| 00:00.03 | JeffM2501 | then the same argument can be said about just change your driver |
| 00:00.11 | JeffM2501 | to keep it out of the hands of noobs |
| 00:00.54 | JeffM2501 | if we are gonna do it, we should do it right |
| 00:01.14 | JeffM2501 | wonder what AF does, cus that would have to refilter all the textures |
| 00:01.45 | randomparticle | AF? |
| 00:02.00 | JeffM2501 | Anisotropic Filtering |
| 00:02.11 | randomparticle | ah |
| 00:05.59 | randomparticle | brb |
| 00:24.25 | Erroneous | JeffM2501: trepan had AF hooked up at some point. dunno if he ever checked it in. |
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| 00:24.54 | Mr_Molez | TimRiker: ping |
| 00:25.01 | blast007 | AF is in the client if you have GLEW |
| 00:25.16 | Erroneous | yeah, that sounds right |
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| 00:40.39 | JeffM2501 | AF is hooked up |
| 00:40.46 | JeffM2501 | it's AA we were talking about |
| 00:40.53 | JeffM2501 | AF dosn't need a context reload |
| 00:40.55 | JeffM2501 | AA does |
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| 01:50.21 | Mr_Molez | ~bzf20cvs |
| 01:50.29 | Mr_Molez | ~bz20cvs |
| 01:50.31 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
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| 04:26.06 | TheRedBaron | spam anyone? |
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| 05:03.39 | brlcad | trb, thx |
| 05:04.30 | TheRedBaron | brlcad: no problem |
| 05:05.32 | TheRedBaron | somehow... |
| 05:05.45 | TheRedBaron | it doesn't seem appropiate to say, "What happens in vegas, stays in vegas" right now |
| 05:06.24 | vegas | heh |
| 05:06.33 | TheRedBaron | :) |
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| 05:31.00 | L4m3r | Manu: ping |
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| 07:43.59 | Manu | L4m3r: pong |
| 07:44.23 | L4m3r | Someone was trying to impersonate you at mofo FFA earlier... |
| 07:44.43 | L4m3r | they got kicked by the require identify thing, though... 68.6.155.59 |
| 07:44.49 | L4m3r | just letting you know |
| 07:45.13 | Manu | yes I know |
| 07:45.20 | Manu | thanks for the info |
| 07:45.43 | Manu | there is also a tker who impersonate me :( |
| 07:54.12 | L4m3r | ick. asshats :\ |
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| 08:20.21 | LePoulpe303 | hi bzworld |
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| 09:15.17 | tarco | hey |
| 09:15.21 | daniel_jackson | hey |
| 09:15.43 | tarco | hey |
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| 15:32.14 | LePoulpe303 | 14:02 [@ChanServ ] [+SportChick ] [ brad ] [ Guu ] [ orthox ] [ uso ] |
| 15:32.38 | LePoulpe303 | oops |
| 15:32.42 | LePoulpe303 | damned irssi |
| 15:38.13 | CBG | hehe |
| 15:40.52 | SportChick | LePoulpe303: ? :p |
| 15:54.51 | LePoulpe303 | SportChick: : ? :p |
| 15:56.07 | SportChick | hehe |
| 15:56.15 | SportChick | LePoulpe303: you hilighted me :p |
| 15:57.34 | LePoulpe303 | SportChick: oh yes ; i performed a i-dont-know-how-i-did-this-copy-paste |
| 15:57.35 | LePoulpe303 | sry |
| 15:57.37 | LePoulpe303 | :) |
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| 15:57.56 | TheRedBaron | LePoulpe303: most impressive |
| 15:58.04 | LePoulpe303 | something between putty and irssi |
| 15:58.06 | SportChick | LePoulpe303: hehe no problem - I do it all the time :D |
| 15:59.23 | LePoulpe303 | SportChick: i thought i was the only one to have to left arm |
| 15:59.31 | LePoulpe303 | to->two |
| 15:59.38 | LePoulpe303 | ;) |
| 16:01.44 | SportChick | hehe |
| 16:01.51 | SportChick | LePoulpe303: I'm all thumbs ;) |
| 16:01.56 | LePoulpe303 | lol |
| 16:01.59 | LePoulpe303 | so do i |
| 16:02.05 | LePoulpe303 | foot thumbs :D |
| 16:02.17 | SportChick | hehe |
| 16:03.25 | LePoulpe303 | there are not so many girls playing this game |
| 16:03.35 | SportChick | ~bzgals |
| 16:03.36 | ibot | if memory serves, Agent 99, Aribeth, Baroness, BL, bzg, DarthValou, freakyzoid, Grumpf, High Karate Kitty, ibunny, jolly, karlik25, kierra, kiki, Lady K, orchid, pringles, Rebel Chikorita, Soraya, SportChick, [suave], Tegan, Vanillaearth, etc. |
| 16:03.43 | SportChick | more than you think :D |
| 16:03.48 | LePoulpe303 | my wife prefers isketch |
| 16:03.55 | SportChick | bah |
| 16:04.08 | SportChick | it was fun :0 |
| 16:04.11 | SportChick | tell her we even had an all girl ducati match recently :) |
| 16:05.39 | LePoulpe303 | wow |
| 16:05.56 | Chestal | a 1vs1? ;-) |
| 16:06.01 | SportChick | LePoulpe303: we even did a pink match report: http://bzi.bzleague.com/2006/11/historical-history-i-think.html |
| 16:06.10 | LePoulpe303 | Chestal: in mud ? |
| 16:06.14 | SportChick | ? |
| 16:06.16 | LePoulpe303 | naaah sry that 's not elegant from me |
| 16:06.35 | TheRedBaron | ~bad LePoulpe303 |
| 16:06.36 | ibot | Bad LePoulpe303, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 16:06.36 | TheRedBaron | ;) |
| 16:07.32 | LePoulpe303 | what a punishment ! |
| 16:08.07 | Chestal | hmm, cookies |
| 16:08.27 | LePoulpe303 | girls seems to prefer ducati (the one i met in the list anyway) |
| 16:09.16 | LePoulpe303 | called "speculoos" in my country |
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| 16:14.38 | TheRedBaron | ~feed LePoulpe303 bread and water |
| 16:14.39 | ibot | ACTION gives LePoulpe303 bread and water on a paper plate and seats LePoulpe303 on the park bench. |
| 16:14.50 | TheRedBaron | hrm |
| 16:14.57 | TheRedBaron | must have an aversion to bread and water |
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| 16:49.34 | nescius | please add the possibility to change the huds background color, or colour of things on the radar |
| 16:50.08 | nescius | its hard to spot blue things on black radar |
| 16:50.28 | nescius | its even worse with transparency |
| 16:50.35 | TheRedBaron | nescius: its possible to change the color of blue, IE the blue tanks |
| 16:50.51 | nescius | no its not |
| 16:50.59 | Chestal | there are blue tanks? |
| 16:50.59 | nescius | not for common player |
| 16:51.30 | nescius | i am only someone with rights to kick people |
| 16:51.47 | TheRedBaron | nescius: eh? |
| 16:51.54 | nescius | two castles, if you know that server.. |
| 16:52.05 | TheRedBaron | You can change the color in your config, IIRC |
| 16:52.06 | orange | in your configs |
| 16:52.25 | nescius | no, the game allways replaces it |
| 16:52.53 | TheRedBaron | nescius: what OS do you use? |
| 16:53.03 | nescius | BZFlag client 2.0.8.20060916-MAINT-linux-gnu-SDL (protocol 0026) http://BZFlag.org/ |
| 16:53.22 | TheRedBaron | out of my league then |
| 16:54.01 | TheRedBaron | If you use windows, it could be because you don't have the perms to alter the files |
| 16:54.14 | TheRedBaron | don't know if linux has something similar |
| 16:54.16 | nescius | /localset doesnt work there, and i dont have enough rights for //set in game |
| 16:54.48 | nescius | of course i have, but the game alters the config everytime |
| 16:55.41 | nescius | its i think a bug |
| 16:56.52 | nescius | the blueradar is mentioned in online manual of the game but does not working |
| 16:57.09 | nescius | in rendering configuration section |
| 16:57.22 | nescius | here http://www.bzflag.org/help/customization.php |
| 16:59.34 | TheRedBaron | I think your problem may deal with this - "This document only applies to version 1.7. Earlier versions are customized differently." |
| 16:59.36 | TheRedBaron | that document is old |
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| 17:01.46 | nescius | crap! ...ok, is there any chance to achieve it in some other way? |
| 17:01.56 | PuMpErNiCkEl | You're adding a line saying something like "set blueradar "0 0.2 1" to your config.cfg? |
| 17:02.09 | nescius | PuMpErNiCkEl: yes |
| 17:02.19 | PuMpErNiCkEl | hm |
| 17:02.20 | nescius | but without these " |
| 17:03.00 | PuMpErNiCkEl | right |
| 17:04.11 | nescius | woa! its working when its like this: set blueradar "0.4 0.8 1" |
| 17:04.14 | PuMpErNiCkEl | You may need them around the number section - not sure, the docs aren't specific. |
| 17:04.18 | PuMpErNiCkEl | ah |
| 17:04.21 | PuMpErNiCkEl | There you go. |
| 17:04.59 | nescius | thank you, now i can kill you more easily! muhaHAHA! |
| 17:05.59 | PuMpErNiCkEl | :> |
| 17:07.12 | Erroneous | ~PuMpErNiCkEl++ |
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| 17:39.54 | CBG | PuMpErNiCkEl: ? |
| 17:40.25 | CBG | What did I say? |
| 17:40.48 | PuMpErNiCkEl | You told Skeeve how to change tank colors on the radar. |
| 17:41.05 | CBG | Ahhh, yeah, I get you now. |
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| 18:17.09 | kierra | Chestal: ping |
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| 19:23.19 | Han | I just compiled the latest stable and I got: Could not set Video Mode: X11 driver not configured with OpenGL. |
| 19:23.33 | Han | I can play quake3 fine BTW |
| 19:25.34 | Han | There are no post about this on google on the forum. |
| 19:25.50 | JeffM2501 | what video card do you have? |
| 19:26.03 | Han | a nvidia card. |
| 19:26.15 | JeffM2501 | what OS? |
| 19:26.19 | Han | linux |
| 19:26.20 | JeffM2501 | oh X11 |
| 19:26.31 | JeffM2501 | you have the nv drivers or the ones from nvidia? |
| 19:26.39 | Han | the nvidia drivers |
| 19:26.51 | JeffM2501 | then it sounds like X can't do the res swap |
| 19:26.55 | JeffM2501 | try running in a window |
| 19:27.06 | JeffM2501 | bzflag -window -geometry 1024x768 |
| 19:27.13 | Han | bzflag -window gives the same error. |
| 19:27.22 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 19:27.35 | Han | so does adding the geom option |
| 19:27.35 | JeffM2501 | we'll give that error when we ask X to initialise openGL and it fails |
| 19:27.55 | Han | lemme strace that |
| 19:28.24 | JeffM2501 | usualy it's when it asks for a mode that the card dosn't support |
| 19:28.37 | JeffM2501 | but the nvidia implemenation should suport everything we ask for |
| 19:29.40 | Han | Indeed, and I can play other GL games file. |
| 19:29.48 | JeffM2501 | what card is it? |
| 19:29.52 | JeffM2501 | specificly? |
| 19:30.41 | Han | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] (rev a2) |
| 19:30.52 | JeffM2501 | yeah decently new card |
| 19:30.56 | JeffM2501 | current drivers? |
| 19:31.02 | Han | the latest. |
| 19:31.09 | JeffM2501 | very strange |
| 19:31.25 | JeffM2501 | I used to sue 6600's with out issue |
| 19:31.32 | JeffM2501 | use not sue :) |
| 19:31.50 | Han | Now I get it. ;-) |
| 19:32.11 | JeffM2501 | well that's the limit of what I know about X11 issue |
| 19:32.30 | JeffM2501 | unless you didn't build with SDL |
| 19:32.34 | JeffM2501 | do you have the SDL dev packages? |
| 19:33.11 | Han | I checked the configure output and all it was missing was sdl_image, but since it didn't complain I didn't think it was relevant |
| 19:33.22 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's fine |
| 19:33.32 | JeffM2501 | it dos't need SDL image |
| 19:33.39 | JeffM2501 | but it may have built with the older native X stuff |
| 19:33.47 | Han | lets try |
| 19:33.48 | JeffM2501 | check and see if you have the SDL dev packages |
| 19:34.27 | JeffM2501 | then redo config, and it should use SDL, and it does better res swap/window stuff |
| 19:34.27 | Han | I have them, my distro doesn't split packages. |
| 19:34.39 | JeffM2501 | then I got nothin ;) |
| 19:34.51 | JeffM2501 | sorry |
| 19:35.09 | Han | Actually, I am the package maintainer. |
| 19:35.45 | Han | I even fixed this bug in the nvidia package: sed -i '6952d' $PKG/usr/include/nvidia/GL/glext.h |
| 19:38.40 | Han | JeffM2501, does bzflag require mesa3d? |
| 19:43.17 | Han | hmmm same error |
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| 19:49.03 | Han | JeffM2501, I'm onto something, I had mesa3d installed as well for another (broken) package and now I am recompiling and configure complains it can't find GL/gl.h |
| 19:49.30 | Han | But... it can, since I added CPPFLAGS='-I/usr/include/nvidia' checking config.log |
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| 19:51.28 | Han | configure:24369: g++ -o conftest -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector -I/usr/include/nvidia conftest.cc -framework OpenGL -lm -L/usr/lib \ |
| 19:51.31 | Han | -lcurl -L/usr/lib -lcares -lidn -lssl -lcrypto -ldl -lssl -lcrypto -ldl -lz >&5 |
| 19:51.34 | Han | g++: OpenGL: No such file or directory |
| 19:51.36 | Han | cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option "-framework" |
| 20:08.41 | blast007 | I believe the framework test is for OSX |
| 20:08.56 | blast007 | and it just does it in case |
| 20:09.16 | blast007 | it should try several test apps for OpenGL |
| 20:10.27 | Han | well with mesa3d it builds but doesn't work, without it it doesn't build |
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| 21:25.56 | L4m3r | Um... I'm having that shot problem with a freshly-compiled 2.0.9 on Debian. No one can see my shots... what was the remedy again? |
| 21:26.17 | L4m3r | (I'm compiling sans SDL if that makes any difference) |
| 21:27.52 | JeffM2501 | the solution is to compile :) |
| 21:28.21 | tupone_laptop | low optimization level maybe or -fno-strict-aliasing |
| 21:29.08 | JeffM2501 | ^^^^ he knows more then I ;) |
| 21:29.53 | L4m3r | I'll try it without --enable-optimized |
| 21:30.11 | JeffM2501 | there was also a fix to the float packing code, but it was unsure if it went into the branch |
| 21:30.32 | JeffM2501 | you may want to compare branch to head and see what the dilly-o is |
| 21:30.54 | L4m3r | well then, I am going to go get lunch while I let this compile, be back in a bit. |
| 21:31.30 | JeffM2501 | how's it been going tupone_laptop ? |
| 21:31.50 | tupone_laptop | abroad. but good |
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| 21:31.54 | JeffM2501 | cool |
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| 21:45.28 | L4m3r | would -fno-strict-aliasing be an argument to configure or make? |
| 21:46.18 | tupone_laptop | append to CXXFLAGS |
| 21:46.45 | tupone_laptop | well if you know how to do, you can do both at configure time or make time |
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| 21:56.58 | AAA_awright | Quick survey for bzflag server admins: what directory are the server plugins in? Do you keep them in a special directory or use the one that has the defaults? |
| 22:00.07 | JeffM2501 | how many servers actualy use plugins? |
| 22:00.22 | Erroneous | mine does |
| 22:00.24 | Erroneous | err did |
| 22:00.27 | Erroneous | before it caught on fire |
| 22:00.34 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 22:00.38 | Erroneous | mofo does |
| 22:00.42 | blast007 | I use one |
| 22:00.44 | JeffM2501 | heading to fry's tongiht? |
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| 22:00.53 | blast007 | but my server doesn't really count, with a 6 player limit |
| 22:00.54 | Erroneous | no, need to do laundry tonight |
| 22:01.10 | orange | silvercat does, hepcat does |
| 22:01.15 | orange | pretty much all match servers do |
| 22:01.25 | JeffM2501 | that's a decent amount of major servers |
| 22:01.42 | CBG | yeah |
| 22:01.49 | oxSilverF | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.16 | blast007 | quite a few other servers run a few of the default plugins |
| 22:02.35 | oxSilverF | fairCTF has to be the most popular of plugins... |
| 22:02.38 | Erroneous | maybe tomorrow to fry's |
| 22:02.44 | CBG | I was about to say: a large portion of the big ones.. |
| 22:03.00 | blast007 | rogue genocide, shockwave death, and playHistoryTracker are popular from what I've gone to |
| 22:03.17 | oxSilverF | what does playHistoryTracker do? |
| 22:03.17 | JeffM2501 | realy? SWDeath? |
| 22:03.23 | JeffM2501 | I thought that would be anoying |
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| 22:03.30 | blast007 | I didn't say I liked it ;) |
| 22:03.32 | JeffM2501 | it does the "rampage" and "killing spree" stuff |
| 22:03.41 | Erroneous | playHistoryTracker is cool |
| 22:03.49 | oxSilverF | JeffM2501: I think its kind of neat, but most find it annoying, and doesn't last long on any populated server. |
| 22:03.55 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 22:03.58 | oxSilverF | ah. |
| 22:04.02 | CBG | rogue geno does kinda defeat the point of being a rogue... |
| 22:04.06 | JeffM2501 | pHT is cus I play too much UT |
| 22:04.14 | blast007 | CBG: yeah, I don't stay long at servers like that |
| 22:04.27 | JeffM2501 | forgot who asked for RG |
| 22:04.29 | CBG | It doesn't bother me much, I just find it silly. |
| 22:04.32 | Erroneous | heh, pH Tracker ;) |
| 22:04.43 | AAA_awright | May as well kill everyone |
| 22:04.43 | oxSilverF | need a stats plugin. |
| 22:04.44 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 22:05.00 | blast007 | Global Genocide :) |
| 22:05.04 | AAA_awright | :D |
| 22:05.13 | JeffM2501 | would not be hard to mod it |
| 22:05.23 | blast007 | Kill All Humans |
| 22:05.29 | oxSilverF | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.34 | blast007 | yeah, or do that |
| 22:05.35 | JeffM2501 | IIRC 2 characters would do it |
| 22:05.37 | AAA_awright | Exactly. |
| 22:05.40 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.45 | AAA_awright | What about teammates? |
| 22:05.59 | blast007 | kill 'em all :) |
| 22:06.03 | JeffM2501 | then it woudl not realy be "global" ;) |
| 22:06.24 | AAA_awright | And it would drop the average score from an ideal zero real fast |
| 22:06.54 | CBG | Gnurdux (iirc) made a Global Geno |
| 22:07.24 | oxSilverF | do that and put a single geno flag at the very top of the map called "king of the mountain" |
| 22:07.28 | oxSilverF | could be fun. |
| 22:07.33 | CBG | heh |
| 22:07.51 | AAA_awright | Interesting... |
| 22:08.08 | L4m3r | tupone... dammit |
| 22:08.19 | L4m3r | it worked and now I can't thank him :( |
| 22:08.39 | Erroneous | memoserv, L4m3r |
| 22:08.41 | L4m3r | heh |
| 22:08.59 | L4m3r | ~tupone_laptop++ |
| 22:09.04 | AAA_awright | Say, where does BZFlag put the plugins after a compile? (or does it comple them...) |
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| 23:07.44 | AAA_awright | Is anyone ever going to update the bzflag man page? |
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| 23:09.44 | Mr_Molez | why would a wifi card cause bzflag to crash ? |
| 23:12.45 | CBG | When is the world gonna end? |
| 23:13.44 | L4m3r | where the hell is my pen? |
| 23:13.46 | L4m3r | :) |
| 23:14.05 | CBG | Who ate all the pies? |
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| 23:14.23 | L4m3r | you did, apparently |
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| 23:16.07 | CBG | L4m3r: I left 1... it was going blue, so didn't risk it. |
| 23:16.41 | Mr_Molez | anyone know why a wireless pci card would make bzflag crash :P |
| 23:17.52 | wes|me3 | why is my special parts itchy? |
| 23:18.23 | wes|me3 | er,.. . thought we were asking our questions here |
| 23:18.39 | CBG | why are fuses not sold in almost all shops, like batteries? |
| 23:24.36 | AAA_awright | I have wondered that... |
| 23:24.59 | AAA_awright | Mabye you don't need as many fuses as batteries, CBG. |
| 23:25.21 | CBG | AAA_awright: sure, but you still need them in the same sense that you need batteries.. |
| 23:25.23 | AAA_awright | Or you could be like Radioshack and sell more fuses than batteries... |
| 23:25.30 | CBG | I don't think I ever saw a fuse on sale. |
| 23:26.14 | CBG | I see batteries on sale in 90% of shops I visit. |
| 23:26.49 | AAA_awright | Actually, a good place to get them from is, of all places, car part shops. |
| 23:27.41 | CBG | Heh... |
| 23:28.09 | AAA_awright | (To go back on topic,) I just compiled bzflag, does anyone know if it compiles plugins, too? Where does it put them? |
| 23:28.51 | AAA_awright | *re-compiled (Portage only has 2.0.4... so I compiled from source 2.0.8) |
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