00:04.02 | *** join/#bzflag Gnurdux (n=gnurdux@c-69-251-233-242.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
00:11.54 | Mr_Molez | did CBG GET banned >?? |
00:12.07 | L4m3r | he's been unbanned already |
00:12.17 | Mr_Molez | awww |
00:12.24 | Mr_Molez | what happened |
00:12.36 | L4m3r | someone was using an exploit to punt him |
00:12.41 | Mr_Molez | oh |
00:12.44 | L4m3r | his client reconnects automatically |
00:12.46 | Mr_Molez | he is ok now ? |
00:12.58 | L4m3r | brlcad (or someone else) got sick of the constant join and parting |
00:13.04 | L4m3r | yeah, he's fixed now |
00:13.42 | Mr_Molez | yeh he deserves a ban for that |
00:13.50 | Mr_Molez | i saw about 20 before i left |
00:13.56 | L4m3r | lol |
00:13.58 | Mr_Molez | how many since i come back >? |
00:14.11 | L4m3r | he wasn't there, he was just banned until DTR helped him fix it |
00:14.26 | Mr_Molez | lol |
00:14.40 | Mr_Molez | he should have been bannned for life |
00:14.44 | Mr_Molez | he only talks shit anyway ;) |
00:15.02 | trepan | language |
00:15.11 | L4m3r | well, so does Harmless, but he's still around (sadly) |
00:15.17 | Mr_Molez | language ?? english |
00:15.38 | trepan | mind your ... |
00:15.39 | Mr_Molez | i have never seen harmless talk i dotn think |
00:15.46 | L4m3r | heh |
00:15.49 | Mr_Molez | sorry but i wont mind my language no |
00:16.00 | Mr_Molez | if i feel something needs saying i will say it |
00:16.14 | brad | last time I saw him talk was "f**k you" in pm |
00:16.19 | brad | he's a nice guy |
00:16.20 | Mr_Molez | lol |
00:16.27 | L4m3r | he was nice enough to accuse me of cheating before running away from a server |
00:16.27 | Mr_Molez | pm to you ? |
00:16.30 | brad | yes |
00:16.35 | Mr_Molez | ouch |
00:17.06 | L4m3r | "admin cheating, typical" "How am I cheating?" *leaves* |
00:17.13 | Mr_Molez | hahahaha |
00:17.20 | L4m3r | not the first time either |
00:17.37 | Mr_Molez | L4m3r: have u ever talked to radeon,,, or even cbg for that matter |
00:17.49 | L4m3r | I talk to CBG all the time |
00:18.06 | Mr_Molez | (a shot goes from the right side of the map (even though the person they are aim ing at are on the left side of the map) |
00:18.16 | Mr_Molez | and they still say shots went through them lol |
00:18.24 | Mr_Molez | they ahve something to hide ;) |
00:19.27 | Mr_Molez | L4m3r: when i match cbg i get accusation of shots going trough,, lucky spawns.. lucky shots... lucky ricos... shots not hitting where he aimed.. every possibly reasons u can think of |
00:19.48 | L4m3r | lol |
00:19.55 | Mr_Molez | its actuall quite funny what new reasons he comes up with |
00:20.10 | L4m3r | "lucky" anything is just complaining, he's smart enough to know you can't cheat like that |
00:20.21 | Mr_Molez | but he isnt |
00:20.26 | Mr_Molez | he still says every 2 mins |
00:20.29 | Mr_Molez | LUCKY SPAWN |
00:20.32 | Mr_Molez | and ofcourse |
00:20.37 | Mr_Molez | the sarcastic |
00:20.41 | Mr_Molez | ohh nice spawn |
00:20.45 | Mr_Molez | like you can cheat spawn |
00:20.47 | Mr_Molez | s |
00:20.55 | Mr_Molez | he is rediculous |
00:21.05 | Mr_Molez | im sure he does it to wind ppl up like a little dick :P |
00:21.15 | *** kick/#bzflag [Mr_Molez!n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
00:21.19 | JeffM2501 | enough of that then |
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00:21.23 | Mr_Molez | aww comeon |
00:21.39 | JeffM2501 | enough of that |
00:21.42 | Mr_Molez | pfft |
00:21.43 | JeffM2501 | be nice |
00:21.49 | Mr_Molez | grow up JeffM2501 |
00:21.59 | JeffM2501 | heed your own advice |
00:22.05 | spldart | :( |
00:22.23 | L4m3r | I wish there was a way to ask server owners about certain players |
00:22.29 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: your problem is you put you nose into other peoples business too much ;) |
00:22.39 | Mr_Molez | L4m3r: there is, e-mail ;) |
00:22.45 | JeffM2501 | and your problem is you don't know where to talk about stuff |
00:22.51 | L4m3r | I mean, collectively |
00:23.05 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: nah, my problem is I dont mind if people see what i say ;) |
00:23.12 | JeffM2501 | we do |
00:23.15 | JeffM2501 | you know the rules |
00:23.19 | Mr_Molez | nuhuh |
00:23.20 | JeffM2501 | you just like to not heed them |
00:23.30 | Mr_Molez | you make the rules as you go along |
00:23.35 | JeffM2501 | sometimes yes |
00:23.42 | Mr_Molez | see you admit to it |
00:23.44 | JeffM2501 | noone said life was fair |
00:23.47 | JeffM2501 | so you do you |
00:23.48 | Mr_Molez | thats why u suck cock |
00:23.53 | Mr_Molez | no |
00:23.54 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@openleague.org] by JeffM2501 |
00:23.54 | *** kick/#bzflag [Mr_Molez!n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
00:23.59 | JeffM2501 | and he's done |
00:31.35 | L4m3r | join a server as observer, it's four against two, and the admin on the larger team is carrying the other team's flag home. Nice. |
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00:37.06 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *!*@openleague.org] by JeffM2501 |
00:38.29 | Gnurdux | L4m3r, what sevrer |
00:38.35 | L4m3r | lasermania |
00:38.39 | Gnurdux | ah |
00:40.19 | Gnurdux | server cant control rico |
00:40.29 | Gnurdux | you CAN do cheat spawns |
00:40.49 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: wow... I thought he grew up... O_o |
00:41.05 | JeffM2501 | naw |
00:41.13 | Gnurdux | who, molez? |
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00:41.26 | A_Meteorite | yes, Gnurdux |
00:41.41 | JeffM2501 | don't worry bout it guys |
00:41.52 | A_Meteorite | heh |
00:42.57 | JeffM2501 | L4m3r, what data would you want from server owners? |
00:42.59 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: ohhh and that calms thing down |
00:43.01 | JeffM2501 | how good somone is? |
00:43.20 | L4m3r | no, I'd want to be able to bitch about certain people |
00:43.25 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
00:43.28 | L4m3r | heh |
00:43.35 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, but it IS possible to do cheat spawns, cause one of my stupid "immortality" attempts did instant respawn in the same place |
00:43.48 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, pelase don't talk about cheating here |
00:43.50 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: oh thats eay |
00:43.56 | L4m3r | sometimes it's hard to tell if someone's just a jerk everywhere, or just on your server |
00:44.09 | Mr_Molez | but im sayinh.. to spawn where u want.. thats what the server desides isnt it |
00:44.09 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: how dare you stifle communication?! |
00:44.11 | JeffM2501 | yeah it would be nice to have contact info for server ows |
00:44.15 | purple_cow | FASCIST |
00:44.20 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, you know me |
00:44.54 | Mr_Molez | yes how dare you not allow me freedom of speech ! |
00:45.15 | Mr_Molez | words can be twisted in any way you want purple_cow ;) |
00:45.16 | JeffM2501 | if this was a free country, and not an internet IRC channel, sure ;) |
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00:46.01 | JeffM2501 | L4m3r, I did have a list server that required servers to reg to list, so you'd know they at least had a bzbb account tied to them. |
00:46.18 | JeffM2501 | be cool if you could then forward PM notifiactions to report |
00:46.40 | L4m3r | it'd be nice if there was a server owners' forum that one could subscribe to :P |
00:46.46 | JeffM2501 | some have it |
00:46.48 | JeffM2501 | some don't |
00:46.50 | Mr_Molez | when i find games i find i have to sign up for, i just give up on them ;) |
00:47.06 | Mr_Molez | but im sure im wrong and everyone else is right |
00:47.18 | JeffM2501 | was pondering doing somethign where each server/network coudl get it's own complete forum set, using the main user db |
00:47.18 | A_Meteorite | Mr_Molez: you're wrong |
00:47.20 | A_Meteorite | ;) |
00:47.26 | Mr_Molez | yeh , it rigures |
00:47.32 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: I'd go for it, I like it |
00:47.38 | L4m3r | I think one forum is fine for one server "ring" |
00:47.42 | A_Meteorite | I, for one, could use it. I know some other servers could |
00:47.44 | JeffM2501 | it would take some fancy php to get it setup |
00:47.47 | spldart | Sweet apathy |
00:48.01 | L4m3r | but it would be nice to have a communal forum for all server owners |
00:48.06 | JeffM2501 | I'd like to have the user system know about server rings or networks |
00:48.09 | JeffM2501 | like the mofos |
00:48.13 | JeffM2501 | know they are linked somehow |
00:48.16 | L4m3r | share info about cheaters, etc |
00:48.20 | A_Meteorite | Mr_Molez: only kidding if you didn't already know that ;) |
00:48.28 | JeffM2501 | well that is what your mofo fourm is for |
00:48.32 | JeffM2501 | same goes for the others |
00:48.35 | Mr_Molez | A_Meteorite: all i can say is A_Meteorbite |
00:48.38 | Mr_Molez | ;) |
00:48.41 | L4m3r | well, Jeff, if you're gonna go into that much depth, make it its own system :P |
00:48.42 | A-Delusion | it sure worked for us |
00:48.53 | JeffM2501 | Mr_Molez, please be nice |
00:48.55 | L4m3r | you wanna pull stuff out of bzbb anyway |
00:49.05 | JeffM2501 | yeah I do want to pull it |
00:49.09 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: you have got to be kidding me, what did i say wrong now |
00:49.12 | JeffM2501 | it shoudl be able to be hung off ther eg |
00:49.18 | A_Meteorite | it would be nice to just have something not on phpBB |
00:49.19 | L4m3r | yeah |
00:49.21 | A_Meteorite | something custom |
00:49.28 | JeffM2501 | Mr_Molez, it's not nice to inuslt people |
00:49.33 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: how ! |
00:49.37 | L4m3r | eww custom, no. something like IPB, or just anything better |
00:49.45 | JeffM2501 | making his name into metoribite |
00:49.46 | A_Meteorite | Vanilla boards! |
00:49.53 | L4m3r | handmade forums are ghetto |
00:49.59 | A_Meteorite | L4m3r: I agree there :) |
00:50.00 | JeffM2501 | is IPB what GU uses? |
00:50.07 | Mr_Molez | JeffM2501: ive been saying that to him for months now, if he aint got a problem with it YOU SHOULD HAVE. that sounds right |
00:50.11 | blast007 | L4m3r: I'd rather see the forum tied into global reg, not global reg tied into the forum |
00:50.13 | L4m3r | I'm not even sure if IPB is free or not |
00:50.17 | purple_cow | grass is always greener ;) |
00:50.23 | L4m3r | last007: agreed |
00:50.29 | JeffM2501 | if it's what GU uses it is not |
00:50.31 | blast007 | the last 007 agent |
00:50.37 | A_Meteorite | lol |
00:50.39 | JeffM2501 | runs about 200$ a year IIRC last time I checked |
00:50.43 | L4m3r | lol oops |
00:50.45 | blast007 | :) |
00:50.56 | L4m3r | eek, that's even more than vBulletin |
00:50.57 | blast007 | yeah, vB or IPB is nice |
00:51.07 | A_Meteorite | *sigh* they're moving: http://getvanilla.com/ |
00:51.09 | JeffM2501 | sportchick was asking if we could have some ofit's features |
00:51.17 | JeffM2501 | so I checked the prices |
00:51.24 | JeffM2501 | what does it have over phpbb? |
00:51.31 | L4m3r | everything |
00:51.35 | blast007 | it's coded better for one thing |
00:51.37 | JeffM2501 | like......? |
00:51.42 | JeffM2501 | what about end user features? |
00:51.44 | JeffM2501 | that we'd use |
00:51.45 | A_Meteorite | easier to extend functionality |
00:51.47 | L4m3r | newest version has plugins |
00:51.53 | JeffM2501 | that do? |
00:51.57 | A_Meteorite | whatever you want |
00:52.03 | L4m3r | all kinds of stuff |
00:52.03 | A_Meteorite | :)) |
00:52.11 | L4m3r | vbulletin.org, new stuff added constantly |
00:52.13 | JeffM2501 | like could make a plugin for group and server management? |
00:52.14 | blast007 | so no more hacking code to add stuff? |
00:52.21 | JeffM2501 | how much? |
00:52.30 | L4m3r | I paid $85/year |
00:52.33 | A_Meteorite | L4m3r: what forum software are we talking about? |
00:52.45 | L4m3r | I think for about twice that you can get an "owned license" that does not need renewal |
00:52.48 | L4m3r | vBulletin |
00:52.56 | JeffM2501 | but do you get updates for that onetime fee? |
00:52.58 | A_Meteorite | oh, I was talking about something different, hehe |
00:53.20 | L4m3r | JeffM2501: good question |
00:53.30 | JeffM2501 | cus we are hozed on updates now |
00:53.31 | L4m3r | you can update whenever you want via the "members area" |
00:53.36 | A_Meteorite | one free year of updates |
00:53.41 | A_Meteorite | $160 |
00:53.42 | L4m3r | eek |
00:53.54 | L4m3r | how much to keep getting updates? |
00:54.03 | A_Meteorite | no idea |
00:54.10 | A_Meteorite | ahh! |
00:54.11 | blast007 | $30 |
00:54.13 | A_Meteorite | $30/year |
00:54.22 | L4m3r | >_< |
00:54.33 | A_Meteorite | something about closed source makes me "errr..." |
00:54.39 | JeffM2501 | with out a set income stream it woudl be hard to justify that |
00:54.43 | L4m3r | it's not closed source, it's PHP |
00:54.50 | JeffM2501 | specialy since bzflag is about so much open source |
00:54.56 | JeffM2501 | then what do you pay for? |
00:54.59 | L4m3r | I know |
00:55.01 | A_Meteorite | something about paying for forums makes me go "errr..." |
00:55.02 | A_Meteorite | :) |
00:55.06 | L4m3r | you pay for a license to use it :P |
00:55.17 | L4m3r | and the features, and the modding community. |
00:55.39 | A_Meteorite | I would say Vanilla if it wasn't for the fact I |
00:55.51 | A_Meteorite | I would say Vanilla if it wasn't for the fact I've never used it in a "profession" envoronment or it's in beta |
00:56.08 | JeffM2501 | what does that one have over phpbb? |
00:56.08 | L4m3r | that $30/year member's area subscription is bogus, though |
00:56.19 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: I only took a peek, but I liked what I saw |
00:56.44 | L4m3r | better marking of posts, more sophisticated searching, better admin controls |
00:56.55 | A_Meteorite | I deleted it off my webserver since I had no use for it... as soon as it comes back I'll download it again |
00:57.00 | L4m3r | much more intuitive permissions and access system |
00:57.30 | A_Meteorite | wait, I still got it |
00:57.42 | JeffM2501 | dont' realy care about stuff you have a vauge idea about then met |
00:57.50 | blast007 | we could technically write our own...but that would be quite a task :) |
00:57.51 | A_Meteorite | alrighty |
00:58.23 | L4m3r | JeffM2501: I can let you play with a demo if you promise not to touch anything or tell anyone :P |
00:58.34 | L4m3r | I happen to have admin access at a random forum |
00:58.41 | JeffM2501 | personaly I'm not intereteted in the guts of it |
00:58.46 | L4m3r | heh |
00:58.54 | JeffM2501 | I hate web work |
00:59.09 | L4m3r | oh, forums are dynamic |
00:59.19 | L4m3r | forums can have child forums |
00:59.34 | JeffM2501 | that is a nice thing |
00:59.47 | L4m3r | well, most of it works that way |
00:59.59 | L4m3r | it's not concrete like phpBB, it's more flexible |
01:00.22 | L4m3r | categories are forums too |
01:00.30 | L4m3r | you just set an option to act like a category |
01:01.14 | L4m3r | the forum can allow users to email other users without giving their emails away |
01:01.28 | L4m3r | just a lot of nice touches like that |
01:01.30 | JeffM2501 | for any change to happen somone would have to take ownerhip of the login/web system and do the conversion |
01:01.59 | L4m3r | dealing with auth would be the hardest part |
01:02.17 | L4m3r | separating the user DB and making the forum run on it will be a chore, regardless of the software used |
01:02.39 | JeffM2501 | could you make a plugin that does the lookups that the list could call? |
01:03.09 | L4m3r | I don't know. most of the plugins are end-user stuff. |
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01:03.27 | L4m3r | honestly, I haven't played with vBulletin code in a while |
01:03.51 | L4m3r | my forums collapsed on Christmas Eve |
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01:05.18 | L4m3r | I have a vague idea of how one could mod the code to do it, but it'd be tough to modify every user call |
01:06.10 | A_Meteorite | I just thought I would get this in, I haven't looked at any code for awhile...: http://75.15.144.246/vanilla/ |
01:06.30 | L4m3r | now, what you could maybe do would be to just use a different DB table for users and make the corresponding changes, and disable the forum's integrated registration |
01:07.38 | L4m3r | really, the problem with vBulletin is that it's very tempting to just integrate your whole website into it |
01:07.49 | L4m3r | because it's not a hard thing to do :P |
01:09.37 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, we need to see about geting rpg and dmp there rewards for the image submiter |
01:09.42 | JeffM2501 | and get the last of the bugs fixed |
01:11.07 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: now I wished I stayed up night and day doing that... :) |
01:11.31 | A_Meteorite | (for some reason my PHP hates me... it won't upload anything - had to do it on a remote server) |
01:12.25 | JeffM2501 | I think we got a good system between the 2 of them |
01:12.41 | A_Meteorite | I bet so, haven't tried it yet |
01:12.48 | JeffM2501 | and it showed some problems with the pay for code thing |
01:13.30 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: I'm sure something will come along that I can do soon or later ;) |
01:13.48 | A_Meteorite | *will come along sooner or later |
01:13.51 | A_Meteorite | can't type todady |
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01:14.21 | JeffM2501 | heh |
01:14.36 | JeffM2501 | an automated group system would be cool |
01:14.42 | JeffM2501 | where you reg up a server name |
01:14.48 | JeffM2501 | then can manage like 10 groups |
01:14.51 | JeffM2501 | using that name |
01:15.00 | JeffM2501 | then we don't have to do it manualy |
01:15.37 | A_Meteorite | I would need phpBB... |
01:15.47 | A_Meteorite | what version you using? |
01:15.53 | JeffM2501 | don't remember |
01:15.58 | A_Meteorite | heh |
01:16.00 | JeffM2501 | group stuff should all be the same tho |
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01:17.01 | L4m3r | vB has a thing that lets you pick a bunch of groups and forums and assign one set of perms to all of them |
01:17.25 | A_Meteorite | L4m3r: if I was in charge I would of made the switch already ;) |
01:17.30 | L4m3r | heh |
01:17.37 | A_Meteorite | that sounds pretty cool |
01:17.42 | A_Meteorite | except the license part |
01:17.47 | L4m3r | yeah, I know |
01:17.51 | JeffM2501 | we don't realy use the perms on groups |
01:17.58 | JeffM2501 | mostly I just want a way to let users make there own |
01:18.12 | L4m3r | yeah, that's harder |
01:18.28 | A_Meteorite | L4m3r: I bet their plugin API allows you to make groups |
01:18.34 | A_Meteorite | if not you could extend it |
01:18.48 | L4m3r | or you can just mod the PHP |
01:18.51 | RPG_ | JeffM2501: so you want a system that can add to the phpBB database group information? |
01:19.01 | JeffM2501 | Tim did the global login and groups thing, but kinda just droped the creation of them |
01:19.23 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, yes something where users reg a server name ( unique ) and then can have like 10 groups using that name |
01:19.36 | L4m3r | there's really not much of a point in writing plugins for your own use for vBulletin, they're meant for newbie forum owners to use :P |
01:19.37 | RPG_ | spec sheet? |
01:19.38 | JeffM2501 | and use the normal group tools to manage them |
01:19.43 | JeffM2501 | havne't made one |
01:19.57 | JeffM2501 | need to get you with DMP to finish the image thingy :) |
01:20.00 | JeffM2501 | and get you your prize |
01:20.02 | RPG_ | heh true |
01:20.05 | RPG_ | prize! yay |
01:20.08 | A_Meteorite | prize? mmm |
01:20.13 | A_Meteorite | I wonder what it could be.... |
01:20.13 | RPG_ | err what was the prize again :) |
01:20.30 | JeffM2501 | from me 25$ ether paypall or amazon gift cert |
01:20.39 | JeffM2501 | IIRC brlcad was to match |
01:20.42 | RPG_ | very nice |
01:21.29 | JeffM2501 | but yes, basicly something so that it dosn't take a person to make new groups |
01:21.38 | JeffM2501 | but also dosn't let somone fill the namespace |
01:21.57 | JeffM2501 | so make a limit of like 5 servers per user, and 10 groups per server |
01:22.06 | JeffM2501 | in the server.group format |
01:22.11 | RPG_ | hm... soudns a little confusing, you want the script to verify that the server is valid, and then add up to 10 groups for that server? |
01:22.18 | JeffM2501 | no |
01:22.23 | JeffM2501 | I want a user to go to a page |
01:22.30 | JeffM2501 | be able to register a server name |
01:22.36 | JeffM2501 | like add "badgerking" |
01:22.43 | A_Meteorite | JeffM2501: or we could migrate to something else and extend it properly without making weird hacks ;) |
01:22.44 | JeffM2501 | then that user is the "owner" of that server name |
01:22.50 | A_Meteorite | *you not we |
01:22.52 | JeffM2501 | then they can add up to 10 sub groups |
01:23.09 | JeffM2501 | A_Meteorite, you come up with a migration plan that dosn't loose data, then fine. |
01:23.09 | RPG_ | A_Meteorite: it doesnt' require a weird hack |
01:23.14 | RPG_ | you could do it without touching PHPBB, IIRC |
01:23.26 | JeffM2501 | it's not realy a hack, it's just a difrent interface to the bb |
01:23.28 | L4m3r | that sounds better as a standalone, yeah |
01:23.49 | JeffM2501 | just so it's not tied to the admin interface |
01:23.51 | L4m3r | actually, it would probably be easier to move the entire groups setup out of phpBB |
01:23.58 | JeffM2501 | you'd have to move the users too |
01:24.05 | L4m3r | and then hack phpBB to use it for forum access |
01:24.07 | JeffM2501 | I woudl think that's a harder thing |
01:24.20 | A_Meteorite | RPG_: something integrated as plugin sounds "cleaner" in my opinion |
01:24.34 | L4m3r | vBulletin plugins aren't clean at all :P |
01:24.39 | RPG_ | cleaner? cleaner to hack up the PHPBB code? |
01:24.53 | A_Meteorite | RPG_: maybe forums software that supports plugins then |
01:24.58 | L4m3r | and I doubt any other kind of PHP plugin is really clean |
01:25.11 | A_Meteorite | I've never looked at phpBB's code vB's code |
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01:25.36 | L4m3r | vBulletin plugins are meant for distributed hacks, for admins who are scared of modding code |
01:25.45 | A_Meteorite | oh, that sounds bad |
01:25.51 | L4m3r | they're a real headache when you try to mess with them |
01:26.00 | A_Meteorite | L4m3r: then why'd you suggest it... |
01:26.05 | L4m3r | they look clean but they're not |
01:26.15 | L4m3r | well, they're great for end-user stuff |
01:26.29 | L4m3r | but for writing things for your own private use, they're annoying |
01:26.49 | A_Meteorite | I see |
01:26.51 | L4m3r | especially when it's so easy to just tweak the PHP ;) |
01:27.08 | A_Meteorite | I've never found one true "killer" forum software |
01:27.16 | A_Meteorite | the best of both worlds: clean code and lots of features |
01:27.51 | JeffM2501 | well unless one of you is gonna buy one of those pay forums, it's kind of moot ;) |
01:28.01 | A_Meteorite | lol |
01:28.02 | RPG_ | PHPBB 3 is in beta |
01:28.12 | JeffM2501 | is it easy to mod? |
01:28.14 | A_Meteorite | hmmm... /me goes and gets phpBB |
01:28.24 | RPG_ | :-\ |
01:29.09 | L4m3r | I used phpBB 1 |
01:29.20 | L4m3r | phpBB2 is leaps and bounds ahead of it :P |
01:29.33 | A_Meteorite | I wonder if phpBB3 is the same :D |
01:29.43 | A_Meteorite | I've never installed phpBB myself |
01:32.03 | JeffM2501 | one would think it would not be too hard to have the phpbb user stuff just go thru an API to an external system |
01:32.18 | JeffM2501 | bigest problem we have is that we don't have anyone asigned to maintain it |
01:32.22 | L4m3r | isn't that sorta how it works now? |
01:32.26 | JeffM2501 | I don't know |
01:32.30 | JeffM2501 | I know little php |
01:32.46 | JeffM2501 | I just generaly know how it works, not the ins and outs |
01:32.52 | RPG_ | from what it appears, the list server script uses the phpbb users database table to do global logins |
01:32.56 | blast007 | the list server code scares me more than the phpBB code |
01:32.57 | L4m3r | yeah |
01:32.58 | A_Meteorite | RPG_: yeah |
01:33.00 | JeffM2501 | yeah it does |
01:33.06 | JeffM2501 | blast007, that is the truth |
01:33.14 | RPG_ | whats wrong with the LS? |
01:33.23 | blast007 | RPG_: have you looked at it? |
01:33.26 | A_Meteorite | everything |
01:33.26 | JeffM2501 | it would be cool if there was one common php page that did the user lookup that both compoinents shared |
01:33.31 | blast007 | the logic is hart to follow |
01:33.34 | blast007 | hard* |
01:34.08 | RPG_ | modding PHPBB to use a specialized user database would be HARD, IMHO |
01:34.14 | JeffM2501 | why? |
01:34.18 | blast007 | RPG_: there's a mod for it already |
01:34.23 | JeffM2501 | do they do direct user lookups everywhere? |
01:34.28 | JeffM2501 | or do they use one file? |
01:36.54 | A_Meteorite | I see some nice phpBB 3B1 features... |
01:37.11 | A_Meteorite | "Send to groups" |
01:37.56 | A_Meteorite | heh.. I'll just have to get it, not a phpBB wiz |
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02:05.52 | TheRedBaron | bah, I'd just like an empty barebones computer case, no motherboard, no power supply... |
02:07.23 | L4m3r | TheRedBaron: good cases don't come with power supplies |
02:07.25 | L4m3r | :P |
02:07.42 | TheRedBaron | l4m3r: exactly :) |
02:07.51 | L4m3r | and, conversely, good power supplies don't come with cases |
02:07.52 | TheRedBaron | I already have a power supply |
02:07.57 | TheRedBaron | I want a case to put it in :) |
02:08.01 | L4m3r | heh |
02:08.27 | L4m3r | directron, newegg, tigerdirect, zipzoomfly. Or a local computer fair if you're desperate. |
02:08.48 | L4m3r | any color/style/size preference? I could recommend a case for you :P |
02:10.11 | TheRedBaron | preference: cheap :) |
02:11.52 | L4m3r | how cheap? |
02:12.31 | L4m3r | I mean, I'm assuming that you're the handy type since you can weld, so, you can always mod a case :P |
02:12.42 | TheRedBaron | yes, I can weld :) |
02:12.58 | TheRedBaron | but would i want to? |
02:13.02 | TheRedBaron | :) |
02:13.23 | L4m3r | heh |
02:13.27 | L4m3r | not on a case |
02:13.36 | L4m3r | but I'm assuming you can paint and cut also :P |
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02:15.01 | JeffM2501 | for nefarious reasons surely ;) |
02:15.09 | TheRedBaron | L4m3r: so far, your assumptions are correct |
02:15.45 | TheRedBaron | L4m3r: I'm not the "bling" type guy - Functunality will always be first and formost - if it looks cool, I count it a bonus :) |
02:16.29 | L4m3r | heh |
02:16.44 | L4m3r | that's bad news then, because functional cases are expensive :P |
02:17.27 | TheRedBaron | bah |
02:17.30 | JeffM2501 | TheRedBaron, did you ever get a new machine? |
02:17.54 | purple_cow | wow, it's been a long time since i saw that nick |
02:18.15 | JeffM2501 | the elf? |
02:18.42 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: I never "get a new machine" I build them :) |
02:18.51 | JeffM2501 | that |
02:18.54 | JeffM2501 | tha's what I mean |
02:19.00 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: shopping :) |
02:19.04 | JeffM2501 | cool |
02:19.09 | JeffM2501 | find any good deals? |
02:20.06 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: yeah |
02:20.14 | TheRedBaron | Haven't bought anything yet - just lining things up |
02:20.15 | L4m3r | IMO, the only thing a case really "needs" is a front intake |
02:20.30 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, left work machine on doing a build, :( |
02:20.30 | L4m3r | anything else depends on what you're willing to put up with |
02:20.32 | TheRedBaron | building one off this motherboard - http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/09/16/asrock_939dual/ |
02:20.41 | spldart | I just made a front intake on my server ;-) |
02:20.42 | JeffM2501 | and the elf needs food very badly, saldy it's tv dinners |
02:20.56 | JeffM2501 | L4m3r, a top one helps more then a front |
02:21.15 | L4m3r | yeah, but a top one is a lot easier to add than a front one |
02:21.30 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: aww |
02:21.32 | JeffM2501 | heard bad things about asrock |
02:21.46 | L4m3r | I hear bad things about tom's hardware |
02:21.49 | L4m3r | lol |
02:21.52 | JeffM2501 | heh |
02:22.05 | JeffM2501 | TheRedBaron, what do you need dual sata for? |
02:22.22 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: I've heard mixed reviews, and its cheap enough for me, and it still allows me to use my old gfx card, but still allow for an expansion to PCIe |
02:22.46 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: I don't, i'm getting it for the agp and PCIe |
02:22.46 | JeffM2501 | well best of luck wiht it :) |
02:22.55 | TheRedBaron | thanks :) |
02:22.57 | JeffM2501 | that's the part I've heard problems wiht |
02:23.01 | L4m3r | dual SATA... heh |
02:23.08 | JeffM2501 | the intels are the bang for buck these days tho |
02:23.12 | L4m3r | I have eight :x |
02:23.22 | JeffM2501 | sata 2? |
02:23.27 | L4m3r | yeah |
02:23.33 | JeffM2501 | on the mobo? |
02:23.41 | L4m3r | yup. two sets of four |
02:23.46 | L4m3r | raid and everything... nf4 |
02:24.25 | JeffM2501 | nice board |
02:24.25 | L4m3r | I love enthusiast boards, they're ridiculous :D |
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02:24.44 | L4m3r | 2 gigabit LAN ports, SPDIF, all kinds of stuff I'll never use |
02:24.51 | JeffM2501 | heh |
02:24.56 | JeffM2501 | I use the spdif ;) |
02:25.01 | JeffM2501 | digital speakers |
02:25.02 | L4m3r | hehe |
02:25.25 | L4m3r | it will make a hell of a server when retired, that's for sure |
02:25.26 | JeffM2501 | just picked up an X-FI sound card |
02:26.18 | L4m3r | cool |
02:26.56 | L4m3r | sound card is something I can never get around to getting |
02:27.06 | JeffM2501 | onboard is good enough for most things |
02:27.07 | L4m3r | but with mere 2.1 speakers I don't think it matters |
02:27.16 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: from what i understand, its not dual sata |
02:27.23 | TheRedBaron | but SATA II |
02:27.33 | L4m3r | I see two headers on the board :P |
02:27.44 | JeffM2501 | yeah usualy you get more then one ;) |
02:27.50 | JeffM2501 | 2 is not many these days |
02:27.55 | L4m3r | yeah |
02:27.55 | JeffM2501 | 4 is common |
02:27.56 | TheRedBaron | like i said, in my understanding ;) |
02:28.00 | L4m3r | most chips have 4 |
02:28.19 | JeffM2501 | but realy check the reviews for your chip/mobo/video combination |
02:28.21 | TheRedBaron | oh cool |
02:28.25 | TheRedBaron | I just found an empty case |
02:28.32 | JeffM2501 | asrock has been known to do "wierrd" things with there agp slots |
02:28.32 | L4m3r | like, in your house? |
02:28.38 | TheRedBaron | yup |
02:28.39 | L4m3r | heh |
02:28.52 | L4m3r | some of those smaller brands are becoming better |
02:28.53 | JeffM2501 | ultra has a nice case/PS combo for like 70$ |
02:29.01 | L4m3r | ECS, for one |
02:29.05 | JeffM2501 | 500w ps with PCI-E contectors |
02:29.12 | TheRedBaron | links? :) |
02:29.20 | L4m3r | they're getting props for great compatibility with OSx86 |
02:29.22 | JeffM2501 | umm I just go to the store :) |
02:29.30 | TheRedBaron | what?!? :) |
02:30.21 | JeffM2501 | the ultra wizard |
02:30.36 | TheRedBaron | JeffM2501: do you know of any other boards that have AGP and PCIe? |
02:30.48 | JeffM2501 | some |
02:30.53 | JeffM2501 | mostly I know about the amd ones |
02:31.00 | JeffM2501 | you want to go intel? |
02:31.03 | L4m3r | Ultra has a neat-looking chieftec knockoff |
02:31.12 | JeffM2501 | yeah they rip from others, but they do good work |
02:31.15 | L4m3r | that cool grille goes all the way up into the door |
02:31.22 | TheRedBaron | most of my experience has been with amd |
02:31.22 | L4m3r | and it's got a gloss finish |
02:31.49 | JeffM2501 | what CPU you going with? |
02:33.35 | TheRedBaron | Athlon |
02:33.45 | TheRedBaron | or opteron if I can find them on ebay cheap :) |
02:33.54 | JeffM2501 | ummm then that mobo was an intel mobo |
02:33.58 | JeffM2501 | you can't put an AMD in that |
02:34.04 | JeffM2501 | and what kind of athalon |
02:34.16 | L4m3r | I only went with AMD for nf4... this was before the "intel edition" |
02:34.21 | TheRedBaron | I just showed you the review article |
02:34.28 | TheRedBaron | newegg has the amd mobo |
02:34.42 | JeffM2501 | oh my bad 939, didn't see that ;) |
02:34.46 | JeffM2501 | thought it said 930 ;) |
02:35.06 | brlcad | JeffM2501: I was thinking the same thing regarding those two just a few days ago |
02:35.24 | TheRedBaron | I wonder if my case is big enough |
02:35.41 | JeffM2501 | many opeterons are 940 |
02:35.44 | JeffM2501 | not 939 |
02:35.46 | JeffM2501 | so watch out |
02:35.57 | JeffM2501 | for gaming the operton dosn't get you much |
02:36.04 | JeffM2501 | save the money and go dual core |
02:38.43 | JeffM2501 | and realy mobos are so cheap, you can just get an AGP one now, then just pick up a cheap 40-50$mobo when you get a PCI-E card |
02:39.20 | JeffM2501 | how big a PS you gonna go with? |
02:45.36 | L4m3r | spldart: I want to try mini-itx :o |
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02:45.56 | L4m3r | I've got a ucla shower tote I want to try to cram a computer in |
02:46.36 | TheRedBaron | ISP issues :( |
02:46.43 | L4m3r | :\ |
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02:47.47 | spldart | Me to l4m3r but don't have teh resources... But I got almost everything I need to build a microatx version :) |
02:47.53 | L4m3r | heh |
02:48.01 | spldart | just mobo and case |
02:48.04 | L4m3r | here's a pic: http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1893/showertote6xj.jpg |
02:48.16 | L4m3r | I'll have to rig up a frame inside |
02:48.24 | L4m3r | and cut it up a bit |
02:48.37 | spldart | sweet idea :) |
02:48.42 | L4m3r | hehe |
02:48.47 | L4m3r | it will be a tight fit |
02:49.01 | L4m3r | but if it works it will be a nice conversation piece in the dorms |
02:49.13 | spldart | I can imagine :) |
02:49.31 | TheRedBaron | know anything about chief max power supplies? |
02:49.56 | L4m3r | stay away? |
02:50.13 | spldart | I've know experience with 'em |
02:50.18 | spldart | know = no |
02:50.38 | JeffM2501 | they are cheap |
02:50.45 | L4m3r | Antec, Enermax, Thermaltake are the generally trusted brands for PSUs |
02:50.52 | TheRedBaron | and you get what you pay for :) |
02:50.54 | spldart | I use Antec |
02:51.00 | JeffM2501 | I've had good luck with antec and ultra |
02:51.03 | L4m3r | not necessarily |
02:51.11 | spldart | Usually |
02:51.20 | L4m3r | there are some well-priced thermaltake power supplies |
02:51.45 | JeffM2501 | had to get an antec truecontrol 2 for this sucker :( |
02:51.48 | JeffM2501 | was not cheap |
02:51.52 | L4m3r | and some of the crappy ones are expensive because of excessive bling |
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02:52.09 | TheRedBaron | I'm looking at a 680watt chief max |
02:52.11 | L4m3r | like the Ultra X-connect... I've only heard bad things about those |
02:52.25 | JeffM2501 | the ones with the contectors suck |
02:52.33 | TheRedBaron | for $30 |
02:52.38 | JeffM2501 | that HAS to suck |
02:52.44 | L4m3r | lol |
02:52.45 | spldart | And not the good kind of suck |
02:52.51 | TheRedBaron | that is exactly why i'm asking :) |
02:53.02 | L4m3r | I paid $35~40 for a 430W thermaltake, and that was a DEAL |
02:53.02 | JeffM2501 | it'll probably work |
02:53.07 | L4m3r | ...to put things in perspective |
02:53.09 | JeffM2501 | but expect to to fail before a year |
02:53.31 | JeffM2501 | I paid 50$ for a decent ultra 500w |
02:53.38 | L4m3r | you can get a 350W for like $15 on sale |
02:53.45 | L4m3r | but it will suck |
02:53.53 | JeffM2501 | and 120$ for the current antec 550 |
02:54.00 | L4m3r | dayum |
02:54.03 | L4m3r | ouch |
02:54.11 | JeffM2501 | SLI |
02:54.18 | L4m3r | although I've seen $200 PSUs for 500 watts |
02:54.23 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
02:54.31 | L4m3r | but these were supposed to be super high-quality |
02:54.38 | JeffM2501 | needed one with 40+ amps per PCI-E channel |
02:54.43 | L4m3r | packed with all kinds of heat dissipators |
02:55.03 | spldart | Paid like 80 for my old 480 |
02:55.11 | L4m3r | heh |
02:55.22 | L4m3r | not sure I'd run a big SLi setup with this 430 |
02:55.30 | spldart | But it's been running 3 years nearly straight |
02:55.37 | JeffM2501 | it would probably run 6600's ok |
02:55.45 | JeffM2501 | they often don't even need a plug |
02:55.52 | L4m3r | 6600s don't even have plugs |
02:55.53 | L4m3r | heh |
02:56.07 | JeffM2501 | 7800GTXs on the other hand.... |
02:56.12 | L4m3r | but at that price, it's a damn good unit |
02:57.02 | TheRedBaron | sometimes, i hate egay |
02:57.07 | L4m3r | lol |
02:57.12 | JeffM2501 | be nice |
02:57.20 | TheRedBaron | its not worth sorting through the crap to find the deals sometimes |
02:57.24 | L4m3r | ebay is how I found the company I bought the black box from |
02:57.36 | L4m3r | ...and the black box is a pile of junk |
02:58.41 | TheRedBaron | like this - inconcievable eh? - http://cgi.ebay.com/Neon-Led-Black-PC-Mid-Case-Free-Led-Fans-600w-PS-D_W0QQitemZ6891690568QQihZ013QQcategoryZ51063QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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02:59.20 | L4m3r | you get enough surprises buying retail... if you're seriously considering ebay you must be hungry for punishment |
03:00.15 | TheRedBaron | i rarely take ebay serious |
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03:00.38 | L4m3r | also, TRB, that is like a classic computer fair case :P |
03:00.52 | L4m3r | if you want one, just go to a computer fair, no shipping cost |
03:00.52 | TheRedBaron | like I said, I rarely take ebay seriously |
03:01.08 | TheRedBaron | i actually find the LED lights annoying |
03:01.21 | L4m3r | you can use a switch |
03:01.54 | L4m3r | the pictures exaggerate the lights, I'm sure. those bubble tubes are powered by two LEDs, probably rather diffuse |
03:02.12 | spldart | heh |
03:02.24 | spldart | Got my wify a case with two bubble looking bars... |
03:02.27 | spldart | Blue led's |
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03:02.59 | spldart | Just checked out the link.. |
03:03.03 | L4m3r | I put 30 LEDs in the grille of my chieftec :x |
03:03.05 | spldart | That's almost exactly the case |
03:03.15 | L4m3r | but you don't see them directly, just a glow |
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03:03.50 | spldart | A caveat... the fan in the side cover made som much emi that it caused errors and crashes. I disconnected it till I can get a replacement fan of higher quality |
03:04.07 | L4m3r | lol |
03:05.28 | TheRedBaron | here's what I'm looking at - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1423569&CatId=0 |
03:05.53 | L4m3r | ah, the cheiftec knockoff :P |
03:06.24 | TheRedBaron | :) |
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03:08.13 | JeffM2502 | this PC is in that exact case |
03:08.17 | JeffM2502 | they sell it with a 500w PS for 80$ |
03:08.21 | JeffM2502 | 70 |
03:08.27 | L4m3r | here's one that's similar one that's bigger: http://directron.com/ult31824.html |
03:08.37 | L4m3r | er. |
03:08.42 | L4m3r | one that's similar and bigger |
03:10.09 | TheRedBaron | and more expensive, without a power supply :) |
03:10.21 | L4m3r | yes. |
03:10.26 | L4m3r | and GLOSS black :D |
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03:11.36 | TheRedBaron | spray paint is cheap :) |
03:11.42 | spldart | ick! |
03:11.50 | L4m3r | perfect gloss isn't easy with spraypaint |
03:11.52 | JeffM2502 | it's a computer, not a honda |
03:11.56 | spldart | LMAO |
03:12.31 | TheRedBaron | heh |
03:13.30 | JeffM2502 | what you don't have one now? ;) |
03:13.51 | L4m3r | no... |
03:13.52 | QuantumBeep | God made s***, Honda made it move. |
03:14.20 | L4m3r | Honda: Where the H in HP means "hamster" |
03:14.54 | L4m3r | not that me and my hyundai have any room to talk |
03:15.06 | spldart | Don't forget the Type R sticker l4m3r |
03:15.07 | L4m3r | blistering 70 horsepower... |
03:15.18 | spldart | It's worth 5 to 10 hp |
03:15.54 | TheRedBaron | L4m3r: 10 more horse power than I have :) |
03:15.55 | L4m3r | heh |
03:16.06 | blast007 | just wait until I can drive my PC around the house |
03:16.15 | L4m3r | TheRedBaron: you you live on top of a huge hill? lol |
03:16.54 | TheRedBaron | L4m3r: Heavens no |
03:16.58 | blast007 | L4m3r: no, but he has a wench on the front to get up hills |
03:17.00 | L4m3r | lucky you |
03:17.25 | L4m3r | I have to throw it into third gear and dodge the old people |
03:20.39 | TheRedBaron | heh |
03:21.09 | L4m3r | you know, the ones who drive big sedans with engines powerful enough to idle up the hill |
03:21.57 | L4m3r | whereas my lawn mower is annoying to drive if I lose momentum |
03:21.59 | im_fine_u | hello |
03:23.35 | TheRedBaron | L4m3r: i know exactly how you feel |
03:23.50 | TheRedBaron | btw - what about this? - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2145394&CatId=1845 |
03:24.07 | L4m3r | No. |
03:24.18 | L4m3r | no intake in front to cool your hard drives. |
03:25.33 | TheRedBaron | ... I can't spell tonight |
03:31.24 | spldart | My file/web/bzflag server needed cooling for all the harddrives so http://spldart.bakadigital.com:92/newserver.jpg |
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03:38.37 | TheRedBaron | i'm guessing a 450watt won't cut it? |
03:39.09 | JeffM2501 | with a 5700 |
03:39.11 | JeffM2501 | shoudl be fine |
03:46.00 | TheRedBaron | YES! - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1786790&CatId=0 |
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03:51.44 | spldart | NO! |
03:53.42 | TheRedBaron | :) |
03:54.29 | L4m3r | I've seen worse cases |
03:55.01 | L4m3r | http://directron.com/2010004.html |
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03:58.47 | TheRedBaron | time for me to go to bed |
03:58.49 | TheRedBaron | night all |
04:08.02 | spldart | I should go to bed but I'm fighting to repair a deb install I somehow wrecked severe :( |
04:09.35 | Tropican8 | repair a deb install, that's an oxymoron :-) |
04:14.03 | spldart | heh |
04:14.17 | spldart | But.. It's almost done |
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04:36.29 | spldart | night night |
04:47.45 | delusional | mac compile instructions http://pastebin.com/722663 |
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04:50.27 | delusional | as soon as I finish the CVS portion, I'm posting |
04:50.45 | Blue89 | how do I setup a bzflag bot for offline play on my server? |
04:51.38 | L4m3r | join from the command line |
04:51.50 | L4m3r | and add -solo x, where x is the number of bots you want |
04:51.59 | L4m3r | join your local server and bots will join with you :) |
04:52.10 | Blue89 | I installed on a laptop, but I can't play online if I'm not at my desk, wireless wde area networking lags out |
04:52.28 | Blue89 | -solo x on the client or the server? |
04:52.39 | delusional | client |
04:53.21 | delusional | start server normally, start client with command -solo x |
04:53.28 | delusional | join server |
04:54.20 | JeffM2501 | you can't do server side bots, just on the client, so you have to keep a client runing when ever you want the bots |
04:54.29 | delusional | replace x with a number, that's how many bots you'll get |
04:54.43 | JeffM2501 | and yourself |
05:03.25 | Blue89 | what is default port number for server? |
05:03.50 | blast007 | 5154 |
05:03.55 | Blue89 | ty |
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07:22.23 | [NP]Tangent | hey L4m3r, you around? |
07:22.34 | L4m3r | yeah |
07:22.55 | [NP]Tangent | your fairCTF plugin |
07:22.59 | [NP]Tangent | it's acting weird |
07:23.07 | [NP]Tangent | it won't enable CTF when teams are even |
07:23.15 | [NP]Tangent | I'm using Green and Blue teams, if that makes a difference |
07:25.27 | [NP]Tangent | know why? |
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07:33.27 | L4m3r | hm... |
07:33.36 | L4m3r | did someone play with the commands? |
07:33.46 | L4m3r | try /ctf auto |
07:34.32 | [NP]Tangent | ctf auto won't work right |
07:34.46 | [NP]Tangent | it'll set it to auto, but it won'tenable/disable correctly |
07:38.10 | [NP]Tangent | # Load plugins |
07:38.10 | [NP]Tangent | -loadplugin "/home/nullbzfl/bzfs/fairCTF.so,0.25:2:3" |
07:38.13 | [NP]Tangent | that's in my .conf file |
07:38.19 | [NP]Tangent | that should work, right? |
07:39.07 | [NP]Tangent | hm |
07:39.10 | [NP]Tangent | seems to work now |
07:39.17 | [NP]Tangent | but when we had 5vs5 |
07:39.19 | [NP]Tangent | it wasn't working |
07:43.16 | A-Delusion | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=84898#84898 |
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11:07.49 | ruskie | ~bzfquery viper.pimpi.org:5158 |
11:07.56 | ruskie | Manu, |
11:07.59 | ruskie | Pimpi, |
11:09.32 | SportChick | ~hapbir orchid |
11:09.34 | ibot | ACTION sings a variant of Happy Birthday (to avoid royalty fees) to orchid |
11:10.01 | ruskie | O.o |
11:10.12 | ruskie | happy bday orchid |
11:12.38 | Manu | ruskie: hi |
11:12.53 | ruskie | ~bzfquery viper.pimpi.org:5158 |
11:12.59 | ruskie | not working... |
11:14.46 | Manu | ~bzrfquery viper.pimpi.org:5158 |
11:14.52 | Manu | ~bzfquery viper.pimpi.org:5158 |
11:14.59 | Manu | :) |
11:15.00 | ruskie | weeee |
11:15.57 | Manu | orchid: hapy birthday |
11:19.16 | gsnedders | orchid: happy b'day |
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12:35.20 | ruskie | :) |
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14:31.27 | TheRedBaron | that was a massive split |
14:31.27 | *** topic/#bzflag by brlcad -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is 2.1 UNSTABLE, use for new commits || Today is bzgirl's birthday! |
14:31.43 | brlcad | only massive to you as you were on the smaller side ;) |
14:31.54 | TheRedBaron | it was just me an zongo in her |
14:31.58 | TheRedBaron | *here |
14:32.26 | Birdie | and me! |
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14:38.26 | menotume | hi hi :) |
14:39.19 | menotume | :) |
14:39.23 | brlcad | sober yet? |
14:39.27 | Mr_Molez | me ? never |
14:39.32 | Birdie | wb menotume |
14:39.34 | brlcad | no menotume |
14:39.39 | menotume | almost :) |
14:39.42 | brlcad | :) |
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14:39.55 | TheRedBaron | menotume: ping ;) |
14:40.15 | menotume | haha |
14:40.21 | TheRedBaron | j/k :-D |
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15:06.08 | I_Died_Once | anyone here ever hear of the name "Young Goodman Brown" ??? |
15:06.58 | I_Died_Once | Wasn't that one of Spoogebob's many alias' ??? |
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16:36.44 | paulifer | hello |
16:37.05 | paulifer | hi |
16:37.23 | paulifer | hallo |
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16:39.01 | paulifer | <PROTECTED> |
16:39.07 | im_fine_u | hi |
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16:40.14 | Gnurdux | hi TimRiker |
16:40.36 | cosmos | heh |
16:40.38 | Gnurdux | whos bzgirl brlcad ? |
16:40.44 | cosmos | now he is using literary names? |
16:40.50 | cosmos | must be a school kid |
16:40.57 | paulifer | <PROTECTED> |
16:41.07 | im_fine_u | hi Gnu |
16:41.23 | cosmos | using a hawthorne character, i kind of like it |
16:41.25 | Gnurdux | heya |
16:41.53 | paulifer | I had sex with a guy |
16:42.31 | I_Died_Once | ... |
16:42.39 | I_Died_Once | How much did that cost ya? |
16:42.59 | paulifer | nothin |
16:43.43 | I_Died_Once | pro-bono ? |
16:43.43 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: kierra |
16:44.15 | paulifer | i used viagra dipshit |
16:44.23 | JeffM2501 | paulifer, language please |
16:44.30 | cosmos | ok... |
16:44.31 | JeffM2501 | this is not the place for talk like that |
16:44.34 | paulifer | sorry |
16:44.43 | Mr_Molez | heh |
16:44.47 | Gnurdux | lol |
16:44.51 | im_fine_u | lol |
16:44.57 | I_Died_Once | this is a faggotry free channel |
16:45.05 | JeffM2501 | I_Died_Once, same to you |
16:45.20 | im_fine_u | freenode blocked all pms? |
16:45.26 | JeffM2501 | no, you have to reg |
16:45.37 | paulifer | how do you register? |
16:45.45 | JeffM2501 | / msg nickserv help |
16:55.58 | cosmos | who is that guy |
16:57.22 | JeffM2501 | nice |
16:57.24 | JeffM2501 | some idiot |
16:57.35 | Mr_Molez | nice guy :P |
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16:59.36 | paulifer | <PROTECTED> |
16:59.41 | JeffM2501 | byb bye |
16:59.47 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!n=paulifer@ool-457701c7.dyn.optonline.net] by JeffM2501 |
16:59.47 | *** kick/#bzflag [paulifer!n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
16:59.54 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
17:00.00 | DTRemenak | heh, beat me to it |
17:01.06 | JeffM2501 | well I can't have you sully youself with the shame of denying people there free speach, I've allready done it so I'll take one for the team. |
17:01.11 | cosmos | let me make sure that ip range is banned on hepcat |
17:01.41 | DTRemenak | free speech...pft. this is not a public forum, they can take their free speech somewhere else. |
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17:01.55 | paulagain | back |
17:02.03 | cosmos | 69.119.1.199 |
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17:02.13 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@*.dyn.optonline.net] by JeffM2501 |
17:02.13 | *** kick/#bzflag [paulagain!n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
17:02.24 | JeffM2501 | just shoot the load for a bit |
17:02.45 | cosmos | heh |
17:02.54 | cosmos | the provider is located in Hicksville, NY |
17:02.58 | cosmos | nice city |
17:03.20 | JeffM2501 | probably mikeeusa |
17:03.24 | DTRemenak | heh |
17:03.31 | DTRemenak | naw, you'd know if it was him |
17:03.47 | Mr_Molez | could be me ;) |
17:03.50 | DTRemenak | by the "DEATH TO WOMEN'S RIGHTS" chant if nothing else |
17:04.16 | bryjen | is tor still blocked? |
17:04.52 | DTRemenak | yes |
17:04.57 | brlcad | bitter kid simply because a girl dumped his sorry arse.. |
17:05.06 | DTRemenak | or, maybe not...I think the hostmask format changed |
17:06.12 | gsnedders | who… is… tor? |
17:06.16 | brlcad | ~tor |
17:06.18 | ibot | methinks tor is a network of virtual tunnels that allows people and groups to improve their privacy and security on the Internet. See tor.eff.org |
17:06.46 | brlcad | a way to be effectively anonymous ip-wise |
17:08.09 | DTRemenak | bryjen: *!*@*.session.tor is banned. I think it should be *!*@tor/session/* now, but I'm not sure. |
17:08.40 | gsnedders | brlcad: then who is the bitter kid? :P |
17:09.01 | brlcad | hmm? |
17:09.11 | gsnedders | brlcad: "bitter kid simply because a girl dumped his sorry arse.." |
17:09.23 | brlcad | mikeeusa |
17:10.01 | brlcad | you can read up on his threads prior and post to some "incident" with a girl |
17:10.16 | brlcad | ever since, he's been on an anti-women's rights rant |
17:10.24 | brlcad | in whatever forum he can get |
17:11.06 | gsnedders | and threads where? |
17:11.33 | JeffM2501 | this isn't the place to promote his site ;) |
17:12.32 | DTRemenak | and he hopes that we all die in a car crash :) |
17:12.38 | DTRemenak | nice guy really ;) |
17:12.52 | brlcad | heh |
17:17.28 | I_Died_Once | I've done so much... what exactly is it we're talking about |
17:17.54 | gsnedders | I_Died_Once: look at the previous thing you said here |
17:18.57 | I_Died_Once | Well, I dont wanna read about man-sex and such in here |
17:19.05 | I_Died_Once | this aint that kind of channel |
17:19.42 | gsnedders | and I for one didn't interpret it as meaning that. |
17:19.53 | I_Died_Once | that guy had said he had him some.... |
17:20.00 | I_Died_Once | s'ok, nm |
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17:21.57 | gsnedders | and also your comment about how much it cost him… |
17:21.57 | gsnedders | orchid: /me wishes you again |
17:21.57 | TheRedBaron | ~hapbir orchid |
17:21.59 | ibot | ACTION sings a variant of Happy Birthday (to avoid royalty fees) to orchid |
17:22.07 | orchid | heh |
17:22.29 | Tropican8 | yes, you know that's why resturants make up their own songs |
17:22.38 | I_Died_Once | anytime someone says they "got some" its my joke-on-tap to imply it was paid for |
17:23.00 | I_Died_Once | gotta go to town, i'll be away |
17:25.23 | DTRemenak | ~birthday orchid |
17:25.24 | ibot | ACTION Happy Birthday to you, Happy birthday to you!, HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEEEAARR orchid, Happy Birthday toooo yoooou! |
17:25.45 | DTRemenak | guess ibot has to pay them royalty fees after all ;) |
17:26.11 | bryjen | ~lart the RIAA |
17:26.30 | gsnedders | :D |
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17:28.00 | JeffM2501 | happy birday :) |
17:28.05 | JeffM2501 | birth day even |
17:28.18 | orchid | aww |
17:28.43 | JeffM2501 | lost all the music :( |
17:28.52 | orchid | ugh |
17:29.31 | orchid | how'd that happen? |
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17:32.50 | DTRemenak | you don't keep backups? |
17:34.23 | SportChick | ~hapbir orchid! |
17:34.25 | ibot | ACTION sings a variant of Happy Birthday (to avoid royalty fees) to orchid! |
17:34.25 | JeffM2501 | yes and no |
17:34.43 | JeffM2501 | we were in the process of redoing the machine to have a backup drive |
17:34.48 | JeffM2501 | when it went poop |
17:34.58 | JeffM2501 | I have backups of most of my data |
17:35.02 | JeffM2501 | as do other people |
17:35.04 | JeffM2501 | but one guy dosn't |
17:35.13 | JeffM2501 | and we had been telling him for months to get one |
17:36.08 | JeffM2501 | but I do have the bzg folder backed up ;) |
17:36.16 | SportChick | hehe |
17:36.34 | JeffM2501 | it is some of the better music |
17:37.12 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
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17:38.23 | Gnurdux | ~lart ibot |
17:38.29 | Gnurdux | WHAT? |
17:38.52 | TheRedBaron | ibot isn't a masochist |
17:39.01 | Gnurdux | lol |
17:40.41 | DTRemenak | he is, however, a sadist |
17:40.47 | TheRedBaron | yup |
17:41.06 | Gnurdux | ~spank ibot |
17:41.08 | ibot | ACTION bends ibot over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on ibot's pasty white buttocks. |
17:42.00 | L4m3r | ibot is a contortionist eh? |
17:43.02 | Gnurdux | TimRiker must've made a bug in spank.pl |
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18:07.53 | S1gn | hi |
18:09.03 | S1gn | I have some proposal - to change sampling rate of *.wav files to 44100, it should work with alsa's dmix then |
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18:10.38 | brlcad | JeffM2501: got your priv msg, it's likely due to a phpbb bug that bzgirl encountered |
18:10.51 | brlcad | it wiped out her account and possibly her groups too |
18:10.54 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, ok, just figured I should forwared it on |
18:11.09 | JeffM2501 | I got no acces to any of that stuff anymore thankfully ;) |
18:11.26 | DTRemenak | S1gn: bzflag's own mixer can't handle other sampling rates. patches are welcome to fix that. |
18:11.30 | brlcad | i would imagine that the sql error is simply because the group doesn't exist any more |
18:11.38 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
18:11.45 | S1gn | DTRemenak: ah |
18:11.48 | JeffM2501 | zombie group |
18:11.49 | brlcad | ahh |
18:12.00 | brlcad | something like that |
18:12.13 | JeffM2501 | then that means it's shotgun time ;) |
18:12.13 | brlcad | ah ha! |
18:12.14 | S1gn | :) |
18:12.19 | JeffM2501 | hmmmmm |
18:12.40 | JeffM2501 | heh |
18:12.53 | DTRemenak | ahh |
18:24.29 | SportChick | hehe, brlcad |
18:24.34 | SportChick | I hope you had some sushi with that sake |
18:25.48 | JeffM2501 | sake only lunches are the best |
18:25.49 | JeffM2501 | for about an hour |
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19:21.30 | [NP]Tangent | man |
19:21.37 | [NP]Tangent | _skyColor darkred |
19:21.44 | [NP]Tangent | and _mirror "black 0.6" |
19:21.47 | [NP]Tangent | go really good together |
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19:43.34 | |zongo| | JeffM2501, ping |
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21:10.03 | [NP]Tangent | is there a really dark blue I can set the sky color to? |
21:10.20 | Gnurdux | [NP]Tangent, make your own |
21:10.35 | Gnurdux | "0 0 55" |
21:10.39 | [NP]Tangent | ah |
21:10.43 | [NP]Tangent | didn't know you could do that |
21:10.44 | [NP]Tangent | thanks |
21:10.55 | Gnurdux | /set _skyColor "0 0 55" |
21:12.22 | [NP]Tangent | <PROTECTED> |
21:12.27 | [NP]Tangent | that made a cool color |
21:12.27 | [NP]Tangent | :P |
21:12.37 | JeffM2501 | yeah its' not 0 to 255 Gnurdux |
21:12.40 | JeffM2501 | it's 0 to 1 |
21:12.42 | Gnurdux | ah |
21:12.44 | Gnurdux | lol |
21:13.01 | Gnurdux | yea gl is liek that too i think |
21:13.02 | JeffM2501 | read... THEN speak ;) |
21:13.13 | [NP]Tangent | haha, thanks Jeff |
21:15.44 | JeffM2501 | gl is |
21:15.55 | JeffM2501 | hence why we are like it ;) |
21:16.09 | [NP]Tangent | why can't we just use Hex codes |
21:16.10 | [NP]Tangent | :P |
21:16.16 | [NP]Tangent | 000022 |
21:16.19 | JeffM2501 | actualy you may be able to |
21:16.25 | JeffM2501 | the parser supports a number of them |
21:16.30 | JeffM2501 | don't recall all tho |
21:16.36 | JeffM2501 | if not, code it up |
21:16.47 | a_temp_dist | orange is now known as fe8f00 |
21:17.08 | orange_away | hehehe |
21:17.11 | [NP]Tangent | nope |
21:17.13 | orange_away | ~orange |
21:17.14 | ibot | [orange] not apple, or 600nm, or the strong silent type, or special |
21:17.14 | [NP]Tangent | didn't work |
21:17.17 | [NP]Tangent | oh well |
21:17.24 | [NP]Tangent | ~tangent |
21:17.26 | ibot | i guess tangent is mailto:jim@secret.org.uk or the creator and maintainer of Intimate Linux, or idle alot of the time. |
21:17.26 | JeffM2501 | then there is an enhancement for ya to do ;) |
21:17.36 | [NP]Tangent | eh |
21:17.44 | [NP]Tangent | Jeff, I already thought of my own enhancement |
21:17.48 | [NP]Tangent | unrelated to sky colors |
21:18.01 | JeffM2501 | who says you can only have one ;) |
21:18.06 | [NP]Tangent | the Shoot-Someone-in-X-Seconds-or-Die mod |
21:18.11 | [NP]Tangent | er |
21:18.12 | [NP]Tangent | flag |
21:18.40 | JeffM2501 | yeah but the color thing would be able to be put into the main |
21:18.48 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
21:18.59 | [NP]Tangent | hm |
21:19.12 | [NP]Tangent | that shoot-someone-in-x-seconds thing would be a fun addition to rabbit hunt |
21:19.25 | [NP]Tangent | rabbit gets n seconds to shoot x players |
21:19.32 | [NP]Tangent | and if he succeeds, he stays rabbit |
21:19.36 | [NP]Tangent | if he fails, he blows up |
21:19.39 | JeffM2501 | you'd have to verify with tim, but in general he's been against such changes, as they add complexity |
21:20.04 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
21:20.09 | [NP]Tangent | I usually don't play RH anyways |
21:20.12 | [NP]Tangent | I'm a big CTF fan |
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22:39.40 | spldart | Jeff? |
22:39.48 | JeffM2501 | yes |
22:40.14 | spldart | I was wondering if you could change my ip on spldart.bakadigital.com... |
22:40.24 | JeffM2501 | sure |
22:40.35 | spldart | RR did a magor rework of the local system and I'm now 68.201.209.199 |
22:40.40 | JeffM2501 | ok |
22:40.46 | spldart | Thanks :-) |
22:40.52 | JeffM2501 | well while we are changing it, do you mind changing to another base domain name? |
22:41.01 | spldart | sure |
22:41.04 | JeffM2501 | I will not be keeping baka past the end of the year |
22:41.08 | spldart | okies |
22:41.15 | spldart | What will it be now? |
22:41.25 | JeffM2501 | opencombat.net |
22:41.30 | spldart | oooOOOooo |
22:41.33 | spldart | I like it :) |
22:41.43 | JeffM2501 | it sounds cooler then the baka ;) |
22:41.49 | spldart | Yes it does. |
22:42.09 | JeffM2501 | it's ceated |
22:42.19 | spldart | I'm going to take this time to run update and reboot my server |
22:42.25 | spldart | thanks Jeff :) |
22:42.29 | JeffM2501 | sure |
22:46.03 | spldart | Tested and working :-D |
22:46.08 | JeffM2501 | cool |
22:47.06 | JeffM2501 | mostly just figured that a name with "combat" in it made more sense for a game. |
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22:48.01 | spldart | Your right there... esp for these kinds of games. And it's so way guy cool :) |
22:48.37 | spldart | My brother is goin to be jelous of the domain name hehehe |
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22:53.08 | JeffM2501 | I wanted to get org but it was taken :( |
22:53.34 | spldart | why the preference of .org over .net? |
22:54.57 | JeffM2501 | cus it was suposed to be for a free game |
22:55.03 | JeffM2501 | and it's not realy a "network" |
22:56.13 | spldart | ah |
22:56.23 | JeffM2501 | .com has been parked |
22:56.32 | JeffM2501 | .org is in the process of expiring |
22:56.35 | JeffM2501 | but can't be taken yet |
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22:59.42 | spldart | Ahhhhhhhhhhh... I feel everything is right again... My bzfs's are running... :-) |
22:59.53 | spldart | Interesting on teh suffixes |
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