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| 00:48.27 | BZBot | New news from gumatches: Dec 12 00:36 => T.B.O. (the better ones):9, [ForestForce]:2 |
| 00:53.53 | JeffM2501 | man nothing beats crawing around on the roof with electricity :) |
| 00:59.29 | Workaphobia | quick question: I seem to be using evdev for my joystick now instead of SDL like I was before my last distro update. How would I change that? |
| 01:01.42 | JeffM2501 | probably a config option |
| 01:02.44 | Workaphobia | in bzflag, or in sdl? I didn't see much in my bz config file |
| 01:03.18 | JeffM2501 | IIRC bzflag can use SDL or a couple other libs |
| 01:03.25 | JeffM2501 | sounds like this time you had the lib so it tried to use it |
| 01:03.38 | Tupone | Workaphobia: you did a kernel change for that |
| 01:03.52 | Workaphobia | ah, that makes sense. |
| 01:03.54 | Tupone | I think |
| 01:04.35 | Workaphobia | so is there an easy way to change it back? Not that there's so much of an advantage to using sdl, but I had a couple of mods that were specific to it |
| 01:05.18 | Tupone | did you make your kernel? |
| 01:05.53 | Workaphobia | No, it's from suse 10.1 |
| 01:10.50 | Tupone | you have to remove from the configure.ac the linux/input.h existence check. I guess is enough. Or removing the SDLPlatformFactory.cxx lines that are on the #if HAVE_LINUX_INPUT |
| 01:11.20 | Tupone | so you have to rebuild bzflag or your kernel |
| 01:11.40 | Workaphobia | heh, I'll build bzflag over the kernel. |
| 01:12.39 | Workaphobia | ok, I'll give that a try. Thanks. |
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| 01:24.15 | Mr_Molez | anyone that can register a player so they can play on gu match servers ? |
| 01:25.13 | Mr_Molez | menotume: ping |
| 01:27.45 | Mr_Molez | nevermind :P |
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| 02:18.49 | BZBot | New news from matches: Dec 12 02:13 => Bz Incorporated:8, The Barbarians:1 || Dec 12 02:13 => The Barbarians:5, Bz Incorporated:2 |
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| 02:25.00 | A_Meteorite | hey all :D |
| 02:25.27 | A_Meteorite | so glad I'm back... my ISP (SBC) decided to pull the plug on my DSL without telling me |
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| 03:19.06 | BZBot | New news from gumatches: Dec 12 02:57 => T.B.O. (the better ones):8, Insane Crazy Funsters:1 |
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| 03:49.14 | BZBot | New news from gumatches: Dec 12 03:37 => T.B.O. (the better ones):9, Insane Crazy Funsters:2 |
| 03:49.17 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: rework the hud to make more sense make the chatbox smarter ( uses screens ize )... || let images and quads be scaled when drawn with the util functions || X Y Z is as good as an array |
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| 03:54.08 | Roxport | is the whole Internet slow tonight, or just my connection? |
| 03:57.05 | blast007 | I'm getting 2.87Mbps of my 3Mbps max |
| 03:58.29 | Roxport | running apt-get update on deb box. noticed really slow. logged on winxp laptop. really slow internet cnxn (sbc dsl). |
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| 04:49.28 | BZBot | New news from gumatches: Dec 12 04:26 => T.B.O. (the better ones):12, Insane Crazy Funsters:1 |
| 05:19.35 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: show the last chat senders's avatar in a little window over the chat box then... |
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| 07:21.21 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: show the last chat senders's avatar in a little window over the chat box then... || rework the hud to make more sense make the chatbox smarter ( uses screens ize )... || let images and quads be scaled when drawn with the util functions || X Y Z is as good as an array || move fps counter to bottom over radar, it looks better allways show the last... || add the coolest self scaling chatbox window evvar || score, sh |
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| 07:27.11 | bz3672 | ere |
| 07:27.15 | bz3672 | qer |
| 07:27.16 | bz3672 | weqr |
| 07:27.18 | bz3672 | rtw |
| 07:27.19 | bz3672 | dsb |
| 07:27.23 | bz3672 | ?? |
| 07:27.32 | JeffM2501 | having fun? |
| 07:27.41 | bz3672 | whois fun ? |
| 07:27.57 | bz3672 | no more flood |
| 07:28.09 | bz3672 | keyboard is dead |
| 07:28.37 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:29.01 | bz3672 | bz3672^w^w^h |
| 07:29.09 | bz3672 | /kill bz3672 |
| 07:29.13 | purple_cow | tired cliche^w^w |
| 07:29.29 | learner | meh^h^h^h |
| 07:29.40 | JeffM2501 | wtf? |
| 07:30.46 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: in unix shells, control-w backspaces a word, control-h a character |
| 07:31.00 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
| 07:31.53 | purple_cow | about 10 years ago (maybe 15?) you'd see word^w in a chat program if someone had their terminal misconfigured and they typed something and then deleted it |
| 07:32.33 | learner | more frequent in 'talk' |
| 07:32.54 | learner | "most" of the time, there was something not configured well enough to do what one expected in talk :) |
| 07:33.35 | purple_cow | this is very true |
| 07:33.44 | learner | even back then it was a tired cliche |
| 07:33.51 | purple_cow | yep |
| 07:34.15 | learner | heh |
| 07:34.30 | learner | that's just crazy talk :) |
| 07:34.55 | purple_cow | yeah, but it had a fancy curses interface and everything |
| 07:36.55 | purple_cow | hey, not wearing shoes is your own fault |
| 07:37.05 | JeffM2501 | was it like IRC? |
| 07:37.09 | learner | met some random person from korea that way that talk'd me one day |
| 07:37.09 | JeffM2501 | or just per machine? |
| 07:37.16 | learner | we've been penpals for over 10 years now |
| 07:37.33 | learner | nah, not like irc |
| 07:37.50 | learner | it's real-time chat usually person to person, split text screen |
| 07:37.56 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 07:38.08 | learner | you see the other person type, typos and all |
| 07:38.21 | JeffM2501 | fun |
| 07:38.30 | JeffM2501 | IIRC ICQ works that way too |
| 07:38.32 | learner | i like it actually |
| 07:38.56 | learner | yeah, that's where icq borrowed the idea, not that it's anything groundbreaking |
| 07:39.15 | purple_cow | i remember when i figured out what "ICQ" meant |
| 07:39.21 | purple_cow | i was king of the world that day |
| 07:39.52 | learner | heh |
| 07:40.52 | learner | "I see Que", from TNG of course ;) |
| 07:40.58 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:41.10 | purple_cow | of course, i was like 11, so my sphere of experience was somewhat limited |
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| 07:42.07 | learner | now your sphere has been all borgified |
| 07:42.21 | learner | to beat that metaphor a little further with a dead horse |
| 07:43.08 | purple_cow | how pissed were you in "first contact" when they had that borg sphere come out? |
| 07:43.29 | purple_cow | i mean, it totally flew in the face of the whole "a cube of twisty passages, all alike" thing |
| 07:43.35 | learner | still haven't bothered to watch it yet |
| 07:43.46 | ruskie | purple_cow, guess you never watched voyager |
| 07:44.01 | purple_cow | ruskie: i saw a couple episodes and gave up |
| 07:44.14 | ruskie | well tons of borg stuff in voy :) |
| 07:44.17 | purple_cow | learner: you should! it's one of the best |
| 07:44.39 | purple_cow | ruskie: i don't care! after first contact the borg stopped being scary |
| 07:44.45 | ruskie | lol |
| 07:44.59 | purple_cow | though i *do* remember seeing a part of a voyager episode where they were using the borg to represent fascism |
| 07:45.00 | ruskie | acctually after voyager they ceased to be for the most part... |
| 07:45.27 | ruskie | you should watch voyager end game part I and II |
| 07:45.29 | purple_cow | which was hilarious, given that the borg were obviously communists |
| 07:45.47 | JeffM2501 | after they got the "time travel disease" all of star treck became booring |
| 07:45.59 | purple_cow | you'd think the writers could at least keep their metaphors straight |
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| 07:46.13 | ruskie | after s3 voy kinda sucked... |
| 07:46.23 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: time travel disease? |
| 07:46.34 | ruskie | I watched it just to get my fix of st... |
| 07:46.43 | JeffM2501 | when they started puting in time travel every time they ran out of ideas |
| 07:46.57 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: they did that in the first season of the original ;) |
| 07:46.57 | ruskie | yeah |
| 07:47.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah, but they used it sparingly |
| 07:47.12 | ruskie | yeah |
| 07:47.15 | JeffM2501 | it's ok every so often |
| 07:47.21 | purple_cow | except then, it was because their budget was running low and it was cheaper to just film it in the city |
| 07:47.25 | ruskie | ent was st's downfall |
| 07:47.30 | JeffM2501 | but comon.... tempral torpeedos? |
| 07:47.50 | ruskie | temporal shields... |
| 07:48.21 | learner | my fav of all the movies is still Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, time travel put to good use |
| 07:48.32 | JeffM2501 | well those batman shields on voager did look cool |
| 07:48.38 | ruskie | tng was imho THE best of all st... |
| 07:48.39 | JeffM2501 | yes 4 put it to fine use |
| 07:48.48 | ruskie | JeffM2501, that's ablative armour :) |
| 07:48.48 | JeffM2501 | that's when it should be used |
| 07:48.50 | JeffM2501 | when it's funny |
| 07:48.58 | JeffM2501 | ruskie, make it look like the batmobile |
| 07:48.59 | JeffM2501 | aka |
| 07:49.00 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 07:49.00 | ruskie | yup |
| 07:49.04 | ruskie | but it's imho great |
| 07:49.30 | ruskie | I just hope they get rid of braga&co if they ever plan to do any more st |
| 07:49.44 | ruskie | since those were the ppl responsible for the worst of st |
| 07:50.08 | purple_cow | i think they just need to abandon the franchise |
| 07:50.20 | JeffM2501 | enterprise showed it was dead |
| 07:50.30 | JeffM2501 | there is only one way I'm watching a new star trek show |
| 07:50.30 | ruskie | ent was dead when it started |
| 07:50.38 | JeffM2501 | and that involves the term Joss Weadon |
| 07:50.48 | ruskie | erm |
| 07:50.51 | _Manu_ | learner, my first tv serie was Lost in Space.. years ago ;) |
| 07:50.55 | purple_cow | i mean, hell, for the most part, it *wasn't* good, even back when it was good |
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| 07:51.42 | ruskie | I hate to admit it but most of st is just a soap in space with a few good moments... |
| 07:51.45 | purple_cow | TOS is entertaining because it was so campy, TNG had some good spots, DS9's couple politics seasons were good, and the rest was just terrible |
| 07:52.09 | ruskie | well there's always sg... |
| 07:52.12 | learner | _Manu_: I used to watch lost in space too.. saw just about every episode |
| 07:52.23 | learner | early 90's maybe late 80's |
| 07:52.32 | ruskie | hmm need to get lost in space.. |
| 07:52.39 | ruskie | as well as babylon 5... |
| 07:52.44 | learner | danger danger! |
| 07:53.03 | JeffM2501 | it's all about the new bsg |
| 07:53.08 | ruskie | gaahh |
| 07:53.11 | ruskie | can't stnad bsg |
| 07:53.19 | JeffM2501 | then you should sit for it :) |
| 07:53.22 | purple_cow | ruskie: yes, the new dr. who is awesome :) |
| 07:53.39 | ruskie | did they start with the new eps yet? |
| 07:53.59 | purple_cow | i don't think the next season starts until february |
| 07:54.07 | ruskie | ahh |
| 07:54.12 | purple_cow | but there's a christmas special coming up :) |
| 07:54.16 | ruskie | well atleast I've got sg:a till then... |
| 07:54.22 | ruskie | and sg-1 |
| 07:54.51 | purple_cow | gotta love the brits, who will do a christmas special for just about anything |
| 07:54.55 | ruskie | :) |
| 07:55.24 | purple_cow | i'm curious to see how david tennant does |
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| 07:59.45 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, this better? |
| 07:59.46 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/files/hosted/jeffm2501/mini-newhud.PNG |
| 08:01.12 | purple_cow | wow that's loading slowly |
| 08:01.19 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's my.b.o |
| 08:01.24 | JeffM2501 | so it's flooded |
| 08:04.57 | ruskie | hmmm that looks nice... |
| 08:06.52 | purple_cow | where'd the player list go? |
| 08:07.02 | JeffM2501 | that is a real in game shot |
| 08:07.08 | JeffM2501 | haven't implemented it yet |
| 08:07.13 | JeffM2501 | the other was a PS |
| 08:07.15 | purple_cow | certainly lots of polish and tweaking to happen, but upper right's layout looks good |
| 08:07.24 | purple_cow | ahh, gotcha |
| 08:08.35 | ToughShooter | The view from sky down to tank seems to be a bit unusual for me, but it looks cooler than the BZFlag screenshots |
| 08:08.56 | JeffM2501 | the view dist is moveable |
| 08:10.58 | ToughShooter | nice but it misses a scoreboard |
| 08:11.24 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/files/hosted/jeffm2501/mini-w-teams-2.png |
| 08:11.33 | JeffM2501 | that is the PS with the scoreboard idea |
| 08:13.57 | purple_cow | wow, lookit all this tnl garbage in the screamers directory |
| 08:17.35 | ToughShooter | it misses kill ratio etc |
| 08:18.03 | purple_cow | yeah! |
| 08:18.10 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: why doesn't it look just like bzflag?! |
| 08:18.10 | JeffM2501 | that can be on an extended info page |
| 08:18.21 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 08:18.30 | ToughShooter | I hate staring to the BZFlag scroreboard, when I was only a player I have always hidden it |
| 08:18.34 | purple_cow | sometimes i really start to wonder if it's possible to choke to death on one's own sarcasm |
| 08:18.40 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 08:18.50 | ToughShooter | nowadays I can't do that always :/ |
| 08:19.10 | JeffM2501 | cus ya know that SHIELD icon with 100 after it isn't a dead giveawy |
| 08:20.06 | purple_cow | well, that shield is obviously your flag |
| 08:20.18 | purple_cow | and the 100, well, that's your score! |
| 08:20.23 | JeffM2501 | and the shell casing? |
| 08:20.32 | purple_cow | just decorative |
| 08:20.37 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 08:21.23 | JeffM2501 | just like the "inf" part :) |
| 08:21.32 | JeffM2501 | tho thats only cus the font I have dosn't have a sideways 8 |
| 08:22.18 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: direction indicator for the radar |
| 08:22.29 | purple_cow | so i'm confused |
| 08:22.40 | purple_cow | if bzbot reports everything that comes from the CIA RSS feed |
| 08:22.45 | purple_cow | why aren't you just using CIA? :) |
| 08:22.59 | JeffM2501 | it's less frequent and combines updates |
| 08:23.04 | JeffM2501 | like cia digest |
| 08:23.18 | JeffM2501 | I just have to get the timer to be longer |
| 08:23.25 | JeffM2501 | like ever hour |
| 08:23.31 | purple_cow | heh |
| 08:23.38 | JeffM2501 | just to be less anoying |
| 08:23.47 | JeffM2501 | so they don't see every single little commit |
| 08:24.26 | JeffM2501 | figured it was a fair compromise |
| 08:25.37 | JeffM2501 | if this takes off more, and people care about more up to date cvs, then maybe I'll go back to CIA |
| 08:25.54 | JeffM2501 | as it is right now, it only works in windows debug :) |
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| 10:47.54 | SportChick | ~seen Pimpi |
| 10:47.58 | ibot | pimpi is currently on #bzflag (8h 20m 43s) #debian (8h 20m 43s) #bzleague (8h 20m 43s) #dub (8h 20m 43s) #silvercat (8h 20m 43s) |
| 10:48.07 | SportChick | ~seen Pimpinella |
| 10:48.08 | ibot | pimpinella <n=frank@p5481B6D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 2d 22h 42s ago, saying: 'jm_: if you tried you'd have seen, that no answer matching my description is provided'. |
| 10:48.37 | Tupone | ~seen SportChick |
| 10:48.38 | ibot | sportchick is currently on #bzflag #kierra #bzleague #mtc #dub #silvercat #bz-inc #icf. Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 31s |
| 10:48.48 | Tupone | :) |
| 10:49.48 | SportChick | Tupone: good morning! |
| 10:49.56 | Tupone | morning SportChick |
| 10:50.22 | Tupone | hehe, I thought it so early for you :) |
| 10:53.35 | SportChick | it's 12:47 |
| 10:53.51 | _Manu_ | am? |
| 10:53.59 | Tupone | SportChick: where? |
| 10:54.15 | _Manu_ | Redondo Beach? :) |
| 10:54.26 | SportChick | Tupone: Maui, Hawaii |
| 10:54.34 | Tupone | ahhh |
| 10:54.41 | _Manu_ | you are lucky :/ |
| 10:54.45 | SportChick | in Redondo, it's 2:54 |
| 10:54.46 | Tupone | I want to stay there "( |
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| 12:59.59 | londonboi2k3 | Guys, I need a little help on something I want to get sorted out with BZ, b4 I changed ISP, I could log on to BZ no problem and I would have a + next to my name, IE +londonboi2k3 |
| 13:00.11 | londonboi2k3 | now tho, since I have gone to NTL, i get -londonboi2k3 |
| 13:00.25 | londonboi2k3 | does anyone know of a solution to this? |
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| 13:05.04 | Tupone | what is NTL ? |
| 13:05.23 | Tupone | another provider? |
| 13:06.04 | londonboi2k3 | NTL is a cable tv and phone provider |
| 13:06.27 | Tupone | did you get the token good when you list server? |
| 13:06.35 | londonboi2k3 | I think I have found the problem now, NTL use some sort of proxy |
| 13:06.48 | londonboi2k3 | sorry did not understand what you mean? |
| 13:06.52 | Tupone | try :81 on the list server |
| 13:07.02 | londonboi2k3 | http://bzbb.bzflag.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2879&sid=1e62944b733ad2a7008b4f1e18d3f7ea |
| 13:07.11 | londonboi2k3 | oh, you just said whats on that link ;) |
| 13:07.19 | londonboi2k3 | just changing it now |
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| 14:23.49 | BZBot | New news from gumatches: Dec 11 18:02 => T42 (tea for two):9, Day of Destruction {DoD}:2 |
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| 15:28.27 | Grumbler | http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000067070759/ |
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| 15:29.23 | menotume | Finally, a useful device for USB |
| 15:30.06 | menotume | lol, remote operation |
| 15:32.19 | menotume | wonder what the range is on those missles |
| 15:33.09 | Tupone | I think they are ballistic missile |
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| 15:35.07 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Sending broadcast is achieved looping on all network connections |
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| 15:36.06 | gsnedders | i'm getting so bored on viper's... having to tell people what CTF is... a couple of months ago there simply weren't any newbies on viper's... |
| 15:44.53 | SilverFox | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.14 | menotume | ya - /sendhelp ctf |
| 15:49.30 | Grumbler | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.54 | menotume | Simply call out for delivery (helpfile NeedFoodForLunch sent by menotume) |
| 15:52.42 | Grumbler | ooo, now there is an idea..... #papajohns ....send your order in via irc |
| 15:53.44 | Thumper_ | yeah but is it a good idea? (bogus orders would be a problem) |
| 15:55.56 | Thumper_ | heh |
| 15:56.31 | Thumper_ | sounds a bit like coding and totally ignoring errors and exceptions... ;) |
| 15:56.33 | ToughShooter | Thumper_: Why don't you give verified group requireIdentify permission at norang servers? |
| 15:56.57 | Thumper_ | ToughShooter: not sure... sometimes verification fails |
| 15:57.33 | Thumper_ | ToughShooter: probably just because I haven't thought about that yet... :D |
| 15:57.37 | ToughShooter | That usually happens to me when I did a typo in my password ;) |
| 15:57.57 | Thumper_ | if the listserver is slow it can fail |
| 15:58.00 | Thumper_ | that's happened to me a few times |
| 15:58.05 | Thumper_ | even with the right password |
| 15:58.09 | Thumper_ | reconnecting normally fixes it |
| 15:59.48 | ToughShooter | sometimes I see I get no + instantly but waiting a few seconds changes the - to + |
| 16:00.27 | Thumper_ | ToughShooter: done. |
| 16:01.06 | ToughShooter | tnx :) |
| 16:01.33 | gsnedders | maybe i should do some homework... |
| 16:01.40 | gsnedders | nah. can't be bothered. |
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| 18:20.10 | arseian | hello, does anyone know of a 'whos playing online'kinda webpage? |
| 18:21.10 | arseian | could do with tracking my son : / |
| 18:22.16 | orange | stats.bzflag.org/currentplayers.php |
| 18:22.27 | arseian | ty orange |
| 18:22.31 | orange | yw |
| 18:23.16 | arseian | ahh thats the one i wanted ...great cheers....tata |
| 18:34.13 | Grumbler | hmm, somehow i feel good about giving that info out, and bad....like i joined the dark side.....big brother is watching |
| 18:34.34 | JeffM2501 | allways watching |
| 18:34.53 | orange | Grumbler: got kids? |
| 18:35.15 | Grumbler | not that i know of |
| 18:35.29 | orange | hehe, if you did, you wouldn't even hesitate about something like that |
| 18:35.44 | ToughShooter | Watch this then instead: http://prangstgrup.com/startupsound/quicktime.php |
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| 19:05.33 | BusyBeaver | hi |
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| 19:06.35 | BusyBeaver | i need to unwrap uv coords, for my models, which is a horrible task, but i try it now with 3dsmax 8 |
| 19:06.46 | BusyBeaver | any other cool tools to do it? |
| 19:10.36 | trepan | http://www.uvmapper.com , blender and wings3d are a couple of other free progs. that uvmap |
| 19:11.01 | BusyBeaver | oh thx |
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| 19:34.45 | JeffM2501 | every face I see is cold as ice.. everything I touch is pain.. ever since I lost imagination. Like a stream that flows into the sea... I am lost for all eternity.. ever since you took your love away from me... |
| 19:35.05 | JeffM2501 | some times the sound of goodbye is louder then any drum beat |
| 19:44.26 | Grumbler | JeffM2501: you getting depressed again.....we going have to ship you a couple "attitude" adjusters |
| 19:44.59 | JeffM2501 | do they have red hair? |
| 19:45.12 | Grumbler | nope |
| 19:45.29 | JeffM2501 | then no, I am not depressed |
| 19:45.33 | Grumbler | well, at least not that one can see in normal wear |
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| 19:46.59 | JeffM2501 | if I go crazy will you still call me superman? |
| 19:47.15 | trepan | never did, never will |
| 19:47.23 | JeffM2501 | fair nuf :) |
| 19:48.41 | Grumbler | i'm not gonna give up, i'm not stop, i'm gonna work harder |
| 19:50.49 | JeffM2501 | well you don't know what we can find.. why don't you come with me little girl on a magic carpet ride.... |
| 19:52.26 | Grumbler | doors to nowhere |
| 19:53.18 | Aribeth | there are many doors. which one is the right one is the mystry |
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| 19:55.09 | Tupone | hi Aribeth |
| 19:55.17 | Aribeth | hi Tupone |
| 19:55.26 | Aribeth | how goes the quest? |
| 19:55.45 | Tupone | hehe, bad. ANy time I go in the wilderness, I am attacked by someone |
| 19:56.05 | Tupone | so ... trying to get more strength |
| 19:56.09 | Aribeth | ahh. I havn't been there yet |
| 19:56.14 | Aribeth | me too |
| 19:56.22 | Aribeth | im up to level 54 |
| 19:56.24 | Tupone | you mine mine mine |
| 19:56.31 | Aribeth | yes |
| 19:56.40 | Aribeth | i mine lots of essence |
| 19:57.02 | Aribeth | i sold 4k for 130k |
| 19:57.36 | Tupone | eek, you get 4000 ess !! |
| 19:57.44 | Aribeth | ya |
| 19:58.15 | Aribeth | i burn up the money on runes :P |
| 19:58.17 | Tupone | I think in 2 you can do better. One mine and one transport to bank |
| 19:58.28 | Aribeth | ya |
| 19:58.48 | BusyBeaver | i tell you uare all lame :), trust me mototfukerz |
| 19:58.50 | Aribeth | my mining level is 50 |
| 19:58.57 | BusyBeaver | :):):) |
| 19:59.00 | JeffM2501 | BusyBeaver, please watch your lanuage |
| 19:59.01 | Tupone | mine is 59 |
| 19:59.07 | BusyBeaver | upsi |
| 19:59.11 | Aribeth | nice |
| 19:59.48 | BusyBeaver | haha, i go to that one next thirtday: www.lilli-wolke7.de |
| 19:59.58 | BusyBeaver | just a quick job |
| 20:00.06 | BusyBeaver | :) |
| 20:00.22 | Aribeth | soon i will start mining gold |
| 20:00.29 | BusyBeaver | why that? |
| 20:00.39 | BusyBeaver | $$ |
| 20:00.44 | Aribeth | ya |
| 20:00.55 | JeffM2501 | BusyBeaver, please don't post inapropreate links |
| 20:01.07 | BusyBeaver | ok i am SORRY |
| 20:01.25 | BusyBeaver | just a wrong paste |
| 20:01.36 | Aribeth | Tupone, what is your strength? |
| 20:01.47 | JeffM2501 | BusyBeaver, sure it was |
| 20:01.47 | Tupone | total? 61 |
| 20:02.12 | Aribeth | nice, mine is 45 |
| 20:02.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Tupone] by JeffM2501 |
| 20:02.51 | Aribeth | heh, a level 9 guy challenged me the other day |
| 20:03.11 | BusyBeaver | hm i wonder how many variables are necessary to describe a 3d model of a woman, if had that i could tweak the veariable values to create another model |
| 20:03.19 | Aribeth | when he realized i was leading him to the wild he ran |
| 20:03.30 | Tupone | hehe |
| 20:03.30 | BusyBeaver | though it must have been enough variables to make it look high quality |
| 20:03.34 | BusyBeaver | or realistic |
| 20:03.52 | Aribeth | i think he didnt see my level |
| 20:03.57 | BusyBeaver | that i could make some playboy pics and get richt :) |
| 20:04.13 | Aribeth | BusyBeaver, can it |
| 20:05.18 | Aribeth | i also do rune crafting :) |
| 20:05.38 | BusyBeaver | how stupid/poor must someone be to play/deal with bzflag in his sparse time, i mean that game is pretty nice but you cannot earn a buck with it |
| 20:06.16 | BusyBeaver | its just a damn war game |
| 20:06.29 | Aribeth | and your point is? |
| 20:06.33 | Tupone | and why you loose time on it, or lost ? |
| 20:06.36 | orange | yes, much more interesting to come troll a channel, that's a great way to make money too |
| 20:06.43 | BusyBeaver | the point is that there is no point at all :) |
| 20:06.46 | Tupone | or making cheat |
| 20:07.39 | Aribeth | well, i for one dont like trolls, so i just get out my axe and have at :) |
| 20:08.20 | BusyBeaver | its nice to be troll, because girls liek trolls, and game companies do too |
| 20:08.29 | BusyBeaver | so |
| 20:08.31 | _Manu_ | BusyBeaver, hola! |
| 20:09.23 | Aribeth | as far as im conserned trolls serve no usefull pourpous |
| 20:10.00 | BusyBeaver | yeah thats right, but hm i dont thing that someone servers any purpose anyway |
| 20:10.00 | Aribeth | they are fat, ugly, and talk too much! |
| 20:10.16 | BusyBeaver | only one is true for me |
| 20:10.33 | Aribeth | nay all are true :P |
| 20:10.53 | BusyBeaver | fuck u :) |
| 20:11.11 | Tupone | BusyBeaver: language |
| 20:11.18 | BusyBeaver | whats that |
| 20:11.21 | Aribeth | so with that, the worrds of the troll are unimportant and are therefor not heard |
| 20:12.13 | BusyBeaver | ok |
| 20:12.16 | BusyBeaver | well... |
| 20:12.20 | Aribeth | :) |
| 20:12.28 | BusyBeaver | merry xmas |
| 20:12.29 | BusyBeaver | u are such disabled beach bastard that stick its little fuckshit |
| 20:12.29 | BusyBeaver | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.30 | BusyBeaver | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.30 | BusyBeaver | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.30 | BusyBeaver | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.30 | BusyBeaver | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.33 | BusyBeaver | :) |
| 20:12.39 | Aribeth | boot time |
| 20:12.41 | *** kick/#bzflag [BusyBeaver!n=Tupone@pdpc/supporter/active/Tupone] by Tupone (bye) |
| 20:12.57 | Aribeth | thank you |
| 20:13.04 | orange | I'd have done it ten minutes ago |
| 20:13.09 | orange | he obviously had nothing to contribute |
| 20:13.12 | orange | _Manu_: you know him? |
| 20:13.18 | Tupone | Perfect Cell |
| 20:13.19 | _Manu_ | not exactly |
| 20:13.40 | orange | well, if you see him, ask him not to be an idiot |
| 20:13.56 | _Manu_ | he is only a poor guy |
| 20:13.57 | Grumbler | he was around awhile before he went off....odd |
| 20:18.42 | Aribeth | my conversation with Tupone seemed to have set him off |
| 20:21.16 | trepan | and to think that i helped that idiot... |
| 20:22.00 | Grumbler | l8r |
| 20:22.05 | Aribeth | cya |
| 20:24.23 | Aribeth | i wonder if he's bipolar :P |
| 20:27.01 | Ice_Wewe | Trepan!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:27.21 | Ice_Wewe | your nutty server keeps going NR, and I'm mad about it cause I Seg Faulted, and I was WINNING!!!! |
| 20:27.46 | Ice_Wewe | why does it do that? |
| 20:27.46 | Aribeth | awwww |
| 20:27.54 | Ice_Wewe | do you take pleasure in pulling out the ethernet cable? |
| 20:28.16 | Aribeth | he only does it for you :P |
| 20:28.27 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: I know, and it ONLY does it on one port!!!!!!!! |
| 20:28.57 | Ice_Wewe | trepan: do you enjoy the thought of the rage that would be showing on the player's faces at that precise moment? (only joking) |
| 20:29.13 | Ice_Wewe | its sooooo annoying, what causes it? |
| 20:29.22 | Aribeth | well, being all charged up aver it wont help fix it |
| 20:29.32 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: I know, but it helps me |
| 20:29.42 | Aribeth | not really |
| 20:29.59 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: did you know, that parents buy themselves gifts, then wrap them, and give them to themselves? |
| 20:30.07 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: that is So what I'm gonna do! |
| 20:30.21 | Aribeth | heh |
| 20:30.33 | Aribeth | more power to ya |
| 20:30.33 | Ice_Wewe | "Oh look! An AMD64 3800+, _just_ what I wanted!" |
| 20:30.43 | Ice_Wewe | ;) |
| 20:31.21 | Aribeth | i just really dont care much either way |
| 20:31.31 | Ice_Wewe | arggg.... I'm gonna go vent my anger on some other room |
| 20:31.34 | Ice_Wewe | brb |
| 20:31.42 | Aribeth | good |
| 20:32.01 | Aribeth | no way |
| 20:32.43 | Ice_Wewe | ok |
| 20:32.44 | Aribeth | go yell in the closet. it helps :P |
| 20:32.50 | Ice_Wewe | Chanserv got sad, and left crying |
| 20:33.01 | orange | go chop wood, it's the ultimate stress reliever |
| 20:33.08 | Ice_Wewe | orange: seriously? |
| 20:33.24 | orange | absolutely |
| 20:33.33 | Aribeth | or go kill hill giants in runescape. it helps too |
| 20:33.39 | Ice_Wewe | yessssssssssss (hehehe, the forest will _never_be the same) |
| 20:33.43 | orange | you get to beat the crap out of something and you're allowed to |
| 20:33.45 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: or, I could kill noobs |
| 20:33.51 | orange | encouraged to, actually |
| 20:33.58 | Ice_Wewe | orange: cool |
| 20:34.01 | Ice_Wewe | brb |
| 20:34.10 | Aribeth | yep |
| 20:34.26 | Aribeth | and im no noob at it :P |
| 20:35.35 | Ice_Wewe | ok, I'm back |
| 20:36.11 | Aribeth | no wood to chop :P |
| 20:36.27 | Ice_Wewe | what wood? I went to the fridge... |
| 20:36.52 | Aribeth | oh, then no meat to chop :P |
| 20:37.00 | wizatcom | is SF CVS having issues again? |
| 20:37.02 | Ice_Wewe | we've got tonnes of wood, I'm just to lazy to chop it ;) |
| 20:37.10 | Ice_Wewe | wizatcom: yea |
| 20:37.12 | wizatcom | ok |
| 20:37.19 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: yep, I live with a Veggie |
| 20:37.28 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: (I'm _not_ the Veggie) |
| 20:37.41 | Aribeth | dint think you were |
| 20:38.22 | Ice_Wewe | dang it |
| 20:38.28 | Ice_Wewe | CVS is broken still?! |
| 20:38.36 | wizatcom | yup |
| 20:38.43 | wizatcom | it seems like CVS is down more than it's up |
| 20:38.48 | Ice_Wewe | dang, that's going on a week now |
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| 20:38.55 | Ice_Wewe | or at least a couple days |
| 20:38.58 | wizatcom | it was working a few days ago |
| 20:39.03 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfs.cxx bzfs.h bzfsAPI.cxx): Reworking SendTeamUpdate |
| 20:39.04 | wizatcom | but it wasn't working last week |
| 20:39.08 | Ice_Wewe | arggg!!!!!! |
| 20:39.12 | Aribeth | hello SportChick |
| 20:39.27 | Ice_Wewe | Tupone, stop, this is torture... updating the source, and yet we can't "Check-out" |
| 20:39.28 | wizatcom | i wonder what "partial outage" means |
| 20:39.33 | SportChick | Aribeth: hiya |
| 20:39.45 | wizatcom | Ice_Wewe: there's always the web version if you're that desperate :) |
| 20:39.51 | Aribeth | how are things sporty? |
| 20:39.55 | Ice_Wewe | wizatcom: bah.... no time |
| 20:40.02 | Ice_Wewe | Logging in to :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:2401/cvsroot/bzflag |
| 20:40.03 | Ice_Wewe | CVS password: |
| 20:40.03 | Ice_Wewe | cvs [login aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) |
| 20:40.07 | Ice_Wewe | argggg!!!!!!! |
| 20:40.34 | ToughShooter | Pimpi: ping |
| 20:40.59 | Tupone | Ice_Wewe: you are getting CVS from another repository, so don't get mad about me |
| 20:41.00 | Ice_Wewe | wizatcom: gimmie that |
| 20:41.12 | Ice_Wewe | Tupone: bah |
| 20:41.26 | Ice_Wewe | wizatcom: what? you got a developer's login? |
| 20:41.34 | wizatcom | no |
| 20:41.40 | wizatcom | just saing you'll have to wait |
| 20:41.40 | Aribeth | ~lart Ice_Wewe for being a hot head |
| 20:41.41 | wizatcom | me too |
| 20:41.46 | wizatcom | but you seem to be in such a hurry |
| 20:41.51 | Ice_Wewe | ~bzfrag Aribeth for being mean |
| 20:41.53 | ibot | ACTION destroys Aribeth for being mean with a guided missle |
| 20:42.03 | wizatcom | ~slashdot |
| 20:42.07 | ToughShooter | She's not mean |
| 20:42.19 | Ice_Wewe | what is this, the 90's?! |
| 20:43.15 | Aribeth | :) |
| 20:43.58 | Aribeth | who, me mean? never :P |
| 20:44.34 | Aribeth | i only call em as i see em |
| 20:44.53 | Aribeth | its the 60's man |
| 20:45.08 | Aribeth | far out! |
| 20:48.37 | Ice_Wewe | holy cow! the Xbox360's FSB is running at 5.4Ghz!!!!! |
| 20:50.16 | Ice_Wewe | wow, that's like the speed of every one of the computers in this room combined |
| 20:50.34 | Ice_Wewe | makes my 800Mhz FSB look like waste |
| 20:50.48 | Ice_Wewe | (glad I'm jumping to an AMD64 with a 2Ghz FSB, w00t!) |
| 20:52.03 | Ice_Wewe | question. what software do you have to run to get this BIOS "Boot off of network" to function? |
| 20:53.54 | Tupone | Ice_Wewe: I think you have to put some eprom on the ethernet card |
| 20:54.04 | Aribeth | yes |
| 20:54.13 | Ice_Wewe | Tupone: eprom? what if it's intigrated? |
| 20:54.43 | Ice_Wewe | both my current mobo, and new AMD64 mobo have intigrated ethernet |
| 20:54.45 | Aribeth | you need a nic card with an eprom for remote boot |
| 20:54.52 | Tupone | ~spell intigrated |
| 20:55.19 | Ice_Wewe | so, if the BIOS has that function, wouldn't they make the card have it too? |
| 20:55.33 | Ice_Wewe | the card chip* |
| 20:55.35 | purple_cow | a lot of ethernet cards nowadays can do PXE booting |
| 20:55.46 | Ice_Wewe | PXE? |
| 20:55.52 | purple_cow | which doesn't require an EPROM but does require a custom dhcp server |
| 20:56.15 | Ice_Wewe | purple_cow: oh boy, if I remember correctly, our DHCP server was last updated in 1999 |
| 20:56.30 | Ice_Wewe | purple_cow: so, I have an AMD64 with my old 32bit system on it |
| 20:56.45 | Tupone | purple_cow: can you give-me some url or i just google ? |
| 20:56.48 | Ice_Wewe | purple_cow: I now have a P4 mobo, memory, and PSU, but no HDD, can I boot it off the net? |
| 20:56.56 | purple_cow | Tupone: google ;) |
| 20:57.01 | Tupone | :) |
| 20:57.02 | Ice_Wewe | purple_cow: net = LAN |
| 20:57.18 | purple_cow | Ice_Wewe: sure |
| 20:57.27 | purple_cow | well, *probably* |
| 20:57.33 | Aribeth | Ice_Wewe, really? |
| 20:57.39 | Aribeth | wow |
| 20:57.47 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: does that surprise you? |
| 20:58.07 | Aribeth | heh, i was being sarcastic :P |
| 20:58.14 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: I have a 512 module, and a 1GB module. The 1GB goes to the AMD64, and the 512 stays in the P4 |
| 20:58.35 | Ice_Wewe | and I'm using an aftermarket heat sync, but I kept all the parts I'd need to reuse the stock one |
| 20:58.46 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: yep, I'm set to have both running ;) |
| 20:58.56 | Aribeth | tally-ho |
| 20:59.38 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: I already have the most CPU power in the house, in my room, and I'll also have the first 64bit machine in the house |
| 21:00.00 | Aribeth | :) |
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| 21:00.11 | Ice_Wewe | all-in-all, I have around 5.6Ghz in here |
| 21:00.24 | Ice_Wewe | (that's a P4, P3, MIPS4000, and a G4) |
| 21:00.38 | Aribeth | been there, done that |
| 21:01.22 | ToughShooter | The question is where you're getting the clock speed exactly and how many "losses" you have in pipelines |
| 21:01.39 | Aribeth | yep |
| 21:01.52 | Ice_Wewe | ToughShooter: I have 1100Mhz of Bus speed in this room |
| 21:02.01 | Ice_Wewe | ToughShooter: perhaps more, I'm not quite sure on the PSP ;) |
| 21:02.13 | Aribeth | not really cause it does not combine |
| 21:02.19 | ToughShooter | also superscalar processors do educated guesses, that means they can guess wrong, too |
| 21:02.29 | Ice_Wewe | ToughShooter: that's why the AMD64 is so attractive, it's 3.5 times the bus speed of my P4 |
| 21:02.44 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: I know, but if they did |
| 21:02.58 | Aribeth | then it can make 3.5 times more errors :P |
| 21:03.09 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: but it wont ;) |
| 21:03.14 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: oh wait, I get it |
| 21:03.29 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: it can make 3.5 times as much errors, and I still wont notice the difference |
| 21:04.29 | Aribeth | then its a dumb processor |
| 21:04.52 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: yes, but if AMD64's made that many errors, they wouldn't sell as well as they do... |
| 21:05.17 | Aribeth | im just teasing you :P |
| 21:06.16 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: that's not nice :P |
| 21:06.33 | Aribeth | its only meant in fun |
| 21:06.38 | ToughShooter | Still, I wonder why no VLIW processors (like modern ones who ft the EPIC-concept) aren't competitive |
| 21:06.41 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: meh |
| 21:06.48 | Aribeth | AMD makes some good stuff |
| 21:06.53 | ToughShooter | s/ft/fit |
| 21:07.06 | Ice_Wewe | purple_cow: I wish I had my AMD64 right now so I could try out that network boot thing |
| 21:07.28 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: and yet you wonder why I'm dumping intel for AMD.... |
| 21:07.30 | ToughShooter | bah, my grammar gets worse and worse every day :/ |
| 21:08.08 | Ice_Wewe | ToughShooter: it's ok, my manners get worse and worse every day :\ |
| 21:08.17 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: what _do_ you have? |
| 21:08.20 | Aribeth | im just indiferent to computers right now. burned out on the IT thing |
| 21:08.36 | ToughShooter | Aribeth: Yeah, that's a good idea :) |
| 21:08.46 | retro | toughshooter, VLIW is not competitive because no one is willing to spend the money to properly build the chips, _AND_ also make incredible compilers for them. |
| 21:09.08 | retro | There is just a phenominal amount of money thrown at x86 chip development. |
| 21:09.27 | Aribeth | you do 6 years of IT listening to snivileing users, and taking the heat for everything that goes wrong |
| 21:09.32 | retro | Amazing how fast they can make the arch when they throw money and transistors at the problem. |
| 21:09.39 | Aribeth | then you'll understand how i feel |
| 21:09.42 | Ice_Wewe | retro: I have a question. (not surprising) If AMD is x86 compatable, then what is it normally? |
| 21:09.51 | retro | It's x86. |
| 21:09.59 | retro | Just a different micro-arch inside |
| 21:10.01 | ToughShooter | Seems so, that's why they're still halfway competitive at server market with ppc |
| 21:10.04 | Ice_Wewe | retro: then why is it only 'compatible'? |
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| 21:10.15 | retro | Because Intel controls the spec. ;) |
| 21:10.33 | Ice_Wewe | retro: ok.... so, if do you get more work out of them if you run them in whatever they actually are? |
| 21:10.34 | retro | I prefer AMD chips to Intel myself. |
| 21:10.40 | ToughShooter | but they have to be forced to use AMD's 64 bit extensions |
| 21:10.56 | Ice_Wewe | ToughShooter: dua, it's intel, typical idiots |
| 21:11.04 | JeffM2501 | you mean just like AMD was forced to use the x386 archetecture :) |
| 21:11.07 | retro | An AMD64 FX processor will outperform an Intel processor even in 32 bit mode. |
| 21:11.10 | Ice_Wewe | ToughShooter: they're the people who made their 64bit CPUs non-32bit compat |
| 21:11.13 | ToughShooter | Intel looks to me everything but inovative in CPU area |
| 21:11.25 | JeffM2501 | intel has one good CPU |
| 21:11.29 | JeffM2501 | the pentium M |
| 21:11.35 | retro | ya |
| 21:11.41 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: no question, that thing supports PCI-E! |
| 21:11.45 | ToughShooter | They have not developed the Pentium M, AFAIK |
| 21:11.54 | retro | The memory bus bandwidth of the AMD64 FX processors is staggering |
| 21:11.56 | JeffM2501 | they are developing it |
| 21:12.07 | Ice_Wewe | retro: as opposed to the regular ones? |
| 21:12.09 | JeffM2501 | when they have it in desktop configs it will be interesting |
| 21:12.12 | Ice_Wewe | retro: what is it around? |
| 21:12.12 | ToughShooter | yes, now |
| 21:12.22 | JeffM2501 | the FXs are very fast chips |
| 21:12.28 | JeffM2501 | but very expensive |
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| 21:12.36 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: they're also two arms and a leg |
| 21:12.38 | retro | Ice_Wewe, the memory bandwidth really shot up with the FX line of chips. Check out the PC tech review websites for details. |
| 21:12.42 | JeffM2501 | if you want the fastest single core system around you get an FX |
| 21:12.44 | retro | www.tomshardware.com |
| 21:12.58 | retro | You get what you pay for. :) |
| 21:13.00 | JeffM2501 | they are multiplyer unlocked too so you can twiddle with em |
| 21:13.06 | Ice_Wewe | retro: so it seems |
| 21:13.13 | JeffM2501 | overclocking dosn't void there waranty ether |
| 21:13.19 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: I thought that the normal ones were too... |
| 21:13.23 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:13.23 | retro | When I was younger, I though overclocking was cool. Now, I just crave stability. |
| 21:13.26 | ToughShooter | Maybe a PPC with very good cooling can beat it but that's all I could think of |
| 21:13.45 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: dang |
| 21:13.49 | JeffM2501 | the PPCS are starting to stall out |
| 21:13.56 | JeffM2501 | and are taking huge amounts of power |
| 21:14.06 | retro | The answer is to revive the transputer. :) |
| 21:14.09 | retro | NOT! |
| 21:14.23 | ToughShooter | It's IBM, they want no mobile processors |
| 21:14.32 | JeffM2501 | tho most PPCs are draged down by the microkernel they run |
| 21:14.38 | ToughShooter | and thus not developing them |
| 21:14.45 | retro | Well, if they run Linux, they're not running a microkernel. |
| 21:14.50 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:14.57 | JeffM2501 | they run better on linux for somet hings |
| 21:15.08 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Heh, OS X is slow, I know |
| 21:15.11 | retro | Several of my coworkers bought ibooks and put Linux on them. |
| 21:15.24 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, it's the kernel, it dosn't do multi process well |
| 21:15.26 | retro | He even has power management working well on it. |
| 21:15.38 | JeffM2501 | but there ain't no photoshop on linux |
| 21:15.44 | retro | GIMP |
| 21:15.52 | JeffM2501 | gimp is not photoshop |
| 21:15.59 | JeffM2501 | not for a number of years |
| 21:16.01 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: what I've heared from the intel macs is that they run even worse (but that can have many reasons, too) |
| 21:16.01 | retro | true, but the price is right. :) |
| 21:16.23 | JeffM2501 | retro, not when it dosn't do waht you need to do |
| 21:16.29 | JeffM2501 | free crap is still crap |
| 21:16.33 | JeffM2501 | it does you no good |
| 21:16.34 | retro | details details. :) |
| 21:16.43 | ToughShooter | You pay the price via looking at the UI |
| 21:16.46 | JeffM2501 | computers are meant to be used |
| 21:16.54 | JeffM2501 | not talked about :) |
| 21:17.00 | retro | Is there a windows emulation package for PPC linux? |
| 21:17.05 | retro | I'm guessing no. |
| 21:17.14 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, intel often does a worse job at threading then others :) |
| 21:17.27 | JeffM2501 | there is wine |
| 21:17.29 | JeffM2501 | and winelib |
| 21:17.46 | retro | I doubt that will run photoshop. |
| 21:17.55 | JeffM2501 | wine is prety cool |
| 21:17.59 | retro | So, wine doesn't rely upon the x86 underneath to execute code? |
| 21:18.00 | JeffM2501 | for what it does |
| 21:18.16 | JeffM2501 | you could rebuild an app with winelib and it would run native |
| 21:18.30 | ToughShooter | One would think a CPU with doubled clock speed should run twice as fast but at Intel this is not necessary true, only seen this from IBM and Motorola |
| 21:18.37 | retro | Good luck rebuilding photoshop Jeff. :) |
| 21:18.50 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, core speed dosn't mean anything, it's the bus |
| 21:18.53 | JeffM2501 | retro, I don't have to |
| 21:18.54 | retro | TS, it all comes down to work per cycle. |
| 21:19.00 | JeffM2501 | I use them in there native OSs |
| 21:19.08 | JeffM2501 | retro, it's also bus speed |
| 21:19.14 | JeffM2501 | that's a big factor |
| 21:19.18 | retro | ya. |
| 21:19.52 | retro | Intel actually shortened the pipeline in the new Pentium M, and did more work per cycle, and dropped the clock speed, and they are decent performers |
| 21:20.15 | ToughShooter | They hate the losses nowadays, too :) |
| 21:20.20 | retro | Making the pipeline too long really makes branches painful. |
| 21:20.48 | ToughShooter | hehe, invalidating the whole pipeline ;) |
| 21:20.54 | retro | Well, Intel is getting what they're due. They have been laying off folks left and right over the last few years to keep costs down, but that meant work wasn't getting done either. |
| 21:21.09 | retro | after a few years, that starts to show in the company's product offerings |
| 21:22.17 | Ice_Wewe | As mentioned before, these are the Venice with 512 kB L2 cache and San Diego with 1 MB. (sweet) |
| 21:23.06 | Ice_Wewe | that means that if the place I'm looking at getting this from has a Venice, I'll be able to OC it even more |
| 21:25.36 | BZBot | New news from matches: Dec 12 20:57 => Bz Incorporated:9, The Barbarians:0 |
| 21:29.34 | trepan | JeffM2501: it depends on what you're doing with the machine (core vs. bus speed) |
| 21:29.51 | JeffM2501 | true |
| 21:30.18 | JeffM2501 | most operations use ram and other thigns then just the CPU tho :) |
| 21:30.45 | trepan | cache also factors in heavily |
| 21:31.00 | trepan | (again, depending on the task) |
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| 21:48.40 | brad2901 | bzbb admins: spam in registration issues again |
| 21:48.52 | JeffM2501 | ohh noes!!!!!! |
| 21:49.27 | JeffM2501 | there ya go |
| 21:49.55 | JeffM2501 | that spam will never disrupt your forum trolling again |
| 21:49.55 | brad2901 | (: |
| 21:50.00 | JeffM2501 | today |
| 21:50.06 | JeffM2501 | thisafternoon |
| 21:50.08 | brad2901 | great, you made my day |
| 21:50.22 | JeffM2501 | I made the day? |
| 21:50.52 | brad2901 | you know what I mean ;) |
| 21:50.59 | JeffM2501 | if I can make time |
| 21:51.03 | JeffM2501 | that makes me godlike |
| 21:51.07 | JeffM2501 | sweet |
| 21:51.14 | JeffM2501 | wonder what else I can create |
| 21:51.33 | Aribeth | let there be light |
| 21:51.40 | JeffM2501 | it is now 3 |
| 21:52.01 | Aribeth | jeffM2501 goes flying into space |
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| 21:53.10 | Aribeth | all the munchkins float away and become some other universes problem |
| 21:53.48 | JeffM2501 | 1) why do you asume that changing the constant would remove gravatitic acceleration? |
| 21:54.03 | JeffM2501 | 2) woudl the same thing that happens to you, not happen to all other mass as well |
| 21:54.08 | Aribeth | just speculating :P |
| 21:54.09 | JeffM2501 | aka, the room, ground, etc... |
| 21:54.28 | JeffM2501 | human meat is not special in the space time continum |
| 21:55.39 | Aribeth | or we all could sink to the center of the planet |
| 21:55.46 | BZBot | New news from gumatches: Dec 12 21:31 => [ForestForce]:7, Enough Is Enough!:3 |
| 21:55.49 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: need that bad rocky wall texture || split world out to it's own file. give the world some boxes. |
| 21:56.08 | JeffM2501 | or it could just stay the same, forces canceling each other out :) |
| 21:56.25 | Aribeth | yep |
| 21:56.38 | Aribeth | or everying could just go poof |
| 21:56.59 | JeffM2501 | boxes look funny in top view :) |
| 21:57.34 | JeffM2501 | and F2 modes makes me sick :( |
| 21:57.47 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 21:57.56 | JeffM2501 | what is essence? |
| 21:58.06 | JeffM2501 | tradeskill component? |
| 21:58.17 | Aribeth | rune essence for spell casting |
| 21:58.21 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 21:58.40 | JeffM2501 | spell components, how quaint :) |
| 21:58.42 | Aribeth | rune essence has to be converted into different runes |
| 21:58.45 | Aribeth | yes |
| 21:58.59 | JeffM2501 | it a decently complex magic system? |
| 21:59.14 | Aribeth | earth, air, rire, water, chaos, death are some runes |
| 21:59.22 | Aribeth | yes |
| 21:59.52 | Aribeth | i mine essence to sell, and for rune crafting |
| 22:00.05 | JeffM2501 | they have an acution system? |
| 22:00.18 | JeffM2501 | or you just vendor sell? |
| 22:00.47 | Aribeth | runescape has a full economy. i biought a attamant axe for 7K and sold it for 10K |
| 22:01.00 | Aribeth | vendor, auction |
| 22:01.01 | JeffM2501 | that I gathered |
| 22:01.03 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 22:01.05 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 22:01.20 | JeffM2501 | eq2 has a nice thing, you can get a merchant board and sell stuff outa your house |
| 22:01.23 | JeffM2501 | even when loged off |
| 22:01.32 | Aribeth | cool |
| 22:01.44 | JeffM2501 | people can hit a broker who will list what you have to sell |
| 22:02.00 | Aribeth | runescape has a wild part where players can kill players |
| 22:02.07 | JeffM2501 | and there is even a "fence" that will sell from the oposing factioins players :) |
| 22:02.11 | JeffM2501 | yeah PvP |
| 22:02.59 | JeffM2501 | most games have some pvp component now |
| 22:03.11 | Aribeth | i just got full attamant aurmor and someone wanted to buy it for 100K |
| 22:03.24 | JeffM2501 | buy low, sell high |
| 22:03.28 | Aribeth | yep |
| 22:03.31 | JeffM2501 | friend of mine does that every day in wow |
| 22:03.34 | Aribeth | but i need it |
| 22:03.37 | JeffM2501 | has tons of gold |
| 22:03.49 | JeffM2501 | free horses for everyone :) |
| 22:04.16 | JeffM2501 | or robo-chickens for the gnomies |
| 22:04.17 | Aribeth | im working on leveling up, so i need my aurmor |
| 22:04.42 | JeffM2501 | ahh the grind :) |
| 22:04.52 | Aribeth | yep. im at level 54 |
| 22:04.58 | JeffM2501 | how many levels? |
| 22:05.08 | JeffM2501 | total |
| 22:05.11 | Aribeth | duno. saw one at 159 |
| 22:05.19 | JeffM2501 | ahh goes prety high then |
| 22:05.26 | Aribeth | yes |
| 22:05.28 | JeffM2501 | most comercial games don't go that high |
| 22:05.42 | JeffM2501 | the highest I've seen is StarWars Galaxys at 90 |
| 22:06.01 | JeffM2501 | eq goes to 60 IIRC |
| 22:06.03 | Aribeth | runescape seems to not follow the traditional D&D rules that closely |
| 22:06.14 | JeffM2501 | then it would stop at 20 |
| 22:06.29 | JeffM2501 | it class or skill based? |
| 22:06.41 | Aribeth | skill based |
| 22:06.51 | JeffM2501 | then it ain't d&d |
| 22:07.03 | JeffM2501 | skill based games become less fun at higher levels |
| 22:07.06 | Aribeth | you can specilaze, but there aren't different races |
| 22:07.11 | Aribeth | ya |
| 22:07.12 | JeffM2501 | as everyone is just uber at all things |
| 22:07.25 | JeffM2501 | no class dependence |
| 22:07.35 | Aribeth | yep |
| 22:08.32 | JeffM2501 | I'd love to see one that does proper D20 multi classing |
| 22:08.40 | Aribeth | yes |
| 22:09.16 | JeffM2501 | maybe DDO will do it |
| 22:09.28 | Aribeth | i would hope |
| 22:09.43 | JeffM2501 | they have changed the rules somewhat to make it work realtime |
| 22:09.44 | Aribeth | runescape has some drawbacks, but its free |
| 22:10.00 | JeffM2501 | I'd love to make my own mmorpg |
| 22:10.01 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 22:10.09 | Aribeth | :) |
| 22:10.10 | JeffM2501 | I think there are a couple ways to do it and make it free |
| 22:10.14 | JeffM2501 | biz wise |
| 22:10.26 | JeffM2501 | well at least free to try out parts of it |
| 22:10.48 | JeffM2501 | having more content for paying players isn't bad as long as it's reasonable |
| 22:10.53 | JeffM2501 | then they get to chose |
| 22:10.54 | Aribeth | im prolly gona become a member at some point |
| 22:11.23 | JeffM2501 | I think it'd be cool to let other people sign up, desing world areas, and run servers for those areas |
| 22:11.31 | JeffM2501 | and they would all conect together |
| 22:11.39 | Aribeth | ya |
| 22:11.46 | JeffM2501 | they'd just have to agree to your common ruleset and management system |
| 22:11.55 | Aribeth | jagex runs it all |
| 22:11.57 | JeffM2501 | like not making tons of free money |
| 22:12.09 | Aribeth | ya |
| 22:12.28 | JeffM2501 | then you could get the creative effort of a huge number of people |
| 22:12.46 | Aribeth | you have to mine, etc to earn money in runescape |
| 22:12.57 | JeffM2501 | no monster loot? |
| 22:13.13 | Aribeth | yes there is monster loot |
| 22:13.29 | JeffM2501 | can't that be sold for cash? |
| 22:13.40 | Aribeth | but the way to make big money is mining, and but low, sell high |
| 22:13.46 | Aribeth | yes |
| 22:14.01 | Aribeth | i just sold 1500 essences for 45K |
| 22:14.02 | JeffM2501 | you should see the tradeskill system in eq2 |
| 22:14.07 | JeffM2501 | it's a game in itslef |
| 22:14.17 | JeffM2501 | you have to activly do stuff while you are making something |
| 22:14.23 | JeffM2501 | or it will be of lesser quality |
| 22:14.31 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 22:14.32 | JeffM2501 | and there can be "misshaps" |
| 22:14.38 | JeffM2501 | that can even cause damage |
| 22:14.42 | JeffM2501 | a forge can kill you |
| 22:14.49 | Aribeth | runescape dosnt have that |
| 22:15.06 | Birdie | aribeth: your runescape addicted! |
| 22:15.17 | Aribeth | well, it does, but very limited |
| 22:15.21 | JeffM2501 | it's funy to see a healer in a tradeskill instance keeping somone alive long enough to make something:) |
| 22:15.23 | Aribeth | ya |
| 22:15.36 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 22:16.38 | Aribeth | what does a eq2 subscription cost? |
| 22:16.46 | JeffM2501 | 15$ |
| 22:16.58 | Aribeth | for how long |
| 22:17.02 | JeffM2501 | month |
| 22:17.10 | JeffM2501 | it's cheaper if you get more months at a time |
| 22:17.15 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 22:17.20 | Aribeth | not too bad |
| 22:17.30 | Aribeth | runescape is 5.00 per month |
| 22:17.30 | JeffM2501 | the general price is 10-15 |
| 22:17.40 | JeffM2501 | that's what they found most people will pay |
| 22:17.54 | Aribeth | yep |
| 22:18.16 | JeffM2501 | in old eq, some people would pay 25$ a month for the legends server |
| 22:18.19 | JeffM2501 | but those are freaks |
| 22:18.32 | Aribeth | wow |
| 22:18.47 | JeffM2501 | that server had a lot more activity too |
| 22:19.04 | JeffM2501 | basicly there was a 24/7 admin staff that would run events on the server |
| 22:19.11 | JeffM2501 | making it much more dynamic |
| 22:19.19 | Aribeth | thats what jagex has |
| 22:19.38 | JeffM2501 | does the world ever change? |
| 22:19.46 | Tupone | sometime |
| 22:20.09 | Aribeth | they just added a new city, and some stuff was added today |
| 22:20.47 | Tupone | Aribeth: you are a member now ? |
| 22:20.55 | Aribeth | not yet |
| 22:21.05 | Aribeth | im thinking hard on it |
| 22:21.15 | Aribeth | it would open up many things |
| 22:21.59 | Tupone | I will not |
| 22:22.11 | Aribeth | why?? |
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| 22:22.51 | Tupone | hehe, I'm getting bored rapidly, so I stop for some months and then back |
| 22:23.06 | Aribeth | ahh good reason |
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| 22:25.10 | Aribeth | Tupone, what quest are you working on? |
| 22:25.50 | BZBot | New news from gumatches: Dec 12 22:18 => Charm:10, Kick Ass Squad [KAS]:1 |
| 22:27.34 | Tupone | dragon slayer |
| 22:27.50 | Aribeth | i hear thats hard |
| 22:27.52 | JeffM2501 | what did the dragon ever do to you? |
| 22:28.43 | Birdie | it might sound annoying to hear the question..but its possible to the line of your emailstring moving when you typ some words in it and its longer than the line gives you? |
| 22:28.45 | Aribeth | it singed my hair :P |
| 22:28.47 | Tupone | JeffM2501: Never seen one |
| 22:28.59 | Birdie | if you know what i mean:( |
| 22:29.03 | JeffM2501 | then why do you want slay it? |
| 22:29.06 | Aribeth | there is one in the wizards tower |
| 22:29.11 | Birdie | cause now its mostly guessing if the line is done:) |
| 22:29.33 | Birdie | same for talking in the game, (although its not a chat game, but of observer or pm talk) |
| 22:29.51 | JeffM2501 | yeah text entry should stay right justified |
| 22:29.53 | JeffM2501 | not left |
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| 23:11.20 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/autogen.sh: instead of not even trying autoreconf on a configuration where it's well known to not work (e.g. mac os x), give it a try anyways but with a little more explanation. perhaps raise awareness of broken configurations. |
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| 23:14.57 | brad2901 | killer_1 is registered as your dead now.. still the same old password ask nonsense |
| 23:15.41 | brad2901 | could someone "remove" him? :p |
| 23:16.03 | brad2901 | he is asking people to go to some server saying he will tell them the password.. and then banning them |
| 23:16.14 | JeffM2501 | how do you know it's him? |
| 23:16.59 | brad2901 | because he told me? |
| 23:17.20 | JeffM2501 | I dono, you tell me |
| 23:17.28 | JeffM2501 | I can remove the global account |
| 23:17.34 | JeffM2501 | but I must be sure it is him |
| 23:17.38 | brlcad | so he's suckering people to join a server where he can ban people |
| 23:17.42 | brad2901 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.51 | JeffM2501 | sounds like people are stupid |
| 23:17.54 | brlcad | they're obviously falling for it |
| 23:17.57 | brad2901 | *** 'YOUR DEAD' joined the game as Green Team from 69.119.252.102. |
| 23:17.58 | JeffM2501 | and who cares if he bans them on his server |
| 23:18.01 | JeffM2501 | they won't go there |
| 23:18.08 | JeffM2501 | after that |
| 23:18.11 | JeffM2501 | whopty do |
| 23:18.12 | brad2901 | it's the pythonian.net server |
| 23:18.18 | JeffM2501 | who runs that? |
| 23:18.19 | brlcad | and? |
| 23:18.38 | brad2901 | dunno :) |
| 23:18.45 | JeffM2501 | then it's more of there problem |
| 23:18.52 | JeffM2501 | to be better with there password |
| 23:18.57 | JeffM2501 | or to use global perms and groups |
| 23:19.04 | brad2901 | ok, |
| 23:22.54 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (n=Tupone@pdpc/supporter/active/Tupone) |
| 23:22.54 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ |
| 23:26.10 | BZBot | New news from matches: Dec 12 23:08 => [TE] The Explorers:8, Bz Incorporated:2 |
| 23:32.51 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker) |
| 23:32.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 23:39.40 | *** join/#bzflag triclops_ (n=triclops@203-214-150-71.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:47.40 | *** join/#bzflag TD-Linux (n=TD-Linux@24-159-197-101.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 23:48.33 | JeffM2501 | how does this look? |
| 23:48.33 | JeffM2501 | http://myth.gibbscam.com/temp/miniwithstuff.png |
| 23:56.16 | BZBot | New news from opencombatproject: add walls, a fake test map, outer dirt, and other stuff to make the world look... || more textures for the world, because 1 texture is booring. |
| 23:57.08 | Tupone | BZBot is becoming annoying |
