18.40 | JeffM2501 | good |
| 18:19.04 | JBdiGriz | Nobody told him it was actually an LCD TV. |
| 18:19.24 | JeffM2501 | I know a couple people with weak eyesight that want some displays like that |
| 18:19.28 | JeffM2501 | large, but lower reses |
| 18:19.37 | JBdiGriz | Big Pixels |
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| 18:20.13 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:20.41 | JeffM2501 | I want to convince work to get a 42 inch LCD TV and put it into the confrence room table |
| 18:21.02 | JeffM2501 | then put a small shuttle PC under the table, and use the nvidia display rotator to spin it however is needed. |
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| 18:27.33 | Bz_Win | jeff: 1050x1680 |
| 18:27.47 | Bz_Win | only 60hz, tho :( |
| 18:29.12 | JeffM2501 | crt? |
| 18:30.17 | Bz_Win | LCD |
| 18:30.36 | Bz_Win | It wouldn't fit on my desk if it was a CRT |
| 18:32.36 | JeffM2501 | dvi or vga? |
| 18:32.49 | Bz_Win | hehe |
| 18:32.53 | Bz_Win | hate that question :p |
| 18:33.04 | Bz_Win | VGA... silly video card only displays up to 1600 wide |
| 18:33.09 | Bz_Win | on DVI |
| 18:33.25 | JeffM2501 | then the refresh dosn't realy mean much |
| 18:34.29 | Bz_Win | No, I am using VGA |
| 18:34.44 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 18:35.10 | JeffM2501 | the LCD still dosn't have a normal refresh cycle |
| 18:35.18 | Bz_Win | oh... |
| 18:36.12 | Tupone | but the things are refreshing at <= 60 Hz if using VGA at 60 H |
| 18:36.42 | Tupone | is a kind of bottleneck |
| 18:36.54 | Bz_Win | Hmm. |
| 18:37.00 | Bz_Win | Maybe I should get a new video card.. |
| 18:37.34 | Tupone | real refresh, if that could be defined at all, is the speed of video, but things cannot be updated more fastly then 60 times x sec |
| 18:38.31 | Tupone | or maybe 60 is enough for you |
| 18:39.10 | Bz_Win | BZFlag ends up being..uhh...squishy almost |
| 18:39.16 | Bz_Win | No real sharp lines |
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| 19:13.32 | JeffM2501 | Bz_Win, make sure that BZ is set to run at the pannels native res |
| 19:13.41 | JeffM2501 | if it runs any other res, it'll interp and look blurry |
| 19:13.52 | JeffM2501 | that is generaly not a refresh issue, but a resolution issue. |
| 19:14.12 | JeffM2501 | your BZ is probalby still set at the old res you used to run on your old display |
| 19:14.26 | Bz_Win | jeff: Fixed it a few min ago, thats why :p |
| 19:14.29 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 19:14.33 | Bz_Win | thx for your help |
| 19:14.40 | JeffM2501 | sure |
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| 22:05.25 | Tupone | dunno why I have to revert the Y axis :/ |
| 22:07.26 | JeffM2501 | is there default orientation the same as openGL |
| 22:07.32 | JeffM2501 | GL does not have Z as "up" in a default 3d context |
| 22:08.13 | JeffM2501 | we do what ammounts to a 90 deg rotation around X to get the Z to be up and Y to go "into" the screen |
| 22:08.23 | Tupone | I put 0, 0, 1 as up |
| 22:08.44 | JeffM2501 | oh, you using there camera? |
| 22:08.45 | Tupone | http://www.crystalspace3d.org/docs/online/api-1.0/classcsReversibleTransform.php#10ce5361544cb5cb59f259f677879769 |
| 22:09.17 | JeffM2501 | that should be similar to what we do then |
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| 22:13.10 | philbrick34 | hmmm where tdlinuxxxxxxx |
| 22:13.13 | philbrick34 | i needhim |
| 22:13.34 | brad | +seen td-linux |
| 22:13.35 | Guu | brad: td-linux was last seen in #bzflag 1 day, 3 hours, 40 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <TD-Linux> server back up.. |
| 22:13.55 | philbrick34 | wel done thanks |
| 22:14.12 | CBG | pm him on the bzbb ? |
| 22:17.48 | Tupone | If I don't revert one of the axis, I go left, and seems going right |
| 22:18.12 | JeffM2501 | odd |
| 22:18.23 | JeffM2501 | maybe they use a lefthanded system |
| 22:20.18 | brlcad | insanity |
| 22:20.35 | Tupone | I'm going to commit my code, so you can see |
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| 22:21.18 | Tupone | maybe I just reverted the joystick. Maybe I try with keyboard |
| 22:25.15 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, many cnc machines use a left handed system |
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| 22:28.52 | Tupone | with keyboard I have the same problem. |
| 22:29.03 | Tupone | ok. I'm going to commit my result |
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| 22:35.49 | brlcad | JeffM2501: yeah, just more insanity |
| 22:35.56 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 22:36.06 | brlcad | 90% of the industry went right-handed a long time ago |
| 22:36.35 | JeffM2501 | manual machine -> CNC upgrade ;) |
| 22:36.42 | brlcad | the only place there's still disagreement of sorts, or at least a 50/50ish split is whether z or y is up ;) |
| 22:36.59 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03atupone 07v2_0_cs_branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (bzflag.cxx playing.cxx playing.h): Moving the camera in an empty box, like is the tank |
| 22:37.43 | Tupone | well, if anybody want to try ... running a localserver and ./bzflag -solo=10 localhost |
| 22:37.44 | JeffM2501 | aperantly you don't do much in the multi-spindle/multi-turret lathe world :) |
| 22:38.03 | JeffM2501 | I've seen machiens where one turret is RHR, the other is LHR, as all they did was flip Y |
| 22:38.24 | JeffM2501 | or just flip Z, that's the common thing |
| 22:38.53 | Tupone | maybe I can try to change the up? |
| 22:39.10 | JeffM2501 | no, we do Z up |
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| 22:39.32 | Tupone | ye, otherwise I get the terrain above :) |
| 22:42.35 | brlcad | JeffM2501: i don't have to do much with them.. industry-wide, they're still in that 10% |
| 22:43.13 | Tupone | not for today, but is there a model of the tank, enough similar to the current one, done with blender or some standard format I can feed to CS? Integration could be my next couple weeks jobs |
| 22:44.14 | Tupone | same/near number of triangle possibly |
| 22:47.51 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, I have it as an OBJ file |
| 22:47.56 | JeffM2501 | it is our exact tank model |
| 22:47.59 | JeffM2501 | sans treads |
| 22:48.01 | JeffM2501 | if you want it |
| 22:48.24 | Tupone | good |
| 22:48.39 | Tupone | obj is for blender? |
| 22:48.49 | JeffM2501 | blender can read OBJ |
| 22:48.55 | JeffM2501 | it's somewhat of a standardised format |
| 22:48.57 | JeffM2501 | most apps read it |
| 22:49.31 | JeffM2501 | I can email if DCC dosn't work |
| 22:49.53 | Tupone | I see the offer, but no way to accept :/ |
| 22:50.16 | JeffM2501 | want me to send it to the e-mail in your bzbb account? |
| 22:50.52 | JeffM2501 | on it's way |
| 22:50.57 | Tupone | thanks |
| 22:51.07 | JeffM2501 | it's the exact tank, I wrote an app that dumps the GL calls out to a mesh |
| 22:51.32 | Tupone | I will see what I can do with it :) At least trying to fill my empty world |
| 22:51.38 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 22:54.10 | Manu | :) |
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| 23:28.31 | brlcad | http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Ejvdkuyp/flash/see.htm |
| 23:30.16 | TD-Linux | that's great :) |
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| 23:53.09 | Constitution | What's all of the "V1" stuff about in the bzfsAPI.h for CVS HEAD? |
| 23:55.01 | JeffM2501 | the event classes are versioned |
| 23:55.10 | JeffM2501 | it's so older plugins can be run in newer servers |
| 23:55.21 | Constitution | oh |
| 23:55.26 | JeffM2501 | if we add data, we derive off a new V2 interface with the new data |
| 23:55.37 | JeffM2501 | your old code uses the V1 version, and all works well |