| 00:02.43 | CBG | a_meteorite: what? |
| 00:02.55 | a_meteorite | About the beach. |
| 00:03.21 | CBG | Dude, it's a drink. |
| 00:03.33 | CBG | "Sex On the Beach" is a cocktail... |
| 00:03.49 | CBG | Or a hit song by T-Spoon ... :/ |
| 00:03.56 | inchworm | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.05 | CBG | The things you learn at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_on_the_Beach ... |
| 00:04.06 | a_meteorite | ... |
| 00:04.18 | CBG | inchworm: why, because I said "sex" ?? |
| 00:04.37 | inchworm | CBG: could be... |
| 00:04.54 | spldart | mmmMMMmmm Se.......\ |
| 00:05.00 | a_meteorite | ... |
| 00:05.13 | CBG | OMG OMG OMG !!!! |
| 00:05.21 | CBG | Not the S word!! |
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| 01:28.09 | spldart | Hahaha... finally dominated fox burrow so bad that people started leaving... I'm so happy |
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| 02:40.08 | bz05 | hello? |
| 02:40.32 | bz05 | i'm trying to set up a server to play w/ friends - anybody out there that can help? |
| 02:40.58 | blast007 | probably |
| 02:41.07 | blast007 | LAN server? |
| 02:41.22 | bz05 | don't know |
| 02:41.41 | blast007 | are they at your house on your network, or are they over the internet? |
| 02:41.47 | bz05 | over the internet |
| 02:41.55 | blast007 | okay, a lot more involved them |
| 02:42.01 | blast007 | do you know if you have a router? |
| 02:42.07 | bz05 | i got a hostname at dyndns.org for my dynamic IP |
| 02:42.12 | blast007 | k |
| 02:42.34 | blast007 | you'll likely have to set up port forwarding (assuming you have a router) |
| 02:42.59 | blast007 | I'd recommend setting up a _very_ basic server first, to see if you can even host stuff on your connection |
| 02:42.59 | bz05 | and then i tried to go through the config setup on the web interface |
| 02:43.19 | bz05 | cunick.kicks-ass.net |
| 02:43.35 | blast007 | for instance, just try forwarding port 5154 to your server computer, and then running: bzfs -ddd |
| 02:43.43 | bz05 | ha |
| 02:43.49 | blast007 | (and then having someone connect to your hostname on port 5154) |
| 02:43.52 | bz05 | out of my league |
| 02:44.25 | blast007 | you'll need knowledge of the command prompt and/or batch files to set up a server |
| 02:44.46 | blast007 | it's not a trivial task |
| 02:45.01 | bz05 | ok then, i'm probably in over my head |
| 02:45.34 | bz05 | i tried to set up port forwarding for bittorrent, but that didn't work out for me either |
| 02:45.42 | blast007 | :) |
| 02:45.57 | bz05 | thanks for the help |
| 02:46.02 | blast007 | no problem |
| 02:47.13 | spldart | At least he realized he was over the level he should/wanted to try |
| 02:47.22 | blast007 | yup |
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| 02:58.43 | spldart | woohoo.. shoalin soccer came in from netflix |
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| 03:03.45 | inchworm | spldart: don't die laughing :) |
| 03:05.57 | spldart | I've seen bits and peices... No promises :)` |
| 03:53.43 | Theme97 | Does BZ use radians when calculating the rotation of a spawning tank? |
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| 04:01.13 | biggeruniverse | ok, I'm here, the party can start |
| 04:10.46 | A-Delusion | did you get the beer? |
| 04:13.17 | biggeruniverse | oh! I forgot it! |
| 04:13.23 | biggeruniverse | ok, I'll be back |
| 04:14.06 | biggeruniverse | While I'm gone, everybody just entertain yourselves with a delusion. |
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| 11:05.21 | zee666 | 123456 |
| 11:05.34 | zee666 | lol this is my root pw |
| 11:05.44 | zee666 | i copied by mistake |
| 11:05.52 | zee666 | :) |
| 12:04.09 | biggeruniverse | That man was my hero |
| 12:47.54 | spldart | It's nice to set the mark high 'eh? |
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| 13:25.51 | spldart | Holy crap... I locked up X like noones business 8-0 |
| 13:30.27 | biggeruniverse | that's bad joojoo |
| 13:31.35 | spldart | Appy that locked it wasn't responding to shortcuts and wouldn't bring up menu's so I had to ctr alt backspace... :( |
| 13:31.58 | spldart | I guess it wasn't X itself that locked but I was denied access to it :( |
| 13:33.53 | biggeruniverse | just ctrl-alt-f2 to a console window, kill the app |
| 13:34.00 | biggeruniverse | (f2-f6) |
| 13:34.50 | spldart | hrmmm |
| 13:35.13 | biggeruniverse | is this linux? |
| 13:37.02 | biggeruniverse | ps fax|grep <app name>|awk '{print $1}'|xargs kill -9 |
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| 13:37.18 | biggeruniverse | that'll kill it |
| 13:37.31 | biggeruniverse | and all of it's family too |
| 13:38.04 | biggeruniverse | who does the compile for solaris? |
| 13:39.29 | biggeruniverse | hmm. I think maybe he grep'd for the wrong app... |
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| 13:41.01 | spldart | mmMMMmmm segfault |
| 13:41.04 | biggeruniverse | did you grep for the wrong app? |
| 13:41.05 | biggeruniverse | oh |
| 13:41.26 | spldart | I didn't get a chance to grep for anything :) |
| 13:41.54 | biggeruniverse | hehe |
| 13:45.09 | spldart | heh... It just gave me the pipe |
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| 14:55.47 | spldart | btw.... after you grab a term with ctr alt f2 in order to kill an ill tempered process how do you return to your running x session? |
| 14:57.15 | scott | ctrl alt F7 |
| 14:57.29 | spldart | kewlies |
| 14:57.38 | scott | :) |
| 15:09.03 | blast007 | although that depends on the number of consoles that are set up ;) |
| 15:09.25 | blast007 | I think when I played with Knoppix it was different |
| 15:11.04 | spldart | hrm |
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| 20:35.21 | bz67 | can nebody tell me what the publiclist address is for bzf 2.0.4? |
| 20:36.17 | bz67 | ?? |
| 20:37.37 | brad | http://my.bzflag.org/db/ ? |
| 20:37.55 | brad | it's the same for all versions |
| 20:37.57 | bz67 | ok |
| 20:38.24 | bz67 | my server won t come up on the publiclist |
| 20:39.37 | brad | have you got the right port forwarded and your firewall port open? |
| 20:41.27 | bz67 | yeah |
| 20:41.59 | brad | are you behind a proxy at all? (maybe at your isp?) |
| 20:43.23 | bz67 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.02 | bz67 | my servers on the list now but i can t connect to it through the public list |
| 20:44.34 | brad | what's the server address? |
| 20:44.59 | bz67 | 213.107.14.196 |
| 20:45.10 | brad | ~bzfquery 213.107.14.196 |
| 20:45.21 | brad | o.O |
| 20:45.35 | brad | that's odd.. |
| 20:45.47 | bz67 | i put that in my server file? |
| 20:45.54 | brad | no |
| 20:47.11 | bz67 | oh |
| 20:47.11 | brad | what os are you using? |
| 20:47.11 | bz67 | ?? |
| 20:47.12 | brad | windows? |
| 20:47.12 | bz67 | oh xp |
| 20:48.34 | brad | I can connect to the server |
| 20:48.50 | brad | is the server on the same computer as the client? |
| 20:48.54 | bz67 | through public list? |
| 20:49.04 | brad | if it is, try connecting to 127.0.0.1 |
| 20:49.14 | brad | no, I can't see it on the list |
| 20:49.16 | bz67 | i can connect |
| 20:49.38 | bz67 | just nobody can see the server so id be the only one on |
| 20:49.42 | brad | do you have -public and -publicaddr in your config? |
| 20:49.50 | bz67 | yeah |
| 20:50.20 | brad | :S |
| 20:50.27 | blast007 | try -publiclist http://my.bzflag.org:81/db/ |
| 20:53.57 | bz67 | right i did that will it be on public list now? |
| 20:55.56 | brad | it doesn't seem to be on the list |
| 20:56.44 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 20:57.32 | brad | is that a 2.1 bug...... showing my server with 8 players although only 1 ob is there? |
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| 20:57.40 | brad | it has been like that for a while even after restarts |
| 20:57.41 | brlcad | yeah, definitely need some sort of server accreditation process to weed out the funk |
| 20:58.07 | bz67 | is the port tcp or udp? |
| 20:58.08 | brad | yup :P |
| 20:58.12 | brad | both |
| 20:58.22 | brad | oh wait |
| 20:58.24 | brad | list server? |
| 20:58.26 | brad | tcp |
| 20:58.32 | bz67 | kk |
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| 20:58.58 | Tropican8 | Player [2] failed to resolve: error 4 |
| 20:59.00 | Tropican8 | any ideas? |
| 20:59.10 | Tropican8 | what's an error 4? |
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| 21:02.26 | brlcad | Tropican8: what's that error coming from? |
| 21:02.35 | brlcad | i don't see that string in cvs head |
| 21:02.39 | Tropican8 | a join message] |
| 21:02.50 | brlcad | ooh |
| 21:02.59 | brlcad | heh, probably the player's name perhaps? |
| 21:03.07 | Tropican8 | I wish |
| 21:03.14 | Tropican8 | The server isn't letting anyone join |
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| 21:05.32 | Tropican8 | ok, interesting, it seemed to be caused by jitterwarn |
| 21:12.25 | bz67 | is there any way to get my server on the publiclist? |
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| 21:13.19 | JeffM2501 | shure, just use -public and -publicaddr |
| 21:13.28 | JeffM2501 | if you have the right info, then it'll list it |
| 21:13.37 | blast007 | (and assuming no proxy) ;) |
| 21:13.44 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:13.51 | JeffM2501 | and if the list can get to you from outside |
| 21:13.59 | JeffM2501 | but you'd need that setup for anyone to join |
| 21:14.55 | bz67 | how i get proxy? |
| 21:15.05 | JeffM2501 | you don't want one |
| 21:15.19 | JeffM2501 | have you tried to run your server publicly yet? |
| 21:15.28 | bz67 | yes |
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| 21:15.49 | JeffM2501 | can people from the outside world get to your server if they type in the address manualy? |
| 21:15.58 | blast007 | yeah |
| 21:16.10 | JeffM2501 | then what is your -public and -publicaddr params? |
| 21:17.25 | bz67 | -public "Coop`s Server" -publicaddr 213.107.14.196:5154 |
| 21:18.35 | blast007 | try it without the ` quick |
| 21:19.04 | Manu | yes, ` is bad :) |
| 21:19.43 | Erroneous | on some oses :) |
| 21:19.45 | bz67 | ok |
| 21:20.08 | Manu | Erroneous: you aren't erroneous ;) |
| 21:20.26 | Erroneous | I am indeed erroneous...habitually, not specifically ;) |
| 21:20.26 | spldart | hehe |
| 21:21.55 | bz67 | same result |
| 21:22.59 | JeffM2501 | if you run with -ddd do you see it submit your request to the list server? |
| 21:23.44 | bz67 | how i run -ddd? |
| 21:23.54 | JeffM2501 | add -ddd to your command line or your config |
| 21:25.07 | bz67 | yes i see it submit my request it says host not found |
| 21:25.46 | JeffM2501 | can you get to http://my.bzflag.org/db/ in a browser? |
| 21:26.19 | bz67 | yes |
| 21:26.42 | JeffM2501 | do you have any firewall software that would let your browser get to there but not the bzflag server? |
| 21:27.13 | bz67 | hold on |
| 21:28.18 | bz67 | i don t think so no |
| 21:28.34 | blast007 | do you know so? ;) |
| 21:28.56 | JeffM2501 | try adding -publiclist "http://my.bzflag.org:81/db/" to your config |
| 21:29.08 | blast007 | think we already suggested that to him earlier |
| 21:29.18 | JeffM2501 | also what version of bzfs are you using? |
| 21:29.31 | bz67 | with the ""? |
| 21:29.34 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:29.52 | bz67 | i ll give it a try |
| 21:34.22 | bz67 | nope did nt work |
| 21:36.01 | bz67 | it says something in my command proccesser though |
| 21:37.16 | bz67 | File transfer terminated with error from libcurl 7 |
| 21:38.20 | JeffM2501 | something is preventing the server from contacting the list server |
| 21:38.26 | bz67 | ?? |
| 21:38.39 | bz67 | ok |
| 21:38.44 | bz67 | but what? |
| 21:41.30 | bz67 | is there no way to sort it out? |
| 21:43.25 | blast007 | if there is, it probably isn't worth the effort |
| 21:43.42 | blast007 | it's something you'll have to figure out and debug |
| 21:45.10 | bz67 | oh wait lol |
| 21:46.08 | bz67 | nvm |
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| 21:49.29 | bz67 | theres got to be some way to get it to come up on the publiclist |
| 21:50.44 | blast007 | bz67: ask your ISP for assistance ;) |
| 21:51.00 | spldart | Sounds like your last resort 8-0 |
| 21:51.13 | blast007 | that way you can also find out if it's against their Terms of Service at the same time |
| 21:51.23 | spldart | 8-X |
| 21:51.54 | spldart | but but... I like violating every contract and law I can :) |
| 21:52.02 | blast007 | bz67: what kind of connection do you have? |
| 21:52.07 | blast007 | and what speed? |
| 21:53.25 | bz67 | ntl broadband 1m DSL Cable |
| 21:54.06 | blast007 | DSL Cable, interesting |
| 21:54.21 | blast007 | what's the upstream bandwidth? |
| 21:55.00 | bz67 | i have no idea |
| 21:55.15 | blast007 | so 1mbit download speed? |
| 21:55.32 | bz67 | yeah i think so |
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| 21:57.13 | blast007 | bz67: I'll just guess and say maybe 128kbps or 256kbps |
| 21:57.29 | blast007 | so best case, you're looking at 6 players |
| 21:58.46 | bz67 | and if i put a maximum of 6 players my server might work is it (im just talking rubbish aint i)? |
| 21:58.52 | blast007 | what's the reason you want a server? |
| 21:59.02 | blast007 | no, I'm not saying it will work by just doing that |
| 21:59.22 | blast007 | I'm saying that's all you'll be able to squeeze out of your connection IF it works at all |
| 22:00.32 | bz67 | i just want a place on bzf i can be my own boss lol |
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| 22:01.24 | JeffM2501 | umm yeah... lol |
| 22:01.45 | JeffM2501 | there is probably a way to solve your issue, but we just can't do it for you. You'll have to find out what is blocking you. |
| 22:02.18 | bz67 | i think i ll have more than 6 players i have a half-life 2 and Counter-strike:source server |
| 22:02.43 | JeffM2501 | bzflag is not as efficent as they are |
| 22:02.44 | bz67 | and they hold 37 each |
| 22:03.46 | bz67 | well they take alot to run so i think a bzflag server would be easier to run then them |
| 22:04.00 | JeffM2501 | why woudl you think that? |
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| 22:06.31 | bz67 | well on those servers you need to keep changing certain parameters to run them and bzflag servers don t need to be changed like them so i think bzflag would be more efficent |
| 22:06.51 | JeffM2501 | paramaters have nothing to do with bandwith :) |
| 22:07.06 | JeffM2501 | it's all dependent on your upstream bandwith |
| 22:07.13 | Linuxx0r | which one is the file which supervises the moving of a player and autokickes him is sth. is wrong? |
| 22:07.23 | Linuxx0r | *movements |
| 22:07.33 | JeffM2501 | Linuxx0r, on the server? |
| 22:07.38 | Linuxx0r | yes |
| 22:07.42 | JeffM2501 | what version? |
| 22:07.42 | bz67 | not on the steam servers |
| 22:07.49 | Linuxx0r | 2.0.8 |
| 22:07.51 | JeffM2501 | bz67, we arn't a valve game |
| 22:07.55 | Linuxx0r | :P |
| 22:07.58 | JeffM2501 | Linuxx0r, bzfs.cxx has those checks IIRC |
| 22:08.09 | JeffM2501 | they were moved to bzfsStateVerify.cxx in 2.1 |
| 22:08.11 | bz67 | i know |
| 22:08.40 | Linuxx0r | ah, thats the reason why i didn't found bzfsstateverify in 2.0.8 |
| 22:08.48 | JeffM2501 | bz67, it realy sounds like you have a firewall that is blocking HTTP requests from bzfs, that's why it can't contact the list. OR your ISP uses a proxy server for your borwser |
| 22:09.00 | JeffM2501 | Linuxx0r, yes it was added as part of some cleanup |
| 22:09.22 | Linuxx0r | but all the features were already implemented in 2.0.8? |
| 22:09.26 | JeffM2501 | some are |
| 22:09.29 | JeffM2501 | more were added for 2.1 |
| 22:09.42 | JeffM2501 | there is a speed kick, and a out of bounds kick |
| 22:09.49 | JeffM2501 | the distance kick was added later IIRC |
| 22:09.54 | Linuxx0r | is the server checking the turning speed of a player? |
| 22:09.55 | JeffM2501 | in 2.0.8 |
| 22:10.04 | JeffM2501 | I don't think the 2.0.8 one does |
| 22:10.07 | Linuxx0r | hmm |
| 22:10.09 | Linuxx0r | thats bad |
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| 22:10.19 | JeffM2501 | lots of things in 2.0.x are bad |
| 22:10.28 | JeffM2501 | the client is trusted for all things |
| 22:10.33 | Linuxx0r | i got banned ("quickturn cheat") and now i can't proof that i weren't cheating :) |
| 22:10.50 | JeffM2501 | you try talking to the admins? |
| 22:11.18 | Linuxx0r | i am just writing a private message in the forums |
| 22:11.35 | JeffM2501 | try talking first before you go for "proof" it works a lot better. |
| 22:11.46 | JeffM2501 | find out why they felt you were cheating |
| 22:11.49 | bz67 | lol |
| 22:11.57 | JeffM2501 | probably just a mouse setting |
| 22:12.11 | JeffM2501 | or they used a loging client to check your data |
| 22:12.33 | bz67 | valve games are much more complicated then bzflag |
| 22:12.46 | JeffM2501 | yes they are, they are also comercialy developed |
| 22:12.52 | Linuxx0r | my client was lagging (+-12 ms) |
| 22:12.53 | JeffM2501 | and not free |
| 22:13.06 | JeffM2501 | that amount of lag should not affect much |
| 22:13.20 | JeffM2501 | talk to them first, it always works better if you talk first instead of guessing |
| 22:13.36 | bz67 | they are free well u have to pay to get the game but not to play with a internet connection |
| 22:13.49 | JeffM2501 | bz67, that would be the part where they are not free to get ;) |
| 22:13.59 | bz67 | and i lag worse on valve games then bzflag ones |
| 22:14.09 | JeffM2501 | they are more popular so have higher useage |
| 22:14.26 | Linuxx0r | no, my lag was about 180ms, but as the jitter (is it called jitter?) was +-12 ms, my tank "teleported" back and forth |
| 22:14.34 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 22:14.34 | bz67 | not half-life 2 deathmatch |
| 22:15.03 | JeffM2501 | that's starting to get iffy on lag, but still, they should be able to explain it |
| 22:15.29 | JeffM2501 | bz67, our networking isn't very efficent, we just have rather low player counts per server compared to other games. |
| 22:15.31 | bz67 | well there stupid downloads have made it worse |
| 22:15.40 | JeffM2501 | all the "big" servers usualy run at a datacenter, not a home. |
| 22:16.22 | JeffM2501 | the thing about runing a server is, what will distingish it from the 200+ other servers out there? |
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| 22:16.41 | gsnedders | there are very few that have stood the test of time |
| 22:17.03 | JeffM2501 | we still at more servers then players? |
| 22:17.08 | bz67 | most valve servers are run at home |
| 22:17.15 | JeffM2501 | we know |
| 22:17.33 | JeffM2501 | just over 20 more players then servers right now |
| 22:17.34 | bz67 | u been spying lol |
| 22:17.39 | JeffM2501 | um no.... |
| 22:17.48 | JeffM2501 | I am aware of other games in the industry |
| 22:17.53 | JeffM2501 | and have played them |
| 22:18.06 | bz67 | oh ok |
| 22:18.19 | bz67 | u played half-life 2 dm then? |
| 22:18.30 | JeffM2501 | I have played half life 2, yes |
| 22:18.47 | JeffM2501 | I'm not a huge fan of DM for mymultiplayer fix. |
| 22:19.02 | bz67 | cs:s? |
| 22:19.06 | JeffM2501 | MMO |
| 22:19.28 | bz67 | u played cs:s |
| 22:20.10 | JeffM2501 | is that a sentance? |
| 22:20.19 | JeffM2501 | but no, I am not a fan of Counter Strike. |
| 22:20.52 | bz67 | ok |
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| 22:21.38 | bz67 | so is this your job? |
| 22:21.50 | gsnedders | nobody works on BZ as a job |
| 22:21.57 | blast007 | chatting on IRC? man, that would be a great job |
| 22:22.05 | blast007 | sign me up! |
| 22:22.07 | bz67 | yeah lol |
| 22:22.14 | JeffM2501 | we have no paid developers |
| 22:22.22 | JeffM2501 | all the people who work on it, donate there time |
| 22:22.46 | bz67 | thats a bit crumby |
| 22:22.57 | JeffM2501 | pardon? |
| 22:23.07 | gsnedders | bz67: you want to pay someone to work on BZflag? |
| 22:23.07 | blast007 | the bread |
| 22:23.09 | blast007 | it's crumby |
| 22:23.16 | JeffM2501 | the game is free |
| 22:23.18 | JeffM2501 | and open source |
| 22:23.25 | bz67 | i know |
| 22:23.32 | JeffM2501 | there is no money or company to pay or hire anyone |
| 22:24.26 | bz67 | i get money from my valve servers |
| 22:24.40 | JeffM2501 | we don't run the servers |
| 22:24.45 | JeffM2501 | they are run by there owners |
| 22:25.01 | bz67 | i know just saying |
| 22:25.20 | blast007 | I accept $500 for cop status on my servers |
| 22:25.23 | gsnedders | look at the AUTHORS file, there's plenty of people who've contributed. |
| 22:25.30 | brlcad | i just don't get paid to work on *this* :) |
| 22:25.48 | JeffM2501 | true, many of us are paid developers for other companies |
| 22:26.02 | brlcad | blast007: hehe |
| 22:26.15 | bz67 | lol |
| 22:26.27 | bz67 | hey im a secondary school pupil |
| 22:26.38 | JeffM2501 | really? I could not tell at ALL! |
| 22:26.46 | blast007 | hehe |
| 22:27.03 | gsnedders | and I'm called Geoffrey :P |
| 22:27.15 | brlcad | like the giraffe! |
| 22:27.19 | brlcad | are you tall? |
| 22:27.27 | gsnedders | 180cm, or so |
| 22:27.34 | gsnedders | which for someone 14, is rather tall |
| 22:27.43 | brlcad | ~convert 180 cm to in |
| 22:27.46 | gsnedders | but I weight only 55kg |
| 22:28.00 | brlcad | yeah, I was about that tall at 14 |
| 22:28.01 | bz67 | u being sarcastic? |
| 22:28.09 | brlcad | never really got any taller ;) |
| 22:28.13 | gsnedders | bz67: no |
| 22:28.34 | bz67 | no i was talking bout jeff lol |
| 22:28.38 | gsnedders | brlcad: heh. I'm pretty much as tall as my Dad |
| 22:28.44 | gsnedders | bz67: can't tell :P |
| 22:28.58 | brlcad | then the outlook isn't too good unless mom is real tall :) |
| 22:29.00 | JeffM2501 | ya think? |
| 22:29.17 | gsnedders | brlcad: taller than my sister (who's 31), brother-in-law (as in her husband), mum… |
| 22:29.19 | brlcad | not that there's anything wrong with that, i'm content |
| 22:29.47 | gsnedders | *whose |
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| 22:30.20 | biggeruniverse | I'm huge in China. |
| 22:30.47 | blast007 | china is in the universe though, so how can the universe go to china |
| 22:31.05 | JeffM2501 | blast007, there is more then one universe |
| 22:31.10 | blast007 | oh dear, do we have a box with our own universe inside it? |
| 22:31.11 | bz67 | good point |
| 22:31.13 | biggeruniverse | why not? everything else comes from China... |
| 22:31.16 | JeffM2501 | think multidimensionaly |
| 22:31.21 | blast007 | :) |
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| 22:31.54 | bz67 | na i think scientifically lmao |
| 22:34.12 | brlcad | you don't say |
| 22:34.44 | CBG | "u think" ? |
| 22:35.37 | blast007 | roflcopter |
| 22:35.54 | brlcad | tis a safe bet |
| 22:36.06 | JeffM2501 | never said it was hard ;) |
| 22:36.13 | brlcad | but I'd go for 13 |
| 22:36.13 | bz67 | who me? |
| 22:36.21 | gsnedders | JeffM2501: do I sound 14? :) |
| 22:36.26 | JeffM2501 | sometimes |
| 22:36.49 | bz67 | who u betting on? |
| 22:36.52 | brlcad | hehe, and I deleted it because I knew it'd just be a jinx |
| 22:37.05 | brlcad | bz67: never 5 red |
| 22:37.42 | bz67 | ?? |
| 22:38.11 | brlcad | think scientifically, it'll all make sense eventually |
| 22:39.17 | bz67 | can t be bothered |
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| 22:39.54 | gsnedders | teenagers… |
| 22:40.39 | bz67 | how do u know im a teenager? |
| 22:41.23 | Whatisruleone | bz67, anyone that is no longer a teenage can detect one a mile off :P |
| 22:41.30 | gsnedders | [22:26] bz67: hey im a secondary school pupil |
| 22:41.36 | gsnedders | that, and your language. |
| 22:41.46 | blast007 | well, we know you're under 20, and we're giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're at least 13 |
| 22:41.47 | gsnedders | and your lack of grammar |
| 22:41.59 | gsnedders | and spelling |
| 22:42.20 | gsnedders | and… well, yeah, you get the idea. |
| 22:42.56 | bz67 | wrong im not 13 |
| 22:43.09 | blast007 | how old then? |
| 22:43.12 | JeffM2501 | your not over 16 |
| 22:43.15 | JeffM2501 | that's for sure |
| 22:43.16 | spldart | If lack of grammar and spelling abilities = kid then I'm a very old kid |
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| 22:43.31 | bz67 | 15 turning 16 in 3 months |
| 22:43.38 | JeffM2501 | makes sense |
| 22:43.41 | gsnedders | spldart: I'd already said I was 14. The irony was obviously lost :) |
| 22:43.42 | biggeruniverse | I'm a very young old person |
| 22:43.44 | JeffM2501 | hence why I bet 14 |
| 22:45.37 | brlcad | darn, so close |
| 22:45.58 | CBG | 12. |
| 22:45.59 | spldart | [get smart] missed it by that much [/get smart] |
| 22:46.03 | brlcad | :) |
| 22:46.13 | AAA_awright | ... |
| 22:46.14 | bz67 | even though im rubbish at bzf servers i know everything about valve servers |
| 22:46.15 | brlcad | spldart date's himself? :) |
| 22:46.19 | spldart | hehe |
| 22:46.21 | bz67 | woohoo |
| 22:46.28 | spldart | quite effectively |
| 22:46.32 | CBG | bz67: do you use myspace? |
| 22:46.57 | bz67 | no not really i think its stupid |
| 22:47.18 | CBG | Wow, really? You gotta spend at least 2 hours a day on there if you wanna be really cool ! |
| 22:47.25 | spldart | Not really = check out chics on myspace but don't have your own? |
| 22:47.34 | gsnedders | bz67: bebo? |
| 22:47.51 | bz67 | nope |
| 22:47.55 | spldart | ... your own myspace... in case that wasn't clear |
| 22:48.02 | CBG | bebo sucks. myspace is where it's at! |
| 22:48.11 | CBG | Everyone who's someone has a myspace! |
| 22:48.15 | bz67 | i have my own webby |
| 22:48.16 | gsnedders | not around here :P |
| 22:48.17 | spldart | I'm noone |
| 22:48.22 | gsnedders | I have neither |
| 22:48.25 | spldart | ... is there an echo in here? |
| 22:48.34 | gsnedders | in here? |
| 22:49.02 | bz67 | webby webby webby!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:49.21 | gsnedders | how well designed? how much custom code? |
| 22:49.43 | blast007 | (was it made in MS Word?) |
| 22:49.56 | bz67 | nope |
| 22:50.16 | bz67 | macromedia dreamweaver |
| 22:50.27 | gsnedders | in design or code view? |
| 22:50.29 | bz67 | a programme worth 27k |
| 22:50.43 | bz67 | code |
| 22:50.55 | gsnedders | URL of the site? |
| 22:51.07 | spldart | heh |
| 22:51.23 | blast007 | 27000 yen |
| 22:51.28 | bz67 | www.g-evolution.byethost17.com |
| 22:51.36 | bz67 | pounds |
| 22:51.54 | brad | what is that |
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| 22:52.02 | blast007 | an add page...wow, special |
| 22:52.05 | blast007 | ad* |
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| 22:52.54 | bz67 | omg hold on |
| 22:53.06 | gsnedders | yeah, I really believe you hand coded that. |
| 22:53.08 | gsnedders | </sarcasm> |
| 22:53.32 | brlcad | heh, and here I was just wanting a link to "Steel Trunks for Summer Camp" |
| 22:53.35 | bz67 | its wrong |
| 22:53.39 | bz67 | url |
| 22:53.39 | spldart | omg lol... I was almost goin to make a monetary exchange rate value joke at that moment?!?! |
| 22:54.02 | gsnedders | the next design of my blog is coded to HTML 4.01 Strict, CSS 2.0, WCAG 1.0 Level AAA, hAtom |
| 22:54.28 | brlcad | everyone must be waiting for heros on monday! *ahem* :) |
| 22:54.59 | CBG | So, what's the right url, bz67? |
| 22:55.17 | gsnedders | (who used to, or maybe still does, fancy me) |
| 22:55.29 | CBG | gsnedders: to..? |
| 22:55.44 | gsnedders | CBG: random people, who know the whole backstory |
| 22:55.51 | gsnedders | well, maybe not so random |
| 22:55.52 | CBG | Phun. |
| 22:55.57 | brlcad | gsnedders: yet you're talking *about* her and not *to* her? |
| 22:56.03 | brlcad | tsk tsk |
| 22:56.07 | gsnedders | brlcad: I'm too ill :( |
| 22:56.30 | spldart | feeling sick? |
| 22:56.37 | gsnedders | brlcad: I'd've asked her out _months_ ago if I was well |
| 22:56.48 | gsnedders | spldart: CFS. Had it for the past 1.5 years |
| 22:56.58 | spldart | :-( |
| 22:57.35 | gsnedders | she's so nice… |
| 22:57.55 | bz67 | omg what they do to my site |
| 22:58.20 | brlcad | you've been hax0r3d |
| 22:58.59 | spldart | I've always wondered if CFS could be treated with amphetamines of some sort or would trying to pick up energy levels to more normal levels would just bring about other problems physiologically |
| 22:59.15 | CBG | Looks like the work of that infamous Swiss hacker - g00hyer... |
| 22:59.24 | gsnedders | spldart: no, just so physically exhausted it makes very little difference |
| 22:59.37 | gsnedders | LOL |
| 22:59.38 | spldart | Wow... |
| 23:00.14 | brlcad | gsnedders: have you tried to exhaust yourself physically even more just for fun? |
| 23:00.22 | gsnedders | brlcad: no… |
| 23:00.28 | brlcad | like go for a 60 minute run at a low point |
| 23:00.32 | spldart | I'd be chasing the dragon so hard.... |
| 23:00.44 | gsnedders | brlcad: 60 minute!? that'd be impossible |
| 23:00.46 | gsnedders | ROFL |
| 23:00.48 | gsnedders | he runs away! |
| 23:00.56 | gsnedders | brlcad: 1 minute is challenging right now |
| 23:01.01 | gsnedders | brlcad: well, near impossible |
| 23:01.15 | gsnedders | brlcad: and I used to be a long distance runner… longest I've done is 10km |
| 23:01.35 | brlcad | just about every time I'd do an all-nighter in college, I'd force myself to go workout in the gym .. dead tired, but it actually helped |
| 23:01.49 | gsnedders | I'd just collapse. |
| 23:01.55 | gsnedders | fall down even lower. |
| 23:02.06 | brlcad | then where you're at wouldn't seem so low ;) |
| 23:02.23 | gsnedders | :) |
| 23:02.25 | gsnedders | I'm far better than I was |
| 23:02.28 | gsnedders | I got down to the extreme of sleeping 17 hours/day |
| 23:02.42 | gsnedders | keeping yourself hydrated starts to become an issue |
| 23:02.45 | spldart | Yah need a mitochondria transplant. |
| 23:02.53 | brlcad | hmm.. speaking of that, i should go to the gym.. |
| 23:03.33 | gsnedders | but I've been talking too much |
| 23:03.43 | gsnedders | adios |
| 23:03.50 | spldart | ola |
| 23:07.07 | biggeruniverse | he does talk a lot |
| 23:07.23 | biggeruniverse | I'd buy his babble if he'd have stuck around |
| 23:07.30 | biggeruniverse | *I'd have bought |
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| 23:12.59 | spldart | BZ67? |
| 23:14.35 | brad | ~convert 21000 seconds to hours |
| 23:15.01 | spldart | can Ibot to 27000 yen to dollars? hehehe |
| 23:15.22 | spldart | When I was last in Japan it was 240 yen to a dollar... ah the good old days :( |
| 23:15.34 | spldart | and 7 hong kong dollar to 1 us |
| 23:15.51 | spldart | Been a VERY long time |
| 23:16.03 | brad | try xe.org if you really want to know... I think that's where the bot gets that stuff from |
| 23:16.09 | spldart | ah |
| 23:18.48 | spldart | wow... we are still strong to hongkong $ but only half what we used to exchange at against the yen |
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| 23:59.47 | delusional | about Linuxx0r.. who was here earlier complaining that he was banned for a quick turn cheat... I banned him, and this is the second time he was banned for cheating... I followed him, and had other admins do the same, he was turning at about twice the normal rate. ...still, he continues to act like he's innocent |