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00:34.32 | TD-Linux | die, TD-Linux_ |
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00:59.11 | JeffM2501 | ahhh Mr. Oakenfold sure can turn a nice tune |
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01:01.32 | Inferno285 | hi... |
01:01.49 | JeffM2501 | Tell me, tell me.. is life just a playground? |
01:02.06 | Inferno285 | can someone scroll up and tell me what brlcad told me to do after "batxh" |
01:02.10 | Inferno285 | "batch" |
01:02.15 | JeffM2501 | think you'r the real deal honney, and somone will allways look after you? |
01:02.33 | Inferno285 | are you talking to me? |
01:02.45 | JeffM2501 | wake up baby, your's so totaly diluted, you'll end up alone and lonely, if you don't get a bullet in your head |
01:02.57 | Inferno285 | ok |
01:03.03 | JeffM2501 | good luck... good luck in your new bed. |
01:03.17 | JeffM2501 | enjoy your nightmares, when you a restin your head. |
01:04.14 | Inferno285 | ~logs |
01:04.15 | ibot | hmm... logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
01:04.56 | Inferno285 | Jeff, what the hell are you talking about? |
01:05.32 | blast007 | Inferno285: the logs won't show up until a day later, and Jeff is probably reciting the lyrics from a song or something ;) |
01:06.31 | blast007 | and in my logs, I don't see "batch" |
01:06.37 | blast007 | except for where you said it |
01:06.49 | Inferno285 | hm, ok |
01:06.52 | blast007 | have something else that was nearby? |
01:06.56 | devster | Inferno285: he said 'bash' then 'gmake 2>&1 | tee build.log' |
01:07.17 | blast007 | ah, thx devster :) |
01:07.29 | Inferno285 | thanks alot devstart :) |
01:07.51 | Inferno285 | my head is really fried today..not enough sleep |
01:07.52 | JeffM2501 | Inferno285, you should get your client to log |
01:08.03 | JeffM2501 | it's all them nightmares in your beed |
01:08.15 | Inferno285 | lol |
01:10.10 | JeffM2501 | gaim should log for you |
01:10.30 | Inferno285 | yeh, I looked into. Is now logging :) |
01:12.13 | JeffM2501 | I scrolled all the way up and didn't see "batch" |
01:12.47 | blast007 | it was bash |
01:12.54 | JeffM2501 | agg |
01:12.56 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
01:12.56 | blast007 | devster found it |
01:12.59 | JeffM2501 | first thing i see is |
01:13.14 | JeffM2501 | <Inferno285> I didn't know I could do that with a goat. |
01:13.22 | blast007 | lol |
01:13.32 | Inferno285 | eh? |
01:13.38 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
01:14.16 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: are plugins loadable and unloadable at runtime? |
01:14.28 | JeffM2501 | yes |
01:14.36 | JeffM2501 | /loadplugin |
01:14.54 | Thumper_ | that command is missing from /? |
01:14.58 | Thumper_ | that's why I can't find it |
01:15.03 | Thumper_ | :) |
01:15.05 | JeffM2501 | then your client does not have plugin support |
01:15.09 | Thumper_ | yes it does |
01:15.11 | Thumper_ | I'm using it |
01:15.13 | JeffM2501 | oh |
01:15.18 | JeffM2501 | it's a cutom command |
01:15.25 | Thumper_ | v2_0branch |
01:15.25 | JeffM2501 | so it dosn't list like the others |
01:15.28 | Thumper_ | ok |
01:15.36 | JeffM2501 | the / needs to know to list thru the custom commands too |
01:15.47 | JeffM2501 | basicly the API itself loads the command the same way a plugin would |
01:15.52 | Thumper_ | ok |
01:16.13 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
01:16.34 | Thumper_ | yup |
01:16.36 | JeffM2501 | should be |
01:16.41 | Thumper_ | ok thx |
01:16.42 | JeffM2501 | check bzPlugins.cxx |
01:16.46 | JeffM2501 | it has them all |
01:16.55 | Thumper_ | I thought there was a way (from the API description) just couldn't figure it out |
01:17.06 | Thumper_ | k |
01:17.08 | Thumper_ | thx |
01:17.24 | Thumper_ | now we return to our regular programming.... |
01:18.20 | JeffM2501 | And they say that a hero can save us.. I'm not going to stand here and wait |
01:18.30 | JeffM2501 | I hold on to the wings of the eagles, watching as love flys away |
01:18.43 | Inferno285 | is that a song? |
01:19.00 | JeffM2501 | what does your heart tell you? |
01:19.22 | Inferno285 | I donno, what about you ;) |
01:19.32 | JeffM2501 | I do know |
01:19.42 | Thumper_ | :D |
01:20.33 | JeffM2501 | Mary belongs to the words of a song |
01:20.41 | JeffM2501 | I try to be strong for her, try not to be wrong for her |
01:20.48 | JeffM2501 | but she will not wait for me anymore |
01:20.49 | JeffM2501 | anymore |
01:21.05 | JeffM2501 | why did I say all those things before? |
01:21.07 | JeffM2501 | I was sure |
01:21.10 | JeffM2501 | she is the one |
01:21.22 | JeffM2501 | but I have a puropuse |
01:21.25 | Inferno285 | metal? |
01:21.29 | JeffM2501 | the villian I can't knock down |
01:21.31 | trepan | no, spam |
01:21.35 | JeffM2501 | :0 |
01:21.40 | JeffM2501 | as you wish my leige |
01:22.01 | JeffM2501 | tis late in the day |
01:22.06 | Inferno285 | trepan, why aren't you an admin? |
01:22.08 | JeffM2501 | mental degousing |
01:22.15 | JeffM2501 | he's to smart to be an admin |
01:22.20 | Inferno285 | ~trepan++ |
01:22.54 | trepan | because i'm surly |
01:23.03 | JeffM2501 | he's a manly man |
01:23.21 | Inferno285 | ibot doesn't respond when I IM him? |
01:23.56 | JeffM2501 | ibot is on instant messanger? |
01:24.06 | Inferno285 | ...PM... |
01:24.06 | teh_conquerer | omfgwtf |
01:24.14 | JeffM2501 | d00d |
01:24.14 | Ice_Wewe | wooo |
01:24.18 | Ice_Wewe | calm down |
01:24.31 | JeffM2501 | look who's talking |
01:24.40 | Ice_Wewe | I don't do those things |
01:24.46 | Birdie | ahem |
01:24.48 | JeffM2501 | riiiighhht |
01:24.50 | Ice_Wewe | I consider myself to be mildy annoying |
01:25.02 | Ice_Wewe | what? *looks at other players* |
01:25.02 | Inferno285 | *mildly*!!! |
01:25.09 | Ice_Wewe | oh... majorly? |
01:25.32 | JeffM2501 | I consider you to be a theif and an asshat |
01:25.33 | Inferno285 | ...spelling correction |
01:25.49 | Ice_Wewe | oh. |
01:26.16 | teh_conquerer | im an asshat |
01:26.20 | Ice_Wewe | heh |
01:26.28 | teh_conquerer | heh |
01:26.33 | JeffM2501 | not you |
01:26.38 | teh_conquerer | jeff's gunna ban me for curcing now :-P |
01:26.40 | Ice_Wewe | teh_conquerer: aparntally I'm more asshatishly than you |
01:26.45 | JeffM2501 | naw |
01:26.57 | Ice_Wewe | ~define asshat |
01:27.01 | teh_conquerer | dict |
01:27.02 | JeffM2501 | don't forget a thief |
01:27.06 | Ice_Wewe | hmmm, gues that doesn't work |
01:27.10 | Ice_Wewe | ~dict asshat |
01:27.12 | JeffM2501 | how about /msg ibot |
01:27.17 | Inferno285 | asshat is etc |
01:27.24 | JeffM2501 | or google |
01:27.29 | Ice_Wewe | ~dict ass |
01:27.33 | Ice_Wewe | ~dict hat |
01:27.47 | JeffM2501 | please use the bot in /msg |
01:27.50 | Ice_Wewe | ok |
01:27.53 | teh_conquerer | the she ass |
01:28.03 | Ice_Wewe | The male ass "tunic." |
01:28.06 | JeffM2501 | and you all can stop saying ass now |
01:28.19 | teh_conquerer | JeffM2501: after you :-P |
01:28.25 | JeffM2501 | hey I stoped |
01:28.33 | Inferno285 | *stopped* |
01:28.44 | Inferno285 | I'm going to make a spelling bot :) |
01:28.50 | JeffM2501 | I made one comment on it, that dosnt' mean it's your turn to go into a beavis and butthead giggle session |
01:28.55 | JeffM2501 | Inferno285, not funny |
01:28.59 | blast007 | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=asshat |
01:28.59 | Thumper_ | Inferno285: you *are* the spelling bot |
01:29.15 | teh_conquerer | and the problem with beavis and butthead is....? |
01:29.23 | JeffM2501 | it would be stupid |
01:29.26 | JeffM2501 | and infantile |
01:29.33 | Inferno285 | ok, give up |
01:29.39 | Ice_Wewe | "Thumper_ Inferno285: you *are* the spelling bot" Seconded! |
01:29.55 | Ice_Wewe | ohh, this is a good def |
01:29.56 | Ice_Wewe | One who has their head up their ass. Thus wearing their ass as a hat. Asshat |
01:30.00 | JeffM2501 | Inferno285, I can't type well, deal with it. I don't need you correctin them all, people get the idea |
01:30.04 | trepan | blast007: a unit vector in the a** direction, odd melange |
01:30.21 | Ice_Wewe | yep. that is me ;) |
01:30.26 | Inferno285 | huh, I've only corrected ya..say 1ns |
01:30.31 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, I highly recomend you keep it to yourself |
01:30.36 | JeffM2501 | you are disrupting the channel |
01:30.45 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: ok |
01:30.53 | JeffM2501 | Inferno285, I know, that is why I'm telling you |
01:31.53 | Inferno285 | gotcha |
01:32.13 | menotume | DTRemenak: please make a list of fields you need to have added to player profile |
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01:34.09 | JeffM2501 | have fun |
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01:36.29 | TD-Linux | I feel sorry for that bleeding edge |
01:36.34 | teh_conquerer | i jsut sneezed unexpectadly |
01:36.35 | Inferno285 | George Bush is, like, the best American of the 21st century. |
01:36.42 | teh_conquerer | all over my monitor and keyboard |
01:36.47 | Inferno285 | ~George Bush |
01:36.48 | ibot | i heard george bush is eehhh..ehhhh...dunno, or a short-dicked, draft dodging, weed smoking, rubber bellied hillbilly |
01:36.58 | JeffM2501 | Inferno285, what are you talking about? |
01:37.09 | Inferno285 | I just got that from another channel. |
01:37.16 | JeffM2501 | Inferno285, umm ok |
01:37.53 | TD-Linux | hmm... wonder what ibot's political preference is? |
01:38.05 | TD-Linux | ~John Kerry |
01:38.10 | TD-Linux | ~kerry |
01:38.11 | ibot | methinks kerry is something you eat |
01:38.15 | teh_conquerer | haha |
01:38.23 | TD-Linux | hmm... ibot must be independent |
01:38.26 | TD-Linux | ~independent |
01:38.36 | TD-Linux | ~green |
01:38.36 | ibot | [green] a very active ipaq kernel hacker or mailto:green@linuxhacker.ru |
01:38.42 | JeffM2501 | again, how about using FREAKING /MSG |
01:38.43 | JeffM2501 | now |
01:38.43 | blast007 | dang, /msg or #botpark please :/ |
01:38.48 | teh_conquerer | whats wrong with being a weed smoking hillbilly? |
01:38.50 | JeffM2501 | come on kids |
01:38.56 | teh_conquerer | i consider myself to be all of that :-) |
01:39.05 | TD-Linux | forgot about #botpark again.... /join |
01:39.18 | JeffM2501 | retards |
01:39.58 | TD-Linux | wow, my theory is true! |
01:40.11 | JeffM2501 | that you all don't know when to quit? |
01:41.12 | Inferno285 | I live in MN....don't ask |
01:41.17 | teh_conquerer | JeffM2501: if i were you'd I'd just walk away :-) |
01:41.18 | TD-Linux | hey, me too! |
01:41.37 | teh_conquerer | you use to do say these things to me 3 years ago |
01:41.42 | Inferno285 | yeh, I live in the north though :( |
01:41.44 | teh_conquerer | then ban me after I wouldnt stop :-) |
01:41.55 | JeffM2501 | and so how have you changed? |
01:42.08 | teh_conquerer | well I guess I dont play with the bots now |
01:42.18 | teh_conquerer | equally annoying |
01:42.26 | teh_conquerer | just had to compensate in other areas |
01:42.36 | JeffM2501 | that dosn't make you any "beter" |
01:42.42 | teh_conquerer | exactly |
01:42.54 | Inferno285 | TD-Linux, it is rochester. Right? |
01:43.06 | JeffM2501 | Inferno285, just like the forms, use /msg for personal crap |
01:43.23 | teh_conquerer | actually, to be honest I dont even talk in this channel anymore |
01:43.25 | TD-Linux | Inferno285: did you just see a new tab pop up? |
01:43.38 | teh_conquerer | today has been the first day that I've talked in here in quite a while |
01:43.39 | TD-Linux | Inferno285: that is where private msgs go |
01:44.09 | teh_conquerer | usually I just idle and watch the cvs updates |
01:44.15 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
01:44.29 | teh_conquerer | so how havent I gotten any better? :-D |
01:44.50 | JeffM2501 | as of right now I only see you perpetuating the stupid chat |
01:44.51 | Inferno285 | do I have to be registered to PM or something? |
01:44.58 | JeffM2501 | when it has long been past time for the sillyness to end |
01:45.02 | JeffM2501 | Inferno285, yes, |
01:45.10 | JeffM2501 | Inferno285, as you have been told MANY times |
01:45.53 | Inferno285 | um, actually no |
01:46.12 | TD-Linux | Inferno285: I have sent you at least 5 PMs. Go to #botpark. |
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01:50.29 | menotume | /set defcon 3 |
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01:53.23 | Inferno281 | hi |
01:53.29 | TD-Linux | Ice_Wewe: the edges didn't bleed enough? |
01:53.39 | Ice_Wewe | TD-Linux: no, not enough |
01:54.04 | SilentSwan | uh oh |
01:56.20 | SilentSwan | foreach $user (@userlist) { sm00000ch($user); } |
01:56.28 | SilentSwan | well |
01:56.31 | SilentSwan | with a few exceptions |
01:58.05 | TD-Linux | what language is that? |
01:58.13 | SilentSwan | perl |
01:58.24 | Inferno281 | perl rocks! |
01:58.26 | TD-Linux | don't know perl, oh well |
01:58.35 | SilentSwan | perl is great until you have to maintain someone else's code |
01:58.39 | SilentSwan | which i'm presently doing at work :( |
01:58.42 | TD-Linux | People tell me that if you don't know perl, you are in peril |
01:58.51 | SilentSwan | this is true |
01:58.56 | SilentSwan | and perl == peril |
01:58.57 | TD-Linux | Others tell me that perl IS peril |
01:59.01 | SilentSwan | haha |
01:59.11 | SilentSwan | it's easy to learn |
01:59.13 | TD-Linux | I take the side of the latter ;) |
01:59.14 | SilentSwan | and easy to f* up |
01:59.29 | Inferno281 | perl still rocks |
01:59.33 | SilentSwan | perl makes it way too easy to write really bad code |
01:59.53 | TD-Linux | in that case, I could easily win a code obfuscation contest :) |
01:59.54 | SilentSwan | "There's More Than One Way To Do It" |
01:59.59 | SilentSwan | oh god |
02:00.04 | SilentSwan | look for obfuscated perl on the net |
02:00.12 | SilentSwan | insane |
02:00.21 | TD-Linux | my favorite decodes the cuecat |
02:00.28 | SilentSwan | although |
02:00.29 | TD-Linux | it is 4 short lines |
02:00.41 | SilentSwan | i did submit an application to an employer with a line of perl in my cover letter |
02:00.50 | SilentSwan | my contact information in binary :) |
02:01.01 | Inferno281 | SilentSwan, who do you work for? |
02:01.04 | SilentSwan | they were looking for someone perl literate |
02:01.12 | SilentSwan | Inferno281 it's medical services company |
02:01.22 | SilentSwan | can't really say who |
02:01.32 | Inferno281 | oh sure |
02:01.38 | SilentSwan | well |
02:01.38 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: /loadplugin and /unloadplugin commands are executable by any admin? |
02:01.41 | SilentSwan | i *used* to work for SPSS |
02:01.45 | Thumper_ | is there a way to restrict this ? |
02:01.46 | SilentSwan | before my job went to china |
02:01.49 | JeffM2501 | yeah I thik so |
02:01.56 | SilentSwan | <- Skillset Exportable |
02:01.59 | JeffM2501 | umm no |
02:02.04 | SilentSwan | <- Insufficient ROI |
02:02.07 | Thumper_ | ie ... some cop can do it... |
02:02.24 | Thumper_ | and if the plugin makes a file... where the param is the filename... |
02:02.31 | Thumper_ | they can overwrite pretty much anything they want |
02:02.33 | SilentSwan | and working for SPSS was rather interesting given the brain power of some of the top devs there... |
02:03.50 | SilentSwan | yeah |
02:03.57 | SilentSwan | i guess because they're not paying me anymore |
02:04.06 | SilentSwan | f*ers |
02:04.30 | JeffM2501 | it realy should be it's own permision |
02:05.04 | JeffM2501 | Thumper_, yes the server owner should only have plugins they trust in accesable paths |
02:05.21 | Thumper_ | i trust the plugin |
02:05.24 | Thumper_ | since I wrote it :) |
02:05.28 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
02:05.31 | Thumper_ | but I made it general so it takes a filename that |
02:05.32 | Thumper_ | it creates... |
02:05.38 | Thumper_ | and the param is the filename |
02:05.38 | JeffM2501 | but yes it should be it's own perm |
02:05.56 | Thumper_ | so you can load the plugin and specify some 'bad' filename |
02:06.07 | Thumper_ | like bin/bzfs and toast the bzfs image for instance |
02:06.33 | Thumper_ | or any other file you have write access to |
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02:06.49 | JeffM2501 | what server owner would install that plugin? |
02:06.54 | JeffM2501 | that would be stupid |
02:06.57 | Thumper_ | just me :) |
02:07.11 | Thumper_ | I didn't want the plugin output filename to be static |
02:07.19 | JeffM2501 | Ok, I'll pull the API, so it won't be a security issue |
02:07.25 | Thumper_ | no... |
02:07.26 | Thumper_ | :-P |
02:07.32 | JeffM2501 | it's the only real way |
02:07.40 | Thumper_ | also I stumbled on a weird bug |
02:07.49 | Thumper_ | messing with /loadplugin and /unloadplugin |
02:07.53 | Thumper_ | without passing it the filename |
02:07.55 | Thumper_ | ie |
02:08.11 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
02:08.41 | Thumper_ | and i loaded it without the ,filenamegoeshere param |
02:08.53 | Thumper_ | must be my bug... :) but... a file got created which was part |
02:08.57 | Thumper_ | of the server conversation at the time. |
02:09.01 | Thumper_ | gotta fix that :-o |
02:09.10 | JeffM2501 | you probably read bad mem |
02:09.13 | JeffM2501 | and asumed it was good |
02:09.17 | Thumper_ | probably |
02:09.17 | JeffM2501 | you shoudl check for the param firstb |
02:09.21 | JeffM2501 | before you use it |
02:09.23 | Thumper_ | thougth I did |
02:09.33 | Thumper_ | see - I can't spel either ;) |
02:09.33 | JeffM2501 | why are you making a server rape plugin? |
02:10.13 | Thumper_ | no... it's a plugin that writes the current playerlist to a file |
02:10.17 | Thumper_ | you specify the filename... |
02:10.21 | Thumper_ | as the param to the plugin |
02:10.24 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
02:10.33 | Thumper_ | and it overwrites that file with teh data |
02:10.36 | JeffM2501 | so if you screw up it could blow over something |
02:10.39 | Thumper_ | um yeah |
02:10.48 | Thumper_ | the only reason I did the param in the first place was |
02:10.52 | JeffM2501 | you should have it say "overide yes/no" :) |
02:10.57 | Thumper_ | so maybe it could be used on other systems too |
02:10.59 | JeffM2501 | actualy what I'd do is not make it do it on load |
02:11.06 | Thumper_ | and I didn't want the pathname hardcoded in there |
02:11.15 | JeffM2501 | leave it loaded and have it take a /dumpplayers command |
02:11.19 | JeffM2501 | then you can be interactive |
02:11.23 | JeffM2501 | and do your own perm stuff |
02:11.50 | Thumper_ | um huh ? |
02:11.54 | Thumper_ | i leave it loaded |
02:12.00 | Thumper_ | it gets loaded at server startup |
02:12.04 | Thumper_ | and until today it's always loaded |
02:12.05 | JeffM2501 | ok |
02:12.13 | Thumper_ | I was just playing with the /unloadplugin /loadplugin commands |
02:12.16 | JeffM2501 | oh it keeps it maintainged |
02:12.16 | JeffM2501 | got it |
02:12.17 | Thumper_ | for the first time...and OOPS |
02:12.19 | JeffM2501 | got it |
02:12.22 | Thumper_ | yes |
02:12.25 | Thumper_ | each player join/part updates the data |
02:12.29 | JeffM2501 | yeah, you need some sort of error detect :) |
02:12.34 | Thumper_ | um yeah :) |
02:13.00 | Thumper_ | i assume the /unloadplugin |
02:13.09 | Thumper_ | server command is not distinguisable from a server shutdown |
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02:13.15 | Thumper_ | unload plugin operation |
02:13.27 | Thumper_ | distinguishable* |
02:13.42 | Thumper_ | ie we can't make it ignore user /unloadplugin commands |
02:13.56 | Thumper_ | but honor server shutdown /unloadplugin operations |
02:14.34 | JeffM2501 | no |
02:14.50 | JeffM2501 | the plugin is a pawn |
02:14.55 | JeffM2501 | it WILL be unloade |
02:15.15 | JeffM2501 | the /load /unload commands were not meant as an inteface |
02:15.22 | JeffM2501 | but as a way to turn them on and of, that's it |
02:15.24 | Thumper_ | right |
02:15.26 | Thumper_ | that's what I thought |
02:16.58 | Thumper_ | hmmm so other than hardcoding the playerlist filename in the plugin |
02:17.01 | Thumper_ | is there a safe way to do this? |
02:17.21 | JeffM2501 | you could have it read it from the config |
02:17.25 | JeffM2501 | as a bzdb vart |
02:17.32 | JeffM2501 | that would be best |
02:17.45 | JeffM2501 | if it isn't in bzdb you use a default |
02:17.53 | Thumper_ | the default is no output file |
02:17.58 | Thumper_ | if nothing is specified |
02:18.06 | JeffM2501 | then there ya go |
02:18.10 | JeffM2501 | just have it get input from the vars file |
02:19.36 | Thumper_ | hmmm how does the filename get into the bzdb var in teh first place? |
02:20.07 | JeffM2501 | the server operator puts the pathname in his vars file with a set |
02:20.17 | JeffM2501 | so basicly it's part of the config when the server starts |
02:20.47 | Thumper_ | so -set _playerlistFilename filenamegoeshere.txt |
02:20.50 | Thumper_ | in the config? |
02:21.03 | JeffM2501 | that is one way yeah |
02:21.10 | JeffM2501 | if they have a vars file they can add it to that too |
02:21.13 | JeffM2501 | or even to /set in game |
02:21.54 | Thumper_ | ok I've never done 'new' vars before |
02:21.58 | Thumper_ | just tweaked existing stuff |
02:22.26 | blast007 | won't that say the variable doesn't exist? |
02:22.35 | Thumper_ | that's what I was thinking... :) |
02:23.11 | JeffM2501 | it should support custom vars now |
02:23.22 | JeffM2501 | I made changes to make it work when I hooked it into the API |
02:23.31 | JeffM2501 | if not, we should support it |
02:23.41 | Thumper_ | ok |
02:23.43 | JeffM2501 | bzdb works for innards, nothing says plugins can't use it too |
02:24.05 | blast007 | Unknown BZDB variable: _playerlistFilename |
02:24.13 | trepan | can't plugins take params? |
02:24.28 | Thumper_ | yes |
02:24.33 | Thumper_ | and it does |
02:24.33 | JeffM2501 | yes |
02:24.41 | Thumper_ | and... the var won't make that any safer |
02:24.43 | Thumper_ | same problem |
02:24.44 | JeffM2501 | he was looking for alternate means |
02:24.49 | JeffM2501 | not nothing makes it safer |
02:24.52 | trepan | can't they also register new cmds? |
02:24.53 | JeffM2501 | you just have to code your plugin smarty |
02:24.55 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I tested the var thing with 2.1.2, and it doesn't work :) |
02:24.56 | JeffM2501 | they can |
02:25.02 | Thumper_ | joeCop can set var filename to whatever they want |
02:25.05 | JeffM2501 | blast007, ok |
02:25.12 | Thumper_ | then joeCop loads the plugin and stomps on file they specify |
02:25.19 | JeffM2501 | Thumper_, that is why maybe you should do your own perms and custom commands. |
02:25.34 | JeffM2501 | use your own config file |
02:25.39 | Thumper_ | ok |
02:25.44 | JeffM2501 | and use your own perms with a /setmydir command |
02:25.49 | JeffM2501 | to change it |
02:26.18 | Thumper_ | yeah that's probably the route I have to go with this |
02:26.40 | Thumper_ | normally this plugin should always be loaded (on my servers) |
02:26.47 | Thumper_ | but I can't enforce that |
02:27.02 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
02:27.07 | JeffM2501 | the only code you can be sure of is your own |
02:28.13 | Thumper_ | ok thanks. I'll go chew on this for abit |
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02:41.41 | SilentSwan | *sigh* spammers must die |
02:47.50 | Blue_Beard | Maybe some spam would liven this channel up for a change. =) |
02:48.31 | SilentSwan | Increase your Size NOW!!!! |
02:48.33 | SilentSwan | there |
02:48.40 | Blue_Beard | Rofl |
02:49.02 | SilentSwan | ugh, i feel dirty now |
02:50.55 | Blue_Beard | Hotmail seems to be getting worse these days. I used to get it in Yahoo, but now it comes to Hotmail too. |
02:51.17 | SilentSwan | comes to or comes from? |
02:51.44 | Blue_Beard | To... it seems to come from a lot of those "thisdomaindoesntexist.com" places. Heh. |
02:51.52 | SilentSwan | yeha |
02:53.11 | Blue_Beard | Yep.. I know.. lazy. =) Haha. |
02:54.09 | SilentSwan | *tsk tsk* |
02:54.51 | Blue_Beard | Hey.. wait a sec! =o |
02:54.53 | SilentSwan | hehe |
02:54.58 | SilentSwan | brb - smokin' time |
02:55.20 | Blue_Beard | Now it's my turn to tsk at you. ;-) |
02:57.31 | Inferno285 | are you addicted? |
02:58.50 | SilentSwan | yeah, you could say that :( |
02:58.54 | SilentSwan | tobacco, in this case |
02:58.58 | SilentSwan | had to give the good stuff up |
02:59.10 | SilentSwan | i cheated once though |
02:59.13 | SilentSwan | :( |
02:59.39 | SilentSwan | but a) i was starting to feel the effects of it, b) made a promise to someone close that i'd stop |
02:59.42 | SilentSwan | so i stopped |
03:00.11 | Inferno285 | cool, good for you :) |
03:00.17 | SilentSwan | :) |
03:01.07 | SilentSwan | but... if things ever go wrong btwn me and said close friend... i'm starting right up again haha |
03:01.10 | SilentSwan | just for spite |
03:01.20 | SilentSwan | but... that won't happen |
03:02.15 | Inferno285 | do you "want" to give up tobacco? |
03:02.30 | SilentSwan | oh yes |
03:02.36 | SilentSwan | i quit for 2 years |
03:02.44 | SilentSwan | but then started up again 2 years ago |
03:02.46 | SilentSwan | :( |
03:02.47 | SilentSwan | stupid |
03:03.53 | Blue_Beard | It's easy to stop smoking. I've done it a few hundred times. |
03:03.55 | Blue_Beard | =P ;-) |
03:04.14 | SilentSwan | it was really not so bad |
03:04.20 | SilentSwan | once i got past the first week, it got easier |
03:04.39 | Blue_Beard | Actually, I don't smoke... but a good cigar... =D |
03:05.22 | SilentSwan | well.. that's one thing |
03:05.34 | SilentSwan | harder to get addicted |
03:05.45 | SilentSwan | i've had cigars before :) |
03:05.48 | SilentSwan | *cough* |
03:06.15 | Blue_Beard | Hehe. True, true. Oddly, I like cheap cigars. Dunno why though. Haha. |
03:06.42 | SilentSwan | ew |
03:06.45 | SilentSwan | they smell nasty |
03:07.03 | Blue_Beard | Nah.. at least not the tipped/flavored ones. =) |
03:07.19 | Inferno285 | I'm not even old enough to smoke yet :p |
03:07.22 | Blue_Beard | (I wasn't referring to 10c cigars, just not the $10 ones).. haha. |
03:07.51 | SilentSwan | Inferno285 and if you start, i'm gonna find you ;) |
03:07.58 | SilentSwan | and give you a whoopin |
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03:09.41 | menotume | a good cigar smells good while burning, but stale smoke is always bad |
03:10.07 | menotume | good = hand-rolled imports |
03:10.08 | SilentSwan | SilentSwan's rules: 1) No smoking in the house, 2) No smoking in the car |
03:10.14 | SilentSwan | those are major sins |
03:10.33 | SilentSwan | so even if it's bitterly cold, i'll go outside to smoke |
03:12.03 | Blue_Beard | Ehh.... |
03:12.03 | SilentSwan | heh |
03:12.03 | SilentSwan | don't share :) |
03:12.03 | SilentSwan | oh, it doesn't make me smoke less ;( |
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03:14.14 | menotume | DTRemenak: any thoughts on the fields you'd like to see added to player profiles ? |
03:14.14 | menotume | and data type, length |
03:14.18 | menotume | and, what should be set at registration, which should be set on 'gettoken' |
03:14.32 | SilentSwan | ugh |
03:14.39 | SilentSwan | but can't |
03:14.47 | menotume | lol ! |
03:14.51 | SilentSwan | hehe sorry |
03:15.17 | menotume | tokin has bad long-term affects, /me knows |
03:15.27 | SilentSwan | yeah, i know too ;( |
03:15.41 | SilentSwan | i was a regular (daily) stoner for wayyyyy too long |
03:15.57 | SilentSwan | ever seen a stoned swan? not pretty |
03:16.16 | menotume | gave it up one day - cold turkey - about 10 years ago |
03:16.26 | SilentSwan | yeah, quitting weed is easy, i've noticed |
03:18.14 | SilentSwan | but so far, it's the only thing i've cheated with... |
03:18.14 | Blue_Beard | Wow.. this convo. just got a whole lot more strange...... |
03:18.14 | Blue_Beard | Haha. |
03:18.14 | SilentSwan | ouch |
03:18.14 | menotume | ya, first few days was 'Jonesing', but after that not bad |
03:19.09 | SilentSwan | Blue_Beard you think this is strange? you should see me when i'm completely baked |
03:19.10 | menotume | hehe |
03:19.10 | SilentSwan | i start on things like quantum physics... and existentialism |
03:19.10 | Blue_Beard | A friend of my family used to make pot brownies at every chance..... |
03:19.10 | Blue_Beard | LoL |
03:19.10 | SilentSwan | mmmm... |
03:19.10 | SilentSwan | *drool* |
03:19.34 | Blue_Beard | ;-) |
03:19.34 | menotume | heh |
03:19.38 | SilentSwan | i dunno.. i just started to feel really crappy about myself when i realized that i was getting baked *EVERY* night... |
03:19.49 | SilentSwan | healthier ways to deal with one's problems |
03:20.03 | SilentSwan | and i met my healthy alternative :) |
03:20.13 | menotume | yays :) |
03:21.35 | Blue_Beard | Congrats. =D |
03:21.43 | SilentSwan | thank you :) |
03:21.47 | SilentSwan | took long enough |
03:22.21 | SilentSwan | trouble is, said friend works late, so makes getting together a bit awkward |
03:22.30 | SilentSwan | but this weekend, we've plans :) |
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03:23.58 | Blue_Beard | w00t =) |
03:24.19 | SilentSwan | indeed *grin* |
03:25.39 | menotume | laters folks, gonna try to actually get to bed before midnight .. /me is catching a cold |
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03:25.55 | SilentSwan | you're missing an 'e' |
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03:27.34 | SilentSwan | why hello, JeffM2501 |
03:29.23 | teh_conquerer | anyone from the uk here? |
03:29.23 | teh_conquerer | taht can do me a favor :-) |
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03:34.33 | Thumper__ | JeffM2501: is the /loadplugin syntax the same as the -loadplugin syntax? |
03:34.33 | Thumper__ | for parameters? |
03:34.33 | Thumper__ | (if you happen to remember offhand) |
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03:35.25 | JeffM2501 | hello |
03:35.34 | JeffM2501 | Thumper__, yeah |
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05:28.38 | SilentSwan | hmm... ich hab' kein mehr lust... gute nacht |
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05:49.23 | cosmos | another lord jesus sighting |
05:49.28 | cosmos | man this turd is persistent |
05:50.01 | Pimpi | Fri Nov 4 05:30:16 2005 |
05:50.01 | Pimpi | Reported by badgerking: lord jesus was here effing up your server |
05:50.19 | cosmos | yeah i just banned him right after he threatened to DOS us again |
05:50.25 | cosmos | and several cheating reports |
05:50.34 | cosmos | [SERVER->] 69.236.244.* banned by: cosmos |
05:50.34 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
05:50.40 | cosmos | pardon my french |
05:50.56 | mbfg | wow: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/02/denvermarijuana.ap/index.html |
05:54.17 | lan56 | my big fat greek is my guess at what your name means, a spinoff of the movie title |
05:54.59 | mbfg | me big fat guy |
05:55.15 | mbfg | good guess tho |
05:56.47 | lan56 | I was close :) I thought about that at first, but I had not seen you use that name before so I thought it was someone else |
05:57.31 | Pimpi | mbfg: you're mac? |
05:57.56 | mbfg | that i am |
05:58.13 | Pimpi | hey, already tought we lost you ;) |
05:58.24 | mbfg | still breathin |
05:58.52 | Pimpi | :) |
05:59.15 | cosmos | Thu Nov 3 21:40:11 2005 |
05:59.16 | cosmos | Reported by Lord Jesus!: Your server will be packeted to hell now |
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06:33.13 | SilentSwan | *sigh* |
06:40.01 | cosmos | hrm |
06:43.19 | SilentSwan | insomnia... |
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09:32.33 | bz4651 | hi |
09:32.50 | bz4651 | ahha |
09:32.52 | bz4651 | lol |
09:32.55 | bz4651 | hoestie? |
09:32.58 | bz4651 | how are you?? |
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10:56.45 | brlcad | fg |
10:56.51 | brlcad | oop |
11:07.28 | _Manu_ | :) |
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11:35.45 | Newart | Hi everybody!! |
11:35.55 | brlcad | Hi!!! |
11:36.21 | Newart | Hows going? |
11:37.42 | Newart | ok:D |
11:40.21 | Newart | What everybody gonna do today? It's Friday!!! |
11:41.14 | Birdie | we gonna..work? |
11:42.40 | Newart | work? |
11:43.00 | brlcad | work. |
11:43.13 | Newart | No no no. Partyyy!! |
11:44.49 | Newart | :D |
11:45.14 | brlcad | that really wasn't meant to be funny either |
11:45.19 | Birdie | brlcad has a morning grumpyness? |
11:45.21 | Newart | Okey |
11:45.26 | brlcad | oh yeah |
11:45.34 | Birdie | first time i hear that |
11:45.44 | brlcad | :) |
11:46.14 | brlcad | i try to avoid being online in the mornings is probably why you don't hear it much .. |
11:46.43 | brlcad | unless i've been up all night, then I'm usually just loopie |
11:47.11 | brlcad | course morning for me isn't morning for half of you :) |
11:47.59 | Birdie | well |
11:48.02 | Birdie | depends... |
11:48.12 | Birdie | its 1pm almoust but its morning for me:) |
11:53.29 | Newart | Ooookey. But now I gonna go to home. See ya everybody!!! :D |
11:53.53 | brlcad | darn, and we were just getting acquainted |
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12:55.36 | Birdie | thoughshooter ping |
13:01.06 | ToughShooter | birdie: pong |
13:01.23 | Birdie | wanted to leave you a memo but said your callsign is not registered |
13:01.39 | Birdie | got a mail back from owner gu, he doesnt log any ip's (will he propably will do in the future after this) |
13:01.44 | ToughShooter | you misspelled it ;) |
13:01.58 | Birdie | ThoughShooter |
13:02.01 | Birdie | took that one |
13:02.28 | ToughShooter | umm, I don't understand :/ |
13:02.38 | Birdie | me neither:) |
13:02.40 | Birdie | i'll try again |
13:02.57 | Birdie | -MemoServ- The nickname [ThoughShooter] is not registered |
13:03.16 | ToughShooter | Sure, you have one 'h' too much |
13:03.34 | Birdie | ooh.. |
13:03.38 | Birdie | :( |
13:03.44 | Birdie | sorry |
13:03.49 | ToughShooter | np ;) |
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13:41.48 | Grumbler | brlcad, leave the grumbling, grumpies to the experts |
13:57.40 | brlcad | Grumbler: true true, my bad |
13:58.16 | Grumbler | np |
13:58.44 | Grumbler | the proper response would have been to ban the suckers......ban'em all....... |
13:59.38 | brlcad | tempting |
13:59.51 | ToughShooter | brlcad: Can you help with the spin bug please? |
14:00.11 | brlcad | ToughShooter: not really, especially not right now |
14:01.13 | ToughShooter | brlcad: well, trepan seems to be unable to reproduce. thanks for a response anyway |
14:02.01 | brlcad | try to get others to reproduce it |
14:02.19 | ToughShooter | I saw people with Macs can reproduce it |
14:02.46 | brlcad | is it mac-only for _certain_ or only for you? does it _always_ happen for some people but not others? |
14:02.49 | ToughShooter | also one linux guy had been able to reproduce but I was unable to ask whether he uses PPC CPU |
14:03.10 | brlcad | all good questions to figure out beforehand |
14:03.17 | ToughShooter | A player called "panther" got stuck, too |
14:03.42 | brlcad | it's not a matter of whether they can get stuck, it's a matter of pinning down the commonality between everyone that does |
14:03.50 | brlcad | you know it can happen as it happens to you |
14:03.58 | ToughShooter | for CBG I don't know but I get stuck on my lappy with official 2.0.4, too |
14:04.17 | brlcad | to be useful to someone who is going to debug it, they need to know specifics |
14:05.02 | ToughShooter | I will try to provide more info but not much people with macs are playing :/ |
14:05.24 | brlcad | i see people with macs playing all the time |
14:05.46 | ToughShooter | heh, they don't come to my get stuck server |
14:05.46 | brlcad | get some friends from different servers |
14:06.02 | brlcad | to help test it |
14:06.14 | ToughShooter | the friends use linux-sdl and w32 :x |
14:06.37 | brlcad | it sounds like an old map issue -- having a thin object in a bad location causing issues |
14:06.45 | ToughShooter | oh well, I will try to install linux on my lappy to see whether PPC linux is affected |
14:06.52 | brlcad | doesn't matter what they use |
14:07.10 | brlcad | good to know if it's really just mac, or just easier on mac |
14:07.17 | brlcad | i suspect it's the latter |
14:07.27 | ToughShooter | they said the got a flickering "Ready" |
14:08.10 | ToughShooter | in whole map after jumping on the box. sometimes it flickers for me when I am stuck, too |
14:09.09 | brlcad | the easier answer is to review the map and determine what's in there that's causing it |
14:09.46 | ToughShooter | brlcad: Saw my sample map? |
14:10.14 | brlcad | no |
14:10.31 | ToughShooter | brlcad: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1344274&group_id=3248&atid=103248 |
14:10.32 | brlcad | and no, i'm not going to look at it now either |
14:10.47 | ToughShooter | I am not asking to look at it right now |
14:11.02 | ToughShooter | it's not that important but it would be nice to be fixed |
14:12.56 | brlcad | i have a very long list of those kinds of things, hence why figuring out what in the map causes it would be useful too if you haven't already |
14:16.00 | ToughShooter | It is caused by having a box in a define, and using spin -90 0 0 1 in group instead of spin 270 0 0 1 (which should be equal) |
14:16.18 | brlcad | that'd be floating point fuzz |
14:16.26 | ToughShooter | a single arc with spin -90 0 0 1 makes no probs |
14:16.49 | ToughShooter | but I haven't tested yet what happens when the arc is in group |
14:17.36 | brlcad | don't bother checking on the other platforms, that already narrows it down |
14:17.51 | brlcad | it's simple differences of compiler options and floating point arithmetic |
14:19.19 | ToughShooter | ok, arc is completly unaffected |
14:19.57 | ToughShooter | PPC is less precise on floating point stuff so it might be due to CPU :/ |
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14:20.34 | TD-Linux | is it possible to make an object invisible to radar? |
14:20.42 | brlcad | less precise? where the heck you pull that from? |
14:20.56 | brlcad | it's simply different |
14:21.35 | ToughShooter | umm, I don't remember |
14:21.40 | brlcad | same bits of precision are guaranteed, that's defined by IEEE |
14:22.05 | brlcad | what's not guaranteed is the representable types/numbers |
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14:30.46 | Fant | hi all |
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14:33.45 | wizatmac | anyone know who runs the bzflag.bz servers? |
14:38.08 | brlcad | wizatmac: yes |
14:39.01 | wizatmac | my friend got my school's IP banned from some of the servers hosted on bzflag.bz |
14:39.13 | wizatmac | and i was wondering who ran them so i could talk to them |
14:39.38 | brlcad | and prey tell how he got the school's IP banned? |
14:40.14 | brlcad | and which sort of ban? |
14:40.19 | wizatmac | he was capturing his own teams flag |
14:40.24 | wizatmac | and our school uses 1 IP |
14:40.34 | wizatmac | banned from the servers, and it's been over a week |
14:41.29 | brlcad | okay, that'll be a game server issue then -- bzflag.bz is host to several server owners |
14:41.44 | wizatmac | i think it was from louman's servers specifically |
14:42.13 | brlcad | then I'd suggest contacting louman ;-) |
14:42.37 | wizatmac | do you have his email or any other way of contacting him? |
14:42.45 | brlcad | hmm |
14:42.52 | brlcad | he's not been into here in about a month |
14:43.00 | brlcad | ~seen louman |
14:43.01 | ibot | louman <n=42bc3c6b@webchat.bzflag.bz> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 37d 11h 48m 29s ago, saying: 'ah - cool - i knew about the plugin, but too complicated for me ;)'. |
14:43.10 | wizatmac | darn |
14:44.26 | brlcad | wizatmac: who made the ban? that would be your next alternate |
14:44.54 | wizatmac | i can connect and find out |
14:45.02 | wizatmac | as i wasn 't there when he was being stupiud |
14:45.34 | brlcad | any one of the admins should be able to discuss the ban and remove it for you if they so decide they want to |
14:46.04 | wizatmac | it was "high kirate kitty" |
14:46.24 | wizatmac | i'd leave a message for the admin, but i can't connect to the game to actually do that =/ |
14:47.50 | brlcad | leave them a message on bzbb |
14:57.04 | wizatmac | where would be the best place, as the board states that no one there can help |
14:57.12 | wizatmac | and aparently my proxy idea didn't work |
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15:07.16 | Grumbler | brlcad, bzbb is old school....its now my.bzflag.org/bb |
15:07.52 | brlcad | bzbb is so much more catchy |
15:09.20 | wizatmac | well since "The karate kitty" dosen't seem to exist on "bzbb", would it be ok to PM louman? |
15:09.31 | TD-Linux | is it possible to prevent an object from casting a shadow? |
15:09.36 | brlcad | of course |
15:09.54 | wizatmac | alright |
15:10.24 | Grumbler | wizart, its High Karate Kitty |
15:10.31 | Grumbler | err, wizatmac |
15:11.20 | wizatmac | oh |
15:11.31 | wizatmac | well, i searched for "kitty" and there wern't any results |
15:13.12 | wizatmac | PM sent, now to hope that it all works out |
15:13.12 | wizatmac | later |
15:13.49 | TD-Linux | wow, my water looks really cool with noshadow enabled! |
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15:24.58 | TD-Linux | is there a lazy way to take a normal arc cylinder and apply a texure to a part of it? |
15:25.19 | TD-Linux | I want grass texture on the top, and wall texture on the rest |
15:43.43 | ToughShooter | ~seen Tupone |
15:43.48 | ibot | tupone <n=Tupone@pdpc/supporter/active/Tupone> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 16h 23m 25s ago, saying: 'Ice_Wewe: 99.99% of the time I just talk about linux'. |
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16:40.30 | ToughShooter | menotume: ping |
16:42.57 | Birdie | he is playing |
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17:32.37 | ToughShooter | Can someone with an x86-CPU compile bzflag with ./configure CFLAGS=-ffloat-store and join 84.176.59.131:5145 for jumping on the box in the middle please? |
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17:49.11 | cosmos | what? |
17:50.08 | ToughShooter | I want to see whether someone on x86 gets stuck on the box in the map when it the client is compiled with -ffloat-store |
17:50.45 | cosmos | ahh, i live in a pc proof bunker |
17:51.10 | ToughShooter | I have no x86 CPU yet |
17:51.27 | cosmos | me neither, pcs are not allowed in my house :) |
17:51.33 | brlcad | ToughShooter: remove "-ffast-math" from the mac optimization CPPFLAGS in configure.ac and give that a try |
17:52.14 | brlcad | that option doesn't require ieee conformance, so interesting things are allowed to occur for the sake of performance, and it's something that only the macs do -- so likely cause |
17:52.19 | ToughShooter | okayy |
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17:52.36 | brlcad | not that the code should be so closely reliant on ieee floating |
17:55.04 | brlcad | ToughShooter: for that matter, IFF that doesn't work, retry with -O2 instead of -O3 next .. but definitely try removing -ffast-math first all by itself |
17:55.11 | brlcad | or not |
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17:55.54 | ToughShooter | arg, my fingers are too fat |
17:56.01 | brlcad | ToughShooter: for that matter, IFF that doesn't work, retry with -O2 instead of -O3 next .. but definitely try removing -ffast-math first all by itself |
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18:25.44 | TDS | hi...is trb around? |
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18:41.00 | SportChick | JeffM2501: ping |
18:41.32 | JeffM2501 | ? |
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18:47.11 | ToughShooter | err, -O3 |
18:47.29 | Tupone | hmm compiling is so fast ? |
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18:48.11 | ToughShooter | Tupone: ? |
18:48.36 | Tupone | 12 minute to compile -O2 and test? |
18:48.43 | ToughShooter | yes |
18:48.55 | ToughShooter | compiling lasted 7 minutes |
18:49.06 | ToughShooter | this is not my lappy :) |
18:50.21 | ToughShooter | still I would like to see whether a client under x86 with -ffloat-store would get stuck :/ |
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19:05.37 | ToughShooter | Hmm, I even get stuck with -O3 |
19:09.07 | ToughShooter | Well, I could imagine the x86 could be more precise when -ffloat-store is not used than a PPC so it may could not be fixed via compiler options on a PPC based computer :/ |
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19:32.49 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: bzfs used to get all CPU available |
19:33.35 | Tupone | with bots, shame on me |
19:37.47 | bryjen | hrm |
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19:41.10 | bryjen | bah |
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20:34.12 | ruskie | hmmm are bzflag source tarballs signed by anyone? |
20:35.55 | brlcad | signed? no. |
20:36.07 | ruskie | as in gpg signed |
20:36.18 | ruskie | or pgp or whatever... |
20:36.42 | ruskie | any plans to do it anytime? |
20:37.09 | brlcad | i doubt it |
20:37.15 | ruskie | :( |
20:38.23 | _Manu_ | :) |
20:49.19 | JeffM2501 | everone in the world is sick :( |
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20:51.26 | Tupone | _Manu_: would you like to join my server? |
20:51.41 | _Manu_ | ok |
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20:54.01 | callofhonor | hi |
20:57.03 | Tupone | thanks _Manu_ :) |
20:57.09 | _Manu_ | np :) |
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21:39.21 | Tupone | bryjen: ??? |
21:40.20 | Tupone | net is whiming ? |
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21:45.24 | _Manu_ | heh |
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21:46.05 | Tupone | welcome back |
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22:07.00 | Tupone | RPG_: I need some testing don't leave |
22:07.18 | RPG_ | i'm having some troubles of my own |
22:07.22 | RPG_ | BZ doesn't like my card |
22:07.28 | RPG_ | gotta run in 8 bit mode |
22:07.39 | RPG_ | so i got like 2 SPF (seconds per frame) |
22:07.51 | Tupone | ahh. ok |
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22:14.29 | RPG_ | can anyone speak for a good GFX card, AGP, under $150? |
22:15.29 | JeffM2501 | many of them |
22:15.46 | JeffM2501 | why are you in 8 bit mode |
22:15.49 | JeffM2501 | most cards suck in 8 bit |
22:16.08 | RPG_ | my radeon 9250 doesn't feel like hardware rendering today |
22:16.18 | JeffM2501 | it's not your card then |
22:16.21 | JeffM2501 | it is your driver |
22:16.33 | RPG_ | got the *newest* one |
22:16.40 | JeffM2501 | if the hardware had failed 2d would be bad too |
22:16.48 | JeffM2501 | well that may be your problem |
22:16.57 | JeffM2501 | I've seen ATI drivers eat themselves |
22:17.09 | JeffM2501 | 1) uninstall the ATI Driver |
22:17.18 | JeffM2501 | 2) set your cards driver to VGA |
22:17.19 | JeffM2501 | reboot |
22:17.25 | JeffM2501 | then install the driver clean |
22:17.33 | JeffM2501 | don't run in 8 bit |
22:17.37 | JeffM2501 | run in 16 or 32 |
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22:17.52 | RPG_ | 8bit was all it would do |
22:17.55 | RPG_ | but i'll try |
22:17.59 | JeffM2501 | what? |
22:18.03 | JeffM2501 | you in windows? |
22:18.15 | RPG_ | yep |
22:18.22 | JeffM2501 | go to your device manager |
22:18.24 | RPG_ | but i want to get something better to play battlefield 2 on |
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22:18.40 | JeffM2501 | 6600GT |
22:18.44 | RPG_ | i need AGP |
22:18.46 | JeffM2501 | or like an X300 |
22:18.51 | JeffM2501 | they have AGP 6600's |
22:19.05 | Aribeth | it is AGP |
22:19.21 | Aribeth | good gard |
22:19.24 | Aribeth | card* |
22:19.38 | Tupone | RPG_: I play with an FX5200, cheap card |
22:19.45 | RPG_ | BF2? |
22:19.48 | Tupone | no |
22:19.53 | Aribeth | 6600 gt is much better |
22:19.55 | Tupone | only bzflag sorry |
22:20.19 | JeffM2501 | 150 will only get you low end cards |
22:20.23 | JeffM2501 | the 6600 line isn't bad |
22:20.31 | JeffM2501 | expect to pay 250 for midrange |
22:20.32 | JeffM2501 | http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=190327&AFFIL=pricewatch&NR=1 |
22:21.04 | JeffM2501 | that is for a 256 meg card |
22:21.12 | JeffM2501 | it's closer to 100 for a 128 meg |
22:21.34 | JeffM2501 | or a non GT |
22:21.47 | JeffM2501 | how comfortable you with overclocking :) |
22:22.29 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, how soon do you plan on doing a mobo upgrade and geting off AGP? |
22:22.30 | RPG_ | my mobo won't do it |
22:22.40 | RPG_ | not in the near future |
22:22.42 | JeffM2501 | no I mean OC of the video card |
22:23.07 | RPG_ | never tried |
22:23.21 | JeffM2501 | you can often OC 6600's to GT speeds |
22:23.27 | RPG_ | figure i'd read more on it before i blew my computer up :) |
22:23.28 | JeffM2501 | there are also the new 6200s |
22:23.30 | JeffM2501 | they are not bad |
22:23.35 | JeffM2501 | and REALY cheap |
22:24.42 | JeffM2501 | for ATI options you can go with like the X700 line |
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22:31.05 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Shot attribute computed at the receiver. |
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22:42.32 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Removing cheat check on shot cinematic. |
22:45.22 | trepan | Tupone: your changes take into account the fact that shot/player state might not be sync'ed? |
22:45.37 | Tupone | I send a playerupdate just before the shot |
22:45.45 | Tupone | and I put in the same buffer |
22:46.15 | trepan | player update has flag type info? |
22:47.02 | Tupone | I don't think. Should I send that too? |
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22:47.27 | trepan | i think you should take a step back and decide on what it is you' |
22:47.31 | trepan | re trying to do ;) |
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22:47.50 | Tupone | not a step back, perhaps a step forward |
22:49.19 | Tupone | trepan: you get commits emails? |
22:49.37 | trepan | yes |
22:49.41 | Tupone | :( |
22:49.48 | bryjen | you cannot move forward until you're sure which way it is to your destination ;) |
22:50.13 | Tupone | bryjen: I move forward before to look at the way I want to go |
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22:50.26 | trepan | 1000 monkeys? |
22:51.38 | MostlyWater | this client seems to deal with the new firewall better. unfortuneately, its gaim :( |
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22:52.01 | RPG_ | tupone: i can test now |
22:52.17 | Tupone | lemme restart it |
22:52.18 | JeffM2501 | driver fix it all up? |
22:52.22 | RPG_ | yep |
22:52.25 | JeffM2501 | good |
22:52.28 | RPG_ | did trepan add LOD's to 2.1? |
22:52.35 | RPG_ | 'cause i was getting in the range of 150 FPS |
22:52.41 | trepan | lod's where added in 2.0.4 |
22:52.48 | RPG_ | oh |
22:52.49 | trepan | and fixed for the mac somewhere in 2.0.5 |
22:53.09 | JeffM2501 | 2.1 was made after 2.0.4 for s they will ahve them |
22:53.14 | trepan | Tupone: another tip, getMuzzle() isn't necessarily sync'ed |
22:53.22 | JeffM2501 | and I think dtr has synced head with 2.0 a couple times |
22:53.33 | Tupone | trepan: why not ? |
22:53.41 | Tupone | I have to look at it |
22:53.44 | RPG_ | i'm hitting myself for getting an AGP mobo+card back in Feburary |
22:53.48 | Tupone | flag ? |
22:53.50 | trepan | you're playing with stuff you don't know, not a good recipe |
22:54.22 | RPG_ | when do you want me to jion |
22:54.26 | Tupone | now |
22:54.49 | bryjen | RPG_: you should never look back, the technology never stands still. what you could get today is always better. |
22:55.03 | bryjen | and often cheaper |
22:55.39 | JeffM2501 | by those same rules, you shuld get the newest you can afford when you upgrade, to keep it as long as you can :) |
22:55.54 | JeffM2501 | I should not have goten 6600s |
22:56.24 | bryjen | yup. more $$ just pushes your obsolescence farther into the future |
22:56.38 | bryjen | ~spell obsolescence |
22:57.29 | trepan | although the return on margin peters out |
22:58.02 | JeffM2501 | yeah it can deminish |
22:58.18 | JeffM2501 | it's best to get the newst bus that you can get |
22:58.23 | JeffM2501 | for more upgrade options in the futlre |
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23:07.28 | bz4484 | can someone tell me how to convert an rgb color to 'diffuse' numbers |
23:07.37 | JeffM2501 | divide by 256 |
23:07.56 | purple_cow | well, 255... |
23:07.57 | bz4484 | can someone tell me how to convert an rgb color to 'diffuse' numbers |
23:07.58 | JeffM2501 | 0 = 0, 255 = 1 |
23:08.00 | JeffM2501 | yeah sorry 255 |
23:08.08 | JeffM2501 | bz4484, stop asking and read :0 |
23:08.17 | bz4484 | sry it wasn't showing up |
23:08.30 | JeffM2501 | 0 = 0, 128 = 0.5 255 = 1.0 |
23:08.35 | bz4484 | ok ty |
23:08.41 | JeffM2501 | so white is 1,1,1 |
23:08.41 | bz4484 | c ya all |
23:08.45 | bz4484 | ok |
23:10.54 | ToughShooter | purple_cow: Is that you with the callsign "purplecow" playing on several servers? The username is not registered. |
23:11.37 | purple_cow | ToughShooter: i haven't played in months |
23:12.06 | ToughShooter | purple_cow: Then it seems to be an impersonator :/ |
23:12.15 | purple_cow | ok |
23:12.18 | JeffM2501 | they can happen |
23:13.28 | ToughShooter | I doubt some even have their own callsign |
23:19.03 | trepan | JeffM2501: or, just plain "white" |
23:20.10 | trepan | (not that that was useful in the slightest) |
23:20.14 | JeffM2501 | heh |
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23:20.58 | JeffM2501 | that was like on freaking cue |
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23:52.42 | bz0716 | is there a way to set a box so that only tanks of a certain (specified) team may drive through it? |
23:52.51 | trepan | no |
23:52.58 | bz0716 | hmmm |
23:53.05 | bz0716 | i know i saw it done on one server |
23:53.17 | bz0716 | maybe not a box lets just say an [object] |
23:53.27 | bz0716 | anyone? |
23:54.01 | trepan | find that server, save the map |
23:54.01 | bz0716 | anybody? |
23:54.21 | bz0716 | don't know what it was I played it along time ago, and now i have gotten into map making |
23:55.37 | bz0716 | well then |
23:55.53 | bz0716 | wait... can u set it to a physics driver |
23:56.00 | bz0716 | brb |
23:56.00 | trepan | no |
23:57.53 | cosmos | hrm |
23:58.08 | bz0716 | ? |
23:58.10 | bz0716 | ok |
23:58.13 | bz0716 | well then i g2g |
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