| 00:00.37 | JeffM2501 | your hardware |
| 00:00.44 | JeffM2501 | what card you have? |
| 00:01.51 | silverfox | I checked out the "web" project, but there doesn't appear to be any web-like source files. |
| 00:02.05 | silverfox | oh, sorry, yes. hardware. |
| 00:02.30 | silverfox | Its 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Radeon Mobility M300] |
| 00:02.35 | JeffM2501 | web has all the php files |
| 00:03.10 | silverfox | JeffM2501, then I must have checked out web wrong. I'll come back to that in a second (sorry I split the discussion) |
| 00:03.11 | JeffM2501 | and the moni config |
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| 00:04.49 | hardwire | rawr? |
| 00:05.21 | silverfox | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@bzflag.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P web |
| 00:05.24 | silverfox | is that not correct? |
| 00:05.51 | hardwire | hmmhmmhm |
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| 00:06.51 | JeffM2501 | that is it |
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| 00:07.16 | silverfox | Ah, I see the moin_config.py now |
| 00:07.50 | silverfox | expected it in /wiki, then I saw the .htaccess, and found it in cgi-bin |
| 00:09.18 | JeffM2501 | yeah tim has it set up all odd |
| 00:10.07 | silverfox | its ok, I'm just new to it is all. |
| 00:12.17 | JeffM2501 | what video card do you have? |
| 00:12.24 | JeffM2501 | and were you runing in high or experimental? |
| 00:12.34 | JeffM2501 | well actualy all the quality levels changed |
| 00:20.44 | silverfox | JeffM2501, its a Radion Mobility M300 (mentioned above), and I was running in high, but I tried Medium too. |
| 00:21.02 | silverfox | the frame rate was fine, and the quality looked good, but it just "jumped". |
| 00:21.40 | silverfox | almost like it updated one frame like normal, then did 10 frames 50ms ago, then went back to normal. repeats this cycle consistently. |
| 00:22.43 | silverfox | is doxygen no longer used? |
| 00:32.26 | silverfox | Should I remove the link to it? |
| 00:44.46 | silverfox | where should I send the patch to? |
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| 00:46.43 | catay | silverfox: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bzflag/ |
| 00:58.28 | silverfox | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1582066&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 01:02.47 | silverfox | lol... |
| 01:10.40 | JeffM2501 | high is old exerimental |
| 01:10.44 | JeffM2501 | medium is old high |
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| 01:15.12 | silverfox | ah. |
| 01:24.12 | silverfox | JeffM2501, I don't think this is a typical performance issue. |
| 01:24.21 | silverfox | I wish there was a way I could record it so you could play it back. |
| 01:29.34 | JeffM2501 | we changed a lot of stuff |
| 01:29.41 | JeffM2501 | maybe it's got something the mobilitys don't like |
| 01:29.56 | JeffM2501 | there is usualy an optimisation pass before release |
| 01:33.26 | silverfox | well, let me know if I can assist w/debugging. |
| 01:37.20 | JeffM2501 | does your framerate drop? |
| 01:37.25 | JeffM2501 | or just the controll feels slow? |
| 01:38.38 | silverfox | neither really. |
| 01:38.38 | silverfox | its smooth for 50ms, then stops for 50ms, then smooth, then freezes, and so on. |
| 01:38.38 | silverfox | its not 2.1 |
| 01:38.38 | silverfox | its my OS. |
| 01:38.39 | silverfox | or drivers or whatever. |
| 01:38.39 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 01:38.39 | JeffM2501 | windows or nix? |
| 01:38.44 | silverfox | nix. |
| 01:38.44 | silverfox | ubuntu |
| 01:38.50 | JeffM2501 | ATI have real drivers for that chipset? |
| 01:38.54 | JeffM2501 | or you using DRI? |
| 01:38.55 | silverfox | Dunno. |
| 01:39.13 | silverfox | I'm new to X. |
| 01:39.22 | JeffM2501 | you just do a default install? |
| 01:43.16 | blast007 | seems to be a Radeon Mobility X300 |
| 01:43.27 | JeffM2501 | that's a newer card |
| 01:43.34 | JeffM2501 | it's part of there onboard chipsets |
| 01:43.39 | JeffM2501 | they should have some drivers for it |
| 01:44.05 | silverfox | yes, with --optimize |
| 01:44.05 | blast007 | yup, they do |
| 01:48.32 | silverfox | I'm using the fglrx driver in the dapper repository. |
| 01:48.47 | JeffM2501 | get the one from ATI |
| 01:49.05 | JeffM2501 | it's closed source so they don't install it by default |
| 01:50.32 | silverfox | gotcha. |
| 01:50.40 | silverfox | I'm installing it now. |
| 02:01.25 | JeffM2501 | blast007, you arround? |
| 02:01.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10admin/master-bans.txt: ban for single YourDead IP |
| 02:02.35 | a_meteorite | heh, it would be nice to actually keep your dead away |
| 02:02.44 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 02:03.37 | blast007 | JeffM2501: yeah |
| 02:03.46 | JeffM2501 | can you ban an IP at the list server? |
| 02:03.53 | JeffM2501 | iptables or whatever it does |
| 02:04.04 | a_meteorite | IIRC, he has another name he goes by. I can't seem to recall it at the moment. :( |
| 02:04.14 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 02:04.15 | blast007 | the list server php script itself has a ban ability |
| 02:04.20 | JeffM2501 | so just edit the page? |
| 02:04.25 | blast007 | yeah |
| 02:04.36 | blast007 | it's a nice litte array of IPs |
| 02:04.38 | JeffM2501 | let me give that a shot |
| 02:04.40 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 02:04.41 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
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| 02:09.26 | JeffM2501 | I find it halarious that I can read the file, delete the file, but not replace the file :) |
| 02:09.30 | SilverFox | that made it substantially worse. |
| 02:09.34 | SilverFox | 0 fps. |
| 02:09.45 | JeffM2501 | when it starts up does it say it's using mesa? |
| 02:09.50 | JeffM2501 | or anything about indirect? |
| 02:09.51 | blast007 | better than -1 FPS, I suppose |
| 02:09.57 | a_meteorite | lol |
| 02:10.15 | SilverFox | JeffM2501, yep! |
| 02:10.19 | SilverFox | both, actually. |
| 02:10.27 | JeffM2501 | then it's not using the new driver |
| 02:10.34 | JeffM2501 | it's kicked into software |
| 02:10.35 | SilverFox | heh... figures. |
| 02:10.38 | JeffM2501 | make sure it's setup right |
| 02:11.08 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: delete permission is based on the permissions of the parent directory, not of that file...that's why you get that situation occasionally |
| 02:11.30 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 02:11.46 | JeffM2501 | cus I can't overwrite it, but I can delete it and copy in a new one, it's just funny |
| 02:11.53 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 02:11.59 | DTRemenak | that comes up a lot on sf |
| 02:12.15 | DTRemenak | files are typically not g+w but directories typically are |
| 02:12.24 | JeffM2501 | wasn't on SF :) |
| 02:12.41 | DTRemenak | same holds for any group-based scheme actually |
| 02:13.02 | DTRemenak | gets mentioned a lot for sf though |
| 02:13.04 | JeffM2501 | I just hate editing the file, like if I miss a , the entire list may go "poof" |
| 02:13.18 | DTRemenak | well, then you can make it come back :) |
| 02:13.32 | blast007 | JeffM2501: then you'll be the hero when you fix it |
| 02:13.44 | JeffM2501 | list server lay on hands |
| 02:13.47 | SilverFox | It would appear that the driver I had installed originally was the correct one. |
| 02:13.48 | SilverFox | http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide |
| 02:14.03 | JeffM2501 | then something else is sucking up your CPU |
| 02:14.14 | DTRemenak | err, cpu |
| 02:14.18 | JeffM2501 | you may want to run with the fps limiter on to free up some cup |
| 02:14.21 | JeffM2501 | cpu |
| 02:14.53 | DTRemenak | renice bzflag -10 :) |
| 02:14.59 | SilverFox | there is an fps limiter? |
| 02:15.38 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 02:15.40 | JeffM2501 | config option |
| 02:23.45 | SilverFox | oh.... |
| 02:23.47 | SilverFox | beagle maybe? |
| 02:24.31 | SilverFox | google desktop used to cause bzflag to freakout in a similar fashion (except it was the inputs that were freezing momentarily, not the display) |
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| 03:16.27 | hardwire | interesting |
| 03:17.18 | hardwire | I think I want to be updating SegmentedShotStrategy::checkHit() and reducing the velocity of the bullet based on the local players flag. |
| 03:17.25 | hardwire | I can see why BZDB was made |
| 03:17.39 | hardwire | very handy dandy |
| 03:21.35 | hardwire | I wish Jeff waz here |
| 03:21.38 | hardwire | this code is nuts |
| 03:21.46 | hardwire | well.. its probably pretty normal |
| 03:22.39 | blast007 | nuts is a good way to describe a lot of the code |
| 03:22.47 | blast007 | but much of it used to be worse ;) |
| 03:23.10 | blast007 | src/bzfs/ used to only contain bzfs.cxx and bzfs.h iirc |
| 03:23.17 | blast007 | it was all in those two files |
| 03:23.35 | hardwire | you know much about CheckHit? |
| 03:24.18 | hardwire | like when it says "check each segment" is it talking about checking the entire length of the shot as it "could" happen |
| 03:24.22 | hardwire | for a tank in its way |
| 03:26.39 | hardwire | oh this is totally funky code |
| 03:26.54 | blast007 | hmm, yeah, I agree |
| 03:26.56 | hardwire | getPath.getFlag() gets your own flag.. |
| 03:26.59 | hardwire | but .. |
| 03:27.01 | hardwire | auha |
| 03:27.02 | hardwire | lsafkdj |
| 03:27.04 | hardwire | ;fka;lsda;falk |
| 03:27.16 | hardwire | I atleast added a flag definition and added it to the game |
| 03:27.19 | hardwire | but this is just nutz |
| 03:27.43 | hardwire | oh weird |
| 03:27.47 | blast007 | no, it gets the flag of the SegmentedShotStrategy, which could be another tank that fired it |
| 03:27.56 | hardwire | I assume getPath.getFlag means.. get the Flag of the first tank in your path |
| 03:28.01 | hardwire | your shots path |
| 03:28.22 | hardwire | really? |
| 03:28.29 | blast007 | yeah |
| 03:28.38 | blast007 | like for instance, Laser uses SegmentedShotStrategy |
| 03:28.40 | hardwire | does this code come with a dummy guide? |
| 03:28.48 | hardwire | yeh.. |
| 03:28.54 | hardwire | I remember actually seeing the segments in mesa |
| 03:29.04 | blast007 | so if someone shot a laser, all clients would create a SegmentedShotStrategy for that shot, and getPath().getFlag() would return laser |
| 03:29.32 | hardwire | ooh |
| 03:29.38 | hardwire | so its the flag of the person who fired it |
| 03:29.49 | hardwire | or rather the flag of the shot |
| 03:29.56 | blast007 | yeah, the second thing you said ;) |
| 03:29.59 | hardwire | yeh |
| 03:30.07 | hardwire | any idea how to dumb down the velocity? |
| 03:30.09 | blast007 | cuz they can drop the flag after firing |
| 03:30.16 | blast007 | whatcha mean exactly? |
| 03:30.37 | hardwire | I mean.. if each checkupdate I were to make it go gradually slower |
| 03:30.49 | hardwire | err |
| 03:30.52 | hardwire | checkhit |
| 03:30.58 | blast007 | I guess I am unsure what you are trying to accomplish |
| 03:31.06 | hardwire | I chose checkhit because what I intend has to deal with tank proximity detection |
| 03:31.12 | the_enemy | mines? |
| 03:31.14 | hardwire | blast007: I am adding the "Neo" flag |
| 03:31.24 | hardwire | let me paste the definition :) |
| 03:31.27 | blast007 | hardwire: you really can't do it :) |
| 03:31.38 | blast007 | well, hmm |
| 03:31.42 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.43 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.45 | hardwire | hehe |
| 03:31.54 | hardwire | but now I guess it may effect laser |
| 03:31.58 | tannerld | heh |
| 03:32.04 | blast007 | would other tanks see the effect your tank is creating? |
| 03:32.05 | tannerld | it effecting laser would be cool :D |
| 03:32.05 | hardwire | the idea is really simple I guess |
| 03:32.10 | hardwire | yeh it would |
| 03:32.18 | hardwire | blast007: of course.. its client code |
| 03:32.35 | blast007 | they you can't necessarily use checkHit, because that only deals with your own tank |
| 03:32.49 | hardwire | blast007: it needs to know the normal velocity.. or initial direction of the bullet before it became affected by the proximity of the tank |
| 03:32.56 | hardwire | so it can speed up again after you swerve around it |
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| 03:33.24 | blast007 | sounds like a nightmare to sync between clients |
| 03:33.33 | hardwire | thats kidn of what I was thinking |
| 03:33.39 | hardwire | but it would be similar enough |
| 03:33.43 | blast007 | you considered what 300ms of lag would cause? ;) |
| 03:33.50 | blast007 | or packet loss? |
| 03:34.07 | hardwire | I asusme the clients will be up to date enough to handle this on their own |
| 03:34.13 | blast007 | not really |
| 03:34.39 | hardwire | what about a flacid bullet bad flag :) |
| 03:34.45 | hardwire | it just kinda slows down and droops to the floor |
| 03:34.52 | hardwire | hehe |
| 03:35.09 | hardwire | until it hits the floor and explodes |
| 03:35.26 | blast007 | I can see that being easier |
| 03:35.35 | blast007 | because it's a fixed effect |
| 03:37.18 | hardwire | hmm |
| 03:37.23 | hardwire | I think the neo bullet could happen |
| 03:37.26 | hardwire | err |
| 03:37.27 | hardwire | neo flag |
| 03:37.46 | hardwire | I have been pulling my hair out trying to find a way to slow time |
| 03:38.03 | hardwire | and I finally came up with the proximity thing.. and now you are all boohoo remember people in china.. don't you love them anymore! |
| 03:38.15 | tannerld | have you tried a flux capaciter? |
| 03:38.20 | hardwire | :) |
| 03:38.38 | hardwire | I may have to rename this flag |
| 03:39.17 | hardwire | I am surprised the oscillation overthruster doesn't have a high-alpha laser that only the player sees before it enters a wall |
| 03:40.24 | tannerld | high-alpha laser for what? |
| 03:40.24 | tannerld | to bore through the wall? |
| 03:40.24 | hardwire | naw |
| 03:40.24 | hardwire | like in Buckaroo Banzai |
| 03:40.24 | hardwire | he had to turn on the guidy laser thingy |
| 03:40.24 | hardwire | before the OO worked |
| 03:40.49 | tannerld | never seen it |
| 03:41.00 | the_enemy | what about if the shot got "absorbed" by the tank with the neo flag no matter what. So either it hits the tank in the area effect or the shot vaporizes. |
| 03:41.04 | hardwire | blast007: I should be able to somehow address via the BZDB the current direction of each bullet right? |
| 03:41.13 | the_enemy | then you wouldn't have to worry about speeding it up again |
| 03:41.28 | hardwire | the_enemy: that was an earlier thought |
| 03:41.36 | hardwire | like later on when they just drop tot he ground |
| 03:41.42 | hardwire | in the matrix series |
| 03:42.01 | hardwire | could add gravity feild to |
| 03:42.10 | hardwire | just up the velocity on the z axis |
| 03:42.18 | blast007 | hardwire: no, you can't |
| 03:42.23 | hardwire | :( |
| 03:42.33 | blast007 | BZDB is only for storing stuff like configuration |
| 03:42.39 | hardwire | ok |
| 03:42.43 | hardwire | well.. hmm.. |
| 03:42.52 | hardwire | ::update may be my only hope |
| 03:43.14 | hardwire | I just have to somehow add an identifier to a shot about its relationship to a tank as seen by checkHit() |
| 03:43.27 | hardwire | and how much to dumb down the results of getDirection() |
| 03:43.45 | blast007 | bzdb could store how much to dumb it down |
| 03:43.52 | blast007 | then all clients would have that information |
| 03:44.11 | hardwire | that would be seriously laggalitios |
| 03:44.33 | hardwire | having 30+ clients to inform in around 2 seconds about 15 shotUpdates |
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| 03:46.11 | hardwire | do you think getPath().setVelocity() works? |
| 03:47.29 | hardwire | I could update the speed of the bullet oh.. around every 100ms |
| 03:47.38 | hardwire | to make it a bit more playable via network |
| 03:48.55 | hardwire | the_enemy: what happens if somebody fires at me.. and I am near it but it never continues at my tank.. |
| 03:48.56 | hardwire | now the bullet is just.. slow.. |
| 03:49.03 | Silver[a] | method 2 worked dandy. |
| 03:50.34 | blast007 | hardwire: I meant for BZDB to store a configuration of how much effect the Neo flag has |
| 03:50.38 | blast007 | it won't change anything |
| 03:50.44 | blast007 | s/anything/ |
| 03:50.47 | hardwire | meh |
| 03:50.51 | hardwire | so BZDB is synced? |
| 03:50.53 | blast007 | s/anything// |
| 03:50.55 | blast007 | yeah |
| 03:50.59 | hardwire | thats kidna handy |
| 03:51.11 | hardwire | so does it sync to everybody including myself after the next server update? |
| 03:51.16 | blast007 | so you could say that it can slow the shot down by up to 50% |
| 03:51.30 | blast007 | and make the effective radius be 10 units |
| 03:51.38 | blast007 | then each client would use that for their calcualtion |
| 03:51.39 | hardwire | eh? |
| 03:51.42 | hardwire | oh |
| 03:52.03 | hardwire | so set up the bzdb to say that shot ID 4450 is now kinda pokey |
| 03:52.08 | hardwire | that sounds more doable |
| 03:52.10 | blast007 | no |
| 03:52.23 | blast007 | the clients know the shot is near the player with Neo |
| 03:52.34 | blast007 | (assuming no lag, packet loss, or otherwise) |
| 03:52.38 | hardwire | yeh.. back to my original thought :) |
| 03:52.45 | hardwire | can you use the bzdb as backup :) |
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| 03:53.02 | Silver[a] | hey L4m3r. |
| 03:53.14 | Silver[a] | you seen my modification of your 1on1rules plugin? |
| 03:53.21 | L4m3r | hi. |
| 03:53.26 | L4m3r | no I haven't |
| 03:53.43 | Silver[a] | its running on silvercat.bzflag.org:5154 right now... |
| 03:53.47 | Silver[a] | Meet you there? |
| 03:54.02 | L4m3r | um, ok? |
| 04:14.15 | hardwire | this is.. weird.. |
| 04:17.01 | hardwire | I removed setVelocity(dir); completely from the strategy update.. and.. it still does stuff |
| 04:17.11 | hardwire | so thats obviously not what I want to be doing |
| 04:18.00 | hardwire | tata.. going to watch movie and eat cake |
| 04:19.46 | hardwire | this is weird.. |
| 04:19.58 | hardwire | do the shots go faster forward if the tank is moving faster forward? |
| 04:20.01 | hardwire | weird |
| 04:20.02 | hardwire | bbl |
| 04:20.14 | Theme97 | Yes. |
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| 04:52.06 | delusional | silverfox, is that smallTeams plugin? |
| 05:48.03 | Silver[a] | delusional, yes |
| 05:48.28 | delusional | how's it work? |
| 05:49.25 | Silver[a] | pretty well. |
| 05:49.26 | Silver[a] | ;) |
| 05:49.41 | Silver[a] | Are you familiar with the 1on1rules plugin? |
| 05:50.17 | delusional | I'M the one who originally suggested it |
| 05:50.24 | Silver[a] | ah. |
| 05:50.33 | Silver[a] | Well, its the same rules, with two exceptions... |
| 05:50.54 | Silver[a] | 1) You can designate how many online players make it "small teams" when the plugin is loaded. |
| 05:51.14 | delusional | so you still get only one kill per flag? |
| 05:51.25 | Silver[a] | 2) If you kill someone on a team who has more players than your team, you don't drop your flag. |
| 05:51.30 | Silver[a] | yes. |
| 05:51.33 | delusional | ahhh, nice |
| 05:52.07 | Silver[a] | there are 13 players online right now, so I can't really show you... |
| 05:52.08 | delusional | well, hope you post your source, I've got a big list I'm gonna post |
| 05:52.17 | Silver[a] | I suppose I could load the plugin with 20 or less makes small teams. |
| 05:52.25 | Silver[a] | big list of what? |
| 05:52.29 | delusional | plugins |
| 05:52.32 | Silver[a] | ah |
| 05:52.39 | Silver[a] | Do you know of any statistic plugins? |
| 05:52.44 | delusional | mofo has some that aren't fully public |
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| 05:55.44 | A-Delusion | gah, my connection crapped out |
| 05:56.58 | A-Delusion | here's the full planetmofo plugin list http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/214735 |
| 05:57.38 | A-Delusion | mapchange is getting a workout lately, and bzfscron is experiencing a revival |
| 05:57.59 | A-Delusion | bzfscron is powerful |
| 06:27.23 | hardwire | \whats missiles.so? |
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| 06:45.40 | DTRemenak | woot, bzfscron :) |
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| 07:36.41 | Silver[a] | what is mapchange? |
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| 08:10.22 | tarco | hi dj |
| 08:10.32 | daniel_jackson | hey |
| 08:10.40 | tarco | you sleep in LOL |
| 08:10.51 | daniel_jackson | actually till 6pm |
| 08:10.59 | tarco | wow |
| 08:11.07 | tarco | was it nice |
| 08:11.30 | daniel_jackson | not after I woke up and found out what time it was |
| 08:11.48 | tarco | lol |
| 08:12.11 | tarco | dabian died |
| 08:12.12 | daniel_jackson | I think our problem last night was dhcp configuring the network card |
| 08:12.37 | daniel_jackson | really we were going to kill it anyway |
| 08:12.53 | tarco | i am now as we speak instaling suse 10.1 |
| 08:13.27 | daniel_jackson | are you wanting to continue with debian a somepoint |
| 08:13.30 | daniel_jackson | ? |
| 08:13.47 | tarco | when i get a dvd iso |
| 08:13.55 | tarco | geting it of the net stinks |
| 08:14.03 | tarco | it works then it don't |
| 08:14.14 | tarco | i was fighting it to day |
| 08:14.18 | daniel_jackson | thats only when it doesn't work |
| 08:14.38 | tarco | then i said stuff it i'll format you |
| 08:14.42 | daniel_jackson | what we had last night was a rare "nightmare case |
| 08:14.48 | tarco | lol |
| 08:15.09 | daniel_jackson | I'm sorry aout that |
| 08:15.14 | tarco | np |
| 08:15.35 | tarco | hey can suse still have that designer thingy we were thalking about last nigkt |
| 08:15.37 | daniel_jackson | because now you have a bias against the net install |
| 08:16.27 | tarco | well it was stupid havig to configer the network cad when it wast the servers side fult not answerinh |
| 08:16.49 | daniel_jackson | thats not what the problem was |
| 08:16.52 | tarco | also i have dsl |
| 08:16.56 | tarco | 512mb |
| 08:17.01 | daniel_jackson | true |
| 08:17.08 | tarco | slow |
| 08:18.03 | tarco | so what was the 3d design thing for bzflzg |
| 08:18.11 | daniel_jackson | my school just recently moved, and they have downgraded from cable to dsl, for one of thier "toy" networks |
| 08:18.21 | daniel_jackson | blender |
| 08:18.26 | tarco | lol |
| 08:18.35 | tarco | can dlender work on suse |
| 08:18.41 | tarco | blender |
| 08:18.45 | daniel_jackson | the instructors are pissed |
| 08:18.53 | tarco | on what |
| 08:19.11 | daniel_jackson | yeah, but you may have to search for it in yast |
| 08:19.19 | tarco | oh |
| 08:19.42 | tarco | i'l probly get diben tomirow |
| 08:20.11 | daniel_jackson | there pissed about how crokked my school's upper management |
| 08:20.19 | daniel_jackson | crooked |
| 08:20.31 | tarco | lol |
| 08:20.50 | daniel_jackson | well it is a "private" school |
| 08:21.01 | tarco | lol |
| 08:21.07 | tarco | i went to one |
| 08:21.23 | tarco | and the computer manager could not ge xp to talk to red hat |
| 08:21.40 | tarco | so we had stinkin 98 |
| 08:21.47 | daniel_jackson | the upper managent is representing themselves, and not doing anything for the students |
| 08:21.59 | tarco | sounds about right |
| 08:22.22 | daniel_jackson | funny story, we have a new Bio tech dept. |
| 08:22.32 | tarco | yeah |
| 08:23.20 | daniel_jackson | the head tech guy that has to buy equipment, doesn't even know about computer hardware |
| 08:23.34 | daniel_jackson | the funny part is ... |
| 08:23.37 | tarco | lol |
| 08:24.09 | daniel_jackson | they need to do 3d viewing of like DNA |
| 08:24.21 | tarco | yep |
| 08:24.54 | daniel_jackson | so this purchased a bunch of these huge CRT moniters, because the seller said it was good deal ... |
| 08:25.03 | tarco | oh no |
| 08:25.43 | daniel_jackson | next he purchases all theses high quality video cards, like the top of Nvidea's or ATI's |
| 08:25.58 | tarco | nvidas good |
| 08:26.24 | tarco | there only the chip set |
| 08:26.46 | daniel_jackson | when he puts the systems together he notices that the monitors all have VGA cables you know the blue d-shaped |
| 08:27.05 | tarco | dsub |
| 08:27.12 | daniel_jackson | yeah |
| 08:27.26 | tarco | but the graphic cards had hdmi |
| 08:27.32 | daniel_jackson | yep |
| 08:27.37 | tarco | lol |
| 08:27.54 | tarco | know all about that whep plasmer shopping |
| 08:28.12 | daniel_jackson | so they now have to buy vga to hdmi adapters |
| 08:28.18 | tarco | lolo |
| 08:28.23 | daniel_jackson | and that not the end of it |
| 08:28.31 | tarco | o oh |
| 08:29.54 | daniel_jackson | prior to all this, the school's department offers to help him find the correct equipment, but he declines ... |
| 08:30.02 | Rawk | hi daniel_jackson :-) |
| 08:30.09 | daniel_jackson | hey rawk |
| 08:30.19 | tarco | hehehe |
| 08:30.27 | daniel_jackson | school's tech dept |
| 08:30.38 | Rawk | what are ya up to? |
| 08:30.49 | tarco | moping around |
| 08:30.51 | daniel_jackson | oh just venting |
| 08:30.55 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 08:31.09 | Rawk | good on you |
| 08:31.13 | tarco | board waiting for suse 10.1 to load |
| 08:31.29 | daniel_jackson | talking about idiots in the IT dpt |
| 08:31.33 | daniel_jackson | dept |
| 08:31.48 | daniel_jackson | at my private college |
| 08:32.02 | tarco | dinner time |
| 08:32.16 | Rawk | have you seen http://rinkworks.com/stupid/ |
| 08:32.37 | daniel_jackson | who where do your parents go at night tarco? |
| 08:33.04 | daniel_jackson | ok thank you rawk I'll have t bookmark it |
| 08:33.23 | Rawk | its got some good ones |
| 08:33.28 | tarco | my parents are away on a month long holloday |
| 08:33.40 | tarco | yeah :( |
| 08:33.41 | *** join/#bzflag ibunny (n=alex@pdpc/supporter/active/jolie) |
| 08:33.44 | ibunny | manu manu |
| 08:34.03 | daniel_jackson | what did he do now? lol |
| 08:34.30 | daniel_jackson | is the listserver down again? |
| 08:34.35 | ibunny | he didnt call ! |
| 08:34.49 | tarco | oh great anothe party crasher |
| 08:34.49 | daniel_jackson | oh thats even worse! |
| 08:35.12 | ibunny | morning daniel and taco |
| 08:35.24 | daniel_jackson | it tarco |
| 08:35.40 | ibunny | ok it taco |
| 08:35.55 | daniel_jackson | tarco is name of aussie food |
| 08:36.05 | daniel_jackson | taco is a name of Mexican food |
| 08:36.27 | daniel_jackson | theres a difference! lol |
| 08:36.31 | ibunny | taco also means the high heel. |
| 08:36.38 | tarco | no i wan't to be diffrent the just plain taco |
| 08:36.41 | daniel_jackson | really? |
| 08:36.46 | tarco | yep |
| 08:36.55 | ibunny | what sorta taco u wanna be? |
| 08:37.02 | tarco | lol |
| 08:37.23 | ibunny | :) |
| 08:37.28 | tarco | i like taco so i used the name tarco caus no one else would have that name |
| 08:37.55 | tarco | also like eating thaem |
| 08:38.01 | ibunny | they r nice |
| 08:38.06 | tarco | + i can't spell |
| 08:38.17 | daniel_jackson | hey I told you guys about the lady that called into the help desk, when power was out |
| 08:38.22 | daniel_jackson | ?? |
| 08:38.28 | ibunny | its ok .. when taco talk is goin on spelling.. is diffffiiccccults |
| 08:39.01 | daniel_jackson | depends it hard for a hard taco, but easy for a soft taco |
| 08:39.05 | ibunny | and she told u have 7 days? |
| 08:39.26 | tarco | 7 days or what |
| 08:39.49 | ibunny | u need to watch a film taco. |
| 08:40.12 | daniel_jackson | what is this aussie club? lol |
| 08:40.27 | tarco | huh |
| 08:40.32 | tarco | u lost me |
| 08:40.37 | ibunny | im not aussie |
| 08:40.43 | ibunny | i think he needs some tacos |
| 08:40.50 | daniel_jackson | why does tarco need tgo watch a film? |
| 08:41.07 | ibunny | so he understand what "7 days " means |
| 08:41.17 | daniel_jackson | oh ok! |
| 08:42.27 | daniel_jackson | "and the room goes quite" |
| 08:42.47 | tarco | :p |
| 08:42.47 | ibunny | quits? quiet? |
| 08:42.59 | tarco | :p :p at you |
| 08:43.06 | daniel_jackson | the 2nd one |
| 08:43.10 | ibunny | ill bet he wanted to say quiet |
| 08:43.19 | ibunny | taco u make daniel_jackson nervious |
| 08:43.29 | Rawk | here's an example from rinkworks: Customer: "There are smoke and flames coming from my computer." Tech Support: "Uh, hang up, unplug the computer from the wall, and call the local fire department." Customer: "That's not the problem. I need to know how to do a backup. Fastest possible method." |
| 08:43.38 | daniel_jackson | really? I'm not nervous |
| 08:44.01 | tarco | ibunny you stink |
| 08:44.10 | ibunny | i doubt it. |
| 08:44.22 | ibunny | i think ur nose is b0rked |
| 08:44.37 | daniel_jackson | how do you smell over an ethernet cable? |
| 08:44.45 | ibunny | ask taco |
| 08:44.50 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 08:44.57 | tarco | poo |
| 08:45.14 | Rawk | he's the one with the special powers |
| 08:45.15 | daniel_jackson | kids play nice |
| 08:45.29 | tarco | youck i hate my cooking |
| 08:45.42 | ibunny | im no kid or playing. |
| 08:45.47 | ibunny | but im nice. |
| 08:45.54 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 08:45.57 | tarco | tasted like i don't know |
| 08:46.04 | tarco | not a taco |
| 08:46.25 | daniel_jackson | you just need to develop it more tarco |
| 08:46.27 | Rawk | tarco: send it down the line for me to try |
| 08:47.25 | daniel_jackson | what were you cooking? |
| 08:47.48 | Rawk | tacos? |
| 08:48.24 | ibunny | [10:44] tarcopoo |
| 08:48.53 | daniel_jackson | actually its 6:49 tarco time |
| 08:49.20 | ibunny | either we known now his pooping time .. or what he cooks? |
| 08:49.25 | ibunny | anyways... |
| 08:49.53 | Rawk | daniel_jackson: how about this one: Customer: "I've been connected to the Internet for about ten minutes now, and my computer started smoking about five minutes ago. Is your building on fire?" |
| 08:49.59 | tarco | steah and a chees and spinich thing |
| 08:50.10 | tarco | stake |
| 08:50.13 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 08:50.25 | ibunny | stalk! |
| 08:50.28 | tarco | i doo a mean bbq |
| 08:50.36 | daniel_jackson | careful with the spinach |
| 08:50.37 | tarco | stake ibunny |
| 08:50.42 | ibunny | steak |
| 08:50.50 | tarco | that |
| 08:50.53 | ibunny | :) |
| 08:50.58 | tarco | mm yum steak |
| 08:51.06 | ibunny | enjoy. |
| 08:51.09 | Rawk | yum, bunnies |
| 08:51.12 | tarco | tks |
| 08:51.16 | ibunny | eek |
| 08:51.17 | tarco | lol |
| 08:51.18 | daniel_jackson | in the USA, we just recalled a bunch of spinach for ecoli |
| 08:51.25 | tarco | oh |
| 08:51.28 | tarco | um |
| 08:51.28 | ibunny | keep your dirty hands away from em RAWK |
| 08:51.49 | Rawk | they your pets? |
| 08:51.50 | daniel_jackson | actually we been wanting to feed to our "do nothing" goverment |
| 08:51.57 | tarco | cheese and spinache |
| 08:52.11 | daniel_jackson | any spices? |
| 08:52.12 | tarco | lol |
| 08:52.16 | tarco | no |
| 08:52.19 | CBG | spinach shouldn't have ecoli..? :P |
| 08:52.33 | ibunny | cbg cbg <3<3 |
| 08:52.48 | daniel_jackson | not unless the handler transmittied it |
| 08:52.54 | tarco | ibunny it hunting season |
| 08:52.58 | CBG | ibunny: <3 <3 <3 |
| 08:53.14 | tarco | bang |
| 08:53.17 | ibunny | hmm hunting taco time! |
| 08:53.22 | ibunny | chomp* |
| 08:53.24 | tarco | ngot one |
| 08:53.25 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 08:53.41 | Rawk | this is a yummy topic (^) |
| 08:53.45 | tarco | bang got another one |
| 08:54.00 | ibunny | taco go cook! |
| 08:54.03 | tarco | any one see any good movies latly |
| 08:54.06 | ibunny | no wonder ur food doesnt taste good.. |
| 08:54.09 | tarco | eating now |
| 08:54.23 | daniel_jackson | so whats the problem with what you cooked? is it bland? |
| 08:54.48 | tarco | yuck microwaves stuff |
| 08:54.53 | ibunny | ... |
| 08:55.23 | tarco | mmm diffrent though |
| 08:55.29 | tarco | cheese and spin |
| 08:55.37 | daniel_jackson | oh, its usually the micromave setting that can make or break a frozen meal |
| 08:55.59 | tarco | steak was pan others microwaved |
| 08:56.11 | daniel_jackson | oh ok |
| 08:56.30 | daniel_jackson | do you like BBQ sauce? |
| 08:56.32 | tarco | soo any good movies latly |
| 08:56.38 | tarco | pepper |
| 08:56.40 | tarco | yuck |
| 08:56.47 | tarco | drink |
| 08:57.03 | daniel_jackson | let me guess "yuck"? |
| 08:57.08 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 08:57.30 | daniel_jackson | you add some BBQ sause in with the steak |
| 08:57.49 | tarco | no tommato sauce |
| 08:58.07 | tarco | ibunny u there |
| 08:58.18 | ibunny | changin diaper. |
| 08:58.25 | tarco | lol yours |
| 08:58.29 | ibunny | my sons. |
| 08:58.33 | tarco | oh |
| 08:58.39 | daniel_jackson | how old? |
| 08:58.43 | tarco | 13 |
| 08:58.49 | daniel_jackson | no! |
| 08:58.50 | ibunny | almost 3 |
| 08:58.54 | daniel_jackson | cool |
| 08:59.02 | tarco | lol |
| 08:59.36 | tarco | ibunny have you see cars |
| 08:59.42 | ibunny | http://fabian.kilobug.org/sept2006/ |
| 08:59.44 | ibunny | there. |
| 08:59.52 | daniel_jackson | I don't think I'm ready for a kid yet, plus it doesn't help that I don't a girlfriend |
| 08:59.59 | tarco | lol |
| 09:00.29 | tarco | i neeed a new keyboard |
| 09:00.33 | ibunny | get a taco he has microwave expirience.. thats manly good. |
| 09:00.52 | tarco | huh |
| 09:00.55 | daniel_jackson | well where I live I see all these young girls my age with babies |
| 09:00.56 | tarco | ???? |
| 09:01.03 | ibunny | hehe |
| 09:01.07 | ibunny | relax taco, eat. |
| 09:01.13 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 09:01.19 | tarco | nearlyt finnished |
| 09:01.40 | tarco | :p |
| 09:01.45 | tarco | :0 |
| 09:01.46 | daniel_jackson | how long you been doing the install? |
| 09:01.53 | tarco | hour |
| 09:02.05 | daniel_jackson | thats not bad |
| 09:02.11 | tarco | 2 hour install |
| 09:02.21 | daniel_jackson | oh |
| 09:02.47 | tarco | still a long way to go |
| 09:03.10 | tarco | helo |
| 09:03.19 | daniel_jackson | is that you in the pictures aswell ibunny? |
| 09:03.36 | ibunny | yes. |
| 09:03.38 | tarco | oh |
| 09:03.43 | tarco | :p |
| 09:04.01 | tarco | is the kid cute |
| 09:04.55 | daniel_jackson | nice pictures, you have a cute kid, and your not so bad looking yourself |
| 09:04.56 | tarco | huh |
| 09:05.04 | ibunny | im NOT so bad looking taco. |
| 09:05.12 | tarco | you a hunl |
| 09:05.12 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 09:05.15 | tarco | hunk |
| 09:05.29 | ibunny | hm hunk is for males.. |
| 09:05.30 | daniel_jackson | women aren't hunks |
| 09:05.33 | ibunny | so i look manly. |
| 09:05.37 | ibunny | hm interesting. |
| 09:05.42 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 09:05.45 | tarco | srry you a lady |
| 09:05.56 | ibunny | and you r taco. |
| 09:06.06 | tarco | huh |
| 09:06.19 | daniel_jackson | see its that south of the equator thing it messes with your head! lol |
| 09:06.25 | tarco | help |
| 09:06.40 | ibunny | Ecuador <3<3<3 |
| 09:06.44 | ibunny | homeeee |
| 09:06.55 | daniel_jackson | oh your in ecuador? |
| 09:07.08 | tarco | yuck spinach |
| 09:07.08 | ibunny | no, im from ecuador |
| 09:07.31 | daniel_jackson | sry I should have said "ibunny" your from ecuador? |
| 09:07.49 | ibunny | yes i am. |
| 09:08.03 | ibunny | from ecuador. |
| 09:08.04 | daniel_jackson | I'm from the San Diego, CA |
| 09:08.07 | daniel_jackson | USA |
| 09:08.17 | daniel_jackson | California |
| 09:08.26 | tarco | I'm from Qld Australia |
| 09:08.27 | ibunny | united states of america |
| 09:08.41 | daniel_jackson | yep |
| 09:08.44 | ibunny | an aussie taco |
| 09:08.51 | tarco | use mate |
| 09:08.55 | tarco | yes |
| 09:08.55 | ibunny | well im in germany. |
| 09:09.04 | daniel_jackson | oh really? |
| 09:09.10 | ibunny | yes. |
| 09:09.12 | tarco | i did learn to speak german |
| 09:09.22 | ibunny | no taco, eat ur spinach |
| 09:09.26 | daniel_jackson | that shifts the imaginary globe in my head |
| 09:09.37 | tarco | i have finished eatinhg |
| 09:09.44 | ibunny | go brush ur teeth |
| 09:09.45 | tarco | now i am full |
| 09:09.51 | tarco | not bed time |
| 09:10.10 | daniel_jackson | now thats a "mom" sentence! lol |
| 09:10.21 | ibunny | yeah .. happens. |
| 09:10.27 | daniel_jackson | I know |
| 09:10.40 | tarco | now a whloe row of chocolate to my self |
| 09:10.43 | daniel_jackson | I know a few people that are mothers |
| 09:11.09 | ibunny | me too. |
| 09:11.17 | tarco | lolo |
| 09:11.28 | tarco | lolel |
| 09:11.51 | ibunny | hm taco you are making me hungry... |
| 09:11.52 | daniel_jackson | I'm currently going to private college, where you see a big diversity in age |
| 09:11.52 | tarco | *sigh* |
| 09:12.09 | ibunny | private college? why? |
| 09:12.20 | ibunny | go PUBLIC !! revelation!!! |
| 09:12.36 | tarco | then go eat somthing |
| 09:12.42 | tarco | lol |
| 09:12.45 | daniel_jackson | see I'm disabled, so smaller class sizes are better for me |
| 09:12.46 | ibunny | im thinking making tacos |
| 09:12.55 | ibunny | still.. |
| 09:12.59 | ibunny | GO PUBLIC! |
| 09:13.02 | Manu | ibunny ibunny |
| 09:13.13 | ibunny | that will make you stronger for teh world |
| 09:13.14 | daniel_jackson | there he is! |
| 09:13.17 | ibunny | manu manu <3<3 |
| 09:13.31 | ibunny | al fin te despiertas. |
| 09:13.38 | Manu | ESTABA JUGANDO BZFLAG |
| 09:13.43 | tarco | what the |
| 09:13.43 | daniel_jackson | what going to public school, or being disabled? |
| 09:13.44 | Manu | ops.. sry |
| 09:13.45 | ibunny | no me grites!! |
| 09:14.04 | tarco | cool other language |
| 09:14.12 | daniel_jackson | man I need to learn spanish |
| 09:14.22 | Manu | hehe :) |
| 09:14.26 | ibunny | vamonos a #hug-bunny manu manu |
| 09:14.29 | tarco | same here al add german to it |
| 09:14.53 | tarco | nine |
| 09:14.55 | tarco | nya |
| 09:14.58 | tarco | ya |
| 09:14.58 | Manu | ja |
| 09:14.59 | daniel_jackson | well I'm already learning german from playing on these german servers |
| 09:15.07 | tarco | oh |
| 09:15.16 | tarco | cool spreken the doitch |
| 09:15.26 | daniel_jackson | jaja is yesyes |
| 09:15.27 | ibunny | thats sound more like dutch |
| 09:15.32 | daniel_jackson | yep |
| 09:15.42 | tarco | ja |
| 09:15.45 | ibunny | dutch isnt deutsch |
| 09:15.47 | tarco | no is like nine |
| 09:16.01 | daniel_jackson | ich is I - I believe |
| 09:16.16 | *** join/#bzflag Birdie (n=Birdie__@d54C12302.access.telenet.be) |
| 09:16.17 | tarco | dear me |
| 09:16.23 | tarco | hopeless |
| 09:16.31 | ibunny | me shots the birdie bird |
| 09:16.35 | ibunny | theres your food! |
| 09:16.38 | daniel_jackson | oh no! |
| 09:16.50 | tarco | food where |
| 09:16.52 | ibunny | hm then i keep it next to tweety |
| 09:16.55 | Birdie | ibunny bunny bun! |
| 09:17.01 | ibunny | hi birdie pie |
| 09:17.06 | tarco | lo |
| 09:17.08 | tarco | lol |
| 09:17.20 | tarco | dang suse take forever |
| 09:17.34 | daniel_jackson | well so does redhat |
| 09:17.40 | tarco | half way through |
| 09:17.46 | tarco | yuck red hat |
| 09:17.53 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 09:18.10 | tarco | ibuny see any good movies latly |
| 09:18.14 | daniel_jackson | hey tarco they do have live cds for debian |
| 09:18.26 | tarco | knoppix |
| 09:18.34 | ibunny | taco yes, but u wouldnt like the kind films i like |
| 09:18.42 | tarco | ohok |
| 09:18.52 | tarco | they in german |
| 09:18.54 | ibunny | no. |
| 09:18.58 | tarco | englis |
| 09:19.00 | daniel_jackson | no not knoppix, thats only based off of debian |
| 09:19.00 | ibunny | some. |
| 09:19.28 | tarco | oh you seen inspector rex |
| 09:19.42 | ibunny | go watch chocolat |
| 09:19.50 | tarco | oh :P |
| 09:20.03 | tarco | :D |
| 09:20.03 | ibunny | but ull need bunch of chocolate near you. |
| 09:20.17 | daniel_jackson | I'm glad that was r-e-x, and with an "s" |
| 09:20.31 | daniel_jackson | and not with an "s" lol |
| 09:20.32 | tarco | huh |
| 09:21.10 | tarco | dang |
| 09:21.12 | daniel_jackson | come on tarco your a 20 year old guy, your mind can't be that pure |
| 09:21.14 | CBG | What? sex ? |
| 09:21.31 | daniel_jackson | whoa we got a genius! |
| 09:21.40 | CBG | sex sex sex. so what? |
| 09:21.43 | tarco | oh srry did not think of that |
| 09:21.47 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 09:21.50 | CBG | ~gender daniel_jackson |
| 09:21.52 | ibot | I heard daniel_jackson is gay. |
| 09:21.52 | ibunny | chocolat |
| 09:21.56 | ibunny | :O |
| 09:22.00 | ibunny | now i get it. |
| 09:22.00 | CBG | ~gender ibunny |
| 09:22.01 | ibot | I heard ibunny is female. |
| 09:22.06 | CBG | ~gender CBG |
| 09:22.08 | ibot | I heard CBG is male. |
| 09:22.08 | daniel_jackson | really what your source? |
| 09:22.10 | tarco | dear me |
| 09:22.21 | CBG | daniel_jackson: ibot is correct about me and ibunny |
| 09:22.27 | CBG | why would she be wrong about you? :P |
| 09:22.33 | CBG | ~gender tarco |
| 09:22.34 | ibot | I heard tarco is hermaphroditic. |
| 09:22.40 | CBG | Wow.. |
| 09:22.40 | ibunny | :O |
| 09:22.44 | tarco | whats that |
| 09:22.51 | ibunny | ur undefined |
| 09:22.52 | daniel_jackson | ok thats enough |
| 09:23.03 | ibunny | u hit from both sides of the table |
| 09:23.08 | CBG | lol |
| 09:23.09 | ibunny | well u could |
| 09:23.14 | ibunny | :P |
| 09:23.22 | CBG | tarco: male AND female :| |
| 09:23.33 | tarco | oh what ever |
| 09:23.46 | daniel_jackson | play nice kids! |
| 09:23.47 | Manu | heh |
| 09:23.49 | ibunny | ull always be a taco for me |
| 09:23.52 | ibunny | :) |
| 09:23.52 | CBG | The bot is random, don't worry. ;) |
| 09:23.58 | CBG | ~gender CBG |
| 09:24.00 | ibot | I heard CBG is not sure. |
| 09:24.08 | Manu | hihi |
| 09:24.10 | CBG | see? it has changed now... before I was male. |
| 09:24.14 | tarco | that sound nice |
| 09:24.23 | daniel_jackson | oh so your asexual? |
| 09:24.31 | Manu | CBG: yes but it says you are not sure, it takes sense ;) |
| 09:24.44 | CBG | Or maybe just unsure whether I am gay or not.. |
| 09:24.50 | ibunny | ur not gay |
| 09:24.51 | CBG | Manu: true, true |
| 09:24.56 | ibunny | now stop being gay about u being not gay. |
| 09:24.59 | CBG | ibunny: really? :P |
| 09:25.02 | CBG | ~gender CBG |
| 09:25.03 | ibot | I heard CBG is not sure. |
| 09:25.11 | CBG | bah |
| 09:25.12 | Manu | CBG: yu are only a CBG |
| 09:25.17 | Manu | you* |
| 09:25.19 | daniel_jackson | I feel sry for all the 8 year olds that may be in this room |
| 09:25.20 | CBG | ~gender CBG |
| 09:25.22 | ibot | I heard CBG is not sure. |
| 09:25.28 | tarco | lol |
| 09:25.32 | CBG | Hmm... It _is_ random... |
| 09:25.37 | CBG | It just knows me too well. |
| 09:25.44 | tarco | lol |
| 09:26.12 | CBG | ~gender Manu |
| 09:26.13 | ibot | I heard Manu is gay. |
| 09:26.24 | tarco | that is incorect |
| 09:26.28 | CBG | ~gender Manu |
| 09:26.29 | ibot | I heard Manu is sexless. |
| 09:26.39 | Manu | hey.. try it with yourself |
| 09:26.41 | CBG | Sexless, but gay... ? lol |
| 09:26.43 | daniel_jackson | I heard ibot is in love with ibot! lol |
| 09:26.49 | CBG | ~gender CBG |
| 09:26.50 | ibot | I heard CBG is not sure. |
| 09:26.55 | CBG | Grrrrr!! |
| 09:26.59 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 09:27.09 | CBG | What are the chances... |
| 09:27.20 | tarco | you suck |
| 09:27.33 | daniel_jackson | omg! .... |
| 09:27.40 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 09:27.43 | tarco | what |
| 09:27.57 | daniel_jackson | just this conversation |
| 09:28.05 | tarco | lol yes a bit weard |
| 09:28.22 | CBG | :) |
| 09:28.46 | tarco | :P |
| 09:29.25 | daniel_jackson | what ever happened to the good old days of talking about bzflag? lol |
| 09:29.29 | tarco | dj suse dislikes me |
| 09:29.41 | CBG | what's bzflag? |
| 09:29.46 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 09:29.56 | tarco | i killed it |
| 09:30.08 | daniel_jackson | I think its your machine |
| 09:30.21 | tarco | most probly is got a stuffed bios |
| 09:30.44 | daniel_jackson | stuffed? its not a turkey |
| 09:31.15 | daniel_jackson | is this your laptop? |
| 09:31.49 | tarco | no the one were were puting debin on p 2 |
| 09:31.58 | daniel_jackson | oh ok |
| 09:32.25 | daniel_jackson | I was thinking you might need to upgrade the bios |
| 09:32.35 | tarco | how |
| 09:33.06 | daniel_jackson | look up what brand and model number on the motherboard |
| 09:33.20 | tarco | asus |
| 09:33.29 | tarco | dam forgot |
| 09:33.50 | daniel_jackson | crack open the case and look |
| 09:34.56 | CBG | just crack it open dude |
| 09:35.24 | daniel_jackson | hey hey hey, non of that CBG! lol |
| 09:35.52 | tarco | asus p2b-s |
| 09:36.12 | CBG | :| |
| 09:36.31 | ibunny | :( |
| 09:36.54 | tarco | you got that dj |
| 09:38.03 | tarco | it |
| 09:38.06 | daniel_jackson | I'm looking I found the board |
| 09:38.19 | tarco | has two short termanals to flash the bios |
| 09:38.27 | daniel_jackson | but its not giving me any info |
| 09:38.42 | tarco | i found the booklet for the board |
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| 09:39.14 | tarco | weee |
| 09:39.19 | daniel_jackson | P2B-B BIOS 1011 |
| 09:39.19 | daniel_jackson | Support IDE hard disk larger than 32G bytes. |
| 09:39.19 | daniel_jackson | Revised microcode update support for Cu-Mine processors. |
| 09:39.19 | daniel_jackson | Fix Microsoft Pre-OS test failure. |
| 09:39.19 | daniel_jackson | Microcode update upgrade for PII 653, 672, and 673. 653: 00A->010; 672: 00B->00C; 673: 007->00A. |
| 09:39.20 | daniel_jackson | Fix boot failure with some boot managers installed. |
| 09:39.22 | daniel_jackson | Fix Russian Y2K test program failed. |
| 09:39.46 | tarco | lol that last line |
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| 09:40.23 | daniel_jackson | you'll have to make dos boot disk |
| 09:40.47 | tarco | to flash it |
| 09:41.11 | daniel_jackson | yep |
| 09:41.24 | daniel_jackson | heres the global download link: |
| 09:41.27 | daniel_jackson | http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/slot1/440bx/p2b-b/bx2b1011.zip |
| 09:41.47 | tarco | ok |
| 09:42.10 | tarco | got it |
| 09:42.34 | daniel_jackson | you need to put both the utility and the flash images on the disk |
| 09:43.01 | tarco | thats in the download |
| 09:43.18 | daniel_jackson | its actually only one flash image |
| 09:43.26 | daniel_jackson | but yeah its in there |
| 09:43.53 | daniel_jackson | this image is from october of 99 |
| 09:44.07 | tarco | lol old |
| 09:44.30 | daniel_jackson | thats the last time they supported it |
| 09:44.50 | tarco | lol jeeper the boards older then i thought |
| 09:45.13 | daniel_jackson | but reflashing it will make sure that you have a clean rom |
| 09:45.28 | tarco | yikes |
| 09:45.33 | tarco | i could stuff it |
| 09:46.06 | daniel_jackson | only if you use the wrong image or you reboot during the flasg |
| 09:46.10 | daniel_jackson | flash |
| 09:46.17 | daniel_jackson | process |
| 09:46.34 | tarco | ho |
| 09:46.57 | daniel_jackson | I've done it to my motherboard and to my video card without any issues |
| 09:47.17 | tarco | dan na na na da na da na can't touch this |
| 09:47.39 | daniel_jackson | you doing it is that why your singing? |
| 09:48.04 | tarco | no |
| 09:48.09 | daniel_jackson | oh ok |
| 09:48.15 | tarco | i can't touch the bios |
| 09:48.30 | daniel_jackson | what do you mean? |
| 09:48.31 | tarco | as i am instaling suse |
| 09:48.35 | daniel_jackson | oh ok |
| 09:48.53 | tarco | how does a flas work |
| 09:49.37 | daniel_jackson | see early rom chips where programmed with light |
| 09:50.01 | tarco | oh yeah |
| 09:50.21 | daniel_jackson | they had a little exposed area on the chip, where light would affect the chip |
| 09:50.22 | Manu | daniel_jackson: programmed or erased with light? |
| 09:50.38 | Manu | daniel_jackson: ;) |
| 09:50.40 | tarco | oh |
| 09:50.58 | Manu | I guess you mean the eprom they can be erased with ultraviolet light |
| 09:50.59 | daniel_jackson | no I did that to my head, thats why screwd up |
| 09:51.12 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 09:51.22 | tarco | you not screwed you |
| 09:51.26 | daniel_jackson | probbably |
| 09:51.27 | tarco | up |
| 09:51.37 | daniel_jackson | I'm kidding |
| 09:51.40 | tarco | oh |
| 09:51.51 | daniel_jackson | you mean eeprom, manu? |
| 09:51.52 | tarco | so how do they do it today |
| 09:52.20 | Manu | daniel_jackson: I'm not sure, it was years go |
| 09:52.39 | daniel_jackson | may I ask your age manu, I'm 23 |
| 09:52.49 | Manu | I'm 41 :p |
| 09:52.58 | Manu | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPROM |
| 09:53.19 | daniel_jackson | see I'm just about about done learning the trade, manu has live through the start of it |
| 09:53.22 | Manu | I mean EPROM ;) my brain still working fine |
| 09:53.58 | tarco | manu where u live i live in australia |
| 09:54.00 | daniel_jackson | I thought it was double "E" |
| 09:54.13 | Manu | E meains electric |
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| 09:54.23 | tarco | yes it eeprom |
| 09:54.25 | Manu | tarco: I'm living in Spain |
| 09:54.25 | daniel_jackson | I know |
| 09:54.33 | tarco | oh cool |
| 09:54.42 | Manu | EEPROM are electrically eraseable |
| 09:54.53 | Manu | erasable |
| 09:54.56 | Manu | not light |
| 09:54.58 | daniel_jackson | Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory |
| 09:55.09 | tarco | yes i knpw |
| 09:55.26 | tarco | thanks |
| 09:55.28 | daniel_jackson | Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory. thats EEPROM |
| 09:55.42 | Manu | daniel_jackson: rithg, buth it has nothing to do with light ;) |
| 09:56.00 | daniel_jackson | I'm not talking about eeprom |
| 09:56.06 | Manu | oh |
| 09:56.19 | daniel_jackson | I'm talking about those socketed roms |
| 09:56.21 | tarco | dum ded dum |
| 09:56.39 | Manu | daniel_jackson: you were talking about light and it's eprom not eeprom |
| 09:56.47 | daniel_jackson | whith the exposed area |
| 09:56.56 | Manu | read up |
| 09:57.11 | daniel_jackson | I know google is my friend |
| 09:57.14 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 09:57.33 | Manu | I programmed eproms before google existed :p |
| 09:57.35 | tarco | google is down |
| 09:58.05 | daniel_jackson | google is not down its your ethernet configuration |
| 09:58.17 | tarco | no tha australin on e |
| 09:58.29 | tarco | wait you may be right |
| 09:58.29 | daniel_jackson | thats why were up last night for over 7 hours |
| 09:58.40 | tarco | lol it worked before |
| 09:59.03 | tarco | *YAWN* |
| 09:59.09 | daniel_jackson | I was helping tarco install debian |
| 09:59.32 | tarco | which did not work |
| 09:59.36 | daniel_jackson | oh course I live in the USA, he lives in australia |
| 09:59.43 | tarco | i'll try it on me laptop[ |
| 09:59.55 | daniel_jackson | so it makes it hard to help one another |
| 10:00.00 | tarco | yep |
| 10:00.16 | tarco | i wihs he could fit down the line |
| 10:00.22 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 10:00.53 | daniel_jackson | I havem't figured out how to encasulate my self into packet! |
| 10:01.16 | tarco | scan your self then email then print |
| 10:01.33 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 10:02.04 | tarco | whats the printer you got |
| 10:02.25 | tarco | dj |
| 10:02.29 | daniel_jackson | a $300 HP business inkjet |
| 10:02.53 | tarco | i have a $250 Cannon i550 |
| 10:03.01 | tarco | can't get it no more |
| 10:03.18 | daniel_jackson | luckily I can network mine, without needing printserver |
| 10:03.19 | tarco | verry good photo printer |
| 10:03.31 | tarco | sigh beat me |
| 10:03.44 | daniel_jackson | I have HP scanjet for my photo pucs |
| 10:03.47 | daniel_jackson | pics |
| 10:04.01 | tarco | thats all i print |
| 10:04.05 | tarco | photoes |
| 10:04.25 | daniel_jackson | I do a little digital Photography on the side |
| 10:04.36 | tarco | what elses don't you do |
| 10:04.37 | daniel_jackson | with my digital Rebel |
| 10:04.52 | daniel_jackson | lap dances |
| 10:04.56 | daniel_jackson | lol |
| 10:04.58 | tarco | lol sick |
| 10:05.30 | tarco | why would you wan't to do that |
| 10:05.56 | daniel_jackson | you asked |
| 10:06.01 | tarco | lol |
| 10:06.37 | tarco | i have a ibm thinclient |
| 10:06.45 | daniel_jackson | nice |
| 10:07.13 | tarco | it got a linux disto for linking up to ;inux boxes |
| 10:07.46 | daniel_jackson | reword that |
| 10:08.04 | tarco | i can ues it to link up to linux boxes |
| 10:08.18 | daniel_jackson | to do remote desktop? |
| 10:08.28 | tarco | not sur if it can do that |
| 10:08.40 | daniel_jackson | whats the distro? |
| 10:08.43 | tarco | i would like to test it |
| 10:09.31 | tarco | how could i |
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| 10:10.13 | daniel_jackson | ? |
| 10:10.36 | tarco | how could i test iot |
| 10:10.46 | tarco | it |
| 10:11.14 | daniel_jackson | first off tell me the name of the distro, then I can help you better |
| 10:12.55 | tarco | it comes with it |
| 10:13.12 | daniel_jackson | what is "it"? |
| 10:14.30 | tarco | ibm thin client model 8363 exx |
| 10:14.36 | daniel_jackson | oh ok |
| 10:15.21 | daniel_jackson | I'm not sure, you may need to surf the web |
| 10:16.12 | tarco | dang |
| 10:16.30 | daniel_jackson | I'm not a brainiac |
| 10:16.37 | daniel_jackson | I just know linux |
| 10:16.39 | tarco | i thought you were |
| 10:16.43 | tarco | this is linux |
| 10:17.02 | daniel_jackson | I'm thinking its UNIX |
| 10:17.12 | daniel_jackson | probably AIX |
| 10:17.21 | tarco | most prob;y |
| 10:17.40 | daniel_jackson | thats what IBM uses |
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| 10:18.00 | tarco | ok |
| 10:18.08 | tarco | ill have a look on the flash card |
| 10:18.42 | daniel_jackson | ok well I have to head off I have to go grocery shopping tomorrow |
| 10:18.48 | tarco | lol |
| 10:18.56 | daniel_jackson | I need food! |
| 10:19.09 | daniel_jackson | and some more body soap |
| 10:19.10 | tarco | we all need food |
| 10:19.17 | tarco | oo |
| 10:19.29 | daniel_jackson | I got the suave for men |
| 10:19.33 | purple_cow | thin clients are usually embedded operating systems |
| 10:19.44 | tarco | yes |
| 10:19.53 | daniel_jackson | yes they are |
| 10:20.14 | daniel_jackson | well I have to take off cu |
| 10:20.17 | tarco | cu |
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| 10:20.24 | purple_cow | "linux" is being used more for that, but most of them are still based on small microkernels |
| 10:20.32 | tarco | i |
| 10:20.48 | tarco | so how could i get min to link to my linux box |
| 10:21.25 | purple_cow | figure out what protocol its using for the desktop, and see if you can use that protocol from the linux machine |
| 10:21.47 | tarco | i'll chec that |
| 10:24.33 | tarco | could you put an bigger kernal on it |
| 10:25.16 | tarco | purple cow |
| 10:25.27 | CBG | Bigger Kernal's can hold Bigger Dogs! |
| 10:25.30 | purple_cow | changing the OS is probably not something that's easy, assuming it's even possible |
| 10:25.52 | tarco | ok |
| 10:26.08 | tarco | bit slow at booting up |
| 10:26.42 | tarco | ica client |
| 10:26.56 | tarco | ica remote application manager |
| 10:27.03 | tarco | netscape browser |
| 10:27.15 | tarco | 3270 emulator |
| 10:27.29 | tarco | 5250 emulator |
| 10:27.36 | tarco | vt emulator |
| 10:28.09 | tarco | thats whats on it |
| 10:30.08 | tarco | purple cow |
| 10:30.25 | purple_cow | good luck :P |
| 10:30.35 | tarco | sigh |
| 10:30.59 | tarco | cbg |
| 10:31.30 | CBG | tarco: ? |
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| 10:33.21 | tarco | you have any idears |
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| 11:54.49 | ibunny | manu manu |
| 11:54.59 | Manu | ibunny ibunny |
| 11:55.08 | ibunny | :) |
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| 15:06.46 | Cobra_Fast | hallo |
| 15:07.01 | Cobra_Fast | hallo |
| 15:07.07 | Cobra_Fast | hallo |
| 15:07.11 | Cobra_Fast | hallo |
| 15:07.13 | Cobra_Fast | hallo |
| 15:07.23 | Cobra_Fast | sry :-S |
| 15:07.30 | Cobra_Fast | deutsch? englisch? |
| 15:07.50 | A_Heart_Attack | hi |
| 15:07.50 | A_Heart_Attack | :p |
| 15:07.52 | Cobra_Fast | ok, english |
| 15:07.55 | Cobra_Fast | hi |
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| 15:08.12 | Cobra_Fast | i built a map with BZEdit, but how can i play in it????? |
| 15:08.18 | A_Heart_Attack | umm |
| 15:08.21 | A_Heart_Attack | you need to host it |
| 15:08.30 | Cobra_Fast | localhost ok? |
| 15:08.40 | Cobra_Fast | but, how can i start it ?? aww |
| 15:09.01 | A_Heart_Attack | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 15:09.17 | A_Heart_Attack | is public |
| 15:09.23 | Cobra_Fast | umm |
| 15:09.27 | A_Heart_Attack | what OS are you running |
| 15:09.36 | Cobra_Fast | Windows 98se |
| 15:09.41 | A_Heart_Attack | ok |
| 15:10.03 | CBG | ~bzfs |
| 15:10.04 | ibot | i guess bzfs is the BZflag server, you need: -publicaddr server.name.com:5154 *and* -public " come play here" must be set in your bzfs.conf, *also* open the port (5154 in this case) in your firewall/router *also* see http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer, or see http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 15:10.22 | A_Heart_Attack | go to your documents, and you should see a folder called My BZFlag FIles |
| 15:10.24 | A_Heart_Attack | open that |
| 15:10.36 | A_Heart_Attack | and you should see another folder called "Worlds" |
| 15:10.46 | A_Heart_Attack | open that and put the map in there |
| 15:10.57 | Cobra_Fast | and then? |
| 15:11.14 | A_Heart_Attack | then open your BZFlag client and you should see something called "start a server" on the login screen |
| 15:11.16 | Cobra_Fast | amm, im using bzflag 2.0.8 |
| 15:11.19 | A_Heart_Attack | click that |
| 15:11.25 | Cobra_Fast | ok |
| 15:11.38 | A_Heart_Attack | and change those things to your desired settings |
| 15:11.55 | Cobra_Fast | and how can i use my map? |
| 15:12.08 | A_Heart_Attack | then where it says "map" or "world" ( i forget which ) move your arrow keys to the right or left and you should see your map name apear |
| 15:12.25 | Cobra_Fast | ahhh, thank you, i'll try |
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| 16:03.50 | Cobra_Fast | hello again |
| 16:04.07 | Cobra_Fast | amm, i was the man who wanted to play inh is own world |
| 16:04.14 | Cobra_Fast | i fixed so far to choose |
| 16:04.31 | Cobra_Fast | but if i want to connect to localhost, there only appers an error |
| 16:04.39 | Cobra_Fast | anyone abled to help? |
| 16:05.34 | *** join/#bzflag AAA_awright (n=chatzill@wsip-68-14-251-102.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 16:05.35 | Cobra_Fast | anyone there? |
| 16:05.38 | Cobra_Fast | hello? |
| 16:05.46 | AAA_awright | ? |
| 16:05.59 | Cobra_Fast | canu you help me? |
| 16:06.38 | Cobra_Fast | i made my own map, but if i want to connect to localhost after starting the server, the only thing is an error |
| 16:06.42 | Cobra_Fast | please help |
| 16:07.01 | Cobra_Fast | ok, bye |
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| 16:10.16 | stjepan | hi |
| 16:10.25 | blast007 | hello |
| 16:10.29 | stjepan | is anyone here admin/cop at BZFX? |
| 16:10.33 | stjepan | I got banned for no reason |
| 16:10.45 | stjepan | they said I am a TKer but I did not tk |
| 16:10.50 | stjepan | and they banned me :( |
| 16:11.19 | stjepan | I want to clear this with an admin/cop |
| 16:11.24 | stjepan | Manu, you? |
| 16:12.01 | stjepan | hi ruskie |
| 16:12.13 | Birdie | who banned you |
| 16:12.24 | stjepan | ohh I don't remember |
| 16:12.33 | AAA_awright | Join ajain and you can see why |
| 16:12.38 | stjepan | ok |
| 16:12.39 | AAA_awright | *again |
| 16:13.27 | AAA_awright | What server on BZFX? |
| 16:13.40 | stjepan | Birdie, AAA_awright: CannonBallGuy banned me |
| 16:13.47 | stjepan | somebody said I'm a tker |
| 16:13.48 | Birdie | lol |
| 16:13.51 | stjepan | it was few mins ago |
| 16:14.02 | Birdie | thats "cbg" on irc |
| 16:14.05 | stjepan | AAA_awright, how do you mean, what server? BZFX laser sniping |
| 16:14.09 | Birdie | register your nickname, and talk to him in pm |
| 16:14.09 | stjepan | CBG, hi |
| 16:14.13 | AAA_awright | Boxy war, ok |
| 16:14.16 | stjepan | I am registered |
| 16:14.32 | AAA_awright | BZFX is the network, Boxy War (Laser sniping) is the server |
| 16:14.32 | stjepan | but I'm not sure if he's watching irc because he's playing bzflag |
| 16:14.34 | zee3661 | abuse power.... |
| 16:14.46 | Birdie | he will be back here, just have some patience |
| 16:14.49 | AAA_awright | In theort that ban should ban you from the network, ... |
| 16:14.58 | AAA_awright | I will check up with it... |
| 16:15.09 | stjepan | please talk to him |
| 16:15.17 | AAA_awright | What is your callsign you used? |
| 16:15.30 | zee3661 | hi menotume :) |
| 16:15.31 | stjepan | stjepan |
| 16:15.43 | AAA_awright | The same, ok |
| 16:16.45 | stjepan | when I try to connect, it says: REFUSED(stjepan): invincible? wow. by CannonBallGuy |
| 16:16.57 | stjepan | invincible? I had pretty good score there... I was 2nd |
| 16:17.09 | zee3661 | :D |
| 16:17.13 | stjepan | and I didn't tk :( |
| 16:17.18 | AAA_awright | Oh. |
| 16:17.24 | stjepan | what? |
| 16:17.31 | AAA_awright | Did anyone talk to you about it? |
| 16:17.51 | stjepan | well, I didn't notice these messages... I noticed that and I read the log when I got banned :( |
| 16:18.22 | stjepan | AAA_awright, yes, somebody said I'm a tker, then cbg said to me to stop tking and then banned me |
| 16:18.27 | CBG | Hi stjepan. |
| 16:18.32 | stjepan | CBG, hi |
| 16:18.36 | stjepan | why did you ban me? |
| 16:18.56 | CBG | You did't die on a number of occassions. |
| 16:19.07 | stjepan | how do you mean? lag? |
| 16:19.10 | CBG | (accounting for lag...) |
| 16:19.14 | stjepan | I don't lag |
| 16:19.21 | zee3661 | he accusing you cheat |
| 16:19.30 | stjepan | I am not cheating |
| 16:19.37 | zee3661 | he think so |
| 16:20.01 | blast007 | stjepan: everybody lags, so don't say "I don't lag" |
| 16:20.04 | blast007 | ;) |
| 16:20.04 | stjepan | and I always died when I had to... maybe someone got sick of me so he said I'm a cheater? |
| 16:20.09 | stjepan | true :) |
| 16:20.28 | CBG | You did not die on several occasions when _I_ shot you. |
| 16:20.38 | CBG | And I was accounting for you "non-existant" lag. |
| 16:20.41 | stjepan | CBG, ok... you don't believe me .... can you check somehow if I'm cheating? |
| 16:20.53 | CBG | It's a 5 hour ban, it is usually a lot more for a (suspected) cheater. |
| 16:21.06 | stjepan | uhh.... I don't know... maybe a bug in bzflag :| |
| 16:21.13 | stjepan | CBG, pls can you unban me? |
| 16:21.23 | blast007 | stjepan: just wait 5 hours |
| 16:21.28 | stjepan | too much :D |
| 16:21.40 | blast007 | there are 200 servers, got find another one for a while |
| 16:21.41 | stjepan | CBG, when was that when you "killed" me? |
| 16:21.43 | blast007 | go* |
| 16:21.49 | CBG | Get a girlfriend. |
| 16:21.50 | stjepan | did I have CL then? |
| 16:22.06 | stjepan | I always refused girlfriends and I'm not going to have one |
| 16:22.09 | CBG | There were at least 3 occassions, stjepan. |
| 16:22.13 | zee3661 | play another server who admins dont abuse power ;) |
| 16:22.16 | CBG | So get a boyfriend. |
| 16:22.20 | CBG | Whatever... |
| 16:22.20 | stjepan | nahh |
| 16:22.39 | blast007 | zee3661: I don't call a 5 hour ban on someone who seemed to be using a god mode client "abuse" |
| 16:22.48 | *** part/#bzflag menotume (n=George@71.225.151.82) |
| 16:22.59 | stjepan | CBG, ok can you unban me now so I can check the lag? I'll also run at your face so you can kill me and so that we can clear this |
| 16:23.09 | CBG | Not god mode, just an invincible one. :/ |
| 16:23.14 | blast007 | stjepan: that won't clear anything up |
| 16:23.19 | CBG | Maybe only partially invincible. |
| 16:23.21 | blast007 | CBG: god mode == invincible |
| 16:23.22 | stjepan | blast007, u sure? |
| 16:23.26 | blast007 | could be a smaller tank size |
| 16:23.26 | zee3661 | lol |
| 16:23.28 | stjepan | we could maybe find a bug.... |
| 16:23.36 | CBG | blast007: exactly |
| 16:23.39 | stjepan | smaller tank? u want to say I'm cheating? |
| 16:23.42 | blast007 | stjepan: or maybe if you really WERE using a modified client, you'll just stop using it |
| 16:23.44 | CBG | or he might be invincible to some shot types |
| 16:23.49 | zee3661 | yes they are :) |
| 16:23.57 | stjepan | I did NOT use a modified client |
| 16:24.10 | CBG | blast007: to me, god mode implies flying, better bullets, invisible, etc |
| 16:24.15 | CBG | not just "not able to die" |
| 16:24.21 | blast007 | god mode to me is just not dying |
| 16:24.34 | stjepan | huh I don't have god mode |
| 16:24.38 | zee3661 | go to another server stjepan |
| 16:24.43 | stjepan | :( |
| 16:24.54 | zee3661 | he cant hit you |
| 16:24.59 | stjepan | CBG, can you unban me and if this will happen again, ban me again... ok? |
| 16:25.06 | Manu | stjepan: yes I am :) |
| 16:25.12 | stjepan | hi Manu |
| 16:25.22 | stjepan | Manu, did you invent anticheat system? |
| 16:25.35 | Manu | what anticheat? |
| 16:25.41 | CBG | stjepan: I don''t have the time or patience for this. You should count yourself very lucky you only got 5 hours. |
| 16:25.41 | stjepan | CBG and blast007 don't believe me I'm not cheating |
| 16:25.52 | zee3661 | lol |
| 16:25.58 | blast007 | I am not necessarily saying that you were |
| 16:26.00 | blast007 | I was not there |
| 16:26.02 | Manu | well I never saw you cheating |
| 16:26.02 | stjepan | Manu, I read at bzflag forums that you made anticheat stuff |
| 16:26.16 | CBG | I am convinced I saw you cheating and I am in a very bad mood. |
| 16:26.20 | Manu | stjepan: yes I have writen some anticheats |
| 16:26.21 | blast007 | but if you were indeed cheating, lifting the ban would just make you more fareful |
| 16:26.25 | blast007 | careful* |
| 16:26.44 | stjepan | CBG, don't you have some trusted stuff for cheat detecting? |
| 16:26.49 | zee3661 | cbg becuase you are in bad mood you banned him ? |
| 16:26.58 | stjepan | I think so |
| 16:26.58 | blast007 | stjepan: the cheat detection code in bzflag is a total joke |
| 16:27.11 | Manu | blast007: not really :p |
| 16:27.17 | blast007 | Manu: yes, it is |
| 16:27.21 | zee3661 | because YOU cant hit him ? |
| 16:27.26 | Manu | blast007: only some detections |
| 16:27.31 | stjepan | it was possible to hit me |
| 16:27.33 | blast007 | Manu: most all of them :) |
| 16:27.37 | stjepan | and I died |
| 16:27.45 | CBG | zee3661: no, not at all |
| 16:27.46 | Manu | blast007: others are working fine, but of course all the cheats can't be detected |
| 16:27.53 | CBG | I am saying he is LUCKY it was ONLY 5 hours. |
| 16:27.59 | CBG | That could have been a permanent ban. |
| 16:28.01 | Manu | blast007: patches welcome ;) |
| 16:28.21 | blast007 | Manu: heh |
| 16:28.26 | Manu | stjepan: have you been banned, where= |
| 16:28.29 | stjepan | CBG, nice... next time you'll ban somebody who is not cheating nor tking too |
| 16:28.40 | stjepan | Manu, bzfx laser sniping - box war |
| 16:29.04 | Manu | well, there are lots of servers, don't cry |
| 16:29.14 | stjepan | 2 castles is down.... |
| 16:29.44 | Manu | stjepan: wait.. |
| 16:29.53 | stjepan | and nobody plays there... :) |
| 16:30.10 | blast007 | stjepan: if you just sit in a server for a while, it will attract players |
| 16:30.15 | blast007 | I do that with my own server |
| 16:30.18 | Manu | stjepan: up again |
| 16:30.34 | stjepan | blast007, waiting is too boring |
| 16:30.49 | blast007 | stjepan: yeah, I see you have absolutly no patience |
| 16:31.05 | stjepan | time's not cheap : |
| 16:31.06 | stjepan | :P |
| 16:31.07 | blast007 | 5 hours is too long....waiting for players is too boring...etc |
| 16:31.11 | blast007 | it's a game |
| 16:31.42 | stjepan | anyway, what cbg did is ......... |
| 16:31.55 | CBG | it was generous, stop whining. |
| 16:32.03 | CBG | I have a right mind to extend your ban to 5 days. |
| 16:32.13 | stjepan | I know |
| 16:32.28 | stjepan | generous? |
| 16:32.40 | stjepan | I think you're just in a bad mood... |
| 16:32.45 | stjepan | but ok bye |
| 16:32.47 | blast007 | ... |
| 16:32.53 | stjepan | thanks for banning me :) |
| 16:33.15 | CBG | Anytime. |
| 16:33.27 | CBG | Just come back and cheat again. |
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| 16:33.44 | stjepan | oh god why nobody believes me ? :( |
| 16:34.19 | stjepan | this is what's sad... not 5 hrs |
| 16:34.48 | blast007 | stjepan: a real cheater would have been banned forever |
| 16:34.55 | blast007 | you are just a possible cheater |
| 16:35.04 | stjepan | :( |
| 16:35.06 | blast007 | based on the situation that was occuring |
| 16:35.09 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v DTRemenak|RDP] by ChanServ |
| 16:35.41 | blast007 | in another 4 and a half hours, you'll have the ability to prove that you were not cheating |
| 16:35.50 | stjepan | blast007, the situation cbg didn't fully understand, see, notice, anything |
| 16:35.56 | Birdie | how high was your lag |
| 16:36.01 | stjepan | blast007, I can't prove |
| 16:36.11 | blast007 | Birdie: he "didn't have any lag" ;) |
| 16:36.12 | stjepan | Birdie, I don't know., but I have never high lag |
| 16:36.24 | stjepan | s/have never/never have |
| 16:38.05 | CBG | Look, you should have died on at least 3 occassions when I shot you. You did not. To me, that is cheating. Argueing is making me angry and I really want to extend your ban to 5 days. If you shut up, you can play again in 4.5 hours. |
| 16:38.29 | blast007 | I think he shut up now ;) |
| 16:38.38 | CBG | Seems so. |
| 16:45.12 | hardwire | meh |
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| 16:56.43 | hardwire | hmm |
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| 19:10.46 | hardwire | meh |
| 19:10.50 | hardwire | hmmphmp |
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| 20:23.44 | Thumper_ | ~bzfslist |
| 20:25.09 | Thumper_ | ~bzflist |
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| 21:40.49 | BinarySpike | Can you monitor bzflag servers anonymously? aka watch the stats (player scores) to see who's winning and stuff? without an obs? |
| 21:42.14 | ts | yes |
| 21:43.12 | ts | Look at how the stats page does |
| 21:46.11 | BinarySpike | thanks :) |
| 22:05.53 | hardwire | that was a fun game :) |
| 22:06.02 | hardwire | laser ctf something something |
| 22:06.04 | hardwire | I really sucked |
| 22:06.10 | hardwire | my trackball is uber sensitivo |
| 22:06.19 | hardwire | need a way to slow keyboard and mouse movements |
| 22:08.29 | CBG | OS Preferences should let you do that.. |
| 22:09.19 | spldart | Yeah |
| 22:09.47 | spldart | And no excuses! |
| 22:09.52 | spldart | ;~) |
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| 22:55.16 | a_meteorite | ~logs |
| 22:55.17 | ibot | logs is, like, http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
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| 23:34.15 | Flash | if I want to compile bzflag for myself, what would I need to do? |
| 23:34.29 | a_meteorite | Windows, Linux, or Mac? |
| 23:34.33 | Flash | Mac |
| 23:34.41 | a_meteorite | Ah, got the developer tools? |
| 23:34.44 | Flash | yes |
| 23:35.02 | a_meteorite | Any Terminal experience? |
| 23:35.04 | Flash | yes |
| 23:35.08 | Flash | guru status |
| 23:35.08 | a_meteorite | k |
| 23:35.10 | a_meteorite | ~cvs |
| 23:35.15 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, cvs is concurrent versions systems. more info here http://www.cvshome.org/. The asterisk CVS is no more. Please see svn. |
| 23:35.31 | Flash | cvs is my weakest point |
| 23:35.38 | a_meteorite | OK, do this: |
| 23:35.44 | a_meteorite | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag login |
| 23:35.48 | Flash | done |
| 23:35.49 | a_meteorite | Just hit enter for the password. |
| 23:35.54 | a_meteorite | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
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| 23:36.29 | Flash | cvs checkout: cannot find password |
| 23:36.29 | Flash | cvs [checkout aborted]: use "cvs login" to log in first |
| 23:36.42 | a_meteorite | Try the login line one more time... |
| 23:38.25 | Flash | nope |
| 23:38.25 | Flash | my ~/.cvspass files has an entry in it |
| 23:38.25 | Flash | :pserver:anonymous@bzflag.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag A |
| 23:38.25 | Flash | looks reasonable to me |
| 23:38.39 | a_meteorite | K, did it checkout? |
| 23:38.55 | Flash | nope |
| 23:39.02 | Flash | same error |
| 23:39.15 | a_meteorite | hmmm |
| 23:39.26 | a_meteorite | Let me try checking out, hold on. |
| 23:40.14 | a_meteorite | Works fine here. Must be a cvs issue... |
| 23:41.29 | Flash | can you look at your .cvspass file? is it similar? |
| 23:41.45 | Flash | is there an environment variable I need to set? |
| 23:41.55 | a_meteorite | Oh, yes, there is. |
| 23:42.30 | a_meteorite | Let me find it, hold on.. |
| 23:43.14 | a_meteorite | BTW, mine is: "/1 :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:2401/cvsroot/bzflag A" |
| 23:43.42 | Flash | hmmm. is the /1 an alias for CVS? |
| 23:43.57 | a_meteorite | No, that's ~/.cvspass |
| 23:44.15 | Flash | surely you don't type these CVS commands from scratch all the time.... |
| 23:44.20 | Flash | some favorite scripts? |
| 23:44.33 | a_meteorite | nope, once you get it you can check out and cvs update -dP |
| 23:44.40 | a_meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:45.04 | Flash | I suppose I could edit .cvspass to look like yours |
| 23:45.09 | a_meteorite | nvm, the variable you would have to set is for dev access :) |
| 23:48.33 | Flash | got it |
| 23:48.44 | Flash | the host for login and co didn't match |
| 23:48.45 | a_meteorite | ah, now you should have a bzflag folder... |
| 23:48.51 | a_meteorite | :\ |
| 23:49.02 | a_meteorite | Just change it then.. |
| 23:49.15 | Flash | checking out madly.... |
| 23:49.29 | Flash | yep. got a folder |
| 23:50.00 | a_meteorite | ok, cd bzflag |
| 23:50.06 | a_meteorite | ./autogen.sh |
| 23:50.43 | a_meteorite | Oh, btw, do you want a BZFlag application (like Xcode) or is a simple command-line application fine? |
| 23:50.53 | Flash | either one is fine |
| 23:51.02 | a_meteorite | k |
| 23:51.29 | Flash | although I'm a master developer, I haven't built anything for the Mac yet ;-) |
| 23:52.01 | a_meteorite | Now after autogen.sh ... (this is what I use to get plugins as well - if you have dual-core add --enable-threads) ./configure --enable-shared --enable-plugins |
| 23:52.24 | Flash | sigh. no dual-core. Still on my G4 |
| 23:52.28 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 23:52.59 | Gnurdux | wait bzflag supports multi?threading |
| 23:53.05 | Gnurdux | lol wrong place for ? |
| 23:53.23 | a_meteorite | I think Jeff said it was server only, but I'm quite sure the client has support |
| 23:53.35 | a_meteorite | I would have to check where I did that source mod to make --enable-plugins work... |
| 23:54.08 | Gnurdux | uh oh |
| 23:54.09 | Flash | I want to compile in the collision-avoidance hack checker |
| 23:54.18 | Gnurdux | a threaded server could seriously f*** up plugins |
| 23:54.19 | a_meteorite | the what? |
| 23:54.47 | Gnurdux | a_meteorite: something to autokick people who drive through buildings it sounds like |
| 23:54.52 | Flash | JBDiGriz was telling me that there is code in the client to detect cheaters |
| 23:55.02 | Flash | (shots that should hit and don't) |
| 23:55.10 | a_meteorite | I don't know the switch or what it is |
| 23:57.31 | Gnurdux | Flash, thats a really stupid fix |
| 23:57.43 | Gnurdux | it only checks if the client ends the shot but doesnt die |
| 23:57.54 | Gnurdux | and its easy to get around it |
| 23:58.12 | Gnurdux | hopefully 2.2 will have a better design |
| 23:58.42 | Flash | even if it's easy to get around, isn't it worth it to find those who haven't? |