irclog2html for #bzflag on 20050712

`00:06.05`	`CBG`	`:/`
`00:06.06`	`BenUrban`	`good enough, or do you need some more?`
`00:06.10`	`BenUrban`	`$SD%^FGTY&*HIJ`
`00:07.27`	`CBG`	`that version is amazing :)`
`00:07.45`	`CBG`	`its almost like the feeling when I first got 2.0.0`
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`00:49.27`	`shorty114`	`bryjen, is your "2002:45a6:86ae:0:0:0:0:1" thing IPv6?`
`00:49.44`	`shorty114`	`c/thing/host`
`00:50.59`	`bryjen`	`yes, that's an IPv6 address`
`00:59.22`	`shorty114`	`cool`
`00:59.46`	`shorty114`	`IPv4 IP's are definately easier :)`
`01:00.24`	`purple_cow`	`shrug`
`01:00.38`	`purple_cow`	`could have written his address as 2002:45a6:86ae::1, which isn't that bad`
`01:14.07`	`cosmos`	`Mon Jul 11 15:14:20 2005`
`01:14.07`	`cosmos`	`Reported by Abid: Hey hepcuts u cant ban me long so i be back and u be sorry hahah!`
`01:27.39`	`shorty114`	`purple_cow, ah, yeah, that's a lot easier :)`
`02:02.40`	`cosmos`	`how do you change the idle kick on the fly?`
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`02:34.46`	`cosmos`	`ahh yes, reduce players on server == threats and cursing out admins in the game`
`02:43.39`	`orange`	`people are bizarre`
`02:54.03`	`Eowyn`	`hi orange`
`02:56.30`	`orange`	`hey there`
`02:56.50`	`orange`	`moving trucks come Wednesday... we're outta this traffic zoo :-)`
`02:57.01`	`Aribeth`	`wow`
`02:57.18`	`Aribeth`	`don't blame you`
`02:57.19`	`orange`	`it will get better, but it's just no longer the place I wanted it to be... what it was 8 years ago`
`02:57.36`	`orange`	`so I'm moving to the country again :-)`
`02:58.08`	`Aribeth`	`its not the same when i was here 6-7 years ago`
`02:58.16`	`Aribeth`	`:)`
`02:59.10`	`orange`	`I know lots of people who are quite happy with what it is and what it's becoming, it's just not my thing`
`02:59.18`	`Aribeth`	`you have a home owners assoc there?`
`03:00.45`	`Aribeth`	`i like that things are not so far away, but the roads cant handel the traffic`
`03:02.07`	`orange`	`yeah, we have a home owners assoc... has been pretty good for our neighborhood`
`03:02.34`	`Aribeth`	`just found out we have one. the owner never disclosed there was one.`
`03:03.18`	`Aribeth`	`got a warning about how the yard looked`
`03:03.23`	`cosmos`	`heh`
`03:03.35`	`Aribeth`	`i hate them`
`03:03.53`	`cosmos`	`love those home owners assoc. friend of mine got warned because the color of his car was not allowed`
`03:03.54`	`Aribeth`	`i call them the yard police`
`03:04.07`	`Aribeth`	`heh. figures`
`03:04.47`	`Aribeth`	`i have a horable sun burn from mowing the lawn in 92 degree weather`
`03:05.14`	`bryjen`	`it was the 10 of 16 UV that got ya`
`03:05.29`	`Aribeth`	`yep`
`03:05.43`	`BenUrban`	`why would you do such a thing?`
`03:05.44`	`Aribeth`	`the lot is 1/2 acre or more`
`03:06.13`	`Aribeth`	`when the home owner's assoc warns you, you have to respond`
`03:06.18`	`Aribeth`	`or be fined`
`03:06.34`	`BenUrban`	`hehe`
`03:06.38`	`Aribeth`	`somehow that does not seem American to me`
`03:06.43`	`BenUrban`	`charge them for sunblock`
`03:06.50`	`Aribeth`	`heh`
`03:07.02`	`BenUrban`	`tell them you got skin cancer`
`03:07.05`	`BenUrban`	`and sue them`
`03:07.09`	`BenUrban`	`heh`
`03:07.12`	`BenUrban`	`THAT's american :P`
`03:07.15`	`orange`	`there are psychos everywhere... a psycho on a homeowners association covenant committee can be a bad thing`
`03:07.21`	`orange`	`we've been lucky here`
`03:07.23`	`cosmos`	`personally i would just replace my grass with cow manure`
`03:07.24`	`Aribeth`	`fighting them is very hard from what i have read`
`03:07.35`	`BenUrban`	`cosmos: fire hazard`
`03:07.50`	`BenUrban`	`well`
`03:07.53`	`cosmos`	`good maybe it will burn down the lawn gestapo`
`03:07.58`	`BenUrban`	`fighting them is what you have to do`
`03:08.00`	`Aribeth`	`orange, yes it can be bad.`
`03:08.12`	`BenUrban`	`it's your duty as an american`
`03:08.16`	`orange`	`but it's the owner's fault for not disclosing`
`03:08.16`	`BenUrban`	`to fight for your country`
`03:08.20`	`BenUrban`	`against oppression`
`03:08.22`	`BenUrban`	`and persecution`
`03:08.25`	`orange`	`you go into these things eyes wide open, or you're supposed to`
`03:08.31`	`orange`	`if someone doesn't tell you, that sucks`
`03:08.40`	`Aribeth`	`yep`
`03:09.09`	`Aribeth`	`if anything happens i will tell them it wasn't discloded`
`03:10.36`	`Aribeth`	`heh, the old mower died trying to get the lawn done before i got the warning`
`03:10.49`	`BenUrban`	`charge them for a mower`
`03:10.57`	`Aribeth`	`i should`
`03:11.04`	`BenUrban`	`...and yet you're not going to`
`03:11.06`	`BenUrban`	`are you?`
`03:11.17`	`BenUrban`	`what's the worst they can do?`
`03:11.32`	`Aribeth`	`it can be a real battle fighting them. :(`
`03:11.45`	`BenUrban`	`that wasn't my question...`
`03:11.47`	`Aribeth`	`and it may not turn out well at all`
`03:11.58`	`cosmos`	`show up naked for your association hearing`
`03:12.00`	`Aribeth`	`prolly not.`
`03:12.01`	`BenUrban`	`lol`
`03:12.06`	`Aribeth`	`heh`
`03:12.09`	`cosmos`	`they can have you removed from your home`
`03:12.10`	`BenUrban`	`do they have legal authority?`
`03:12.15`	`cosmos`	`and you lose all your equity`
`03:12.16`	`BenUrban`	`hmm`
`03:12.22`	`Aribeth`	`i rent`
`03:12.28`	`BenUrban`	`ohhhh`
`03:12.30`	`BenUrban`	`that's different`
`03:12.35`	`BenUrban`	`i think`
`03:12.36`	`BenUrban`	`lol`
`03:12.36`	`cosmos`	`ie your home is turned over to the bank/assoc`
`03:12.38`	`BenUrban`	`i dunno`
`03:12.51`	`Aribeth`	`they have power`
`03:12.58`	`bryjen`	`wow. thats insane`
`03:12.59`	`Aribeth`	`unfortunetly`
`03:13.02`	`BenUrban`	`what givse them power?`
`03:13.05`	`BenUrban`	`*gives`
`03:13.09`	`Aribeth`	`duno`
`03:13.20`	`BenUrban`	`sounds to me like you need to find out`
`03:13.25`	`cosmos`	`stupid white people and their white flight gated communities`
`03:13.33`	`Aribeth`	`im only here for 1 year`
`03:13.48`	`BenUrban`	`i don't see how that matters`
`03:14.02`	`BenUrban`	`heh, i'm a man of principle`
`03:14.14`	`cosmos`	`only those yuppie morons would come up with crap like home owners associations`
`03:14.18`	`orange`	`they get their power from you signing legal documents`
`03:14.23`	`Aribeth`	`they control what color your house is, when you can paint it, etc`
`03:14.35`	`BenUrban`	`who gives them authority to influence the documents?`
`03:14.39`	`BenUrban`	`lol`
`03:14.40`	`BenUrban`	`tre`
`03:14.41`	`BenUrban`	`*true`
`03:14.50`	`orange`	`if you don't like it, you don't buy it`
`03:14.57`	`Aribeth`	`yep`
`03:14.58`	`orange`	`it isn't complicated... when you buy`
`03:15.10`	`orange`	`renting is a different matter, and I don't understand all the nuances there`
`03:15.14`	`cosmos`	`you know what orange i dont like your houses type of wood!! please change it to hickory now or lose your house!`
`03:15.28`	`orange`	`yeah, but they can't change the rules on you in midstream`
`03:16.00`	`BenUrban`	`you can't agree to follow rules that haven't been made yet`
`03:16.14`	`orange`	`the rules are made in advance, usually by the neighborhood builder`
`03:16.18`	`BenUrban`	`and if they have been made, it should be in the document`
`03:16.33`	`orange`	`it is in the document, covenants are provided to the home buyer`
`03:16.47`	`BenUrban`	`and it's your own fault for not reading it thoroughly enough`
`03:17.03`	`orange`	`Aribeth wasn't provided it... that's a different problem`
`03:17.12`	`Aribeth`	`yep`
`03:17.13`	`BenUrban`	`then he didn't sign it`
`03:17.24`	`BenUrban`	`and he isn't bound to do anything`
`03:17.27`	`orange`	`for me, I'm not complaining, it's worked well enough for my neighborhood, and our guys aren't (usually) nazis about things`
`03:17.31`	`Aribeth`	`the owner never disclosed it`
`03:17.39`	`orange`	`read the lease... it's the ultimate answer`
`03:17.41`	`BenUrban`	`then you don't have do to squat`
`03:17.52`	`BenUrban`	`well you may have to squat`
`03:17.53`	`orange`	`it may not even be required to be disclosed... if the lease says you agree to abide by all covenants, then so it is`
`03:17.54`	`BenUrban`	`:P`
`03:18.22`	`BenUrban`	`if you're not able to know the rules beforehand, i can't imagine anyone can hold you to them`
`03:18.27`	`Aribeth`	`it only said we are responsible to keep the yard up. thats all`
`03:18.46`	`BenUrban`	`then you have no deadline`
`03:19.08`	`BenUrban`	`you can wait until the uv levels go down`
`03:19.24`	`Aribeth`	`not really`
`03:19.44`	`orange`	`your lease is the only thing that matters`
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`03:20.08`	`orange`	`if it says you comply with covenants then for better or for worse, so be it :-/`
`03:20.10`	`BenUrban`	`anything not on a contract that you sign is not your problem`
`03:20.13`	`Aribeth`	`yes, but i dont want to let things get out of hand`
`03:20.27`	`BenUrban`	`then don't get yourself snburned`
`03:20.37`	`BenUrban`	`and don't break a lawnmower`
`03:20.41`	`BenUrban`	`s/break/kill/`
`03:21.07`	`BenUrban`	`it can be very simple if you have the right perspective`
`03:21.23`	`Aribeth`	`well, it was as much for the assoc as it was to get it done before the storm`
`03:21.30`	`orange`	`ever been in a contract dispute BenUrban?`
`03:21.34`	`BenUrban`	`nope`
`03:21.41`	`orange`	`Aribeth: I heard that, brutal rains last night`
`03:21.48`	`Aribeth`	`yep`
`03:21.57`	`orange`	`BenUrban: it's never simple`
`03:21.59`	`BenUrban`	`i negotiated the contracts that i signed when i was hired`
`03:22.02`	`Aribeth`	`and the grass was 1 foot tall in some places`
`03:22.09`	`BenUrban`	`well not quite when i was hired`
`03:22.16`	`BenUrban`	`took 6 months or so to negotiate`
`03:22.22`	`BenUrban`	`and iron out the kinks`
`03:22.27`	`bryjen`	`as pointed out earlier, BenUrban also does not have tens of thousands of dollars tied up in a house he'd be risking losing....`
`03:22.27`	`BenUrban`	`simple`
`03:22.36`	`BenUrban`	`heh, indeed`
`03:23.08`	`Aribeth`	`or landlords that would come crashing down on him`
`03:23.11`	`orange`	`the risk for Aribeth is that the HOA will go after the owner and the owner will claim a broken lease`
`03:23.13`	`BenUrban`	`lol`
`03:23.23`	`orange`	`eviction is the biggest risk here`
`03:23.23`	`Aribeth`	`yep`
`03:23.32`	`orange`	`or penalties, if such are specified in the lease`
`03:23.34`	`BenUrban`	`the main reason i got a job in the first p[lace was because of my "landlords"`
`03:23.36`	`Aribeth`	`yes it is, so i will comply`
`03:23.49`	`BenUrban`	`aka parents`
`03:24.11`	`Aribeth`	`thigs are different in the south`
`03:24.18`	`bryjen`	`yeah, as you get older, they start making more crazy demands like that`
`03:24.21`	`orange`	`of course different states have different laws, but in Georgia, what you sign is the ultimate authority`
`03:24.42`	`Aribeth`	`orange, it sure is`
`03:25.19`	`Aribeth`	`it was my fault for not wearing proper clothing while working outside`
`03:25.29`	`BenUrban`	`then you better make damn sure you know what you're signing before you sign it`
`03:25.48`	`orange`	`yes, well, that should go without saying`
`03:25.51`	`Aribeth`	`well, one year from now yes`
`03:26.13`	`BenUrban`	`heh, i've heard enough horror stories about contracts to know to do that`
`03:26.14`	`Aribeth`	`im out of this house in April`
`03:26.29`	`orange`	`staying in the area?`
`03:26.52`	`Aribeth`	`orange, yes, just not this house with its bad contract`
`03:27.12`	`orange`	`finding a home in a neighborhood without an HOA will be pretty much imposssible`
`03:27.39`	`orange`	`but they're not all bad`
`03:27.53`	`Aribeth`	`i think tegan's mom's sub hasnt got one`
`03:28.04`	`Aribeth`	`and a house is for sale there`
`03:28.13`	`orange`	`which neighborhood?`
`03:28.27`	`Aribeth`	`off of pilgram mill`
`03:29.48`	`orange`	`an older one... close to the lake?`
`03:29.56`	`Aribeth`	`near 400`
`03:30.10`	`Aribeth`	`near the place`
`03:30.37`	`Aribeth`	`yes, its about 1991`
`03:32.35`	`Aribeth`	`no HOA there`
`03:33.39`	`orange`	`cool`
`03:34.04`	`Aribeth`	`this is a nice house, but the contract sucks`
`03:35.48`	`Aribeth`	`a neighbor saw us with the old mower and drove his tracter down to help out`
`03:35.57`	`orange`	`that's nice`
`03:36.02`	`Aribeth`	`very`
`03:36.32`	`Aribeth`	`the yard was almost dead when we moved in`
`03:37.17`	`Aribeth`	`now its green`
`03:37.52`	`orange`	`it's been fantastic lawn weather`
`03:38.13`	`Aribeth`	`i wasnt prapared for how fast things grow here`
`03:38.28`	`Aribeth`	`im used to mowing the lawn every 3 weeks`
`03:38.29`	`orange`	`if we wait even a week our lawn gets too long`
`03:38.37`	`Aribeth`	`yep`
`03:38.52`	`Aribeth`	`i need to get out there soon`
`03:39.15`	`orange`	`use sunscreen :-)`
`03:39.19`	`Aribeth`	`yep`
`03:39.50`	`Aribeth`	`im prone to burn easy though`
`03:40.11`	`Aribeth`	`my blood preasure meds make me burn fast`
`03:40.28`	`Aribeth`	`even with sun screen`
`03:44.39`	`Aribeth`	`orange, good luck with the move`
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`04:41.36`	`orange`	`Aribeth: belated thanks :-)`
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`10:03.13`	`ibunny`	`morning`
`10:03.26`	`Tupone`	`morning`
`10:04.56`	`ibunny`	`how are you today?`
`10:07.23`	`Tupone`	`bored :)`
`10:08.39`	`ibunny`	`get ops then`
`10:08.42`	`ibunny`	`:p`
`10:08.47`	`Tupone`	`:P`
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`10:09.08`	`ibunny`	`see i have to give up voice for you to get ops :D`
`10:09.21`	`Tupone`	`hehe`
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`10:20.23`	`CIA-3`	`BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/win32/VC71/zlib.vcproj: update dsp to reflect removed files`
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`12:18.33`	`option`	`hiya ^_^`
`12:26.27`	`RatOmeter`	`mmmmm, sourceforge is dinked today?`
`12:35.11`	`option`	`:)`
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`14:03.22`	`Grumbler`	`MostlyWater?`
`14:04.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`human body is 70% water`
`14:05.10`	`RedBaron2`	`yea, but if you throw that ballance off, say make it 75% you'll desolve..`
`14:10.02`	`TheRedBaron`	`no... you just have to pee like a race horse`
`14:10.20`	`RatOmeter`	`race horses pee more than others?`
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`15:28.58`	`TheRedBaron`	`jpa-, your silence is very reassuring`
`15:37.35`	`jpa-`	`sorry`
`15:39.06`	`Aribeth`	`ewww`
`15:39.10`	`RedBaron2`	`..`
`15:40.02`	`Aribeth`	`aww`
`15:40.04`	`TheRedBaron`	`.....`
`15:40.46`	`Aribeth`	`well, looks like mikeeusa is still whinning about his ban`
`15:41.20`	`menotume`	`geeesh, men !`
`15:41.26`	`Aribeth`	`ya`
`15:41.31`	`menotume`	`:D`
`15:42.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`it wasn't me meno... it was jpa-!`
`15:42.53`	`jpa-`	`what?`
`15:43.11`	`jpa-`	`did i do something wrong?`
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`15:48.33`	`Aribeth`	`yuck :P`
`15:48.41`	`TheRedBaron`	`mouth to mouth eh?`
`15:49.00`	`Aribeth`	`lol`
`15:49.35`	`RedBaron2`	`yech..`
`15:49.52`	`Aribeth`	`ewww`
`15:50.36`	`jpa-`	`RedBaron2: your brother is kinda cute, no? :)`
`15:50.55`	`RedBaron2`	`uhh..`
`15:51.00`	`TheRedBaron`	`jpa-, wrong person to aks.`
`15:51.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`*ask`
`15:52.27`	`jpa-`	`what do you have to wonder about me? i've been quite open IMO :)`
`15:52.28`	`TheRedBaron`	`aribeth: don't...`
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`15:52.49`	`Aribeth`	`:P`
`15:53.30`	`Aribeth`	`TheRedBaron, i must, i must`
`15:53.44`	`jpa-`	`Aribeth: just tell, what you wonder? :)`
`15:54.06`	`Aribeth`	`jpa-, your kissing everyone :P`
`15:54.20`	`jpa-`	`not everyone`
`15:54.43`	`jpa-`	`i'd never kiss CBG, for example`
`15:54.53`	`Aribeth`	`ok.`
`15:54.57`	`jpa-`	`:P`
`15:54.59`	`RedBaron2`	`yech..`
`15:55.01`	`Aribeth`	`got me there`
`16:08.30`	`Aribeth`	`looks like mikeeusa is forking bzflag`
`16:09.40`	`trepan`	`i'm expecting good things from that boy, hope he doesn't disappoint`
`16:09.52`	`Aribeth`	`heh`
`16:14.29`	`brlcad`	`trepan: hehe`
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`16:15.33`	`Pimpi`	`Birdie wishes to record 1vs1 matches, but since they take place on random map servers record/replay won't work`
`16:15.41`	`Aribeth`	`he will likely turn it into a pokymon game`
`16:16.05`	`Pimpi`	`so he'd like to see somebody make it work`
`16:16.05`	`trepan`	`those 1vs1 servers are patched?`
`16:16.12`	`Pimpi`	`yep`
`16:16.21`	`trepan`	`i can tell you what mods to make...`
`16:16.39`	`Pimpi`	`i won't have time for it either`
`16:16.42`	`Pimpi`	`:(`
`16:17.25`	`Pimpi`	`sure you're able to`
`16:17.49`	`trepan`	`simple calls to Record:stop(), saveBuffer(), and start()`
`16:18.07`	`trepan`	`do the stop and save after the match is over, and start after the map has been regen'ed`
`16:19.04`	`trepan`	`i'd save with a filename related to the player names, ex: TRB_vs_Bob.bzr, possibly with numeric suffixes for similar matches`
`16:20.23`	`Pimpi`	`i hoped to find a way saving the map with the record`
`16:20.38`	`trepan`	`ah, throw that into the filename as well then`
`16:20.55`	`Pimpi`	`maybe i take a look at it when i find time`
`16:21.11`	`trepan`	`TRB(3)_vs_Bob(10).02.bzr`
`16:21.55`	`Pimpi`	`but Birdie, as i said before, this will need testing and i won't throw this in while the chmpionship is running`
`16:22.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`dang, i knew it. that bob guy gets me everytime...`
`16:22.32`	`trepan`	`who's your daddy? Bob's your daddy!`
`16:22.35`	`Pimpi`	`maybe it's for the next one if this becomes a success`
`16:23.23`	`trepan`	`should be a fairly safe change, haven't had any problems with the recording feature`
`16:23.41`	`Pimpi`	`how can i remove any sticky cvs-flags from my workcopy?`
`16:24.13`	`Pimpi`	`thought it was up -A but they still seem to last`
`16:24.13`	`trepan`	`cvs up -A, iirc`
`16:24.16`	`menotume`	`update -A`
`16:24.21`	`menotume`	`:)`
`16:24.22`	`Pimpi`	`hm`
`16:25.21`	`menotume`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:25.21`	`menotume`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:34.19`	`Pimpi`	`yeah, -A worked, i made another mistake`
`16:34.20`	`CIA-3`	`BZFlag: 03pimpinella * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: use instead what we already have to prevent /countdown from giving players a state they shouldn't have`
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`16:36.11`	`Pimpi`	`maybe in sparta?`
`16:36.37`	`JeffM2501`	`she's gone?`
`16:36.38`	`JeffM2501`	`one sec`
`16:38.24`	`TheRedBaron`	`she had a date with spartacus`
`16:38.31`	`Aribeth`	`heh`
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`16:39.32`	`TheRedBaron`	`thelastspartan: how was the date?`
`16:39.33`	`TheLastSpartan`	`But how is that possible, TheRedBaron.`
`16:40.11`	`TheRedBaron`	`must have been a rought date :)`
`16:40.22`	`JeffM2501`	`I guess it must have been restarted`
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`18:51.41`	`Votex`	`i`
`18:51.43`	`Votex`	`hi`
`18:51.50`	`blast007`	`hello`
`18:52.20`	`Votex`	`i hope, you can help my... ;-)`
`18:53.06`	`Votex`	`i hope, you can help my... ;-)`
`18:53.18`	`blast007`	`~ask`
`18:53.18`	`ibot`	`methinks ask is Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Remember, we're all volunteers. Please don't /msg people without permission. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html`
`18:53.31`	`blast007`	`:)`
`18:53.31`	`Votex`	`i'm trying to get stats out of my bzflag server`
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`18:54.12`	`Votex`	`.... shit... cgi irc client ;-(`
`18:54.27`	`Votex`	`.... shit... cgi irc client ;-(`
`18:54.50`	`blast007`	`what are you wanting to use to get the stats, and what kind of stats? players and their scores?`
`18:55.15`	`Votex`	`anyone answered?`
`18:55.49`	`Votex`	`yes, players and their scores.... i want to fill a database with this stuff`
`18:55.50`	`blast007`	`not yet`
`18:56.23`	`blast007`	`one method would be using the info from my.bzflag.org`
`18:56.31`	`blast007`	`they have RSS feeds available at http://my.bzflag.org/rssgenerator.php`
`18:56.43`	`blast007`	`you can even specify a certain server to look at`
`18:57.50`	`Votex`	`mm....`
`18:58.42`	`blast007`	`there are also Perl and Python scripts in the source code misc/ directory`
`18:58.47`	`Votex`	`what i have to do on the server site?`
`18:58.59`	`blast007`	`are you using PHP?`
`19:00.10`	`blast007`	`what you have to do on the server side will depend how you implement it`
`19:00.48`	`blast007`	`it would be helpful if I know what scripting language you are using`
`19:01.00`	`Votex`	`yes, php would be nice... but the bzfquery.pl looks quite good`
`19:01.13`	`blast007`	`I have a PHP one: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1225277&group_id=3248&atid=303248`
`19:02.38`	`blast007`	`for the php one, you just include the file, and run bzfquery("someserver.com:5154"); and it returns stuff in a nice array`
`19:04.40`	`Votex`	`ok, an how do you use this query function to display the stats? or what are you doing with the function?`
`19:04.54`	`Votex`	`aaa, ok, thx`
`19:05.10`	`Votex`	`cgi script here is quite slow`
`19:05.16`	`blast007`	`ah :)`
`19:06.21`	`blast007`	`hmm, and I suppose that script could use a little trimming, cuz right now it would display a server list`
`19:07.06`	`blast007`	`but the functions you would keep are bzfquery1910, bzfquery0026, and bzfquery (and optionally bzfdump)`
`19:09.04`	`Votex`	`yes, it only shows a server list ;-)`
`19:09.49`	`blast007`	`it was based on an earlier script that showed the list too, but was updated to support the 2.0.x servers`
`19:12.24`	`Votex`	`an now? any idea?`
`19:13.25`	`blast007`	`if you pull those 3 functions out, throw them in a file, then include that file in your script, you should be able to use the bzfquery() function`
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`19:16.08`	`Votex`	`i used: echo bzfquery0026("xxx.org:5154"); but it only shows a global server list`
`19:16.12`	`Grumbler`	`ah, nice simple twm`
`19:16.36`	`Votex`	`the same with bzfquery()`
`19:16.56`	`blast007`	`1 sec`
`19:17.28`	`Grumbler`	`~literal gmm`
`19:17.28`	`ibot`	`"gmm" is "<reply> see bzfquery bzflag.galkire.net:5555"`
`19:18.01`	`Grumbler`	`bzfquery0026 xxx.org:5154`
`19:18.07`	`Grumbler`	`~bzfquery0026 xxx.org:5154`
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`19:21.23`	`Votex`	`its a php script.... bzfquery0026 xxx.org:5154 is not doing anything ;-)`
`19:22.09`	`blast007`	`for one thing, you don't run bzfquery0026 directly, you run bzfquery and it pick the right function to run`
`19:22.25`	`blast007`	`second, it doesn't return a value that you can just 'echo' out, it is an array of data`
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`19:22.48`	`blast007`	`if you want to do that, you can use bzfdump(bzfquery("blabla.org:5154"));`
`19:24.35`	`Votex`	`o0, ok, and how can i see, how the array is structured`
`19:28.15`	`blast007`	`I'm gonna update the script on the site, and include a basic example of how to use it`
`19:28.29`	`blast007`	`(taking out the server list part)`
`19:29.46`	`Votex`	`thx, that would be nice`
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`19:33.55`	`Votex`	`o0, i see... its online on sf`
`19:34.07`	`blast007`	`example script is coming now`
`19:35.17`	`blast007`	`there we go, done`
`19:35.46`	`Votex`	`:-)`
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`19:38.44`	`Votex`	`perfect man... perfect`
`19:38.52`	`blast007`	`:D`
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`19:40.52`	`SportyGal`	`hi highkaratekitty`
`19:41.00`	`blast007`	`heh`
`19:42.41`	`cosmos`	`Tue Jul 12 10:32:57 2005`
`19:42.42`	`cosmos`	`Reported by Abid: OK so u ban me cuz i swear to admin but they start it. Now igo to secretplace and i get them to come mess with u server asswholes!`
`19:42.56`	`brad2901`	`lol`
`19:42.58`	`blast007`	`o.O`
`19:43.29`	`cosmos`	`this is after he was spamming about becoming an admin on hepcat`
`19:47.18`	`cosmos`	`hrm, Timpson Texas causing probs too`
`19:49.34`	`cosmos`	`the forums got hacked?`
`19:49.37`	`cosmos`	`oh boy`
`19:49.49`	`Grumbler`	`hey`
`19:50.14`	`Grumbler`	`yeah, that kinda puts a question mark on every identified player`
`19:50.35`	`cosmos`	`just great`
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`19:51.36`	`SportyGal`	`tegan: hi`
`19:51.48`	`Tegan`	`hi SportyGal`
`19:52.01`	`menotume`	`the forum explooit has been fixed`
`19:52.15`	`cosmos`	`but how many passwords etc have they run off with`
`19:52.21`	`menotume`	`none`
`19:52.25`	`Grumbler`	`so, does that imply we should all go out and change our passwords`
`19:52.31`	`Grumbler`	`and are you sure`
`19:52.32`	`menotume`	`no - all is good`
`19:52.33`	`Aribeth`	`abid is a loser`
`19:52.40`	`menotume`	`Grumbler: nope :)`
`19:52.43`	`cosmos`	`another argument to not use open source :)`
`19:52.50`	`cosmos`	`abid causes probs every day it seems`
`19:52.53`	`menotume`	`was a script-kiddie`
`19:53.08`	`Grumbler`	`dang norweigians`
`19:53.28`	`Grumbler`	`~spell norweigian`
`19:53.43`	`Grumbler`	`thought that "i" looked a little funny`
`19:53.48`	`menotume`	`noggin, ya, that's it`
`19:55.23`	`Tegan`	`hi Birdie`
`19:55.31`	`menotume`	`?PULL!"`
`19:56.04`	`Birdie`	`hi tegan`
`19:56.10`	`Birdie`	`protect me from meno..`
`19:56.56`	`menotume`	`"Pull" is the expression a skeet-shooter uses to signal the luanching of a clay pigeon, in ord to shoot it mid-flight`
`19:57.06`	`blast007`	`ah, hehe`
`19:57.49`	`Aribeth`	`pull`
`19:57.54`	`Aribeth`	`:P`
`19:58.00`	`Birdie`	`lol`
`19:58.30`	`cosmos`	`i first saw skeet shooting on a cruise ship in 1984. one of the "guests" accidently shot a waiter on the other deck`
`19:58.37`	`cosmos`	`minor flesh wound of course`
`19:58.40`	`menotume`	`heh`
`19:58.47`	`menotume`	`not a very good shot`
`19:59.00`	`cosmos`	`not a very good idea to have skeet shooting off the back of the ship`
`19:59.03`	`menotume`	`is easier to hit at op of arch, not on the way down :)`
`19:59.06`	`cosmos`	`with people on either side`
`19:59.28`	`wizart`	`depends on if you shot over the shpi`
`19:59.30`	`wizart`	`ship`
`19:59.49`	`wizart`	`otherwise it's hard to hit something if you arer on the ocean.`
`20:00.55`	`cosmos`	`poor guy was delivering lunch, blammo shot in the side of the back`
`20:01.27`	`cosmos`	`flabergasted 90 year old cruise guest promptly has shotgun taken away`
`20:01.31`	`menotume`	`maybe he didn't like how his hamburger was cokked`
`20:01.32`	`Birdie`	`~Aribeth++`
`20:01.35`	`Birdie`	`for catching me`
`20:01.42`	`Aribeth`	`ty`
`20:02.08`	`cosmos`	`now all i read is how cruise ships poision people`
`20:10.46`	`cosmos`	`oh Abid was spamming us advertising "meoteorite server" too`
`20:14.24`	`cosmos`	`then acts surprised when banned after berating admins, calling the server lame, and cursing players`
`20:14.59`	`Tegan`	`~Abid--`
`20:15.22`	`Aribeth`	`drat`
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`20:23.46`	`cosmos`	`lunch time`
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`21:16.55`	`CBG`	`nope`
`21:17.42`	`Tupone`	`CBG: cvs worked ?`
`21:17.53`	`CBG`	`Tupone: yes. I love it :D`
`21:17.56`	`CBG`	`g2g`
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`21:56.01`	`kc9foh`	`terrible`
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`22:19.24`	`cosmos`	`heh, jessica simpson and that idiot from dude wheres my car talking about how pisspoor the original dukes of hazzard series/actors were`
`22:20.10`	`cosmos`	`a couple of thespians promoting their new 0 star remake`
`22:22.04`	`menotume`	`thespians? where ?`
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`22:22.22`	`Blue_Beard`	`Hello, peoples.`
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`22:23.38`	`Blue_Beard`	`>:)`
`22:23.55`	`menotume`	`hellos Blue_Beard`
`22:23.56`	`DTRemenak`	`:)`
`22:24.26`	`Blue_Beard`	`Heya, meno.`
`22:25.27`	`Blue_Beard`	`I see this place is as bustling as ever. =P`
`22:26.35`	`cosmos`	`its bad when your car catches on fire`
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`22:27.45`	`Blue_Beard`	`Car? I thought you all drove tanks? =)`
`22:28.22`	`cosmos`	`i had one 67 ford falcon that is now a pile of ashes`
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`22:32.03`	`Blue_Beard`	`Oh dear.`
`22:32.07`	`Blue_Beard`	`Look what I've done. =0`
`22:32.28`	`Blue_Jeans`	`"Be careful what you wish, because your wish might come true!"`
`22:32.32`	`Blue_Cheese`	`:D`
`22:32.46`	`menoblue`	`hehe`
`22:32.50`	`Blue_Beard`	`But it's not a bad wish. You all look so much cooler in blue. =P`
`22:33.11`	`menoblue`	`blue is good`
`22:33.18`	`Blue_Jeans`	`blue is cool`
`22:33.29`	`Blue_Beard`	`Blue is the color of my beard!`
`22:33.29`	`Blue_Cheese`	`blue is life`
`22:34.05`	`menoblue`	`Blue_Eyes: no comments ?`
`22:34.13`	`brad2901`	`:)`
`22:37.28`	`Blue_Eyes`	`yes the blue is great hehe`
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`22:47.03`	`blast007`	`hmm...that was odd`
`22:47.27`	`blast007`	`my connection seemed like it was totally down, yet this client didn't disconnect :/`
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`23:28.40`	`cosmos`	`oh no! i just spilled mt dew on my cat :(`
`23:30.15`	`Grumbler`	`hmm, spiff'er`
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`23:32.13`	`NeoTron`	`sticky. now you get the joy of cleaning said cat in shower/tub`
`23:32.14`	`jpa-`	`omg brad`
`23:32.20`	`NeoTron`	`or it'll keep sticking to you`
`23:32.22`	`jpa-`	`it is hot enough here already`
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