| 00:01.24 | delusional | he acts so innocent it makes me think there is some strange circumstance that would make a player turn fast without purposely cheating. |
| 00:03.15 | JeffM2501 | server use -a? |
| 00:03.28 | delusional | with extremely high values |
| 00:03.42 | JeffM2501 | his rate higher then those values would allow? |
| 00:03.47 | delusional | -a 5000 5000 mofo FFA |
| 00:03.49 | JeffM2501 | wow |
| 00:03.57 | JeffM2501 | so basicly, NO your not using -a :) |
| 00:04.01 | spldart | I was just on with him on hix... didn't check if he was in registered so don't know for sure |
| 00:04.09 | JeffM2501 | could jsut be ME and lag whiping him around |
| 00:04.23 | spldart | seemed normal at that time... of course if he's playing innocent he wouldn't be using a cheat the same day he was cheating |
| 00:05.09 | spldart | lemme go follow him :) |
| 00:07.04 | spldart | hrm.. don't see him on any of the top servers right now heh |
| 00:07.22 | delusional | we banned him before for the same thing, and i lifted it. so i keep an eye on him nowadays.. some other players have said he can back up at the same spped he goes forward, but i havent been able to confirm it |
| 00:08.45 | delusional | one other thing... I have an old record of death barrel at a similar IP, but that means nothing really. |
| 00:09.14 | blast007 | big ISP |
| 00:09.32 | spldart | confirmed it... I was playing him on brad.bz:5157.. he was normal @ that time |
| 00:09.51 | brad | who |
| 00:10.05 | spldart | linuxx0r |
| 00:10.11 | brad | yeah nvm just read up |
| 00:10.14 | spldart | ah |
| 00:10.30 | brad | I should read up->down instead of other way around :) |
| 00:10.40 | spldart | hehe |
| 00:10.55 | spldart | read it like a sideways manga |
| 00:11.37 | brad | :) |
| 00:15.47 | delusional | I guess those extreme -a numbers are a relic from the days of the home-dsl-serving days. |
| 00:27.57 | JeffM2501 | those are so high it's basicly like not having anything |
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| 00:34.49 | delusional | I knew there was something wrong all along, at least we're finally gonna get serious about testing the -a function. wanted to do this for awhile. |
| 00:35.17 | delusional | I'll probably end up thanking linuxx0r for initiating this. |
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| 00:49.39 | spldart | No matter how bad I can lock linux, either by mistake or by experiment or just some sort of unknown bug..... I can always get windows locked worse with commercial software. |
| 00:49.53 | spldart | meh.. commercial,consumer pay for ware |
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| 01:06.09 | biggeruniverse | everyone here from Europe ok? |
| 01:17.03 | spldart | europe had something bad happen? |
| 01:18.29 | biggeruniverse | check the news man |
| 01:18.59 | biggeruniverse | I forgot to ask earlier. |
| 01:20.19 | TD-Linux | where's europe? |
| 01:21.08 | biggeruniverse | it's near Maine |
| 01:21.48 | TD-Linux | oh I see a storm |
| 01:21.50 | biggeruniverse | or, for the FoxNews watchers, NW of New America, Iraq. |
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| 01:22.10 | TD-Linux | 'a storm over europe' quite descriptive. |
| 01:22.51 | inchworm | i'm more or les US centric, but how hard is it to find Europe? |
| 01:23.18 | TD-Linux | hmm... must have been an awful big storm. |
| 01:23.31 | TD-Linux | There's a lot of water (and land, for that matter) between here and Eurpoe. |
| 01:23.35 | TD-Linux | *Europe. |
| 01:23.37 | inchworm | I can understand misplacing countries since they change on occasions, but continents... |
| 01:24.10 | inchworm | TD-Linux: you just mis placed millions of people! :P |
| 01:25.17 | biggeruniverse | the early bird gets the inchworm |
| 01:25.21 | blast007 | inchworm: don't get your foot caught in the stirrup ;) |
| 01:25.27 | spldart | I was just checking the news... goin back to it now then |
| 01:28.28 | biggeruniverse | rawr! |
| 01:28.38 | inchworm | eeek |
| 01:29.46 | brlcad | heh, an inchworm on a horse |
| 01:30.04 | Erroneous | small horse ;) |
| 01:30.17 | brlcad | hopefully bigger than an inch |
| 01:30.19 | biggeruniverse | maybe not, he'd just fall really far |
| 01:30.28 | brlcad | poor horsie |
| 01:30.30 | TD-Linux | just an itty-bitty cattle prod to get the horse moving? |
| 01:30.37 | biggeruniverse | maybe it's a dead horse |
| 01:30.45 | Erroneous | cattle prods are for cattle, not horses :P |
| 01:31.01 | biggeruniverse | is it your little pony? |
| 01:31.06 | brlcad | horse of a different sort :) |
| 01:31.11 | biggeruniverse | bubble |
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| 01:31.54 | Erroneous | I thought that was hoarse ;) |
| 01:32.09 | inchworm | only if i scream "whoa!" too loud |
| 01:32.19 | inchworm | those chia ponys can get ornery |
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| 02:08.19 | mbfg | wow what's with all the yellow? |
| 02:08.34 | inchworm | hehe |
| 02:10.36 | brlcad | yay |
| 02:10.50 | brlcad | mbfg: almost as fun as a lot of .. purple |
| 02:11.24 | mbfg | heh |
| 02:11.45 | mbfg | what's shaking, bossman? |
| 02:13.02 | brlcad | ma' belly unfortunately .. though not too badly |
| 02:14.15 | brlcad | how's the eastern sliver of land holding up? still above water with all this global warming and weather fluctuations hopefully |
| 02:14.23 | mbfg | barely |
| 02:15.02 | mbfg | my moonlite activitiies tend to venture in lands less tedious than c++ |
| 02:15.03 | mbfg | :) |
| 02:15.18 | mbfg | i'm too old to struggle with much lately |
| 02:15.45 | mbfg | so i tend to dabble in java o.s. projects, mostly |
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| 02:16.49 | brlcad | less tedious?! |
| 02:16.54 | brlcad | sounds like a java rant already :) |
| 02:17.17 | brlcad | ahh and it is java .. heh (missed that) |
| 02:19.12 | mbfg | heh |
| 02:19.53 | mbfg | http://sourceforge.net/users/dbrosius/ |
| 02:19.57 | mbfg | mostly - some others |
| 02:22.41 | brlcad | woot, it worked! |
| 02:25.07 | brlcad | aww, no "about" menu option |
| 02:31.18 | spldart | Who was it who nagged me about using my server, which is on all the time, to entertain me and browse internet while my main rig is off? |
| 02:33.35 | brlcad | i'd nag you about that |
| 02:33.43 | brlcad | but it wasn't me |
| 02:34.20 | spldart | hehe |
| 02:34.26 | spldart | I did something about it |
| 02:34.27 | spldart | http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/whim.html |
| 02:35.15 | brlcad | yay, some sort of fire hazard |
| 02:35.24 | brlcad | i mean |
| 02:35.26 | brlcad | oh, neat :) |
| 02:41.29 | spldart | :) |
| 02:41.47 | spldart | I loves playing with electricity /muppet show |
| 02:56.51 | mbfg | sorry fell asleep at the wheel, twas when a big drool landed on my rotund belly that i awoke |
| 02:57.40 | mbfg | when's bz-a-releasing? |
| 02:58.29 | mbfg | july 17th i presume? |
| 02:59.22 | DTRemenak | hm, sounds good to me |
| 03:00.47 | spldart | ? |
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| 03:01.19 | mbfg | as i recall bz releases new version most of the time on two distinct days |
| 03:01.29 | mbfg | i thought i recalled july 17th and dec 17th |
| 03:01.35 | mbfg | for no good reason, except posterity |
| 03:04.30 | mbfg | i'll leave modellign to the brilliant youngun's like dt, et. al. :) |
| 03:06.52 | a_meteorite | someone agrees with me |
| 03:07.39 | brlcad | mbfg: hehe |
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| 03:57.29 | biggeruniverse | don't forget flash, saviour of the universe (not me, the other one) |
| 03:59.38 | Flash | let's do some battle with the forces of evil |
| 03:59.57 | blast007 | biggeruniverse: the smalleruniverse? |
| 04:00.18 | Flash | do you have a smalleruniverse running around? |
| 04:00.36 | blast007 | or maybe the shiniestuniverse! |
| 04:01.08 | spldart | Is Flash off his GORDon? Stayed tuned! Same bat-time, same bat-channel. |
| 04:02.27 | Flash | biggeruniverse and I need to school some of these GU wannabes |
| 04:03.11 | biggeruniverse | sounds good to me |
| 04:03.15 | biggeruniverse | let's do it |
| 04:05.31 | Flash | give me 10 mins to put a kid to bed |
| 04:05.51 | biggeruniverse | can't fool me, I know it takes longer than 10 minutes |
| 04:06.02 | biggeruniverse | I have some of those of my own ;) |
| 04:09.40 | spldart | Lots of dads and moms here :) |
| 04:09.46 | spldart | I got 5 little ones |
| 04:12.27 | biggeruniverse | That's because most young people prefer MapleStory as their free online game of choice |
| 04:12.38 | biggeruniverse | (or runescape) |
| 04:12.50 | spldart | LOL... a few of mine are addicted to MapleStory |
| 04:12.58 | Flash | ok, let's find some patsies |
| 04:13.18 | spldart | I just did some cool plays on silver but it's only about 3 on 3 in there right now |
| 04:16.40 | biggeruniverse | maple story is fun, but when I realized that I was the only person over 16, I left |
| 04:19.34 | spldart | LOL... My wife is addicted to it as well |
| 04:19.51 | spldart | Now.. she is 10 years younger than me but she's over 10 years over 16 :) |
| 04:23.52 | brlcad | spldart: that probably counts as dating yourself yet again.. :-) |
| 04:24.14 | brlcad | quite more specific, though, I must admit |
| 04:24.37 | brlcad | and you give me hope ;) |
| 04:25.07 | spldart | o_O |
| 04:25.57 | brlcad | woo hoo, thank you regents! |
| 04:26.31 | biggeruniverse | the next line is "can I have another?" |
| 04:26.51 | bryjen | biggeruniverse: it was going to be "would you like another" ... :/ |
| 04:27.07 | brlcad | not with the bsd license, it's guaranteed if I want another ;) |
| 04:27.08 | spldart | Thank you sir may I have another! |
| 04:29.44 | biggeruniverse | gu admin around? |
| 04:29.44 | spldart | gu it is |
| 04:30.38 | biggeruniverse | what? |
| 04:30.47 | biggeruniverse | speak up, man! |
| 04:30.49 | Flash | spldart: and you are 10 years younger than me ;-) |
| 04:31.39 | spldart | lmao |
| 04:31.53 | spldart | I found a gu server |
| 04:32.03 | spldart | a blue is hanging out at the purple base |
| 04:32.09 | spldart | named 'who' |
| 04:32.14 | spldart | I go all the way over there |
| 04:32.16 | spldart | as a red |
| 04:32.21 | spldart | and jump up to the base |
| 04:32.27 | spldart | and get up point blank and wait |
| 04:32.49 | spldart | dude musta walked away cuz his tank is just sitting there and then he jumps and fires fast and furious |
| 04:32.50 | spldart | lol |
| 04:33.00 | spldart | I shot'em and left |
| 04:33.30 | Flash | spldart: where? |
| 04:33.34 | spldart | Flash? You 50 or something? |
| 04:33.46 | spldart | dunno.. the server had a .gu in it's name |
| 04:33.49 | Flash | close. almost 47 |
| 04:34.04 | spldart | Ah... Your a tad less than 10 over me |
| 04:34.24 | Flash | 16 + 10 = wife + 10 = spldart + 10 = flash |
| 04:34.53 | spldart | wife=16+ >10 |
| 04:35.02 | spldart | hehe |
| 04:35.20 | Flash | close enough |
| 04:35.24 | spldart | hehehe |
| 04:35.38 | spldart | I can only remember back to the carter administration |
| 04:35.54 | spldart | before that I was to young to watch the president on tv |
| 04:36.15 | Flash | yeah, I'm old |
| 04:36.23 | spldart | Do you remember seeing Nixon in office on tv? |
| 04:36.28 | Flash | yes |
| 04:36.30 | spldart | wow |
| 04:36.38 | Flash | I remember watching the first man on the moon |
| 04:37.08 | biggeruniverse | me too, but not live |
| 04:37.12 | Flash | lol |
| 04:37.31 | biggeruniverse | I watched the version they made in a studio in Burbank >.> |
| 04:37.42 | spldart | heh |
| 04:37.47 | bryjen | dead men on the moon ain't as exciting |
| 04:38.11 | Flash | ahhhhh... a conspiracy theorist |
| 04:41.05 | AAA_awright | PARTY AT BZFX.NET PORT 6036!!!! |
| 04:41.05 | AAA_awright | ;) |
| 04:41.21 | biggeruniverse | can't be, I'm not there |
| 04:41.57 | Flash | wait... it's Friday.... |
| 04:41.59 | Flash | DECKS |
| 04:42.17 | spldart | DECKS! |
| 04:42.43 | spldart | oH...I don't have a 2.1 built right now |
| 04:42.48 | spldart | client that is |
| 04:42.54 | Flash | DECKS |
| 04:43.17 | brlcad | heh, and I was just thinking decks myself |
| 04:43.23 | Flash | DECKS |
| 04:43.30 | brlcad | shame ze girl isn't here |
| 04:43.44 | Flash | hmmmm. I don't see a server |
| 04:45.51 | Flash | Decks? |
| 04:45.51 | Flash | decks? |
| 04:52.36 | Flash | somebody host a server? |
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| 04:55.23 | spldart | only bzfx.net:6036 IC isn't decks |
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| 05:15.39 | biggeruniverse | that is fun fun |
| 05:15.52 | biggeruniverse | I had to quit from fun overload |
| 05:17.57 | Flash | I had to quit because my client locked up |
| 05:19.41 | biggeruniverse | heh |
| 05:19.51 | biggeruniverse | I got a big ego boost too |
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| 06:00.00 | biggeruniverse | on a clear day, ucla! |
| 06:01.04 | L4m3r | >_> |
| 06:01.14 | biggeruniverse | heh |
| 06:01.23 | biggeruniverse | Now *I'm* the lamer! |
| 06:02.53 | DTRemenak | there are not many clear days in the la basin...too much smog ;) |
| 06:03.03 | spldart | heh |
| 06:07.11 | biggeruniverse | Has anyone tried to convert BZFlag to using OGRE for rendering? |
| 06:09.04 | AAA_awright | What is wrong with OpenGL? |
| 06:09.31 | AAA_awright | OGRE : OpenGL :: ADB : MySQL |
| 06:09.33 | AAA_awright | etc... |
| 06:09.48 | biggeruniverse | OGRE is OpenGL |
| 06:10.01 | biggeruniverse | but it handles everything about scenes for you |
| 06:10.12 | AAA_awright | It is am abstraction layer, for OpenGL (optionally dX) |
| 06:10.25 | biggeruniverse | thanks, I didn't know that |
| 06:10.43 | AAA_awright | (really?) |
| 06:10.46 | biggeruniverse | no. |
| 06:10.50 | AAA_awright | BZFlag has a world handler too... for that purpose |
| 06:11.03 | biggeruniverse | thanks, I didn't know that |
| 06:11.12 | purple_cow | biggeruniverse: a few have tried |
| 06:11.25 | biggeruniverse | I assume it ended in failure? |
| 06:11.42 | AAA_awright | Oh, your question... None that I know of... |
| 06:11.54 | AAA_awright | But still, why would you _want_ to? |
| 06:12.15 | biggeruniverse | because I like pants |
| 06:13.14 | AAA_awright | It is a great framework for starting a project, but BZFlag already seems to have created one, built from thr ground up for it's own purpose, which (reguardless of the extra maintnence required) is usually always the most flexible solution |
| 06:13.55 | AAA_awright | ... Has anyone reported problems using the BZFlag structure? |
| 06:14.30 | purple_cow | biggeruniverse: it's a huge job |
| 06:14.45 | purple_cow | so yes, failure |
| 06:19.02 | spldart | woah... big apt-upgrade deb 9-0 |
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| 06:51.28 | Flash | this is a bit late but... |
| 06:51.44 | Flash | I think it's a classic make/buy trade |
| 06:52.06 | Flash | if you can use a "commercial" framework that does what you want, that's better than your homegrown code |
| 06:52.09 | Flash | in general |
| 06:52.20 | Flash | of course, you still have to pay the price for the conversion |
| 07:34.19 | biggeruniverse | true, but I always favor build over buy |
| 07:34.31 | biggeruniverse | no framework will be as tailored has homegrown |
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| 08:04.59 | Flash | it's a question of where you want to put your (limited) resources |
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| 08:20.24 | spldart | again... thanks to all for ctr,alt,f2 ctr,alt,f7 :) |
| 09:04.45 | biggeruniverse | heh |
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| 11:20.52 | Steve14 | #bzchat is the official channel, right ? |
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| 14:22.29 | invader | everyone how do u use the bzflag admin? |
| 14:23.10 | invader | i put in the callsign password the port and all that stuff |
| 14:23.27 | invader | and then it said it was connecting |
| 14:23.56 | invader | then it dissapeard and nothing happend |
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| 15:06.13 | spldart | silly invader... if you had stayed somebody could have helped yah |
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| 16:17.34 | blast007 | spldart: he's one that thinks IRC means Instant Response Chat |
| 16:20.20 | CBG | Heh. |
| 16:24.38 | biggeruniverse | oh. That's not what it means? |
| 16:25.01 | biggeruniverse | this isn't the bzflag tech support line? |
| 16:25.35 | CBG | No. |
| 16:26.09 | biggeruniverse | crap |
| 16:39.20 | biggeruniverse | flash |
| 16:39.29 | CBG | bang |
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| 16:51.33 | QuantumBeep | Does anyone know what the configuration option override order is for bzfs? Can I use command line switches to override .conf options? |
| 16:53.28 | biggeruniverse | did you try it |
| 16:53.30 | biggeruniverse | ? |
| 16:53.39 | CBG | iirc: command line tags take preference over the conf, which takes preference over the map options. |
| 16:53.47 | QuantumBeep | Cool. Thanks! |
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| 17:12.49 | blast007 | might just depend what order you do stuff in |
| 17:15.32 | spldart | yawn |
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| 17:16.09 | CBG | yawn |
| 17:30.50 | blast007 | if I were to set up a (somewhat) permanent decks server, what kind of configuration should I be using? 2-shot jumping with no flags? |
| 17:31.41 | spldart | Why would my 2.1 bzfs occasionally do this... No players... http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/topsnapshot.txt |
| 17:32.31 | blast007 | spldart: that file has ansi codes in it |
| 17:32.32 | spldart | anything I should check before I restart it to free resources? |
| 17:32.33 | blast007 | can't read it |
| 17:33.55 | spldart | well.. top says bzfs is pulling 98% cpu....500mhz k6-2 before I restart bzfs 2.1.10 is there anything I should test or check that might help localize why it happened.. again |
| 17:34.47 | blast007 | spldart: can players still join the server? |
| 17:34.58 | spldart | hrm.... I'd have to check... |
| 17:36.02 | spldart | booting machine I THINK I have a 2.1 client on.. |
| 17:41.18 | spldart | well poop... don't have a 2.1 client on any machine but this one and i'm watching spike tv muscle car right now... gonna build client on another machine and leave troubled 2.1 bzfs running... will this help diagnose anything that could help dev's out? |
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| 17:58.09 | spldart | http://spldart.opencombat.net:92/topsnapshot won't open in like nano for yah? |
| 17:58.19 | spldart | I was just trying to snapshot top |
| 17:58.37 | blast007 | spldart: I used 'cat' to see it |
| 17:58.56 | spldart | ah |
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| 20:08.27 | biggeruniverse | hmm |
| 20:08.41 | biggeruniverse | I would expect it to use all the CPU it could... |
| 20:10.56 | spldart | bzfs should only use a penash of cpu esp when not occuppied |
| 20:11.12 | spldart | BTW blast007.. I can join the offending bzfs instance |
| 20:11.19 | spldart | but it seems slow to download the world |
| 20:12.05 | spldart | Is there any way I can help 2.1.10 dev by troubleshooting on it while it's screwing up? |
| 20:12.18 | spldart | It's still running fubar right now |
| 20:12.31 | spldart | unfortunately only one -d |
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| 20:17.06 | a_meteorite | spldart: did you --enable-threads ? |
| 20:17.17 | biggeruniverse | heh |
| 20:17.27 | biggeruniverse | do you have gdb? |
| 20:17.34 | a_meteorite | I did that once. Extreme lag and 100% CPU for single CPU. |
| 20:18.16 | blast007 | spldart: probably not unless it's a debug build and running with GDB |
| 20:18.41 | biggeruniverse | if you have gdb, you can attach to the process with gdb program <process id> |
| 20:19.01 | blast007 | ah |
| 20:19.18 | biggeruniverse | gdb is the bomb |
| 20:19.25 | blast007 | so is visual studio |
| 20:19.38 | biggeruniverse | menus are for restaurants |
| 20:19.46 | spldart | enable threads I don't believe so |
| 20:20.01 | a_meteorite | is there extreme lag when you join? |
| 20:20.04 | biggeruniverse | spldart: hook in gdb |
| 20:21.17 | spldart | appy started off pulling cpu cycles same as other bzfs .. 2.0.9 |
| 20:21.27 | spldart | bout 5 days ago... was fresh head build |
| 20:21.34 | spldart | today it's pull'n all cpu |
| 20:21.59 | spldart | gdb available tool in apt? |
| 20:22.05 | biggeruniverse | I'm sure |
| 20:22.14 | biggeruniverse | I don't know, I compile everything from source |
| 20:22.20 | blast007 | it will be |
| 20:22.39 | Think_Differentl | my bzflag does that too. uses all the cpu practiacally |
| 20:23.03 | blast007 | Think_Differentl: bzflag, or bzfs? |
| 20:23.10 | Think_Differentl | bzflag |
| 20:23.12 | Think_Differentl | the client |
| 20:23.15 | blast007 | bzflag is supposed to... |
| 20:23.18 | blast007 | bzfs isn't |
| 20:23.24 | blast007 | we're talking about bzfs |
| 20:23.30 | Think_Differentl | well, bzflag 2.0.8 uses about 10% |
| 20:23.51 | blast007 | vsync on? FPS limiter turned on? |
| 20:24.20 | spldart | ok... How do i do this gdb thing and output to something i can share with you guys? |
| 20:24.31 | biggeruniverse | go to a console, |
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| 20:24.35 | spldart | k |
| 20:24.42 | biggeruniverse | get the process id of bzfs |
| 20:24.53 | spldart | k |
| 20:25.36 | biggeruniverse | then type gdb program <process id> |
| 20:26.25 | spldart | done |
| 20:26.28 | biggeruniverse | after it's done loading symbols |
| 20:26.29 | biggeruniverse | ok |
| 20:26.43 | spldart | I dunno if it's still loading though |
| 20:26.59 | spldart | loaded a bunch and now siting at (gdb) |
| 20:27.07 | biggeruniverse | ok, that's your prompt |
| 20:27.15 | spldart | kewl |
| 20:27.18 | biggeruniverse | type this: |
| 20:27.18 | biggeruniverse | break bzfs.cxx:4192 |
| 20:27.29 | spldart | type that verbatim? |
| 20:27.32 | biggeruniverse | yeah |
| 20:27.46 | biggeruniverse | that's going to break on the 4192th line of bzfs.cxx |
| 20:27.58 | biggeruniverse | (hopefully we have the same code) |
| 20:28.09 | biggeruniverse | [enter] |
| 20:28.16 | biggeruniverse | the type c [enter] |
| 20:28.18 | spldart | No symbol table loaded use the file command |
| 20:28.29 | biggeruniverse | ah |
| 20:28.40 | biggeruniverse | file <full path to bzfs> |
| 20:29.07 | spldart | break /blah/blah/blah/blah/bzfs:4192? |
| 20:29.34 | spldart | oh |
| 20:29.37 | spldart | ok |
| 20:31.01 | spldart | poo... I typed file <that full path> and it says program being debugged already. Kill it? Y or N |
| 20:31.23 | spldart | Perhaps I should restart |
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| 20:32.42 | biggeruniverse | if you restart, restart with this command: gdb <full path to gdb> |
| 20:32.54 | biggeruniverse | also, make sure this is a debug build of bzfs |
| 20:33.04 | biggeruniverse | do you use commandline options? |
| 20:34.25 | spldart | I'm running in terminal if that's what your asking |
| 20:34.44 | biggeruniverse | I mean your bzfs |
| 20:34.44 | spldart | lemme check debug build.... I just apt-get 'ed gdb |
| 20:34.46 | spldart | oh... |
| 20:35.11 | spldart | bzfs /bzfs.conf >>/bzfs/logfile is the format |
| 20:36.12 | biggeruniverse | ok |
| 20:36.21 | biggeruniverse | then let me know when you plan to run again |
| 20:36.44 | spldart | Ok.. I'm ready... I'll restart gdb now |
| 20:36.48 | blast007 | spldart: did you do --enable-debug when you ./configure'ed? |
| 20:37.09 | spldart | I don't remember right now... probably not this time |
| 20:37.16 | biggeruniverse | you'll need to |
| 20:37.28 | biggeruniverse | check config.log |
| 20:37.34 | spldart | ah yes |
| 20:37.37 | blast007 | I think 'bzfs -version' would show it also |
| 20:38.55 | spldart | sorry no --enable-plugins --disable-client.... I'm goin to re-snapshot head and rebuild with --enable-debug too |
| 20:39.10 | spldart | If it happens again maybe I can produce some useful info for you :/ |
| 20:39.34 | blast007 | it probably won't happen in debug mode ;D |
| 20:39.35 | spldart | This has happened only like 3 times in the last few months and only on head bzfs |
| 20:39.38 | spldart | LOL |
| 20:39.51 | spldart | 2.0.9 has been rock solid |
| 20:40.08 | blast007 | my 2.0.9 from december is doing good |
| 20:41.03 | blast007 | haven't tried anything more recent |
| 20:41.03 | blast007 | the mofo server is running a very current version of 2.0.9, and are encountering some issues |
| 20:41.05 | blast007 | not sure if that's just from the plugins or (if any) server mods |
| 20:41.47 | biggeruniverse | if it happens again, use the gdb program <process id>, and it should be able to load symbols |
| 20:42.12 | biggeruniverse | Let us know, I'm interested to see what is wrong. |
| 20:42.29 | spldart | well...my current 2.0.9 is 12/25 and has been no problems.. the ver before that I had longer and was alsa a rock for me too |
| 20:42.48 | spldart | 2.1 is the only issue. sometimes.. but, of course, that is to be expected |
| 20:42.57 | biggeruniverse | possibly |
| 20:43.22 | spldart | thanks biggeruniverse... I'll keep that in mind... I kinda hope it screws up again |
| 20:44.21 | biggeruniverse | me too |
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| 22:18.58 | spldart | mmMMMmmm big F A T tax return |
| 22:19.15 | spldart | Not to be confused with a certain old sucky file system. |
| 22:19.20 | blast007 | heh |
| 22:20.19 | spldart | wish I could get that e deposited :(... gotta wait on snail mail |
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| 22:26.06 | randomparticle | hi |
| 22:26.23 | blast007 | howdy |
| 22:26.50 | randomparticle | is there any possibility of removing the frame rate dependence from keyboard turn dampening, i wonder |
| 22:27.11 | randomparticle | at low frame rates, turn acceleration is painfully slow |
| 22:27.43 | blast007 | get a faster frame rate ;) |
| 22:27.55 | randomparticle | laptop and energy saver is my answer to that :) |
| 22:30.05 | randomparticle | mouse users aren't affected by frame rate to anything like that extent |
| 22:33.34 | CBG | hey snick |
| 22:33.37 | randomparticle | hi cbg |
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| 23:01.25 | spldart | ah yeah... |
| 23:05.01 | spldart | woah... bzfs with debug is much larger :-0 |
| 23:06.11 | spldart | Does that effect performance at all? |
| 23:10.36 | CBG | lol... http://www.freewebs.com/bzanti-spam... I love it ! |
| 23:13.12 | spldart | woah..never tried that before lsof -i | grep bzfs |
| 23:13.15 | spldart | interesting |
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| 23:19.46 | spldart | So.... I started gdb with no -switches or arguments... then type file /blah/blah/blah/blah/blah/blah/bzfs |
| 23:20.21 | spldart | if I were having a problem would it be outputing some info or is there more to be done? |
| 23:21.45 | orchid | `run' maybe? |
| 23:22.22 | spldart | oop crashed gdb |
| 23:23.34 | spldart | I guess I'll have to read teh man |
| 23:23.57 | spldart | would like to be able to get some info for yahs next time 2.1.10 goes TU |
| 23:27.39 | brlcad | spldart: gdb --args bzfs -with -whatever -args -you -usually -use |
| 23:28.12 | spldart | so I run bzfs through gdb |
| 23:28.17 | spldart | Not attach to a faultering bzfs after the fact |
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| 23:50.26 | ben3322 | why does it say the username benji is in use? |
| 23:50.53 | ben3322 | lol great awnswer guys |
| 23:51.33 | spldart | ? |
| 23:51.34 | brlcad | we don't sit here all day just waiting for you to ask a question, ask and be patient (and otherwise be quiet please) |
| 23:51.42 | spldart | ^ |
| 23:52.49 | blast007 | ben3322: because it's in use? :P |
| 23:53.08 | blast007 | freenode has thousands of users on it |
| 23:53.49 | spldart | Theirs even a benji on bzflag :) |
| 23:53.56 | spldart | meh... grammar |
| 23:54.02 | spldart | sp |
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| 23:56.24 | biggeruniverse | spldart: you can do either |
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| 23:59.10 | biggeruniverse | It just happened to be advantageous when you were already running bzfs to hook into it |