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| 02:28.47 | trepan | just had my first crash with this machine, rather pleasing |
| 02:29.05 | trepan | journalling fs's rock |
| 03:00.09 | PrezKennedy | totally! |
| 03:12.13 | trepan | ... and GL_TEXTURE_1D for no good reason |
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| 12:35.49 | LePoulpe303 | anyone awake ? |
| 12:36.19 | BzFire | yes |
| 12:37.34 | LePoulpe303 | i'm alone on DUB server , if you want a moving target practice session :) |
| 12:37.50 | LePoulpe303 | i sdon't want to jump today |
| 12:38.30 | LePoulpe303 | what is your own server address BzFire ? |
| 12:40.09 | BzFire | ducati-style.bzflag.org |
| 12:40.39 | BzFire | sorry I can't I am busy trying to work out why bzflag is running so jumpy |
| 12:40.54 | LePoulpe303 | np ;) |
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| 12:55.16 | orion_fr_24 | BzFire: could you send me a copy of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file |
| 13:10.13 | orion_fr_24 | BzFire: check that https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=2884751 |
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| 14:02.01 | craigbass1976 | Can someone point me in the direction of some Linux install instructions? I can't seem to find them on the bzflags site |
| 14:02.27 | learner | depends on your distribution of linux |
| 14:02.59 | craigbass1976 | Fedora |
| 14:05.21 | learner | and you downloaded what? |
| 14:05.26 | learner | compiling from source? |
| 14:07.24 | craigbass1976 | I downloaded bzflag-2.0.4.20050930-i386-Opkg.tar.gz and I'm running Fedora 4. I've untarred the package, but didn't see any readme's. I could have missed one. |
| 14:08.12 | craigbass1976 | ./Install ? |
| 14:10.27 | learner | that's an Oblisk package |
| 14:11.14 | learner | "our" last binary for fedora was 7.0.0, there's an rpm on http://sf.net/projects/bzflag |
| 14:11.27 | learner | i'm not incredibly familiar with oblisk packages |
| 14:11.41 | learner | the download page on the wiki had a link to follow |
| 14:12.27 | learner | i.e. follow the oblisk link on http://bzflag.org/wiki/Download where you downloaded it from, or e-mail that guy -- it's a user-provided binary |
| 14:14.13 | craigbass1976 | All right. Thanks |
| 14:15.38 | craigbass1976 | Ooh, actually I was able to yum install it. Well, I'm on dial up so I didn't install it, but I'm able. I didn't think it would be in any repositories. |
| 14:16.00 | craigbass1976 | Very nice. See you later. |
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| 14:49.34 | {janis} | hi all |
| 15:05.54 | brlcad | yum |
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| 18:39.05 | menotume | got a strange problem with a particular user with the listserver |
| 18:39.29 | menotume | when his client gets a token, it reports one ip, when it checks the token, it uses a different ip |
| 18:39.33 | menotume | any ideas ? |
| 18:40.37 | JeffM2501 | some ISPs do that |
| 18:40.42 | JeffM2501 | usualy with a proxy |
| 18:40.55 | JeffM2501 | or he's behind some sort of uberNAT |
| 18:41.15 | JeffM2501 | basucly game stuff goes thru a difrent route then web stuff |
| 18:41.27 | JeffM2501 | have them try the port 81 thing |
| 18:43.28 | menotume | we did the port 81 thing :) |
| 18:43.39 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 18:43.47 | menotume | he says no proxy that he knows of |
| 18:43.52 | menotume | yes, odd |
| 18:44.01 | JeffM2501 | then it's proxying that too |
| 18:44.16 | JeffM2501 | or it's just one wierd ass route |
| 18:44.31 | menotume | ya, ips are completely different |
| 18:44.41 | menotume | i put temp trace code in the list server |
| 18:44.58 | JeffM2501 | the web one is probably there central proxy |
| 18:47.34 | menotume | ya, both IPs resolve to same ISP in Spain |
| 18:47.55 | JeffM2501 | what is the SSL port? |
| 18:48.00 | JeffM2501 | 443 or something? |
| 18:48.38 | JeffM2501 | cus I think that's active on the server too |
| 18:48.45 | JeffM2501 | could try that |
| 18:49.07 | blast007 | https://my.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST |
| 18:49.29 | JeffM2501 | same as :443 |
| 18:49.39 | blast007 | right |
| 18:50.02 | JeffM2501 | they may not proxy SSL |
| 18:54.22 | menotume | ahh |
| 18:55.03 | JeffM2501 | basilcy you gotta find a way to get to the list server the same way the game does |
| 18:56.31 | menotume | yep |
| 18:56.49 | menotume | i had him go to a webpage that shows IPs |
| 18:57.02 | menotume | the ip matched the ingame (not http) IP |
| 18:57.10 | menotume | i'll follow up with him later |
| 19:01.16 | conanhome | BzFire: hi |
| 19:01.36 | conanhome | BzFire: blazer told you were looking for me |
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| 19:07.17 | conanhome | BzFire: do you read me at pm? |
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| 19:09.11 | BzFire | no |
| 19:09.18 | conanhome | BzFire: strange |
| 19:09.24 | BzFire | try again |
| 19:09.24 | conanhome | BzFire: i read you |
| 19:09.35 | conanhome | BzFire: now? |
| 19:09.39 | BzFire | no |
| 19:09.44 | conanhome | !!!! |
| 19:09.45 | conanhome | bah |
| 19:10.10 | BzFire | ok well basically |
| 19:10.25 | BzFire | i have made a php interface to my server |
| 19:10.27 | BzFire | so |
| 19:10.36 | conanhome | BzFire: oh, cool |
| 19:10.40 | BzFire | you can edit files upload files/download files |
| 19:10.43 | BzFire | also |
| 19:10.51 | BzFire | there is a script so you can start the server |
| 19:10.52 | conanhome | BzFire: you can send me the necesary stuff by mail |
| 19:10.54 | BzFire | so in bzflag |
| 19:11.01 | BzFire | you can shutdown the server |
| 19:11.05 | conanhome | BzFire: a pitty pm doesn't work... |
| 19:11.08 | BzFire | and in the script you can start it |
| 19:11.18 | conanhome | BzFire: yeah, blazer told me that |
| 19:11.21 | BzFire | all i need from you is a password for your account |
| 19:11.26 | BzFire | ok |
| 19:11.27 | conanhome | BzFire: wait! i know what's happening |
| 19:11.36 | BzFire | i will e-mail you with a temporary password |
| 19:11.45 | BzFire | keep it if you want |
| 19:12.02 | BzFire | it will mean less work for me :) |
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| 19:17.59 | orange | menotume: doesn't the token checking get done by the server, not the client? |
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| 19:35.34 | blast007 | orange: when the client requests a token, the list server stores the IP address of the client |
| 19:35.52 | menotume | orange: right |
| 19:36.05 | blast007 | the server also sends the IP to the list server when checking the token, and the list compares the two IPs |
| 19:36.12 | menotume | and, the servers passes the client's ip on |
| 19:36.39 | orange | perhaps one of those anonymizing proxies, menotume? |
| 19:36.49 | menotume | no, it wasn't |
| 19:37.05 | menotume | both IPS belong to the same IP |
| 19:37.19 | menotume | errrr, other way around :) |
| 19:38.21 | blast007 | so there was two different IPs? |
| 19:39.00 | menotume | yes |
| 19:39.31 | blast007 | so it could still be a proxy of some kind |
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| 20:42.20 | SportChick_away | orchid: vbz party on 59998 |
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| 21:25.18 | fhffhqvb | i see things haven't changed. bamf is still a nazi scumbag liar as usual and i don't see why dub has given him any power whatsoever on their server. that's all i have to say. |
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| 21:27.23 | orange | so, did anybody get the drive-by insulters IP? |
| 21:27.50 | orange | I'd be interested to cross-reference it |
| 21:29.25 | BearPerson | hmm |
| 21:29.31 | orchid | orange: fhffqvb? |
| 21:29.53 | orchid | that was sussudio |
| 21:35.55 | Tupone | hi orchid |
| 21:36.02 | orchid | ciao Tupone |
| 21:44.46 | JeffM2501 | wow, he's a bitter ass isn't he? |
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| 21:46.10 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@unaffiliated/sussudio] by JeffM2501 |
| 21:47.19 | JeffM2501 | why does he even still play if all he does is get pissed? |
| 21:47.27 | orchid | dunno |
| 21:47.29 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 21:47.40 | Tupone | hmm, I don't think he deserve that, for just one leave message :/ |
| 21:47.53 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, it's not the only time he's done that |
| 21:48.03 | Tupone | I know is a bit bitter sometime |
| 21:48.07 | JeffM2501 | and he damn well knows the rules of this channel |
| 21:48.34 | JeffM2501 | if he wants to come in here for real talk, he can ask about the ban and if he's civil it will gladly be removed |
| 21:48.41 | orchid | bamf never uses irc so I don't see his point |
| 21:49.04 | JeffM2501 | I haven't seen him come here for any other reason other then to rant and curse in the last year |
| 21:49.31 | JeffM2501 | he may disagree with choices people make, and that's fine, but he can't just come in here and spout that crap |
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| 21:49.55 | Tupone | well, he is not spamming, is not giving big problem to whatever now, except the problem he had with chiko, but that are at least 1 year ago :/ |
| 21:50.18 | JeffM2501 | he's never understood ( or cared ) that this channel or the "comunity" has no controll over serves. |
| 21:50.27 | JeffM2501 | spaming is only one reason for a ban |
| 21:50.29 | JeffM2501 | there are others |
| 21:50.41 | test | test |
| 21:50.46 | blast007 | test failed |
| 21:50.50 | test | c'est moi |
| 21:50.51 | JeffM2501 | I feel that it is the best way to let him know that he can't just come here in and say that stuff |
| 21:51.51 | JeffM2501 | he dosn't come here for any other reason, so it just prevents his outbursts |
| 21:52.18 | JeffM2501 | maybe he should try decaf too |
| 21:52.21 | Tupone | he has been banned for a year ... and he has never behaved like, e.g. , one good friend of us :) |
| 21:52.38 | Tupone | neither here, neither in game |
| 21:52.47 | JeffM2501 | in game I don't know his actions |
| 21:52.57 | JeffM2501 | here he's allways been one to rile people up |
| 21:53.14 | test | DB? |
| 21:53.16 | JeffM2501 | he has been baned before, his ban was removed, he went right back to profane ways |
| 21:53.17 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:53.29 | JeffM2501 | again he shows that all he wants to do here is rant |
| 21:53.33 | JeffM2501 | and that is not what this place is for |
| 21:53.41 | JeffM2501 | I understand the need to vent and rant |
| 21:53.45 | JeffM2501 | that's why I have a blog :) |
| 21:54.34 | Tupone | I don't get why removing ban on worst people and get on a bad mooded guy |
| 21:55.34 | BearPerson | the bans were probably old and moldy |
| 21:55.40 | JeffM2501 | ohh |
| 21:55.40 | blast007 | was the ban list just full? |
| 21:55.42 | JeffM2501 | the list was full |
| 21:55.45 | JeffM2501 | and those were REALY old |
| 21:55.47 | JeffM2501 | and generic |
| 21:56.10 | JeffM2501 | the people with those bans would have goten around them EASY if they wanted to |
| 21:56.17 | JeffM2501 | so I felt they were not realy needed anymore |
| 21:56.19 | JeffM2501 | to make room |
| 21:56.43 | JeffM2501 | I left like the cell ban |
| 21:56.44 | JeffM2501 | and others |
| 21:56.51 | JeffM2501 | ones that seem to have sticked |
| 21:56.54 | JeffM2501 | stuck |
| 21:57.19 | Tupone | perfect cell behaviour was 1000 times worst then sussudio |
| 21:57.25 | JeffM2501 | yup |
| 21:57.31 | JeffM2501 | and that is why cell has like 5 bans |
| 21:57.43 | JeffM2501 | and is baned from list server/ bb, etc.. |
| 21:58.17 | JeffM2501 | I'm not baning sus from any game stuff |
| 21:58.20 | JeffM2501 | just this one channel |
| 21:58.22 | JeffM2501 | tha'ts it |
| 21:59.16 | JeffM2501 | I don't think anyone here apriciates his comments here |
| 22:00.34 | JeffM2501 | what would you have me do about him? just say "ohhh... that susuidio.. gosh darn him...." |
| 22:00.51 | Tupone | his comment or is away message ? |
| 22:01.04 | JeffM2501 | I take offense at both |
| 22:01.16 | JeffM2501 | nether of them is approriate for his channel |
| 22:02.19 | Tupone | yep i know, but you know he will not come here either, with or without ban. He is not more an abitue' |
| 22:02.29 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:02.34 | JeffM2501 | it's more of a message to him |
| 22:02.36 | JeffM2501 | then anything else |
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| 22:34.07 | brlcad | heh, sussudio .. he hasn't had a temper tantrum in ages |
| 22:41.11 | Tupone | hi brlcad |
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| 23:24.48 | brlcad | howdy Tupone |
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| 23:51.20 | CallofHnor | Hello all people who hate my guts |
| 23:52.02 | JeffM2501 | who hates your guts? |
| 23:52.27 | CallofHnor | just wondering why everytime I make an apology on bzbb, using another computer and another name, it gets deleted along with the post! |
| 23:52.43 | JeffM2501 | because that's not what bzbb is for |
| 23:53.07 | JeffM2501 | it isn't about you apolgosing |
| 23:53.08 | CallofHnor | what if its under the General Chat (NOT THE BZ ONE) |
| 23:53.13 | JeffM2501 | it's about you playing nice with others |
| 23:53.21 | JeffM2501 | it's NOT what the forum is for |
| 23:53.34 | CallofHnor | some other guy did it too |
| 23:53.51 | CallofHnor | i didn't see his get deleted |
| 23:53.53 | JeffM2501 | then it shoulda been removed too |
| 23:53.59 | JeffM2501 | every case is difrent |
| 23:54.13 | CallofHnor | so I guess mine is bad then |
| 23:54.16 | JeffM2501 | you ahve found places to play that let you back on then? |
| 23:54.50 | CallofHnor | I have other computers, but I kinda temporarily retired |
| 23:55.00 | JeffM2501 | I didn't ask if you have other computers |
| 23:55.05 | JeffM2501 | or if you "retired" |
| 23:55.48 | CallofHnor | yes i have, but I can't use Call Of Honor, or say that I am coh |
| 23:56.03 | CallofHnor | then I just get banned, again. |
| 23:56.04 | JeffM2501 | and noone has complained about you or baned you on those servers? |
| 23:56.12 | JeffM2501 | using the other names? |
| 23:56.20 | CallofHnor | yes |
| 23:56.26 | JeffM2501 | that's good |
| 23:56.35 | JeffM2501 | and they are happy to have you play? |
| 23:56.49 | CallofHnor | no idea |
| 23:57.23 | JeffM2501 | you don't know the people you play with? |
| 23:57.43 | CallofHnor | no, no one from the 'old days' are on anymore |
| 23:58.05 | CallofHnor | or at least not at the moment, or they are gone |
| 23:58.23 | JeffM2501 | I mean in general |
| 23:58.36 | CallofHnor | no, i'm afraid not |
| 23:59.11 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10admin/master-bans.txt: remove call of honor's ban. |
| 23:59.17 | JeffM2501 | well, I don't want to see any complaints about you ok |
| 23:59.27 | JeffM2501 | just try to remember that people have feelings |
| 23:59.33 | CallofHnor | yes sir. *salutes* |
| 23:59.39 | JeffM2501 | and take it serious |
| 23:59.42 | JeffM2501 | not as a joke |
| 23:59.47 | JeffM2501 | like that |
| 23:59.55 | JeffM2501 | what are your Ips that are baned on the froums? |
| 23:59.58 | CallofHnor | I am completly aware of the fact |