| 00:09.20 | Silent_Swan | woohoo... can go home shortly! |
| 00:09.34 | Aribeth | hheh |
| 00:09.48 | Silent_Swan | birds are probably wondering what happened to me |
| 00:13.30 | Silent_Swan | hmm......... if i order a pizza now, it should be there when i get home... |
| 00:22.16 | TD-Linux | still 3 hours until the wiki map? :( |
| 00:22.19 | TD-Linux | I can't stay up that late |
| 00:23.55 | Aribeth | drink lots of coffee |
| 00:24.15 | TD-Linux | ~lart myself |
| 00:24.17 | Aribeth | works for me |
| 00:24.43 | TD-Linux | ~lart himself |
| 00:24.47 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 00:24.49 | blast007 | ~wake TD-Linux |
| 00:24.52 | ibot | TD-Linux: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 00:25.23 | TD-Linux | ~drug TD-Linux |
| 00:25.25 | TD-Linux | aww |
| 00:25.35 | TD-Linux | ~sleep TD-Linux |
| 00:25.37 | ibot | ACTION sends TD-Linux to bed without supper |
| 00:25.40 | TD-Linux | ~sleep |
| 00:25.41 | ibot | hmm... sleep is overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine. |
| 00:25.51 | TD-Linux | ~wake |
| 00:25.53 | ibot | good morning |
| 00:25.57 | TD-Linux | ~fire |
| 00:25.58 | ibot | must .. burn .. stuff.. |
| 00:26.00 | TD-Linux | ~burn |
| 00:26.01 | ibot | "And it burns burns burns... the ring of fire..." |
| 00:26.01 | blast007 | ~botpark |
| 00:26.06 | ibot | #BotPark is a channel for testing and talking to irc bots. Please do not talk to the bots too much in normal channels. You may msg them or talk in #BotPark |
| 00:26.08 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 00:29.14 | TD-Linux | go to #botpark and type ~magic smoke |
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| 00:31.16 | blast007 | heh, smoking chips ;) |
| 00:31.31 | blast007 | I had one of them once |
| 00:31.56 | blast007 | some AMD chip fried, and even scorched the motherboard |
| 00:32.21 | TD-Linux | probably an xp |
| 00:32.27 | TD-Linux | no thermal protection in those |
| 00:32.38 | blast007 | think it was an 1800, so maybe |
| 00:32.39 | TD-Linux | a64 have thermal protection |
| 00:33.26 | TD-Linux | the getting high one was built in, I made the other one |
| 00:33.48 | TD-Linux | rather funny the order they come |
| 00:34.08 | TD-Linux | so, let's go burn an XP and get high.. |
| 00:34.11 | TD-Linux | rather expensive |
| 00:34.20 | blast007 | yeah |
| 00:34.46 | TD-Linux | needless to say, we probably don't need to get high, we have bzflag :) |
| 00:35.53 | blast007 | the only "high" I would ever be getting is "high definition" |
| 00:36.10 | shorty114 | heh |
| 00:36.45 | TD-Linux | :) |
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| 00:47.58 | I_Died_Once | I think a joint would do blast007 some justice |
| 00:48.55 | I_Died_Once | so did DTRemenak just completely fall off the face of the earth or what? |
| 00:49.17 | I_Died_Once | Do I need to bail him out of jail or something? |
| 00:54.16 | TD-Linux | he got in trouble for stealing a tank, paining it red camoflauge, and shooting rubber radioactive bullets at the army |
| 00:54.38 | TD-Linux | who knows, I haven't seen him either |
| 00:55.50 | blast007 | ~seen DTRemenak |
| 00:55.51 | ibot | dtremenak <n=DTRemena@DHCP-170-143.caltech.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1d 4h 47m 54s ago, saying: 'I just delete both posts and send "don't be a postwhore" messages'. |
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| 01:38.07 | I_Died_Once | word |
| 01:38.16 | I_Died_Once | Hi SilentSwan |
| 01:40.22 | Silent_Swan | hi I_Died_Once |
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| 02:05.36 | JeffM2501 | Silent_Swan, for your auto op thing, you want to set up some global reg groups |
| 02:05.40 | JeffM2501 | I can tell you how if you want to do it |
| 02:18.13 | Silent_Swan | ah, sorry, was awway for a sec.... |
| 02:18.21 | JeffM2501 | np |
| 02:18.30 | Silent_Swan | it would be nice... i thought i'd had it set correctly, but guess not |
| 02:18.55 | JeffM2501 | did you make a groups file? or do the -password thing? |
| 02:19.04 | Silent_Swan | created groups file |
| 02:19.09 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 02:19.14 | JeffM2501 | what did you put in the groups file? |
| 02:19.33 | Silent_Swan | i mostly left it as default |
| 02:19.39 | Silent_Swan | from the groups.conf file |
| 02:19.40 | JeffM2501 | yeah that won't cut it |
| 02:19.48 | Silent_Swan | but took out most of the stuff besides OP and SUBOP |
| 02:19.58 | JeffM2501 | what we have to do is make a set of global groups for you |
| 02:20.07 | JeffM2501 | then in your groups file you use those group names |
| 02:20.14 | Silent_Swan | ok |
| 02:20.20 | JeffM2501 | then on bzbb add the users who you want in those groups to each group |
| 02:20.43 | JeffM2501 | then the game uses the persons forum username and password to get what groups they are in, and your server asigns the rights based on those groups |
| 02:20.49 | JeffM2501 | what is your server name? |
| 02:20.52 | Silent_Swan | ok... |
| 02:20.56 | Silent_Swan | shattered.dyndns.org |
| 02:21.05 | JeffM2501 | and how many groups do you want? |
| 02:21.13 | JeffM2501 | owner, op and ,subop? |
| 02:21.19 | Silent_Swan | yeah, that wors |
| 02:21.20 | Silent_Swan | works |
| 02:22.12 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 02:22.17 | JeffM2501 | I'm makin your groups now |
| 02:22.25 | Silent_Swan | .thank you |
| 02:22.36 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 02:22.52 | JeffM2501 | now on bzbb under usergroups you will see 3 SHATTERED.XXXXXX groups |
| 02:22.58 | JeffM2501 | those are yours |
| 02:23.08 | JeffM2501 | set the group names in your file to be the same as those |
| 02:23.11 | Silent_Swan | thank you |
| 02:23.20 | JeffM2501 | you probably want to give owner every perm possible |
| 02:23.33 | JeffM2501 | then just add the people to the groups that you want to have the powers and you'll be good |
| 02:23.53 | Silent_Swan | ok, so do i add those groups to my local groups file as well? |
| 02:23.55 | JeffM2501 | basicly you are allready in those groups, so as soon as you set the owner group to have all the perms, you will "autoop" |
| 02:24.00 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 02:24.13 | JeffM2501 | the local groups file is how your server knows what perms each group is suposed to have |
| 02:24.19 | JeffM2501 | all it needs is the group name |
| 02:24.22 | Silent_Swan | ok thanks :) |
| 02:24.41 | JeffM2501 | the username and password part will be handled by the list server and bzbb |
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| 02:26.25 | I_Died_Once | thanks Jeff, I just got back |
| 02:26.31 | JeffM2501 | I_Died_Once, np |
| 02:26.39 | I_Died_Once | I had a hell of a time getting groups to work myself, Swan |
| 02:26.57 | JeffM2501 | because you overthunk it :) |
| 02:27.05 | I_Died_Once | stick with global management, its easier |
| 02:27.09 | I_Died_Once | hush |
| 02:28.09 | Silent_Swan | sorry, afk... phone ringeth |
| 02:28.17 | JeffM2501 | seting up globals is easyer then locals, less files |
| 02:28.44 | JeffM2501 | tho you had some libcurl issues as well IIRC |
| 02:29.29 | I_Died_Once | its alot easier that it gets made out to be |
| 02:29.36 | I_Died_Once | I just didnt "get it" |
| 02:29.48 | I_Died_Once | I had libcurl issues on another machine I worked on |
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| 02:41.18 | I_Died_Once | so I am about to have to restart Planet MoFo - should I do it in free for all, rabbit hunt, CTF, pillbox - what? |
| 02:41.25 | RPG_ | FFA |
| 02:41.28 | RPG_ | no, CTF |
| 02:42.07 | I_Died_Once | anyone else? |
| 03:11.04 | Grumbler | if i were the muffin man....the muffin man.... |
| 03:18.42 | Aribeth | what would the muffin man do... |
| 03:33.06 | Tegan | he'd live on dreary lane? |
| 03:36.07 | Aribeth | heh |
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| 03:56.15 | ep | This place got a weather bot? |
| 03:58.53 | ep | !weather 77701 |
| 03:58.55 | TheLastSpartan | ep: The current temperature in Beaumont, Texas (77701) is 75°F. |
| 03:59.21 | ep | No wind conditions, schucks |
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| 04:16.41 | blast007 | ~weather KBPT |
| 04:16.56 | blast007 | bah...cut the wind speed off :/ |
| 04:17.50 | I_Died_Once | ~weather 31408 |
| 04:18.06 | I_Died_Once | !weather 31408 |
| 04:18.08 | TheLastSpartan | I_Died_Once: The current temperature in Savannah, Georgia (31408) is 73°F. |
| 04:20.46 | blast007 | http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/KBPT.html |
| 04:26.00 | JeffM2501 | anyone know who the hell "fried chicken" is? |
| 04:31.14 | trepan | ibot: jaah is just another asshat |
| 04:31.17 | ibot | trepan: okay |
| 04:51.20 | ep | wind at KBPT 55 to 69 mph at 12:17 EDT |
| 04:59.04 | JeffM2501 | ok how lame is it when somone posts a link to "jesus is hitler" in chat, and there only defense is "i thouhgt it was funny" |
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| 05:21.59 | JeffM2501 | ~bzfslist |
| 05:22.10 | JeffM2501 | ~bzflist |
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| 05:35.54 | silverfox | What's the deal with advertising a server to only certain groups? |
| 05:35.59 | silverfox | how is this done? |
| 05:43.44 | trepan | -advertise, explained in the man page |
| 05:45.54 | silverfox | nm, got it. |
| 05:46.59 | silverfox | trepan, is there already a nice webpage explaining replay/record that I can point my admins to? |
| 05:53.34 | silverfox | or even a non nice web page? |
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| 07:03.50 | silverfox | Well, there is now: http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/ReplayServer |
| 07:04.11 | silverfox | Let me know what you think. Is it clear? Suggested changes (feel free to make them yourself!) |
| 07:16.37 | trepan | silverfox: i find it strange that you've mentionned the undocumented pause but not loop ;) |
| 07:21.06 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/man/bzfs.6.in: mention /replay loop |
| 07:23.58 | trepan | silverfox: added a link to the Wiki FrontPage under Admin |
| 07:26.56 | silverfox | how long does it take for that to show up in CVS? http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/bzflag/man/bzfs.6.in?rev=2.13&view=log |
| 07:27.50 | trepan | up to 5 hrs, afaik |
| 07:28.13 | trepan | loop is just like play, except it'll wrap at the end |
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| 07:30.03 | trepan | 'loop [start end]' might also be nice to write at some point |
| 07:30.29 | silverfox | sure. |
| 07:30.44 | silverfox | that'd be doubly useful if there was a time index displayed during playback |
| 07:30.53 | trepan | use /record stat |
| 07:31.11 | trepan | oops, /replay stat |
| 07:31.15 | trepan | (they both work) |
| 07:32.22 | silverfox | I think a constant index (at least on replay) displayed at the top of the GUI would be nice. |
| 07:32.33 | silverfox | maybe a hotkey to display it similar to FPS and lag? |
| 07:33.40 | trepan | it's isn't currently available to the client, would need to hook the Msgs |
| 07:33.56 | silverfox | I see. |
| 07:34.08 | silverfox | that'd be a PITA I imagine. |
| 07:34.50 | silverfox | Probably rather hook the /playerlist info. |
| 07:37.51 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/man/bzfs.6.in: mention /replay stats |
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| 07:39.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: stupid 'n's |
| 07:40.19 | silverfox | what is that?!? |
| 07:40.44 | trepan | strncasecmp had the wrong length |
| 07:41.36 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 07:44.20 | silverfox | trepan, does http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/ReplayServer look OK? |
| 07:47.54 | trepan | looks pretty good, good enough that I won't be editing it :) |
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| 07:52.03 | creeperz | tis I |
| 07:52.05 | jomojo | trepan |
| 07:52.09 | creeperz | the drunken one |
| 07:52.19 | jomojo | silverfox just came up with something brilliant |
| 07:52.39 | jomojo | a white list using using global logings |
| 07:52.43 | jomojo | logins |
| 07:53.10 | jomojo | or anyone for that matter Pimpinella you around? |
| 07:53.27 | creeperz | Death_Barrel: homie, wake up |
| 07:53.44 | jomojo | the thing is to allow normal players to come and go as they please |
| 07:54.07 | jomojo | but if they are part of a hostban or range ban |
| 07:54.15 | jomojo | we use a white list only using global logins |
| 07:54.25 | jomojo | because many people have somewhat dynamic ips |
| 07:54.36 | trepan | it's already been talked about here |
| 07:54.41 | jomojo | if we could do that.. without requiring everyone to register |
| 07:54.50 | jomojo | that would be brilliant |
| 07:54.54 | jomojo | oh?? |
| 07:54.56 | jomojo | oops |
| 07:55.01 | trepan | sgk was doing something about it, surprise it isn't already done |
| 07:56.14 | jomojo | so it will allow most players to come and go without being globally approved, but will allow those who are in ban range to come and go by name?? |
| 07:57.05 | trepan | that was the idea |
| 07:57.20 | trepan | it didn't care enough to watch it unfold |
| 07:57.48 | jomojo | it puts the lotion on its back |
| 07:58.19 | creeperz | or it gets beaten to death with a nightstick? |
| 07:59.32 | I_Died_Once | So I cannnn set my server so that it only shows up on a chosen groups server list? |
| 08:00.17 | jomojo | I_Died_Once: yeah it is quite simple |
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| 12:28.44 | meacan | bzbb admins: spam at http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=52795 |
| 12:46.20 | menotume | meacan: thankyou, deleted |
| 13:15.40 | jomojo | menotume: you around? |
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| 14:13.17 | Roxport | hello |
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| 14:18.31 | Roxport | Can someone recommend bare-bones Linux distro (or other OS) to use on older (PII, 233Mhz, 256MB ram, 13G hd) to run bzfs? Thanks. |
| 14:19.05 | creeperz | 256megs of ram in that beast huh? :-P |
| 14:19.13 | creeperz | quite a bit for a pent II :-) |
| 14:19.43 | Roxport | lol |
| 14:21.45 | meacan | personally i would choose debian (without installing any gui) |
| 14:22.45 | Roxport | I want to be able to plug this (non-Win) box into the router to connect our winxp/dsl LAN here at home. |
| 14:22.52 | Roxport | w/o gui sounds great to me. |
| 14:23.05 | Roxport | is Suse still popular? |
| 14:24.18 | blast007 | Roxport: I've used ZipSlack on a 133MHz with 32MB RAM :) |
| 14:24.32 | Roxport | ok |
| 14:24.40 | blast007 | it fits in under 100MB too |
| 14:24.55 | blast007 | and the packages from the full slackware distro can be added to it |
| 14:25.28 | Roxport | cool, because my kids might need to use it for school (web, email, word processing, etc. light stuff) |
| 14:25.36 | blast007 | however, it's not the easiest distro to use |
| 14:25.50 | Roxport | ah, is there good doc/support on web? |
| 14:26.09 | blast007 | ah, the zipslack is very minimal, a.k.a. no compiler or GUI unless you add the packages |
| 14:26.10 | Roxport | not easiest to _use_, or _install_? or both? |
| 14:26.37 | blast007 | the package manager leaves much to desire, and there aren't a lot of nice wizards to do everything |
| 14:26.48 | blast007 | the install wasn't bad |
| 14:27.13 | blast007 | it could even run from a FAT partition along side windows 98 |
| 14:27.35 | Roxport | main thing is: will h/w be supported in whatever distro i choose. back 6 years ago when i messed with RH5.0, h/w support(drivers) was minimal. |
| 14:28.30 | blast007 | it detected my hardware pretty good |
| 14:28.40 | Roxport | zipslack did? cool |
| 14:29.02 | blast007 | my sound doesn't work yet, but I think I need to compile my own ALSA |
| 14:29.36 | blast007 | for the window manager, I used Fluxbox cuz it's very minimal on resources |
| 14:30.02 | meacan | i think most distros can be installed onto that machine. Its just a matter of personal preferences and not installing kde :) |
| 14:30.14 | blast007 | yeah :) |
| 14:30.15 | Roxport | lol tks meacan |
| 14:30.27 | Roxport | Fluxbox kind of like Xwindows? |
| 14:30.51 | blast007 | fluxbox runs on x |
| 14:31.04 | Roxport | ok |
| 14:31.19 | Roxport | Fluxbox kind of like gnome or kde then. |
| 14:31.20 | blast007 | http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/ |
| 14:31.23 | blast007 | yup |
| 14:31.23 | Roxport | tks |
| 14:31.36 | meacan | except it isnt as large |
| 14:31.56 | meacan | fluxbox is much smaller and basic compared to gnome or kde |
| 14:32.20 | Roxport | possible to fiddle with source code and recompile right? (fluxbox) |
| 14:32.31 | meacan | yeah |
| 14:32.46 | Roxport | (to self: duh it's not windows, dummy) |
| 14:32.49 | meacan | but if you use debian, you can just do apt-get install flubox, and you got it |
| 14:33.14 | meacan | hornestly, im quite addicted to debians packagesystem. |
| 14:33.30 | meacan | it makes it so easy to upgrade your system with the lastest software and keeping up with it |
| 14:33.58 | meacan | I dont compilg/recompile anything except if i want to change/add something |
| 14:36.00 | meacan | people have different taste regarding this. Luckily for me, mine is the correct one :-) |
| 14:36.37 | Roxport | meacan: that's awesome. well, as usual, i have to go afk. Mucho thanks people. |
| 14:36.44 | Roxport | later |
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| 15:36.14 | RPG_ | does anyone have any suggestions for a motherboard that costs anywhere from $200 to $350? |
| 15:37.10 | RPG_ | got a $1200 budget for mobo, cpu, memory, gfx, HD, CD/DVD, case, monitor, speakers |
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| 16:23.24 | Aribeth | !weather 30040 |
| 16:23.27 | TheLastSpartan | Aribeth: The current temperature in Cumming, Georgia (30040) is 85°F. |
| 16:23.55 | Aribeth | RPG, ASUS makes some good boards |
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| 16:48.58 | Tupone | hi brlcad / learner |
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| 16:57.22 | bz8521 | I got an error message: "Unknown BZDB variable: _drawCelestial" |
| 16:57.33 | bz8521 | when I tried to run a server. |
| 16:57.44 | bz8521 | it won't run the map |
| 16:57.55 | trepan | delete that line from the map |
| 16:58.05 | bz8521 | i tried that. |
| 16:58.26 | bz8521 | it loads a new one "_draw" something else |
| 16:58.33 | bz8521 | and int he end, the map doesn't work |
| 16:58.45 | trepan | delete all of the _draw lines |
| 16:58.52 | bz8521 | i doesn't have any floor then |
| 16:59.00 | trepan | huh? |
| 16:59.14 | bz8521 | after i delete allthe _draw lines the floor dissapears |
| 16:59.25 | bz8521 | there's a _drawGround |
| 16:59.31 | bz8521 | let me open it. |
| 16:59.45 | trepan | the default values are sufficient |
| 16:59.45 | JeffM2501 | should he just not upgrade? |
| 17:00.18 | bz8521 | is my version the problem? |
| 17:00.56 | JeffM2501 | the map uses things your version dosn't know about |
| 17:01.05 | JeffM2501 | what version of the server/cilent are you using? |
| 17:01.19 | bz8521 | bzflag2.0.2 for the game |
| 17:01.29 | bz8521 | for the server bzfs |
| 17:01.36 | bz8521 | the program that came with it |
| 17:01.43 | JeffM2501 | that would also be 2.0.2 |
| 17:01.51 | JeffM2501 | what OS? |
| 17:02.03 | bz8521 | i use windows xp |
| 17:02.10 | JeffM2501 | there is a 2.0.4rc3 |
| 17:02.24 | bz8521 | of Bzflag? |
| 17:02.40 | JeffM2501 | yes, what else would it be |
| 17:03.03 | bz8521 | where do i find it |
| 17:03.11 | JeffM2501 | my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 17:04.21 | Aribeth | in the vacume of space ;) |
| 17:04.55 | bz8521 | k. |
| 17:04.56 | bz8521 | thatnks |
| 17:09.30 | bz8521 | are you familiar with the metropolatian map? |
| 17:09.36 | bz8521 | that's the one i want to load |
| 17:09.41 | bz8521 | your program worked |
| 17:09.47 | bz8521 | except when i loaded the server |
| 17:09.54 | bz8521 | it told me the tank rusted. |
| 17:10.01 | bz8521 | the ground was missing. |
| 17:10.14 | bz8521 | like when i deleted _draw lines |
| 17:10.48 | JeffM2501 | that is a rathe complex map |
| 17:11.18 | bz8521 | it is. |
| 17:11.30 | bz8521 | do you think that is should go with something simpler? |
| 17:11.44 | JeffM2501 | best would be to pm louman, he made it |
| 17:11.46 | JeffM2501 | it's a fine map |
| 17:11.59 | JeffM2501 | it may just require you to set somet things other then whats in the map |
| 17:12.23 | bz8521 | so how do i get ahold of louman |
| 17:12.47 | Pimpinella | bzbb |
| 17:12.52 | JeffM2501 | send him a pm on the fourms |
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| 17:14.18 | bz8521 | k. |
| 17:14.22 | bz8521 | thanks |
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| 17:16.24 | gsnedders | hi brad |
| 17:16.38 | gsnedders | (UGM 'ere, for those who don't know my real name ;)) |
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| 17:17.46 | brad2901 | hi gsnedders |
| 17:17.48 | brad2901 | ah |
| 17:18.31 | gsnedders | (Geoffrey Malcolm Sneddon == my real name) |
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| 17:41.59 | blast007 | Dev-C++ build seems to be broken |
| 17:51.50 | JeffM2501 | there is a huge suprise |
| 17:51.53 | blast007 | ;) |
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| 18:13.09 | I_Died_Once | .... |
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| 18:23.46 | CBG | mecan! ping! fortix is broken! |
| 18:26.01 | JeffM2501 | CBG, in what way? |
| 18:26.10 | JeffM2501 | is it no longer shoing who is online and stuff? |
| 18:26.14 | CBG | Its not showing any data. |
| 18:26.18 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:26.21 | CBG | I guess perhaps the list server is down? |
| 18:26.26 | JeffM2501 | we blocked it form the list server |
| 18:26.28 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 18:26.31 | CBG | Oh. |
| 18:26.36 | CBG | Why? :/ |
| 18:26.58 | JeffM2501 | the fortix site was polling the list server at an alarming rate, and was cuasing the listserver and bzbb to crash |
| 18:27.04 | JeffM2501 | so we blocked it untill they can fix it |
| 18:27.15 | CBG | ahha, ok :) |
| 18:28.10 | Aribeth | its was pounding my server and secretplace about every 20 seconds |
| 18:28.13 | meacan | CBG: david have been notified. And I dont highlight on mecan, just meacan, dmp, dennis :-) |
| 18:28.36 | CBG | meacan: ah, sorry. :) |
| 18:28.47 | JeffM2501 | does he know what the problem is? |
| 18:29.37 | meacan | JeffM2501: No reply from him. Last time i spoke with him, he said he was pretty busy with uni-stuff. |
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| 18:29.58 | Aribeth | hi Sporty |
| 18:30.08 | SportChick | hi aribeth |
| 18:32.13 | JeffM2501 | well if he's blocked from the list, he probably can't scan the other servers too, sine he won't have input |
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| 19:26.58 | Ice_Wewe | !seen "JB DiGriz" |
| 19:26.59 | TheLastSpartan | Ice_Wewe: I have not seen JB DiGriz. |
| 19:27.24 | Ice_Wewe | hmmm, well that would explain a lot |
| 19:27.48 | Ice_Wewe | !seen "Win Xp" |
| 19:27.48 | TheLastSpartan | Ice_Wewe: I have not seen Win Xp. |
| 19:27.56 | Ice_Wewe | !seen "Ice Wewe" |
| 19:27.56 | TheLastSpartan | Ice_Wewe: I have not seen Ice Wewe. |
| 19:28.02 | Ice_Wewe | eh? |
| 19:28.03 | Ice_Wewe | oh |
| 19:28.10 | Ice_Wewe | !seen "JB_DiGriz" |
| 19:28.10 | TheLastSpartan | Ice_Wewe: I have not seen JB_DiGriz. |
| 19:28.18 | Ice_Wewe | !seen "Ice_Wewe" |
| 19:28.18 | TheLastSpartan | Ice_Wewe: Ice_Wewe was last seen here 7 seconds ago saying: <Ice_Wewe> !seen "JB_DiGriz" |
| 19:28.43 | Ice_Wewe | !seen Tupone |
| 19:28.44 | TheLastSpartan | Ice_Wewe: Tupone was last seen here 2 hours, 39 minutes, and 44 seconds ago saying: <Tupone> hi brlcad / learner |
| 19:28.57 | Ice_Wewe | !seen LouMan |
| 19:28.58 | TheLastSpartan | Ice_Wewe: LouMan was last seen here 1 week, 4 days, 16 hours, 34 minutes, and 12 seconds ago saying: <LouMan> thx |
| 19:29.24 | Ice_Wewe | thx TheLastSpartan |
| 19:29.25 | TheLastSpartan | I don't have a clue. |
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| 19:31.15 | Ice_Wewe | wha? |
| 19:31.24 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: bzbb says I don't exist! |
| 19:31.41 | JeffM2501 | what is your username? |
| 19:31.52 | Ice_Wewe | oh... |
| 19:31.59 | Ice_Wewe | my bad |
| 19:32.12 | Ice_Wewe | was replacing the space with a _ (like you have to do in xchat) |
| 19:33.17 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: wow, nice logo |
| 19:33.31 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 19:33.45 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: your sig photo |
| 19:33.49 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 19:33.56 | JeffM2501 | just a compbination of crap |
| 19:34.33 | Ice_Wewe | how did you manage to make that? |
| 19:34.36 | Ice_Wewe | it looks great! |
| 19:34.48 | JeffM2501 | umm it's the base logo backgroun |
| 19:34.51 | JeffM2501 | the bzlfag icon |
| 19:34.54 | JeffM2501 | and some text |
| 19:34.57 | JeffM2501 | that's it |
| 19:35.09 | Ice_Wewe | cool |
| 19:35.19 | JeffM2501 | took like a min to make |
| 19:36.23 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: where did you get the massive text in the background? |
| 19:36.54 | JeffM2501 | I typed it |
| 19:37.00 | Ice_Wewe | in what? |
| 19:37.01 | JeffM2501 | MASSIVE |
| 19:37.02 | Ice_Wewe | word art? |
| 19:37.03 | JeffM2501 | just like that |
| 19:37.07 | JeffM2501 | word? |
| 19:37.09 | JeffM2501 | god no |
| 19:37.14 | JeffM2501 | photoshop |
| 19:37.24 | Ice_Wewe | do you have that without the JeffM2501 superscript? |
| 19:37.31 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 19:37.34 | JeffM2501 | it's just text |
| 19:37.38 | Ice_Wewe | oh... :( ok |
| 19:37.56 | Ice_Wewe | well I don't exactly have the bucks for Photoshop (heh, its like $600) |
| 19:37.57 | JeffM2501 | why do you want to use my logo |
| 19:37.59 | JeffM2501 | it's lame |
| 19:38.01 | JeffM2501 | use gimp |
| 19:38.02 | JeffM2501 | it's free |
| 19:38.09 | JeffM2501 | there are many image editors out there |
| 19:38.10 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: Gimp can't make text like that |
| 19:38.14 | JeffM2501 | sure it can |
| 19:38.29 | JeffM2501 | it's just not going to be automatic |
| 19:38.32 | JeffM2501 | you'll have to DRAW |
| 19:38.43 | Tupone | JeffM2501: anything against release? No critical items to be fixed, except the Mouse Enhancement things ? |
| 19:38.58 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, saw a report of the admin channel not working |
| 19:39.06 | JeffM2501 | that is the only thing I see standing in the way |
| 19:39.10 | JeffM2501 | I did a RC3 last night |
| 19:39.16 | JeffM2501 | so I think we are close |
| 19:39.19 | JeffM2501 | very close |
| 19:39.29 | Tupone | I saw even a problem with an intel board and strange texture |
| 19:39.34 | Tupone | in bzbb |
| 19:39.44 | JeffM2501 | he had screwed up settings |
| 19:39.52 | JeffM2501 | those chipsets suck |
| 19:39.59 | JeffM2501 | IIRC he's working now |
| 19:40.13 | Tupone | well, there is something that does not suck ? |
| 19:40.14 | JeffM2501 | nothing in our GL code can cause that |
| 19:40.22 | Tupone | :) |
| 19:40.38 | JeffM2501 | he was doing bilinear filtering, and his chipset can't do it |
| 19:41.08 | JeffM2501 | I say you post a tarball for RC3, we let it sit overnight and then release tomorow |
| 19:41.18 | JeffM2501 | it would be cool to have a mac RC3 as well |
| 19:41.25 | JeffM2501 | at least one build for each OS |
| 19:41.29 | JeffM2501 | before we say it's cool |
| 19:41.40 | JeffM2501 | we havne't tested the mac packages in a long while |
| 19:41.58 | Tupone | have you marked that release in CVS ? |
| 19:41.58 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, pingo pango pongo |
| 19:42.03 | JeffM2501 | no I did not |
| 19:42.10 | JeffM2501 | don't think anything has changed since tho |
| 19:42.11 | Tupone | Hmm, bad guy |
| 19:42.19 | Tupone | what time ? |
| 19:42.35 | JeffM2501 | let me check the date on the installer |
| 19:42.35 | Tupone | time of post ? |
| 19:42.51 | _Manu_ | a good name for the release 'ME discordia' heh |
| 19:42.59 | JeffM2501 | 4:31PM my time |
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| 19:43.17 | JeffM2501 | the name for the relese sould be 'modular meyhem' |
| 19:43.18 | brlcad | JeffM2501: pongo pango pingo |
| 19:43.28 | _Manu_ | kidding ;) |
| 19:43.33 | JeffM2501 | plugisn is way biger then a simple mouse bug that has been there forever ;) |
| 19:43.41 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, can you do a RC3 package for the mac |
| 19:43.49 | JeffM2501 | just to make sure that if we release we'd be ok |
| 19:44.10 | Tupone | a mouse bug ? when, where ? |
| 19:44.16 | JeffM2501 | your ME stuff |
| 19:44.19 | brlcad | possibly |
| 19:44.20 | JeffM2501 | I call it a mouse bug ;) |
| 19:44.23 | _Manu_ | a mouse is not a bug :) |
| 19:44.33 | JeffM2501 | a chimera mouse can be |
| 19:44.59 | Tupone | 2005-09-24 09:39 trepan* src/bzfs/commands.cxx: stupid 'n's |
| 19:45.11 | Tupone | dunno if that is before or after |
| 19:45.16 | _Manu_ | heh.. bad comparing :) |
| 19:45.18 | JeffM2501 | probalby after |
| 19:45.21 | JeffM2501 | it dosnt' mater |
| 19:45.32 | JeffM2501 | I can rebuild RC3 now if you want :) |
| 19:45.38 | JeffM2501 | tag then tell me |
| 19:45.41 | JeffM2501 | and I'll rebuild |
| 19:45.45 | Tupone | we could do rc4 then :) |
| 19:45.55 | JeffM2501 | if you wanted |
| 19:45.59 | JeffM2501 | I think it'll be fine |
| 19:46.02 | Tupone | if someone already used that |
| 19:46.10 | JeffM2501 | maybe 1 or 2 |
| 19:46.19 | JeffM2501 | ok rc 4 it is then |
| 19:47.10 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: rc4 version |
| 19:49.17 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 19:49.34 | JeffM2501 | sucked cus it was in a distructor too, looked like it just hung on close :) |
| 19:50.08 | Tupone | JeffM2501: you need to do other changes before tagging ? |
| 19:50.15 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 19:50.21 | JeffM2501 | that's why I did that right then |
| 19:50.22 | JeffM2501 | that's it |
| 19:50.40 | JeffM2501 | unless somone can verify the admin channel thing |
| 19:52.35 | JeffM2501 | you can set the params spawns use as well |
| 19:52.37 | _Manu_ | Pimpinella, I fixed it ;) |
| 19:52.47 | Pimpinella | yeah :) |
| 19:53.26 | Pimpinella | hmm, when? |
| 19:53.58 | _Manu_ | just restarting the server :) |
| 19:54.26 | Pimpinella | well....................................not sure if thats what i meant... |
| 19:54.40 | _Manu_ | respawn bug.. and flag team bug |
| 19:54.48 | Pimpinella | yeah |
| 19:54.53 | Pimpinella | but it still happens |
| 19:55.15 | _Manu_ | oh :/ |
| 19:55.57 | Pimpinella | no restart neccessary, just everybody needs to leave and things work fine again |
| 19:56.06 | Tupone | plugins are so important that some bugs here or there should not delay release |
| 19:56.12 | Pimpinella | /superkill |
| 19:56.17 | _Manu_ | somebody reports also in viper: "Server error when adding player, player already added" |
| 19:56.27 | JeffM2501 | only bugs in the API |
| 19:56.31 | _Manu_ | just when some players joining |
| 19:56.38 | JeffM2501 | bugs in specific plugins can be fixed after |
| 19:56.45 | JeffM2501 | since all those plugins are just meant to be samples :) |
| 19:57.03 | JeffM2501 | we arn't going to get every bug |
| 19:57.05 | Pimpinella | and flags dissapear regulary on gu |
| 19:57.11 | Pimpinella | sure |
| 19:57.23 | JeffM2501 | I think the API is good enough for rellease now |
| 19:57.26 | Tupone | JeffM2501: I hope that you remove those plugins from the tree very soon |
| 19:57.44 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, no, they are meant to show users what they can do, they stay in the tree |
| 19:57.49 | _Manu_ | it recalls me the wrong team counters bug.. |
| 19:57.52 | Pimpinella | JeffM2501: have you seen meacan's stuff in sf patches? |
| 19:57.58 | JeffM2501 | Pimpinella, no |
| 19:58.06 | JeffM2501 | what are they? |
| 19:58.12 | JeffM2501 | his plugins? |
| 19:58.15 | Pimpinella | he made some additional events |
| 19:58.23 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 19:58.29 | JeffM2501 | there are a TON of events we can add |
| 19:58.34 | Pimpinella | havn't looked at the code though |
| 19:58.37 | JeffM2501 | why didn't he just commit them? |
| 19:58.45 | JeffM2501 | I thought it was one of "us" |
| 19:58.57 | Pimpinella | he thinks he isn't supposed to commit something... |
| 19:59.04 | JeffM2501 | why not? |
| 19:59.06 | JeffM2501 | that's stupid |
| 19:59.09 | Pimpinella | no idea |
| 19:59.17 | JeffM2501 | the point of the thing is for people to work on it :) |
| 19:59.22 | JeffM2501 | are they important events? |
| 19:59.24 | JeffM2501 | do we need them? |
| 19:59.42 | Tupone | we don't need any :) |
| 20:00.08 | JeffM2501 | sure, and we don't need most things that get put in |
| 20:00.10 | Pimpinella | dunno, just have quick look on it |
| 20:00.46 | JeffM2501 | so Tupone you just want to pull plugins? |
| 20:01.08 | Tupone | I'm making dist now |
| 20:01.16 | Tupone | I'm very tired of all this |
| 20:01.37 | JeffM2501 | ahh he added, bz_shutdown() / bz_superkill() / bz_gameOver() |
| 20:01.39 | JeffM2501 | good ones |
| 20:01.43 | JeffM2501 | he should have commited them |
| 20:02.00 | JeffM2501 | if we find a major bug and have to do anotehr build I'll commit it, if not he was just too late then |
| 20:02.41 | JeffM2501 | sorry if the API grates your neves Tupone |
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| 20:03.54 | JeffM2501 | RC4 is uploading now |
| 20:06.03 | JeffM2501 | and posted |
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| 20:06.39 | TD-Linux | Can you assign a material to a group? |
| 20:08.23 | JeffM2501 | try and see |
| 20:08.40 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 20:10.24 | TD-Linux | you can! ty devs who did that! :) |
| 20:11.03 | JeffM2501 | that would be trepan |
| 20:13.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (104 files in 26 dirs): remove the old busted joint |
| 20:19.50 | TD-Linux | sooooo.... long... until... wiki... map.... |
| 20:21.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (93 files in 18 dirs): add new hotness |
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| 20:23.44 | TD-Linux | added new 'hotness' ? |
| 20:24.21 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:24.40 | TD-Linux | is that some G3D term or is it as in 'cool' ? |
| 20:25.01 | JeffM2501 | you should watch more movies |
| 20:25.15 | JeffM2501 | "old and busted."....."new hotness" |
| 20:25.23 | TD-Linux | ohhh |
| 20:25.44 | JeffM2501 | unlimted technology from the entire universe and we drive around in a Ford POS |
| 20:25.57 | TD-Linux | hmm... do I need directx sdk to compile bzflag for windows? i assume so, but it's a big download |
| 20:26.18 | JeffM2501 | what compiler do you have? |
| 20:26.55 | TD-Linux | VC++ Express 2005 Beta 2 |
| 20:26.59 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 20:27.02 | JeffM2501 | you need directX |
| 20:27.08 | TD-Linux | and the PSDK |
| 20:27.12 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 20:27.19 | JeffM2501 | doubt bz will build in 2k5 |
| 20:27.28 | JeffM2501 | the projects are not setup for it |
| 20:27.41 | TD-Linux | Microsoft went to great lengths to make it hard to put the psdk into the express editions |
| 20:27.43 | JeffM2501 | you also need curl |
| 20:27.49 | TD-Linux | downloading curl now.. |
| 20:27.50 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, not really |
| 20:27.56 | JeffM2501 | you just set the paths |
| 20:28.05 | JeffM2501 | it will probalby have build errors |
| 20:28.11 | JeffM2501 | just so you know |
| 20:28.14 | TD-Linux | you have to oopen a file to update paths |
| 20:28.22 | TD-Linux | they removed the paths page from the options |
| 20:28.25 | TD-Linux | gui thing |
| 20:28.38 | JeffM2501 | I'd just add the files to the normal paths :) |
| 20:29.05 | TD-Linux | and delete a few files, open some files, modify some files for building in windows, make the w32 button pop up, add additional includes in another file... |
| 20:29.26 | TD-Linux | where should I stick the contents of the libcURL dev package? |
| 20:29.35 | JeffM2501 | wherever VC can find it |
| 20:29.40 | JeffM2501 | it's gotta be part of the build |
| 20:30.52 | TD-Linux | does it go in bin, include, or lib? |
| 20:31.03 | JeffM2501 | all of them |
| 20:31.04 | TD-Linux | i assume the stuff that came in the include folder goes in the vc include folder |
| 20:31.17 | JeffM2501 | now your thinking |
| 20:31.42 | TD-Linux | what about the object file library? lib? |
| 20:31.57 | JeffM2501 | what is allready in the lib folder? |
| 20:32.24 | TD-Linux | obj file librareis ;) |
| 20:32.40 | TD-Linux | dll goes in bin... |
| 20:33.12 | TD-Linux | where does the exports library file go? |
| 20:33.18 | TD-Linux | I don't see any others in lib |
| 20:33.22 | JeffM2501 | all you need is the export lib |
| 20:33.41 | JeffM2501 | what is it's file extension? |
| 20:34.07 | TD-Linux | .exp |
| 20:34.12 | JeffM2501 | you don't need it |
| 20:34.27 | JeffM2501 | all you need is in the import lib |
| 20:39.34 | TD-Linux | vc 2005 has a conversion wizard |
| 20:40.01 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure it does |
| 20:40.46 | TD-Linux | for fun, while I wait for directx to download, I hade some fun and built bzflag without the directx sdk |
| 20:41.00 | JeffM2501 | that's fun? |
| 20:41.04 | TD-Linux | 10 succeded |
| 20:41.34 | *** join/#bzflag snick (n=test@dsl-80-42-184-235.access.as9105.com) |
| 20:41.38 | TD-Linux | hehe: syntax error: 'if' |
| 20:41.45 | TD-Linux | syntax error: 'return' |
| 20:41.52 | TD-Linux | syntax error: '}' |
| 20:42.06 | JeffM2501 | ummm thanks for sharing |
| 20:42.28 | TD-Linux | quite descriptive, aren't they? ;) |
| 20:42.39 | TD-Linux | nooo! |
| 20:43.01 | TD-Linux | dxsdk is not a valid win32 application |
| 20:43.14 | JeffM2501 | didn't download right then |
| 20:43.23 | TD-Linux | wow, what a waste of time ;) |
| 20:45.38 | TD-Linux | isn't that nice... IE caches download so that it just copies from the last download... I can't re-dowload it with IE! I can't use firefox because the validiation tool dosen't work ;( |
| 20:46.22 | JeffM2501 | just go clear your cache and stop whining |
| 20:46.26 | Grumbler | even if you clear the cache |
| 20:46.26 | JeffM2501 | I mean damn |
| 20:46.35 | JeffM2501 | manyaly clear the download file |
| 20:47.31 | TD-Linux | how do you turn it off completely? I don't want IE caching when I rarely use it |
| 20:47.38 | JeffM2501 | I dono |
| 20:47.40 | JeffM2501 | I odn't use IE |
| 20:47.42 | JeffM2501 | it sucks |
| 20:47.48 | TD-Linux | It does, I agree |
| 20:47.55 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure there is a setting |
| 20:47.59 | JeffM2501 | for when to cache |
| 20:48.03 | JeffM2501 | and you set it to never |
| 20:48.17 | TD-Linux | I have to use it, the validiation tool for non-activex browsers dosent' work for me when I do microsoft downloads |
| 20:48.26 | TD-Linux | but for all else, I use firefox |
| 20:48.35 | TD-Linux | safari is interesting also |
| 20:49.04 | JeffM2501 | there are ways around it |
| 20:49.28 | TD-Linux | I deleted the cache... but it's still in the cache! |
| 20:49.38 | JeffM2501 | then you didn't delete the right cache |
| 20:49.39 | *** join/#bzflag snick (n=test@dsl-80-42-184-235.access.as9105.com) |
| 20:49.51 | JeffM2501 | because if you deleted it, where would it get the file from? |
| 20:50.02 | TD-Linux | I'll delete it manually |
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| 20:52.11 | snick | hi |
| 20:52.21 | snick | any bzflag developers listening? |
| 20:52.35 | JeffM2501 | we read, not listen :) |
| 20:52.54 | snick | metaphor.. |
| 20:54.52 | TD-Linux | this isn't good. I clear the cache... but it still remains! |
| 20:55.09 | TD-Linux | I can see it says copying... I will search for that folder |
| 20:55.28 | JeffM2501 | TD-Linux, then that is not the cache you think it is, just search for the file |
| 20:56.25 | TD-Linux | idzw5gve |
| 20:58.06 | JeffM2501 | why do you need to build bz anyway? |
| 20:58.47 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (6 files in 5 dirs): break up ap flow for game/menu states |
| 20:58.48 | TD-Linux | I don't *need* to |
| 20:59.20 | TD-Linux | I do *want* to complie plugins, I already can, and i just figured i might as well compile bz too |
| 20:59.33 | JeffM2501 | I tell you, it's not going to go well in 2k5 |
| 20:59.47 | JeffM2501 | we have not upgraded the code to be compatable with it |
| 20:59.51 | TD-Linux | look at where I found the temporary file |
| 20:59.55 | JeffM2501 | we still use depriciated code |
| 20:59.57 | TD-Linux | in the address bar: |
| 21:00.02 | TD-Linux | dowload.microsoft |
| 21:00.52 | TD-Linux | noooooooooooooo! It still has the file! |
| 21:01.10 | JeffM2501 | ok man, please don't tell us about it again, we arn't your MS tech support |
| 21:01.19 | TD-Linux | sry |
| 21:01.43 | JeffM2501 | you just go off way to much |
| 21:01.48 | JeffM2501 | figure it out and fix it |
| 21:29.39 | TD-Linux | I like my colorful bzadmin ;) |
| 21:41.18 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: I'm finished making my sig logo |
| 21:41.31 | BenUrban | eew |
| 21:41.36 | BenUrban | you used logo to make your sig? |
| 21:41.41 | Ice_Wewe | no |
| 21:41.55 | Ice_Wewe | I used JeffM2501's sig logo, and modded it to have my name not his |
| 21:42.02 | Ice_Wewe | (I hope he doesn't mind) |
| 21:42.48 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501 how do you create a sig pic? |
| 21:43.02 | Ice_Wewe | I'm in my profile and it will only let me upload an avatar |
| 21:46.23 | Ice_Wewe | is there an image string that I can insert? |
| 21:46.49 | blast007 | yeah, [img] |
| 21:47.19 | blast007 | do you have the image on a webhost somewhere? |
| 21:47.22 | Ice_Wewe | so its "[img]http://website.com/hosts/my/image/image.png" |
| 21:47.40 | blast007 | you need an end tag too |
| 21:47.47 | Ice_Wewe | so its "[img]http://website.com/hosts/my/image/image.png[img]" |
| 21:47.59 | Ice_Wewe | like that? |
| 21:48.04 | blast007 | ... |
| 21:48.07 | Ice_Wewe | ok, I'll get it uploaded to the website |
| 21:48.08 | Ice_Wewe | brb |
| 21:48.12 | blast007 | [/img] |
| 21:49.03 | blast007 | so you just stole his image, instead of making your own? |
| 21:55.42 | Ice_Wewe | nope |
| 21:55.45 | Ice_Wewe | I modded it |
| 21:55.48 | Ice_Wewe | cause I liked it |
| 21:55.57 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: will a .png image file work? |
| 21:58.01 | blast007 | it's an image, so yes |
| 21:58.10 | blast007 | png, jpeg, gif all work fine on the web |
| 21:58.35 | blast007 | except for transparent PNG24's in IE ;) |
| 22:00.20 | blast007 | bah...opening tag is [img], closing tag is [/img] |
| 22:00.27 | blast007 | just like bold |
| 22:04.09 | *** join/#bzflag Silent_Swan (n=silent@adsl-66-73-166-47.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 22:05.00 | blast007 | Ice_Wewe: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/faq.php?mode=bbcode |
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| 22:23.06 | Silent_Swan | just curious, but does adding bots (locally) to the server contribute much to lag? |
| 22:23.52 | Tupone | like other local players |
| 22:24.17 | Silent_Swan | so it won't have significant impact on others coming in from outside? |
| 22:24.32 | Tupone | traffic to outside is increased |
| 22:24.36 | Silent_Swan | ok |
| 22:24.41 | Silent_Swan | thanks |
| 22:24.43 | Tupone | has you have to communicate state of bot |
| 22:25.01 | Tupone | hi _bubbles_ |
| 22:26.59 | _bubbles_ | hi |
| 22:27.44 | Tupone | where do you play usually ? |
| 22:31.00 | _bubbles_ | me? |
| 22:31.05 | _bubbles_ | ducati style |
| 22:31.24 | Tupone | you :) |
| 22:31.36 | Tupone | me :-> Mouse Enhanced ? |
| 22:32.45 | Silent_Swan | brlcad, are you here? |
| 22:48.12 | Pimpinella | oh yeah, need to takl to brlcad too |
| 22:48.20 | Pimpinella | ^^^ping |
| 22:48.52 | Pimpinella | maybe tomorrow ;) |
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| 22:49.03 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 22:49.10 | Silent_Swan | hi JeffM2501 :) |
| 22:49.17 | Pimpinella | wb jeff |
| 22:49.27 | Silent_Swan | i owe you a big *sm00ch* for you help last night :) thanks a lot, everything works nicely now |
| 22:51.36 | JeffM2501 | your very welcome |
| 22:51.41 | JeffM2501 | glad it worked out |
| 22:53.05 | JeffM2501 | next you want to set up some plugins for more fun and games :) |
| 22:53.24 | Silent_Swan | yeah, i was looking through those the other day |
| 22:53.32 | Silent_Swan | rogue genocide? hmm :) |
| 22:53.44 | JeffM2501 | it can be fun |
| 22:54.10 | Silent_Swan | i always thought that either a) rogues should not get geno or, b) rogues should be able to be genocided |
| 22:54.20 | Silent_Swan | so that plugin sounds like something i may try out |
| 22:54.50 | JeffM2501 | it works prety well, grumbler had the idea and made the first one, then we cleaned it up a bit |
| 22:54.51 | purple_cow | why does everyone want to turn rogues into a team? :P |
| 22:55.03 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, because it can be interesting |
| 22:55.04 | Silent_Swan | not turning them into a team really |
| 22:55.16 | JeffM2501 | if you play those "other" games |
| 22:55.18 | Silent_Swan | just giving them a taste of their own medicine :) |
| 22:55.30 | Silent_Swan | and i shouldn't talk because i play rogue 99% of the time |
| 22:56.26 | Silent_Swan | oh? |
| 22:56.41 | JeffM2501 | leting people design there own out of a set of premade parts |
| 22:57.02 | Silent_Swan | oh no... haha |
| 22:57.04 | JeffM2501 | treads, boddy, turret, barrel, accessorys, etcc |
| 22:57.09 | JeffM2501 | logos and stuff |
| 22:57.12 | Silent_Swan | chopper tanks |
| 22:57.16 | JeffM2501 | but then we can still keep the size sane |
| 22:57.21 | JeffM2501 | and the colors meaningfull |
| 23:00.43 | JeffM2501 | I know you do |
| 23:01.01 | Silent_Swan | ufo's that fly over and randomly abduct tanks? |
| 23:01.31 | Silent_Swan | a little probing, then they let you go :) |
| 23:01.41 | blast007 | hehe |
| 23:02.46 | JeffM2501 | make the tanks come back and keep the rear treads off the ground |
| 23:03.43 | Silent_Swan | i remember somewhere i saw a suggestion for a trick flag or something... where tanks do backflips, ride on one tread, etc... |
| 23:03.58 | Silent_Swan | this could make for a very... amusing game ;) |
| 23:04.42 | JeffM2501 | can try lots of fun things... once 2.0.4 ships |
| 23:04.54 | Silent_Swan | any official release date? |
| 23:05.07 | JeffM2501 | soon |
| 23:05.28 | JeffM2501 | I did an RC4, if that's good it may be "it" |
| 23:06.46 | Silent_Swan | think that's what i've got running... server anyway.. |
| 23:07.07 | JeffM2501 | it's very close |
| 23:07.34 | JeffM2501 | if someone finds a big bug I'll add a couple API enhancments, if not then it's good to go |
| 23:08.00 | Silent_Swan | the only thing that was bugging me was the opengl stuff the other day |
| 23:08.08 | Silent_Swan | when building on solaris, client build fails |
| 23:08.24 | Silent_Swan | complaining about no gl.h, etc.... tried -lpthreads stuff, that didn't do it |
| 23:09.06 | Silent_Swan | but it's no big deal really... |
| 23:09.12 | Silent_Swan | brb - coffee time |
| 23:10.42 | JeffM2501 | bad thing about the tank parts thing is that I'd have to make a lot of art |
| 23:11.38 | purple_cow | i'm sure you could get some kid to make models for you! |
| 23:12.09 | JeffM2501 | yeah like hoda |
| 23:12.19 | JeffM2501 | and that guy that "owns" bzflag |
| 23:12.34 | purple_cow | the turret may have 20x the polygons of everything else, but you'd give some struggling young artist a purpose |
| 23:13.40 | JeffM2501 | you ever see/play City of Heroes purple_cow ? |
| 23:13.43 | purple_cow | nope |
| 23:14.05 | JeffM2501 | you should see at least the character creation system |
| 23:18.20 | Silent_Swan | let's see... i've a yard full of chipmunks and a red-tailed hawk hanging out in one of my trees... |
| 23:18.23 | Silent_Swan | this could be interesting |
| 23:19.30 | blast007 | get the camera |
| 23:19.33 | blast007 | ;) |
| 23:24.40 | Silent_Swan | anyplace i can get a good list of naughty words to put in a swear list? So far, I've got some choice english and german words... |
| 23:25.18 | Pimpinella | a swearlist comes with bz |
| 23:25.19 | TD-Linux | two lists come with the source distro of bzflag |
| 23:25.21 | TD-Linux | one is english |
| 23:25.24 | TD-Linux | one is multilingual |
| 23:25.28 | Silent_Swan | oh... i didn't see it |
| 23:25.39 | TD-Linux | I'll find them |
| 23:25.42 | blast007 | in the src, it's in misc/ I think |
| 23:25.43 | Silent_Swan | danke |
| 23:25.53 | Silent_Swan | ahhh i got it |
| 23:26.22 | TD-Linux | in the misc directory |
| 23:26.24 | Pimpinella | the multilingual is quite excessive, produces a lot of false positives |
| 23:26.31 | Silent_Swan | ok |
| 23:26.34 | TD-Linux | the simple swear one is good |
| 23:26.38 | Silent_Swan | just so long as english is blocked... |
| 23:26.43 | TD-Linux | don't open it in a text editor, however |
| 23:26.44 | Silent_Swan | i think i've got the german covered :) |
| 23:26.49 | Silent_Swan | why? |
| 23:26.50 | TD-Linux | you willl wish you hadn't |
| 23:27.02 | Silent_Swan | oh my |
| 23:27.03 | Silent_Swan | haha |
| 23:27.10 | TD-Linux | your vocablulary will greastly increase |
| 23:27.32 | Pimpinella | we collected it in a kindergarden |
| 23:27.38 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 23:27.44 | blast007 | :) |
| 23:27.47 | TD-Linux | :) |
| 23:27.53 | Silent_Swan | one of the german curses is misspelled |
| 23:27.57 | TD-Linux | ooh |
| 23:28.09 | TD-Linux | you acutally read through it? |
| 23:28.15 | Silent_Swan | and i've quite a collection of those i could add :) |
| 23:28.16 | Pimpinella | yeah, i know, forgot to update yet |
| 23:28.46 | blast007 | the simpleSwearList.txt has multiple languages too, if you don't want ot use the really big one |
| 23:28.57 | Silent_Swan | yeah, that's the one i'm using |
| 23:29.01 | blast007 | k |
| 23:29.20 | Pimpinella | i can read also _bubbahs_ |
| 23:29.22 | Silent_Swan | i've seen too many false positives when people say a word that ends in "sh" and the next word is "it" or something haha |
| 23:29.26 | TD-Linux | people already run out of english expletives at school, so they have to resort to other language |
| 23:29.39 | JeffM2501 | the word filter is not the greatest, but it does the best it can |
| 23:29.48 | Pimpinella | at least i can identify like every 3dr word |
| 23:30.01 | Pimpinella | oh, it's fast... |
| 23:30.35 | Pimpinella | and it's what they call fuzzy |
| 23:30.46 | Tupone | JeffM2501: don't lie. English and bad english ? :) |
| 23:31.15 | JeffM2501 | dude you spell better then I do |
| 23:31.15 | Pimpinella | oh yeah, never read english from him ;) |
| 23:32.10 | Silent_Swan | ah so THAT'S how you say that in greek *grin* |
| 23:33.04 | JeffM2501 | it's an impresive lists they've compiled |
| 23:34.03 | Pimpinella | my cat just told me it's bed time. g'nite tankers |
| 23:34.13 | JeffM2501 | did it now? |
| 23:34.19 | Silent_Swan | bye Pimpinella |
| 23:34.50 | JeffM2501 | have a good night with your pussy ;) |
| 23:35.01 | Silent_Swan | O.O |
| 23:35.08 | blast007 | *cough* |
| 23:35.13 | JeffM2501 | ohh somone had to say it |
| 23:35.21 | blast007 | yeah, I suppose ;) |
| 23:35.31 | Silent_Swan | generally i prefer to just think it :) |
| 23:35.40 | JeffM2501 | I'm a rebel |
| 23:35.44 | JeffM2501 | I live on the edge |
| 23:35.52 | Silent_Swan | i tried that, but i kept falling off |
| 23:36.00 | JeffM2501 | bungie cords |
| 23:36.03 | JeffM2501 | they work great |
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| 23:39.24 | brlcad | Silent_Swan: pong |
| 23:39.40 | Silent_Swan | oh hi... may i /msg you for a sec? |
| 23:39.50 | brlcad | heh, sure |
| 23:39.56 | Ice_Wewe | *** glibc detected *** realloc(): invalid pointer: 0x083fcf94 *** |
| 23:40.01 | Ice_Wewe | I get that error on some bzflag maps |
| 23:40.16 | brlcad | Silent_Swan: and no need to ask if you can /msg me in the future .. |
| 23:40.22 | Silent_Swan | k :) |
| 23:40.26 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: any ideas? |
| 23:40.45 | Ice_Wewe | o...k... ^o) |
| 23:41.00 | *** join/#bzflag JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 23:41.00 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 23:41.02 | Ice_Wewe | Tupone, some programmer could you help me? |
| 23:41.12 | Ice_Wewe | *** glibc detected *** realloc(): invalid pointer: 0x083fcf94 *** |
| 23:41.18 | Ice_Wewe | I get that on many maps |
| 23:41.26 | Ice_Wewe | the build is fresh, today ;) |
| 23:41.34 | JeffM2501 | wheeee loook at this mini crash :) |
| 23:41.39 | Ice_Wewe | lol |
| 23:41.45 | Ice_Wewe | so? whats the problem? |
| 23:41.49 | Tupone | is that gentoo ? |
| 23:41.52 | Ice_Wewe | nope |
| 23:41.56 | Ice_Wewe | Mandriva 2006 0.5 |
| 23:42.00 | Ice_Wewe | well, 0.4 |
| 23:42.03 | Ice_Wewe | I haven't rebooted yet |
| 23:42.14 | Ice_Wewe | its Mandriva 2006 Beta 1 |
| 23:43.14 | Ice_Wewe | grammer error, sorry |
| 23:43.33 | spldart | Can someone link me to the archive bzflag channel chat's.... I wanna look up the old help that jeffM gave me setting up my server a few months ago... |
| 23:43.41 | blast007 | ~logs |
| 23:43.43 | ibot | i heard logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 23:43.59 | spldart | ah... |
| 23:44.01 | spldart | Kew |
| 23:44.16 | spldart | Thanks :) |
| 23:45.40 | blast007 | :) |
| 23:46.02 | *** part/#bzflag Ice_Wewe (n=wili@ppp-216-106-103-164.storm.ca) |
| 23:46.06 | spldart | Anyone else busy fighting a hurricane? |
| 23:46.07 | *** join/#bzflag Ice_Wewe (n=wili@ppp-216-106-103-164.storm.ca) |
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| 23:47.36 | Ice_Wewe | *** glibc detected *** realloc(): invalid pointer: 0x083fcf94 *** |
| 23:47.38 | Ice_Wewe | wheeeee |
| 23:47.41 | Ice_Wewe | error! |
| 23:47.58 | Tupone | Ice_Wewe: do you have gdb ? |
| 23:48.13 | Ice_Wewe | Tupone: yes |
| 23:48.34 | Tupone | have you configured bzflag with --enable-debug ? |
| 23:49.55 | Ice_Wewe | don't think so |
| 23:50.40 | Ice_Wewe | Tupone: remaking |
| 23:50.50 | Ice_Wewe | gotta love P4's ;) |
| 23:52.10 | Ice_Wewe | BZFlag version 2.0.3.20050924-DEVEL-linux-gnu-SDL |
| 23:52.11 | Ice_Wewe | LIBCURL: libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.7g zlib/1.2.3 libidn/0.5.18 |
| 23:52.11 | Ice_Wewe | Scaling texture from 128x125 to 128x128 |
| 23:52.11 | Ice_Wewe | *** glibc detected *** realloc(): invalid pointer: 0x083fcd44 *** |
| 23:52.14 | Ice_Wewe | whoops |
| 23:52.16 | Ice_Wewe | sorry |
| 23:52.38 | Ice_Wewe | does that help you? |
| 23:52.55 | Tupone | dunno :/ |
| 23:53.19 | Ice_Wewe | thats all it gave me |
| 23:53.37 | Ice_Wewe | if you want more complex debugging you'll have to wait until it finishes rebuilding |
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