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| 00:17.12 | Goee | so what go on in here? |
| 00:17.32 | Goee | seem dead but maybe cause i join ;) |
| 00:17.42 | brad | ~seen blast007 |
| 00:18.02 | ibot | blast007 <i=blast@pdpc/supporter/active/blast007> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 44m 45s ago, saying: 'the interface is icky'. |
| 00:18.02 | CBG | Hot Steamy discussions about bzflag. |
| 00:19.39 | a_meteorite | that's CBG's fantasy |
| 00:19.48 | Goee | =/ |
| 00:20.08 | CBG | You know it. |
| 00:20.17 | a_meteorite | I wish I didn't. |
| 00:20.24 | Goee | lol |
| 00:21.32 | Goee | do bz work in vista? |
| 00:24.39 | Goee | gueess everyon watch superbowl |
| 00:28.43 | SportChick | go yes, now isn't the best time |
| 00:29.18 | Goee | =D |
| 00:31.04 | spldart | I'm blind! the superbowl commercials! |
| 00:31.59 | Goee | ?? |
| 00:32.10 | a_meteorite | he saw tmi |
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| 01:20.22 | donny_baker | Goee: answer - it depends on your hardware |
| 01:20.43 | donny_baker | the driver for your video card must make openGL support |
| 01:20.54 | donny_baker | s/make/have/ |
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| 01:32.35 | bz80 | After somebody bans from a lvl how do u get back on? |
| 01:32.47 | a_meteorite | you don't |
| 01:33.01 | a_meteorite | you can ask the owner or the admin banned you nicely to unban you though |
| 01:33.25 | bz80 | Is there a time limit on the ban? |
| 01:34.03 | bz80 | ???????????????????? |
| 01:34.04 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Sometimes. |
| 01:34.34 | bz80 | How can it be sometimes? |
| 01:34.57 | a_meteorite | brad: :P |
| 01:35.16 | a_meteorite | bz80: it depends what they set it too |
| 01:35.22 | a_meteorite | what was the ban reason? and where were you banned at? |
| 01:35.39 | bz80 | lang and the two tanks |
| 01:35.51 | Gnurdux | you could apologiz |
| 01:35.51 | Gnurdux | e |
| 01:36.17 | a_meteorite | yeah, being there it was probably a permaban |
| 01:36.26 | bz80 | i don't know where he is |
| 01:36.28 | a_meteorite | they're not exactly.. *ahem* the greatest admins there |
| 01:37.27 | bz80 | how would i find him? |
| 01:37.40 | bz80 | so i can apologize |
| 01:38.04 | a_meteorite | who banned you? |
| 01:38.29 | bz80 | His name is " A Heart Attack" |
| 01:38.57 | a_meteorite | what is your bzflag callsign? |
| 01:38.58 | Gnurdux | oh |
| 01:39.05 | Gnurdux | i can probably persuade him |
| 01:39.08 | a_meteorite | you can give him a private message on the forums |
| 01:39.10 | Gnurdux | he like worships me |
| 01:39.19 | Gnurdux | whats your callsign, ill get him to unban |
| 01:39.22 | bz80 | skywlker77 |
| 01:39.26 | a_meteorite | lol |
| 01:39.28 | bz80 | skywalker77 |
| 01:39.40 | a_meteorite | I could persuade him too :P |
| 01:39.42 | a_meteorite | anyone could |
| 01:40.07 | bz80 | cool ty |
| 01:40.33 | Gnurdux | oh hes not on |
| 01:40.54 | bz80 | ty anyways |
| 01:41.52 | bz80 | How do u become an Admin? |
| 01:41.59 | a_meteorite | you be good and don't ask for it |
| 01:42.03 | a_meteorite | and hope someone notices you |
| 01:42.13 | Gnurdux | it depends |
| 01:42.47 | a_meteorite | basically that's how it goes |
| 01:42.55 | a_meteorite | unless you want to be anti-spam's admin or something |
| 01:46.51 | spldart | Skywalker!?!?! |
| 01:47.02 | spldart | That sounds strangely familiar |
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| 02:09.49 | brad | ~jeffm2501++ |
| 02:09.54 | brad | for the torBlock plugin |
| 02:10.14 | brad | great for script-kiddies like a_meteorite away |
| 02:10.20 | a_meteorite | huh? |
| 02:10.44 | brad | don't try and deny it, I have logs ;) |
| 02:10.55 | a_meteorite | what? |
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| 02:59.33 | donny_baker | COLTS WIN!!!! COLTS WIN!!!! |
| 03:03.22 | spldart | yeppers |
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| 05:57.47 | ibot | brlcad is currently on #bzflag (9h 20m 28s) #brlcad (9h 20m 28s). Has said a total of 688 messages. Is idling for 9h 9m 27s, last said: 'gotta run before it gets too late, but good to see you too.. *hugs*'. |
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| 06:46.31 | SportChick | brlcad: around? |
| 06:53.11 | brlcad | not really |
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| 06:56.14 | fiberchunks | brlcad: I'll try and get with you tomorrow morning (if I wake up at a decent hour :) ) |
| 06:56.58 | SportChick | brlcad: darn, you missed him again - caivax was back :( |
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| 18:02.35 | ts | JeffM2501: Do tanks always show the flag they picked up to others? Can it be they pick up Cloak and it shows GM on scoreboard? |
| 18:05.40 | JeffM2501 | the flag grab message from the server has the flag type in i |
| 18:05.42 | JeffM2501 | it |
| 18:05.56 | JeffM2501 | that's why you see "player XXX has picked up the YYYY flag" in chat |
| 18:06.36 | JeffM2501 | it's possible a server could be moded to change that info so you don't see the correct flag they got |
| 18:07.05 | JeffM2501 | in 2.0.x it's also possible for a client to just grab any flag they want on pickup IIRC |
| 18:09.52 | ts | Hrm, so it is not save :( |
| 18:11.49 | JeffM2501 | not on 2.0.x |
| 18:11.59 | JeffM2501 | in 2.1 the flag type is comptued by the server |
| 18:12.07 | JeffM2501 | even the picup is done at the server level |
| 18:13.20 | Goee | 2.0 has distant check though for flag grabs |
| 18:13.46 | Goee | in log at leasts |
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| 18:14.13 | JeffM2501 | some versions of it do, yes |
| 18:14.15 | JeffM2501 | not all |
| 18:15.04 | Goee | well most server run new version right? |
| 18:15.09 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 18:15.31 | JeffM2501 | it runs the gammut |
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| 18:25.52 | Goee | the check is in 2.0.0 even |
| 18:26.17 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 18:26.43 | JeffM2501 | I know for a fact that there are cheats for 2.0.x that give flags |
| 18:26.53 | JeffM2501 | they may not use the pickup message, but they exist. |
| 18:30.28 | A-Delusion | it's also possible for /flaghistory to lie to you, flags stolen with thief do not show up on the player who did the stealing's history |
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| 18:50.37 | JeffM2501 | ohy, 2.5 days sans interweb makes for a long bzbb read on monday :/ |
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| 19:42.05 | JeffM2501 | anyone against the idea of changing fourm rank to just relate to the time since registration? |
| 19:43.03 | donny_baker | it would cut down on the people who post junk to just boost their rank (I hope) |
| 19:43.09 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
| 19:43.12 | Thumper_ | works for me :) |
| 19:43.21 | JeffM2501 | I could also just remove them |
| 19:43.25 | ts | Yeah, let those people get the "wtf" rank |
| 19:43.31 | JeffM2501 | but I sorta like having them |
| 19:43.32 | ts | Davy.. |
| 19:43.45 | JeffM2501 | I don't see davy having posting privs much longer |
| 19:44.50 | ts | oh? |
| 19:45.01 | JeffM2501 | he's starting to get out of hand |
| 19:45.11 | JeffM2501 | and not responding well to my notices to him. |
| 19:50.19 | JeffM2501 | hmm, or make them be able to buy ranks with donations :) |
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| 20:04.31 | A-Delusion | I donated twice and still couldn't get my custom rank.. Darelicked of Dooty |
| 20:24.27 | CBG | JeffM2501: I can get Davy off the forum, if you will allow me. |
| 20:24.38 | CBG | Remember "smartkid". *snicker* |
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| 20:42.27 | L4m3r | ~seen blast007 |
| 20:42.41 | ibot | blast007 <i=blast@pdpc/supporter/active/blast007> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 21h 9m 24s ago, saying: 'the interface is icky'. |
| 20:42.51 | L4m3r | :o |
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| 20:59.59 | JeffM2501 | CBG, the goal is to make him understand, not "get him off the fourm" |
| 21:00.08 | JeffM2501 | I can do that a lot faster then you can. |
| 21:01.49 | CBG | Maybe our goals differ. :) |
| 21:04.59 | JeffM2501 | of that I'm sure |
| 21:05.37 | CBG | But which is best for the community? |
| 21:05.58 | JeffM2501 | the froums are not "the comunity" |
| 21:06.04 | CBG | I'm fairly confident that many were glad of 'smartkid's departure. |
| 21:06.11 | CBG | The forums are a community. |
| 21:06.21 | CBG | Albeit not the entire community of bzflag. |
| 21:06.23 | JeffM2501 | they are one outlet for our community |
| 21:06.40 | JeffM2501 | the community is made of people, the fourms is just a website that takes data from those people |
| 21:06.47 | CBG | A subset of the entire community, I would suggest. |
| 21:06.57 | CBG | The forum users constitute a community. |
| 21:06.58 | JeffM2501 | how he works in with the community at a whole I have no sway over |
| 21:07.11 | JeffM2501 | the fourm users, yes. |
| 21:07.15 | JeffM2501 | that is true |
| 21:07.33 | JeffM2501 | some of Davies posts are informitive |
| 21:07.39 | CBG | Simmantickz. |
| 21:07.47 | CBG | Oh, now you're just being silly. :) |
| 21:07.47 | JeffM2501 | it's just very apperant he's REALY excited to have people listen to him |
| 21:07.55 | JeffM2501 | every one has good and bad points |
| 21:07.56 | JeffM2501 | even you |
| 21:08.29 | CBG | I never claimed to be perfect. :) |
| 21:08.35 | JeffM2501 | never said you did :) |
| 21:08.43 | CBG | If people wanted to "suggest" I retire from the forums, so be it. |
| 21:08.46 | JeffM2501 | but we'll see how he goes |
| 21:08.57 | CBG | Ok, you know where I am if you change your mind. |
| 21:09.03 | JeffM2501 | if need be it's very easy to stop him from posting but still playing |
| 21:09.10 | JeffM2501 | I don't know how he does in the playing fields |
| 21:09.15 | JeffM2501 | on a social level |
| 21:10.10 | CBG | It's hard to say. I would have once said that forum users were, to an extent, geeky and not particularly popular irl more likely than not... |
| 21:10.29 | CBG | But that's no longer the case, there are more forum users now than ever before. :| |
| 21:10.38 | JeffM2501 | registration has seen to that |
| 21:10.50 | CBG | It's, in fact, more 'uncool' to not be in the forum scene. |
| 21:11.02 | CBG | I was talking more in a general sense. |
| 21:11.25 | JeffM2501 | the fourms are becoming a more important part of the generaly playing experience |
| 21:11.32 | JeffM2501 | one reason I'm woried about them |
| 21:12.10 | JeffM2501 | if only I could see where the board computes the freaking rank |
| 21:12.15 | JeffM2501 | it must do it on each post. |
| 21:12.27 | CBG | Scrap the ranks totally. |
| 21:12.34 | JeffM2501 | that is one posibility |
| 21:12.39 | JeffM2501 | and strong one |
| 21:12.45 | CBG | The only people who give a blind bit of notice to them are the munchkins anyway. |
| 21:12.50 | JeffM2501 | tho having it tied to acccount lenght isn't bad |
| 21:13.17 | JeffM2501 | having it tied to time would make it somewhat informitive |
| 21:13.21 | CBG | I could not tell you what my rank was now if you were to ask. Most "serious" users would do the same. |
| 21:13.29 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 21:13.40 | JeffM2501 | hence why ditching it is a valid option |
| 21:13.43 | donny_baker | bet jeff knows his :p |
| 21:13.46 | CBG | Bah, then I lose out... Since I had to re-reg my account... |
| 21:13.47 | JeffM2501 | I just want to weigh all of them |
| 21:14.03 | JeffM2501 | I think I backdated your join date |
| 21:14.11 | JeffM2501 | I know mine cus mine is custom |
| 21:14.16 | JeffM2501 | all the devs have custom ones |
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| 21:14.25 | JeffM2501 | well I can backdate it then :) |
| 21:14.30 | JeffM2501 | that would be easy |
| 21:14.39 | CBG | Cool. :) |
| 21:15.00 | JeffM2501 | the php code for it is wacky |
| 21:15.08 | JeffM2501 | so it may be more trouble then it's worth |
| 21:15.10 | CBG | I first reg'd _around_ Sept 04. |
| 21:15.38 | JeffM2501 | I'd like to talk to the blast about it, but he's gone |
| 21:16.06 | CBG | Yeah, he timed out, iirc, yesterday and never logged back on. :/ |
| 21:16.43 | RatOmeter | I do this: cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@bzflag.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag login |
| 21:17.10 | RatOmeter | and after hitting ENTER at the pwd prompt, I get: "cvs [login aborted]: could not open //.cvspass: No such file or directory" |
| 21:17.27 | JeffM2501 | what OS? |
| 21:17.37 | RatOmeter | Windows |
| 21:17.37 | CBG | Yeah, JeffM2501, currently my join date is set at 12 Apr 2006 - but I'm not particularly concerned. |
| 21:17.42 | JeffM2501 | what cvs client? |
| 21:17.59 | JeffM2501 | CBG, if we swap to date based ranks, I can get that changed. |
| 21:18.02 | brad | JeffM2501: blast has been on bzbb.. you could try sending him a pm there |
| 21:18.13 | JeffM2501 | brad, I know, I'd like to talk live about it tho |
| 21:18.18 | brad | ah |
| 21:18.19 | JeffM2501 | it's not that important :) |
| 21:18.28 | JeffM2501 | RatOmeter, what CVS client do you use? |
| 21:18.29 | CBG | Ok, cool. |
| 21:19.17 | RatOmeter | Hmm, checking |
| 21:19.27 | JeffM2501 | sounds like a command line one. |
| 21:19.32 | RatOmeter | yes |
| 21:19.52 | JeffM2501 | I highly recomend TortoiseCVS |
| 21:20.13 | JeffM2501 | but for you it sounds like it's not setup correctly, it can't find a file where it wants to check/store passwords. |
| 21:21.34 | RatOmeter | ah |
| 21:22.48 | JeffM2501 | if you grabed one of the unix style ports, or the one from cygwin, it may need more stuff installed |
| 21:23.00 | JeffM2501 | thats why I like Tort, all in one, and a nice gui to use. |
| 21:23.39 | RatOmeter | looks like that must be it. I knew I'd had success before and I've just verified that I'm OK running cvs under Cygwin at the bash prompt |
| 21:24.11 | RatOmeter | thanks again |
| 21:24.16 | JeffM2501 | sure |
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| 21:56.13 | Farso | hey |
| 21:57.36 | Farso | Anyone alive? *prod* |
| 21:58.30 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:58.58 | CBG | No prodding the animals! |
| 21:59.25 | Farso | Sorry chaps! |
| 22:00.11 | Farso | Im looking for a chap called Tim Riker, if anyone knows him? |
| 22:00.38 | JeffM2501 | he is known |
| 22:00.42 | JeffM2501 | whatcha need him for? |
| 22:00.57 | TD-Linux | There are plenty of other people here, if it's a techincal problem or something.. |
| 22:01.20 | Farso | Well lets see what you got then :) |
| 22:01.24 | CBG | He's online here right now, but has been idle for an hour. |
| 22:01.41 | JeffM2501 | he's not the only person who works on the game :) |
| 22:01.46 | Farso | Hes not on my list |
| 22:01.54 | JeffM2501 | he's at the top |
| 22:01.55 | Farso | ahh, i see him |
| 22:02.03 | JeffM2501 | 2 below my name |
| 22:02.33 | Farso | Anyway, he has his name credited in a file, sorta how i found this place |
| 22:02.47 | JeffM2501 | yes he is the copyright holder and maintainer |
| 22:02.50 | Farso | I have a stereo system made by philips called the WACS700 |
| 22:03.06 | Farso | It runs on a version of linux (busybox) |
| 22:03.46 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 22:04.07 | Farso | im trying to modify a bin file of an update for it, but it rejects it, im assuming because it can tell its been modified |
| 22:04.16 | TimRiker | Farso: huh? what? |
| 22:04.24 | JeffM2501 | ahh embeded device stuff, not bzflag stuff |
| 22:04.29 | JeffM2501 | and there he is |
| 22:04.41 | Farso | just wondering about the systems checks and so on |
| 22:04.49 | RatOmeter | I was wonder who would be playing a tank game on stereo |
| 22:05.03 | TimRiker | Farso: #eLinux would be a better place for this type of question. |
| 22:05.12 | CBG | RatOmeter: uh, I don't believe (s)he is... |
| 22:05.26 | JeffM2501 | you'll need a real IRC client, not the web one from our game fourms. |
| 22:05.35 | RatOmeter | hehe, I know, CBG |
| 22:05.47 | Farso | Thanks, but i just came across here by tim rikers name |
| 22:06.01 | JeffM2501 | yeah I got that part |
| 22:06.10 | JeffM2501 | you want irc.freenode.net |
| 22:06.19 | RatOmeter | Tim Riker, you've been doing some embedded systems work for Philips? ;) |
| 22:06.21 | JeffM2501 | then #eLinux for the channel |
| 22:06.51 | TimRiker | RatOmeter: well, I do embedded work, and others use it. :) I wish I had a copy of all the hardware my code runs on. |
| 22:07.12 | JeffM2501 | people still ask you for linuxphones? |
| 22:07.16 | Farso | well add a Philips Wacs700 to it mate! :) |
| 22:07.34 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: from time to time. I still have the makings of 8 or so of them. |
| 22:07.38 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 22:07.48 | JeffM2501 | bet the could be nicely upgraded with modern tech now |
| 22:07.50 | TimRiker | Farso: :) |
| 22:07.59 | RatOmeter | Ah, cool. I've done a lot of embedded stuff to, but not Linux based. |
| 22:08.17 | Farso | Its a nice piece of kit, just trying to make it a little better |
| 22:09.55 | JeffM2501 | one of these days I'd like to get a gumstix and see if I could build my ballon project |
| 22:10.12 | JeffM2501 | but I'm rather notorious for not finishing anything :( |
| 22:10.22 | TimRiker | Farso: looks cool. you need to figure out what cpu it runs and what libraries to link against. |
| 22:10.52 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: as oppsed to me, right? cause I _always_ finish things. like that mirroring db server for example. |
| 22:10.58 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 22:11.09 | JeffM2501 | you've got a better long term track record then I :) |
| 22:12.02 | TimRiker | heh. well thanx for that. I just try to have fun on the way. I've been wasting time in SecondLife lately. built an automated ferry that runs between mainlands. it's fun. |
| 22:12.07 | RatOmeter | I found the hard way that getting married and having 2 kids has a negative affect on project completions |
| 22:12.10 | Farso | cheers, i gotta go. I hope to talk soon |
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| 22:12.43 | JeffM2501 | I think I just get distracted too easaly |
| 22:13.03 | JeffM2501 | server side shots may take a backseat to Forsooth if the current winds prevail. |
| 22:13.19 | JeffM2501 | at least I got some stuff done, still have to test the bots and get em to move :( |
| 22:14.39 | RatOmeter | I get distracted too easily too. I think my last on-my-own project that I really "completed" was interfacing a Radio Shack scanner to my PC |
| 22:14.41 | RatOmeter | http://139.78.95.188/ScannerMods/ScannerMod4.jpg |
| 22:14.55 | JeffM2501 | fun |
| 22:15.12 | RatOmeter | used the printer port to bit bang the tuning divisors for the PLL |
| 22:16.51 | RatOmeter | down side was, I had to cut the pins that took the signals I needed to use so they on-board uController wouldn't interfere. Couldn't use it as a handheld anymore |
| 22:17.05 | RatOmeter | Still have the source, if you run DOS ;) |
| 22:19.39 | JeffM2501 | I guess the API is the closest thing I've come to finishing on BZ |
| 22:19.53 | JeffM2501 | I don't consider bzedit "done" |
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| 22:41.51 | JeffM2501 | hmm. need an API message that just sends a vector to add to the tanks current vector :) |
| 22:42.04 | JeffM2501 | so plugins can throw them around like toys :) |
| 22:42.30 | CBG | heh |
| 22:42.52 | CBG | Different to physics? |
| 22:42.57 | JeffM2501 | in addition |
| 22:43.09 | JeffM2501 | basicly leting the API apply physics mods in real time. |
| 22:43.16 | JeffM2501 | tho lag would jack that I'd guess |
| 22:43.23 | JeffM2501 | you could backplot it maybe |
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| 22:54.12 | Erroneous | JeffM2501: you've finished plenty of stuff in bz (weather jumps to mind)...you just tend to not finish the really big projects. Most other people just wouldn't start them :) |
| 23:12.27 | JeffM2501 | I didn't fully finish weather or perms. It took others to finalise them |
| 23:14.03 | Erroneous | by that logic, nobody has ever finished anything around here |
| 23:14.18 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 23:14.20 | Erroneous | except maybe brlcad :) |
| 23:14.29 | JeffM2501 | I did the new shots prety much on my own |
| 23:14.35 | JeffM2501 | but your kinda right |
| 23:14.44 | JeffM2501 | I have a less success rate in other things |
| 23:14.58 | JeffM2501 | probably cus people actualy USE BZ, so I can get feedback and have a reason to finish it |
| 23:16.53 | Erroneous | yay motivation |
| 23:17.11 | JeffM2501 | if we have people that would use Forsooth, that may motivate me on that as well |
| 23:17.25 | JeffM2501 | and I think I have a way I can make it open source, and still sell parts of it :) |
| 23:18.10 | Erroneous | heh :) |
| 23:22.01 | JeffM2501 | I'd probably finish more if I didn't play eq2 as well :) |
| 23:22.09 | JeffM2501 | or keep driving to lancaster |
| 23:33.12 | brlcad | Erroneous: how insulting! |
| 23:33.22 | brlcad | to insinuate that I complete anything .. sheesh |
| 23:34.36 | Erroneous | brlcad: I was thinking of the word filter, actually...the only changes for quite some time have been superficial |
| 23:35.04 | Erroneous | you have plenty of things unfinished, don't think I was suggesting that you were a habitual completionist :) |
| 23:35.10 | brlcad | heh, i wouldn't call that "finished" |
| 23:35.13 | brlcad | it's just been ignored |
| 23:35.25 | Erroneous | if it's good enough to be ignored, it's finished :P |
| 23:35.30 | brlcad | heh |
| 23:35.36 | brlcad | few nasty bugs |
| 23:36.02 | Erroneous | fine then, nobody ever finishes anything around here. happy? :) |
| 23:36.06 | brlcad | it's less than .1% error, but that's enough error to make it annoying |
| 23:36.11 | brlcad | yes! :) |
| 23:43.49 | JeffM2501 | logging is done? |
| 23:44.31 | JeffM2501 | cus if I do it 1/2ass then brlcad can finish it in good concience :) |
| 23:45.24 | Erroneous | naw, then we'll have nothing to bug him about :) |
| 23:45.36 | JeffM2501 | distributed list server. |
| 23:45.56 | Tupone | automake system was finished I think, SDL too, for what I remember I started, bots I once fixed and finished |
| 23:46.21 | JeffM2501 | SDL.. that's a good one, that's totaly done. |
| 23:46.42 | Tupone | font system was finished, from what DTR did, even if I don't like so much |
| 23:46.49 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 23:46.54 | Erroneous | pft...just good enough to be ignored :) |
| 23:47.15 | Erroneous | not really "finished" |
| 23:47.36 | Tupone | I think is the best that could be done with the current rendering engine |
| 23:48.14 | Erroneous | and even then, you had to hack on it a bit to make it not totally slow, so I can't say I finished it :) |
| 23:48.15 | Tupone | "best" as "near best" |
| 23:48.38 | Erroneous | and I didn't start it, I stole the base code from JeffM2501 |
| 23:53.01 | Erroneous | aw, I hope I didn't scare him off :) |
| 23:53.46 | JeffM2501 | I totaly forgot what I wrote that stuff for |
| 23:53.53 | JeffM2501 | it was actualy based off his inital research |
| 23:53.58 | Erroneous | one of your "other projects" |
| 23:54.02 | JeffM2501 | he found ftgl |
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| 23:54.37 | Erroneous | that was after you wrote FM though, right? |
| 23:55.44 | JeffM2501 | that's true |
| 23:55.50 | JeffM2501 | FM was my old stuff that used the images |
| 23:56.00 | JeffM2501 | FTLGFM came after that |
| 23:56.05 | Erroneous | though I'm not sure how much of your code was even left in FM by the time I was done. TextureFont was mostly unchanged though |
| 23:56.33 | JeffM2501 | you could probalby squeep in FTGLFM into bz easaly, if you'd be ok with the dependencies. |
| 23:56.54 | Erroneous | man, our old stuff was really funky. the screen coordinates were totally arbitrary, but were still device dependent |
| 23:57.09 | JeffM2501 | yeah, I was bugged by it cus we couldn't make new fonts |
| 23:57.16 | JeffM2501 | I'm not proud of font tool :( |
| 23:57.43 | JeffM2501 | the FTGL one is slick if I don't say so myself. totaly runs from a TTF |
| 23:57.49 | Erroneous | fonttool was kind of a hack |
| 23:58.26 | JeffM2501 | "kind of"? |
| 23:58.33 | Erroneous | being generous :) |
| 23:58.42 | JeffM2501 | I was frustrated here one night, and then remembered "get pixel!!!" |
| 23:58.54 | Erroneous | even has a copy of my linear png-writing code |
| 23:59.03 | JeffM2501 | first verison wrote out raw image files. |
