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| 01:50.30 | delusional | >ROA13 is Anything worth doing is worth doing for money. |
| 01:57.38 | JeffM2501 | what kinda video card only has directX drivers? |
| 01:57.46 | JeffM2501 | besides vista crap? |
| 02:05.05 | DTRemenak | sis? |
| 02:05.32 | JeffM2501 | at that point just run MS software GL :) |
| 02:05.40 | DTRemenak | yup :) |
| 02:13.45 | blast007 | heck, I think even SiS has OpenGL |
| 02:14.00 | blast007 | at least the one I used back in high school |
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| 02:28.35 | [NP]Tangent | server admins/cops, just an FYI... there's a cheater going around with the name tanks, he's easy to spot cheating. His speed is high and he is wallwalking. |
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| 02:37.15 | blast007 | [NP]Tangent: heh, guess it's good that my servers are offline right now then ;D |
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| 02:49.42 | [NP]Tangent | heh, I'm gonna try and make a map that's all inside a giant sphere |
| 02:53.04 | inchworm | wasn't there such a amp? |
| 02:53.07 | inchworm | *map? |
| 02:53.37 | inchworm | had to get wings in order to go down |
| 02:54.07 | inchworm | or something like that |
| 02:55.13 | [NP]Tangent | can you use ratio with sphere? |
| 02:55.45 | inchworm | don't know, thise sphere was more a layer of rings |
| 02:56.00 | inchworm | or more correctly many rings stacked to form a sphere |
| 03:04.58 | [NP]Tangent | eh |
| 03:05.01 | [NP]Tangent | I'll make a PHP script for it |
| 03:17.03 | delusional | I made a giant birdcage out of rings (arcs) for a wings map once. It worked |
| 03:17.31 | delusional | Had to keep them from flying away with reverse wings gravity |
| 03:21.11 | [NP]Tangent | I bet lasers would be FUN in a giant sphere >:) |
| 03:22.33 | delusional | yeah. with _shotsKeepVerticalVelocity too |
| 03:22.41 | delusional | looks like spirograph |
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| 03:39.25 | [NP]Tangent | this gets dull fast. probably less dull than manually doing it, however. |
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| 04:55.22 | mebigfatguy | set up a circular set of teleporters, and see if you can get an infinite loop of lasers w/o killing yourself |
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| 05:27.16 | [NP]Tangent | BEST IDEA OF THE DAY |
| 05:27.37 | mebigfatguy | wow. slow day ;) |
| 05:27.47 | [NP]Tangent | was on silvercat |
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| 12:12.19 | Belphy | bonjour tout le monde |
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| 18:26.34 | JeffM2501 | hmm maybe I should do another release of bzedit that just brings up a big dialog when you start that explains that it dosn't suport any 2.0 features. |
| 18:27.30 | donny_baker | maybe it should just download blender and open the tutorials web site :p |
| 18:27.46 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:27.47 | JeffM2501 | that would rock |
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| 18:35.33 | All13d | uhhh |
| 18:35.39 | All13d | how to turn on UDP? |
| 18:35.45 | JeffM2501 | it's on by default |
| 18:35.54 | All13d | well apparently it got turned off somehow |
| 18:35.55 | JeffM2501 | if you get the message then your firewall or router is blocking the UDP |
| 18:36.04 | All13d | i can play on all other servers but MoFo kicks me for lacking UDP |
| 18:36.25 | JeffM2501 | then something on your network or ISP is blocking the udp to them |
| 18:36.36 | JeffM2501 | the game no longer has an option to "turn off" UDP |
| 18:36.45 | JeffM2501 | the error message is from when we used to have the option |
| 18:37.01 | JeffM2501 | it will always try UDP, so for some reason it's not geting thru |
| 18:37.04 | All13d | firewall off... |
| 18:37.05 | donny_baker | and i know for a fact that mofo has the require udp turned on on the server |
| 18:37.13 | All13d | i dunno |
| 18:37.14 | JeffM2501 | you have a router? |
| 18:37.16 | All13d | i played just fine last night |
| 18:37.20 | All13d | and nothing changed |
| 18:37.25 | All13d | yeah, dlink 624 |
| 18:37.34 | JeffM2501 | check and make sure it's not set to filter you |
| 18:37.41 | JeffM2501 | or maybe something geeked at your ISP |
| 18:39.22 | All13d | yeah...odd |
| 18:39.30 | All13d | i turned my firewall off and its not giving me UDP errors anymore |
| 18:39.35 | All13d | but now my ping is 7000+ |
| 18:39.41 | All13d | and only on mofo |
| 18:39.50 | JeffM2501 | you have something in your system that is doing something wacky to those packets |
| 18:39.56 | JeffM2501 | a proxy server perhaps? |
| 18:39.58 | JeffM2501 | TOR? |
| 18:40.06 | All13d | dont think so |
| 18:40.14 | All13d | where does bzflag take its proxy settings from? |
| 18:40.18 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't |
| 18:40.23 | JeffM2501 | we don't suport proxys |
| 18:40.31 | JeffM2501 | you'd have to have one at the system level |
| 18:40.56 | All13d | i dont think i do |
| 18:41.13 | JeffM2501 | anyone else able to install things on your computer? |
| 18:43.55 | All13d | yeah but they dont |
| 18:43.59 | All13d | they're totally computer illiterate |
| 18:44.07 | All13d | hmmm |
| 18:44.09 | JeffM2501 | dunno them an |
| 18:44.14 | All13d | added a UDP in/out rule to my firewall |
| 18:44.18 | All13d | (comodo firewall pro) |
| 18:44.27 | All13d | and now ping is down to 1500 ms |
| 18:44.33 | All13d | it used to be 120-150 |
| 18:44.35 | JeffM2501 | you on a satalite connection? |
| 18:44.38 | All13d | nah |
| 18:44.40 | All13d | verizon fiber |
| 18:44.46 | All13d | probably someones downloading a movie next door or something |
| 18:45.02 | JeffM2501 | for fiber, doubtfull |
| 18:45.26 | All13d | ehh |
| 18:45.28 | All13d | you'd be surprised |
| 18:45.41 | All13d | sometimes my connection lags like nobody's business, especially sunday afternoon/evening |
| 18:45.52 | All13d | and is anyone here an admin at mofo? |
| 18:45.55 | JeffM2501 | I thought fiber wasn't suposed to be shared bandwith. |
| 18:46.03 | donny_baker | yes, i am |
| 18:46.09 | All13d | can you reboot it |
| 18:46.12 | donny_baker | no |
| 18:46.13 | All13d | people in mofo are calling for a restart |
| 18:46.18 | All13d | beacuse everyones lagging |
| 18:47.13 | donny_baker | no one is lagging there now |
| 18:47.41 | All13d | agent dad is |
| 18:48.27 | donny_baker | yes, jitter is up right now.... |
| 18:49.04 | All13d | i wish you guys could implement a /poll restart command, or something like that, for whenever it gets too laggy |
| 18:49.29 | All13d | what the hell |
| 18:49.31 | donny_baker | that probably will not fix anything... lag is generally a network issue |
| 18:49.32 | All13d | just booted me for udp again |
| 18:50.22 | JeffM2501 | it sounds like your connection via your ISP is buggy again |
| 18:50.27 | JeffM2501 | I'd call them |
| 18:50.41 | All13d | my parents would kill me, i'm supposed to be writing a term paper ;) |
| 18:50.53 | All13d | i've already told them once that IRC is "multiplayer word" |
| 18:50.55 | All13d | they didnt buy it. |
| 18:51.02 | JeffM2501 | riiiggghhhhttt |
| 18:55.01 | All13d | If you have the agility flag, are you supposed to slow down to normal speed after moving really fast for a little while? |
| 18:55.16 | donny_baker | yes, |
| 18:55.50 | JeffM2501 | it's just so you can dodge stuff |
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| 18:56.24 | All13d | ah ok thanks |
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| 20:15.14 | brlcad | *spellcheck* All13d |
| 20:15.24 | brlcad | my word is buggy |
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| 22:36.26 | JeffM2501 | grrr... agility flag is jacking up my plans..... |
| 22:41.33 | blast007 | remove it ;) |
| 22:41.45 | JeffM2501 | it would make a lot of things easyer |
| 22:41.55 | JeffM2501 | to realy compute speed on the server, we need all the input events |
| 22:42.05 | JeffM2501 | to get an accurate model for Agility |
| 22:42.37 | JeffM2501 | bahh, and handycap is computed on the client too |
| 22:47.18 | brlcad | the agility flag is cool |
| 22:47.31 | JeffM2501 | I know, it just makes it hard :) |
| 22:47.45 | brlcad | hmm.. isn't handicap on both sides? |
| 22:47.46 | JeffM2501 | I think if send the desired speed with the update, I can track that on the server |
| 22:48.04 | JeffM2501 | servr sends wins/losses as handicap |
| 22:48.11 | JeffM2501 | client turns that into the float |
| 22:48.17 | JeffM2501 | based on some other logic |
| 22:48.17 | brlcad | yeah, it computes the metric |
| 22:48.22 | JeffM2501 | I'm gonna change it to just send the metrix |
| 22:48.28 | brlcad | then client determines what to do with that metric |
| 22:48.28 | JeffM2501 | so the server can comptue the logic |
| 22:49.13 | brlcad | that could/should be totally rewritten for moving it server-side |
| 22:49.35 | JeffM2501 | that's what I'm doing |
| 22:49.42 | brlcad | probably something along the lines of limit updates .. server sends an update saying client is allowed this range, these capabliities, etc |
| 22:49.54 | JeffM2501 | cus I need to track it all server side for the bots and other stuff :) |
| 22:50.15 | JeffM2501 | and then just send out a "your movement is modified by THIS" |
| 22:50.22 | JeffM2501 | so it's a dumb terminal |
| 22:51.35 | JeffM2501 | right now I'm just trying to get a function on the server that can take an input paramater 1.0 -> -1.0 and give me the real world desired speed of the tank |
| 22:51.44 | JeffM2501 | taking flags, and handycap, all into account. |
| 22:52.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (GameKeeper.cxx GameKeeper.h): start of a function to compute the a player's proper speed on the server. |
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| 23:59.08 | JeffM2501 | I resisted the urge to name a funciton "iGotSpawned" |