| 00:01.33 | SilentSwan | icons are all screwed up... *sigh* |
| 00:01.36 | SilentSwan | pathetic |
| 00:02.48 | SilentSwan | i often wonder what people are thinking when they say wine works so well |
| 00:02.57 | SilentSwan | what are they comparing to??? a 286? |
| 00:09.32 | cosmos | they must be drinking lots of wine too |
| 00:09.43 | cosmos | or they had too much tux koolaid |
| 00:09.51 | SilentSwan | so it would appear |
| 00:10.46 | SilentSwan | ok... wine is utterly useless... |
| 00:10.53 | SilentSwan | emerge --unmerge wine |
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| 00:12.14 | SilentSwan | maybe it just doesn't like amd64 |
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| 00:43.13 | I_Died_Once | wine is good for like - playing some win32 stuff, but nothing major |
| 00:43.25 | I_Died_Once | playing the win32 spider solitaire, yeah |
| 00:43.31 | I_Died_Once | doom 3 - no |
| 00:44.11 | SilentSwan | bah... it won't even run mirc usably |
| 00:44.26 | SilentSwan | so i'm stuck with the rather disappointing selection of irc clients for linux |
| 00:44.33 | SilentSwan | not that mirc is anything great |
| 00:45.48 | SilentSwan | people got my hopes up saying you can run photoshop in it. pft. i won't even bother trying. |
| 00:46.33 | devster | xchat aint bad and i prefer gimp to photoshop :P |
| 00:46.46 | SilentSwan | then we're from 2 different worlds :) |
| 00:46.55 | Genosse_Darklord | well, when its possible to get Microsoft Office run on Wine |
| 00:47.05 | SilentSwan | well, openoffice does the job for me |
| 00:47.30 | SilentSwan | but i suspect that MS will make sure office NEVER runs in wine |
| 00:47.39 | Genosse_Darklord | its possible to use just one MSOffice licence for a whole company, using wine and X-Windows |
| 00:47.52 | Genosse_Darklord | sure it urns |
| 00:48.04 | Genosse_Darklord | nit runs on the comercial version of wine |
| 00:48.11 | SilentSwan | usably? if wine can't run mirc, i can't see how it'd even begin to run office |
| 00:48.17 | SilentSwan | oh... commercial version. |
| 00:48.18 | SilentSwan | figures |
| 00:48.47 | Genosse_Darklord | ever heard of : CrossOver Office |
| 00:48.53 | SilentSwan | yeah |
| 00:49.02 | Genosse_Darklord | seems to work fine |
| 00:49.03 | SilverFox | CrossOver office is very nice. |
| 00:49.08 | SilentSwan | i havn't been keeping up with things on the linux front for the past couple years |
| 00:49.15 | SilentSwan | now i see why |
| 00:49.17 | SilverFox | not exactly "the commercial version of wine" |
| 00:49.18 | Genosse_Darklord | yep, but costs money |
| 00:49.24 | SilverFox | its a commercial product that uses wine. |
| 00:49.27 | Genosse_Darklord | none license for any user |
| 00:49.35 | Genosse_Darklord | none |
| 00:49.38 | Genosse_Darklord | one |
| 00:50.33 | Genosse_Darklord | they are working together with the people making wine |
| 00:50.33 | orchid | vmware is the best solution ive found for MS apps |
| 00:50.33 | SilentSwan | Linux: the "Spruce Goose" of operating systems |
| 00:50.34 | Genosse_Darklord | nyep |
| 00:50.55 | Genosse_Darklord | It should be possible to work with XEN |
| 00:50.55 | SilentSwan | orchid: sure, if you've got dual cpu and 4+GB of RAM |
| 00:51.06 | Genosse_Darklord | nope |
| 00:51.18 | Genosse_Darklord | vmware is fast enough on slower computers |
| 00:51.23 | SilentSwan | those overpriced apples are starting to look interesting again *sigh* |
| 00:51.33 | SilentSwan | anyway.. need more coffee... afk |
| 00:51.34 | Genosse_Darklord | ca. 30-50% of the speed |
| 00:51.41 | SilentSwan | omg |
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| 00:52.38 | Genosse_Darklord | Windows XP should work on XEN, too if the new AMD CPUs are coming |
| 00:56.28 | SilentSwan | so.. i'll build vlc outside of the gentoo portage tree since portage seems to insist on installing the ENTIRE mozilla suite as a dependency... wtf?? |
| 00:56.49 | BenUrban | SilentSwan: obviously your USE flags are not set right |
| 00:57.02 | SilentSwan | probably true |
| 00:57.14 | SilentSwan | i could have a look at that, but i've got this far, so iwon't bother for now |
| 00:57.28 | BenUrban | ;) |
| 00:57.32 | SilentSwan | oh i'm not giving up |
| 00:57.37 | SilentSwan | not after all this |
| 00:58.02 | SilentSwan | but i've been out of the linux game for quite a long time, and it's really quit... shocking... to see how things are |
| 00:58.09 | SilentSwan | s/quit/quite/ |
| 00:58.28 | SilentSwan | ah well, i'll stop complaining |
| 00:58.29 | BenUrban | [ebuild R ] media-video/vlc-0.8.1-r1 -3dfx +X +a52 +aac +aalib +alsa (-altivec) -arts -bidi +cdda +cddb +cdio -debug +dts +dvb +dvd +esd +fbcon +ffmpeg +flac +freetype +ggi +gnutls +gtk2 +httpd +joystick +libcaca -lirc -live +mad +matroska +mpeg +nls -nsplugin +ogg +opengl +oss +sdl +ssl +stream +svg +svga +theora +unicode +v4l +vcd +vlm +vorbis +wxwindows +xosd +xv 0 kB |
| 00:58.39 | BenUrban | those are my vlc-related USE flags |
| 00:58.50 | SilentSwan | thanks |
| 00:58.58 | SilentSwan | perhaps i'll have another go |
| 00:59.07 | BenUrban | hmm |
| 00:59.17 | BenUrban | nsplugin is the one that's bringing in mozilla, i think |
| 00:59.20 | SilentSwan | meanwhile, i'm going to listen to John Lennon |
| 00:59.30 | SilentSwan | yeahh... you're right.. crap, i forgot about that one |
| 00:59.33 | BenUrban | :) |
| 00:59.39 | SilentSwan | thanks BenUrban :) |
| 00:59.50 | BenUrban | anytime :) |
| 01:00.33 | SilentSwan | yep, sure is |
| 01:01.01 | BenUrban | /etc/portage/package.use |
| 01:01.05 | SilentSwan | yeah |
| 01:01.23 | SilentSwan | BenUrban: have you had any problems with audio lag on mplayer? |
| 01:01.39 | BenUrban | i have problems with audio lag in every program |
| 01:01.46 | SilentSwan | *sigh* |
| 01:01.47 | SilentSwan | unreal |
| 01:01.54 | BenUrban | but then i use esd |
| 01:01.55 | SilentSwan | wanna buy a computer? |
| 01:02.03 | BenUrban | lol how much |
| 01:02.09 | SilentSwan | enough to buy a new mac |
| 01:02.20 | SilentSwan | much as i despise apple,i think i despise this even more |
| 01:02.57 | BenUrban | btw jack is designed for low audio lag |
| 01:03.05 | BenUrban | i plan to eventualy switch to it |
| 01:03.13 | SilentSwan | jack? as opposed to... |
| 01:03.17 | BenUrban | esd |
| 01:03.22 | SilentSwan | this is using alsa |
| 01:03.26 | BenUrban | ... |
| 01:03.53 | BenUrban | must be one of your mplayer settings |
| 01:04.03 | SilentSwan | pft |
| 01:04.06 | SilentSwan | i've tried several |
| 01:04.10 | SilentSwan | no change |
| 01:04.20 | SilentSwan | that's why i'm loading vlc |
| 01:04.22 | BenUrban | try increasing the audio buffer |
| 01:04.27 | SilentSwan | did |
| 01:04.30 | BenUrban | :/ |
| 01:04.33 | BenUrban | try xine |
| 01:04.42 | SilentSwan | i've had bad luck with that before |
| 01:04.47 | BenUrban | if vlc doesn't do what you want |
| 01:04.51 | BenUrban | hmm |
| 01:04.54 | SilentSwan | something tells me it won't |
| 01:05.08 | BenUrban | how long has it been since you last tried xine? |
| 01:05.22 | SilentSwan | maybe about a year... less, maybe.. on SuSE |
| 01:05.26 | BenUrban | ah |
| 01:05.35 | BenUrban | you should forget that experience |
| 01:05.46 | SilentSwan | and prepare for another memorable experience? hehe |
| 01:05.54 | BenUrban | lmao |
| 01:06.25 | BenUrban | depends how much you want to play whatever you want to play |
| 01:06.47 | SilentSwan | that's why i'm suggesting putting this box together was a mistake |
| 01:06.56 | SilentSwan | and i think it's going up for sale |
| 01:07.33 | SilentSwan | cost me $2000 and i feel like i'm back in the 1990's |
| 01:09.12 | SilentSwan | think i'll take my meds and shutup... |
| 01:19.18 | SilentSwan | and vlc just sh*ts itself... nothing |
| 01:21.02 | SilentSwan | ok |
| 01:21.06 | SilentSwan | i'm done |
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| 01:41.29 | cosmos | the irs intends to put a lien on me! its too bad i dont own anything heh |
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| 01:44.14 | cosmos | hey ebert |
| 01:44.20 | EbErT | hello |
| 01:44.23 | Aribeth | hi EbErT |
| 01:44.26 | EbErT | hey |
| 01:44.32 | RPG_ | hello ebert |
| 01:44.42 | EbErT | howdy |
| 01:44.59 | EbErT | lots of people like that new map you put up cosmos |
| 01:45.26 | cosmos | ratlab is popular |
| 01:45.29 | EbErT | is it going to be permanent? |
| 01:45.34 | cosmos | yep |
| 01:45.46 | Aribeth | old map |
| 01:45.59 | EbErT | I had a player complain about the # of bad flags it has currently |
| 01:46.19 | cosmos | it has an equal number of good flags |
| 01:46.39 | EbErT | yeah, I really didn't see a big problem, he said he was getting 3 or more bad ones in a row |
| 01:46.51 | cosmos | he just sucks |
| 01:47.17 | cosmos | ;) |
| 01:47.21 | Aribeth | that happens. the flags tend to clump together |
| 01:47.27 | EbErT | guess so, i'll tell him that... |
| 01:47.29 | EbErT | jk |
| 01:47.31 | orange | some people call flags like F "bad" because they don't understand them |
| 01:47.43 | orange | the only "good" flags to many are GM, SW, G, L |
| 01:47.46 | EbErT | no, he wasn't talking about that |
| 01:47.57 | Aribeth | i like PZ |
| 01:48.06 | EbErT | pz is very nice at ratlab |
| 01:49.33 | EbErT | cosmos: do you know any scripts or such that would automatically take off the bots you put on the map when enough people have joined? |
| 01:49.42 | EbErT | automatically? |
| 01:49.52 | cosmos | there is only one bot i have |
| 01:49.56 | cosmos | that is Hepcat! |
| 01:50.02 | cosmos | hes an admin you cant miss him |
| 01:50.11 | EbErT | really? there were like 2 others earlier |
| 01:50.18 | cosmos | not mine |
| 01:50.31 | EbErT | so yours will be admins- ok |
| 01:50.32 | cosmos | toss em if the server is full |
| 01:50.38 | EbErT | alright |
| 01:50.40 | cosmos | if there are only like 5 players let em stay |
| 01:52.24 | RPG_ | does this sytem look good: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1284196&CatId=492 |
| 01:54.09 | EbErT | not real powerful, but depends on how loud u want it |
| 01:54.32 | RPG_ | i'm debating between a 5.1 or a 2.1 channel system |
| 01:54.50 | RPG_ | i can do 5.1, but I also want good sound at pretty loud, but for around $100 |
| 01:55.52 | cosmos | get a wife. more sound than you will ever want in your life and will certainly cost you plenty |
| 01:56.08 | orchid | EbErT: such a script does exist I believe, the bots leave as soon as a second real player arrives, I just cant remember who had a server like that |
| 01:56.56 | EbErT | I thought thumper might have something that would do that. He has programmed his bots to do lots of various things |
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| 01:57.06 | orchid | cosmos: yes women are noisy and expensive |
| 01:57.17 | cosmos | :) |
| 01:57.22 | orchid | EbErT: yeah might be |
| 01:57.25 | EbErT | rpg: i have these http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,47027,00.asp |
| 01:57.41 | EbErT | they are 2.1, and VERY loud (and precise sounding) |
| 01:58.11 | RPG_ | yeah, i'll go with the 2 channel |
| 01:58.26 | EbErT | I have the older version of these actually, got them for 130 i think (still over 100 th0) |
| 01:58.28 | RPG_ | i've gone though 3 sets of $50 speakers |
| 01:58.39 | orchid | EbErT: I just blew one of my klipsh speakers :-\ I doubt id buy that kind again |
| 01:58.44 | cosmos | anyone need a 3ware 8506-4 raid card? 4 x sata ports, raid0,1,5,10 |
| 01:58.49 | EbErT | really? what kind? |
| 01:58.54 | RPG_ | i have 11 speakers connected to my computer, all that sound like crap |
| 01:59.06 | EbErT | I like mine. Are you sure you didn't just break a fuse or something? |
| 01:59.32 | orchid | EbErT: the 2.1 pro media, my left speaker, the slave one is dead except the tweety |
| 01:59.47 | RPG_ | people are like, " |
| 01:59.50 | EbErT | that stinks |
| 01:59.57 | RPG_ | why are your speakers whispering" |
| 02:00.04 | RPG_ | heh- got split up |
| 02:00.06 | cosmos | because they have a secret |
| 02:00.26 | RPG_ | that secret contains a bunch of static popping |
| 02:00.54 | Aribeth | heh, i pluged my computer into my home sereo once |
| 02:01.12 | Aribeth | blasted everyting |
| 02:01.34 | Aribeth | vibrated the whole house |
| 02:02.05 | EbErT | doh, shoulda turned it off first, then way down until u hear it |
| 02:03.27 | Aribeth | it sounded soo good |
| 02:04.19 | Aribeth | i connect my sereo to the computer to rip lp's |
| 02:04.47 | EbErT | does anyone use itunes? |
| 02:05.02 | Aribeth | i used soundjam |
| 02:05.14 | EbErT | I use it, but it takes up too much cpu! |
| 02:05.53 | Aribeth | i run all my stereo components through a Mackie mixer |
| 02:05.54 | EbErT | I probably need to find an alternative for mac |
| 02:05.56 | RPG_ | pissh itunes |
| 02:06.27 | EbErT | u dissing itunes? none of that |
| 02:06.29 | Aribeth | itunes is really soundjam mp |
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| 02:07.45 | brlcad | was, the diverged quite a bit after the first few releases |
| 02:07.59 | Aribeth | yep |
| 02:08.17 | Aribeth | apple bought them out |
| 02:08.42 | EbErT | can I still get it tho? does it use less cpu? |
| 02:08.59 | Aribeth | i still have it too |
| 02:09.14 | Aribeth | duno about cpu useage though |
| 02:09.41 | Aribeth | i lost all my mp3's when my drive died |
| 02:10.36 | Aribeth | oh well, i still have the LP's |
| 02:11.32 | EbErT | I actually have soundjam, but its for os9 |
| 02:11.48 | Aribeth | same here |
| 02:13.23 | EbErT | I need something for osx |
| 02:13.57 | Aribeth | ummmm...Phase Liner model 4000 preamp nice |
| 02:14.42 | cosmos | ok time to install os x server. bbl |
| 02:16.26 | EbErT | bye |
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| 02:21.42 | a_mistake | hm... |
| 02:21.57 | a_mistake | im a lazy cgi-mirc user :D |
| 02:22.24 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 02:24.34 | a_mistake | im looking for nice ppl, to idle on my server...to push it a bit on the server list :D |
| 02:24.44 | a_mistake | lol |
| 02:24.54 | RPG_ | well, for $7.50 an hour, it may work out |
| 02:25.08 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 02:25.26 | a_mistake | loool |
| 02:26.04 | a_mistake | im running the trampoline map |
| 02:26.08 | a_mistake | nice |
| 02:26.53 | a_mistake | its a nice mapbuilding with the new options |
| 02:28.39 | RPG_ | with my trampolines? |
| 02:28.42 | RPG_ | people actually used those? |
| 02:28.48 | RPG_ | i gotta see this |
| 02:28.52 | RPG_ | what's the hostname of your server? |
| 02:28.56 | a_mistake | mmbg.net |
| 02:29.04 | a_mistake | 1 player....me ;) |
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| 02:40.27 | Aribeth | lol |
| 02:40.57 | Aribeth | i have a phase linear model 400 II amp and a model 2000 preamp |
| 02:41.13 | Aribeth | a 4000 preamp would be nice |
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| 02:44.36 | Aribeth | here is what im looking at http://cgi.ebay.com/Phase-Linear-4000-preamplifier-Bob-Carver-design_W0QQitemZ5826104359QQcategoryZ14974QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 02:50.49 | EbErT | ebay is very bad, it will take all of your money away |
| 02:51.33 | Aribeth | i have sold a lot of stuff on ebay |
| 02:52.11 | Aribeth | i look for really good deals on ebay |
| 02:52.32 | Aribeth | like old 1930's to 1940's radios to restore |
| 02:52.50 | EbErT | Aribeth: I told you about someone trying to sell a land cruiser on my account... |
| 02:53.00 | Aribeth | yep |
| 02:53.17 | EbErT | that won't happen again tho |
| 02:53.29 | Aribeth | i've had good luck though |
| 02:54.36 | EbErT | what's your ebay id? |
| 02:54.49 | Aribeth | vickishields |
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| 02:57.33 | SilentSwan | blah |
| 02:57.38 | SilentSwan | er.. i mean.. hi |
| 02:57.43 | EbErT | ebay is a modern wonder, although it seems to be a monopoly since there is nothing like it |
| 02:57.57 | EbErT | hi swan |
| 02:57.59 | Aribeth | yep |
| 02:58.03 | SilentSwan | hi EbErT |
| 02:58.35 | EbErT | Silent Swan: where did your madcity map go? |
| 02:58.38 | SilentSwan | Aribeth: your back ever heal? |
| 02:58.46 | SilentSwan | EbErT: off to the bit bucket |
| 02:59.08 | EbErT | do you have a server now? |
| 02:59.12 | SilentSwan | the eternal void |
| 02:59.21 | SilentSwan | no, i don't |
| 02:59.28 | Aribeth | ya, my back is getting better |
| 02:59.32 | SilentSwan | good |
| 03:00.54 | SilentSwan | EbErT: i havn't even played the game in over a month.. no point running a server,eh? :) |
| 03:01.56 | EbErT | ya, just thought you might be involved still, as you are on the bzflag channel |
| 03:02.12 | SilentSwan | other than wasting my time here, not really. |
| 03:02.39 | SilentSwan | odd thing is, when i played i never came here. now i don't play and i'm here all the time... |
| 03:02.47 | orchid | :) |
| 03:03.09 | SilentSwan | hey orchid - vmware won't even load on this box... |
| 03:03.29 | EbErT | quick! silence the silent swan |
| 03:03.42 | orchid | hrmf, any meaningful errors? |
| 03:03.49 | SilentSwan | kernel issue |
| 03:03.57 | SilentSwan | 64-bit... vmware can't handle it |
| 03:04.01 | SilentSwan | i dunno |
| 03:04.03 | SilentSwan | i don't care |
| 03:04.08 | SilentSwan | this box is officially for sale |
| 03:05.55 | SilentSwan | well.. i'm tired of staring at this thing. pisses me off the longer i look at it... and mourn the loss of about $2000... |
| 03:05.57 | SilentSwan | bye |
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| 03:06.47 | orchid | aww |
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| 03:30.15 | KingRobotz | Got a question - any of you guys in here ever played the oooold 1980's Mac Game, Bolo? |
| 03:30.45 | orchid | I bet brlcad has |
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| 03:31.03 | bz5791 | i am trying to make my server public but it is not working, any help would be appreciated |
| 03:31.35 | brlcad | hmmm window didn't highlight |
| 03:31.52 | KingRobotz | I'm interested in implementing a feature (or fork, if need be), into bzFlag, something akin to the old Bolo, where players can manipulate the world in realtime. (I.E. building walls, etc.) |
| 03:32.58 | bz5791 | can someone help me |
| 03:33.01 | bz5791 | plz |
| 03:33.17 | KingRobotz | bz5791: Depends on what your problem is - can you be more specific? |
| 03:33.19 | brlcad | KingRobotz: sorry, never played |
| 03:33.28 | orchid | ~bzfs |
| 03:33.29 | ibot | from memory, bzfs is the BZflag server, you need: -publicaddr server.name.com:5154 *and* -public " come play here" must be set in your bzfs.conf, *also* open the port (5154 in this case) in your firewall/router *also* see http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer, or see http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
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| 03:35.05 | bz5791 | well i tell it to '-public [descript] -publicadr [outside ip -- beyond router' and i opened the port and directed it to that machine |
| 03:35.12 | KingRobotz | blrcad: Basically, players had the ability to build / shoot down walls, and create rivers by mining areas near water - all within the game in realtime. It added an incredible strategy element. |
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| 03:36.23 | EbErT | doh, irc crash |
| 03:36.31 | bz5791 | any help |
| 03:36.38 | bz5791 | well i tell it to '-public [descript] -publicadr [outside ip -- beyond router' and i opened the port and directed it to that machine |
| 03:36.39 | orchid | bz5791: any error message? |
| 03:36.43 | bz5791 | one |
| 03:36.45 | bz5791 | none |
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| 03:37.15 | KingRobotz | blrcad: What I'm wondering is if the current codebase would support something like that (dynamic world manipulation) or does it all assume a static world? |
| 03:37.32 | brlcad | assumes a static world |
| 03:37.40 | brlcad | though dynamic worlds have been discussed |
| 03:37.43 | bryjen | bz5791: what's the ip address? |
| 03:37.47 | orchid | bz5791: join the client to 'localhost' see at least of the servers running |
| 03:37.49 | bryjen | and is it running now |
| 03:37.54 | bz5791 | hang on |
| 03:38.07 | brlcad | not a trivial feat to get in a 3d game, and it requires waiting for a protocol break (which just recently occurred) |
| 03:38.13 | bz5791 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.25 | bryjen | ~bzfquery 68.13.25.230:5138 |
| 03:38.40 | bryjen | it is reachable then |
| 03:39.25 | bryjen | did you include the port # on the -publicaddr ? |
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| 03:39.59 | bz5791 | back sry lost connect rebooted router |
| 03:40.03 | bz5791 | so any help |
| 03:40.08 | bryjen | did you include the port # on the -publicaddr ? |
| 03:40.15 | bz5791 | i can connect to it on the local network and YES |
| 03:40.19 | KingRobotz | blrcad: Yes, no doubt it would require a protocol break, and you're right, it's not remotely easy to do - especially in an intuitive manner for the users. I've done a good deal of research/testing on 3D environment manipulation. Do you have references to said past discussions? |
| 03:40.51 | bz5791 | hmmm |
| 03:41.00 | bryjen | can that machine get to http://db.bzflag.org/db?action=LIST |
| 03:41.48 | bz5791 | hang on |
| 03:42.06 | bz5791 | never mind it works |
| 03:42.15 | bz5791 | c ya all gona go test it |
| 03:43.15 | bryjen | heh. yeah, it's in the list. |
| 03:43.19 | brlcad | KingRobotz: oh, there have been lots of dicussions .. you'd have to scan the logs |
| 03:43.22 | brlcad | ~logs |
| 03:43.23 | ibot | somebody said logs was http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 03:44.00 | orange | bryjen: lucky numbers? |
| 03:44.05 | KingRobotz | blrcad: Thanks. |
| 03:44.15 | Aribeth | it all comes down to 42 |
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| 04:17.02 | GDTRFB | any secretplace admins here? |
| 04:17.14 | Aribeth | whats up? |
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| 04:17.30 | GDTRFB | i get a server error when i try to connect...problems? |
| 04:17.59 | Aribeth | works fine for me |
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| 04:18.50 | GDTRFB | hmm...i've tried a half-dozen times in the past hour...same result...can get to other servers fine, too... |
| 04:18.59 | Kaos | hey room whats up |
| 04:20.19 | Aribeth | what name are you using |
| 04:20.27 | Kaos | muahahaha |
| 04:20.45 | GDTRFB | Fickle Finger Of Fate was one... |
| 04:22.22 | EbErT | hey, how do you do messages that are displayed as you quit? |
| 04:23.02 | EbErT | quit irc i mean |
| 04:23.14 | blast007 | type the message after the /quit |
| 04:23.21 | blast007 | or set them up in your IRC client |
| 04:27.18 | Aribeth | GDTRFB, what is your ip addredd? |
| 04:27.32 | Aribeth | er address |
| 04:28.07 | blast007 | 24.207.200.16 I presume :) |
| 04:29.49 | GDTRFB | yep, that's it...good guess...how'd you do that? |
| 04:30.04 | Aribeth | logs |
| 04:30.40 | blast007 | GDTRFB: when you join, it lists your hostname |
| 04:30.53 | blast007 | and in your case, you IP show up inside your hostname |
| 04:31.00 | blast007 | your* |
| 04:31.06 | GDTRFB | right... |
| 04:31.11 | Aribeth | you are not on the ban list |
| 04:31.32 | GDTRFB | right...it's a server error...no mention of banning, etc... |
| 04:31.45 | Aribeth | what is the error message? |
| 04:31.55 | blast007 | can you ping that host? |
| 04:32.23 | GDTRFB | paraphrasing: "failed to connect" |
| 04:32.31 | GDTRFB | "server error" |
| 04:32.36 | Aribeth | try pinging it |
| 04:32.45 | GDTRFB | okie dokie...hold |
| 04:33.22 | Aribeth | ~bzfs bzflag.secretplace.us |
| 04:33.34 | Aribeth | ~bzfsquery bzflag.secretplace.us |
| 04:33.52 | Aribeth | errr...i forget the command |
| 04:33.58 | GDTRFB | 100% return...latency about 130ms... |
| 04:34.09 | blast007 | ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5355 |
| 04:34.52 | blast007 | okay, try running a command prompt, and then run this: telnet bzflag.secretplace.us 5355 |
| 04:35.02 | blast007 | assuming that port 5355 is the one you are trying |
| 04:35.24 | blast007 | if it says something like BZFS0026, then you got to the server |
| 04:35.35 | GDTRFB | Connected...with the prompt you stated... |
| 04:35.57 | blast007 | hmm..strange that the client doesn't work then |
| 04:36.04 | blast007 | what client version? |
| 04:36.26 | GDTRFB | hmmm...2.0.4...let me try it again...i'll check back if it fails...thx! |
| 04:36.33 | blast007 | k |
| 04:39.16 | Aribeth | he got in |
| 04:39.39 | blast007 | cool |
| 04:39.43 | blast007 | random glitch ;) |
| 04:40.01 | Aribeth | i guess, or a bad setting |
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| 05:03.52 | clarknova | is tim riker here? |
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| 05:28.25 | SilverFox | tell me about ME and the -a switch. |
| 05:28.31 | SilverFox | is -a 42 38 agressive enough? |
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| 05:45.21 | gsnedders | hi |
| 05:45.46 | lan56 | hey |
| 05:47.49 | Roxport | howdy |
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| 06:32.53 | Newart | Morning everybody!! |
| 06:33.10 | gsnedders | morning' |
| 06:33.14 | gsnedders | *mornin' |
| 06:33.16 | Roxport | hello |
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| 06:51.48 | Newart | Hows going everybody? |
| 06:58.41 | gsnedders | ill |
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| 07:01.17 | gsnedders | well, you did ask |
| 07:01.29 | gsnedders | _Manu_, morning |
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| 07:40.05 | bz0876 | hey, how do i turn udp on? |
| 07:42.40 | ToughShooter | In 2.0.2 it is under save identity in options menu |
| 07:43.06 | battlefield | ok.. i have 2.0.4.. so it's not on by default??? |
| 07:43.39 | _Manu_ | udp is enabled default.. are you behind a firewall filtering udp packets? |
| 07:44.05 | battlefield | i am behind a router, but i put this box in the dmz |
| 07:44.16 | battlefield | udp packets go through just fine, i verified |
| 07:45.33 | _Manu_ | if happens when connecting every server? |
| 07:45.44 | _Manu_ | s/if/it |
| 07:46.39 | battlefield | ea |
| 07:47.14 | _Manu_ | well bzflag uses udp.. probably there is a problem with your router/firewall |
| 07:48.37 | battlefield | hm probably.. :( |
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| 08:43.00 | kahcepb[Ru] | hehe |
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| 08:43.22 | ToughShooter | ~kahcepb[Ru]++ |
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| 08:47.14 | Kaos | Hey whats up |
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| 08:52.55 | KillerOGO | whats up people |
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| 09:56.49 | bz6774 | hi all |
| 09:56.53 | bz6774 | how are you all |
| 09:57.02 | bz6774 | it is me janis |
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| 14:02.20 | RatOmeter | morning |
| 14:07.22 | RatOmeter | any Windows devs alive this morning? |
| 14:10.36 | Pimpinella | just tell about your problem and hope that somebody reads |
| 14:11.18 | Tupone | sorry ... a lethal virus killed all windows dev :( |
| 14:11.59 | RatOmeter | dang. I must be partially immune since I'm not that great a win dev |
| 14:12.09 | RatOmeter | did have a fever for a while |
| 14:12.30 | RatOmeter | Actually, it's not BZflag related... more like helping my with my homework (work-work, actually) |
| 14:12.31 | Pimpinella | luckily escaped |
| 14:13.39 | Pimpinella | you might want to join #windows then |
| 14:13.49 | RatOmeter | good point |
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| 15:46.30 | SportChick | !weather 90277 |
| 15:46.33 | Guu | SportChick: The current temperature in Weather Underground is 61°F. |
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| 16:03.49 | janis | hi all |
| 16:10.17 | sussi | !weather at home |
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| 16:58.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/ (format_notes.txt src/worldDrawing.cpp): |
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| 17:26.47 | JeffM2501 | well |
| 17:26.52 | JeffM2501 | it's not the bzedit you know and love |
| 17:28.00 | Grumbler | i know, but progress is progress |
| 17:28.11 | Grumbler | whether its the same or not |
| 17:40.17 | JeffM2501 | hehe |
| 17:40.23 | JeffM2501 | well we'll see where it goes |
| 17:50.55 | JeffM2501 | my bigest problem now is geting the rendering to work like it does in BZ |
| 17:51.00 | JeffM2501 | the box alone is wacky |
| 18:02.35 | jpa- | make bzflag rendering work like bzedit :) |
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| 18:11.41 | arse_ian | hi folks |
| 18:11.46 | JeffM2501 | hell |
| 18:11.52 | JeffM2501 | hello even :0 |
| 18:12.09 | arse_ian | haha hello Jeff |
| 18:13.03 | arse_ian | use public list server what do i put in this box? |
| 18:13.24 | JeffM2501 | for client or server? |
| 18:13.37 | arse_ian | server |
| 18:13.48 | JeffM2501 | -public "some server description" |
| 18:14.24 | JeffM2501 | that will list you under your IP |
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| 18:14.32 | JeffM2501 | asuming your on the default port |
| 18:14.35 | arse_ian | indeedy, thats ok if your doing it long hand, was trying to use the Config Builder |
| 18:14.53 | JeffM2501 | then it should have a public description part |
| 18:14.54 | JeffM2501 | just do that |
| 18:14.59 | JeffM2501 | that's the minimum for publicness |
| 18:15.02 | arse_ian | k |
| 18:15.06 | bryjen | leave that one blank, it'll do the default |
| 18:15.21 | JeffM2501 | the config builder just makes command line arts |
| 18:15.23 | JeffM2501 | args |
| 18:15.26 | arse_ian | thats it bryjen........i like that one :) |
| 18:15.37 | JeffM2501 | don't even know if it's current |
| 18:15.48 | arse_ian | aha me see |
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| 18:17.17 | bryjen | "Use Public List Server" should be left blank. "Public Description" needs to be filled in. |
| 18:17.29 | arse_ian | ta guys, I'll keep this slot open |
| 18:17.52 | JeffM2501 | ahh the use one is for -publiclist, yeah you don't want that |
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| 18:24.43 | arse_ian | quite a nifty gui that init? pitty I learnt the hard way........grrr heheh |
| 18:27.29 | arse_ian | earning shed loads |
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| 18:32.01 | arse_ian | laters. i'll kill you all no doubt sometime...thanks again cya |
| 18:32.13 | JeffM2501 | have fun |
| 18:33.51 | arse_ian | erm when does the fun stop? SGI terminals seem so long ago............ekk it was |
| 18:34.03 | Tupone | arse_ian: Jeff is very hard to kill |
| 18:34.14 | JeffM2501 | very |
| 18:34.21 | JeffM2501 | best dodging system in game |
| 18:34.32 | JeffM2501 | totaly invisibilty |
| 18:34.36 | Tupone | lol |
| 18:34.52 | JeffM2501 | Tim pefected it |
| 18:34.54 | jpa- | if (nick=="jeff") discardMsgShot(); |
| 18:35.04 | JeffM2501 | I am just his humble student |
| 18:35.09 | Tupone | hehe, I was able to kill Tim sometime |
| 18:35.30 | Tupone | more then 1 years ago |
| 18:35.33 | arse_ian | laters code heads |
| 18:35.34 | JeffM2501 | jpa-, even better then that, it works on every client, every version, regardless of the code |
| 18:35.42 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, that was pat |
| 18:35.50 | DTRemenak | whoops, my bad :) |
| 18:35.56 | JeffM2501 | pat sucked |
| 18:35.57 | DTRemenak | has it been so long? |
| 18:36.21 | JeffM2501 | ibot, seen patlabor221 |
| 18:36.29 | ibot | patlabor221 <~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 269d 19h 37m 5s ago, saying: 'totaly'. |
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| 18:36.33 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 18:36.35 | JeffM2501 | yes it has |
| 18:37.02 | JeffM2501 | christmas will be a year IIRC |
| 18:37.33 | JeffM2501 | man, somone drew rotations on my unit cube :( |
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| 18:49.30 | ToughShooter | menotume: ping |
| 18:49.54 | menotume | pong |
| 18:50.06 | ToughShooter | finally :) |
| 18:50.49 | Tupone | DTRemenak: you still got the killing license ? |
| 18:51.25 | DTRemenak | Tupone: I always have a License to Kill |
| 18:51.47 | Tupone | hmm that, but no voice :) |
| 18:52.10 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
| 18:52.29 | DTRemenak | ah, that's better |
| 18:52.50 | DTRemenak | Tupone, happy now? :) |
| 18:53.11 | Tupone | lol, just looking at your user :) agent007 |
| 18:56.00 | JeffM2501 | no DTRemenak I expect you to DIE! ;) |
| 18:56.16 | JeffM2501 | whoa that works? |
| 18:57.11 | DTRemenak | sure, why not? |
| 18:57.24 | bryjen | JeffM2501 doesn't fool around with big lasers |
| 18:57.59 | JeffM2501 | actualy DTRemenak has a higher posiblity of fooling around wtih big lasers then I do |
| 18:58.22 | DTRemenak | there's a real big one about 100 meters from here |
| 18:58.26 | JeffM2501 | see |
| 18:58.30 | bryjen | as in "let me tell you all my evil plan whilest waiting for some elaborate contraption to kill you" |
| 18:59.01 | JeffM2501 | tho I could probably get a CNC mill set up to drive sliwly up thru his crotch |
| 18:59.17 | JeffM2501 | but then the coolant would let you slip thru your bonds |
| 19:01.46 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/src/worldDrawing.cpp: UV Coords for roof and floor |
| 19:02.05 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/src/ilImageLoader.cpp: ws |
| 19:02.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/vc71/mapedit.vcproj: copy debug exe to a place that can find the textures |
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| 19:08.26 | gsnedders | has anyone else ever typed .kegstats? |
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| 19:25.40 | RatOmeter | [not BZFlag related]: any windows dev know how to detect if there is a USB storage device (as opposed to non-storage USB device or no USB device) attached? |
| 19:27.46 | Birdie | ibot test |
| 19:27.47 | ibot | Test Passed! |
| 19:30.55 | blast007 | RatOmeter: this might help: http://www.lvr.com/mass_storage.htm |
| 19:31.59 | blast007 | the key word is might :) |
| 19:32.09 | blast007 | I've never done anything with that subject |
| 19:34.28 | JeffM2501 | there are probably APIs to enumerate disks |
| 19:34.32 | JeffM2501 | and get info on them |
| 19:34.40 | JeffM2501 | and see if one is on a USB subsystem |
| 19:35.10 | JeffM2501 | why do you need a USB device? |
| 19:49.56 | RatOmeter | "Not BZFlag" related. |
| 19:50.17 | RatOmeter | I work at the engineering college at a university where we've got about 400 lab PCs. This semester, about 20 students have lost their USB drives by forgetting to take them when they log off and leave... |
| 19:50.26 | RatOmeter | Usually, another student find it and keeps it. We'd like to hook the log off (or CTL-ALT-DEL) sequence and displace a large message reminding them to take their USB device (if installed) |
| 19:50.40 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 19:50.43 | JeffM2501 | interesting |
| 19:50.52 | RatOmeter | got the first part licked... pretty sure the 2nd part is doable |
| 19:50.53 | JeffM2501 | I woudl look for device manager API stuff |
| 19:51.03 | JeffM2501 | you should be able to walk the USB device tree |
| 19:51.10 | JeffM2501 | and find USB mass storage devices |
| 19:51.16 | RatOmeter | yah. I know I should have done more "due diligence" before bugging others with this |
| 19:53.20 | RatOmeter | made an eye-catching graphic for it: http://139.78.95.188/usbdrive.jpg |
| 19:56.51 | JeffM2501 | why don't you just show it ALL the time |
| 19:57.21 | JeffM2501 | or if you know what the drives on the systems are ( like you allways have a C and D ) just check if there are any other drive letters |
| 19:58.33 | devster | RatOmeter: my uni has that |
| 19:59.04 | RatOmeter | 1st incarnation is showing it all the time (for about 10 seconds during logoff). Going by drive letters could be tricky since we've got at least 3 different hdware platforms supported |
| 19:59.22 | devster | altho it only does it on linux afaik :P |
| 20:00.16 | RatOmeter | devster: interesting. It'd be neat to see how that works. [not much Linux presence at this uni, unfortunately] |
| 20:00.19 | ToughShooter | all computers on my university are not accepting foreign USB devices... |
| 20:01.08 | devster | RatOmeter: well as you need root to mount things not in /etc/fstab, it'll just do a check on the df output for the allowed/specified flash disk mount points. if something is returned, the disk is still mounted |
| 20:01.29 | RatOmeter | heh. We discourage students leaving their stuff/work on our PCs, so we give them FTP space (but most don't bother to use it) and we allow removable media |
| 20:01.30 | devster | RatOmeter: however, i dont think it knows if you unmount it, but leave it connected |
| 20:01.54 | RatOmeter | probably the same for windows |
| 20:01.55 | devster | i think we can use pretty much anything we want |
| 20:02.34 | JeffM2501 | bluetooth underpants |
| 20:02.45 | devster | RatOmeter: i'm thinking something that checks for new devices, and keep a record and if they log off without removing it, it shows the image |
| 20:04.07 | RatOmeter | thanks for the tips. For now, I'll just have it displayed at logoff unconditionally and keep on searching for the appropriate API(s) |
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| 21:10.12 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (GameKeeper.cxx GameKeeper.h bzfs.cxx): Double checking GM update |
| 21:13.12 | TD-Linux | this is really irritatiing.. I spend 4 hours downloading and setting up vc8, and it won't compile bzflag, then I download dev-c++ in 2 minutes and everything works flawlessly... well, that's M$ for me :) |
| 21:14.29 | BenUrban | for someone whose nick contains "Linux", you sure don't seem to have much problem with vc ;) |
| 21:15.15 | TD-Linux | prob is, my only good computer for bzflag is 100% a single 250GB ntfs partition |
| 21:15.43 | TD-Linux | aww... it failed |
| 21:15.46 | TD-Linux | some sdl problem |
| 21:15.56 | TD-Linux | do i need to download sdl too? |
| 21:16.14 | Tupone | TD-Linux: use the force .. eem ...MingW32 |
| 21:16.39 | Tupone | and even SDL |
| 21:17.05 | TD-Linux | huh? I have no idea how to compile for windows... could you explain more? |
| 21:18.25 | Tupone | MinGW32 is the same as in linux, shell |
| 21:18.47 | TD-Linux | I never have had to use MinGW32 in linux |
| 21:18.51 | DTRemenak | read README.MingW32. MSYS will be fairly familiar. |
| 21:18.51 | Tupone | ahh you could even compile bzflag in linux and run on windows :) but nobody tested except me |
| 21:19.29 | TD-Linux | hmm... my linux computer is 600mhz and my windows one is 3.4ghz... I don't think so :) |
| 21:20.49 | DTRemenak | you should be able to do the other way around too |
| 21:20.55 | DTRemenak | but even Tupone has not tested that :) |
| 21:21.17 | Tupone | MINGW32 run on windows, so you will build there |
| 21:21.25 | Tupone | with all the speed |
| 21:22.07 | DTRemenak | mingw is about 10x slower than the linux build thogh |
| 21:22.20 | Tupone | DTRemenak: TD-Linux found a problem on a missing #include <errno.h> . If errno.h is available everywhere we should add |
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| 21:24.03 | DTRemenak | Tupone, errno is available everywhere |
| 21:24.30 | Tupone | so we should add, and test . I don't remember where is missing :( |
| 21:25.55 | TD-Linux | oh yeah, and fyi, compile on vc8 dosen't work, that's why I'm using this dev-c++ stuff |
| 21:25.57 | brlcad | errno is available, sys_errlist isn't necessarily available (sysv-ism, e.g. solaris) |
| 21:26.08 | Tupone | I just remeber is related to some ENOENT not defined |
| 21:26.18 | BenUrban | TD-Linux: try using a livecd to compile on your windows box |
| 21:26.27 | BenUrban | better still, swap the hard drives |
| 21:26.33 | BenUrban | :D |
| 21:27.23 | TD-Linux | BenUrban: then what do I do with the exe once I have it? |
| 21:27.36 | BenUrban | exe? |
| 21:27.49 | TD-Linux | BenUrban : if I was to compile with a livecd |
| 21:28.01 | TD-Linux | BenUrban: can livecds access ntfs partitions? |
| 21:28.26 | BenUrban | if you did manage to cross-compile a windows exe, you could transfer it to your linux box |
| 21:28.53 | BenUrban | but the hard part would be cross-compiling within a livecd environment, i think |
| 21:29.25 | BenUrban | not that i'd know |
| 21:34.11 | TD-Linux | my dev-C++ is working anyway |
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| 21:34.37 | TD-Linux | ShockWaveStragegy.cxx? |
| 21:34.48 | TD-Linux | that intrigues me |
| 21:34.59 | TD-Linux | *strategy.cxx |
| 21:37.15 | TD-Linux | I got an error in SDLDisplay.cxx |
| 21:37.29 | TD-Linux | WHEELUP, WHEELDOWN, and STEREO undefined |
| 21:40.34 | TD-Linux | this is almost as bad as vc++ |
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| 21:44.35 | bz5853 | what do i have to do to get my groupfiles to work |
| 21:44.44 | bz5853 | it says the program has unexpectedly exited |
| 21:44.48 | bz5853 | any help? |
| 21:46.10 | bz5853 | hello? |
| 21:47.44 | bz5853 | ok |
| 21:48.40 | TD-Linux | this is the least active time of day here |
| 21:49.20 | bz5853 | ok |
| 21:51.17 | TD-Linux | nvm, this is the most active time of day, actaully :) |
| 21:52.15 | Tupone | TD-Linux: what SDL version? |
| 21:53.04 | TD-Linux | 1.2.4 |
| 21:54.51 | Tupone | 1.2.4 !!!! where did you get that? portobello? |
| 21:55.49 | JeffM2501 | wow that's old |
| 21:56.25 | JeffM2501 | how goes italia there Tupone? |
| 21:56.56 | Tupone | can go better |
| 21:57.10 | JeffM2501 | what's the weather like there these days? |
| 21:57.58 | Tupone | well, not talking about the weather. Weather is pretty charming, except today |
| 21:58.05 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 21:58.09 | JeffM2501 | bad things there now? |
| 21:58.33 | Tupone | well, I hope we can cure. I mean all Italian people |
| 21:58.52 | TD-Linux | JeffM2501: will bzflag be made compatable with VC8 once it becomes stable? |
| 21:58.59 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, probably |
| 21:59.11 | JeffM2501 | I'd expect VC8 support in 2.2 |
| 21:59.29 | JeffM2501 | basicly when ether DTRemenak or myself get 2k5 |
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| 21:59.39 | JeffM2501 | tho I should just go get it and see what i can do to update |
| 21:59.43 | JeffM2501 | maybe I'll do that tonight |
| 21:59.47 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501, is it released yet? |
| 21:59.50 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:59.53 | JeffM2501 | IIRC |
| 21:59.57 | JeffM2501 | couple weeks ago |
| 22:00.09 | JeffM2501 | haven't really had any desire to bust it out tho |
| 22:00.25 | DTRemenak | maybe I'll upgrade tonight then |
| 22:00.37 | TD-Linux | yay! 1.2.9 sdl works now |
| 22:00.51 | TD-Linux | I have 2k5 |
| 22:00.58 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, I worry about VC7.1 to 8 compatability tho |
| 22:01.14 | TD-Linux | vc8 has a conversion wizard that works well |
| 22:01.15 | JeffM2501 | I hope upgrading dosn't hoze it for the 71 |
| 22:01.21 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501, I'm gonna install them side-by-side and see if I can get it all to cooperate |
| 22:01.23 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, what about backwareds |
| 22:01.33 | TD-Linux | I'm not sure... |
| 22:01.36 | TD-Linux | probably not |
| 22:01.40 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, I hope you can, 71 and 6 side by side is easy |
| 22:01.44 | TD-Linux | you would have to make two side-by-side |
| 22:01.46 | JeffM2501 | they used difrent extensions |
| 22:02.03 | TD-Linux | 7 and 8 use different extensions |
| 22:02.03 | JeffM2501 | we can do a VC8 dir if we must |
| 22:02.06 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501, separate project files probably |
| 22:02.17 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, what is the extension for 8? |
| 22:02.29 | JeffM2501 | if they use difrent projects then yes we split again |
| 22:02.40 | JeffM2501 | we got rid of 6, so we'd still have 2 |
| 22:02.48 | JeffM2501 | 8 may be good as a primary for the free express thing |
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| 22:03.20 | TD-Linux | bzflag.sln |
| 22:03.33 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, thats the same as 71 |
| 22:03.39 | TD-Linux | oh... but the icons differentiate |
| 22:03.40 | DTRemenak | be back in a few minutes |
| 22:03.49 | TD-Linux | different icon for 7 and 8, that must be some fancy windows trick |
| 22:04.00 | JeffM2501 | icon" |
| 22:04.03 | JeffM2501 | whopty do |
| 22:04.12 | JeffM2501 | the icon has nothing to do with the project structure |
| 22:04.27 | JeffM2501 | side by side is going to be a pita then |
| 22:04.32 | TD-Linux | vc8 express is nice, same as the real thing |
| 22:04.39 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 22:04.47 | TD-Linux | but you have to do tricks to install the windows sdk in it |
| 22:04.54 | JeffM2501 | no you don't |
| 22:04.59 | JeffM2501 | you just have to install it |
| 22:05.00 | TD-Linux | you have to open about 4 files in a text editor and mess with them |
| 22:05.01 | JeffM2501 | and set the paths |
| 22:05.03 | JeffM2501 | no "tricks" |
| 22:05.08 | TD-Linux | the path dialog has been removed |
| 22:05.11 | TD-Linux | as of b2 |
| 22:05.24 | TD-Linux | you have to modify some files to set paths |
| 22:05.28 | JeffM2501 | then seting the path is difrent |
| 22:05.33 | JeffM2501 | it's not a trick |
| 22:05.36 | Thumper_ | hmm is the forum sick? --> phpBB : Critical Error |
| 22:05.37 | Thumper_ | Could not connect to the database |
| 22:05.39 | JeffM2501 | you have to set paths for many things |
| 22:06.00 | JeffM2501 | Thumper_, probably |
| 22:06.04 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 22:06.08 | Thumper_ | ok thought so |
| 22:06.12 | menotume | same on the league site - too many sql connections |
| 22:06.17 | menotume | just hit refesh |
| 22:06.18 | TD-Linux | under VC++ directories... |
| 22:06.23 | TD-Linux | a blank tab |
| 22:06.32 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: plugins... is there a way to intercept reports (like player chat msgs) ? |
| 22:06.38 | TD-Linux | except for platform and a direcotry sort |
| 22:06.44 | JeffM2501 | Thumper_, you can get every chat message |
| 22:06.47 | JeffM2501 | that's about it |
| 22:07.00 | TD-Linux | vc8 compile spits out 18 errors in regerror.c |
| 22:07.04 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, I don't realy care much about the express version now |
| 22:07.14 | JeffM2501 | I'll worry about it when I do the upgrade |
| 22:08.06 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 22:08.20 | ToughShooter | trepan: In case it is of your interest: I was able to make kahcepb[Ru] get stuck, too where he did not get stuck before (he uses Linux on x86). |
| 22:08.22 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: um so that's a 'no' then :D |
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| 22:08.32 | TD-Linux | I got a link error: cannot find 'lcurl' |
| 22:08.38 | JeffM2501 | Thumper_, if you don't see the API for it, then no |
| 22:08.46 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, probalby because you dont' ahve it |
| 22:08.51 | TD-Linux | I do... |
| 22:08.54 | JeffM2501 | Thumper_, there are no "Secret" API functions |
| 22:08.56 | TD-Linux | I mean '-lcurl' |
| 22:08.59 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, then you don't have it set up right |
| 22:09.04 | JeffM2501 | it dosnt' work |
| 22:09.12 | JeffM2501 | telling me all the errors does not help |
| 22:09.21 | JeffM2501 | I'll see them for myself |
| 22:09.24 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: I wasn't implying that there were... just wondering since report is tied to TALK.. maybe reports should use the chat api too |
| 22:09.32 | Thumper_ | or have something completely separate |
| 22:09.46 | JeffM2501 | try and see |
| 22:09.59 | JeffM2501 | I don't know how a report is processed |
| 22:10.02 | JeffM2501 | if it's a / command |
| 22:10.05 | JeffM2501 | then it's not chat |
| 22:10.09 | Thumper_ | it is |
| 22:10.10 | JeffM2501 | and dosn't go via a chat message |
| 22:10.16 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.19 | JeffM2501 | we don't have handlers for all / commands |
| 22:10.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerStartMenu.cxx: Adding errno.h include |
| 22:10.29 | JeffM2501 | then add an event for the report / command |
| 22:10.35 | Thumper_ | but it is also tied to the TALK privilege (but we all know that has nothing to do with anything) |
| 22:10.46 | JeffM2501 | perms are used all over |
| 22:10.58 | JeffM2501 | just because a / command checks talk, dosn't mean the chat goes thru the chat inteface |
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| 22:11.06 | JeffM2501 | I woudl treat it like a / command |
| 22:11.09 | JeffM2501 | and add a new handler |
| 22:11.11 | Thumper_ | absolutely :) |
| 22:11.22 | JeffM2501 | and the forums are back |
| 22:11.36 | Thumper_ | ok thx. I'm just trying to figure out the best way to deal with this (for some definition of 'best') |
| 22:11.43 | Thumper_ | thx |
| 22:11.45 | JeffM2501 | consistency is best |
| 22:11.53 | Thumper_ | well we lost that batter ;) |
| 22:11.55 | JeffM2501 | so just like the other / command handlers we have, |
| 22:11.55 | Thumper_ | battle* |
| 22:12.06 | JeffM2501 | dosn't mean we should make it worse |
| 22:12.12 | JeffM2501 | things should be explicit |
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| 22:12.44 | Thumper_ | the reason I'm talking about this in the first place... is I have a bunch of bzfs server patches |
| 22:12.51 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 22:12.51 | Thumper_ | I'd like to replace with functionally equivalent plugins |
| 22:13.02 | JeffM2501 | a fair goal :) |
| 22:13.40 | Thumper_ | and so far I'm just planning |
| 22:15.37 | Thumper_ | well that didn't last long :) |
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| 22:46.29 | TD-Linux | my copy of msys didn't come with msys.bat! |
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| 23:16.10 | conanhome | hi all |
| 23:17.42 | conanhome | i'm wondering if has pop up the issue of having a text bzflag client |
| 23:17.49 | conanhome | or maybe a radar only mode client |
| 23:18.24 | conanhome | i'm wondering if that got ever discussed |
| 23:19.20 | RPG_ | "a text bzflag client" - that's BZAdmin |
| 23:19.55 | Pimpi | i don't think thats what he was thinking of |
| 23:20.16 | RPG_ | you mean a client that draws graphics, but only has the console? |
| 23:21.14 | JeffM2501 | the only playable game client is the openGL one |
| 23:21.28 | JeffM2501 | other people have talked the talk about making 2d ones, or whatnot, but nothing has come of it |
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| 23:26.18 | conanhome | hum... |
| 23:26.35 | conanhome | forget the word "text" |
| 23:26.35 | Guu | I've never heard of the word "text", conanhome! |
| 23:26.39 | conanhome | let's go again |
| 23:26.40 | JeffM2501 | I personaly don't think there would be any real use for it |
| 23:26.54 | conanhome | what about a radar only mode client |
| 23:26.56 | conanhome | ? |
| 23:27.15 | JeffM2501 | like I say |
| 23:27.16 | RPG_ | answer this critical question: Why? |
| 23:27.19 | JeffM2501 | people have talked the talk |
| 23:27.22 | JeffM2501 | but noone has made it |
| 23:27.24 | JeffM2501 | bzflag is a 3d game |
| 23:27.44 | conanhome | JeffM2501: thats what im interested, on what list have they talked about this 2d client?? a devs one? |
| 23:28.06 | JeffM2501 | it's just been people talking the talk |
| 23:28.08 | JeffM2501 | no real devs |
| 23:28.10 | JeffM2501 | just people |
| 23:28.24 | JeffM2501 | there never has been serious discussion of it by any of us |
| 23:28.41 | conanhome | RPG_: this is your answer: i wanna play from this machine and dont support a playable client like bzflag |
| 23:29.02 | JeffM2501 | then don't play 3d action games from that machine |
| 23:29.14 | conanhome | JeffM2501: hum... so i belong to that category, more ppl doing talking |
| 23:29.26 | JeffM2501 | depends what you do with it |
| 23:29.32 | JeffM2501 | the soruce is there for you to make one if you wish |
| 23:29.41 | JeffM2501 | all the current drawing code is openGL |
| 23:29.51 | conanhome | JeffM2501: yep, thats what i'd been thinking |
| 23:30.01 | JeffM2501 | so it would not be a trival task to port it to another drawing system |
| 23:30.30 | conanhome | sometime ago me and a couple of friends have been planing a bzflag clon, radar only, simplified game |
| 23:30.46 | JeffM2501 | it's called "COMBAT" atari made it long ago :) |
| 23:30.50 | conanhome | and even got something working, one canon, bullets... |
| 23:30.58 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 23:31.26 | conanhome | but then we miss motivation |
| 23:31.38 | conanhome | now i think that something like this maybe got us further |
| 23:32.14 | JeffM2501 | many bzflag maps are 3d |
| 23:32.30 | conanhome | JeffM2501: i think i dont need the opengl code, all i need is the information from the servers, and of course, this client only gonna play some kind o maps |
| 23:32.43 | JeffM2501 | that is mixed into the openGL code :) |
| 23:32.49 | conanhome | but the ones i've seen on ducati style games are playable by this kind of client |
| 23:32.56 | JeffM2501 | you can get it all, but like I say, it will be non trivial |
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| 23:35.43 | blast007 | http://the.cyber0ne.com:83/WTF/bzascii.txt (just a joke from quite a while ago) |
| 23:37.10 | conanhome | blast007: nice :) |
| 23:38.22 | silverfox | Anyone else have problems with segfaults in bzadmin when running "/quit" from the command line? |
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| 23:39.18 | silverfox | ie, bzadmin user@host "/say 10 minutes left" "/quit" |
| 23:41.27 | *** part/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:44.02 | DTRemenak_lap | silverfox: why are you using /quit on the commandline anyway? |
| 23:44.20 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (n=Tupone@pdpc/supporter/active/Tupone) |
| 23:45.29 | DTRemenak_lap | silverfox: "You can specify messages and commands to send to the server on the command line. If any such commands are specified, bzadmin will exit as soon as those commands have been sent, without starting a user interface." |
| 23:45.46 | DTRemenak_lap | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.03 | trepan | DTRemenak_lap: think that that might have been changed |
| 23:46.11 | trepan | if not, it should be |
| 23:46.17 | DTRemenak_lap | trepan: if it has, then the manpage should be changed |
| 23:46.23 | *** join/#bzflag Goliath (n=foo@ppp-69-237-90-31.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) |
| 23:46.38 | blast007 | last time I tried, I had to specify a /quit |
| 23:47.11 | silverfox | DTRemenak, no I don't think so. |
| 23:47.33 | silverfox | bzadmin user@host "/say 10 minutes left" does not exit after doing the /say |
| 23:48.39 | silverfox | http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/BzAdmin says it will exit after the command, but that doesn't seem to be the case with 2.0.4 |
| 23:48.54 | trepan | the auth. holdoff makes the cmd line cmds kinda awkward |
| 23:49.11 | conanhome | is silvercat.tybox.net down?? |
| 23:49.15 | silverfox | I see. They want to execute before auth? |
| 23:49.20 | silverfox | conanhome, no its up. |
| 23:49.58 | conanhome | silverfox: cant connect with bzadmin just a minute ago, is silvercat.tybox.net:5154 , isnt it? |
| 23:50.23 | trepan | silverfox: i'm using /quit without segvs |
| 23:50.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/man/bzadmin.6.in: bzadmin does not quit after running commands specified by cli |
| 23:51.05 | DTRemenak_lap | I'm not in a place to backsync that to v2_0branch right now. |
| 23:53.02 | silverfox | conanhome, your IP is in a block that has been banned due to a guy named "Pat Labor has 3 nipples" for cheating. |
| 23:53.31 | conanhome | silverfox: what! |
| 23:53.51 | blast007 | silverfox: that would be Knightmare iirc |
| 23:53.56 | silverfox | actually, I take that back. You're in a adjacent block. You should be able to connect just fine. What error message are you getting? |
| 23:54.39 | silverfox | trepan, what do you suggest? |
| 23:55.40 | conanhome | silverfox: im accesing from my lug server, since my home machine is down, this server cant be used to play, how can someone cheat? |
| 23:55.56 | conanhome | silverfox: and i think this ip isnt dynamic |
| 23:56.04 | trepan | silverfox: just got a SEGV, appears related to the admin ipinfo |
| 23:56.49 | *** join/#bzflag Erroneous (n=DTRemena@mystic.caltech.edu) |
| 23:56.52 | silverfox | about getting bzadmin to quit after running a command, that is. |
| 23:57.28 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v DTRemenak_lap] by ChanServ |
| 23:59.42 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak_lap, I gots 5 hours dl still on 2k5 :( |
