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| 01:16.28 | hardwire | hi |
| 01:16.30 | hardwire | jscal ios a goood thing |
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| 01:26.26 | hardwire | and might I say.. hunt mode is amazing |
| 01:29.27 | Aribeth | yes, but not everyone likes to be hunted, especialy by 2-3 players on the same team |
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| 02:50.32 | PKMOBILE | gosh its been so long since ive been on Internet... |
| 02:50.35 | PKMOBILE | how to work this thing... |
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| 04:10.01 | hardwire | I was going to say.. hunting on servers that disalow the radar is nice |
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| 10:12.46 | Tupone | hola |
| 10:15.45 | rkr | bonjour |
| 10:16.28 | rkr | aloha |
| 10:18.14 | _Manu_ | hola! :) |
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| 11:03.53 | webriot | haha |
| 11:03.57 | webriot | gotta hate that :-P |
| 11:11.58 | Pimpinella | only? |
| 11:12.02 | rkr | Yeah, only. |
| 11:12.23 | Pimpinella | :/ |
| 11:12.24 | rkr | I'd probably have more if I had /etc/daily.local scan /var/log/authlog... |
| 11:12.45 | rkr | Most of the offending IP numbers are for spammers, though. (^& |
| 11:13.26 | rkr | (I have about 13,000 IPF rules blocking sites for one reason or another. Even that's not too many, but the domain is a small domain...) |
| 11:16.01 | rkr | I remember checking /var/log/authlog one day and being *very* disturbed to see that someone came right in with a valid login. I figured I'd been hacked. |
| 11:16.15 | rkr | (Mostly, I'm the only person who logs in, especially to my mail server.) |
| 11:16.28 | Pimpinella | actually i have ca 80.000 log entrys a day from ca 7000 different hosts |
| 11:16.58 | rkr | Then I remembered that a few days before, I'd come in, from another location. I'd only kept that in short-term memory for the most part, so it had slipped my mind when I was scanning the logs. (^& |
| 11:17.35 | rkr | 80,000 distinct IP numbers, or 80,000 log entries? |
| 11:17.42 | Pimpinella | only a portion of them are atacks actrually, but if only 10% are, there're still 700 attacks a day |
| 11:18.12 | Pimpinella | 7000 distinct ip numbers |
| 11:18.26 | rkr | Ah, missed that. |
| 11:18.44 | rkr | Those are in /var/log/authlog? |
| 11:19.01 | rkr | (Or moral equivalent? (^&) |
| 11:19.14 | Pimpinella | no, they're sorted outon firewall level |
| 11:19.22 | rkr | Oh... |
| 11:20.47 | rkr | Um, let me refine what I said: Those are all on ssh connections? Or just on any random port? |
| 11:23.04 | rkr | (I think I average 500 to 1000 attempted connections per day on IP numbers that I've blacklisted. Not sure what percentage are people trying to hack my system or use it as a relay.) |
| 11:23.35 | Pimpinella | no, not all ssh |
| 11:24.22 | rkr | (I suspect that most of my ssh attackers are looking for backdoors. They often try a battery of names, each name just once, rather than systematically trying to break a single account.) |
| 11:24.53 | Pimpinella | yeah, the same here |
| 11:25.46 | Pimpinella | just trying a list of usernames, from 10 to 50 different names in it |
| 11:25.53 | webriot | yeah |
| 11:26.00 | webriot | thats what was happening with my FTP server |
| 11:26.09 | webriot | dumped it and got WASTE :-P |
| 11:26.40 | rkr | I think I get more than 40 or 50...though it's hard to be sure. A few repeat (they often make a couple of passes at "root" and the last set made about 3 passes at "admin"...) |
| 11:26.54 | rkr | "WASTE"? |
| 11:29.53 | webriot | its an open source P2P tool |
| 11:29.58 | webriot | you can host a private server |
| 11:30.16 | webriot | much like the Gnutella network and the Kazaa network |
| 11:30.17 | webriot | but cooler |
| 11:30.30 | rkr | Haven't ever touched Gnutella or Kazaa. (^& |
| 11:30.35 | webriot | good |
| 11:30.44 | webriot | then you wont be surprised if you try WASTE :-P |
| 11:31.16 | webriot | the key is, is that its just hard enough for dumb people to set up |
| 11:31.29 | rkr | (^& |
| 11:31.40 | webriot | so that usually means that they dont have horrible files shared and poorly tagged music :-P |
| 11:32.50 | rkr | All my music comes off of CDs that I own. Except for some tapes and one truly free production called Dragonmere. (^& |
| 11:33.34 | webriot | thats a good way to do it |
| 11:33.41 | rkr | (The tapes I own, too. I haven't tried hard to transfer them to computer because I have to do more work to get them into my computer...) |
| 11:33.58 | webriot | but I'd rather have people buy the CD's, rip them, then give them to me :-) |
| 11:34.29 | webriot | uugh, its 6:34 in the morning.. I spose its time for bed |
| 11:34.33 | webriot | have fun |
| 11:34.40 | rkr | (^& I figure if I like the music enough to make a copy, I'll pay for it. |
| 11:34.58 | rkr | (But with the prices of CDs, I've beeing buying a lot less the past few years...) |
| 11:35.08 | rkr | Take care. Sleep well. Good morning. |
| 11:38.47 | rkr | Hm. WASTE's licensing is documented as 'unclear legal status: AOL claims Nullsoft did not release the software at all, while others regard it as licensed under the GPL". |
| 11:57.26 | wizart | that's pretty bad |
| 11:58.18 | wizart | the problem seams that the author worked for aol when he was writing that program. |
| 12:08.46 | rkr | Ah. And he signed one of those agreements whereby his work belonged to AOL while he was employed by AOL? |
| 12:10.59 | rkr | (Even work he did "on his own time"...) |
| 12:13.43 | rkr | Apropos of the channel: I think that "stepped" ramps (made of lots of little boxes) are less problematic than ramps made of meshes... |
| 12:15.50 | rkr | Well, time to see about fixing the old laptop. (^& |
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| 14:10.25 | rkr | Hye, any GNU/LINUX types hanging around and awake? |
| 14:11.02 | rkr | I'll try another forum...(^& |
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| 15:12.48 | CBG | Does anyone know why "WhiteDragon" is disallowed on the bb? |
| 15:33.26 | rkr | Maybe the chat-filter is picking up on "drag" and thinks that it's offensive? (^& |
| 15:35.21 | CBG | Heh. lol rkr. |
| 15:35.43 | CBG | I'm sure there are other players with "DRAGon" in their name. |
| 15:38.20 | rkr | THe filter seems to be temperamental, however... |
| 15:38.29 | CBG | hmm... ok. |
| 15:38.33 | CBG | Well, i must be off. |
| 15:38.36 | rkr | I once was unable to say the word "may" in some context. It was filtered. Never figured out why... |
| 15:38.37 | rkr | (^& |
| 15:38.47 | CBG | lol. cya |
| 15:38.59 | rkr | (I doubt that it's "drag" that's the problem, but...I honestly don't trust the filter...) |
| 15:39.01 | rkr | Take care. |
| 15:42.49 | DTRemenak | CBG: I just created an account with u/n WhiteDragon. No problems. |
| 15:42.59 | DTRemenak | now I have to delete it :S |
| 15:47.18 | rkr | And CBG missed the remark anyway since he'd already logged out. (^& |
| 15:48.01 | DTRemenak | crazy. cz didn't get his logout message... |
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| 16:10.22 | BearPerson | hmm... seems the spawn effect code isn't perfect |
| 16:10.42 | BearPerson | iirc, it uses the team color, even when you have CB... shouldn't it use the tank's color? |
| 16:10.51 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 16:10.57 | DTRemenak | ~pw |
| 16:10.57 | ibot | patches welcome is probably a common response by maintainers of Open Source products. It's roughly means "We don't have much time on our hands, so if you write that feature and send it to us we will likely roll it in. If you don't have the time to write it, we don't either. Stop asking for it." |
| 16:10.59 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 16:11.33 | DTRemenak | if you don't want to send a patch, at least file a bug report so we don't forget about it :) |
| 16:13.29 | DTRemenak | should be a fairly trivial patch, actually |
| 16:13.34 | BearPerson | yeah |
| 16:14.05 | BearPerson | almost not worthy a "patch", just a 'line XY, "foo", should rather be "goo"' |
| 16:14.19 | DTRemenak | possibly slightly more involved than that :) |
| 16:15.11 | BearPerson | yeah, they have a "team" attribute, not a "color"... |
| 16:16.06 | DTRemenak | other effects use the color also, you should try to get the actual tank color from the Player...I think it's kept around |
| 16:16.11 | DTRemenak | I've gotta run, be back in a few hours |
| 16:16.22 | BearPerson | see you, and thatnks for the info :) |
| 16:16.32 | DTRemenak | thanks for the report |
| 16:17.09 | BearPerson | np, copied it from a /report by ruskie :) |
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| 16:35.42 | ruskie | need more explain??? |
| 16:35.47 | BearPerson | nope |
| 16:35.56 | BearPerson | I'm already a-fixin' |
| 16:36.49 | BearPerson | just a bit of work digging out every place that adds effects with team number |
| 16:37.40 | ruskie | just noticed it when I was colorblind and a guy spawned in front of me and the spawn effect was tem colored |
| 16:37.50 | BearPerson | yeah, it goes by team |
| 16:38.35 | BearPerson | I just hope the color[] in Player.h is accurate also when colorblind |
| 16:40.06 | tupone | I dislike the effects ... and I disabled it in my config. So I cannot see any bugs on it :/ |
| 16:41.31 | trepan | tupone: ditto, except for the rico effect ;) |
| 16:41.48 | BearPerson | spawn is actually tactically rather neat |
| 16:41.51 | tupone | what is the rico effect ? |
| 16:41.53 | BearPerson | if you disable it locally |
| 16:42.16 | trepan | alpha'ed puddle texture when shots bounce off of walls |
| 16:42.36 | tupone | aww |
| 16:44.37 | tupone | Spawn effect when your flag has been captured, is a killer for the spawning tanks ... cannot see anything |
| 16:44.49 | BearPerson | yeah, that's one downside |
| 16:45.11 | ruskie | who cares... that's why radar is for |
| 16:45.13 | tupone | even if you disable your own :/ |
| 16:45.23 | BearPerson | but when you're out in the field and can immediately spot if the guy spawning to your right is red or blue |
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| 16:46.16 | tupone | The thing I would like to have is a blip on the radar for the guy who is talking :) |
| 16:46.42 | BearPerson | hmm, true |
| 16:46.58 | ruskie | I'd like a blip for ppl who have team flags... |
| 16:47.52 | tupone | Think is enough to put a coloured team instead of the white one |
| 16:48.20 | tupone | or is already coloured ? |
| 16:48.30 | ruskie | already coloured |
| 16:48.30 | tupone | don'tremember now |
| 16:48.44 | ruskie | but it's hard to see a red guy carying a blue flag... looks like all red |
| 16:48.53 | ruskie | blue guy carying red flag is immediatley noticable |
| 16:49.30 | tupone | a bigger team flag then ... like a battle flag |
| 16:50.14 | ruskie | anything to make it more noticable would be nice |
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| 16:50.35 | ruskie | also default ground color of green grass should be revised to be a bit more green... blue flag can get lost on map... |
| 16:51.04 | tupone | ~pw |
| 16:51.05 | ibot | hmm... patches welcome is a common response by maintainers of Open Source products. It's roughly means "We don't have much time on our hands, so if you write that feature and send it to us we will likely roll it in. If you don't have the time to write it, we don't either. Stop asking for it." |
| 16:51.23 | tupone | :) |
| 16:51.42 | Birdie | for all windows experts: my pc found a trojan horse, whatever i try i cant remove it, i cant find the files although i know the name of the file and the place they SHOULD be, tried with "searching" and normal looking to the map but no succes, if i scan again it still find a trojan horse, how to remove it? any suggestions? |
| 16:52.03 | ruskie | which trojan? |
| 16:52.06 | ruskie | psguard? |
| 16:52.10 | Birdie | (without formatting) |
| 16:52.21 | Birdie | hmm the name |
| 16:52.55 | Birdie | it just said 'found a trojan hourse" and it gave the file where it was in (tmp file) |
| 16:53.11 | Birdie | didnt said the name of the horse |
| 16:53.21 | ruskie | use a decent OS... problem solved |
| 16:53.50 | Birdie | thats not really a help for the moment |
| 16:54.16 | ruskie | here's the best thing... format c: && reinstall && repeat until infinity |
| 16:54.42 | ruskie | you could try scaning with CA eTrust AV |
| 16:54.42 | Birdie | no suggestions without formatting?:( |
| 16:54.52 | Birdie | ugh whats that |
| 16:55.08 | ruskie | a very nice antivirii app |
| 16:56.25 | tupone | Birdie: what is the name of the file? Is in the Internet temporary? |
| 16:56.36 | Birdie | in temp yes |
| 16:56.47 | Birdie | TMPD2E.tmp |
| 16:57.21 | Birdie | removed all my temp internet files, cookies, everything but didnt helped |
| 16:58.26 | tupone | I'm not so skilled in windows, but I understood that temp file are in virtual directory, mix of a lot of directory, too avoid linear search on all the file I guess. That could be the reason why you are not able to find. But as I said I'm not a guru :/ |
| 16:58.58 | ruskie | virtual dir???? |
| 16:59.15 | Birdie | but is there anyway to find the virtual directory? |
| 16:59.33 | tupone | dunno how to say and what they are :/ |
| 16:59.41 | ruskie | this is windows we're talking about... |
| 16:59.55 | Birdie | virtual = they are there, but they arent? |
| 17:00.00 | Birdie | to say it difficult:s |
| 17:00.37 | ruskie | Birdie, get that av scanner and try with that one to remove it... it might wwork it might not... |
| 17:00.51 | ruskie | there's a demo version 30 day full usage |
| 17:01.34 | rkr | I assume that what tupone means is that there many (small) temp dirs that are scattere, but WIN32 can also somehow represent them as one big dir for convenience. |
| 17:02.04 | rkr | If you search in the right (small) dir, it is much faster, then, since MS-Windows/MS-DOS uses a braindead filesystem... |
| 17:02.27 | rkr | You might be able to find it from the Start menu "Find" item. Not sure; I don't do MS-Windows anymore than I can help. |
| 17:02.40 | Birdie | ya i did the find item thing allready |
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| 17:05.32 | rkr | Well, my solution would be to install a different OS and stop worrying. (^& |
| 17:05.40 | ruskie | mine as well |
| 17:06.00 | rkr | (Speaking of which, that's what I'm doing for my laptop...(^&) |
| 17:06.39 | ruskie | now all I'd like to do is get LinuxBIOS or something like it on this box... |
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| 17:08.43 | tupone | Birdie: there is some application/driver you need to run in windows that force you to stay there? |
| 17:09.00 | BearPerson | Birdie, did it say the name of the trojan anywhere? or just "a trojan"? |
| 17:09.09 | Birdie | just trojan |
| 17:09.26 | BearPerson | and the file isn't there by the time you look? |
| 17:09.29 | Birdie | tupone : not really |
| 17:09.34 | Birdie | no |
| 17:09.46 | BearPerson | or does simply removing it not help? |
| 17:09.58 | Birdie | i cant find the file |
| 17:10.06 | Birdie | and the virusscanner itself cant remove it |
| 17:10.08 | BearPerson | how up-to-date is your virus scanner? |
| 17:10.15 | Birdie | very up to date |
| 17:10.20 | Birdie | norhton anti virus |
| 17:10.26 | BearPerson | hmm... this win XP? |
| 17:10.30 | Birdie | yep |
| 17:10.44 | BearPerson | hmm... ctrl-alt-del to get the task manager, and sort by CPU usage |
| 17:11.15 | BearPerson | anything taking up almost all of it, or skipping up near the top and then vanishing again? |
| 17:11.21 | Birdie | yes |
| 17:11.28 | Birdie | DNETC.EXE |
| 17:11.57 | Birdie | everything 0 except that one is 99 |
| 17:12.09 | BearPerson | find it |
| 17:12.15 | BearPerson | don't delete it though |
| 17:12.37 | Birdie | pc is searching for it |
| 17:12.51 | BearPerson | once you've found it, try uploading it to http://www.kaspersky.com/scanforvirus |
| 17:12.58 | Birdie | oh i see the program |
| 17:13.05 | Birdie | its like the first program that was on my pc.. |
| 17:13.07 | Birdie | years ago.. |
| 17:13.39 | Birdie | that one is no danger |
| 17:13.45 | BearPerson | well, upload it anyway :) |
| 17:14.30 | Birdie | uploading |
| 17:14.49 | Birdie | yep its ok |
| 17:15.31 | BearPerson | hmm... why would it use 99% cpu? |
| 17:15.52 | Birdie | hard to explain, the program is from a friend and he uses pc to search some kind of code |
| 17:16.02 | Birdie | google: Belgian Moo Farm |
| 17:16.28 | Birdie | maybe i wrote that wrong |
| 17:16.40 | BearPerson | ah |
| 17:17.04 | BearPerson | what browser are you using? |
| 17:17.08 | Birdie | IE |
| 17:17.53 | BearPerson | bad idea. |
| 17:17.56 | Birdie | i know |
| 17:18.02 | Birdie | my dad loves it..thats why |
| 17:18.13 | BearPerson | hmm |
| 17:18.26 | BearPerson | keeping up on the windows updates regularly? |
| 17:18.30 | Birdie | yep |
| 17:18.36 | BearPerson | did you scan your hard drive completely lately? |
| 17:18.39 | Birdie | but i wanted to do a live update today |
| 17:18.39 | BearPerson | for viruses |
| 17:18.47 | Birdie | and it gave some pop up |
| 17:18.50 | Birdie | wich i didnt liked |
| 17:18.57 | BearPerson | hmm? |
| 17:18.57 | Birdie | scanned and found the horse |
| 17:19.05 | Birdie | yep scanning regulary |
| 17:19.10 | Birdie | virusscan up to date |
| 17:19.14 | BearPerson | what was the popup? |
| 17:19.19 | Birdie | regulary removing spyware |
| 17:19.30 | Birdie | well..my dad was on pc, he said it was a msn pop up |
| 17:19.39 | BearPerson | you regularly /getting/ spyware? |
| 17:19.51 | Birdie | what is "regulary" and "much" |
| 17:20.03 | Birdie | i use ad aware |
| 17:20.07 | BearPerson | you said "regularly removing spyware" |
| 17:20.11 | Birdie | and i have like 2 things he finds every 5 days |
| 17:20.20 | Birdie | i just mean i check regulary for it and remove it |
| 17:20.30 | BearPerson | oh-kay |
| 17:20.45 | Birdie | see i'm a "good user" and i do everything i should:) |
| 17:20.56 | BearPerson | so every 5 days >=2 new things get on your computer? any idea from where? |
| 17:21.09 | Birdie | dunno |
| 17:21.18 | Birdie | but 2 isnt so much |
| 17:21.25 | BearPerson | 2 is 2 too much for me |
| 17:21.29 | Birdie | propably from some internet site when i"m searching something |
| 17:21.39 | Birdie | (no porn:) ) |
| 17:21.53 | BearPerson | nothing is supposed to be capable of installing stuff to my computer without my knowledge and permission |
| 17:22.14 | BearPerson | maybe it came with "fun stuff" like a custom screensaver... |
| 17:22.18 | Birdie | but i'm normally not some one with troubles, i havent formatted in 2 years and hardly had any trouble with my pc |
| 17:22.42 | Birdie | but it should have come from the last week |
| 17:22.50 | Birdie | but i hardly did something on my pc the last week |
| 17:24.12 | menotume | Eeeeep, no CIA |
| 17:24.22 | menotume | good, then i won't have to hide right away |
| 17:24.25 | tupone | I wonder if bzflag is transporting malware |
| 17:29.01 | menotume | is anyone else able to get to cia.navi.cx ? |
| 17:38.01 | *** join/#bzflag NoVaZuR (~novazur@ALamentin-101-1-10-247.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:38.06 | NoVaZuR | hi |
| 17:38.37 | NoVaZuR | forums are down ? global identification too ? |
| 17:38.42 | BearPerson | menotume, 502 |
| 17:38.55 | menotume | thx, BearPerson |
| 17:39.07 | BearPerson | forums up from my end |
| 17:39.07 | tupone | hi NoVaZuR |
| 17:39.34 | NoVaZuR | impossible to get my.bzflag.org/bb for me |
| 17:39.59 | menotume | list server is fine |
| 17:40.16 | NoVaZuR | ah... |
| 17:40.41 | BearPerson | got global ID fine too, just 10 secs ago |
| 17:40.44 | *** join/#bzflag bEe_ (ebronnik@plg.academ.org) |
| 17:40.47 | bEe_ | hi |
| 17:41.02 | menotume | nhi bee |
| 17:41.07 | NoVaZuR | ip changed recently ? and my dns wouldn't be updated ? |
| 17:41.10 | menotume | eeeep |
| 17:41.37 | bEe_ | how can i learn bzflag? i always dead :( |
| 17:41.37 | BearPerson | 69.28.129.167 |
| 17:41.39 | menotume | ~dnslookup my.bzflag.org |
| 17:41.44 | NoVaZuR | the same |
| 17:42.00 | NoVaZuR | surprising... |
| 17:43.10 | NoVaZuR | since yesterday, it doesn't work for me... |
| 17:44.46 | NoVaZuR | is it a IP you can ping ? |
| 17:45.09 | tupone | yes |
| 17:45.17 | NoVaZuR | ah ! |
| 17:45.24 | NoVaZuR | ping doesn't work for me |
| 17:46.04 | menotume | NoVaZuR: your internet is down |
| 17:46.11 | NoVaZuR | ping 69.28.129.167 |
| 17:46.12 | NoVaZuR | PING 69.28.129.167 (69.28.129.167) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 17:46.12 | NoVaZuR | --- 69.28.129.167 ping statistics --- |
| 17:46.12 | NoVaZuR | 12 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 10997ms |
| 17:46.18 | menotume | :) |
| 17:46.27 | tupone | tracepath ? |
| 17:46.31 | NoVaZuR | ;-) And I write here by mind ;-) |
| 17:46.38 | menotume | hehehe |
| 17:47.22 | NoVaZuR | traceroute stop after : 69.28.172.54 |
| 17:47.38 | menotume | bad route |
| 17:48.25 | NoVaZuR | 12 ge1-5.fr1.lax.llnw.net (69.28.172.54) 199.938 ms * 170.670 ms |
| 17:48.25 | NoVaZuR | 13 * * * |
| 17:48.25 | NoVaZuR | 14 * * * |
| 17:48.25 | NoVaZuR | 15 * * * |
| 17:48.25 | NoVaZuR | 16 * * * |
| 17:48.28 | NoVaZuR | 17 * * * |
| 17:49.10 | NoVaZuR | what does that mean ? |
| 17:49.17 | menotume | dunno |
| 17:49.20 | NoVaZuR | héhé |
| 17:49.38 | menotume | my traceroute ends at 69.28.172.54, succesful |
| 17:49.50 | NoVaZuR | ah |
| 17:49.59 | *** part/#bzflag bEe_ (ebronnik@plg.academ.org) |
| 17:50.00 | NoVaZuR | traceroute 69.28.129.167 ?? |
| 17:50.13 | menotume | ooops :p |
| 17:50.19 | NoVaZuR | tupone, idea ? |
| 17:50.35 | tupone | I don't have that address is my tracepath |
| 17:50.43 | NoVaZuR | ah ! |
| 17:51.11 | tupone | tracepath 69.28.172.146 ? |
| 17:51.15 | NoVaZuR | have that before : |
| 17:51.19 | NoVaZuR | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.20 | NoVaZuR | 10 ge1-31.fr1.ord.llnw.net (193.251.250.238) 135.920 ms 137.152 ms 154.627 ms |
| 17:51.20 | NoVaZuR | 11 ge2-13.fr1.sjc.llnw.net (69.28.172.5) 172.254 ms 170.914 ms 193.612 ms |
| 17:51.45 | tupone | I enter from new york |
| 17:52.26 | NoVaZuR | same problem with 69.28.172.146 |
| 17:52.34 | NoVaZuR | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.35 | NoVaZuR | 10 ge1-31.fr1.ord.llnw.net (193.251.250.238) 134.552 ms 140.128 ms 142.840 ms |
| 17:52.35 | NoVaZuR | 11 ge2-13.fr1.sjc.llnw.net (69.28.172.5) 177.207 ms 172.443 ms 177.808 ms |
| 17:52.35 | NoVaZuR | 12 ge2-1.fr1.lax.llnw.net (69.28.172.109) 184.025 ms * 170.428 ms |
| 17:52.35 | NoVaZuR | 13 * * * |
| 17:53.11 | tupone | tracepath 193.251.242.154 ? don't paste |
| 17:53.15 | menotume | it's a bad router, near the listserver. Usually fixed quickly |
| 17:53.16 | NoVaZuR | I don't enter by the good door, I'll try by window :-D |
| 17:54.05 | NoVaZuR | oh, I realise that I didn't use tracepath but traceroute |
| 17:54.23 | NoVaZuR | tracepath give me : |
| 17:54.26 | tupone | I think is the same, all work with ttl |
| 17:54.30 | NoVaZuR | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:54.30 | NoVaZuR | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:54.35 | Pimpinella | ~menotume++ |
| 17:54.40 | NoVaZuR | but no error with tracepath |
| 17:55.16 | NoVaZuR | but it seems to stop to my ip, no more |
| 17:55.48 | NoVaZuR | ok menotume, did'nt saw your answer |
| 17:56.04 | NoVaZuR | but, I wait for yesterday ;-) not really quick |
| 17:56.10 | menotume | oh |
| 17:56.13 | menotume | not good |
| 17:56.18 | NoVaZuR | at all ;-) |
| 17:56.49 | NoVaZuR | but I'm used with problem with my ISP here :-( |
| 17:57.32 | NoVaZuR | menotume and tupone, you're two in US ? |
| 17:57.39 | menotume | yes, east coast |
| 17:57.44 | NoVaZuR | ok |
| 17:58.01 | NoVaZuR | nobody from france here to test ? |
| 17:58.18 | NoVaZuR | (i'm not really in france but french west indies, but my ISP is french) |
| 17:58.40 | menotume | NoVaZuR: do you get the same problem with: ping secretplace.us ? |
| 17:58.57 | tupone | NoVaZuR: officially Italy is still independent |
| 17:58.59 | NoVaZuR | i'll try |
| 17:58.59 | menotume | you probably should |
| 17:59.43 | NoVaZuR | no ping |
| 18:00.10 | NoVaZuR | and my dns doesn't know it ! |
| 18:00.15 | NoVaZuR | what is the IP plz ? |
| 18:00.46 | NoVaZuR | tupone: officialy ?? ;-) |
| 18:00.55 | tupone | :) |
| 18:01.01 | tupone | I'm in Italy |
| 18:01.23 | NoVaZuR | yes I remember that |
| 18:01.50 | NoVaZuR | I can't forget, you helped me too much ;-) |
| 18:01.59 | NoVaZuR | plz, ip of secreteplace.us ? |
| 18:02.07 | NoVaZuR | secretplace.us |
| 18:02.18 | tupone | ~dnslookup secretplace.us |
| 18:02.26 | NoVaZuR | oh thanks |
| 18:02.44 | NoVaZuR | no ping |
| 18:02.58 | NoVaZuR | all us is closed for me ? |
| 18:03.01 | menotume | there's another ip, but i don't know what it is |
| 18:03.03 | NoVaZuR | war is open ? |
| 18:03.36 | tupone | NoVaZuR: what was your nick while playing bzflag ? |
| 18:03.41 | NoVaZuR | I know that americans doesn't like frenchies a lot, but... |
| 18:03.45 | NoVaZuR | chris |
| 18:04.06 | NoVaZuR | why ? |
| 18:04.12 | tupone | you have to check if you were banned |
| 18:04.30 | tupone | but I don't think so |
| 18:04.31 | NoVaZuR | I played friday |
| 18:04.49 | NoVaZuR | how to check if I can join my.bzflag.org ? ;-) |
| 18:05.13 | NoVaZuR | even with my browser |
| 18:05.38 | tupone | so, you are able to join that, but not with ping ? |
| 18:05.51 | NoVaZuR | sorry, I can'T |
| 18:05.55 | tupone | ahh |
| 18:06.02 | NoVaZuR | mistake |
| 18:06.37 | NoVaZuR | but I don't think I can be banned |
| 18:06.45 | NoVaZuR | except my ip may be |
| 18:06.53 | NoVaZuR | I have a dynamic one |
| 18:07.18 | menotume | Is possible that your ISP has blocked that ip |
| 18:07.20 | NoVaZuR | it will change in 10mn, I'll can see |
| 18:07.36 | tupone | can you pm me the entire tracepath |
| 18:07.46 | NoVaZuR | my isp, no, I don't think.. I can join all but my.bzflag.org |
| 18:07.59 | NoVaZuR | tracepath ? |
| 18:08.11 | NoVaZuR | I gave you all what I have |
| 18:08.12 | tupone | private message your tracepath to me |
| 18:08.18 | NoVaZuR | traceroute maybe ? |
| 18:08.25 | tupone | from the start to the end |
| 18:15.59 | *** join/#bzflag novazur_ (~novazur@ALamentin-101-1-10-227.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:16.20 | novazur_ | sorry, my ip changed has broken my irc |
| 18:16.43 | novazur_ | can you read me tupone ? |
| 18:17.18 | novazur_ | somebody to answer ? |
| 18:17.27 | BearPerson | boo |
| 18:17.31 | novazur_ | thanks |
| 18:18.26 | novazur_ | sad, I won't play bzflag anymore... |
| 18:18.49 | novazur_ | your tahnks will be safe ! |
| 18:19.02 | novazur_ | great news for you |
| 18:19.10 | rkr | Why not play bzflag anymroe? |
| 18:19.16 | rkr | s/mroe/more/ |
| 18:20.50 | novazur_ | because I can't reach my.bzflag.org anymore |
| 18:21.27 | rkr | Oh...and you need to do that in order to authenticate? |
| 18:21.40 | rkr | How long have you been unable to reach my.bzflag.org? |
| 18:21.47 | novazur_ | yesterday |
| 18:22.00 | rkr | It's still possible that that's a transient problem.... |
| 18:22.06 | novazur_ | I played friday without problem |
| 18:22.17 | novazur_ | yes |
| 18:22.58 | novazur_ | ;-) |
| 18:23.00 | rkr | You're not behind a firewall, or anything, I guess? |
| 18:23.09 | novazur_ | Yes, I am |
| 18:23.21 | novazur_ | but I don't see any problem in it |
| 18:23.29 | rkr | And you've checked to be 100% sure that it's not your firewall blocking you? |
| 18:23.34 | rkr | How about 200% sure? (^& |
| 18:23.39 | Pimpinella | you can't even access the whole site? |
| 18:23.43 | novazur_ | sure 100%, not, never :-) |
| 18:23.54 | novazur_ | www.bzflag.org, I can access |
| 18:24.24 | rkr | Is it a store-bought, off-the-shelf firewall? Or a PC you set up running some variety of UNIX for a firewall? |
| 18:24.28 | novazur_ | but no my.bzflag.org |
| 18:24.47 | novazur_ | a PC, with a linux, gentoo |
| 18:24.54 | novazur_ | my gateway |
| 18:25.28 | novazur_ | i'll try something... |
| 18:25.53 | rkr | THe nice thing about PCs-as-firewalls is that you can fiddle with them...(^& |
| 18:26.41 | novazur_ | bad news |
| 18:26.58 | rkr | Bad news? A polar bear is waiting in the next room and is going to devour you? |
| 18:27.07 | novazur_ | I tried with my precedent configuration, because I updated it recently, but I have the same problem |
| 18:27.18 | novazur_ | :-D |
| 18:27.37 | rkr | Hm... |
| 18:28.00 | rkr | Can you do anything like tcpdump -n -i <interface> on the firewall and watch packets going in/out? |
| 18:28.07 | novazur_ | impossible to ping 69.28.129.167 |
| 18:28.15 | novazur_ | ok |
| 18:28.24 | rkr | (if you ssh into your firwall, careful to grep out the interface you're coming in on...(^&) |
| 18:28.52 | novazur_ | :-( no tcpdump on it |
| 18:29.23 | novazur_ | but, I explained all to tupone, my traceroute start, but stop at : |
| 18:29.27 | Pimpinella | maybe it's a routing problem |
| 18:29.31 | rkr | Maybe under a different name? tcpdump is what NetBSD uses, but your LINUX distribution may use a different name... |
| 18:29.34 | Pimpinella | had the same once |
| 18:29.38 | novazur_ | yeah, probably |
| 18:29.39 | rkr | (Or totally different program...) |
| 18:29.53 | novazur_ | # traceroute 69.28.129.167 |
| 18:30.00 | novazur_ | [...] |
| 18:30.05 | novazur_ | 11 ge1-13.fr1.sjc.llnw.net (69.28.172.1) 170.990 ms 171.476 ms 170.284 ms |
| 18:30.05 | novazur_ | 12 ge2-1.fr1.lax.llnw.net (69.28.172.109) 168.945 ms 170.359 ms 170.294 ms |
| 18:30.05 | novazur_ | 13 * * * |
| 18:30.05 | novazur_ | 14 * * |
| 18:30.28 | rkr | Maybe my.bzflag.org has blacklisted your IP by accident. Can you email their admin from another machine? |
| 18:31.16 | novazur_ | but.. why whith another machine ? |
| 18:31.34 | rkr | When I do that traceroute, it goes through 69.28.172.146 as the last hop. |
| 18:31.53 | rkr | With another machine to get away from the problematic IP number... |
| 18:31.56 | novazur_ | yes, as tupone told me |
| 18:32.01 | menotume | for email ? |
| 18:32.26 | novazur_ | but, if it is my ISP that block it, my ISP has not this IP, I don't understand |
| 18:32.32 | rkr | 69.28.172.109 is about 3 or 4 hops back from my.bzflag.org... |
| 18:32.36 | novazur_ | ah no, ok |
| 18:32.48 | novazur_ | blacklisted by my.bzflag.org ! ok |
| 18:32.57 | novazur_ | no, I have only one connection |
| 18:33.00 | rkr | Hm...I kind of doubt you'd get that far out if your ISP was blocking you... |
| 18:33.11 | DTRemenak | there are currently no blocked ips by my.bzflag.org at the firewall or server levels |
| 18:33.15 | novazur_ | but, my ip changed 10mn ago, and I have the same problem... |
| 18:33.18 | rkr | You don't have an alternate email account? E.g., with Yahoo or work or school? |
| 18:33.40 | novazur_ | yes, I have... |
| 18:33.47 | rkr | DTRemenak: It's blocked about 3 or 4 hops before my.bzflag.org. |
| 18:33.49 | novazur_ | have you got their mail ? |
| 18:33.58 | rkr | Inside the llnw.net domain. |
| 18:34.16 | DTRemenak | rkr: so how exactly will emailing a my.bzflag.org admin help with that? |
| 18:34.20 | Pimpinella | weird, look at this hop: 15 ge1-2-0.jr1.phx3.llnw.net (69.28.172.146) 186.136 ms ge0-2-0.jr1.phx3.llnw.net (69.28.172.142) 184.660 ms ge1-1-0.jr1.phx3.llnw.net (69.28.139.250) 185.394 ms |
| 18:34.30 | DTRemenak | you'd need to email the llnw.net admins to get anything done |
| 18:34.32 | rkr | DTR: I didn't realize how far back it was blocked when I recommended that...(^& |
| 18:34.35 | novazur_ | not 3 or 4 jumps but 12 |
| 18:34.49 | rkr | No, 12 hops from you, but 3 or 4 from my.bzflag.net. |
| 18:35.01 | rkr | The hop-numbers on traceroute are hops from you. |
| 18:35.14 | novazur_ | ok |
| 18:35.43 | rkr | On my system, 69.28.129.167 is 15 hops out. The one that stops you is 12 or 13 from me. |
| 18:35.47 | novazur_ | I have to you that I don't understand anything in your writes with DTRemenak :-( |
| 18:35.58 | novazur_ | so resume for me what have I to do plz ;-) |
| 18:36.08 | rkr | (The last one you see is 12 hops from me.) |
| 18:36.25 | DTRemenak | there's nothing you can do right now really :( |
| 18:36.31 | novazur_ | ok |
| 18:36.37 | novazur_ | just wait ? |
| 18:36.46 | novazur_ | pry ? |
| 18:36.52 | rkr | You could try to write the admins at llnw.net. Maybe try going to http://www.llnw.net and see if they have a web-site/contact info there. |
| 18:37.01 | novazur_ | ok |
| 18:37.43 | novazur_ | can't reach it with my browser :-) |
| 18:38.04 | novazur_ | whois ? |
| 18:38.17 | rkr | That's a good one. (^& |
| 18:38.22 | rkr | Try whois llnw.net |
| 18:38.37 | rkr | I get a contact in the U.S. Phoenix, Arizona. |
| 18:39.07 | novazur_ | domain@limelightnetworks.com |
| 18:39.08 | novazur_ | ? |
| 18:39.30 | rkr | (nod) |
| 18:39.55 | rkr | Or you could call them, or write them a letter on dead-tree-material. |
| 18:39.56 | novazur_ | that's the only email I can see |
| 18:40.06 | novazur_ | ;-) |
| 18:40.12 | novazur_ | or take plane to see them ? |
| 18:40.18 | rkr | That, too. |
| 18:40.21 | rkr | Or walk. |
| 18:40.23 | *** join/#bzflag CBG (~Matthew@cpc3-stme1-5-0-cust91.cdif.cable.ntl.com) |
| 18:40.27 | novazur_ | no, island |
| 18:40.29 | rkr | You have many options, now. (^& |
| 18:40.31 | novazur_ | water around |
| 18:40.54 | novazur_ | What I have to tell him by email ? what information to give him ? |
| 18:41.47 | rkr | keep it brief and polite. Maybe show him the traceroute and say that others, from other systems, confirm traceroutes to the same target can go through his system. Ask if he's blocking you for some reason and what you can do to straighten it out. |
| 18:42.38 | novazur_ | ok, but as you could saw, it will be very difficult with my poor english ;-) |
| 18:42.42 | rkr | He's not under any obligation to do anything for you, but if he isn't a personal enemy of yours... |
| 18:42.52 | novazur_ | :-D |
| 18:43.18 | novazur_ | I don't know anybody in phoenix ;-) |
| 18:43.32 | rkr | Mention that English isn't your native language. The domain was registered in 2001, so the admin/tech should grasp that the Internet is world-wide and not worry about it too much. |
| 18:43.58 | novazur_ | ok.. thank you for all, I'll do that immediatly |
| 18:44.13 | novazur_ | really thanks |
| 18:44.15 | rkr | (Your English is certainly good enough for that, I think; don't worry about minor grammar things. (^&) |
| 18:44.17 | rkr | Good luck. |
| 18:44.22 | novazur_ | for all time spent for me |
| 18:44.31 | novazur_ | ;-) thanks |
| 18:44.33 | rkr | (Of course...mentioning that English isn't your native language is still worth doing...) |
| 18:44.34 | rkr | (nod) |
| 18:44.46 | novazur_ | ok, bye ! |
| 18:44.47 | rkr | I'm just sitting here waiting for something to compile on an old, old laptop... |
| 18:44.55 | rkr | Bye. I hope you get it resolved. |
| 18:44.56 | novazur_ | héhé |
| 18:45.17 | novazur_ | thanks, I has been very pleasant to speak with you |
| 18:45.26 | rkr | (bow) |
| 18:45.31 | novazur_ | ciao ! |
| 18:45.48 | rkr | au revoir, even. |
| 18:51.15 | CBG | Are any bzbb admins online now? |
| 18:51.51 | CBG | I believe the person called "WhiteDragon" still has not resolved the problem of registering their name on the forums. |
| 18:53.37 | DTRemenak | CBG: worked for me |
| 18:53.53 | DTRemenak | I registered a user named "WhiteDragon" successfully, then deleted it |
| 18:54.01 | CBG | DTRemenak: Someone posted on the GU forums that they could not globally register it. |
| 18:54.09 | DTRemenak | they are mistaken :) |
| 18:54.17 | DTRemenak | unless they have some other problem |
| 18:54.24 | CBG | This is a screenie of what it said: http://herrmann-koenigsberg.de/disallowed.bmp |
| 18:54.42 | novazur_ | email done |
| 18:55.04 | novazur_ | may be CBG has the same problem than me :-) |
| 18:56.40 | DTRemenak | CBG: I just tried with exactly the variables he had written, and go "This email is in use by another user" and "This username is already in use" |
| 18:56.45 | DTRemenak | so I guess it worked ;) |
| 18:57.06 | CBG | Ok... Well, just reporting what I was told. :) |
| 18:57.09 | CBG | Thanks :) |
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| 19:03.59 | DTRemenak | dang, novazur left |
| 19:06.30 | *** part/#bzflag WonderMop (~Andy@dcn242-33.dcn.davis.ca.us) |
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| 19:26.16 | Birdie | here i am again...i (thought) i found where it was, i know what forces the troubles, i cancelled the cpu, deleted the program wich made the troubles from the pc, but it STILL gives the same trojan harse when i scan again although i removed it:( |
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| 19:31.40 | BearPerson | Birdie, what was what forced the trouble? |
| 19:31.48 | BearPerson | did you ever get a name for the thing? |
| 19:31.49 | Birdie | the one you told me:) |
| 19:32.07 | Birdie | it was that program that used so much CPU |
| 19:32.15 | Birdie | DNETC.exe |
| 19:32.20 | Birdie | (if i remember good) |
| 19:33.12 | Birdie | i scanned it with the site you gave me, no virus |
| 19:33.20 | Birdie | i scan with my northon and it does give one |
| 19:37.03 | menotume | Birdie: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.hllw.bymer.html |
| 19:37.09 | menotume | instructions on how to remove |
| 19:37.11 | Birdie | bearperson you know dutch right? |
| 19:37.29 | BearPerson | kinda, yeah |
| 19:37.55 | Birdie | this is for you than :http://www.distributed.net/trojans.php.nl |
| 19:37.58 | BearPerson | yeah, dnetc.exe is installed by one a bit older virus, that's why some of the virus scanners see it as such |
| 19:38.01 | Birdie | ty menotume |
| 19:38.07 | menotume | :) |
| 19:38.16 | BearPerson | dnetc.exe is not a virus by itself |
| 19:38.30 | Birdie | ya i found that out now:s |
| 19:38.33 | Birdie | how stupid |
| 19:38.38 | Birdie | northon sees it as one |
| 19:38.46 | BearPerson | just rarely found in the wild without the virus with it |
| 19:38.55 | menotume | Birdie: Do you know google ? |
| 19:39.28 | Birdie | i do.. |
| 19:41.05 | menotume | it took all of 30 seconds to find the info :) |
| 19:41.29 | BearPerson | well, the problem is |
| 19:41.33 | BearPerson | the info doesn't help us |
| 19:42.00 | menotume | why not ? |
| 19:42.08 | BearPerson | because it is not the problem |
| 19:42.22 | menotume | did u check the registry ? |
| 19:42.34 | BearPerson | that virus is not the one on his box. |
| 19:42.48 | menotume | and, dnetc CAN be a virus by itself |
| 19:42.52 | BearPerson | he got the dnetc.exe by other means, not by that virus |
| 19:42.57 | menotume | there are 2 varuatiobs |
| 19:43.21 | BearPerson | if I understood him right, he installed it himself |
| 19:43.30 | Birdie | right |
| 19:43.35 | Birdie | i have connection with a friend of me |
| 19:43.43 | Birdie | (why the high udp) |
| 19:44.02 | Birdie | but since northon sees it as a horse (i dont like) i want it removed |
| 19:44.11 | BearPerson | so the problem is, we're getting temp files sometimes identified as viruses |
| 19:44.18 | BearPerson | trojans rather |
| 19:44.47 | menotume | well, if you want distributed.net, don't just delete it |
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| 19:45.34 | menotume | "The payload copies the Dnetc client and modifies the Win.ini file." |
| 19:48.12 | menotume | Birdie: just check your win.ini file to see if it's really there |
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| 20:05.31 | bz6323 | hello? |
| 20:06.27 | BearPerson | hello. |
| 20:07.02 | bz6323 | Is it possible to log player to player messages from a server? |
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| 20:11.10 | BearPerson | as? the server or the player? |
| 20:12.49 | bz6323 | as the server, I've had complaints from some of the kids that they get harrased over private messages. |
| 20:13.25 | bz6323 | instead of turning it off, can I log then and cut this behaviour out whithout spoiling th fun |
| 20:13.26 | BearPerson | hmm |
| 20:13.47 | BearPerson | with the right debug value they get logged for sure |
| 20:14.43 | bz6323 | so just set a logfile and the right -d? |
| 20:14.47 | menotume | bz6323: add "-d -d -d" to the bzfs command line |
| 20:15.44 | menotume | bz6323: it will log to stdout by default, just redirect it |
| 20:16.08 | bz6323 | Thank you :) |
| 20:16.14 | menotume | np |
| 20:17.32 | menotume | yw, CNG :) |
| 20:17.38 | menotume | ehh ,CBG |
| 20:18.16 | webriot | menotume: isnt it -ddd now? |
| 20:18.33 | menotume | dunno, -d -d -d works for me |
| 20:18.39 | webriot | ah |
| 20:25.24 | BearPerson | okay, pw it was... |
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| 20:28.29 | BearPerson | I wonder if anyone's going to do anything with the "welcome" patch for effects in team colors... |
| 20:28.43 | BearPerson | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1227908&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 20:41.55 | purple_cow | might be a bit of a wait |
| 20:41.58 | purple_cow | he's moving today |
| 20:42.22 | BenUrban | so he was completely inert yesterday? |
| 20:42.40 | BenUrban | that explains a bit... |
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| 21:03.32 | hardwire | hmmphmphmm |
| 21:03.43 | hardwire | the ps2 controller works really well w/ bz |
| 21:03.49 | hardwire | I love how precise the analog inputs are |
| 21:04.35 | hardwire | http://sourceforge.net/projects/bzflag-console/ |
| 21:04.35 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:04.39 | hardwire | I wonder how far thats gotten |
| 21:05.03 | hardwire | nowhere |
| 21:05.04 | hardwire | oh well |
| 21:05.59 | Birdie | hmm i think i saw him here before, some one know el3ment? |
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| 21:10.14 | mugwump84 | anybody home? |
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