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| 00:16.00 | spldart | Jeff.. If I want to apply a texture to a specific polygon but don't want it 'tile' over and over but spread to fill the polygon do I have that ability with your proggy? |
| 00:17.39 | spldart | To anyone> Couple ideas I'm kicking around for a map... Horror theme... But the idea of using textures that may be copyright infringing (aliens, freddy krueger, jason, pinhead) is worrying me and the other.. Possibly a map where the floor is a blackjack table and there are chips and cards.. but also dice, roulette wheel etc... like casino stuff |
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| 00:18.04 | JeffM2501 | open the UV editor, select the face |
| 00:18.12 | JeffM2501 | and scale the UVs untill it dosn't repeat |
| 00:18.37 | spldart | Kewl |
| 00:18.48 | JeffM2501 | you can also use the U and V shift function to move it around so it ligns up right |
| 00:18.52 | JeffM2501 | or flip and rotate |
| 00:19.05 | JeffM2501 | U is the Hoizontal axis of the image, V is the Vertical |
| 00:23.37 | JeffM2501 | Damn, I spent like the entire day doing like real work. |
| 00:24.10 | Inferno | real work, as in hard work? |
| 00:24.40 | Inferno | work can be fun and easy sometimes you know |
| 00:24.54 | JeffM2501 | just trig |
| 00:25.09 | Inferno | ~trig |
| 00:25.33 | JeffM2501 | trigonometry |
| 00:25.44 | Inferno | you did that for work... |
| 00:25.49 | Inferno | use a calculator |
| 00:26.03 | JeffM2501 | umm, no no |
| 00:26.09 | JeffM2501 | not solving for actual values |
| 00:26.31 | JeffM2501 | coding the trig to compute the right values based on the input paths |
| 00:27.05 | Inferno | oh, sounds like something I'd like to do |
| 00:27.09 | Inferno | I like programming math |
| 00:27.17 | Inferno | is it for $? |
| 00:27.25 | JeffM2501 | umm yeah |
| 00:27.43 | JeffM2501 | you don't actualy "program" the math, C has functions for all the basic math |
| 00:28.22 | Inferno | yeh, I just like thinking mathematicly, using the functions |
| 00:28.36 | JeffM2501 | you do much 3d math? |
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| 00:28.40 | Inferno | yeh... |
| 00:28.58 | JeffM2501 | fun |
| 00:29.05 | Gnurdux | hi Inferno |
| 00:29.06 | Inferno | Blender, bzw mapping, and reprogramming bzfs are afew things I use it on |
| 00:29.08 | Inferno | hey |
| 00:29.19 | Gnurdux | hi a_temp_dist: any more plugins ya need/ |
| 00:29.26 | JeffM2501 | maping isn't realy math intensive ;) |
| 00:29.33 | a_temp_dist | not right now, keep asking tho! |
| 00:29.39 | Gnurdux | heg |
| 00:29.59 | Gnurdux | are you actually using the wg one |
| 00:30.02 | a_temp_dist | I'll try and come up with something to relieve your boredom... |
| 00:30.19 | Inferno | yeh, unless you are making a map written on graph paper...trig intensive! |
| 00:30.19 | CBG | Gnurdux: #KAS :) |
| 00:30.28 | a_temp_dist | yes, but on a map that gets no traffic - (like most of them running) |
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| 01:19.24 | spldart | That sounds... I dunno... perverse |
| 01:23.48 | ruskie | bah can't sleep it seems... |
| 01:35.47 | spldart | :( |
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| 02:49.11 | Inferno | hey, does the client know what flagtype a flag is that is on the map...unused |
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| 04:00.14 | BinarySpike | Hey cools, Jeff's birthday :) |
| 04:07.41 | spldart | And he has 2 hours and 52 someodd minutes left of it :~D |
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| 09:33.12 | brlcad | *yawn* |
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| 12:49.21 | Rawk | Does anyone know what my problem could be here? When I join a server on bzflag, I can't shoot anyone (I can see my shots but they can't) I can only shoot myself or flatten other people. |
| 12:53.17 | Rawk | anyone around? |
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| 13:06.42 | PuMpErNiCkLe | There was a bug like that involving early versions of GCC4, but it's been fixed for months. |
| 13:18.38 | Rawk | oh, my brother just updated to gcc4 |
| 13:20.05 | Rawk | should bzflag 2.0.8 work corectly with gcc4? |
| 13:23.50 | Rawk | the version of gcc I have is 4.1.1:4.1 |
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| 15:28.29 | *** topic/#bzflag by DTRemenak -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is 2.1 UNSTABLE, use for new commits |
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| 18:00.16 | JeffM2501 | 0.0. |
| 18:02.10 | blast007 | Error: Malformed IPv4 address |
| 18:04.59 | brlcad | woo hoo, got stuff compiling at working on the VAX :) |
| 18:05.20 | Chestal | nothing sucks like a VAX |
| 18:05.23 | brlcad | screw big endian and little endian, all hail middle endian |
| 18:06.10 | ToughShooter | middle endian? :o |
| 18:06.15 | Chestal | brlcad: using one of these http://www.openbsd.org/images/vax.jpg ? |
| 18:06.26 | JeffM2501 | 1342 |
| 18:06.29 | brlcad | hehe |
| 18:06.29 | JeffM2501 | like that? |
| 18:07.00 | JeffM2501 | Chestal, that picture sucks |
| 18:07.30 | Chestal | hmm, anyone ever used Ultimate++ http://upp.sourceforge.net/ ? |
| 18:08.15 | brlcad | JeffM2501: actually i'm thinking of the PDP-11 |
| 18:08.33 | brlcad | the vax was one of the first little endian iirc, though with non-ieee float |
| 18:08.41 | brlcad | pdp was 4312 iirc |
| 18:09.35 | brlcad | er, 3412 |
| 18:11.28 | brlcad | basically little endian with swapped words (LSB first, LSW first) |
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| 18:58.14 | Skeeve | I forgot where the logs are and can't remember how to ask ibot for them. Can someone please help me? |
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| 18:59.56 | CBG | ~logs |
| 18:59.57 | ibot | from memory, logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 19:00.06 | CBG | Skeeve: ;) hard to remember, I know. :P |
| 19:00.59 | Skeeve | Guess what "logs" is what I asked ibot (/msg) but the answer was different |
| 19:01.22 | CBG | heh |
| 19:01.26 | Skeeve | But I read I just this moment and found that it was different but the info was tere too |
| 19:03.50 | JeffM2501 | it is channel dependent |
| 19:03.57 | JeffM2501 | ibot is in like 120 channels |
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| 19:56.58 | Skeeve | Jeff, are u ytill around? |
| 19:59.03 | Skeeve | or is trepan around? |
| 20:01.38 | blast007 | Skeeve: whatcha need? :) |
| 20:02.00 | Skeeve | I'm wondering about bzIdentifier |
| 20:02.09 | Skeeve | It's defined as std::string |
| 20:02.18 | Skeeve | But I assume there is some length limit |
| 20:02.34 | Skeeve | But I can't find anything about it |
| 20:03.00 | blast007 | that's their id number from bzbb? |
| 20:03.34 | Skeeve | I don't know. I just know that it should be a unique ID, so I *think* it's the id from bzbb |
| 20:04.17 | Skeeve | I wanted to do what I talked about 3 days ago: Adding the bzIdentifier to the information the listservres send |
| 20:04.38 | Skeeve | But this will be difficult if |
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| 20:04.47 | blast007 | it's already in the listserver |
| 20:04.49 | Skeeve | there is no maximum allowed length |
| 20:05.00 | Skeeve | But it doesn't send the info |
| 20:05.10 | blast007 | when the server validates your token, the server receives the bzid |
| 20:05.16 | blast007 | and stores it |
| 20:05.16 | Skeeve | So statistik servers like strayer's can't use the info |
| 20:05.27 | blast007 | that's nothing to do with the listserver then |
| 20:05.34 | Skeeve | Ok. |
| 20:05.38 | blast007 | that's to do with adding a query message in bzfs |
| 20:05.56 | Skeeve | So I mixed up some words ;-) |
| 20:06.15 | Skeeve | I want to add it to the message the statistik servers receive |
| 20:06.39 | Skeeve | So that they can make a difference between authenticated and non authenticated users |
| 20:09.21 | Skeeve | I think I won't succeed today... tonight :-( |
| 20:10.06 | blast007 | heck, you could even include their lag/jitter/loss info in that new message :) |
| 20:10.27 | blast007 | are you doing this for 2.0, or 2.1? |
| 20:10.35 | Skeeve | Do you think that info is worth it? |
| 20:10.38 | Skeeve | 2.1 |
| 20:10.48 | blast007 | oh, 2.1 you don't even need a new message then |
| 20:10.56 | blast007 | just tack it onto the current messages |
| 20:11.01 | Skeeve | Yes. But I can't append a string |
| 20:11.11 | blast007 | there is a packing function for std strings |
| 20:11.20 | Skeeve | Hmmm... |
| 20:11.32 | blast007 | it includes a length counter at the start, so the code knows how much to read |
| 20:11.51 | blast007 | check out the nboPack* and nboUnpack* functions |
| 20:11.55 | Skeeve | If I read the misc/bzquery.pl correct, it's working with a fixed length for playerinfos |
| 20:12.29 | blast007 | there are some fixed length stuff, yes |
| 20:12.34 | blast007 | but it doesn't HAVE to be |
| 20:12.40 | Skeeve | This won't work anymore then |
| 20:12.49 | blast007 | forget about the query scripts |
| 20:12.53 | blast007 | they don't work with 2.1 anyway |
| 20:13.00 | blast007 | they will have to be updated |
| 20:13.07 | Skeeve | There are scripts in the 2.1 source |
| 20:13.12 | blast007 | right |
| 20:13.17 | blast007 | that doesn't mean they work for 2.1 |
| 20:13.25 | Skeeve | but you tell me they are all out of date? |
| 20:13.27 | blast007 | we don't take them out after we're done with 2.1 |
| 20:13.29 | blast007 | er |
| 20:13.30 | blast007 | 2.0 |
| 20:13.33 | blast007 | yes |
| 20:13.45 | blast007 | we don't update them until the protocol is stable |
| 20:13.58 | Skeeve | So I simply append the info |
| 20:14.00 | blast007 | right now it doesn't pay to update them |
| 20:14.02 | blast007 | yup |
| 20:14.07 | Skeeve | Question is: Where is the info read |
| 20:14.13 | Skeeve | I think I have to update that too |
| 20:14.18 | blast007 | you will |
| 20:14.24 | blast007 | the clients read that |
| 20:14.45 | blast007 | they all use the same constants for the Msg* stuff |
| 20:14.53 | Skeeve | Okay. |
| 20:15.00 | blast007 | so if you update MsgSomething in bzfs, you update MsgSomething in bzflag and bzadmin |
| 20:15.03 | Skeeve | Next question: If I want to test it |
| 20:15.09 | Skeeve | How can I do that |
| 20:15.18 | blast007 | with a debugger ;) |
| 20:15.35 | Skeeve | I guess I have to configure my server to use a authentication server |
| 20:15.36 | blast007 | or some people add extra output to their code to show that values exist |
| 20:15.46 | blast007 | remember, the list server doesn't change |
| 20:15.58 | blast007 | the list server does not even check who is online |
| 20:16.00 | Skeeve | debugging or debug output to cerr cout isn't the problem |
| 20:16.12 | blast007 | it just checks that it can reach your server, and that it is actually bzfs |
| 20:16.18 | Skeeve | I mean: I start a server here |
| 20:16.28 | Skeeve | I log in with a local cleint |
| 20:16.38 | blast007 | right |
| 20:16.42 | Skeeve | and then I have to authenticat. |
| 20:16.54 | blast007 | yes, to my.bzflag.org |
| 20:16.56 | Skeeve | But what do I have to configure for this to work |
| 20:17.01 | blast007 | the server |
| 20:17.08 | Skeeve | I never set up a real server |
| 20:17.23 | blast007 | you don't have to get much put into it |
| 20:17.25 | Skeeve | Just started it from commandline or from the gui |
| 20:17.35 | blast007 | you just need the server to be on the list, so you can get auth |
| 20:17.52 | blast007 | so run a basic public server |
| 20:18.22 | Skeeve | do I have to ask someone to be on the list? |
| 20:18.28 | blast007 | nope |
| 20:18.48 | blast007 | you just have to configure your server and internet connection properly |
| 20:19.09 | blast007 | but we'll cross that bridge when you get the code to a testable position ;) |
| 20:20.11 | JeffM2501 | yes the BZID is the bzbb user number |
| 20:35.13 | Skeeve | And a) does it have a length limit (would be good for statistik servers) and b) do we want a length limt? |
| 20:35.40 | Skeeve | Or shall I simply rely on the function blast told me of |
| 20:35.41 | Skeeve | ? |
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| 20:54.41 | DTRemenak | it does not have a limit, but it is an ordinary number |
| 20:55.25 | DTRemenak | use 7 digits, and if more than 10 million people want to play, we will have to change ;) |
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| 21:21.52 | Skeeve | Okay, DT. The problem simply is: It's defined as std::string. If we keep it as a string, it's okay for me, but this would make reading the blocks a bit more complicate than it was before |
| 21:22.28 | Skeeve | I don't apply some limit that has no okay from the real developers |
| 21:23.01 | Skeeve | BTW, DTRemenak... Did you test the patch? ;-) The /silence patch I mean |
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| 21:23.08 | orange_away | oh man, lilo was always so helpful |
| 21:23.30 | ruskie | helpful but annoying... may he rest in peace |
| 21:23.39 | inchworm | best wishes to the family |
| 21:23.40 | Skeeve | I'm talking and talking and DT's already gone |
| 21:23.57 | Skeeve | lilo? |
| 21:34.18 | orange_away | 17:18:40 [freenode] -christel(i=christel@freenode/staff/gentoo.christel)- [Global Notice] On the 12th September Rob Levin, known to many as Freenode's lilo, was hit by a |
| 21:34.22 | orange_away | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:55.05 | ToughShooter | Jikes, he helped me one time. He was very nice. :( |
| 21:55.20 | ruskie | yup |
| 21:55.28 | CBG | Who? |
| 21:56.57 | ruskie | lilo |
| 21:57.00 | ruskie | passed away |
| 21:57.26 | CBG | Ah, he was a freenode admin, right? |
| 21:57.32 | ruskie | the head guy |
| 21:57.42 | CBG | :( R.I.P |
| 21:59.26 | blast007 | lilo |
| 21:59.31 | blast007 | er |
| 21:59.35 | blast007 | didn't scroll down :/ |
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| 22:10.12 | Pimpinella | he actually was the founder of freenode |
| 22:12.56 | ruskie | yup |
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