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| 01:50.47 | mistform | anyone here use a Joystick with BZFlag? |
| 01:51.08 | Matt123 | i do sometimes |
| 01:51.29 | mistform | I have a Logitec Attack3 (USB) and I have all of the buttons working, but movement is difficult |
| 01:51.40 | mistform | I can only turn left |
| 01:51.56 | mistform | and I can move backwards and forwards, but it's by moving the joystick left and right |
| 01:53.03 | Matt123 | ive never had any problems, just make sure you have the joystick or whatever enabled |
| 01:53.36 | mistform | yeah, I specified all of the keys to the joystick |
| 01:53.53 | mistform | if you want, you can join a game and I'll show you |
| 01:54.02 | Matt123 | i dont think that will help |
| 01:54.24 | Matt123 | i dont know |
| 01:54.41 | Matt123 | have you tried upgrading the driver for it? |
| 01:54.49 | mistform | I don't have a driver.... |
| 01:54.53 | mistform | couldn't find one |
| 01:54.58 | mistform | i'm on Ubuntu |
| 01:55.04 | Matt123 | oh |
| 01:55.09 | Matt123 | im windows\ |
| 01:55.23 | Matt123 | so i dont know |
| 01:55.24 | Matt123 | sorry |
| 01:57.13 | mistform | at least you tried to help, thanks anyways |
| 02:06.25 | orchid | mistform: did you try jscalibrator? |
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| 02:33.31 | mistform | ? |
| 02:33.42 | mistform | no, how do I use jscalibrator? |
| 02:35.30 | orchid | it's just a tool to calibrate your JS |
| 02:36.21 | orchid | there's one called "joystick" also, at least theyre in Debian so ubuntu should have them |
| 02:36.38 | orchid | try one of those and then try bzflag again |
| 02:36.44 | findlay | so I finally reinstalled bzflag and to my delight the default auto packet scrambling for AMD64 was disabled, but now bzflag is quite crashy |
| 02:37.27 | findlay | as in crashes X randomly and frequently |
| 03:01.37 | DTRemenak_Srv | mistform: cycle through the axis settings |
| 03:01.41 | DTRemenak_Srv | in bzflag |
| 03:01.46 | DTRemenak_Srv | it lies sometimes |
| 03:01.56 | DTRemenak_Srv | set X to 0 and Y to 1 |
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| 03:21.46 | mistform | ok.. |
| 03:21.49 | mistform | ty |
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| 08:57.40 | orthox | hello, as usual, again, i'm in need of assistance. |
| 08:57.59 | orthox | does anyone have experience with the TimeLimit plugin on linux? |
| 08:58.43 | Mr_Molez | yup |
| 08:59.13 | orthox | fantastic. |
| 08:59.20 | orthox | i'm getting the following error: |
| 08:59.52 | orthox | Plugin:Timelimit found but does not contain bz_Load method, error bzfs: undefined symbol: bz_load |
| 09:00.08 | Mr_Molez | what source are you complining it with ? |
| 09:00.20 | orthox | 2.0.8 (not from CVS |
| 09:00.22 | orthox | ) |
| 09:01.00 | Mr_Molez | hmm where did you find the plugin |
| 09:01.10 | orthox | the forum. version 1.0.3 |
| 09:01.25 | Mr_Molez | If you use the 2.0.8 version or a not really recent |
| 09:01.25 | Mr_Molez | 2.0.9 cvs version it is possible that certain bz api |
| 09:01.25 | Mr_Molez | methods are not available. Therefore you should patch |
| 09:01.26 | Mr_Molez | your bzflag source code first. |
| 09:01.31 | Mr_Molez | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.58 | orthox | patch -p0 < TimeLimitPlugin-0.1.patch.txt |
| 09:02.12 | orthox | ran that in the bzflag root directory. it patched two files. |
| 09:02.34 | Mr_Molez | do make clean and do a clean compile |
| 09:02.57 | orthox | think i did that, but will try again. |
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| 09:03.59 | orthox | running now: make clean; make; make install |
| 09:04.04 | Mr_Molez | k :) |
| 09:04.27 | orthox | think i could have skipped the make, but its habit now |
| 09:05.21 | orthox | one thing that confused me is the compilation only generates a .so file where the other plugins generate three files that go into /usr/local/lib |
| 09:05.47 | Mr_Molez | the .so is the actual plugin |
| 09:06.35 | orthox | /usr/local/lib contains .la and .a files for every other plugin (that came bundled with the bfzlag source) |
| 09:06.43 | orthox | in addition to the .so |
| 09:07.09 | Mr_Molez | timelimit didn't come with the source :P |
| 09:07.26 | orthox | not sure if thats a problem. (i've always been an interpreted language guy. c and c++ are greek to me. |
| 09:07.39 | orthox | i love screen |
| 09:08.10 | orthox | i do know shared object files are more annoying than statically linked |
| 09:08.56 | Mr_Molez | all you should need is the .so file, you should be able to give that so to other people and it should work for them |
| 09:09.30 | orthox | heh, i should have asked someone else for it then. i always have to do things the hard way. |
| 09:09.58 | Mr_Molez | i have it but mine is a different version |
| 09:10.07 | orthox | newer? |
| 09:10.19 | Mr_Molez | hmm nah just custom |
| 09:10.24 | orthox | ah |
| 09:10.44 | orthox | you run matches? |
| 09:10.58 | Mr_Molez | yeh the timelimit plugin was originally developed for the league i run |
| 09:11.19 | orthox | which league? |
| 09:11.23 | Mr_Molez | openleague |
| 09:11.44 | orthox | ah, that does ring a bell now. |
| 09:12.29 | Mr_Molez | we are the leaders in innovation :P |
| 09:12.58 | orthox | how does openleague differ from the othre leagues i've seen? |
| 09:13.25 | Mr_Molez | more choice, pretty much any match time length u can think of, any lots of different maps |
| 09:13.34 | Mr_Molez | any = and |
| 09:14.07 | orthox | ah. so i wouldn't need two different teams for both pb and ducati |
| 09:14.23 | Mr_Molez | the difference between the timelimit i have is it lets you do /timelimit 1 or /timelimit 9 |
| 09:14.36 | Mr_Molez | instead of restricted to /timelimit 10 / 15 / 20 etc |
| 09:15.00 | orthox | i though the 1.0.3 version would allow a range to be specified like 1-1000 |
| 09:15.06 | Mr_Molez | orthox: well it aint made to replace the current league :P |
| 09:15.58 | orthox | not what i was getting at, more of a technical question about the plugin. |
| 09:16.40 | Mr_Molez | orthox: hmm not sure, aint tried it recently, but the previous versions you could only do 10, 15 , 20 etc |
| 09:17.12 | orthox | do the teams in openleage have any difficulty in finding/arranging/scheduling matches? |
| 09:17.56 | Mr_Molez | we've tried to make it easier by adding things such as find players onto the league site itself |
| 09:18.07 | Mr_Molez | also a page to show match servers and show if any players are on them |
| 09:18.23 | Mr_Molez | also the match servers should show in the server list when people are on them |
| 09:18.50 | Mr_Molez | it is usually easier than other leagues to find matches |
| 09:19.08 | orthox | i've been thinking about a system where a team (or team leader) could post a match request on a website, and others could review the match requests (date/time/server) and accept the challenge. |
| 09:19.26 | Mr_Molez | yeh we have that in the planning |
| 09:19.33 | orthox | it would automatically dispatch an observer to record/monitor the match/etc... |
| 09:20.00 | orthox | leading into automated score reporting, etc... |
| 09:20.04 | Mr_Molez | we dont really have a need for that, all our matches are automatically recorded and are available for everyone to watch |
| 09:20.12 | Mr_Molez | we have automated match report |
| 09:20.23 | orthox | do you know what the timeframe is? (the match maker) |
| 09:20.41 | Mr_Molez | what do you mean ? |
| 09:21.04 | orthox | the system i described for the matched. you mentioned it was in the planning. |
| 09:21.12 | orthox | s/matched/matches/ |
| 09:21.19 | Mr_Molez | yeh what we want |
| 09:21.28 | orthox | ? |
| 09:21.29 | Mr_Molez | is a few tables where a person can say i want a match at this time |
| 09:21.40 | Mr_Molez | then other people can add themselves to the table |
| 09:21.52 | Mr_Molez | untill there are atleast 2 people from two difference teams |
| 09:22.02 | Mr_Molez | then they can choose to lock the match and set it |
| 09:22.12 | Mr_Molez | then bzmails will be sent to all involved, or the teams involved |
| 09:22.54 | orthox | one of the things i was thinking about was creating the system as an extension of the leage website software (think its an opensource package) |
| 09:23.19 | orthox | or just another sourceforge project |
| 09:23.35 | orthox | darn. clean compile. same error. |
| 09:23.58 | Mr_Molez | uhhh |
| 09:23.59 | Mr_Molez | hmm |
| 09:24.15 | Mr_Molez | just get the latest cvs it will be easier :P |
| 09:24.31 | orthox | i just found i get the same error for the logDetail plugin |
| 09:24.38 | Mr_Molez | lol |
| 09:24.44 | Mr_Molez | latest cvs ;) |
| 09:24.49 | Mr_Molez | ~bzcvs |
| 09:24.56 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P bzflag (this is for HEAD ie: 2.1 see also bz20cvs) |
| 09:24.56 | orthox | its stable? |
| 09:24.57 | Mr_Molez | yup |
| 09:25.02 | Mr_Molez | ~bzcvs bz20cvs |
| 09:25.06 | Mr_Molez | ~bz20cvs |
| 09:25.07 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 09:25.13 | Mr_Molez | get that one :P |
| 09:25.23 | orthox | whats the difference? |
| 09:25.36 | Mr_Molez | the top one has a protocol break |
| 09:25.42 | Mr_Molez | it will be no use to you |
| 09:27.22 | orthox | cvs uses port 2401? |
| 09:28.07 | Mr_Molez | duno |
| 09:28.12 | orthox | my firewall is turning to swiss cheese thanks to bzflag |
| 09:28.17 | Mr_Molez | lol |
| 09:29.25 | orthox | yup 2401 |
| 09:30.42 | orthox | at least for pserver |
| 09:31.18 | orthox | hows cvs working out for the project? |
| 09:31.27 | orthox | i've never actually used cvs myself |
| 09:31.56 | Mr_Molez | im not a dev :P |
| 09:32.02 | orthox | ah. |
| 09:32.03 | Mr_Molez | but i would say its good when it works ;) |
| 09:32.20 | orthox | i'm a subversion convert. |
| 09:32.45 | orthox | and i've used rational clearcase, borland starteam, microsoft sourcesafe |
| 09:33.10 | Mr_Molez | there is talk about using that aswell as cvs i think |
| 09:33.44 | orthox | do i need any flags to include plugin support like the 2.0.8 version? |
| 09:34.04 | Mr_Molez | i think you will need -enable-shared |
| 09:34.46 | Mr_Molez | --enable-plugins wont hurt either just to make sure :P |
| 09:36.42 | orthox | making |
| 09:37.17 | orthox | maybe this will fix a problem with one of my maps too =) |
| 09:37.25 | Mr_Molez | hehe |
| 09:37.38 | orthox | stay away from a worldsize of 6000 |
| 09:37.43 | Mr_Molez | :O |
| 09:38.01 | orthox | i've never had great fps (30-50) but now its at 0-1 |
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| 09:38.08 | Mr_Molez | haha |
| 09:38.09 | orthox | no clue what i changed. |
| 09:38.16 | orthox | hi a-delusion |
| 09:38.27 | Mr_Molez | just having a huge map will lower your fps |
| 09:38.35 | A-Delusion | uh.. good morning |
| 09:38.48 | orthox | yes. i noticed that. |
| 09:39.03 | orthox | trying to find ways to reduce the impact. |
| 09:39.17 | orthox | doesnt help with 900 buildings and 1500 pyramids |
| 09:39.26 | orthox | and fog |
| 09:39.28 | orthox | and rain |
| 09:39.39 | Mr_Molez | heh ;) |
| 09:41.20 | orthox | do you know if the 2.0 meshes (not boxes or pyramids) impact fps much as compared to the boxes and pyramids? |
| 09:41.40 | Mr_Molez | not a clue ; |
| 09:47.26 | orthox | A-Delusion: i saw you were on one of my servers a few hours ago |
| 09:47.49 | orthox | what did you think? |
| 09:48.56 | A-Delusion | ummm...what? |
| 09:49.04 | A-Delusion | where? |
| 09:49.04 | orthox | fogofwar |
| 09:49.14 | A-Delusion | my fog is off |
| 09:49.18 | orthox | =) |
| 09:49.39 | orthox | then it looked like a regular pillbox map |
| 09:50.15 | orthox | Mr_Molez: ok. i'm stumped. with the new code from cvs i get the same error |
| 09:50.32 | orthox | am i missing something with the shared library paths? |
| 09:50.49 | orthox | arg! |
| 09:50.54 | Mr_Molez | whats the error again ? |
| 09:51.32 | orthox | Plugin:logDetail found but does not contain bz_Load method, error bzfs: undefined symbol: bz_Load |
| 09:52.04 | orthox | maybe if i threaten the server with a large magnet... |
| 09:52.21 | Mr_Molez | yeh that will work :) |
| 09:53.37 | Mr_Molez | ill try compiling it :P |
| 09:53.52 | orthox | this is with one of the plugins that comes bundled too. |
| 09:54.33 | Mr_Molez | if i manage to compile it do u want the .so ? |
| 09:54.49 | orthox | sure, but someting tells me that it won't help. |
| 09:54.57 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 09:55.48 | orthox | i just ran strings on the plugin and bz_Load is in the file |
| 09:56.07 | orthox | the .so |
| 09:58.31 | Mr_Molez | hmm |
| 09:58.44 | Mr_Molez | go into bzflag/plugins/TimeLimit and do make |
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| 10:00.20 | orthox | i just deleted bad things |
| 10:00.54 | Mr_Molez | http://openleague.org/TimeLimit.so |
| 10:00.56 | Mr_Molez | if u wanna try it |
| 10:01.54 | orthox | i just deleted all my maps |
| 10:02.02 | orthox | running make uninstall |
| 10:02.19 | Mr_Molez | uhoh |
| 10:03.28 | Mr_Molez | ok cu got to go :P |
| 10:03.36 | orthox | thanks for all the help. |
| 10:03.48 | orthox | i appreciate it. |
| 10:03.53 | orthox | later |
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| 11:04.04 | Guest439eu | huhu |
| 11:04.33 | Guest439eu | ich versuche, auf meinem Server die Wings einzustellen |
| 11:04.48 | Guest439eu | es gibt da diese option _wingsJumpCount |
| 11:04.55 | Guest439eu | ich will es auf 5 stellen |
| 11:05.05 | Guest439eu | aber irgendwas mach ich falsch |
| 11:05.19 | Chestal | was hast du denn probiert? |
| 11:05.36 | Guest439eu | ich habe es in die worldmap geschrieben |
| 11:05.41 | Guest439eu | in einen option block |
| 11:05.45 | Guest439eu | aber es ging nicht |
| 11:05.55 | Guest439eu | und ich habe versucht, es über das admin tool zu machen |
| 11:06.06 | Chestal | hmm, damit kenen ich mich nicht aus, ich mache das immer als bzfs-Parameter |
| 11:06.08 | Guest439eu | aber ich weiß nichtmal so genau, wie ich mich als admin einstelle |
| 11:06.19 | Guest439eu | wenn du bzfs startest? |
| 11:06.43 | Guest439eu | also bzfs -set_wingJumpCount 5 |
| 11:06.48 | Guest439eu | ?? |
| 11:06.54 | Guest439eu | in Anführungszeichen? |
| 11:07.01 | Guest439eu | es klappte bei mir nicht |
| 11:07.07 | Guest439eu | ich mach es unter windows |
| 11:07.18 | Guest439eu | allein die Pfadangaben machen mich wahnsinnig ;-) |
| 11:07.19 | Chestal | ich verwende eine Datei für die Variablen, sagen wir 'myvars'. Und dann bei bzfs der Parameter -vars myvars |
| 11:07.25 | Guest439eu | ah |
| 11:07.28 | Guest439eu | ok |
| 11:07.41 | Guest439eu | was genau steht in der myvars drin? |
| 11:07.42 | Chestal | und in der Datei dann halt 'set _wingsJumpCount 3' und bei Bedarf weitere Zeilen |
| 11:07.50 | Guest439eu | ok |
| 11:07.52 | Chestal | über die map sollte es auch gehen, aber ich verwende immer nur random maps |
| 11:07.54 | Guest439eu | das probier ich mal |
| 11:07.56 | Guest439eu | danke! |
| 11:10.40 | Guest439eu | nein, klappt nicht |
| 11:10.41 | Guest439eu | mmh |
| 11:11.09 | Guest439eu | ich habe -set_wingJumpCount 5 in der vars-Datei stehen |
| 11:11.26 | Guest439eu | ich rufe die -vars nach dem -conf Pfad auf |
| 11:11.36 | Chestal | nein, 'set _wingsJumpCount 5' |
| 11:11.51 | Chestal | muss erstmal weg |
| 11:11.52 | Guest439eu | ah, ohne das minus? |
| 11:11.58 | Guest439eu | ok, merci ! |
| 11:12.01 | Chestal | ja |
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| 13:04.24 | RatOmeter | spldart: what kind of repairs? |
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| 13:09.41 | spldart | then jammed beck, sublime, citizen king and blackalicious louder than I can normally get away with here :) |
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| 13:59.23 | A_Heart_Attack | any admins on norang here? |
| 14:00.20 | SportChick | yes |
| 14:00.21 | SportChick | I am |
| 14:00.36 | SportChick | A_Heart_Attack: what's wrong? |
| 14:00.40 | A_Heart_Attack | can u go to tank driving 101? |
| 14:00.44 | SportChick | yes |
| 14:00.52 | A_Heart_Attack | theres a TKer kike axl rose |
| 14:01.41 | tokimi | ugh, not him again |
| 14:03.24 | SportChick | DTRemenak_Srv: are you awake yet? |
| 14:03.32 | SportChick | menotume: you? |
| 14:04.36 | DTRemenak_Srv | SportChick: just heading to breakfast, sorry |
| 14:04.57 | spldart | ah axl rose |
| 14:05.00 | ToughShooter | Hmm |
| 14:05.08 | ToughShooter | Wasn't he banned somewhere? |
| 14:05.17 | spldart | I thought he was perma banned on master list |
| 14:05.50 | ToughShooter | Ah, I see he did tk etc in viper mailing list |
| 14:08.27 | ToughShooter | probably the wrong IP |
| 14:08.47 | SportChick | DTRemenak_Srv: np, I ifgured it out |
| 14:09.13 | SportChick | ToughShooter: it wasn't axl rose - his name was "i m just a stupid bottt" |
| 14:09.23 | ToughShooter | Aaah |
| 14:09.39 | spldart | is he still 24.177.58.something? |
| 14:09.46 | spldart | Oh |
| 14:10.05 | ToughShooter | kike means like? |
| 14:10.26 | ToughShooter | That would explain my confusion :) |
| 14:10.53 | spldart | kike = racial slur last I heard |
| 14:11.22 | ToughShooter | Eww |
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| 14:15.32 | SportChick | yes, spldart, it is |
| 14:16.55 | ToughShooter | but as AHT said "theres a TKer kike axl rose" I would rather think he meant like |
| 14:17.08 | SportChick | yeah, I didn't see it until you asked what it meant |
| 14:17.15 | ToughShooter | k is right next to l on my keyboard |
| 14:17.35 | SportChick | ahh, probably (I hope) |
| 14:18.18 | spldart | I thought he was relaying an entire tankname 'Ki..... ose' |
| 14:23.22 | A_Heart_Attack | yes i ment like |
| 14:23.27 | DTRemenak_Srv | heh |
| 14:23.42 | spldart | Has he changed IP from what's on the masterbanlist? |
| 14:25.46 | ToughShooter | spldart: It seems that it was another player |
| 14:25.59 | spldart | k |
| 14:26.03 | ToughShooter | So I think no masterban change is needed |
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| 14:53.10 | bendy24 | SportChick: ping |
| 14:54.31 | SportChick | bendy24: pong |
| 14:54.42 | bendy24 | hi |
| 14:54.50 | bendy24 | did nid call it quits |
| 14:54.51 | bendy24 | ? |
| 14:55.11 | SportChick | bendy24: not really - he's just been super busy |
| 14:55.18 | SportChick | the servers are still on the list |
| 14:55.27 | bendy24 | they were down last night |
| 14:55.34 | SportChick | oh? |
| 14:55.48 | bendy24 | im gone for three months and everything falls apart? |
| 14:55.51 | bendy24 | :) |
| 14:55.52 | ToughShooter | ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
| 14:56.02 | bendy24 | yeah |
| 14:56.10 | SportChick | yeah, I'll give him a call |
| 14:56.11 | SportChick | thanks |
| 14:56.17 | bendy24 | np |
| 14:56.46 | SportChick | bendy24: I presume you're mindbender? |
| 14:57.00 | bendy24 | yep |
| 14:57.04 | bendy24 | miss me? |
| 14:58.35 | SportChick | of course! |
| 14:58.40 | bendy24 | :> |
| 14:58.53 | SportChick | bendy24: join ##essy |
| 14:59.07 | bendy24 | one sec |
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| 15:00.35 | Gilly | Heya :) has anyone yet tested bzflag with the new r300 driver ? |
| 15:01.34 | Gilly | anyways... i got it mostly working, but bullets didn't show up correctly on radar |
| 15:01.41 | Gilly | without smooth setting on |
| 15:01.56 | Gilly | but smooth drew my fps so low that i couldn't use it for serious playing |
| 15:02.15 | Gilly | the problem was that some of the bullets became mere 1x1 pixels while others showed up correctly |
| 15:02.53 | Gilly | playing a while around with code i got it working by drawing each bullet twice :) but i would be glad to hear there was a more sophisticated method (yes i know, it's a driver bug) |
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| 16:33.28 | JeffM2501 | yay for internet in the classroom :) |
| 16:33.49 | a_meteorite | lol |
| 16:33.58 | a_meteorite | *guilty* |
| 16:34.03 | JeffM2501 | no not you |
| 16:34.07 | JeffM2501 | our classroom |
| 16:34.11 | a_meteorite | ahh |
| 16:34.26 | a_meteorite | we're about to have a pot luck here |
| 16:35.10 | JeffM2501 | It was suposed to hook up net to the 2 new guys downstairs in the class, and since I see dtr on a sbc dsl... then I know he did :) |
| 16:35.22 | JeffM2501 | the bastard has more downstream then I do :) |
| 16:35.24 | DTRemenak | yup yup |
| 16:35.39 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 16:35.49 | a_meteorite | the DSL here is pretty lousy |
| 16:36.10 | JeffM2501 | he also gets free lunch |
| 16:36.22 | a_meteorite | he better share! |
| 16:36.29 | JeffM2501 | he can't |
| 16:36.39 | JeffM2501 | we catter all our classes |
| 16:36.41 | JeffM2501 | and he's in class |
| 16:36.53 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 16:37.54 | JeffM2501 | wonder how long it'll be before it's got a vmware linux install on his machine :) |
| 16:38.07 | a_meteorite | :D |
| 16:38.27 | JeffM2501 | we do own a copy of workstation now, so we can make em |
| 16:39.10 | a_meteorite | can't live without linus torvalds in our lives somehow, eh? ;) |
| 16:39.32 | JeffM2501 | it was a joke |
| 16:39.32 | ToughShooter | I can :p |
| 16:40.11 | a_meteorite | JeffM2501: so was the sharing bit ;) |
| 16:40.12 | JeffM2501 | tho it may be the easyest way to automate some of the tasks we have |
| 16:51.31 | JeffM2501 | must... stop...looking ...for computer.. parts... to.. buy... |
| 16:51.53 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: i got that habit :P |
| 16:51.54 | a_meteorite | what are you looking at now? :) |
| 16:52.01 | JeffM2501 | it's just so cheap |
| 16:52.10 | JeffM2501 | a_meteorite, just processors and stuff |
| 16:52.14 | a_meteorite | ah |
| 16:52.26 | a_meteorite | I was looking at the core 2 duo's. they're so tempting. |
| 16:52.30 | JeffM2501 | I even have a full system now I have nothing to do with |
| 16:52.47 | JeffM2501 | it's down in the classroom that dtr is in |
| 16:52.47 | a_meteorite | the E6600 is a pretty good deal, and it knocks out the fx-62 in most everything |
| 16:52.51 | JeffM2501 | just cus I had it sitin around |
| 16:52.56 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 16:53.09 | JeffM2501 | yeah the core 2s are nice |
| 16:53.28 | a_meteorite | Intel really out did themselves :) |
| 16:53.34 | JeffM2501 | not realy |
| 16:53.43 | JeffM2501 | it's where they should have been 2 years ago |
| 16:54.04 | JeffM2501 | they had the tech for it back then in the Pentium M |
| 16:54.18 | JeffM2501 | they jsut were very slow and languished on the P4 for far too long |
| 16:54.24 | a_meteorite | yes, but I mean they did a good job considering their previous desktop line |
| 16:54.27 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 16:54.36 | JeffM2501 | they picked the right CPU to move forward with |
| 16:54.39 | JeffM2501 | the P M |
| 16:54.43 | a_meteorite | yup |
| 16:54.52 | JeffM2501 | the question will be is how profitable are they |
| 16:55.03 | a_meteorite | although, I'm a tad afraid how long Intel will keep up the performance streak if I actually got one |
| 16:55.09 | a_meteorite | that too :) |
| 16:55.19 | JeffM2501 | it's not like the CPU will get any slower |
| 16:55.24 | JeffM2501 | there will always be faster stuff |
| 16:55.29 | a_meteorite | that's true also |
| 16:55.42 | JeffM2501 | unless your just trying to impress your friends on the net |
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| 16:55.56 | a_meteorite | nah, I really need an upgrade ;) |
| 16:56.18 | a_meteorite | any core 2 will probably be faster than I need actually |
| 16:56.26 | JeffM2501 | then pick it based on price |
| 16:57.51 | a_meteorite | I wonder how many ten folds of performance increase I'll get from a k6-2 400mhz ;) |
| 16:58.22 | JeffM2501 | I just upgraded, I had no desire to spend 1000 on an upgrade, when it wasn't THAT much faster then spending 350 for a 4600x2 |
| 16:59.25 | JeffM2501 | mostly cus I'd have to buy new ram |
| 16:59.26 | a_meteorite | yeah, everything has to be taken relatively |
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| 16:59.39 | JonathanD | Good afternoon. |
| 16:59.43 | JeffM2501 | sup |
| 16:59.46 | a_meteorite | bbl |
| 16:59.52 | JonathanD | I'm having an issue with bzflag, specifically the chat. |
| 17:00.05 | JonathanD | PMs are stuck going to one person, arrows do nothing, etc. |
| 17:00.15 | JeffM2501 | what version? |
| 17:00.28 | JonathanD | 2.0.8 |
| 17:00.32 | JonathanD | and 2.0.6 |
| 17:00.37 | JeffM2501 | I've heard that problem before |
| 17:00.38 | JonathanD | both have the same behaviour. |
| 17:00.47 | JeffM2501 | yeah SportChick reported it |
| 17:00.52 | JonathanD | mmhmm |
| 17:00.53 | JeffM2501 | was never able to duplicate it |
| 17:00.56 | JonathanD | on my behalf :P |
| 17:01.02 | JeffM2501 | had it happen to her too |
| 17:01.06 | JonathanD | right |
| 17:01.10 | JonathanD | I guess we're the only 2 :P |
| 17:01.12 | JeffM2501 | well, try renaming your config dir, and let it make a new one |
| 17:01.19 | JeffM2501 | maybe there was a bug in upgrade |
| 17:01.27 | JeffM2501 | just as a test |
| 17:01.48 | ToughShooter | I had that problem quite a few times |
| 17:01.54 | Matt123 | the arrow keys to pm to differ4ent people only work for me if i use my mouse to play. when i use the arrows i cantchange the person i pm to unless i move the mouse |
| 17:02.02 | JonathanD | one moment |
| 17:02.04 | ToughShooter | Also noticed sometimes the chat history can't be accessed |
| 17:02.20 | JonathanD | ToughShooter: perhaps that is it. I play with the keyboard (on a laptop) |
| 17:02.32 | JeffM2501 | that may be a feature then |
| 17:02.43 | JeffM2501 | to prevent you from contantly changing the player as you drive |
| 17:02.46 | JeffM2501 | let me check the code. |
| 17:02.57 | JonathanD | can a remap those to something else? |
| 17:02.58 | JeffM2501 | we should at least let you rebind them |
| 17:02.59 | DTRemenak | yes, it is |
| 17:03.01 | JeffM2501 | checking |
| 17:03.09 | JeffM2501 | dtremenak can they be remaped? |
| 17:03.16 | ToughShooter | Wow, it is a feature? |
| 17:03.20 | DTRemenak | player selection cannot be, but driving keys can be |
| 17:03.24 | DTRemenak | put them on wasd or something |
| 17:03.38 | Matt123 | that would be hard to jump also |
| 17:03.46 | Matt123 | i guess you coulsd move jump too |
| 17:03.48 | ToughShooter | If it is a "feature" I found that always very annoying |
| 17:03.48 | JeffM2501 | hmmm, let me see if I can add a remap for player selection |
| 17:04.02 | JeffM2501 | or maybe a modifiyer |
| 17:04.53 | JeffM2501 | after I go find band-aids |
| 17:08.07 | JonathanD | doesn't work when I play by mouse either |
| 17:09.15 | JonathanD | or maybe it does |
| 17:09.34 | JeffM2501 | it should be reasonable to be able to set the keys |
| 17:09.42 | JeffM2501 | I shall look |
| 17:10.16 | ToughShooter | or I should but I don't kow the entry point |
| 17:11.35 | DTRemenak | band-aids? |
| 17:12.12 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 17:12.23 | JeffM2501 | got bug bites on my hands |
| 17:12.29 | JeffM2501 | they itch like hell |
| 17:12.35 | JeffM2501 | so Carla had bandaids for me |
| 17:12.52 | JeffM2501 | keep me from scraching them |
| 17:14.51 | DTRemenak | what kind of bug? |
| 17:15.54 | JeffM2501 | dono |
| 17:15.59 | JeffM2501 | probably something from the dogs |
| 17:16.20 | JeffM2501 | they love to sneak in and sleep on my bed |
| 17:16.32 | DTRemenak | wonderful |
| 17:17.49 | JeffM2501 | they receved a thurouh washing, they did not like it |
| 17:18.04 | JeffM2501 | mostly I just need to not scratch them :) |
| 17:20.39 | JeffM2501 | looks like shift + left and right will do it |
| 17:21.29 | JeffM2501 | so JonathanD try holding down shift and using left and right |
| 17:22.06 | JonathanD | nifty |
| 17:22.08 | JonathanD | I'll try that |
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| 17:29.51 | purple_cow | down down up up... |
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| 17:30.06 | JeffM2501 | left left right right |
| 17:30.14 | JeffM2501 | A B A B start select |
| 17:30.23 | purple_cow | you fail |
| 17:30.29 | Silver[a] | lol |
| 17:30.51 | Silver[a] | Is that a Contra code? |
| 17:30.59 | JeffM2501 | even god knows it |
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| 18:13.00 | orthox | Mr_Molez: finally figured it out! maybe i was too tired and didn't see it in the documentation, but the first call to load a plugin needs to specify the full path. the others don't. |
| 18:13.41 | Mr_Molez | orthox: did you fix the compile problem, or are you just using the .so i made for you ? |
| 18:14.44 | orthox | none of it worked. just specifying -loadplugin /usr/local/lib/TimeLimit worked |
| 18:15.05 | Mr_Molez | uhhuh |
| 18:15.22 | orthox | i think it was compiling fine. it was a 2005 post by darth vader about a similar windows problem that seemed to help. |
| 18:16.04 | Mr_Molez | k :p |
| 18:16.17 | orthox | thanks for the help again. |
| 18:16.32 | Mr_Molez | np, although i really wasn't any help :P |
| 18:17.03 | orthox | is that a bug you think. you gave me the confidence about how the plugins should work so i didn't go down many other troubleshooting paths. |
| 18:17.09 | orthox | that is a big help. |
| 18:17.44 | orthox | (the bug referencing the need to specify the full path the the plugin for the first plugin loaded, but not the others) |
| 18:18.05 | Mr_Molez | not sure, i always load by full paths anyway |
| 18:18.14 | Mr_Molez | i assumed it wouldn't work any other way |
| 18:18.28 | orthox | ah. what threw me off is all the documentation doesn't specify the path. |
| 18:19.02 | orthox | a stupid simple thing (usually my problem) |
| 18:19.39 | orthox | at least i didn't go deep into the code trying to rewrite it (i almost started hacking the bzfsapi file |
| 18:19.41 | orthox | ) |
| 18:20.08 | Mr_Molez | lol |
| 18:21.09 | orthox | well thanks again. i'm off to abuse these plugins. |
| 18:21.34 | Mr_Molez | cu :) |
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| 19:02.10 | Theme97 | Abuse plug-ins? I want to help! :D |
| 19:02.16 | Theme97 | Even if I'm 40 minutes late. |
| 19:03.35 | orthox | nothing too fun i'm afriad. just the TimeLimit plugin for now. |
| 19:03.54 | orthox | heck. i just ran out of drivespace on my bzflag server. |
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| 19:05.50 | JonathanD | ok, next problem :P |
| 19:06.54 | JonathanD | my graphics are annoyingly slow now |
| 19:06.58 | JonathanD | was working a couple hours ago |
| 19:07.00 | JonathanD | now it's not |
| 19:12.59 | blast007 | what color depth are you running at? |
| 19:14.22 | JonathanD | 32bit |
| 19:14.32 | blast007 | k |
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| 19:18.01 | orthox | thats better. |
| 19:32.08 | spldart | funny how bzflag comes down as 10 or 20 meg in source but becomes over 100 meg after compile |
| 19:32.22 | spldart | eats up drivespace quick if your tinkering with several versions |
| 19:33.13 | spldart | My bzflag directory is only a bit under 1 gig 8-0 |
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| 19:34.26 | Rounin | Hello... I was wondering if anyone could help getting bzflag to use the sound card? |
| 19:34.36 | Rounin | It keeps saying "Couldn't open audio: No available audio device", which isn't true |
| 19:35.00 | spldart | OS? |
| 19:35.10 | Rounin | Oh, sorry, Ubuntu Linux |
| 19:35.15 | spldart | module loaded? |
| 19:35.24 | Rounin | Yes, the audio's working, just not in bzflag |
| 19:35.27 | spldart | I assume so if you have sound otherwse |
| 19:35.28 | spldart | k |
| 19:35.39 | spldart | device? |
| 19:35.40 | Rounin | It's been like that for months though I think |
| 19:36.00 | Mr_Molez | Rounin: stop anything using your soundcard and try again, if your in kde arts could be using it |
| 19:36.12 | Rounin | Err... "ATI IXP" |
| 19:36.26 | Rounin | I don't run arts either though... I could try lsof I suppose |
| 19:36.36 | spldart | good call MrMolez |
| 19:36.40 | spldart | hrm |
| 19:37.03 | spldart | which ver of bzflag client is this? |
| 19:37.16 | Rounin | Oh, wait, I do |
| 19:37.31 | Rounin | I just forgot to tack on the "d" |
| 19:37.34 | Rounin | Let me try again now |
| 19:37.39 | Mr_Molez | Rounin: ;) |
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| 19:38.27 | Rounin | It didn't help, but at least I got an application called "knotify" (which I don't use) to crash |
| 19:38.55 | Rounin | And there's about 3 million things using "libaudio" something or other, but none using the device it seems |
| 19:40.21 | Mr_Molez | no arts ? |
| 19:40.55 | Rounin | It was running (and esd), but I've killed them, to no avail I'm afraid |
| 19:41.14 | Mr_Molez | and media players running ? if not i aint got a clue what your problem is :P |
| 19:41.30 | Rounin | And I'm using alsa with dmix, so the sound device should never be busy, really |
| 19:41.41 | Rounin | I could try killing the alarm clock thing, but that's about it |
| 19:42.30 | Rounin | Unfortunately, it's still the same... Thanks for the suggestions though |
| 19:42.41 | Mr_Molez | what version u got ? |
| 19:43.07 | Rounin | Apparently 2.0.4 |
| 19:43.16 | spldart | BZ uses sdl right? Any other games on the machine have sound issues using sdl? |
| 19:43.40 | Rounin | Ah... perhaps I should see if I have any env vars overriding SDL |
| 19:44.13 | Rounin | I'll try mplayer with SDL output if I can get it to do that |
| 19:45.19 | Rounin | No, that works too... |
| 19:45.57 | spldart | hrm |
| 19:46.05 | Mr_Molez | upgrade is always good :P |
| 19:46.22 | Rounin | I guess... Perhaps I'll try that |
| 19:46.35 | Mr_Molez | ~bzfcvs2.0 |
| 19:46.39 | Mr_Molez | ~bzfcvs2. |
| 19:46.41 | Mr_Molez | ~bzfcvs |
| 19:46.49 | Mr_Molez | uhoh guess not |
| 19:46.51 | Rounin | Oh, it was a config error |
| 19:47.08 | Mr_Molez | you edited your config ? |
| 19:47.10 | Rounin | My last resort was to move ~/.bzf to ~/.bzlol, and I instantly got sound back |
| 19:47.19 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 19:47.23 | spldart | :) |
| 19:47.53 | Rounin | I've no idea what it was though... |
| 19:48.08 | Rounin | Thanks for all your good suggestions though |
| 19:48.35 | spldart | I know he's talking about my Mr_Molez :-p |
| 19:48.39 | spldart | I'm just a n00b |
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| 20:06.35 | Rounin | Be for now..! |
| 20:06.39 | Rounin | I mean bye |
| 20:06.47 | spldart | cyah |
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| 20:32.08 | Theme97 | I found a really, really weird glitch out of boredom. Not sure if it has been found before. |
| 20:32.27 | Theme97 | I got bored and decided to quickkey /flag give Theme97 R* for all the team colors |
| 20:32.42 | Theme97 | and when I went through them, as a red tank, it said "took my own flag into Red team territory" |
| 20:35.55 | JeffM2501 | were you on your own base? |
| 20:36.33 | Theme97 | Yeah. |
| 20:36.40 | JeffM2501 | so you realy did do that then |
| 20:37.02 | Birdie | is it normal if a game is paused, the timer stops for the playing teams but not for observers? |
| 20:37.22 | Theme97 | But why'd it have to punish me for giving myself my own flag on my own base? |
| 20:37.33 | JeffM2501 | cus it thinks you caped your own flag |
| 20:37.43 | JeffM2501 | the cap code dosn't know about flag give |
| 20:38.04 | JeffM2501 | and you shoulnd't be cheatin ;) |
| 20:38.21 | Theme97 | I'm the only one playing, Toast! and Carrot are observers :P |
| 20:38.26 | JeffM2501 | so |
| 20:38.28 | Theme97 | Fixed in 2.1? I don't want my boredom to hurt me. |
| 20:38.37 | JeffM2501 | it's not realy a bug |
| 20:38.40 | JeffM2501 | it's what happened |
| 20:38.44 | Theme97 | Argh, fine :P |
| 20:38.52 | JeffM2501 | flag give breaks a lot of rules |
| 20:39.06 | JeffM2501 | so there is bound to be some strange behavor |
| 20:39.18 | JeffM2501 | tho the flag pickup and cap system is difrent in 2.1 |
| 20:39.23 | JeffM2501 | so it may not have the same effect |
| 20:40.43 | JeffM2501 | Birdie, that dosn't sound like it should be right |
| 20:40.58 | Birdie | i noticed that several times |
| 20:41.06 | JeffM2501 | one state for all |
| 20:41.11 | JeffM2501 | sounds like a bug |
| 20:41.15 | Birdie | for observer the timer doesnt stops, when there is a resume they see the "real" time again though |
| 20:41.30 | Birdie | stop* |
| 20:41.32 | JeffM2501 | server probably just dosn't send them out the pause message |
| 20:47.48 | Theme97 | Is it possible to temporarily grant only one permission without needing to make a group for it? |
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| 21:03.24 | Theme97 | I'm getting "call of overloaded `abs(float&)` is ambiguous" errors in my plug-in... how do I get it to know which type to use? |
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| 21:07.28 | Theme97 | Nevermind, I just wrote my own. |
| 21:07.35 | A_Heart_Attack | ? |
| 21:07.43 | Theme97 | What? |
| 21:07.53 | A_Heart_Attack | nvnm |
| 21:07.55 | A_Heart_Attack | *nvm |
| 21:49.49 | Thumper_ | menotume: ping |
| 21:50.17 | SportyGal | Theme97: he's hiding again |
| 21:50.25 | SportyGal | Thumper_: from you even ;) |
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| 22:39.16 | spldart | Theme97... Do you know who made that map that we were just on? |
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| 23:07.29 | mistake | hello |
| 23:07.37 | mistake | ii have a question |
| 23:07.44 | JeffM2501 | have at it |
| 23:07.47 | Theme97 | spladart: Win Xp made map, I made plug-in. |
| 23:07.58 | mistake | the new version lets one see what the speed of a tank is |
| 23:08.14 | JeffM2501 | the reported speed yes |
| 23:08.17 | JeffM2501 | as an observer |
| 23:08.20 | mistake | if speed is 25, but one tank has a constant max speed of 26, is that significant? |
| 23:08.33 | JeffM2501 | probably not |
| 23:08.38 | JeffM2501 | but it's hard to say |
| 23:08.43 | JeffM2501 | due to how its' computed |
| 23:08.49 | JeffM2501 | I'd check the aperant speed |
| 23:08.59 | mistake | what is that? |
| 23:09.07 | JeffM2501 | there are 2 modes for the observer info |
| 23:09.09 | mistake | follow him and see if he is faster? |
| 23:09.13 | JeffM2501 | the second one has more info |
| 23:09.17 | JeffM2501 | the speed in ( ) |
| 23:09.24 | JeffM2501 | it's based on his real position updates |
| 23:09.28 | JeffM2501 | see if that matches |
| 23:09.37 | JeffM2501 | but it can be affected by lag |
| 23:09.43 | JeffM2501 | his, the server, or yours, |
| 23:09.58 | JeffM2501 | but realy that small amount is hard to pin down |
| 23:10.01 | mistake | ok, i dont have that version yet, somebody obsing reported it as that |
| 23:10.03 | JeffM2501 | it's probalby just lag/math |
| 23:10.07 | mistake | ok |
| 23:10.19 | JeffM2501 | the info is not a perfect indication of cheating |
| 23:10.21 | mistake | still, 26 is constant |
| 23:10.38 | JeffM2501 | we don't actualy send out the real speed |
| 23:10.41 | JeffM2501 | but a vector |
| 23:10.45 | mistake | yes |
| 23:11.07 | mistake | is low lag though, let me download that version and see for myself |
| 23:11.09 | mistake | thanks |
| 23:11.12 | JeffM2501 | is the player causing a problem in game? |
| 23:11.27 | mistake | he is a know cheater, but not actively causing problems |
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| 23:11.34 | JeffM2501 | who? |
| 23:11.43 | mistake | t-90 |
| 23:11.50 | romfis_ | yes :P |
| 23:11.52 | JeffM2501 | may be a small speed cheat |
| 23:12.04 | JeffM2501 | but if it's not causing problems or realy giving an advantage, not much you can do |
| 23:12.10 | SportyGal | romeofiesfisch! |
| 23:12.32 | mistake | yes, not causing problems, just that i am admin there and wasnt sure what to do |
| 23:12.37 | JeffM2501 | there will always be subtle cheats that are hard to prove unless you can get the client they use |
| 23:12.43 | romfis_ | Sporty! |
| 23:12.45 | JeffM2501 | ask the owner what there policy is |
| 23:12.55 | mistake | ban the cheaters:) |
| 23:13.02 | romfis_ | lol!! |
| 23:13.07 | JeffM2501 | then you need to know what they feel cheating is |
| 23:13.12 | romfis_ | i found the cheater :P |
| 23:13.37 | JeffM2501 | otherwise your just on a witch hunt |
| 23:14.01 | mistake | are you trying to stretch my opinion about what is a cheat? :) |
| 23:14.16 | JeffM2501 | everyone has there own definition |
| 23:14.26 | JeffM2501 | as an admin it is your job to enforce what the owner feels is a checat |
| 23:14.30 | a_meteorite | Oh, he's causing problems alright. |
| 23:14.40 | JeffM2501 | then it dosn't mater what his speed is :) |
| 23:14.50 | a_meteorite | He had God mode a few weeks ago. |
| 23:14.54 | a_meteorite | Got banned at GU too.. |
| 23:14.56 | mistake | he is causing problem snow? |
| 23:15.11 | JeffM2501 | if he was banned, and got around the ban, then just add the new IP to the ban |
| 23:15.16 | a_meteorite | for a tiny cheat, IIRC |
| 23:15.23 | mistake | he is only banned from gu league, not servers |
| 23:15.28 | JeffM2501 | if the ban is up and your just watching him closely, then you can just watch |
| 23:15.29 | Matt123 | what was the link to the 2.0.9 windows build? |
| 23:15.29 | a_meteorite | oh, wait |
| 23:15.35 | a_meteorite | "T-90" for proved cheating on public servers (fast reaload, fast tank) - ends 31 Decemeber 2006 |
| 23:15.35 | a_meteorite | T-90 (aka goldcat, hellspeed, amd others) insists in cheating on public serious servers. We caught him again cheating, this time it is a life ban from GU league and public servers. |
| 23:15.46 | a_meteorite | I get all the cheats confused. :x |
| 23:16.08 | JeffM2501 | http://beta.bzflag.bz/builds/2.0.x/ |
| 23:16.15 | mistake | ok, i'll see what the damage is, thanks very much guys |
| 23:16.31 | Matt123 | thanks JeffM2501 |
| 23:16.39 | JeffM2501 | I shoulda just named it the "mcarthyism" build |
| 23:16.40 | mistake | and good work with the features |
| 23:16.46 | mistake | :P |
| 23:16.59 | JeffM2501 | I didn't come up with them, the gu people did |
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| 23:59.54 | uso | what CientState has an observer from server view? InLimbo? |