| 00:06.21 | L4m3r | brlcad: I'm pretty sure this last one was registered by a human |
| 00:08.06 | L4m3r | it used a yahoo.com.au email... never seen that before |
| 00:08.06 | brlcad | so the custom registration form is enabled? |
| 00:08.07 | blast007 | yeah |
| 00:08.07 | brlcad | have there been any other "abuses" since it was turned on? |
| 00:08.07 | blast007 | just the extra question |
| 00:08.18 | L4m3r | hardly any spam at all |
| 00:08.21 | brlcad | i know i haven't had to clean any up in a while |
| 00:08.27 | L4m3r | me neither |
| 00:08.29 | brlcad | hardly any, or none? |
| 00:08.37 | L4m3r | I can't say... |
| 00:08.38 | blast007 | there's been like only 2 or 3 spammers since the change |
| 00:08.47 | brlcad | how long ago was that? |
| 00:08.53 | blast007 | I forget |
| 00:08.55 | blast007 | ;) |
| 00:08.56 | L4m3r | for the last two weeks I've been sleeping in a lot, so if they're there, I'm not getting them |
| 00:09.14 | blast007 | I think at least a week before christmas |
| 00:09.36 | brlcad | well, i think that sounds like a bit of a success then.. nice |
| 00:09.41 | blast007 | yup |
| 00:09.42 | brlcad | ~blast007++ |
| 00:10.08 | L4m3r | ~blast007++ |
| 00:10.23 | a_meteorite | if humans start signing up... you should make it so the callsign has to be played under at least once :) |
| 00:10.31 | a_meteorite | ~blast007++ |
| 00:10.47 | blast007 | a_meteorite: well, they're low traffic so far |
| 00:10.54 | blast007 | humans are easier to control |
| 00:11.25 | blast007 | cuz they can't register as fast as a botnet can :) |
| 00:11.54 | blast007 | brlcad: oh, and I think I also disabled guest access to the memberlist |
| 00:11.56 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 00:12.19 | blast007 | so if any get through or are still around, we won't boost their PR :) |
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| 00:15.48 | brlcad | sounds good |
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| 01:00.51 | Flash | brlcad: I am breaking up my epic into smaller pieces ;-) |
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| 01:13.53 | Destroyer | hi all |
| 01:13.58 | Destroyer | anyone here? |
| 01:14.04 | blast007 | yup |
| 01:14.24 | Destroyer | can you me help if i can compile bzflag on windows? |
| 01:14.48 | Destroyer | i have found this |
| 01:14.50 | brlcad | Flash: glad to hear it |
| 01:14.50 | Destroyer | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=8122&sid=99170befe06d1f9f28616ff2671b0df9 |
| 01:15.36 | Destroyer | and i have install the directX sdk and the plattform sdk |
| 01:15.49 | Destroyer | all that i must have |
| 01:16.08 | Destroyer | but any is wrong |
| 01:16.30 | blast007 | hah, dev C++ |
| 01:16.43 | Destroyer | aha |
| 01:16.48 | Destroyer | i have downloadet it |
| 01:16.52 | Destroyer | and now? |
| 01:16.58 | blast007 | that one is not updated on a regular basis |
| 01:17.22 | blast007 | you *might* have better luck with the Visual C++ 2005 Express edition |
| 01:17.30 | blast007 | but I'm not sure of the status of 2.1 on that |
| 01:17.32 | Destroyer | i HAVE IT TOO |
| 01:17.51 | Destroyer | but he said me |
| 01:18.04 | inchworm | that was short |
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| 01:18.11 | Destroyer | lol |
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| 01:18.38 | blast007 | ah, okay, didn't scroll down in the post |
| 01:19.12 | Destroyer | ok :) |
| 01:19.24 | Destroyer | links 2004 has the same prob |
| 01:19.25 | blast007 | so what compiler are you using? |
| 01:19.34 | blast007 | 2005 express? |
| 01:19.49 | Destroyer | yes |
| 01:19.59 | blast007 | yeah, I think brad had issues with that one too |
| 01:20.06 | Destroyer | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=97373#97373 |
| 01:20.12 | Destroyer | that |
| 01:21.32 | blast007 | probably just missing files in the VC8 project |
| 01:22.11 | blast007 | I don't have 2005 |
| 01:22.57 | Destroyer | i have post my problem |
| 01:23.04 | Destroyer | on the same link |
| 01:23.37 | blast007 | you seem to be missing one of the SDKs |
| 01:23.44 | blast007 | or didn't install/configure it right |
| 01:23.56 | Destroyer | how? |
| 01:24.25 | Destroyer | i have install |
| 01:24.27 | blast007 | RegOpenKeyEx is likely part of the platform SDK |
| 01:24.28 | Destroyer | Microsoft DirectX SDK (August 2006) |
| 01:24.42 | Destroyer | Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 R2 |
| 01:25.16 | Destroyer | i have install the same how links and it works by him on the 2.0.9 version |
| 01:25.39 | blast007 | can you build 2.0.9? |
| 01:25.50 | Destroyer | no |
| 01:26.26 | blast007 | then fix your compiler |
| 01:26.35 | Destroyer | how :P |
| 01:26.48 | blast007 | make sure you follow the directions for each SDK |
| 01:27.00 | Destroyer | i think |
| 01:27.02 | blast007 | README.WINDOWS provides links to where you downloaded them |
| 01:27.09 | Destroyer | ok moment |
| 01:30.29 | Destroyer | yes they i have downloaded |
| 01:30.41 | blast007 | okay, that's step 1 of them :P |
| 01:30.43 | Destroyer | and install :) |
| 01:30.47 | blast007 | you have to configure them too |
| 01:30.57 | blast007 | it's not automatic |
| 01:31.41 | Destroyer | but how? i am a noob in compiling bzflag on windows ^^ |
| 01:32.27 | blast007 | by reading |
| 01:32.27 | blast007 | it's on those pages |
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| 01:35.19 | Destroyer | ops |
| 01:39.09 | Destroyer | if you mean with configuration i must add the folders in the express 2005? |
| 01:41.53 | blast007 | yup, that's one part of the platform SDK |
| 01:41.58 | blast007 | then you have to hand-edit a file too |
| 01:42.15 | Destroyer | whats for a file? |
| 01:42.26 | blast007 | so set 3 and 4 |
| 01:42.36 | blast007 | it's on the page |
| 01:42.49 | Destroyer | can you me give the link? |
| 01:43.20 | Destroyer | url |
| 01:43.21 | blast007 | it's in the readme |
| 01:43.38 | Destroyer | ah |
| 01:45.18 | blast007 | if the DirectX one doesn't work, there is a part on that page called "Installation Notes for All Platforms" |
| 01:47.30 | Destroyer | aha |
| 01:47.40 | blast007 | hmm, suppose you want to do step 5 in the platform SDK |
| 01:47.59 | blast007 | thought that was just a test, but it seems there is some other stuff it turns on |
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| 01:58.39 | Destroyer | hi fant |
| 02:03.53 | Destroyer | i think now works |
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| 03:12.08 | Flash | anyone up for more philosophical discussion on software development in general? |
| 03:12.47 | AAA_awright | Moduralize, seperate, isolate |
| 03:14.27 | Flash | is it better to maintain a style the less skilled programmers are familiar with, or adopt a style that is more consistent with the language? |
| 03:15.19 | AAA_awright | Hmmmm |
| 03:16.15 | AAA_awright | easially readable generally == consistent with language |
| 03:23.23 | Flash | easily readable implies a common basis for understanding |
| 03:23.48 | Flash | for example I can easily read roman characters, but not greek or cyrillic |
| 03:23.53 | tannerld | amusing comments keep the reader alive while skimming through the code :P |
| 03:24.07 | Flash | that doesn't mean that roman is the appropriate character set for writing greek |
| 03:33.47 | spldart | lol @ topic |
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| 03:47.15 | Flash | spldart, why lol? |
| 03:48.18 | Flash | I've spent a lot of time hanging out on comp.lang.c++.moderated, and some of the practices that produce exception-safe code are counterintuitive to "most" programmers |
| 03:50.29 | Flash | nUB, I loved your movie! |
| 03:50.37 | Flash | (oops, wrong window) |
| 03:55.52 | spldart | lol\ |
| 03:56.00 | spldart | power just surged bad over here |
| 03:58.56 | spldart | only stuff that survived... server, phone, cable modem |
| 03:59.09 | Flash | the important things ;-) |
| 03:59.47 | spldart | Oh .. and router |
| 03:59.55 | spldart | yeahj |
| 04:00.09 | spldart | Except I had a timer record on a dvr goin.. lost that ish |
| 04:11.52 | Flash | ok, no philosophy... how about a bzflag question? |
| 04:12.06 | Flash | I notice that I can't run at the two highest resolutions on 2.1 |
| 04:12.20 | Flash | is that an intentional limitation at this time? |
| 04:13.19 | blast007 | what resolutions? |
| 04:16.30 | Flash | 1440x900 and 1152x720 |
| 04:16.45 | Flash | they work in 2.0.x |
| 04:19.59 | spldart | ooOOoo.... never tried those 8-0 |
| 04:21.07 | blast007 | hmm, I probably don't have those to try on my CRT |
| 04:21.17 | blast007 | I can run at 1600x1200 though |
| 04:21.36 | blast007 | what does it do when you try that resolution? |
| 04:21.53 | spldart | s |
| 04:21.54 | spldart | problem |
| 04:22.03 | spldart | ooops...sry |
| 04:22.13 | Flash | it defaults to 1024x768 |
| 04:22.32 | Flash | actually, from the config screen, it changes the resolution to "not available" |
| 04:23.06 | blast007 | anything showing in the chat console area? |
| 04:25.01 | Flash | just NVIDIA GeForce4 MX OpenGL Engine |
| 04:25.18 | Flash | actually, it looks like 1152x720 does work |
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| 04:25.57 | Flash | and while it was at 1440x900 (my default resolution), if I change to a lower res and try to go back, the resolution changes to <unloadable> |
| 04:28.27 | blast007 | not sure |
| 04:28.37 | blast007 | can't duplicate it here since I don't have that res |
| 04:28.57 | spldart | It's his reostatic gonkulator |
| 04:29.03 | spldart | :-x |
| 04:29.05 | blast007 | :) |
| 04:31.28 | Flash | I don't have room for a gonkulator in this laptop |
| 04:32.08 | spldart | Those old thermatake circular hsf's for p4 k7 didn't perform well to truly potent designs of the time 2 years ago but they kick butt on a k6 |
| 04:33.09 | spldart | tis a shame.. gonkulators are good for an extra 10% fps on bzflag :-p |
| 04:33.18 | spldart | But they run your battery down faster |
| 04:33.24 | Flash | well, Apple has a close architecture |
| 04:33.53 | spldart | perhaps some gonk source and a quick compile :-p |
| 04:34.04 | spldart | ... sorry.. done now :) :( |
| 04:34.12 | Flash | a software emulator? that can't help performance |
| 04:34.24 | spldart | I jesting... sorry |
| 04:34.53 | spldart | Gonk = NST |
| 04:35.20 | spldart | IB the ban |
| 04:35.36 | spldart | ~lart Flash |
| 04:35.40 | spldart | :) |
| 04:35.47 | Flash | ~bzfrag spldart |
| 04:35.49 | ibot | ACTION tries to kill spldart, but spldart finds the shield flag |
| 04:35.52 | Flash | bah |
| 04:35.54 | spldart | :-p |
| 04:38.20 | Flash | ~wake spldart |
| 04:38.22 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on spldart and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 04:38.50 | spldart | heh |
| 04:40.57 | Flash | actually, I meant to do a ~greet, but... |
| 04:43.03 | spldart | !ibot |
| 04:43.09 | spldart | just checking |
| 04:43.14 | spldart | ~ksgr |
| 04:43.20 | spldart | ~weather ksgr |
| 04:55.40 | Flash | ~weather kden |
| 04:56.26 | Flash | ~weather kapa |
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| 05:14.38 | spldart | Wow... this S1-370 TL is really rare indeed... :(.. stuck a rage fury on the mobo to give linux some easy support |
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| 07:00.08 | emss | anyone know what *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x09557020 *** means, and how to resolve it? this occurs when I try to play bzflag :( |
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| 08:50.28 | brlcad | hmm |
| 08:50.43 | CIA-3 | ow |
| 08:51.43 | Manu | good morning brlcad ;) |
| 08:51.54 | brlcad | ciao |
| 09:05.31 | Flash | brlcad: are you a vampire or in a European time zone? |
| 09:12.08 | brlcad | neither |
| 09:12.10 | brlcad | i think |
| 09:17.20 | Flash | anyway, to answer your question, Flash == Jim Melton |
| 09:19.50 | brlcad | howdy jim |
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| 09:20.35 | Flash | before I put the next patch in, are you anti std::string functions (e.g., s.assign().append() etc) ? |
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| 09:22.43 | brlcad | probably |
| 09:23.14 | brlcad | i'd suggest avoiding that one for now, there is plenty of other stuff to work on that is easily justified as needing refactoring badly |
| 09:24.10 | Flash | at this point, it's actually more work for me NOT to do it, since I saved the original patch, and I'm cutting in pieces ;-) |
| 09:24.17 | Flash | but I will do as you please |
| 09:25.22 | brlcad | appreciated |
| 09:25.47 | brlcad | as are the changes |
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| 10:24.51 | brlcad | welp, halfway done with the lazarus flag (finally) |
| 10:25.15 | brlcad | and SportChick may finally get her flaggage after all |
| 10:28.52 | L4m3r | lazarus? |
| 10:29.11 | brlcad | flag that mac actualy implemented about 3 years ago |
| 10:29.30 | L4m3r | what does it do? |
| 10:29.35 | brlcad | but he wrote it right before a major release was going out, and it changes protocol |
| 10:29.58 | L4m3r | don't all flags change proto? |
| 10:30.02 | brlcad | so it's sat there ever since.. three major releases later, because it can't just be applied, has to be updated |
| 10:30.11 | brlcad | usually, not necessarily |
| 10:30.18 | L4m3r | or, the client at least |
| 10:30.38 | brlcad | yeah, for it to actually "do" something it does, but not necessarily the communications protocol |
| 10:30.46 | brlcad | this one adds a byte |
| 10:30.49 | L4m3r | yeah :) |
| 10:31.03 | L4m3r | what does it do? |
| 10:31.11 | L4m3r | I'd check the wiki but this DSL sucks |
| 10:31.13 | brlcad | you know the story of lazarus? ;) |
| 10:31.21 | L4m3r | no... |
| 10:31.36 | brlcad | you resurrect after being destroyed |
| 10:31.41 | L4m3r | oh |
| 10:31.51 | brlcad | pretty simple flag, but nifty for some situations |
| 10:31.52 | L4m3r | so, a shield that looks cooler? :P |
| 10:32.10 | brlcad | a shield that can be deceptive (enemy thinks they killed you) |
| 10:32.25 | L4m3r | yeah |
| 10:32.49 | L4m3r | I'd say "what about ID?" but even then, the shield still throws me off :P |
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| 10:33.42 | L4m3r | does it have a BZDB variable for the delay between death and recombination? |
| 10:33.51 | brlcad | yep |
| 10:33.56 | L4m3r | ooooh :D |
| 10:34.35 | brlcad | so yeah, not a ground-breaking must-have flag .. just kinda nifty |
| 10:34.41 | L4m3r | yeah |
| 10:34.51 | brlcad | and annoying that it's been fully implemented for years, but still not made it in |
| 10:35.10 | brlcad | oldest unapplied patch |
| 10:35.26 | L4m3r | heh |
| 10:35.45 | L4m3r | now, you know what could be fun... |
| 10:35.50 | brlcad | heh, older than I thought.. "2001-08-17 18:54" |
| 10:36.01 | brlcad | before mac had commit access, 1.7 days |
| 10:36.19 | L4m3r | instead of an automatic recombination, let them come back to life whenever they want |
| 10:36.33 | brlcad | that would be cool |
| 10:36.40 | L4m3r | could be very strategic then, you could self-destruct and hide with it |
| 10:36.59 | L4m3r | i.e. on enemy turf, and wait for a path to clear for a run |
| 10:37.20 | L4m3r | but useless for camping because it only works once :) |
| 10:37.25 | brlcad | yeah, maybe leave a high default, but allow them to spawn earlier if it was advantageous |
| 10:37.51 | L4m3r | perhaps |
| 10:37.51 | L4m3r | yeah, that's perfect |
| 10:37.51 | brlcad | just so they have to eventually recombine |
| 10:38.07 | brlcad | could be a couple minutes even |
| 10:38.09 | L4m3r | then its tactical usefulness can be limited, which is always good |
| 10:38.23 | L4m3r | set the default limit to 10 seconds or so |
| 10:38.49 | brlcad | that would help differentiate it from shield too |
| 10:38.55 | L4m3r | mmmhm |
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| 10:56.56 | brlcad | ciao Tupone |
| 10:57.09 | Tupone | hola brlcad . Still awake? |
| 10:57.21 | Tupone | or just awaken |
| 10:57.32 | brlcad | bit of both i think |
| 10:58.29 | L4m3r | that's right... aren't you on the west coast brlcad? |
| 10:59.06 | brlcad | L4m3r: nope |
| 10:59.16 | L4m3r | oh... where then? |
| 10:59.36 | L4m3r | 'cuz if you're in North America, you're up too late :P |
| 10:59.46 | brlcad | maryland |
| 10:59.57 | L4m3r | good lord |
| 11:00.17 | brlcad | good times |
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| 13:51.38 | bz01 | need help - anyone? |
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| 13:53.19 | bz01 | had to wipe my hard drive - reinstalled XP - downloaded video drivers - reinstalled BZFlag and can't get graphics right |
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| 13:53.26 | bz01 | Ver 2.04 |
| 13:53.51 | bz01 | too dark and colors not right - and no detail |
| 13:55.21 | bz01 | anyone? |
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| 16:07.19 | mah | hi |
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| 17:12.27 | ts | blast007: Do you have a 2.1 client compiled? |
| 17:12.40 | spldart | ~wake spldart |
| 17:12.47 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on spldart and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 17:12.54 | spldart | bbbbbbbbbbb |
| 17:13.49 | blast007 | ts: yeah, not sure how recent |
| 17:14.17 | ts | blast007: Ok...I need someone to test but I need to compile first.. |
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| 18:19.03 | AAA_awright | ~wake |
| 18:19.13 | AAA_awright | ~wake AAA_awright |
| 18:19.14 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on AAA_awright and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 18:21.43 | tannerld | AAA_awright: no coffee? |
| 18:22.03 | AAA_awright | no *sigh* |
| 18:22.21 | tannerld | pity |
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| 18:51.41 | SportChick | brlcad: the judas flag? |
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| 19:18.57 | brlcad | SportChick: no :) .. but i figured you might like yhe lazarus flag too .. |
| 19:25.34 | SportChick | brlcad: ah, ok |
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| 20:29.43 | spldart | time for some OC experiments... Kaplau |
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| 21:15.50 | tank_002 | whats this here?? |
| 21:15.57 | blast007 | IRC |
| 21:16.08 | tank_002 | is that a BZMessenger? |
| 21:16.12 | blast007 | nope |
| 21:16.17 | blast007 | Internet Relay Chat |
| 21:16.20 | tank_002 | what other`... |
| 21:16.22 | tank_002 | ah... |
| 21:16.32 | tank_002 | but do you play BZFlag?? |
| 21:16.37 | blast007 | yeah |
| 21:16.52 | tank_002 | alias? |
| 21:16.56 | CBG` | Everyone here either plays, has played, or develops bzflag. |
| 21:16.56 | blast007 | blast |
| 21:17.07 | tank_002 | oh...i think i know him |
| 21:17.27 | tank_002 | whats ur nickname CBG'? |
| 21:17.42 | tank_002 | i know Adimarch here |
| 21:17.42 | CBG` | CannonBallGuy |
| 21:17.53 | tank_002 | yeaa |
| 21:18.02 | tank_002 | you are in myyyy..... ducati team! |
| 21:18.11 | CBG` | cool |
| 21:18.17 | tank_002 | in the same ducati team... ;) |
| 21:18.40 | tank_002 | I'm Rudy... |
| 21:18.43 | tank_002 | u know? |
| 21:18.50 | tank_002 | but my name is now tank_002 |
| 21:19.36 | tank_002 | are there something?? |
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| 21:21.04 | tank_002 | back |
| 21:22.00 | tank_002 | some german guys on? |
| 21:22.10 | tank_002 | or swiss as well`? |
| 21:22.18 | inchworm | tank_002: it's a slow channel, alot of us just leave the client going and check back every hour or so |
| 21:22.36 | inchworm | as far as nationality, dunno |
| 21:22.42 | inchworm | never asked :) |
| 21:22.46 | tank_002 | hehe... |
| 21:22.50 | tank_002 | than ask now... |
| 21:23.00 | tank_002 | whats ur nickname in bz inch? |
| 21:23.07 | inchworm | same |
| 21:23.22 | tank_002 | inchworm? |
| 21:23.26 | inchworm | yeppers |
| 21:23.29 | tank_002 | and where do you play`?? |
| 21:23.36 | inchworm | mostly norang |
| 21:23.53 | inchworm | 10 mintes at a time on random servers |
| 21:24.00 | tank_002 | ah.. |
| 21:24.10 | inchworm | i get beat up too much so i frequent the slower servers more :) |
| 21:24.11 | tank_002 | im a good pillbox player |
| 21:24.20 | tank_002 | hehe... old man??? |
| 21:24.22 | inchworm | i'm a bad pillbox player |
| 21:24.32 | tank_002 | whats with gu? ducati? |
| 21:24.35 | inchworm | not really, just not that great |
| 21:24.38 | tank_002 | im a bad gu-player!! |
| 21:24.54 | inchworm | heh i don't really know the difference |
| 21:24.56 | tank_002 | but i like 42arena!!! |
| 21:25.02 | tank_002 | hehe |
| 21:25.02 | inchworm | i just play for the fun every so often |
| 21:25.04 | tank_002 | :D |
| 21:25.18 | tank_002 | yea...than play 42arena! |
| 21:25.58 | inchworm | heh when i get to a computer that can play, sure :) the machine i'm at right now is quite poor for bzflag |
| 21:29.03 | tank_002 | ...hehe |
| 21:29.14 | tank_002 | HEs an old PC? |
| 21:29.33 | tank_002 | hei g2g... |
| 21:29.42 | tank_002 | cu...in 42arena :D |
| 21:29.42 | inchworm | an older laptop.. not much ram, integrated intel video |
| 21:29.44 | blast007 | cya |
| 21:29.46 | inchworm | laters |
| 21:29.51 | tank_002 | :D... yea... bye |
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| 22:17.39 | KTL | what is the idea behind servers with the message "sorry you are not allowed to talk" ??? |
| 22:17.48 | KTL | one can not even say sorry for a tk! |
| 22:18.19 | Flash | if you register your callsign, you can probably talk |
| 22:18.33 | Flash | everyone is encouraged to use global registration |
| 22:18.48 | KTL | i hope so, iirc there was something wrong with my authentication also |
| 22:19.07 | KTL | but i have the habbit of taking a different nick all the time too :D |
| 22:19.29 | Flash | so do spammers and other malcontents, that's why global registration is pushed |
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| 22:21.09 | KTL | i can't say i have seen enough problems with spammers or cheaters to make the registration compulsory, but it is a subjective |
| 22:21.22 | KTL | -a |
| 22:21.23 | Flash | do you run a server? |
| 22:21.34 | KTL | no |
| 22:22.01 | KTL | long ago a bit, i would be more afraid for people compromising the system then for spammers |
| 22:25.01 | KTL | and still, if somebody wants to misbehave on a server that needs registration ... he can allways make an account especially for that use |
| 22:25.31 | KTL | the only thing he has to give is a working email, maybe even not that |
| 22:26.53 | bryjen | a registered account can be silenced or banned by account id |
| 22:28.20 | KTL | then a new one can be made instantly, there are no experience points or something similar the user looses with his old account |
| 22:28.35 | bryjen | these may not be perfect solutions, but they're what we've got |
| 22:29.07 | KTL | :) |
| 22:39.38 | KTL | maybe, if the central db associates a counter to every identity, the higher the counter the older the account, servers can give privileges based on the counter |
| 22:41.26 | KTL | but then some people will try to hack the db to cheat, the cure becomes a new problem |
| 22:46.12 | KTL | that "sorry you are not allowed to talk" is no solution either. |
| 22:47.08 | KTL | wouldn't ie be possible to mute a player like that for x time from the moment on he uses one of the words on the banned list |
| 22:48.04 | KTL | and the second time, double the time and so forth |
| 22:49.57 | Flash | some people join servers just to spew racisim, venom, or other abuse |
| 22:50.16 | Flash | a time-out wouldn't discourage bots |
| 22:50.25 | L4m3r | or rejoiners |
| 22:50.52 | KTL | is there a known case like that? a specialised bz spam bot ? |
| 22:50.58 | Flash | global registration is (currently) the best way we have to assure that the user is a real person who wants to play |
| 22:52.47 | KTL | for more then a year i was euhm ... an expert in making scripts for a game world that did all the work for me, the real game for me was fooling the admins that it were humans playing |
| 22:53.15 | KTL | and i figured out that there is nothing they can do except making really good verification codes |
| 22:58.58 | KTL | pictures with a verification code i mean |
| 23:03.05 | Theme97 | CAPTCHA? |
| 23:03.11 | KTL | are you human? -> check with a verification code picture , do you behave? -> check his words using the word catalog |
| 23:03.29 | KTL | aha thanks i knew it had a name, and i forgot what it was :D |
| 23:05.36 | KTL | but making a good captcha takes a bit of effort too, i broke several simple captcha's |
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