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| 00:29.15 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: ping |
| 00:29.47 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 00:30.10 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: do you have a windows binary of opencombat ? |
| 00:30.19 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 00:30.25 | JeffM2501 | because there is no opencombat |
| 00:31.21 | Mr_Molez | is that the same thing as the weird tank game that looked similar to bzflag ? |
| 00:31.33 | JeffM2501 | the top view thing? |
| 00:31.36 | Mr_Molez | yeh |
| 00:31.42 | JeffM2501 | that was GPx01 |
| 00:31.45 | Mr_Molez | oh lol |
| 00:31.52 | Mr_Molez | thats what i was talkinga bout |
| 00:31.54 | JeffM2501 | it's not done, you can't play it |
| 00:31.58 | Mr_Molez | ah ok |
| 00:32.03 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't have anything to "play" |
| 00:32.18 | JeffM2501 | mostly it's got a busted menu that's about it |
| 00:32.29 | Mr_Molez | lol ok |
| 00:32.30 | JeffM2501 | and it'll download a map from the server |
| 00:32.41 | Mr_Molez | is there a url for it ? |
| 00:32.55 | Mr_Molez | or a pic :P |
| 00:34.47 | JeffM2501 | don't remember |
| 00:34.47 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 00:35.15 | Mr_Molez | some 1 was saying they wanted a game with over head view |
| 00:35.28 | Mr_Molez | i mentioned opencombat (obviously meaning GPX01) |
| 00:35.42 | JeffM2501 | you can do overhead view in 2.1 |
| 00:35.55 | JeffM2501 | enable third person and set the camera |
| 00:35.57 | Mr_Molez | oh |
| 00:36.04 | Mr_Molez | while playing ? |
| 00:36.13 | JeffM2501 | Noodleman, in the config before you play |
| 00:36.17 | JeffM2501 | it makes me puke |
| 00:36.23 | JeffM2501 | oops, no not Noodleman |
| 00:36.25 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
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| 01:52.36 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/net/src/ (netLag.cpp netMessages.cpp): quell warnings |
| 01:53.02 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/client/src/game.cpp: more taking reference to temporaries fixies |
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| 02:37.27 | brlcad | woot, client compiles |
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| 02:44.26 | TD-Linux | o.O |
| 02:44.34 | SportChick | :) |
| 02:52.32 | TD-Linux | does GPx01 use freetype1 or 2? |
| 02:53.11 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/server/src/ (serverGame.cpp simpleServerGame.cpp simpleServerWorld.cpp): more minor warnings, unhandled case values, and taking references to temporaries squished |
| 02:53.51 | brlcad | 2 |
| 02:56.16 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/ (Makefile.osx 3d/Makefile client/Makefile server/Makefile): move the client/server lib variables into the top level makefile so that the values are easy to tweak, add a hacked entry for myself so that it compiles without hassle if I give it a dirty flag |
| 02:56.48 | TD-Linux | hmm. |
| 02:58.46 | brlcad | welp, it's all compiling now at least |
| 02:58.55 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/Makefile.linux: since they was moved, add der client lib vars to larnux too |
| 03:01.40 | TD-Linux | ...I think the freetype problems are on my end. |
| 03:01.55 | TD-Linux | /usr/include/ft2build.h:56:38: error: freetype/config/ftheader.h: No such file or directory |
| 03:02.22 | TD-Linux | the file it's referring to is actually in freetype2/freetype/config/ftheader.h |
| 03:02.26 | TD-Linux | ...symbolic link time |
| 03:03.12 | brlcad | "<prefix>/include/freetype2" must be in your current inclusion path |
| 03:03.24 | TD-Linux | there we go, all fixed... the symbolic link worked. |
| 03:03.32 | brlcad | heh |
| 03:03.51 | brlcad | the proper fix would have been to fix the makefile and add the -I that is missing |
| 03:03.52 | TD-Linux | sudo ln -s /usr/include/freetype2/freetype /usr/include/freetype |
| 03:04.10 | TD-Linux | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgpm |
| 03:04.16 | brlcad | mucking with symbolic links only just happens to work with ft2build.h as it only includes exactly one file |
| 03:04.17 | TD-Linux | hmm... what is that? |
| 03:04.38 | brlcad | there are a variety of edits you have to make to your makefile so that it'll work for your environment |
| 03:04.53 | TD-Linux | oh. |
| 03:04.55 | brlcad | old school style, this isn't autodetection stuff -- you are expected to edit the Makefile |
| 03:05.02 | TD-Linux | okay... |
| 03:06.53 | TD-Linux | ... what does the -lgpm error mean? |
| 03:07.37 | brlcad | which means that 1) you have to determine what libs you need based on unresolved symbols, 2) you need to add -L/path/to/lib -llib flags to the appropriate ldflags for those libraries and, 3) you need to add -I/path/to/include for missing header problems (like the missing freetype one aforementioned) |
| 03:07.53 | brlcad | -l means "link against this library" |
| 03:08.02 | brlcad | this library being the gpm library |
| 03:08.06 | brlcad | i.e. libgpm.so |
| 03:08.08 | TD-Linux | hmm okay. |
| 03:08.49 | brlcad | if it can't find it, it's either because you 1) don't have it installed or 2) are missing the -L/path/to/lib on the link line (as part of the ldflags in the makefile) |
| 03:09.21 | TD-Linux | ...I didn't have it installed, I do now. |
| 03:09.32 | TD-Linux | Got farther now... but still dosen't work. |
| 03:09.32 | brlcad | though you still need to (1) "determine what libs you need based on unresolved symbols" i.e. determine whether -lgpm is even necessary (like by trying to remove it (temporarily) from the makefile) |
| 03:09.51 | brlcad | you're going to run into probably a dozen issues like that |
| 03:10.04 | brlcad | you're just getting started |
| 03:10.19 | TD-Linux | ...yay. |
| 03:10.31 | TD-Linux | err... it's... umm... past my bedtime. |
| 03:10.37 | brlcad | tis good practice/exercise though.. this is fundamental compilation stuff that everyone should know |
| 03:10.44 | TD-Linux | okay. |
| 03:10.45 | brlcad | everyone that develops at least |
| 03:11.20 | brlcad | knowing how to properly provide inclusion and linker dirs, list your libraries, figure out which libraries you even need, etc |
| 03:11.32 | TD-Linux | okay. |
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| 03:30.49 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/Makefile.osx: |
| 03:30.49 | CIA-3 | opencombat: refactor the makefile to consolidate the build options to just three lines so |
| 03:30.49 | CIA-3 | opencombat: that the build can be tweaked just by passing CFLAGS, CPPFLAGS, and/or LDFLAGS |
| 03:30.49 | CIA-3 | opencombat: to make (or by editing only those lines in the makefile if preferred) |
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| 04:03.03 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/Makefile.osx: one more tweakage, more clean building and easier override |
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| 04:30.56 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/ (Makefile Makefile.linux Makefile.osx): |
| 04:30.56 | CIA-3 | opencombat: add a primary makefile that autodetects the supported platforms and provides a |
| 04:30.56 | CIA-3 | opencombat: little instruction on how to set your flags to get things to build, allowing |
| 04:30.56 | CIA-3 | opencombat: more simple invocation rules (like just running 'make' and 'make clean') |
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| 05:48.03 | Cybodog | howdy, is the server that lists the bz games down? |
| 05:48.28 | Flash | I think so |
| 05:48.51 | Cybodog | cool! I can not register, but I see others who are, must have joined before the downage. |
| 05:48.58 | Cybodog | thanks flash |
| 05:49.06 | Flash | I got stuck too |
| 05:49.15 | Cybodog | RedDog here |
| 05:49.17 | Flash | "Unable to talk to listserv |
| 05:49.28 | Cybodog | but irc nick is owned by someone eles |
| 05:49.34 | Cybodog | yup |
| 05:49.49 | Flash | you can check with a staffer, if it is idle you can take it over |
| 05:49.54 | Flash | that's what I had to do |
| 05:50.06 | Cybodog | damn idlers |
| 05:50.29 | Cybodog | this is in use, will not let me change |
| 05:50.51 | Cybodog | hmmm, could change my bz name to cybodog |
| 05:51.05 | Cybodog | that way I can sucker in all the pros who know my tricks |
| 05:51.14 | Flash | what do you mean "will not let you change" |
| 05:51.21 | Flash | did you talk to a staffer? |
| 05:51.27 | Cybodog | RedDog :Nickname is already in use. |
| 05:51.47 | Cybodog | as in /nick RedDog |
| 05:51.51 | Flash | yes, but they can free it for you if it hasn't been used in a couple of months |
| 05:51.51 | Cybodog | RedDog :Nickname is already in use. |
| 05:52.05 | Cybodog | no, you don't get it, it IS in use right NOW |
| 05:52.29 | Cybodog | other wise it would ask me for a password |
| 05:52.50 | Cybodog | or it would change me then say nick is reg. what is the password, but it will NOT let me change at all |
| 05:53.11 | Cybodog | hence it is in use and it is registerd |
| 05:53.52 | merighthereright | see? |
| 05:55.50 | Flash | time to check on the listserv again |
| 05:55.56 | Cybodog | still down |
| 05:56.13 | Cybodog | How do you register again? |
| 05:57.02 | Flash | in bzflag or IRC? |
| 05:57.18 | Cybodog | bzflag |
| 05:58.37 | Cybodog | found it, under the faqs |
| 05:58.41 | Flash | I believe it is from http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ but that seems to be down too |
| 06:00.18 | Flash | Cybodog: one issue is that you can only register one callsign per e-mail address |
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| 06:01.36 | Cybodog | flash, I have all the email address I can ever want ;) |
| 06:01.58 | Cybodog | hey sportchick |
| 06:01.58 | Flash | most of us do, I suppose |
| 06:02.12 | Cybodog | stupid away |
| 06:02.21 | Cybodog | running screen, not bad |
| 06:02.35 | Cybodog | now that is a neat trick |
| 06:03.11 | Cybodog | quit a few names I know here |
| 06:03.33 | Cybodog | have not seen the purple_cow in a long time, where do you hang out at? |
| 06:03.45 | Flash | listserver is back up |
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| 06:03.50 | Cybodog | weeeeee |
| 06:08.51 | purple_cow | Cybodog: hm? |
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| 06:11.08 | Cybodog | purple_cow, RedDog |
| 06:11.36 | Cybodog | cybodog=RedDog and it is my hope at leaset you know that name, or all my kills have been in vain! |
| 06:11.45 | Cybodog | woo is me! |
| 06:11.51 | Cybodog | I know |
| 06:12.01 | Cybodog | put out to pasture? |
| 06:12.23 | Cybodog | that other cow from tx run you off? |
| 06:15.01 | purple_cow | no, I just got bored with it |
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| 07:03.07 | master_tux | Hi everyone |
| 07:05.26 | blast007 | hello |
| 07:06.04 | master_tux | can anyone tell me what CVS is? |
| 07:08.29 | blast007 | CVS is a version system for source code |
| 07:09.09 | blast007 | http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=3248 |
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| 11:23.31 | brad | ~bbzcvs |
| 11:23.38 | brad | ~bzcvs |
| 11:23.41 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P bzflag (this is for HEAD ie: 2.1 see also bz20cvs) |
| 11:25.51 | brad | ~bz20cvs |
| 11:25.52 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
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| 12:45.32 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/server/inc/listConnection.h: no newline at eof |
| 12:45.41 | SportChick | good morning brad |
| 12:45.44 | SportChick | and brlcad :) |
| 12:46.30 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03brlcad * 10GPx01/ (Makefile.bsd Makefile): now builds cleanly on freebsd too |
| 12:48.33 | brlcad | good morning fair SportChick |
| 12:49.15 | SportChick | how are you, brlcad ? :) |
| 12:49.54 | brlcad | peachy |
| 12:50.36 | SportChick | :) |
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| 14:09.05 | benji_13 | hey guys |
| 14:11.27 | A_Heart_Attack | hey |
| 14:11.36 | benji_13 | :) |
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| 14:50.31 | lucky_luke | hello |
| 14:50.37 | lucky_luke | i really need some help |
| 14:50.55 | lucky_luke | my client crahes with "segmantation fault (core dumped) |
| 14:51.25 | lucky_luke | i cant join any server... |
| 14:51.36 | lucky_luke | does anyone know what to do? |
| 14:52.09 | SportChick | lucky_luke: you need to specify some things |
| 14:52.17 | SportChick | what OS, what distro, what version of bzflag |
| 14:52.22 | lucky_luke | sure :) |
| 14:53.00 | lucky_luke | Ubuntu Edgy eft (linux), bzversion 2.0.8 installed via synaptic (also tried to compile it from sourece) |
| 14:53.25 | lucky_luke | i cant run gdb, cause the system freezes after a bz crash |
| 14:53.40 | SportChick | lucky_luke: the best thing to do (for now) is sit on this channel and wait for someone to answer - many people are probably still asleep |
| 14:53.55 | SportChick | they will read what you said, butwill need you to be here when they are ready to ask questions |
| 14:53.57 | lucky_luke | ;) will do |
| 14:54.07 | SportChick | I am, alas, hopeless with both linux and computers in general |
| 14:54.45 | lucky_luke | the probs came since I updated my client... |
| 14:55.09 | Chestal | it crashes when you join a server? |
| 14:56.35 | SportChick | ~chestal++ |
| 14:57.54 | lucky_luke | yeah |
| 14:58.02 | Chestal | with a certain curl version I had crashed on Debian, whenever I joined a server using global login, unless I had invoked the server list before |
| 14:58.11 | lucky_luke | i allready trid that |
| 14:58.15 | lucky_luke | doesnt work... |
| 14:58.40 | Chestal | have you tried running in a window (bzflag -window) and release mouse, does your X/computer freeze then, too? |
| 14:58.57 | Chestal | testing is no fun when you have to reboot each time... |
| 14:59.42 | lucky_luke | tried everything, nothing worked since now... |
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| 15:46.55 | master_tux | Can anyone help? I just installed bzflag on my slackware system, and I type bzflag in the console, and it says it can find the fonts, use -directory. Where are the important files for bzflag installed? |
| 15:49.27 | orange | can you use the package system to list out the files it installed? |
| 15:53.42 | master_tux | thing is I deleted the directory when I installed it |
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| 16:11.11 | orange | you deleted it after you installed it? |
| 16:11.14 | master_tux | hmm, ok bzflag runs fine, but its slow as hell |
| 16:11.19 | master_tux | yea, i restored it |
| 16:11.33 | orange | sounds like software GL... there are other folks who can help with that |
| 16:11.34 | orange | not me :-) |
| 16:11.43 | master_tux | I have openGL |
| 16:11.52 | orange | yeah, but not getting hardware accel |
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| 16:20.55 | benji_13 | hey |
| 16:27.45 | master_tux | rehub... sounds aroussing |
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| 17:03.27 | master_tux | hi again |
| 17:04.22 | blast007 | master_tux: hello :) |
| 17:05.07 | master_tux | where can I download an OpenGL graphics accelerator? |
| 17:05.34 | blast007 | a graphics accelerator is a video card |
| 17:05.41 | blast007 | what video card do you have? |
| 17:05.51 | master_tux | not sure |
| 17:06.19 | master_tux | bzflag runs mad slow on linux though |
| 17:06.39 | master_tux | it was ok on windows, so I dont know why it wont run normal |
| 17:06.53 | blast007 | well, on linux you probably didn't install drivers |
| 17:07.13 | master_tux | how do I install windows drivers? |
| 17:07.20 | blast007 | you don't |
| 17:07.25 | blast007 | you would install linux drivers |
| 17:07.35 | blast007 | but that requires that you know what video card you have |
| 17:07.57 | master_tux | where do I get the linux equivelents of the windows drivers? |
| 17:08.13 | blast007 | it depends on what video card you have.... |
| 17:08.35 | master_tux | ... is there any easy way to find out? |
| 17:08.46 | blast007 | lspci at a terminal might show it |
| 17:09.17 | master_tux | a lot of stuff showed up |
| 17:09.33 | blast007 | look for one that says VGA |
| 17:09.37 | blast007 | here's mine: 00:08.0 VGA compatible controller: Tseng Labs Inc ET6000 (rev 30) |
| 17:10.06 | master_tux | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
| 17:10.06 | blast007 | or do: lspci | grep VGA |
| 17:10.11 | blast007 | ah, intel |
| 17:10.29 | master_tux | is intel ok? |
| 17:11.28 | blast007 | not really |
| 17:11.35 | blast007 | let's just say it'll be "fun" to get working |
| 17:11.52 | blast007 | if I were you, I'd post on the forums |
| 17:12.08 | blast007 | I'm seeing some drivers from Intel for linux though |
| 17:12.10 | blast007 | http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Filter_Results.aspx?strOSs=39&strTypes=DRV&ProductID=955&OSFullname=Linux* |
| 17:12.40 | blast007 | but I personally haven't ever tried to get an Intel graphics chipset working in linux |
| 17:13.42 | blast007 | the other option would be DRI |
| 17:13.53 | blast007 | (as opposed to the intel drivers) |
| 17:14.01 | Chestal | theoretically, the x.org i810 driver should work. I never had an intel gfx chip, though |
| 17:14.09 | blast007 | yeah |
| 17:14.29 | blast007 | Chestal: would that be DRI? or is that more built-in now? |
| 17:14.40 | Chestal | no clue |
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| 17:14.51 | blast007 | I haven't used X in ages for any real stuff |
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| 20:30.44 | SpazzyMcGee | jeff: that was perfect image conformation timing ;) |
| 20:31.04 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
| 20:31.29 | SpazzyMcGee | heh, it was not you then? |
| 20:31.42 | blast007 | SpazzyMcGee: or the question was vague |
| 20:31.52 | JeffM2501 | it was |
| 20:31.59 | JeffM2501 | it is always me |
| 20:32.54 | SpazzyMcGee | good work. |
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| 21:53.24 | a_meteorite | JeffM2501: ping |
| 21:53.34 | JeffM2501 | sup? |
| 21:53.57 | a_meteorite | Well, if you had a choice between ATI Rage XL or a Geforce 1, what would you go after? |
| 21:54.18 | a_meteorite | I need Windows and Linux acceleration and decent BZFlag frame rates (I know it's gotta beat 2 fps) |
| 21:54.32 | a_meteorite | Oh, GeForce 2MX 32MB |
| 21:54.57 | JeffM2501 | geforce |
| 21:55.03 | a_meteorite | k |
| 21:55.17 | JeffM2501 | rage is not a TnL card |
| 21:55.21 | JeffM2501 | geforece is |
| 21:55.32 | a_meteorite | ah |
| 21:55.33 | JeffM2501 | also nvidia provides linux drivers for all cards after the TnT |
| 21:56.05 | JeffM2501 | ATI only does for the higher end 9k series of radeons |
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| 21:56.07 | JeffM2501 | and newer |
| 21:57.59 | a_meteorite | ok thanks |
| 22:04.16 | SportChick | wnwn 13 |
| 22:04.21 | SportChick | wn 73 |
| 22:04.25 | SportChick | grrr |
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| 22:46.16 | Bluer | hi, where can I obtain the 2.0.9 tarball? |
| 22:46.47 | JeffM2501 | there isn't one |
| 22:46.51 | JeffM2501 | it's cvs |
| 22:47.41 | Bluer | ok, thanks |
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| 22:56.46 | JeffM2501 | just make sure you get the v2_0branch |
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| 23:44.35 | master_tux | is there a program I can use to make KDE splash screens? |
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