00:00.06 | JeffM2501 | I can get you there |
00:00.07 | JeffM2501 | it's easy |
00:00.10 | brlcad | JeffM2501: ze train! |
00:00.15 | autocosm2 | i'm bored, and plus it's nice to have more than one conversation. For example: what the heck are you guys talking about? |
00:00.25 | brlcad | JeffM2501: from baltimore to L.A. ;) |
00:00.30 | JeffM2501 | good lord |
00:00.32 | JeffM2501 | why? |
00:00.37 | brlcad | :) |
00:00.42 | DTRemenak | brlcad: add 50% to the scheduled arrival time |
00:00.45 | autocosm2 | what's wrong with trains? |
00:00.49 | JeffM2501 | they are slow |
00:00.54 | brlcad | DTRemenak: hehe, it's quite a bit more than that |
00:00.54 | autocosm2 | who cares |
00:00.59 | DTRemenak | UP likes to make Amtrak trains wait for freight :S |
00:01.00 | brlcad | 3 days (60 hours) |
00:01.08 | JeffM2501 | people who have lives care |
00:01.12 | autocosm2 | at least there's a lower chance of falling to your death.... |
00:01.13 | DTRemenak | yeah, if it's scheduled for 3 days, count on 4.5 |
00:01.28 | brlcad | that's 3 solid days of uninterrupted comfortable isolated working |
00:01.31 | JeffM2501 | autocosm2, more people die in train accedents every year |
00:01.34 | DTRemenak | yup :) |
00:01.36 | autocosm2 | and trains are fancier unless you have first class |
00:01.46 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, your ass is going to kill you |
00:01.47 | autocosm2 | oops |
00:02.06 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: nice thing about trains is there's lots of room to walk |
00:02.10 | JeffM2501 | true |
00:02.11 | autocosm2 | i mean planes are only good if u take 1st class, trains everybody feels good |
00:02.19 | brlcad | nah, the 8 hours ride up to Boston was excellent -- no ass soreness at all |
00:02.20 | JeffM2501 | I went one one from AZ to here, did not like it |
00:02.25 | brlcad | very comfortable actually |
00:02.29 | autocosm2 | how did u like boston? |
00:02.47 | DTRemenak | I like train travel in general. just wish UP would get with the game and give passenger trains the priority they used to have before Amtrak :( |
00:02.57 | JeffM2501 | hmm... to keep the bzedit changes or to revert them.... |
00:03.01 | autocosm2 | try going to Portland, ME |
00:03.05 | brlcad | boston was great, siggraph will be fun next year there |
00:03.35 | autocosm2 | I like the Quincy Market in Boston |
00:03.58 | brlcad | having all that time before and after siggraph to work is the primary reason |
00:04.10 | autocosm2 | I like the food, my friends say i'm a human garbage disposal |
00:04.11 | brlcad | 3 days uninterrupted, heck -- that's good codin' time |
00:04.32 | DTRemenak | also train stations are far, far superior to airports. especially these days. |
00:04.33 | trepan | the gov. monitors IRC too? |
00:04.48 | brlcad | the gov monitors all *ahem* |
00:04.49 | autocosm2 | yeah |
00:05.09 | autocosm2 | what dosen't the govt. know about? |
00:05.17 | brlcad | DTRemenak: no kidding -- hop'd on, picked my seat, gave the guy my ticket after we were well under way |
00:05.46 | brlcad | autocosm2: the gov't doesn't know how to do anything efficiently |
00:05.52 | autocosm2 | I got on picked my seat, and played video games for an hour |
00:05.53 | DTRemenak | yup :) I arrived two minutes before departure time last time. |
00:06.12 | DTRemenak | walked straight through the station, handed my ticket to the conductor, got on the train |
00:06.19 | autocosm2 | :) |
00:06.41 | autocosm2 | my conducter was English, he had a cool accent |
00:07.01 | autocosm2 | and he was dressed like something from the early 1900's |
00:07.02 | brlcad | boston's (big) station had wireless, albeit at a fee |
00:07.07 | DTRemenak | course the time before that I arrived five minutes after departure time and the train hadn't even arrived yet :) |
00:07.31 | autocosm2 | that normally happens |
00:07.57 | autocosm2 | Amtrack goes by near my friends' houses going like 50 mph |
00:08.13 | autocosm2 | We almost killed ourselves on accident |
00:08.20 | brlcad | both coming and going to boston were late (though departure was always on time) -- but the thing is that I don't really care since I can be productive |
00:08.31 | DTRemenak | yup. trip from portland to sac schedules for 18 hours or so, took me 26. most of the extra just sitting on sidings waiting for freight to pass. |
00:08.40 | brlcad | I lose two entire days when flying to cali -- i'd lose no days by train |
00:09.01 | autocosm2 | well, you sit in an airport for hours |
00:09.13 | DTRemenak | heh, screw productive I was playing Alpha Centauri the whole time :) |
00:09.20 | brlcad | hehe, taht works too |
00:09.30 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, so you may or may not be here for the weekend? |
00:09.32 | autocosm2 | I was pplaying Need for Speed Underground |
00:09.54 | autocosm2 | !weather 03801 |
00:09.56 | TheLastSpartan | autocosm2: The current temperature in Portsmouth, New Hampshire (03801) is 70°F (7:55 PM EDT on July 22, 2005). Conditions: Heavy Thunderstorm Rain Hail Mist. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 68°F. Pressure: 29.89 in (1012 hPa). Visibility: 0.8 miles (1.2 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 16 |
00:10.08 | JeffM2501 | autocosm2, please do that in a /msg to the bot |
00:10.23 | autocosm2 | oh somebody tells me |
00:10.25 | brlcad | JeffM2501: there's only about a 5% that I'll be taking the train this late (I'd have to leave tues/wed) |
00:10.26 | autocosm2 | thanks] |
00:10.35 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
00:10.51 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, what kinda place would you want to have a shindig at? |
00:11.08 | autocosm2 | shindig? |
00:11.10 | brlcad | is remmy of age? |
00:11.14 | DTRemenak | nope :( |
00:11.17 | brlcad | ahh |
00:11.21 | JeffM2501 | purpie is |
00:11.26 | brlcad | yep |
00:11.40 | DTRemenak | guess I'm the last one |
00:11.41 | autocosm2 | right..... |
00:11.45 | brlcad | and scanline will/would be maybe too |
00:11.49 | JeffM2501 | I know of places where we could go and get drinks and he could still be in tehre for dinner |
00:11.59 | JeffM2501 | yeah scanline may comedown if it's weekend |
00:12.02 | brlcad | DTRemenak: that just makes you the designated monkey |
00:12.03 | JeffM2501 | he'll have a long drive |
00:12.03 | autocosm2 | what's going on? Some kind of conference? |
00:12.08 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
00:12.45 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, I am thinking of the universal citywalk, a number of resturants and stuff, it's a cool place if you've never been, and it's in the middle |
00:12.54 | brlcad | JeffM2501: I'm not planning on getting a car this year, so someplace that we can cab to would be good (unless scanline cruises us) |
00:12.56 | JeffM2501 | about 20 min maybe from the convention center |
00:12.59 | JeffM2501 | ohh |
00:13.01 | JeffM2501 | cab |
00:13.01 | autocosm2 | Wait DTR? Aren't you like 15 or something? |
00:13.02 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
00:13.10 | brlcad | 20 min aint too bad |
00:13.12 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, I could come get you guys |
00:13.13 | DTRemenak | autocosm2: not any more |
00:13.16 | autocosm2 | ?confused? |
00:13.21 | brlcad | that would work too |
00:13.37 | brlcad | autocosm2: he is "like 15" but only at heart |
00:13.37 | JeffM2501 | also sporty would have to pass you to get to universal |
00:13.41 | JeffM2501 | she could pick you up as well |
00:13.48 | autocosm2 | *severly confused* |
00:14.01 | JeffM2501 | autocosm2, it is not required that you understand all things |
00:14.05 | brlcad | yeah, I'm easy -- don't matter how we get around to me |
00:14.06 | autocosm2 | i know |
00:14.26 | brlcad | 20 min cab ride is not really a problem either, longer maybe would be |
00:14.28 | JeffM2501 | around the center I don't know much |
00:14.42 | autocosm2 | hey brad2901 are you still here? |
00:14.43 | JeffM2501 | I'd rather not make the long treck out to redondo beach again |
00:14.52 | brlcad | fair enough |
00:14.56 | brad2901 | autocosm2, yes |
00:15.02 | JeffM2501 | I can if need be tho |
00:15.03 | brlcad | so north it is ;) |
00:15.12 | autocosm2 | have u checked your messages on your website? |
00:15.17 | brad2901 | yes |
00:15.22 | autocosm2 | brb |
00:15.48 | brlcad | but probably not kosher to the crowd :) |
00:16.00 | DTRemenak | heh |
00:16.02 | autocosm2 | thanks |
00:16.16 | JeffM2501 | and parking is usualy a bear |
00:16.23 | brlcad | yeah |
00:16.41 | brlcad | I'm up for anything, especially if there's scenery or good food/drinks ;) |
00:16.55 | JeffM2501 | it's right next to universal studios |
00:16.59 | JeffM2501 | many shops |
00:17.06 | JeffM2501 | many resturants |
00:17.09 | autocosm2 | Univeral? |
00:17.15 | autocosm2 | Going to Florida? |
00:17.21 | JeffM2501 | no |
00:17.25 | autocosm2 | dang |
00:17.30 | JeffM2501 | THE universal studios |
00:17.34 | JeffM2501 | the origonal one |
00:17.36 | autocosm2 | Hollywood? |
00:18.32 | autocosm2 | ? |
00:18.45 | purple_cow | JeffM2501 / brlcad: scanline is legal |
00:18.51 | JeffM2501 | wh000t |
00:19.56 | autocosm2 | sounds like a vacation or conference and before or after whatever you guys are going to go 'shopping' |
00:20.57 | brlcad | autocosm2: siggraph |
00:21.08 | autocosm2 | what? |
00:21.15 | brlcad | ~google siggraph |
00:21.22 | autocosm2 | okay.... |
00:21.36 | DTRemenak | hm, ibot is a tad slow |
00:21.50 | brlcad | yeah, or googlie is |
00:21.57 | autocosm2 | okay now I get it |
00:21.59 | orchid | autocosm2: its where a group of guys get together and talk about thier dream weddings |
00:22.07 | brlcad | hehe |
00:22.10 | autocosm2 | what's AMI? |
00:22.24 | autocosm2 | what the? |
00:22.31 | autocosm2 | 'dream weddings' |
00:23.11 | autocosm2 | cool George Lucas |
00:23.16 | orchid | yes, brlcad wants swans at his, white swans on the lower lawn |
00:23.39 | JeffM2501 | google says it's 10 miles from the convention center |
00:23.48 | JeffM2501 | http://maps.google.com/maps?spn=0.096564,0.181180&saddr=1201+south+figueroa+street+los+angeles,+ca+90015&daddr=100+Universal+City+PLZ,+Universal+City,+CA+916082%A0(Hollywood+Sports+Grill)&hl=en |
00:24.06 | autocosm2 | lol, the computer stuff is on my dogs birthday, and August 1st is my dad's |
00:24.51 | brlcad | swans would be nice |
00:24.57 | brlcad | and a waterfall of some sort |
00:25.00 | brlcad | doesn't have to be big |
00:25.07 | brlcad | i'm not picky |
00:25.20 | JeffM2501 | and it's 16 miles for DTRemenak |
00:25.37 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, basicly you'd get on the 134 and just go over to the 101 |
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00:26.41 | JeffM2501 | it would be about 50 miles for me |
00:26.58 | autocosm2 | it would be like 4000 miles for me :P |
00:27.14 | JeffM2501 | ummm great |
00:27.20 | autocosm2 | jk |
00:28.12 | kid_red | need some help |
00:28.30 | autocosm2 | with what? |
00:28.30 | DTRemenak | cool |
00:28.30 | kid_red | can't get binoculars to zoom in and out |
00:28.34 | autocosm2 | so? |
00:28.38 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, you've never been to citywalk? |
00:28.45 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: nope |
00:28.52 | JeffM2501 | autocosm2, if you arn't going to help for real, then please shut up |
00:28.58 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, it's a fun place |
00:29.06 | JeffM2501 | gladstones == good fish |
00:29.11 | autocosm2 | I'm BORED! All I can do is watch this stupid storm... |
00:29.22 | JeffM2501 | autocosm2, and that is not our problem |
00:29.39 | kid_red | any suggestions? |
00:29.46 | JeffM2501 | kid_red, have you checked your key bindings to make sure you have them set right? |
00:30.14 | kid_red | bind B down "toggle displayBinoculars" |
00:30.15 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, there is even a sushi resrturant named after your old settop box :) |
00:30.26 | kid_red | is that right? |
00:30.37 | JeffM2501 | that displays them, there should be keys for zoom in and zoom out |
00:30.58 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: heh, that's a lot more likely than named after the new one ;) |
00:31.04 | autocosm2 | Blue collar tv show is on... |
00:31.07 | JeffM2501 | what's the new one? |
00:31.23 | kid_red | any way to set "B" as zoom in AND zoom out? |
00:31.40 | JeffM2501 | kid_red, you can't set the same key for zoom in AND zoom out |
00:31.43 | JeffM2501 | that would make no sense |
00:31.47 | brlcad | autocosm2: you could try playing with a long metal pole outside ;) |
00:31.47 | JeffM2501 | how would it know what way to go? |
00:31.48 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: huh? toggle displayBinoculars should switch between zoomed in and out. only two settings you know, this isn't quake |
00:31.56 | autocosm2 | okay |
00:31.57 | JeffM2501 | oh |
00:31.59 | JeffM2501 | my bad |
00:32.01 | autocosm2 | nothing better to do |
00:32.07 | JeffM2501 | it's radar zoom that can be smooth |
00:32.11 | DTRemenak | yeah |
00:32.18 | JeffM2501 | I get confused sometimes :( |
00:32.23 | DTRemenak | kid_red: so what happens/doesn't happen when you hit "b"? |
00:32.26 | kid_red | im confused all of the time |
00:32.32 | kid_red | when i hit B, nothing happens |
00:33.06 | JeffM2501 | hmm there is a 10$ parking hit |
00:33.12 | JeffM2501 | but it's not horible |
00:33.55 | DTRemenak | kid_red: looking at the code, should probably be "viewZoom toggle" actually |
00:34.43 | kid_red | bind B down "viewZoom toggle displayBinoculars" |
00:34.47 | kid_red | is that it? |
00:34.50 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: and you're partly right, anyway...you can set "viewZoom in" and "viewZoom out" |
00:35.09 | JeffM2501 | yay for consistent code! |
00:35.10 | DTRemenak | nope, just "viewZoom toggle"...no "displayBinoculars" at all |
00:35.20 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: :) |
00:35.37 | kid_red | gotcha.... thanks.... i'll go try it now |
00:36.02 | JeffM2501 | Buca di Beppo's would be good for large table dining and talking |
00:36.19 | JeffM2501 | Hard Rock Café would be good for the drinking |
00:36.31 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: probably someone changed it and didn't bump the config-file version and add a translator |
00:36.37 | JeffM2501 | heh |
00:37.24 | kid_red | works now... thanks a million |
00:37.41 | brlcad | we accept visa and mastercard |
00:37.55 | kid_red | and id gladly pay if i wasnt broke as hell |
00:38.12 | kid_red | thanks again |
00:38.15 | brlcad | :) |
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00:38.52 | DTRemenak | kid_red: no problem |
00:38.52 | JeffM2501 | I would think hell would have fat pocketbooks |
00:40.38 | DTRemenak | heh, yeah looks like Tupone changed it in 1.11.14 or so, and it never got added to the config-updater. |
00:41.44 | JeffM2501 | the scad |
00:41.50 | SportChick | !weather 90277 |
00:41.55 | TheLastSpartan | SportChick: The current temperature in Redondo Beach, California (90277) is 81°F (4:47 PM PDT on July 22, 2005). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 64°F. Wind: WNW at 14 mph (22 km/h). Pressure: 29.82 in (1010 hPa). Visibility: 20.0 miles (32.2 kilometers). UV: 4 out of 16 |
00:42.06 | SportChick | wow |
00:42.17 | brlcad | SportChick: you up for the place jeff mentioned? |
00:42.33 | SportChick | brlcad: i just got here - did I miss something? |
00:42.39 | JeffM2501 | she'd have to drive about as far as I would |
00:42.41 | brlcad | you missed lots |
00:42.42 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, citywalk |
00:42.49 | SportChick | JeffM2501: what day? |
00:42.49 | JeffM2501 | it's kinda centeral |
00:42.51 | JeffM2501 | and fun |
00:42.56 | brlcad | saturday |
00:43.25 | SportChick | k - it'll be pretty busy on a saturday, but as long as we're in town, we should be good for it |
00:43.28 | brlcad | presumably saturday evening |
00:43.29 | SportChick | what's the date? |
00:43.39 | brlcad | 30th |
00:43.48 | SportChick | july or august? |
00:43.55 | brlcad | heh, july |
00:44.00 | SportChick | oh |
00:44.02 | SportChick | hrm |
00:44.07 | brlcad | i.e. 8 days |
00:44.07 | zoly | lemme guess: SportChick, you're a windows user ? |
00:44.21 | SportChick | Let me talk to kirk - we are just getting back from berkeley right before that |
00:44.30 | SportChick | zoly - why do you ask/ |
00:44.40 | zoly | to confirm a theory |
00:44.58 | JeffM2501 | that 97% of all Mp3 players are iPods? |
00:45.08 | JeffM2501 | regardless of end user OS |
00:45.18 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, there is a sushi place there |
00:45.20 | SportChick | ah, yes, I'm windows. hubby has both windows and os |
00:45.22 | JeffM2501 | as well as other places |
00:45.31 | zoly | thanks |
00:45.32 | SportChick | but of course, we're all about the sushi! :) |
00:45.43 | SportChick | osX that is |
00:45.46 | JeffM2501 | there is a gladstones too |
00:46.03 | SportChick | gladstones?! yummy clam chowder there |
00:46.04 | brlcad | eek |
00:46.06 | SportChick | wow |
00:46.08 | SportChick | bummer |
00:46.14 | brlcad | hmm.. chowda |
00:46.15 | JeffM2501 | probalby just go get another one |
00:46.19 | JeffM2501 | they are cheap |
00:46.35 | zoly | too late to ask autocosm2, but i think he was on windows as well. |
00:46.48 | SportChick | we got a 40 gig for $203 |
00:46.49 | brlcad | after a week up in boston, I would have a lil trouble believing any place else could live up to the taste I've put up on a pedestal ;) |
00:46.52 | SportChick | (new) |
00:47.01 | JeffM2501 | heh |
00:47.09 | zoly | hehe |
00:47.17 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, it would only cost 129 to replace mine |
00:47.21 | SportChick | cool |
00:47.25 | SportChick | why's that? insurance? |
00:47.34 | JeffM2501 | no thats just how much they cost |
00:47.38 | SportChick | what size? |
00:47.42 | JeffM2501 | 1 gig |
00:47.44 | SportChick | oh |
00:47.45 | SportChick | too small |
00:47.55 | JeffM2501 | not for me |
00:47.57 | JeffM2501 | I don't put my entire library on it |
00:48.02 | JeffM2501 | just the music for today |
00:48.04 | SportChick | I need at 80 gig - all our music won't fit on my 40 |
00:48.13 | JeffM2501 | that is why you have a "computer" :) |
00:48.18 | zoly | JeffM2501: thanks for telling me. |
00:48.24 | SportChick | hehe, all our music won't fit on MY computer |
00:48.30 | JeffM2501 | telling you zoly? |
00:48.33 | SportChick | we have to put it on hubby's |
00:48.38 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, get a new drive :) |
00:48.49 | zoly | JeffM2501: you just told me "-JeffM2501- VERSION xchat 2.0.8b Windows 5.1 [i686/2.16GHz]" |
00:48.52 | JeffM2501 | I also prefer the flash drive, and not having to deal with a cable |
00:48.56 | JeffM2501 | zoly, it's automated |
00:49.05 | SportChick | jeff - this IS a new drive - it's just a lappy - so only 80 gig - that would leave me no room for my computer programs! |
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00:49.18 | zoly | if you CTCP VER me, your client tells me your version. |
00:49.19 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, get a 120 |
00:49.30 | JeffM2501 | zoly, ok |
00:49.59 | JeffM2501 | my library woudln't even fit on an 80 |
00:50.03 | JeffM2501 | so I deal with the gig |
00:50.06 | zoly | is a bit the wrong way around, but i find it quite funny |
00:50.08 | JeffM2501 | and they are a lot msaller |
00:50.13 | JeffM2501 | zoly, whatever |
00:50.14 | zoly | "-brlcad- VERSION irssi v0.8.9 - running on FreeBSD i386" |
00:50.21 | SportChick | true - /me is happy with her 40 gig for $203 tho |
00:50.27 | JeffM2501 | costco? |
00:50.57 | SportChick | nope - was a display unit at ?? best buy or office max or something. We got it and it didn't work so sent it in for warranty and they just shipped us a brand new one |
00:51.07 | JeffM2501 | ahh nice |
00:51.33 | SportChick | yup |
00:51.34 | orchid | zoly: but yours blocks ctcp? |
00:51.37 | zoly | no |
00:51.44 | zoly | it just returns the request |
00:52.09 | orchid | I dont see your version |
00:52.25 | JeffM2501 | orchid, he just bounces the request back, so your client sends him yours |
00:52.34 | zoly | right, because i see yours |
00:52.37 | brlcad | zoly just thinks he's being clever by not following the spec -- nothing to see here, move along |
00:52.41 | JeffM2501 | whopty do |
00:52.42 | orchid | no you dont |
00:52.42 | zoly | but is dangerous if you do the same |
00:52.53 | zoly | endless loop of bounces... |
00:53.03 | JeffM2501 | zoly, and your point is? |
00:53.36 | zoly | having ppls clients tell me what ppl want to know about mine. |
00:53.56 | JeffM2501 | and the point of that is? |
00:54.20 | zoly | being interested in wanting to know what ppl want to know of me. |
00:54.26 | brlcad | sounds pretty dumb, and defeats the purpose of the request |
00:54.45 | JeffM2501 | yeah specialy when they start filtering logins based on it |
00:54.55 | JeffM2501 | you notice freenode versions you :) |
00:55.02 | zoly | i do |
00:55.03 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/Dev-C++/ (bzflag.dev bzfs.dev): fix curl lbraries |
00:55.17 | JeffM2501 | what kinda lame person would feel the need to hide there version? |
00:55.23 | orchid | we should fine zoly $50 for not conforming |
00:55.31 | JeffM2501 | or just kick |
00:56.01 | brlcad | see if he can get that kick to turn around on the kicker |
00:56.12 | JeffM2501 | that would be a feat |
00:56.19 | orchid | that would be l33t |
00:56.26 | JeffM2501 | uber l33t |
00:56.48 | brlcad | indeed, anyone can break a spec that presumes cooperation |
00:56.51 | JeffM2501 | I guess making up "theorys" on OSs and iPod users is more fun |
00:57.32 | brlcad | coming from our favorite german isp even |
00:57.52 | JeffM2501 | gotta love it |
00:58.06 | JeffM2501 | at least it's not that onion thing |
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01:05.13 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/api_notes: remove that what has been done. |
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01:08.37 | autocosm2 | hello? |
01:08.45 | autocosm2 | hey Jeff i'm back |
01:09.16 | autocosm2 | all the lightnings gone but i still made a makeshift tower |
01:09.40 | autocosm2 | !weather 03801 |
01:09.43 | TheLastSpartan | autocosm2: The current temperature in Portsmouth, New Hampshire (03801) is 68°F (8:55 PM EDT on July 22, 2005). Conditions: Light Thunderstorm Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 66°F. Pressure: 29.87 in (1011 hPa). Visibility: 7.0 miles (11.3 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 16 |
01:10.12 | autocosm2 | there's no way it can still be here... |
01:10.17 | DTRemenak | autocosm2: and you think we care now why? |
01:10.23 | autocosm2 | Who knows |
01:10.37 | DTRemenak | what channel is this? |
01:10.39 | autocosm2 | well, Jeff did tell me to go outside and find a metal rod |
01:13.12 | brlcad | he didn't |
01:13.14 | brlcad | I did |
01:13.21 | autocosm2 | whatever |
01:13.33 | autocosm2 | i still did it, but it was too late |
01:13.42 | brlcad | better luck next time |
01:13.46 | autocosm2 | :) |
01:14.13 | orange | don't taunt the stodgy old men on a Friday night |
01:14.22 | autocosm2 | what? |
01:14.26 | orange | nothing |
01:15.46 | autocosm2 | DTR isn't that old, not sure about brlcad |
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01:17.33 | callofhonor | hoo hah |
01:18.14 | JeffM2501 | I told you no such thing |
01:18.24 | callofhonor | huh? |
01:18.28 | callofhonor | lightning rod? |
01:18.41 | callofhonor | i thought it was you, oh well |
01:19.55 | JeffM2501 | sure ya did skip |
01:20.09 | callofhonor | what? |
01:20.54 | callofhonor | i'm tired, it's late, bye |
01:26.32 | Nidhoggr | oof. heat here is gunna kill me. |
01:26.43 | JeffM2501 | how bad? |
01:27.14 | Nidhoggr | 110 today |
01:27.18 | Nidhoggr | and a bit humid |
01:27.30 | JeffM2501 | that's decently warm |
01:27.46 | Nidhoggr | it's been over 12 days of 110 and over |
01:27.58 | Nidhoggr | and it hasn't been dropping below 90 at night. |
01:28.24 | DTRemenak | isn't it supposed to get cold at night over there? |
01:28.29 | Nidhoggr | nope |
01:28.42 | JeffM2501 | the ground there retains all the head |
01:28.44 | JeffM2501 | heat |
01:28.54 | DTRemenak | dang |
01:29.19 | Nidhoggr | over 20 deaths related to the heat. at least a dozen homeless ppl. |
01:30.30 | Nidhoggr | see ya |
01:30.49 | menotume | Nidhoggr: where are you, the Saraha ? |
01:30.56 | Nidhoggr | phoenix, arizona |
01:31.00 | menotume | ahhh |
01:31.19 | menotume | close enough :) |
01:31.34 | Nidhoggr | definitely |
01:32.55 | Nidhoggr | just trying to stay hydrated. |
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01:35.22 | menotume | ~weather kdvt |
01:35.51 | orchid | ~x es en se pregunta que esta haciendo la preciosa |
01:36.20 | menotume | ow, at 8:30 pm |
01:36.28 | WonderMop | eeek |
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02:00.47 | shorty114 | ~spell relevence |
02:01.47 | Aribeth | !weather 30040 |
02:01.50 | TheLastSpartan | Aribeth: The current temperature in Cumming, Georgia (30040) is 81°F (10:00 PM EDT on July 22, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 72°F. UV: 0 out of 16 |
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02:03.06 | zoly | Aribeth, are you running windows, by any chance ? |
02:04.14 | Aribeth | nope |
02:04.25 | zoly | oh |
02:04.31 | zoly | thanks :) |
02:04.44 | Aribeth | only unix here |
02:04.48 | Aribeth | :) |
02:05.24 | zoly | no weather plugin for those ? |
02:06.01 | Aribeth | www.weatherunderground.com is a good site |
02:06.05 | shorty114 | !weather 98020 |
02:06.08 | TheLastSpartan | shorty114: The current temperature in Edmonds, Washington (98020) is 70°F (6:53 PM PDT on July 22, 2005). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 54°F. Pressure: 30.13 in (1020 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 1 out of 16 |
02:08.15 | zoly | !forget weather |
02:08.16 | TheLastSpartan | zoly: I'm sorry, I was listening to Fatboy Slim. |
02:08.34 | Aribeth | heh |
02:08.43 | creeperz | TheLastSpartan: you would :-P |
02:08.44 | TheLastSpartan | creeperz: Buy me dinner first. |
02:08.50 | creeperz | >.< |
02:10.51 | zoly | TheLastSpartan: weather is The state of the air or atmosphere with respect to heat or cold, wetness or dryness, calm or storm, clearness or cloudiness. |
02:11.55 | zoly | ~snotback |
02:12.35 | zoly | !snatbock |
02:12.36 | TheLastSpartan | zoly: Guu des whakaremasen! |
02:12.51 | zoly | !batsnock |
02:12.52 | TheLastSpartan | zoly: are you 12? |
02:13.10 | JeffM2501 | use /msg if you want to just taunt the bot |
02:13.16 | zoly | tried |
02:13.21 | brlcad | try harder |
02:13.29 | zoly | <TheLastSpartan> Error: Command must be sent in a channel. |
02:13.42 | JeffM2501 | then you lack the required amount of fung shue |
02:13.56 | JeffM2501 | zoly, are you running windows by any chance? |
02:14.07 | zoly | no, i don't |
02:14.19 | JeffM2501 | then it all makes sense |
02:15.03 | Aribeth | hi noodle |
02:15.07 | Aribeth | :) |
02:15.27 | noodle | hi :) |
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03:40.04 | BIYA | Are you busy jeff? |
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03:42.06 | RPG_ | hey |
03:42.11 | RPG_ | is there any secretplace admins here? |
03:42.33 | BIYA | hmm why? |
03:42.38 | RPG_ | we got a teamkiller |
03:42.44 | RPG_ | and people don't know how to type "/vote yes" |
03:42.45 | BIYA | heh |
03:42.52 | RPG_ | anyways, gotta get back to my game! |
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04:49.32 | koalabear | hiya all |
04:49.42 | koalabear | what a map! on DTRemenak server |
04:49.59 | koalabear | the test server |
04:50.13 | koalabear | geeze talk about detail complex |
04:52.27 | koalabear | kinda reminds me of total recall |
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04:55.48 | Dodge_This | anyone ever get bxflag to compile on kernel 2.6 (Fedora core 3)? The make errors with "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lidn" |
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05:23.44 | SportChick | JeffM2501 and fuzzy: shoot me an email with the details of next week. I think we're gonna try and join y'all |
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06:50.55 | ruskie | ~bzfquery viper.dtdm.org:5158 |
06:51.04 | ruskie | zupd |
06:51.10 | ruskie | ~bzfquery viper.pimpi.org:5158 |
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07:37.09 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: new tracking control style for observers |
07:39.26 | trepan | ack, found a segv to kill |
07:45.07 | Aribeth | ack |
07:45.37 | Aribeth | im in aw of mikeeusa's programming skills....not :P |
07:45.59 | trepan | huh? |
07:46.10 | Aribeth | i found his bzflag hacks |
07:46.16 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: fix a couple of segv |
07:47.25 | Aribeth | his so called fork of bzflag |
07:48.22 | purple_cow | link? :) |
07:48.59 | Aribeth | his web site. i can email the *.cxx files |
07:49.55 | Aribeth | i closed my browser because of his cert |
07:51.45 | Aribeth | https://cat2.dynu.ca/cat2/bztournament.tar.gz |
07:57.28 | Aribeth | motd.cxx is mostly stubs in his version |
08:04.09 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: another touchup |
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08:10.43 | purple_cow | oh no! he removed the athoriarian BS! |
08:11.26 | Aribeth | heh |
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08:55.07 | koalabear | hiyas |
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10:59.38 | autocosm1 | silence..... |
11:00.04 | autocosm1 | !weather 04043 |
11:00.06 | TheLastSpartan | autocosm1: The current temperature in Kennebunk, Maine (04043) is 64°F (6:55 AM EDT on July 23, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 61°F. Pressure: 29.93 in (1013 hPa). Visibility: 9.0 miles (14.5 kilometers). UV: 1 out of 16 |
11:00.26 | autocosm1 | !weather 03801 |
11:00.29 | TheLastSpartan | autocosm1: The current temperature in Portsmouth, New Hampshire (03801) is 66°F (6:55 AM EDT on July 23, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 59°F. Pressure: 29.92 in (1013 hPa). Visibility: 20.0 miles (32.2 kilometers). UV: 1 out of 16 |
11:01.26 | autocosm1 | !weather 07890 |
11:01.28 | TheLastSpartan | autocosm1: The current temperature in Branchville, New Jersey (07890) is 67°F (6:53 AM EDT on July 23, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 65°F. Pressure: 30.00 in (1016 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 1 out of 16 |
11:01.56 | autocosm1 | !weather 90210 |
11:01.58 | TheLastSpartan | autocosm1: The current temperature in Beverly Hills, California (90210) is 68°F (3:51 AM PDT on July 23, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 62°F. Pressure: 29.90 in (1012 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 16 |
11:02.46 | autocosm1 | !weather 45890 |
11:02.48 | TheLastSpartan | autocosm1: The current temperature in Vanlue, Ohio (45890) is 62°F (6:53 AM EDT on July 23, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 62°F. UV: 0 out of 16 |
11:03.10 | ruskie | this is annoying |
11:03.10 | purple_cow | autocosm1: please use /msg if you want to talk with the bots a lot :P |
11:03.24 | autocosm1 | i can't! i've tried |
11:03.29 | purple_cow | try harder |
11:03.58 | autocosm1 | doesn't work' |
11:04.12 | purple_cow | what do you mean? |
11:04.14 | purple_cow | works fine for me |
11:04.30 | autocosm1 | i typed: /msg !weather ***** |
11:04.38 | purple_cow | don't use ! |
11:04.59 | autocosm1 | the *'s means numbers |
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11:05.20 | autocosm1 | hello? |
11:05.36 | purple_cow | read what i said :P |
11:06.12 | autocosm1 | nope still doesn't |
11:06.40 | purple_cow | oh, right. you also need to give it a nickname :P |
11:07.17 | purple_cow | despite all that, there's absolutely no reason for you to ask for the weather in places that you aren't located :P |
11:07.21 | purple_cow | it just annoys people here |
11:08.30 | autocosm1 | well i am in portsmouth right now and my friends and my mom live in maine |
11:19.46 | purple_cow | i don't think he gets it |
11:21.46 | Grumbler | little early in the morning for colored cows isnt it |
11:26.58 | purple_cow | yeah :P |
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11:29.04 | BIYA | Does anyone know where the Flag list is. I need some flag ID's. Current flags though not the idea list. |
11:30.19 | Grumbler | arent they listed in the wiki .... |
11:34.07 | Grumbler | bummer guess not |
11:34.14 | Grumbler | must be in the man page though |
11:34.45 | trepan | src/common/Flag.cxx |
11:35.28 | trepan | 'bzfs -help' will also list them |
11:39.00 | Grumbler | hmm, not in the man page |
11:39.08 | Grumbler | maybe they should be? |
11:40.15 | trepan | there online help in the game that lists them... |
11:40.23 | trepan | s/there/there's/ |
11:43.00 | Grumbler | "online" you mean bzflag.org, or do you mean the client |
11:43.25 | trepan | in-game |
11:44.02 | Grumbler | yeah, i guess i could have guessed it from that |
11:44.39 | trepan | maybe, "for a list of flags, see..." |
11:45.09 | trepan | otherwise, it'll just be another spot that will be overlooked during changes |
11:45.55 | trepan | (unless you want to setup some sort of autogen sourcing from Flag.cxx) |
11:53.38 | Grumbler | sure part of the make |
11:54.13 | trepan | whip it up |
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12:54.34 | _Manu_ | hi fuzzy... k :) |
12:55.27 | brlcad | howdy :) |
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14:07.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: avoids some flipping, looks a little better |
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14:39.30 | zoly | hmm. would any of you call a server line "low lag - no Brooks" on a pillbox server offensive ? |
14:49.34 | orchid | I dont know what no brooks means |
14:50.46 | zoly | brooks is a high-lag low-tolerance admin on kniga |
14:51.25 | zoly | team6 |
14:51.47 | brlcad | why would that be offensive? |
14:52.10 | brlcad | I don't particularly find it offensive, brooks might |
14:52.17 | zoly | because it singles a person out, by naming him. |
14:52.56 | brlcad | server ops can do that if they want |
14:53.07 | zoly | hmm |
14:53.36 | zoly | within certain limits, i suppose |
14:53.47 | brlcad | not really |
14:53.53 | brlcad | it's their server |
14:53.53 | zoly | (not that i think naming brook is outside of those) |
14:54.25 | brlcad | the only thing that matters from a larger perspective is what affects the network publicly (i.e. their public message) |
14:54.45 | brlcad | otherwise ops pretty much maintain authoritative control |
14:54.55 | zoly | ah. i misstated. public message is the one appearing in the server list ? |
14:55.02 | brlcad | if people don't like that, they should perhaps let that operator know, and play elsewhere |
14:55.53 | zoly | what i called "server line" would actually be the "public message" |
14:58.33 | zoly | i'd think too it would be ok. it is not sexist, racist, and definitely within legal boundaries. |
14:58.58 | brlcad | pretty much |
14:59.26 | zoly | ok. thank you for your opinion on this matter, |
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15:23.48 | zoly | hi brad2901` |
15:23.58 | brad2901` | Hey zoly |
15:24.02 | zoly | may i pm you ? |
15:24.18 | brad2901` | sure |
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15:36.42 | bz1123 | can anyone help me with textures on bzflag2.0.2 on MacOS? |
15:38.40 | blast007 | what is the issue you are experiencing? |
15:50.07 | trepan | ~blast007++ worthy effort |
15:50.30 | blast007 | hehe :) |
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16:19.37 | RPG_ | is anyone else having CVS trouble right now? |
16:25.15 | blast007 | anon CVS is down, afaik |
16:25.28 | RPG_ | i think i had trouble yesterday too though |
16:25.32 | RPG_ | mmh |
16:25.43 | blast007 | the sf.net status page should say |
16:26.25 | blast007 | "As of 2005-07-27 anonymous access to CVS for projects starting with l, s, f, b, r, k is currently offline." |
16:26.36 | RPG_ | lol |
16:26.54 | RPG_ | i can't find that though |
16:27.53 | blast007 | on their home page, on the left bar, is "Site Status" |
16:28.01 | RPG_ | aah now i see it |
16:28.28 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
16:28.32 | RPG_ | it's the 23rd |
16:28.54 | blast007 | oh, hmm |
16:28.59 | blast007 | wonder if that's a typo |
16:29.06 | RPG_ | probably |
16:35.36 | RPG_ | are you still here? |
16:35.58 | blast007 | yup |
16:36.33 | RPG_ | were you with us yesterday when JeffM said to use the function BZF_API bz_getTeamScore(1); |
16:37.32 | RPG_ | because something's not working right |
16:38.03 | blast007 | yup, I was here at that time |
16:38.17 | RPG_ | because it says |
16:38.17 | RPG_ | 2645 G:\Programs\Dev-Cpp\repisitories\bzflag\src\bzfs\commands.cxx expected primary-expression before "__attribute__" |
16:38.29 | RPG_ | then |
16:38.36 | RPG_ | 2645 G:\Programs\Dev-Cpp\repisitories\bzflag\src\bzfs\commands.cxx expected `,' or `;' before "__attribute__" |
16:38.48 | RPG_ | and here's my line |
16:38.53 | RPG_ | RedTeaminfo = BZF_API bz_getTeamWins(RedTeam); |
16:39.20 | blast007 | k, let me check how that works |
16:39.29 | RPG_ | thx |
16:41.59 | blast007 | try: RedTeaminfo = bz_getTeamWins(RedTeam); |
16:42.37 | RPG_ | it comiled |
16:42.41 | RPG_ | now time for the test |
16:44.45 | RPG_ | seems to work right |
16:44.54 | RPG_ | 1 more test |
16:45.46 | RPG_ | Blue Team: |
16:45.46 | RPG_ | Score: -1 |
16:45.46 | RPG_ | Wins: 0 |
16:45.46 | RPG_ | Losses: 1 |
16:45.53 | RPG_ | awesom |
16:46.16 | RPG_ | now, is there a possible way to reset the team scores from commands.cxx ? |
16:49.55 | RPG_ | the boss wants the scores to be reset ;) |
16:52.30 | blast007 | look down in handleCountdownCmd and find this: // reset team scores |
16:52.33 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, I made a API function that does it |
16:52.37 | JeffM2501 | just use that |
16:52.42 | JeffM2501 | bz_resetTeamScore |
16:52.45 | blast007 | ah |
16:52.51 | RPG_ | does it take any parameters? |
16:52.57 | JeffM2501 | team |
16:52.57 | RPG_ | well... duh... |
16:52.59 | JeffM2501 | read the header |
16:57.03 | RPG_ | is there function that lets you HTTP POST ? |
16:59.00 | JeffM2501 | there is now |
16:59.05 | JeffM2501 | http jobs |
16:59.36 | RPG_ | and do you have an API function that can move players from one team to another? |
16:59.48 | JeffM2501 | no |
16:59.58 | JeffM2501 | I don't think the game supports that |
17:00.00 | blast007 | that's not even possible |
17:00.02 | blast007 | yeah |
17:00.04 | RPG_ | ok |
17:00.15 | JeffM2501 | you can prevent them from spawning |
17:00.17 | RPG_ | i was gonna have all the playerse on teams get bumped to observer |
17:00.19 | RPG_ | you can? |
17:00.22 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
17:00.26 | RPG_ | because that was my next questoin :P |
17:00.30 | JeffM2501 | there is an "allow spawn event" |
17:00.48 | RPG_ | but i'm calling all these functions from commands.cxx |
17:00.52 | JeffM2501 | yesterday I did everything you should need to do your thing in the API |
17:00.58 | RPG_ | thanks |
17:00.58 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, so |
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17:01.14 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, you should use the custom / command API for your command |
17:01.16 | a_monkey | http://rafb.net/paste/results/o7VJyk33.html |
17:01.23 | a_monkey | does this mean i don't get bzfs? |
17:01.43 | JeffM2501 | you allways get bzfs |
17:01.49 | a_monkey | i see |
17:02.18 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, you should do it like a plugin, just do it in the main exe, not in the dll, that way it's modular |
17:02.32 | RPG_ | that's what I was going for |
17:02.39 | RPG_ | I want it to be one single chunk of code |
17:02.43 | JeffM2501 | not if you are in commands.cxx |
17:02.46 | RPG_ | so i only have to copy and paste one chunk |
17:02.55 | RPG_ | huh? |
17:03.00 | RPG_ | it already is in one chunk |
17:03.08 | JeffM2501 | how did you add your /command? |
17:03.20 | RPG_ | } else if (strncasecmp(message + 1, "reportmatch", 11) == 0) { |
17:03.26 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's lame |
17:03.37 | JeffM2501 | use the registerCustomSlashCommand |
17:03.48 | JeffM2501 | then you can put it all in your own file |
17:04.10 | RPG_ | but then do I have to do anything special to have BZ compile my extra file? |
17:04.28 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
17:04.31 | JeffM2501 | but it's not hard |
17:04.37 | RPG_ | alrighty |
17:04.43 | JeffM2501 | your on devc++? |
17:04.46 | RPG_ | yes |
17:04.49 | JeffM2501 | the toy compiler |
17:04.55 | JeffM2501 | just add it to the bzfs project |
17:05.23 | RPG_ | do i need a header file for it? |
17:05.35 | JeffM2501 | only if you need to expose things to other files |
17:05.38 | JeffM2501 | so I don't think so |
17:05.44 | JeffM2501 | you do know c++ right? |
17:06.09 | RPG_ | i know PHP, and i'm using my knowledge on that to help me get by |
17:06.12 | RPG_ | i understand the basics |
17:06.52 | JeffM2501 | ph |
17:06.54 | JeffM2501 | oh |
17:06.57 | JeffM2501 | wow |
17:07.16 | JeffM2501 | you may want to learn a bit about the language first :) |
17:07.28 | RPG_ | i read a help tutorial |
17:07.35 | RPG_ | but i don't think that did much |
17:08.03 | JeffM2501 | welll that could be a problem |
17:08.34 | RPG_ | the mofo league needed a bzfs plugin to handle matches, and since i was the only person in the league that remotely knew anythign about C++, i was given the job |
17:09.03 | JeffM2501 | why didn't they ask for help? |
17:09.13 | JeffM2501 | I know meno is going to be working on one after he moves |
17:09.23 | RPG_ | on one of our problems? |
17:09.39 | JeffM2501 | help in making a plugin, in general |
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17:09.48 | RPG_ | and i guess they nominated me to ask for help :0 |
17:09.51 | JeffM2501 | it's not like you all are locked away in your own room |
17:09.58 | JeffM2501 | you are part of the comunity |
17:11.39 | RPG_ | plus i think i just learned a ton about C++ by working on this |
17:11.55 | JeffM2501 | well that's good |
17:12.01 | JeffM2501 | I'd get a real compiler tho |
17:12.16 | RPG_ | would that be visual studio? |
17:12.22 | JeffM2501 | or gcc |
17:12.26 | RPG_ | cause i'm on window |
17:12.27 | RPG_ | s |
17:12.46 | RPG_ | i tried switcing over to linux, but none of the programs i was familiar with worked there |
17:13.14 | blast007 | you wouldn't have to 'switch', just dual boot ;) |
17:13.22 | RPG_ | i do |
17:13.28 | RPG_ | actually, i have tripie-boot |
17:13.31 | RPG_ | except i can't boot to linux |
17:13.38 | RPG_ | i made the mistake of installing windows second |
17:13.44 | JeffM2501 | there are gcc implementations on windows |
17:13.44 | blast007 | ah :) |
17:13.46 | JeffM2501 | mingw |
17:14.01 | RPG_ | but i like the dev-cpp function browser |
17:14.05 | JeffM2501 | visual studio is by far the easyest in my opinion |
17:14.11 | JeffM2501 | devc++ is a toy |
17:14.19 | JeffM2501 | it has some stuff vc has like that browser |
17:14.19 | RPG_ | i might look into the student and teacher edition of VS |
17:14.24 | JeffM2501 | but as a compiler it sucks |
17:14.36 | JeffM2501 | there is probably still a free version of .net 2005 beta |
17:14.53 | JeffM2501 | vc has a full class browser |
17:15.10 | RPG_ | back to the plugin; registerCustomSlashCommand needs a value called bz_CustomSlashCommandHandler *handler |
17:15.20 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
17:15.23 | JeffM2501 | it's a callback class |
17:15.32 | JeffM2501 | derive your own handler class |
17:15.36 | JeffM2501 | pass a pointer to it in there |
17:15.47 | JeffM2501 | and it'll be called when ever the / command is hit |
17:15.56 | JeffM2501 | and the paramaters will be passed to you |
17:16.04 | RPG_ | k |
17:17.19 | JeffM2501 | http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/visualc/default.aspx |
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17:17.51 | RPG_ | wait... |
17:18.01 | RPG_ | how could microsoft give somethign away for free? |
17:18.10 | JeffM2501 | because they are not stupid |
17:18.19 | JeffM2501 | they want more devs using there stuff |
17:18.24 | JeffM2501 | that means more software for windows |
17:18.30 | RPG_ | crap |
17:18.33 | RPG_ | you need SP2 |
17:18.33 | CBG | RPG_ yo |
17:18.40 | RPG_ | sup |
17:18.50 | RPG_ | i never updated |
17:18.56 | JeffM2501 | so update |
17:18.56 | RPG_ | i heard bad things about SP2 |
17:19.03 | JeffM2501 | it's fine |
17:19.05 | JeffM2501 | now |
17:19.18 | JeffM2501 | it's not like you use IE right? |
17:19.24 | RPG_ | true |
17:19.28 | RPG_ | FF! |
17:19.40 | RPG_ | IE screws up too many people's computers |
17:19.55 | JeffM2501 | umm it's not IE that does that |
17:19.57 | JeffM2501 | you still have IE |
17:19.59 | RPG_ | plus FF has adblock |
17:20.01 | RPG_ | no i have firefox |
17:20.09 | JeffM2501 | IE sp2 has a lot of that stuff |
17:20.13 | RPG_ | oh |
17:20.18 | JeffM2501 | and in ff it's a plugin, just like ie |
17:20.36 | RPG_ | 'cause people I know who don't know what an activeX control is would click yes to all of those things |
17:20.42 | RPG_ | and then i had to fix it all for them |
17:20.54 | JeffM2501 | that is not IE's fualt, that is the stupid humans :) |
17:21.03 | JeffM2501 | FF just makes it harder to click yes |
17:23.15 | RPG_ | this won't work in C++? |
17:23.15 | RPG_ | global match_in_progress = true; |
17:23.23 | RPG_ | it says global does not name a type |
17:23.25 | JeffM2501 | true is not a thing |
17:23.29 | JeffM2501 | it's TRUE |
17:23.36 | JeffM2501 | oh |
17:23.41 | RPG_ | case-sensitive? |
17:23.42 | JeffM2501 | and global is not a thing |
17:23.43 | JeffM2501 | totaly |
17:23.49 | RPG_ | in php it is |
17:23.58 | JeffM2501 | you want bool match_in_progress = TRUE; |
17:24.02 | JeffM2501 | c++ is NOT php |
17:24.10 | JeffM2501 | you have to get that out of your head now |
17:24.14 | JeffM2501 | C is a typed language |
17:24.18 | RPG_ | but i want match_in_progress to be accessed from another class within the file |
17:24.21 | JeffM2501 | not that typeless stuff you get in php |
17:24.32 | JeffM2501 | then put it outside any class def |
17:24.36 | JeffM2501 | you don't have to define your globals |
17:24.43 | JeffM2501 | they are defined by there scope automaticly |
17:24.48 | RPG_ | oh |
17:24.58 | CBG | "typless stuff" ? |
17:25.09 | RPG_ | you don't have to define variables |
17:25.13 | JeffM2501 | in php you don't really define what type a variable is |
17:25.25 | JeffM2501 | it just works it out based on it's scope |
17:25.28 | RPG_ | and you can append an interger to a string and it'l work |
17:25.32 | RPG_ | in PHP |
17:25.38 | JeffM2501 | you can not do that in C |
17:25.44 | RPG_ | i found that out ;) |
17:25.49 | blast007 | hehe |
17:25.59 | JeffM2501 | so you didn't read anything in the basic C tutorial did you? |
17:26.13 | RPG_ | i did |
17:26.28 | RPG_ | it was at howstuffworks.com , so i don't know if it was teh best |
17:26.33 | JeffM2501 | then how did you not pick up basic variable definitions? |
17:26.37 | JeffM2501 | it's like chapter 2 |
17:26.42 | CBG | lol |
17:27.06 | RPG_ | i just forgot you couldn't mix two data types together |
17:27.13 | JeffM2501 | you can |
17:27.18 | JeffM2501 | there just needs to be a cast |
17:27.26 | JeffM2501 | and it as to be an explicid asignment |
17:27.30 | menotume | php = (php)c; |
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17:27.54 | JeffM2501 | reemember you have REAL memory access here |
17:28.07 | RPG_ | k |
17:28.12 | JeffM2501 | none of this garbage cleaning, mamby pamby protected stuff |
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17:35.14 | RPG_ | will bz_registerCustomSlashCommand accept a function pointer instead of a class pinter? |
17:38.57 | JeffM2501 | no |
17:39.15 | JeffM2501 | c++ does no automatic stuff like that |
17:39.18 | JeffM2501 | just use a class |
17:39.48 | JeffM2501 | look at the vocaliser for an example of how it's used |
17:40.07 | CBG | If ya'll have nothing to do, perhaps you can visit www.cannonballguy.com and maybe even reply to my BZFlag post with comments on how truely amazing it is. :) |
17:40.47 | JeffM2501 | not a bad layout |
17:40.50 | JeffM2501 | but kinda bland |
17:40.51 | Tupone | menotesting what ? |
17:41.11 | CBG | JeffM2501: Its not my own... although I do hope I can make my own sometime... :) |
17:41.22 | RPG_ | can this: bz_sendTextMessage(int from, int to, const char* message) send a message to ALL Players? |
17:41.26 | JeffM2501 | ohh it's a generic blog template? |
17:41.40 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, yeah there is a #def for an "everyone" player ID |
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17:41.46 | CBG | JeffM2501: Its a pre-made theme... |
17:41.54 | JeffM2501 | and make the "from" be the server player |
17:42.01 | RPG_ | CBG: this is what happens when you try to make your own layout: http://www.garrettsites.net/ |
17:42.09 | RPG_ | i' m not one with layouts yet |
17:42.26 | CBG | RPG_ I like your layout... and thast not wordpress? |
17:42.40 | RPG_ | it's running on software called phpSiteManager |
17:42.52 | RPG_ | i'm still in the process of developing it |
17:42.56 | CBG | Which is more of a CMS than just a blog |
17:42.59 | CBG | ? |
17:43.10 | RPG_ | well phpSiteManager is a total CMS |
17:43.18 | RPG_ | click on site map |
17:43.38 | RPG_ | its got photo gallery, catagories, search, countdowns, random quotes, stuff like that |
17:43.42 | RPG_ | a guestbook |
17:43.46 | RPG_ | template manager |
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17:44.54 | a_monkey | hmm |
17:45.07 | CBG | Cool. :) |
17:45.08 | a_monkey | how do i add optimization flags with the "make" command again? |
17:45.36 | a_monkey | something like make C++="-O3" |
17:45.41 | sc-phone | hi all |
17:45.44 | a_monkey | but i don't think it's that... |
17:45.59 | Tupone | hi sc-phone |
17:46.24 | CBG | JeffM2501: on my site, under "Author" on the right, is there a "DevDreams" link or just the url: www.devdreams.com/forum ? |
17:46.49 | sc-phone | hiya tupone - at the gym |
17:46.57 | CBG | SportChick? |
17:47.11 | sc-phone | yes? |
17:47.20 | CBG | Wow. What phone are you on? |
17:47.24 | RPG_ | you can IRC on a phone? |
17:47.32 | JeffM2501 | CBG, huh? |
17:47.33 | CBG | RPG_ seems so! |
17:47.43 | blast007 | the phone runs Palm OS |
17:47.44 | sc-phone | treo 650 |
17:47.45 | RPG_ | oh |
17:47.55 | RPG_ | its one of those phones that's more like a computer than a phone |
17:48.02 | blast007 | :) |
17:48.16 | RPG_ | i can update my website from my phone, but thats about al |
17:48.37 | CBG | JeffM2501: Look on my site... There is an Author section on the right. Somehwere in that section should EITHER be a Link "DevDreams" or just the long url which looks like normal text and doesnt act like a link... Can you tell me what you see? |
17:49.26 | a_monkey | was it |
17:49.29 | sc-phone | cbg: it runs bzadmin too |
17:49.34 | CBG | Cooooool :D |
17:49.35 | RPG_ | awesome! |
17:49.37 | a_monkey | make CXXFLAGS="-O3" |
17:49.40 | a_monkey | or what? |
17:50.20 | RPG_ | and it's only $400! |
17:50.28 | CBG | plus the contract.... |
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17:50.38 | RPG_ | EEP! |
17:50.42 | RPG_ | i lost that last message |
17:50.44 | CBG | I wonder if you can get it Pay As You Go? :o |
17:50.49 | RPG_ | lol |
17:50.53 | RPG_ | i doubt that |
17:50.55 | sc-phone | mine was $250 |
17:51.02 | CBG | :o |
17:51.12 | RPG_ | mine was $270 and it's only a flipphone! |
17:51.29 | CBG | lol |
17:51.33 | sc-phone | but it replaced my visor |
17:51.47 | RPG_ | oh |
17:51.55 | RPG_ | what OS do you have on there that runs bzadmin? |
17:52.11 | sc-phone | palm os 5 |
17:52.29 | Tupone | I think she run bzadmin on another machine and get it to the phone |
17:52.30 | blast007 | then SSH to another maching, I'm assuming |
17:52.35 | blast007 | machine* |
17:52.39 | sc-phone | it actually runs ssh client |
17:53.06 | RPG_ | but does it have voice activeated dialing? |
17:53.37 | sc-phone | blast, yes |
17:53.48 | sc-phone | rpg: yes |
17:54.08 | RPG_ | darn |
17:54.27 | RPG_ | i could have saved $30 |
17:54.32 | sc-phone | hubby is using his as a mini ipod |
17:54.36 | RPG_ | lol |
17:57.02 | sc-phone | cya |
17:57.03 | RPG_ | cya |
17:57.05 | CBG | bye |
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18:08.18 | bz4603 | hi |
18:08.34 | bz4603 | does anyone of you have windows xp? |
18:08.38 | Tupone | hi |
18:08.48 | Tupone | some yes |
18:08.52 | bz4603 | you |
18:09.03 | blast007 | I have XP, whacha need? |
18:09.08 | bz4603 | so |
18:09.23 | bz4603 | since today i cannot open my bzflag |
18:09.37 | bz4603 | on thursday it was because of the config file |
18:09.53 | blast007 | any error message? |
18:09.57 | bz4603 | yes |
18:09.58 | bz4603 | wait |
18:10.00 | bz4603 | i will tell you |
18:10.01 | blast007 | k |
18:10.23 | bz4603 | bzflag.exe has found a problem and had to be ended |
18:11.03 | blast007 | have you tried reinstalling the game? |
18:11.13 | bz4603 | and then i should send a problem messagtr |
18:11.15 | bz4603 | and then i should send a problem message |
18:11.19 | bz4603 | yes, i have done it |
18:11.37 | bz4603 | but the problem is still here |
18:11.46 | blast007 | is this version 2.0.2? |
18:11.51 | bz4603 | yep |
18:12.29 | blast007 | and you tried deleting the "My BZFlag Files" folder from My Documents? |
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18:12.38 | bz4603 | ehhhhh |
18:12.48 | bz4603 | the other version works |
18:12.50 | RPG_ | which would be faster: using the API functions or using the BZ functions |
18:12.57 | blast007 | which is what version? |
18:12.59 | RPG_ | by faster i mean during runtime |
18:13.04 | bz4603 | i mean the 2.0.3b10 |
18:13.16 | blast007 | ah |
18:13.17 | bz4603 | <PROTECTED> |
18:13.17 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, there is no real difrence |
18:13.21 | bz4603 | but 2.0.2 not |
18:13.23 | RPG_ | k |
18:13.31 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, the bzfs code just calls the API anyway |
18:14.04 | RPG_ | so if i wanted to reset flags, should i use zapAllFlags or bz_resetFlags |
18:14.38 | bz4603 | so, can anyone help me |
18:15.19 | blast007 | well, it's strange that 2.0.2 doesn't work |
18:15.25 | Tupone | why you not just use the 2.0.3b10 ? |
18:15.32 | bz4603 | yeah |
18:15.39 | bz4603 | but the quality is not so good |
18:15.40 | RPG_ | i think b11 is out |
18:15.44 | blast007 | yup |
18:15.51 | bz4603 | i cannot explain the word |
18:16.04 | bz4603 | i mean a picture after the other |
18:16.34 | bz4603 | slow pictures |
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18:17.06 | bz4603 | on 2.0.3b10 there are often slow pictures |
18:17.12 | bz4603 | what should i do now? |
18:18.06 | bz4603 | and |
18:18.37 | bz4603 | when i open 2.0.2 and close it by the error, there is still 1 bzflag.exe in the task manager under processes |
18:19.25 | Tupone | have you tried running bzflag with a command line? like bzflag -window -d -d |
18:19.43 | bz4603 | where |
18:20.00 | menotume | sounds like 2 instances are running |
18:20.14 | Tupone | dunno the detail ... Have to select run the cmd |
18:20.15 | bz4603 | no |
18:20.23 | bz4603 | hey meno |
18:20.28 | menotume | hi |
18:20.29 | Tupone | s/the/then/ |
18:20.30 | blast007 | so 2.0.3b10 is giving a slow frame rate |
18:20.32 | bz4603 | i have a problem again |
18:20.35 | bz4603 | yes |
18:20.38 | bz4603 | very often |
18:20.38 | menotume | i see |
18:20.44 | bz4603 | it is |
18:20.51 | bz4603 | 2.0.2 gives an error message |
18:20.55 | Tupone | then you get like an old dos window |
18:21.06 | bz4603 | and 2.0.3b10 has an old frame rate |
18:21.14 | bz4603 | and 2.0.3b10 has a slow* frame rate |
18:21.24 | blast007 | Start > Run, type cmd, press OK |
18:21.25 | bz4603 | yes |
18:21.27 | menotume | like, REAL slow ? |
18:21.29 | bz4603 | k |
18:21.36 | bz4603 | yes |
18:21.41 | bz4603 | and what should i do |
18:21.47 | blast007 | then type: cd \program files\bzflag2.0.2\ |
18:21.53 | menotume | kill the other instance !! |
18:22.18 | bz4603 | ehhhhhhh |
18:22.23 | bz4603 | the system cannot find this |
18:22.28 | bz4603 | you mean programm |
18:22.35 | bz4603 | you mean programms* |
18:22.38 | blast007 | no |
18:22.43 | menotume | you had a problem the other day where it would start, but would be minimized, right ? |
18:22.53 | bz4603 | yes |
18:22.55 | bz4603 | no |
18:22.59 | bz4603 | it was not minimized |
18:23.01 | menotume | maybe ? |
18:23.04 | bz4603 | was because of the config file |
18:23.10 | bz4603 | now that is ok |
18:23.17 | bz4603 | so |
18:23.30 | bz4603 | first the frame rate was bad on bzflag 2.0.2. |
18:23.34 | menotume | ok, i'll let a windoze person help |
18:23.41 | bz4603 | then i reinstalled windows xp |
18:23.51 | bz4603 | then i reinstalled windows xp today |
18:23.59 | bz4603 | i did it today |
18:24.10 | Tupone | so probably you need better driver |
18:24.15 | bz4603 | ehhhhhhh |
18:24.21 | bz4603 | i had the best driver |
18:24.28 | Tupone | and now? |
18:24.34 | bz4603 | but 2.0.2 did not work with it |
18:24.38 | blast007 | you reinstalled windows? |
18:24.39 | bz4603 | and not i cannot open 2.0.2 |
18:24.41 | bz4603 | yes |
18:24.50 | bz4603 | but, without losing my data |
18:24.54 | bz4603 | my files |
18:25.03 | blast007 | oh, so just a repair/overlay |
18:25.11 | bz4603 | ehhhhh |
18:25.14 | bz4603 | it was like update |
18:25.25 | bz4603 | i really dunno |
18:25.31 | bz4603 | but it worked after the reinstall |
18:25.41 | bz4603 | only now i cannot open it |
18:26.04 | blast007 | do you know what video card you have? |
18:26.30 | bz4603 | where can i read it |
18:27.36 | bz4603 | hello |
18:27.43 | blast007 | in the Control Panel, go to Display and open that |
18:27.49 | bz4603 | yes |
18:28.04 | bz4603 | where do you mean |
18:28.14 | bz4603 | ok |
18:28.16 | bz4603 | i have it |
18:28.35 | bz4603 | you mean |
18:29.19 | bz4603 | clicking with right mouse on the desktop and then options |
18:29.22 | JeffM2501 | fun isn't it blast007 |
18:29.29 | bz4603 | jeff |
18:29.32 | bz4603 | can you help me? |
18:29.38 | blast007 | heh |
18:29.48 | JeffM2501 | what video card do you have? |
18:29.54 | bz4603 | dunno |
18:30.02 | JeffM2501 | find out |
18:30.02 | bz4603 | dunno where i can read it |
18:30.05 | blast007 | right click on desktop, and then 'Properties' works too |
18:30.13 | blast007 | then there will be a 'Settings' tab |
18:30.14 | JeffM2501 | right where you are |
18:30.37 | bz4603 | k |
18:30.45 | bz4603 | yes |
18:30.47 | bz4603 | i am there |
18:30.57 | JeffM2501 | what is your display adapter |
18:31.58 | bz4603 | my grafic card |
18:32.09 | JeffM2501 | yes |
18:32.09 | bz4603 | ahhh |
18:32.37 | bz4603 | nvidia geforce 4 ti 4200 with agp8X |
18:32.44 | JeffM2501 | what OS you on? |
18:33.09 | CBG | XP |
18:33.11 | bz4603 | xp |
18:33.28 | bz4603 | but |
18:33.28 | JeffM2501 | you have the drivers that came with XP? or the ones from www.nvidia.com ? |
18:33.29 | bz4603 | one thing |
18:33.39 | bz4603 | ehhhhh |
18:33.43 | bz4603 | www.nvidia.de |
18:33.45 | bz4603 | wait |
18:33.49 | bz4603 | i had them |
18:33.59 | JeffM2501 | had? |
18:34.01 | JeffM2501 | or have? |
18:34.05 | bz4603 | yes had |
18:34.06 | bz4603 | wait |
18:34.08 | bz4603 | please |
18:34.20 | bz4603 | 2 days ago i haad a problem with my config file |
18:34.35 | bz4603 | i solved it then |
18:34.53 | bz4603 | and, yesterday it worked |
18:34.54 | JeffM2501 | the bzflag config? |
18:34.58 | bz4603 | yes |
18:35.00 | bz4603 | and, yesterday it worked |
18:35.01 | JeffM2501 | ok so what did you do today that made it not work? |
18:35.07 | bz4603 | so |
18:35.17 | bz4603 | today 2.0.2 had a slow frame rate |
18:35.28 | bz4603 | so often very slow frames |
18:35.33 | bz4603 | like every 10 sec |
18:36.23 | bz4603 | so |
18:36.28 | bz4603 | and then i decided to reinstall xo |
18:36.30 | bz4603 | and then i decided to reinstall xp |
18:36.44 | bz4603 | but, not that option that my files would be deleted |
18:36.52 | JeffM2501 | dosn't mater |
18:36.55 | bz4603 | another options, like update |
18:36.56 | bz4603 | so |
18:36.59 | JeffM2501 | it blew out your drivers |
18:37.03 | JeffM2501 | reinstall directX |
18:37.07 | bz4603 | but |
18:37.07 | JeffM2501 | and the nvidia drivers |
18:37.08 | bz4603 | yes |
18:37.14 | bz4603 | wait |
18:37.23 | bz4603 | then everything worked again |
18:38.09 | bz4603 | but then i could not open it |
18:38.13 | bz4603 | an error message |
18:38.35 | JeffM2501 | and that error message is? |
18:38.42 | bz4603 | i told it already |
18:38.50 | JeffM2501 | tell me again |
18:39.14 | bz4603 | bzflag.exe has found a problem and had to be ended |
18:39.25 | JeffM2501 | standard crash message |
18:39.26 | bz4603 | bzflag.exe has found a problem and had to be closed* |
18:39.30 | JeffM2501 | blow out your config |
18:39.35 | JeffM2501 | and reinstall |
18:39.40 | bz4603 | so |
18:39.41 | JeffM2501 | go get the nvidia drivers |
18:39.43 | bz4603 | wait |
18:39.45 | JeffM2501 | AND directX 9 |
18:39.52 | bz4603 | i have 9 |
18:40.00 | bz4603 | aha |
18:40.04 | JeffM2501 | did you do the nvidia drivers? |
18:40.09 | bz4603 | nope |
18:40.11 | bz4603 | so |
18:40.14 | bz4603 | please wait here |
18:40.21 | bz4603 | i have to restart xp more times |
18:40.29 | blast007 | o.O |
18:40.32 | creeperz | ??? |
18:40.33 | bz4603 | jeff |
18:40.47 | JeffM2501 | yes, random bzflag user |
18:40.58 | bz4603 | jeff, wait, i will come back |
18:40.59 | bz4603 | so |
18:41.12 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
18:41.17 | bz4603 | delete config file, then reinstall, then driver |
18:41.24 | JeffM2501 | how long will it take you? |
18:41.29 | bz4603 | ehhhhh |
18:41.29 | JeffM2501 | it's not rocket science |
18:41.32 | bz4603 | like |
18:41.35 | bz4603 | 10 min i think |
18:41.39 | creeperz | :-O |
18:41.43 | bz4603 | perhaps faster |
18:42.02 | bz4603 | but |
18:42.04 | bz4603 | yes |
18:42.06 | creeperz | you better be making chili or like a roast or something in that 10 minutes :-P |
18:42.12 | bz4603 | ok |
18:42.17 | bz4603 | c u in 10 min |
18:42.50 | blast007 | it probably take 10 minutes to restart cuz he has 15 toolbars in IE |
18:42.58 | brad2901 | lol |
18:43.14 | CBG | "blow out"? heh |
18:43.36 | creeperz | i think it only takes about 20 seconds total for my machine to boot :-) |
18:44.05 | CBG | ditto. :) |
18:44.13 | CBG | creeperz: you have a mac too? |
18:44.24 | JeffM2501 | CBG, XP boots fast as well |
18:44.26 | creeperz | LAWL! |
18:44.30 | blast007 | my computers take a bit to load, cuz they aren't the fastest, and they run stuff like web servers and databases ;) |
18:44.31 | JeffM2501 | it does the same thing as tiger does |
18:44.37 | creeperz | no, but I do have an intel mobo :-P |
18:44.42 | CBG | JeffM2501: Maybe... I was just making a little joke. :) |
18:44.52 | JeffM2501 | creeperz, just like the new macs :) |
18:45.01 | creeperz | mm hmm ^^ |
18:45.03 | CBG | :) |
18:45.25 | CBG | So, What are these major changes trepan is making to the graphics engine, then? |
18:45.41 | JeffM2501 | I dono |
18:45.42 | JeffM2501 | ask him |
18:45.56 | JeffM2501 | he did some radar stuff |
18:45.56 | CBG | I just did, in a roundabout kinda way. :) |
18:46.50 | JeffM2501 | what have his commit messages said? |
18:53.07 | trepan | CBG: modified the observer tracking mode controls |
18:53.24 | CBG | I didn't! :P |
18:55.58 | jpa- | CBG: we know you did |
18:56.13 | CBG | No. You can't pin this on me!! |
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18:57.12 | bz2812 | hi back |
18:57.34 | CBG | That was 14 minutes. |
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18:57.41 | CBG | Did you bake a cake? |
18:57.46 | bz2812 | jeff, please help me, my pc needs nearly 1 minute until the booting window goes away |
18:57.50 | JeffM2501 | CBG, be nice |
18:57.57 | steven__ | nick s7even |
18:58.02 | CBG | JeffM2501: I was :) |
18:58.03 | JeffM2501 | sounds like a slow computer |
18:58.07 | s7even | oops |
18:58.08 | bz2812 | nope |
18:58.12 | s7even | hi all |
18:58.16 | CBG | hi |
18:58.18 | bz2812 | it worked yesterday |
18:58.55 | JeffM2501 | well bz2812 you changed things, so stuff tends to break when you do that |
18:59.02 | JeffM2501 | did you reinstall bz? |
18:59.18 | s7even | anyone ever have to deal with 2 team flags? |
18:59.22 | bz2812 | so |
18:59.26 | bz2812 | i reinstalled it |
18:59.29 | JeffM2501 | s7even, you can |
18:59.57 | s7even | i am trying to get rid of it. |
19:00.10 | s7even | there is no +f (team) anywhere |
19:00.16 | JeffM2501 | s7even, how many bases are on your map? |
19:00.19 | s7even | 2 |
19:00.25 | JeffM2501 | then you get 2 team flags |
19:00.27 | s7even | i am using the overlord map |
19:00.32 | JeffM2501 | you want to do a -f |
19:00.37 | JeffM2501 | with the team flag |
19:00.40 | s7even | from dutchrai |
19:00.41 | JeffM2501 | that may do it |
19:00.43 | s7even | ok |
19:00.51 | s7even | never thot of that! |
19:00.52 | s7even | thx |
19:00.55 | s7even | ! |
19:00.55 | JeffM2501 | by deafault you get 1 flag per base |
19:01.25 | s7even | k, brb if it doesnt work :) |
19:01.29 | s7even | thx again |
19:01.38 | creeperz | s7even: old map, cant go wrong with a classic ^^ |
19:01.45 | creeperz | grbl |
19:02.06 | CBG | lol |
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19:02.22 | creeperz | shaddap, cabbage :-P |
19:02.47 | bz8551 | uups |
19:02.54 | bz8551 | so |
19:02.59 | bz8551 | why is it so slow, please help me |
19:03.00 | JeffM2501 | did it work? |
19:03.01 | trepan | for future reference: [+f {good|bad|team||flag-id}[{count}]] |
19:03.16 | JeffM2501 | does it run at all |
19:03.27 | CBG | trepan: he left. :) |
19:03.28 | bz8551 | what |
19:03.36 | JeffM2501 | does bzflag run now? |
19:03.41 | bz8551 | nope |
19:03.49 | JeffM2501 | then you have other system problems |
19:03.58 | JeffM2501 | where did you get your install? |
19:04.04 | bz8551 | wait |
19:04.05 | trepan | CBG: had a shot of stupid when you woke up this morning? |
19:04.09 | bz8551 | it worked 2 days ago |
19:04.15 | creeperz | lol, trepan |
19:04.21 | JeffM2501 | then 2 days ago your system didn't have the problems it has today |
19:04.21 | CBG | trepan: I didnt wake up this morning. |
19:04.34 | CBG | trepan: I went to bed this morning. Woke up this afternoon. :) |
19:04.55 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o trepan] by JeffM2501 |
19:05.03 | CBG | uh oh! :o |
19:05.23 | bz8551 | should i deinstall my xp |
19:05.29 | JeffM2501 | bz8551, dono |
19:05.37 | JeffM2501 | we can not offer help on the OS itself |
19:05.41 | JeffM2501 | bzflag should run |
19:06.01 | bz8551 | it does not |
19:06.01 | JeffM2501 | you may have problems like spyware |
19:06.10 | JeffM2501 | then there is something else wrong |
19:06.18 | JeffM2501 | did you throw away your "my bzflag files" folder? |
19:06.36 | bz8551 | the config |
19:06.42 | JeffM2501 | the entire folder |
19:06.44 | JeffM2501 | did you remove it? |
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19:07.23 | bz8551 | i removed the config file |
19:07.38 | JeffM2501 | do the folder |
19:07.41 | bz8551 | k |
19:07.53 | bz8551 | so |
19:07.57 | bz8551 | it is away |
19:08.06 | JeffM2501 | try and run |
19:08.28 | bz8551 | nope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
19:08.32 | bz8551 | so |
19:08.40 | blast007 | wow.. |
19:08.40 | bz8551 | i will deinstall xp now |
19:08.48 | creeperz | ?? |
19:08.48 | bz8551 | not important what happens |
19:08.51 | JeffM2501 | best of luck |
19:08.57 | bz8551 | man |
19:08.59 | bz8551 | wait |
19:09.00 | JeffM2501 | what version are you running? |
19:18.47 | a_monkey | hmm |
19:18.56 | a_monkey | i get this error when i try to compile bz: cc1plus: warning: command line option "-Wstrict-prototypes" is valid for C/ObjC but not for C++ |
19:20.16 | a_monkey | then i get a bunch of these: error: `fd_set' has not been declared |
19:21.27 | a_monkey | can someone help |
19:22.17 | a_monkey | mac schmack |
19:22.21 | a_monkey | who cares |
19:22.34 | a_monkey | pretty much same thing as linux |
19:22.40 | a_monkey | or bsd |
19:22.58 | a_monkey | pretend i'm on linux |
19:24.18 | a_monkey | well i gotta go |
19:24.20 | a_monkey | bye |
19:25.54 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Tupone] by ChanServ |
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19:36.26 | brlcad | heh |
19:36.41 | Tupone | hola |
19:36.44 | creeperz | i have foudn the secret to the best coffee ever |
19:36.55 | brlcad | hola |
19:37.40 | creeperz | !weather 57350 |
19:37.41 | TheLastSpartan | creeperz: The current temperature in Huron, South Dakota (57350) is 97°F (1:55 PM CDT on July 23, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 70°F. Pressure: 29.69 in (1005 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 11 out of 16 |
19:37.55 | creeperz | uugh, 97 |
19:37.59 | Death_Barrel | !weather 77095 |
19:38.01 | TheLastSpartan | Death_Barrel: The current temperature in Houston, Texas (77095) is 105°F (2:35 PM CDT on July 23, 2005). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 72°F. UV: 10 out of 16 |
19:38.06 | Death_Barrel | :) |
19:38.07 | creeperz | uugh 105 |
19:38.13 | Death_Barrel | yep it sucks |
19:38.25 | creeperz | quick! |
19:38.42 | creeperz | everyone turn your air conditioning units on full bast and open all of your doors and windows |
19:38.57 | Tupone | creeperz ??? |
19:39.09 | creeperz | blast* |
19:39.16 | creeperz | to cool the world |
19:39.23 | creeperz | and mainly me |
19:39.26 | Tupone | I think it will warm it |
19:39.28 | creeperz | cuz my A/C is broken |
19:39.37 | Death_Barrel | quick someone melt the polar ice caps |
19:39.45 | creeperz | hehe |
19:39.55 | Death_Barrel | waz up creeperz man |
19:40.02 | Death_Barrel | yo yo blast007 |
19:40.05 | blast007 | :) |
19:40.09 | creeperz | Death_Barrel: the heat index :-P |
19:40.09 | Death_Barrel | :D |
19:41.11 | creeperz | yup, its drastic, but I must |
19:41.42 | Death_Barrel | ok guys cya off to see fantastic 4 |
19:41.43 | Death_Barrel | later |
19:41.56 | Death_Barrel | don't forget your panties |
19:42.00 | Death_Barrel | later |
19:42.04 | creeperz | peace |
19:42.06 | blast007 | cya |
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19:46.09 | CBG | Death_Barrel :D |
19:46.13 | zoly | brad2901: now try ducati for a change |
19:46.54 | CBG | Who wants to do me a quick favour? |
19:47.16 | creeperz | black & mild > marlboro reds |
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19:48.19 | brad2901 | zoly: same place? |
19:48.24 | zoly | just any. |
19:48.31 | brad2901 | ok |
19:48.38 | zoly | feels like your tank is sticking to mud |
19:48.57 | zoly | you want to get out and push |
19:49.40 | brad2901 | :) |
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19:57.03 | raz77 | hey, ive installed 2.02 on windows and noticed a diff to an older vers. under linux: the radar is sticking out beyond the radar window border |
19:57.19 | raz77 | is this a bug or a feature? |
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19:59.40 | a_monkey | can anybody help me compile bz? |
20:00.10 | Tupone | what machine, what OS, what version ? |
20:00.21 | a_monkey | i get http://rafb.net/paste/results/ROxWpg70.html |
20:00.32 | a_monkey | Tupone: powerpc, os x, 2.0.2 |
20:00.46 | a_monkey | i'm compiling a version optimized for my slowass machine |
20:00.58 | Tupone | what gcc version ? |
20:01.03 | a_monkey | 3.3 |
20:01.40 | a_monkey | i was able to compile 2.0.0 successfully |
20:01.46 | a_monkey | but not 2.0.2 for some odd reason |
20:01.58 | a_monkey | i have no idea what that error means... |
20:02.46 | a_monkey | Tupone: do you know anything about this error? |
20:05.50 | Tupone | those printout seems strange? Have you removed some lines? |
20:05.57 | a_monkey | no |
20:06.20 | Tupone | ... no reference on where the select.h is included |
20:07.32 | a_monkey | i dunno |
20:07.42 | a_monkey | i'll paste what comes before that |
20:08.21 | a_monkey | http://rafb.net/paste/results/e9yOza83.html |
20:09.38 | a_monkey | then the errors come |
20:09.41 | a_monkey | and that's it... |
20:09.54 | Tupone | did you add -O3 ? |
20:09.57 | a_monkey | yes |
20:09.58 | a_monkey | i did |
20:10.15 | a_monkey | hmmm |
20:10.22 | a_monkey | it does the same thing without -O3 |
20:10.28 | a_monkey | so it's not that... |
20:11.27 | Tupone | I know, just curiosity |
20:11.44 | a_monkey | hmm |
20:14.21 | a_monkey | i want my bzflag. :-( |
20:14.24 | a_monkey | lol |
20:16.42 | a_monkey | ...so... stumped, eh? |
20:16.53 | a_monkey | heh |
20:17.28 | Tupone | can you update to last CVS ? |
20:17.46 | a_monkey | is it stable enough? |
20:17.52 | _Manu_ | a_monkey, when you say optimized, do you mean you changed something? |
20:18.02 | Tupone | bleeding edge |
20:18.05 | _Manu_ | or just compiling from sources |
20:18.14 | a_monkey | _Manu_: no. i mean optimized via gcc |
20:18.38 | _Manu_ | try to download from anoncvs and compile it |
20:18.45 | a_monkey | ok |
20:18.47 | blast007 | is anon back up yet? |
20:18.52 | Tupone | a_monkey, I play regularly with it . But not judge from my performance .. I suck whatever |
20:19.15 | blast007 | apparently not..it's asking for a password |
20:19.43 | _Manu_ | oh.. is down? |
20:19.52 | blast007 | yup |
20:19.56 | blast007 | was down yesterday too |
20:20.03 | a_monkey | hmm |
20:20.15 | a_monkey | now whaddami s'posed to do? |
20:20.17 | _Manu_ | weird |
20:20.40 | Tupone | you can hope some of the dev get a tar for you ? I cannot :( |
20:20.42 | blast007 | but only for projects who's name starts with certain letters |
20:22.10 | Tupone | could someone post a make dist produced tar ? |
20:22.26 | _Manu_ | probably.. |
20:24.26 | _Manu_ | a_monkey, I can send you a bzflag tar if you want |
20:24.40 | _Manu_ | with a working cvs update |
20:24.47 | a_monkey | _Manu_: k |
20:24.51 | a_monkey | _Manu_: thankx |
20:24.59 | a_monkey | err, thanx :-) |
20:25.18 | a_monkey | a mix of thanks and thanx |
20:25.52 | blast007 | :) |
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20:49.28 | stinkbomb | Hi all |
20:49.51 | stinkbomb | fyi.. i had posted earlier about duplicate flags..... |
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20:50.13 | stinkbomb | i had a '-c' in both .conf and .bzw files |
20:50.37 | a_monkey | brlcad: you around? |
20:50.43 | stinkbomb | dunno (for sure) if that was it, because there was also -f G and -f R |
20:50.50 | stinkbomb | .....fyi |
20:50.51 | stinkbomb | bye |
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21:13.13 | Dodge_This | when running bzflag in a window, how is the cursor/mouse released from that window? |
21:16.16 | _Manu_ | Options->Input settings->Confine mouse=No |
21:16.29 | Dodge_This | cool, thx |
21:17.16 | Dodge_This | i thought it would be like <ctrl><shift> or some other key combo |
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21:56.06 | RPG_ | hey |
21:56.12 | RPG_ | can someone test a server with me? |
21:58.02 | blast007 | sure |
21:58.09 | RPG_ | let me get it started |
21:59.43 | RPG_ | IP: 24.15.87.171 |
21:59.46 | RPG_ | port: 5154 |
22:01.46 | blast007 | 1 sec, my config is messed up |
22:03.53 | RPG_ | gotta change /repormatch to /matchend |
22:04.27 | blast007 | or you could do something like "/match end" and "/match start" |
22:04.43 | RPG_ | i have /startmatch and /endmatch |
22:04.52 | RPG_ | hmmm |
22:04.58 | RPG_ | /match start and /match end would seem more logical |
22:05.13 | RPG_ | but then i'd have to separate paramaters |
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22:05.56 | RPG_ | i'm gonna need another test roudn soon :) |
22:06.06 | RPG_ | i need one team to get to 7 points |
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22:09.22 | RPG_ | who's up for a game of CTF? |
22:09.31 | RPG_ | a test game of CTF? |
22:10.13 | blast007 | can't really play on here, no 3D accel ;) |
22:10.25 | RPG_ | IP: 24.15.87.171 |
22:10.25 | RPG_ | port: 5154 |
22:10.26 | Dream | Can someone tell me how to play? Where to I find a client server to join? Etc. |
22:10.32 | RPG_ | join either blue or red |
22:10.33 | RPG_ | please |
22:11.16 | Dream | I've never played before, and I know nothing about BZFlag. |
22:11.22 | brad2901 | www.bzflag.org ! |
22:11.41 | brad2901 | RPG_: coming =) |
22:11.43 | Dream | But where is the link to play a game? I am confused. |
22:11.49 | RPG_ | brad: jon red |
22:11.52 | brad2901 | ok |
22:12.27 | blast007 | Dream: start up the client, go to "Join Game" and then "Find Servers" |
22:12.55 | Dream | How do I start up the client? |
22:13.07 | blast007 | did you install the game? |
22:13.33 | Dream | Well, I got an editor, and something else which doesn't have an exe file for me to open.... |
22:13.48 | blast007 | could you elaborate? |
22:14.01 | Dream | Looking... |
22:14.10 | blast007 | well, I'm assuming you're on Windows |
22:14.18 | Dream | Yes. |
22:14.25 | blast007 | and bzedit is not the client |
22:14.32 | Dream | Yeah. |
22:14.54 | blast007 | try this: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/bzflag/bzflag-2.0.2.exe?download |
22:15.40 | blast007 | download that, run it, and it should install |
22:15.48 | blast007 | then you can go to your start menu to run it |
22:16.18 | blast007 | Start > Programs > BZFlag 2.0.2 > Start BZFlag 2.0.2 |
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22:21.08 | RPG_ | that was the first successful run all day |
22:21.16 | RPG_ | it worked like a dream |
22:21.23 | blast007 | cool |
22:21.34 | RPG_ | i just have one more thing and then it's finishe |
22:21.42 | RPG_ | what function is used to HTTP POST something? |
22:23.18 | RPG_ | Callsign: brad2901 |
22:23.18 | RPG_ | E-mail: [ForestForce] |
22:23.28 | brad2901 | ? |
22:23.39 | brad2901 | Is that in the .txt file? |
22:23.41 | RPG_ | i was showing brad the outpust |
22:23.42 | RPG_ | yes |
22:23.45 | brad2901 | o |
22:23.46 | brad2901 | k |
22:23.47 | RPG_ | i know why team is messed up |
22:24.00 | RPG_ | oh you ARE brad |
22:24.01 | RPG_ | sry |
22:24.11 | RPG_ | thought u were blast007 :) |
22:24.11 | brad2901 | ? |
22:24.15 | brad2901 | lol |
22:24.16 | RPG_ | don't ask |
22:24.20 | blast007 | hehe |
22:24.21 | Dream | Okay, it's installed, and I got the BZFlag 2.02 windowed opened, though it looks a bit rough, and the screen navigation seems limited. |
22:24.53 | blast007 | screen navigation? |
22:25.06 | Dream | Scrolling. |
22:25.17 | Dream | 'Selecting' |
22:25.27 | blast007 | I'm still not sure what you mean |
22:25.43 | blast007 | the menu only has a few items |
22:25.45 | blast007 | main menu* |
22:26.06 | Dream | It is working better now... |
22:27.24 | blast007 | k |
22:27.41 | RPG_ | ...but is it working like a dreaM? |
22:27.57 | blast007 | :) |
22:28.02 | Dream | It says "Server started." |
22:28.17 | blast007 | you are not wanting to start a server... |
22:28.24 | blast007 | you want to _join_ a server |
22:28.29 | blast007 | Find Server |
22:28.30 | RPG_ | You have to press connect instead of start server |
22:28.36 | Dream | Oh, ok. |
22:28.41 | RPG_ | i've seen many people make that mistake |
22:31.13 | Dream | What is an easy way to "enter a server', or select one before I connect? |
22:31.41 | Dream | Oh, 'Find Server'... |
22:31.45 | RPG_ | yep :) |
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22:34.07 | blast007 | lol |
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22:39.41 | Dream | I am playing. This Seems to have worked. Thanks for your help. : ) |
22:39.59 | blast007 | np :) enjoy |
22:40.10 | Dream | Wee! |
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22:41.24 | linuxclub | menotume:: you here? |
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22:48.05 | sc-phone | hi all |
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23:10.24 | CBG | brad2901 |
23:10.35 | brad2901 | CBG |
23:10.39 | CBG | oh, nothing... |
23:10.45 | brad2901 | ok.... |
23:19.31 | zoly | can i re-read an updated -helpmsg without restarting the server ? |
23:20.08 | brad2901 | nope |
23:20.16 | zoly | oh well. |
23:20.18 | brad2901 | :) |
23:21.38 | blast007 | it's too bad that /reload doesn't do that.. |
23:21.43 | blast007 | it could though |
23:21.53 | zoly | <PROTECTED> |
23:22.04 | brad2901 | reload should reload all files |
23:23.10 | CBG | wtf is /reload ? lol |
23:23.20 | brad2901 | .. |
23:23.32 | brad2901 | it reloads groupdb userdb and passdb |
23:23.37 | zoly | reread user/group files |
23:23.48 | CBG | hmph. nobody told me. :P |
23:24.02 | zoly | is written in manual |
23:24.04 | brad2901 | well maybe you didn't RTFM? :P |
23:24.10 | blast007 | lol |
23:24.19 | CBG | :) |
23:24.25 | CBG | what Manual. :P |
23:24.43 | blast007 | http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/ServerCommands |
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23:25.16 | blast007 | and http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzfs.6s |
23:25.28 | CBG | heh. its the last but one on the wiki/ServerCommands :P |
23:26.02 | blast007 | doesn't mean it doesn't exist/matter |
23:26.25 | CBG | :) Yeah... I was just messing :) |
23:26.55 | CBG | http://tinyurl.com/aocth |
23:27.24 | RPG_ | who set up that site? |
23:27.49 | RPG_ | i need one of those! |
23:27.50 | CBG | me... today |
23:28.00 | CBG | Zazzle? Its free... |
23:28.18 | CBG | TimRiker said he doesnt make any profit on the cafepress one. |
23:28.33 | RPG_ | then who does? |
23:28.34 | RPG_ | lol |
23:28.44 | blast007 | he sells them at cost |
23:28.50 | CBG | I said he should - nobody would complain. He replied that cafrepress makes it difficult. |
23:28.57 | CBG | I found an alternative to cafepress. |
23:29.03 | RPG_ | which is zazzle? |
23:29.08 | CBG | iirc, I get 10% of anything anyone spends there. |
23:29.30 | CBG | Which, of course I will pass onto the devs, if they approve it. |
23:29.52 | CBG | Or I can maybe change the settings to that of TimRiker's name and address, etc. |
23:29.57 | RPG_ | lol |
23:30.11 | RPG_ | that'd be considered identity fraud here in the states |
23:30.11 | blast007 | what does Tim think of the design? he like it? |
23:30.18 | CBG | He hasn't seen it. |
23:30.23 | JeffM2501 | yellow? |
23:30.28 | CBG | You folks are the only ones that have. |
23:30.33 | CBG | Hi JeffM2501 :) |
23:30.47 | CBG | I prefer Gold. |
23:31.00 | JeffM2501 | it's yellow |
23:31.05 | brad2901 | since when was there a gold team, CBG? |
23:31.07 | blast007 | <TimRiker> CBG: fine with me. I'd like folks to run the designs past me before selling stuff. |
23:31.08 | CBG | heh. If you insist. |
23:31.09 | JeffM2501 | lemon drop tank |
23:31.18 | RPG_ | that'd be ugly |
23:31.22 | CBG | brad2901: I never said there was. |
23:31.33 | CBG | blast007: yeah... but he's not on. :P |
23:31.54 | JeffM2501 | bzflag font is wrong |
23:31.56 | CBG | I am sure he will see this in the logs at some point. :) |
23:32.04 | CBG | JeffM2501: it's all wrong. |
23:32.08 | JeffM2501 | and did you just gank staturos's artworkl? |
23:32.25 | CBG | I don't believe any of it is Satu's ? |
23:32.33 | JeffM2501 | I belive it is |
23:32.39 | CBG | What? |
23:32.43 | JeffM2501 | who made that layout |
23:32.52 | CBG | Layout? |
23:32.54 | JeffM2501 | it's a hodge podge of net images |
23:32.57 | JeffM2501 | on the shirts |
23:33.17 | CBG | this: http://www.zazzle.com/products/product/popups/real_view_235.asp?http://img.zazzle.com/dzn/0F59E754-39F6-450C-B863-ABB2C86BDB67/front_real_sz500_qt80.jpg |
23:33.20 | CBG | ? |
23:33.39 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
23:33.44 | JeffM2501 | the icon is his |
23:33.48 | CBG | Sure. |
23:33.50 | JeffM2501 | as well as I think that tank |
23:33.56 | CBG | The tank, maybe. |
23:34.04 | JeffM2501 | there are NO other images in it :) |
23:34.05 | CBG | I had some kind of model. |
23:34.19 | CBG | I "rendered" it, and coloured it gold in PS. |
23:34.31 | CBG | I thought it was the old tank. not Satu's own |
23:34.32 | JeffM2501 | renderdd it? |
23:34.40 | CBG | And the icon is bundled with bz now anyway. |
23:34.45 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
23:34.47 | CBG | Yeah. |
23:34.49 | JeffM2501 | but what did you render it in? |
23:35.04 | CBG | Blender. |
23:35.10 | CBG | I just opened it. |
23:35.16 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
23:35.23 | CBG | press render, and took a screeny. iirc |
23:35.23 | JeffM2501 | yeah he did the cell edge stuff |
23:35.40 | JeffM2501 | the design has no consisencey |
23:35.50 | CBG | what design? the tank? |
23:35.51 | CBG | Oh. Has anyone got the actual bz-tank model then? |
23:35.52 | JeffM2501 | yellow, green, rainbow on the back |
23:35.58 | JeffM2501 | the desging of the shirt |
23:36.00 | JeffM2501 | en toto |
23:36.02 | CBG | Yeah... |
23:36.12 | JeffM2501 | CBG, that IS the bzflag model |
23:36.13 | CBG | JeffM2501: I am not a Professional Designer... :P |
23:36.33 | CBG | You just said it's not? |
23:36.36 | JeffM2501 | CBG, I can tell, why make shirts with designs |
23:36.38 | JeffM2501 | no I didn't |
23:36.48 | JeffM2501 | I said it was his art |
23:36.51 | JeffM2501 | and it is |
23:36.55 | JeffM2501 | he did the tank that way |
23:36.58 | JeffM2501 | the model is of the tank |
23:37.05 | JeffM2501 | but he did the settings to make it render like that |
23:37.12 | JeffM2501 | he got the tank model from me |
23:37.14 | CBG | hmm |
23:37.16 | JeffM2501 | I exported it from bz |
23:37.45 | JeffM2501 | 1) it's a shirt, noone is going to read all that text |
23:37.52 | CBG | Can I have the original, 2.0.x model please? |
23:37.55 | JeffM2501 | 2) pick a color theme, remember the shirt has to go with others |
23:37.59 | CBG | Jeff: I know. |
23:38.01 | JeffM2501 | there is no "2.0" model |
23:38.05 | CBG | It's just a mock.... |
23:38.09 | JeffM2501 | it's the same as the old one |
23:38.17 | blast007 | it's a mock, yet it's up for sale? |
23:38.23 | CBG | heh... |
23:38.32 | CBG | Well - people cna buy it if they really want. |
23:38.35 | blast007 | a mock would be a PNG image of the design |
23:38.52 | CBG | *sigh* |
23:39.25 | CBG | 1. Please can I have the bog-standard tank model that is used in-game and permission to use it. |
23:39.44 | JeffM2501 | it's on bzbb |
23:39.45 | CBG | Otherwise I won't be doing this store which is gonna be eraning money for you guys. |
23:39.54 | JeffM2501 | in a number of forms |
23:40.10 | JeffM2501 | CBG, you'll sell no more then 10 shirts |
23:40.16 | CBG | 2. What is in the store now was not made by a professional designer. Just some crappy things I shoved together. |
23:40.28 | JeffM2501 | why put it in a store then? |
23:40.28 | CBG | JeffM2501: you mean with these designs? |
23:40.35 | JeffM2501 | I mean with any design |
23:40.56 | JeffM2501 | the shirt thing has been done many times |
23:41.00 | CBG | 10 shirst still makes you atleast $17. |
23:41.07 | JeffM2501 | whopty do |
23:41.13 | JeffM2501 | oooo 17 bucks |
23:41.16 | CBG | gee man |
23:41.21 | JeffM2501 | it costs more in time to collect it :) |
23:41.21 | CBG | wtf is your issue? |
23:41.29 | CBG | I am gonna earn you $17 |
23:41.35 | CBG | you have to do f***-all. |
23:41.41 | JeffM2501 | me personaly? |
23:41.43 | JeffM2501 | no your not |
23:42.02 | JeffM2501 | will they even cut you a check for less then 25? |
23:42.19 | CBG | Thats not the point. |
23:42.25 | CBG | You dont have to do ANYTHING |
23:42.37 | JeffM2501 | CBG, somone has to play devils advocate, if the idea is good enoguh itll stand up to the cirtisism |
23:42.59 | CBG | fine |
23:43.05 | CBG | then I wont do it |
23:43.11 | CBG | I wont make any donations to the devs |
23:43.15 | JeffM2501 | then you don't have the drive |
23:43.25 | JeffM2501 | the devs never get any money |
23:43.29 | JeffM2501 | it all goes to Tim |
23:43.29 | CBG | You want me to do it or not? |
23:43.38 | JeffM2501 | he usses it to pay his cable bill |
23:43.38 | CBG | Why? |
23:43.47 | JeffM2501 | cus it runs the dns server |
23:43.54 | CBG | Oh. Fair enough |
23:44.01 | CBG | But what happens if there is extra left over? |
23:44.17 | JeffM2501 | there never is |
23:44.31 | CBG | Use your imagination! |
23:44.32 | JeffM2501 | it's not like we are a non profic org |
23:44.34 | CBG | what if there was? |
23:44.42 | JeffM2501 | that would be up to Tim |
23:45.11 | JeffM2501 | if it was up to me, I'd pay nid |
23:45.25 | JeffM2501 | then if there was more left I'd run a subscription based bzflag server |
23:45.43 | JeffM2501 | and then use that cash to put bountys on features |
23:45.44 | CBG | and what about the proceeds from that? |
23:45.55 | CBG | oh. |
23:46.13 | JeffM2501 | but that would require a real design |
23:47.01 | JeffM2501 | then if there was still more left I'd advertise |
23:47.23 | CBG | So, you want me to TRY and earn you some of this money? |
23:47.34 | JeffM2501 | I never said I didn't |
23:47.51 | JeffM2501 | I just was seeing if you had the energy to keep your idea up against critisim |
23:47.54 | JeffM2501 | and you didn't |
23:47.56 | JeffM2501 | you gave up |
23:48.12 | CBG | Did I? |
23:48.27 | CBG | I just stopped the arguement. |
23:48.29 | JeffM2501 | <CBG>fine |
23:48.29 | JeffM2501 | <CBG>then I wont do it |
23:48.39 | CBG | If I gave up, would I say "So, you want me to TRY and earn you some of this money?"? |
23:48.39 | JeffM2501 | that looks like you giving up |
23:48.47 | CBG | Loks can be decieving. |
23:49.06 | JeffM2501 | if I were you I'd make a black shirt |
23:49.13 | JeffM2501 | icon on the back, large |
23:49.23 | JeffM2501 | simple logo and URL on the front |
23:49.28 | JeffM2501 | and that's it |
23:49.39 | CBG | Just one shirt? |
23:49.41 | JeffM2501 | something people would actualy wear |
23:49.46 | JeffM2501 | out into the world |
23:49.48 | CBG | Hardly need a zazzle account fro that :) |
23:50.11 | JeffM2501 | I don't think you have a target audience large enough for more then one design |
23:50.17 | JeffM2501 | and you can allways add more later |
23:50.24 | a_monkey | hey, my thread is ready for posts: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4645 :-) |
23:50.47 | a_monkey | it's got the whole shabang of my 'make' output |
23:51.06 | CBG | I can harldy compile myself, so I am no use. sorry. |
23:51.11 | JeffM2501 | did you do a autogen? |
23:51.11 | a_monkey | np |
23:51.17 | JeffM2501 | and the configure? |
23:51.23 | a_monkey | of course. |
23:51.24 | a_monkey | well |
23:51.27 | a_monkey | no autogen |
23:51.33 | JeffM2501 | then you didn't do it right |
23:51.40 | a_monkey | there was already a configure script there, so i used it |
23:51.48 | JeffM2501 | then you didn't do it right |
23:51.53 | blast007 | iirc, the source archive doesn't need autogen.sh |
23:51.54 | a_monkey | interesting |
23:52.06 | blast007 | or was this from CVS? |
23:52.09 | a_monkey | no |
23:52.13 | a_monkey | 2.0.2 stable |
23:52.13 | JeffM2501 | run autogen |
23:52.16 | a_monkey | k |
23:52.17 | JeffM2501 | it sets up some stuff |
23:52.21 | a_monkey | ah |
23:52.22 | a_monkey | ok |
23:52.23 | JeffM2501 | FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS :) |
23:52.34 | Nidhoggr | pay me!!!! I heard that! |
23:52.36 | Nidhoggr | lol |
23:52.40 | JeffM2501 | ") |
23:52.41 | blast007 | lol |
23:52.50 | JeffM2501 | well I would |
23:52.53 | Nidhoggr | I'm at a coffee shop on my notebook. |
23:53.04 | JeffM2501 | hows it all going? |
23:53.07 | Nidhoggr | yeah. things are very tight right now for cash. |
23:53.14 | Nidhoggr | it's going good |
23:53.27 | Nidhoggr | trying to get my beading business ramped up. |
23:53.53 | Nidhoggr | handed of most server administration to our trusted admins. |
23:53.59 | Nidhoggr | err handed off |
23:54.25 | JeffM2501 | hence why we should pay you :) |
23:55.11 | Nidhoggr | I got a settlement from global crossing for bankrupt 401k, so I actually got to pay a chunk of my internet bill this month. |
23:55.57 | JeffM2501 | want us to take up a colection plate for the list server? |
23:56.07 | a_monkey | JeffM2501: interestingly enough, i get the same error when i do it "right" |
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23:56.14 | Nidhoggr | any donations are very welcome and helpful. |
23:56.27 | JeffM2501 | you have paypall? |
23:56.27 | CBG | nidhoggr: lol. :) |
23:56.40 | Nidhoggr | paypal is frcameron@sacredcup.org |
23:56.56 | CBG | JeffM2501: iirc, the readme says that if there is already a configure file, taht you don't need to do autogen |
23:57.09 | CBG | Last time I updated CVS I didnt do the autogen stuff and it worked fine. |
23:57.13 | JeffM2501 | CBG, you should do it again, in case any optiopns changed |
23:57.21 | a_monkey | hmm |
23:57.21 | Nidhoggr | CBG: seriously... I make 200 dollars a week on average right now. I wish it was something to lol about. |
23:57.26 | a_monkey | i guess nothing changed then |
23:57.49 | Nidhoggr | I am just able to keep my servers running. |
23:57.58 | CBG | Nidhoggr: sorry, I was behind the times a bit. I was lolling about your post "pay me!! I heard that"... |
23:58.05 | Nidhoggr | aaah |
23:58.07 | Nidhoggr | :) |
23:58.19 | CBG | JeffM2501: Is http://sasami.bakadigital.com/models/Tank.obj the current, clean model? |
23:58.23 | CBG | :) |
23:58.23 | Nidhoggr | I'm insanely happy, just very broke. ^^ |
23:58.49 | JeffM2501 | CBG, sure |
23:58.56 | CBG | Jeff: ok. :) |
23:58.57 | JeffM2501 | but if you can get to that file, I'll give you money |
23:59.29 | CBG | Server down? |
23:59.36 | JeffM2501 | no |
23:59.41 | JeffM2501 | it's right here |