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| 00:15.00 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: can you still get cheap hardware? |
| 00:17.33 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:17.53 | purple_cow | any chance you can find a cheapo nvidia card w/tv out, preferably fanless? |
| 00:17.56 | JeffM2501 | well I nows the same guy that can get the same stuff |
| 00:18.00 | Grumbler | is that like the chris rock store? |
| 00:18.04 | JeffM2501 | agp? |
| 00:18.15 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 00:20.24 | JeffM2501 | price range? |
| 00:22.19 | purple_cow | as low as possible, really :) |
| 00:22.27 | purple_cow | seems like all the online retailers don't even sell the old stuff |
| 00:22.43 | JeffM2501 | I'm showing like MXs for like 41 |
| 00:22.59 | JeffM2501 | FXs for like 55ish |
| 00:23.12 | JeffM2501 | I may have a PCI MX at home |
| 00:23.53 | purple_cow | PCI doesn't work, unfortunately |
| 00:23.55 | JeffM2501 | my friend has gone home |
| 00:24.08 | JeffM2501 | so all I can do is look at his site right now :( |
| 00:24.09 | purple_cow | only have 2 PCI ports, and those are used |
| 00:24.13 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: k |
| 00:24.27 | JeffM2501 | hmm jaton may have some cheapies |
| 00:24.44 | JeffM2501 | ohh good lord |
| 00:24.48 | JeffM2501 | triden blade................... |
| 00:25.02 | JeffM2501 | Jaton Trident Blade 3D 9880 PCI 8MB SGRAM Retail |
| 00:25.35 | JeffM2501 | let me look around when I get home |
| 00:25.39 | JeffM2501 | I may have something you can just have |
| 00:25.59 | JeffM2501 | I asume SVHS out is fine? |
| 00:27.15 | purple_cow | that's what i need |
| 00:27.36 | JeffM2501 | http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/simprod.asp?pid=9007&ad=pwatch |
| 00:28.05 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 00:28.06 | JeffM2501 | dono if he can beat that |
| 00:28.39 | JeffM2501 | a FX5200 would run ya like 45$ |
| 00:28.55 | JeffM2501 | http://www.gearxs.com/gearxs/product_info.php?products_id=4356 |
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| 00:30.12 | JeffM2501 | I have the voodoo5 |
| 00:30.19 | JeffM2501 | I think it has tv out :) |
| 00:31.13 | JeffM2501 | here ya go |
| 00:31.13 | JeffM2501 | http://www.pcpartsohio.com/BookDetail.aspx?item_id=412 |
| 00:31.18 | JeffM2501 | $26 |
| 00:31.26 | JeffM2501 | GF2MX4000 |
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| 00:51.16 | Aribeth | hi Sporty |
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| 01:03.56 | SC | hi ari |
| 01:15.40 | Aribeth | SportChick, how are things? |
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| 01:55.14 | SportChick | Aribeth: fine - you guys getting settled? I haven't seen tegan yet |
| 01:55.38 | Aribeth | yes, finaly getting settled in |
| 01:56.50 | Aribeth | tegan is still setting up her computer |
| 01:57.25 | Aribeth | oh drat, here we go with the can i be an admin |
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| 03:39.56 | dgate | no right mouse)? |
| 03:40.34 | dgate | Howto shoot guided missiles on a Mac |
| 03:44.22 | blast007 | wow, dgate was sure patient ;) |
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| 04:56.53 | LouMan | hi all - i am trying to check out the latest version from cvs and i don't know what modulename to use - can anyone help? |
| 04:57.07 | MeBigFatGuy | try bzflag? |
| 04:57.23 | LouMan | it says no such directory |
| 04:57.38 | MeBigFatGuy | you can look at the web cvs interface |
| 04:57.56 | MeBigFatGuy | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/ |
| 04:58.01 | MeBigFatGuy | that lists the modules |
| 04:58.14 | LouMan | did that - tried everything and still gives me 'no such directory' - hmmm |
| 04:58.26 | MeBigFatGuy | what is your whole command? |
| 04:58.37 | LouMan | k, hold on... |
| 04:59.35 | LouMan | d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P bzflag |
| 05:00.42 | MeBigFatGuy | seems right to me |
| 05:00.53 | LouMan | let me try once more - brb |
| 05:05.02 | LouMan | ok i feel stupid - forgot to put cvs in front of command *LouMan blushes - thanks for the help anyway! |
| 05:05.49 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 05:07.36 | LouMan | i am a noob at linux :( and a simple compile gives me trouble sometimes - persistence will prevail tho - again, thx |
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| 05:16.38 | TimRiker | or cvs.bzflag.org |
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| 05:32.08 | noyb | ~ |
| 05:32.11 | noyb | woops |
| 05:32.32 | noyb | ~bzfquery eblah.no-ip.org |
| 05:32.45 | noyb | uh, oh... |
| 05:43.06 | noyb | does the bzfquery attempt to connect with tcp? |
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| 05:46.35 | noyb_ | ghost noyb |
| 05:46.38 | noyb_ | duh |
| 05:51.14 | purple_cow | ohh man |
| 05:51.14 | purple_cow | what a holiday |
| 05:51.42 | noyb | ~bzfquery eblah.no-ip.org |
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| 06:56.12 | noyb | ~bzfquery eblah.no-ip.org |
| 06:58.26 | noyb | ~bzfquery eblah.no-ip.org |
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| 07:37.51 | noyb | I'm curious to find out if my server has really bad lag from the outside... anyone want to try it for me? eblah.no-ip.org:5154 |
| 07:39.33 | ruskie | sure |
| 07:39.47 | noyb | 261... ouch |
| 07:40.09 | noyb | bad network link I guess. I had 11 on the lan. |
| 07:40.22 | noyb | thank you. |
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| 09:51.39 | jolie | CBG: you should hear this song |
| 09:51.46 | jolie | and hi |
| 09:51.47 | CBG | okies |
| 09:51.50 | CBG | hi :) |
| 09:51.56 | jolie | redy to catch? |
| 09:52.27 | jolie | is soooo kewl |
| 09:52.28 | CBG | got it :D |
| 09:52.30 | jolie | heh |
| 09:53.22 | CBG | Check this crazy fruit out: http://www.worth1000.com/cache/gallery/contestcache.asp?contest_id=2853&display=photoshop |
| 09:53.42 | jolie | awesome ... speed i have... |
| 09:59.41 | CBG | ~blinky Birdie for not being grateful for what he has |
| 09:59.42 | ibot | ACTION slaps Birdie for not being grateful for what he has on the head with a three-eyed fish named Blinky |
| 10:00.10 | Birdie | you would talk different with my connection:) |
| 10:00.46 | jolie | CBG: listen :D |
| 10:01.05 | CBG | can't :( I have to go get for my prom |
| 10:01.15 | CBG | I will later... cya all |
| 10:01.20 | jolie | k |
| 10:02.13 | Birdie | name and title? |
| 10:03.33 | jolie | hum? |
| 10:03.48 | Birdie | the name and the title of the song? |
| 10:03.50 | jolie | juanes - camisa negra |
| 10:04.06 | Birdie | ugh i dunno it:( |
| 10:04.10 | Birdie | spanish? |
| 10:05.59 | jolie | yep |
| 10:06.01 | jolie | manu manu |
| 10:06.07 | jolie | <3<3 |
| 10:06.10 | _Manu_ | jolie, jolie guapa ;) |
| 10:06.18 | jolie | hola bonito , conoces juanes? |
| 10:06.19 | Birdie | hey many |
| 10:06.23 | _Manu_ | pozi |
| 10:06.26 | Birdie | manu |
| 10:06.30 | jolie | y te gusta? |
| 10:06.35 | _Manu_ | si |
| 10:06.42 | jolie | x-) |
| 10:06.45 | jolie | y pereza? |
| 10:07.08 | jolie | necesito mas musica asi.. tonces si sabes me dices :D |
| 10:07.15 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 10:23.03 | BearPerson | _Manu_, around? |
| 10:23.16 | _Manu_ | no :) |
| 10:25.59 | ruskie | :) |
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| 10:27.49 | ruskie | naahhhh |
| 10:28.01 | Birdie | i finally know his age:) |
| 10:28.04 | ruskie | :) |
| 10:28.09 | _Manu_ | today age++ |
| 10:28.10 | bz6412 | birdie |
| 10:28.17 | bz6412 | i want to speak with you |
| 10:28.18 | Birdie | was a pain to find out:( so hard |
| 10:28.27 | bz6412 | i want to speak only with birdie |
| 10:28.37 | ruskie | bz6412, so /query birdie |
| 10:28.40 | ruskie | sheesh |
| 10:28.58 | Birdie | yugi is in the house:( |
| 10:29.53 | ruskie | lol |
| 10:29.58 | bz6412 | birdie i have a question to you |
| 10:29.59 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 10:30.04 | jolie | ok whats the deal with this yugi dude? |
| 10:30.09 | bz6412 | so let me speak to you |
| 10:30.15 | Birdie | you allready said 5 times you have a question, why dont you ask? |
| 10:30.19 | bz6412 | i cannot |
| 10:30.22 | Birdie | ... |
| 10:30.31 | _Manu_ | hi yugi! |
| 10:30.44 | Birdie | oh manu is happy to see his friend:) |
| 10:30.49 | Tupone | _Manu_: your birthday? |
| 10:30.55 | _Manu_ | Tupone, yep :) |
| 10:31.02 | jolie | Tupone: tupito mio! |
| 10:31.09 | Tupone | :) happy birthday to you |
| 10:31.14 | bz6412 | when i write to birdie, it says birdie is away |
| 10:31.17 | bz6412 | hyppy birthday |
| 10:31.21 | _Manu_ | Tupone, thanks.. now a new dedade start :/ |
| 10:31.23 | bz6412 | happy birthday |
| 10:31.27 | _Manu_ | thanks |
| 10:31.37 | Birdie | au how could i forget:( he said it a week ago:( |
| 10:31.41 | Tupone | jolita mia |
| 10:31.44 | Birdie | happy bday manu! |
| 10:31.52 | _Manu_ | Birdie, thanks :) |
| 10:31.55 | Birdie | another number:) |
| 10:31.59 | Birdie | a big change |
| 10:32.12 | _Manu_ | yep... sun's cycle plus one.. heh |
| 10:32.48 | Birdie | i finally know how much sun cycle is:) |
| 10:33.00 | ruskie | atleast I think |
| 10:33.23 | _Manu_ | ruskie, must go to school.. |
| 10:34.11 | ruskie | why? |
| 10:34.26 | _Manu_ | for learning what's the sun cycle |
| 10:34.39 | _Manu_ | how many years is |
| 10:35.00 | Birdie | i didnt knew myself:( |
| 10:35.05 | Tupone | sun cycle is about 10 years? |
| 10:35.21 | _Manu_ | a tip: http://starryskies.com/articles/dln/11-97/leonids.html |
| 10:35.29 | Tupone | I know heart cycle arounf the sun is about 1 year |
| 10:35.35 | Tupone | earth even |
| 10:35.37 | _Manu_ | Tupone, remember Jesus age? ;) |
| 10:35.51 | Tupone | ah .. I gotcha |
| 10:35.53 | Tupone | keep safe |
| 10:35.57 | Tupone | he died |
| 10:36.19 | _Manu_ | not only the earth moves.. also the sun moves.. |
| 10:36.25 | _Manu_ | and rotate |
| 10:37.30 | ruskie | _Manu_, ohh you mean the ~11year sun cylce :) |
| 10:46.00 | Birdie | some one interested in funny comments of yugi? |
| 10:52.25 | _Manu_ | Birdie, is yugi making you mad? |
| 10:56.15 | jolie | _Manu_: oooooooOOOOOooh |
| 10:57.05 | Pimpi | happy birthday my friend |
| 10:57.12 | _Manu_ | thanks pimpi :) |
| 10:58.18 | Birdie | bz6412 only you are against me bz6412 what sould i do without gu bz6412 i respect you |
| 10:58.50 | Birdie | and his end: |
| 10:58.51 | Birdie | bz6412 so, then let me banned, however you want, i like playing and you do not |
| 10:59.09 | _Manu_ | yeah i imagined it |
| 10:59.28 | _Manu_ | that's why he usually don' acting bad at vipers |
| 10:59.38 | Birdie | how did you banned him there? hostban or not? |
| 11:00.25 | _Manu_ | he is not bannedm because he continues changing his ip.. |
| 11:00.34 | _Manu_ | after talking him.. he is now good |
| 11:01.00 | Birdie | he promise me always he will be good, i never unbanned him, he keeps coming back, but also keeps annying people:( |
| 11:01.08 | Birdie | annoying * |
| 11:01.29 | _Manu_ | i think he likes making you mad |
| 11:01.42 | Birdie | he likes to annoy me |
| 11:01.44 | Birdie | thats a difference:) |
| 11:01.51 | _Manu_ | yes |
| 11:02.12 | Birdie | he complains in 50 text now when he was here that he want to be unbanned, although he can just go back with a new ip |
| 11:02.19 | _Manu_ | that's his fun against you |
| 11:02.51 | Birdie | :( |
| 11:03.00 | Pimpi | i feel pity for him, i don't think he intentionally picks on our nerves, he's just too ... maybe stupid |
| 11:03.24 | Birdie | i dunno about intentional |
| 11:03.44 | Birdie | the things he did(mostly in the past, now he is just annoying) were intentional imho |
| 11:03.54 | _Manu_ | well.. really months ago.. he was tking like h*** |
| 11:03.56 | Pimpi | and it seems he's at least a reasonable player |
| 11:04.19 | _Manu_ | but now he is good.. perhaps some times a little annoying.. but not bad at all |
| 11:04.21 | Pimpi | yeah, because he sucked |
| 11:04.42 | Pimpi | his onlyhance to kill anybody was tk |
| 11:05.06 | _Manu_ | the reverse for redsoxfan?? he started good and switched bad |
| 11:05.45 | Birdie | redsoxfan isnt as annoying as yugi |
| 11:05.56 | BearPerson | I think he was on viper half an hour ago |
| 11:06.24 | _Manu_ | i said bad.. not annoying :) |
| 11:06.24 | Pimpi | redsox made even much more trouble than yugi |
| 11:06.47 | Birdie | but redsox is much "smarter" than yugi |
| 11:06.57 | Pimpi | mention the name redsox to cosmos and imagine his bloos pressure going up ;) |
| 11:07.03 | Pimpi | blood |
| 11:07.07 | _Manu_ | hehe i know |
| 11:07.19 | Birdie | if you tell him yugi ,its the same:) |
| 11:07.35 | _Manu_ | may be cosmos is also old ;) |
| 11:07.56 | _Manu_ | errrr as young as me |
| 11:07.59 | Birdie | lol look who is saying it |
| 11:08.27 | Pimpi | dunno about his age |
| 11:08.27 | Birdie | the one where both numbers changed today |
| 11:08.27 | Pimpi | oh, ic |
| 11:08.27 | Birdie | cosmos, above 40, even 50 i think |
| 11:08.35 | _Manu_ | Birdie, you mean in decimal base no? ;) |
| 11:08.42 | Birdie | lol manu:) |
| 11:08.49 | Birdie | i only talk decimal;) |
| 11:09.12 | Pimpi | no, i don't think he's above 40 |
| 11:09.21 | Pimpi | naybe octal though |
| 11:09.33 | Birdie | cosmos is older than you think |
| 11:09.39 | Birdie | (i think) |
| 11:10.05 | _Manu_ | cosmos is out there since ever :) |
| 11:10.06 | Pimpi | argh, you can't type when you have a <1 year old in one of your arms... |
| 11:10.22 | Birdie | :) |
| 11:10.26 | Pimpi | well... |
| 11:10.39 | Birdie | he is sleeping in your arms? |
| 11:11.00 | _Manu_ | Pimpi, sweet :) |
| 11:11.01 | Pimpi | would love him to do so |
| 11:11.51 | Pimpi | actually he keeps trying to type too |
| 11:12.01 | Birdie | lol |
| 11:12.07 | Birdie | i hope you learned him nice words so far:) |
| 11:12.29 | Birdie | hm one year old..what is he saying so far? |
| 11:12.31 | Pimpi | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:13.14 | _Manu_ | Pimpi, so.. can't you type with your feets fingers :) |
| 11:13.46 | _Manu_ | it's so usefull.. hehe |
| 11:13.46 | jolie | heh |
| 11:13.51 | Birdie | my feets fingers are to big to do that, i would always type 2 letters in once |
| 11:13.52 | jolie | i know how that is ^_^ |
| 11:13.54 | Birdie | well at least one.. |
| 11:14.08 | Pimpi | k, two kids now... |
| 11:14.10 | jolie | sleeping baby in ur arms |
| 11:14.39 | Birdie | and typing with the feets fingers?:) |
| 11:28.34 | jolie | hey _Manu_ really nice music |
| 11:28.38 | jolie | thxs ^_^ |
| 11:30.59 | _Manu_ | :) i'm glad it likes you |
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| 11:33.08 | orchid | happy b-day _Manu_ |
| 11:33.42 | _Manu_ | orchid, thanks :) |
| 11:38.10 | [dmp] | does roger/Auto-pilot use random to determine what to do? Or do it always do the same action in a given situation? |
| 11:38.37 | orchid | !seen patlabor221 |
| 11:38.37 | menotume | seems random to me, at least a little |
| 11:38.37 | guu | orchid: patlabor221 was last seen here 16 weeks, 1 day, 12 hours, 39 minutes, and 1 second ago saying: <Patlabor221> totaly |
| 11:38.59 | menotume | ~hapbir _Manu_ |
| 11:39.19 | ibot | ACTION sings a variant of Happy Birthday (to avoid royalty fees) to _Manu_ |
| 11:39.29 | _Manu_ | menotume, thanks :) |
| 11:39.34 | menotume | :) |
| 11:41.35 | [dmp] | _Manu_: Happy Birthday from me too :) |
| 11:41.52 | _Manu_ | [dmp], thanks :) |
| 11:42.26 | [dmp] | menotume: Same here. Im just wondering, if i want to measure network performance, it would be nice to generate the same trafic every time - so it was easier to measure |
| 11:42.38 | menotume | ahhh |
| 11:43.14 | [dmp] | i guess i could replace the auto-pilot with another one, and use that |
| 11:43.53 | menotume | yes. perhaps you can set a known randon seed for each |
| 11:44.27 | menotume | or, just write your own 'random' function, something very simple |
| 11:46.18 | [dmp] | yeah. Preditable random :) |
| 11:46.22 | menotume | right |
| 11:46.50 | menotume | an array of 10 prest values, just cylce thru |
| 11:47.10 | [dmp] | damn, im really looking forward to next semester. Gonna be interesting one. Hard to stay focused on current exams :) |
| 11:47.21 | menotume | hehe |
| 11:47.55 | Pimpi | again, build is ready, only need to copy. Just need to add world weapons |
| 11:48.17 | Pimpi | anybody working on it is welcome... |
| 11:53.06 | BearPerson | newviper.bzw ? |
| 11:54.27 | _Manu_ | that's old version i think |
| 11:54.41 | _Manu_ | there is a new one where i fixed the teleporters bug |
| 11:55.15 | _Manu_ | new map is newviper1.bzw |
| 11:55.32 | BearPerson | hmm.. only a newviper1.bin there... :/ |
| 11:56.10 | _Manu_ | yes.. i can send you if you want |
| 11:56.40 | BearPerson | sure |
| 11:59.01 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, check your mail |
| 11:59.13 | BearPerson | checking |
| 11:59.38 | BearPerson | thanks |
| 11:59.45 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 12:00.57 | BearPerson | hmm... lol... |
| 12:01.11 | BearPerson | is the same as the newviper.bzw from balin.pimpi.org |
| 12:01.35 | BearPerson | wanted to do a diff to see what was changed to fix the teleports... ;-) |
| 12:01.54 | _Manu_ | well perhaps pimpi updated it keeping the old name |
| 12:02.00 | BearPerson | probably |
| 12:02.00 | _Manu_ | but the server is running this one |
| 12:02.25 | _Manu_ | i also can give you the old one for diff ;) |
| 12:02.32 | BearPerson | why not :) |
| 12:06.20 | BearPerson | hmm... I suppose I'll have to make the world weapons for the two sides seperate... |
| 12:06.30 | _Manu_ | no.. heh |
| 12:06.53 | BearPerson | I mean, can't put them into the group with red base and blue base, can I? |
| 12:07.08 | BearPerson | they have to get their eventteam value from somewhere |
| 12:07.25 | _Manu_ | really dunno, but probably it is |
| 12:23.06 | ruskie | :) |
| 12:27.59 | jolie | _Manu_: ... i like estopa |
| 12:28.19 | BearPerson | hmm |
| 12:28.26 | BearPerson | weapon trigger type:flagcap unknown |
| 12:29.01 | ruskie | isn't it oncap? |
| 12:29.02 | BearPerson | nm |
| 12:29.05 | BearPerson | right |
| 12:29.12 | _Manu_ | jolie, i told you :) |
| 12:29.13 | ruskie | :) |
| 12:29.30 | ruskie | :) |
| 12:29.45 | jolie | _Manu_: ROCKS!!!! |
| 12:29.48 | BearPerson | unknown object parameter "eventteam" - skipping |
| 12:30.17 | ruskie | BearPerson, where will you put the sws? (imho everything inside the moat and to top of spike should be swed) |
| 12:30.26 | BearPerson | looking into that |
| 12:30.56 | BearPerson | man bzw says it's OnCap... but it's oncap |
| 12:31.48 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, changes are quick |
| 12:32.51 | Birdie | _Manu_ : do you know this song: Los Inquietos - Quiereme, Besame, Amame.mp3 |
| 12:33.05 | _Manu_ | no :/ |
| 12:33.12 | _Manu_ | or I think so |
| 12:34.27 | Birdie | do you like it? |
| 12:34.34 | Birdie | if it is you think it is |
| 12:34.50 | ruskie | lol |
| 12:35.38 | BearPerson | hmm |
| 12:35.52 | BearPerson | appears to almost work... |
| 12:35.56 | Pimpi | http://balin.pimpi.org/newviper.bzw is aleady updated |
| 12:35.57 | ruskie | O.o |
| 12:36.12 | Pimpi | whats runnign now |
| 12:36.29 | BearPerson | 62.104.113.47:5154 |
| 12:36.42 | BearPerson | sorry, too lazy to set up a dyndns yet |
| 12:37.02 | ruskie | connecting |
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| 12:43.24 | CBG | Is it just me who wants to permanently ban M1A2AbramsTank from the bb? |
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| 12:49.05 | orchid | !dict chores |
| 12:49.07 | guu | orchid: No definition for 'chores' could be found. |
| 12:49.19 | orchid | ~spell chores |
| 12:50.39 | orchid | !dict chore |
| 12:50.41 | guu | orchid: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Chore \Chore\, n. A choir or chorus. [Obs.] --B. Jonson. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Chore \Chore\, v. i. [imp. & p. p. {Chored}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Choring}.] To do chores. [U. S.] [1913 Webster]; gcide: Chore \Chore\ (ch[=o]r), n. [The same word as char work done by the day.] A small job; in the pl., the regular or daily light work of a (4 more messages) |
| 12:51.06 | CBG | Its like a job you have to do every day... Like "Walking the dog each morning" is a chore |
| 12:51.39 | orchid | no thats a pleasure, cleaning my kitchen, bathroom and doing my laundry is a chore :) |
| 12:51.43 | BearPerson | Pimpi, around? |
| 12:51.50 | Pimpi | here |
| 12:51.56 | BearPerson | what's shockwave size on viper? |
| 12:51.56 | Birdie | orchid: you do that every day?:) |
| 12:52.10 | orchid | evey few days |
| 12:52.10 | Pimpi | default, lemme see |
| 12:52.34 | BearPerson | 60 |
| 12:53.11 | Pimpi | ack |
| 12:54.11 | menotume | !seen learner |
| 12:54.12 | guu | menotume: learner was last seen here 23 hours, 49 minutes, and 27 seconds ago saying: <learner> it sets the players ip address, which gets sent to admins when admins join |
| 12:54.21 | menotume | he's hiding from me :) |
| 12:55.25 | orchid | hes gone to North Virginia |
| 12:55.31 | menotume | ahhhhh |
| 12:55.34 | menotume | thx |
| 12:55.58 | menotume | he's REALLY hiding from me |
| 13:01.33 | BearPerson | ruskie, _Manu_, Pimpi... up for a test of the next version? |
| 13:02.01 | Pimpi | see you there |
| 13:13.19 | ruskie | yup |
| 13:14.43 | Pimpi | maybe the bases need to be defined outside too |
| 13:14.53 | Pimpi | to make it work |
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| 14:19.27 | BearPerson | http://linux.aliboom.com/bearstats/viper-with-sw.png |
| 14:21.16 | BearPerson | ruskie |
| 14:21.29 | ruskie | :) |
| 14:21.59 | ruskie | should stop geno atleast... |
| 14:22.02 | BearPerson | moved the top middle a tad more up |
| 14:22.05 | BearPerson | at least :) |
| 14:25.10 | BearPerson | _Manu_, Pimpi... new map to manu by mail? |
| 14:26.28 | ruskie | gpg singed and all ;) |
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| 14:50.11 | BearPerson | map is hopping over the net. _Manu_, should be in your inbox |
| 14:52.41 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, gotcha! |
| 14:55.32 | BearPerson | this is going to be so ROFL at first |
| 14:55.37 | ruskie | yup |
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| 14:58.31 | Pimpi | _Manu_: already copied to server? |
| 14:58.49 | _Manu_ | yes... now i must generate the bin |
| 14:59.00 | BearPerson | so, when's the server getting restarted for the changes? :) |
| 14:59.01 | Pimpi | k, i'll copy binary |
| 14:59.08 | Pimpi | bzfs |
| 14:59.24 | _Manu_ | file is evennewerviper.bzw |
| 14:59.41 | BearPerson | (feel free to rename it) |
| 14:59.52 | _Manu_ | well.. config file is changed too |
| 15:00.06 | BearPerson | okay :) |
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| 15:01.54 | ruskie | hmmm I think I'll need to ressurect an old bzflag stable just to get the cache... |
| 15:03.18 | Pimpi | ~bzflist |
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| 15:13.40 | ruskie | hmm viper offline? |
| 15:15.03 | _Manu_ | yep... fixing some things |
| 15:15.10 | ruskie | k |
| 15:15.47 | _Manu_ | ruskie, be patient :) |
| 15:16.07 | ruskie | I am |
| 15:16.16 | ruskie | I just want to go start laughing at ppl :) |
| 15:16.23 | _Manu_ | be *more.. :) |
| 15:16.43 | Birdie | how did the cooking went manu?still no burned house?:) |
| 15:16.49 | ruskie | lol |
| 15:17.15 | _Manu_ | no :) |
| 15:17.55 | _Manu_ | ruskie, what does... ? "hello universe"? hehe |
| 15:18.11 | ruskie | no |
| 15:18.13 | ruskie | np: Sleeping Sun - Sleeping Sun (4 Ballads of the Eclipse) - Nightwish |
| 15:18.14 | ruskie | that |
| 15:18.21 | ruskie | connects to xmms2 and get's the info.. |
| 15:18.30 | _Manu_ | yeah.. your xmms2 stuff.. hehe |
| 15:18.45 | Birdie | i have that song on my pc |
| 15:18.58 | ruskie | now just need to implement all the other xmms2 cli client things |
| 15:19.27 | ruskie | so that other ppl who want can then rip them out and implement their own clients.... |
| 15:29.25 | _Manu_ | viper is running again... |
| 15:30.39 | ruskie | ohh... need to ressurect the stable bzflag client |
| 15:30.56 | _Manu_ | lazarus.. wake up |
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| 15:48.02 | ruskie | http://rafb.net/paste/results/hUotnH16.html <-- can anyone help me with this? |
| 15:50.37 | ruskie | ~bzfquery viper.pimpi.org:5158 |
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| 15:54.33 | heinola | hello all |
| 15:54.38 | ruskie | lo |
| 15:57.35 | heinola | well its better than 33.6k |
| 15:58.09 | ruskie | gaaahhhhh bzflag cvs keeps segfaulting on me :'( |
| 16:05.33 | BearPerson | ruskie, try running with -mute |
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| 16:07.06 | BearPerson | that fixed the segfaulting here |
| 16:17.01 | ruskie | BearPerson, I doubt it'll do for me... |
| 16:17.14 | ruskie | though I'll try... |
| 16:17.16 | ruskie | but I need sound... |
| 16:18.54 | BearPerson | I had bzflag segfaulting when I had sound on but something already using it |
| 16:19.04 | BearPerson | I see... my test server had ricochet off |
| 16:22.07 | BearPerson | yeah... with ricochet they do look a tad more chaotic |
| 16:22.17 | ruskie | yeah :) |
| 16:22.34 | BearPerson | prolly should make the one bounce off the wall instead of firing over it |
| 16:22.53 | ruskie | well it does bounce |
| 16:22.55 | ruskie | once |
| 16:23.00 | ruskie | then it goes the other way |
| 16:23.03 | ruskie | and hits the cone |
| 16:23.08 | ruskie | then it goes over the wall |
| 16:23.35 | ruskie | well I always use /dev/dsp1 for bzflag... |
| 16:23.42 | ruskie | since dsp is ussualy used up by xmms2d |
| 16:23.55 | ruskie | but I'll give it a shot |
| 16:24.50 | ruskie | as suspected it didn't work |
| 16:25.03 | ruskie | I haven't been able to use a cvs client since sometime at end of april co |
| 16:25.06 | ruskie | iirc |
| 16:25.11 | BearPerson | hmm |
| 16:25.18 | ruskie | just after the shot counts code was put in |
| 16:26.51 | ruskie | open("/usr/share/games/bzflag/l10n/bzflag.po", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 16:26.54 | ruskie | open("/usr/share/games/bzflag/l10n/bzflag_Default.po", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 16:27.12 | ruskie | this is the last comprehendable thing I see before a lot of read writes ioctls then a segfault |
| 16:36.33 | Pimpi | ruskie: try building without sdl |
| 16:36.42 | ruskie | tried |
| 16:36.43 | ruskie | same |
| 16:37.07 | ruskie | I'm used to either one failing for no apperent reason but both failing is to much... |
| 16:37.17 | ruskie | ussualy it worked --with-x --without-SDL |
| 16:37.18 | _Manu_ | it's weird because i'm using the same OS in this box and works fine |
| 16:37.26 | _Manu_ | with SDL |
| 16:39.42 | ruskie | maybe something wrong with the libs... though most of them were rebuilt not a week ago... |
| 16:40.14 | ruskie | http://rafb.net/paste/results/NuSoNZ93.html <-- here's a ldd on it |
| 16:42.03 | _Manu_ | here are mines ruskie: http://rafb.net/paste/results/OXmiGO71.html |
| 16:42.46 | ruskie | hmm could it be nptl related? |
| 16:43.05 | _Manu_ | can be |
| 16:43.19 | ruskie | since my system uses nptl |
| 16:43.23 | BearPerson | I think I have nptl |
| 16:44.07 | _Manu_ | i think mine too.. |
| 16:44.24 | _Manu_ | errrr not |
| 16:44.39 | ruskie | which iso did you use :) |
| 16:44.53 | ruskie | it's ussualy in the iso name |
| 16:44.53 | _Manu_ | last one.. with all their bugs |
| 16:45.12 | _Manu_ | but i think i disabled it when it asked me.. don't remember now |
| 16:47.54 | ruskie | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.59 | ruskie | trying with that now |
| 16:48.23 | ruskie | one more thing I could try after that... clearing ccache... |
| 16:48.36 | ruskie | could be some stray things... |
| 17:20.23 | menotume | ruskie: can you do a: echo $LANG |
| 17:22.37 | menotume | if it's not set, set it to something vaild, like: export LANG=en_US |
| 17:23.22 | ruskie | it is set |
| 17:23.37 | menotume | hmmm, cause that 'open' is invalid. |
| 17:23.42 | menotume | there is NO bzflag.po |
| 17:23.57 | menotume | but there are bzflag_en.po, etc. |
| 17:23.58 | ruskie | anyways seems to work now... but need to configure something else atm |
| 17:24.05 | ruskie | echo $LANG |
| 17:24.05 | ruskie | sl_SI.UTF-8 |
| 17:24.06 | menotume | ahhh, good |
| 17:25.08 | menotume | ok, i don't have a bzflag_default.po here either |
| 17:25.33 | menotume | as long as it's set to something, it really should segfault from that |
| 17:25.53 | ruskie | ussualy a --enable-debug works with any app that's randomly segfaulting for me |
| 17:26.08 | menotume | hmm |
| 17:26.12 | ruskie | now just need to figure out what to put in to SDL_PATH_DSP to use alsa device hw:1,0 |
| 17:26.25 | menotume | got me :( |
| 17:29.46 | ruskie | ok |
| 17:29.58 | jolie | gimme smg todo |
| 17:29.59 | ruskie | now it starts up but it fails when I select anything in the menu |
| 17:30.07 | jpa_ | jolie: you could hug me.. |
| 17:30.16 | jolie | sigh* |
| 17:30.21 | ruskie | join game/options/help/quit |
| 17:30.24 | ruskie | all result in a segfault |
| 17:31.44 | Birdie | jpa_ : she want something to do who is cool and not boring;) |
| 17:33.29 | ruskie | now to try a --without-SDL |
| 17:35.01 | ruskie | XDisplay.cxx: In member function `virtual bool XDisplay::doSetResolution(int)': |
| 17:35.02 | ruskie | XDisplay.cxx:284: warning: declaration of 'modeIndex' shadows a member of 'this' |
| 17:35.02 | ruskie | make[3]: *** [XDisplay.o] Error 1 |
| 17:35.05 | ruskie | interesting... |
| 17:35.23 | ruskie | that with --without-SDL --with-x --with-threads --enable-debug |
| 17:44.14 | ruskie | hmmm seems I have it working now |
| 17:44.25 | ruskie | but the soudns seems to be hyper accelerated :'( |
| 17:49.59 | ToughShooter | Does anyone know what happened to hepcat? |
| 18:27.58 | BearPerson | ruskie, hmm... maybe without --with-threads |
| 18:28.28 | BearPerson | Tupone or someone yesterday told me it was supposedly totally broken |
| 18:29.38 | Pimpi | BearPerson, ruskie: things fine on viper? |
| 18:30.09 | Pimpi | threads are surely broken |
| 18:30.28 | Pimpi | ;) |
| 18:31.01 | Pimpi | don't use threads, really |
| 18:31.17 | jolie | :( |
| 18:31.22 | jolie | im just back... |
| 18:32.42 | jpa_ | :( |
| 18:39.41 | BearPerson | I'll probably modify the map tonight so the laser reflections do something sensible |
| 18:45.53 | _Manu_ | there is a problem about base weapons ... imagine when two players tries capturing.. and other players trying hunt them.. when his own team captures.. he is dead because was near the base trying to kill the capturer |
| 18:46.34 | _Manu_ | i watched this |
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| 18:48.16 | BearPerson | hmm... right |
| 18:49.22 | _Manu_ | and also stop them for recovering his team flag |
| 18:50.25 | _Manu_ | so is not so easy how it seems to be :) |
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| 20:23.26 | Birdie | ~seen cosmos |
| 20:23.29 | ibot | cosmos <~cosmos@valentino.hepcat.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2d 18h 54m 40s ago, saying: 'or too many script kiddies on your block packeting away'. |
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| 21:15.52 | JeffM2501 | wow the flaglist page got eaten good, didn't it? |
| 21:24.55 | orchid | flaglist page? |
| 21:26.15 | SportChick | Aribeth_away: ping |
| 21:26.29 | SportChick | Aribeth_away: if you're around, we need you at temple of ire |
| 21:27.06 | JeffM2501 | on the wiki |
| 21:27.17 | orchid | ~wiki |
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| 21:27.58 | JeffM2501 | http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/FlagList |
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| 21:28.24 | CBG | Ouch... Someone slipped with their tags :s |
| 21:28.35 | JeffM2501 | somone put HTML in a wiki |
| 21:28.40 | JeffM2501 | wiki does not take HTML |
| 21:28.45 | CBG | Rofl! |
| 21:28.52 | JeffM2501 | somone blew it out |
| 21:28.54 | JeffM2501 | tha'ts all |
| 21:28.59 | JeffM2501 | with no repsect for what was there |
| 21:28.59 | CBG | Looks like soemone wanted to suggest a new flag.. |
| 21:29.06 | CBG | Is that page the right place? |
| 21:29.12 | JeffM2501 | ish |
| 21:29.16 | JeffM2501 | noone realy reads it |
| 21:29.22 | JeffM2501 | sf is probalby beter |
| 21:29.29 | JeffM2501 | bzbb will get more exposure |
| 21:29.33 | JeffM2501 | best is to just make it yourself |
| 21:29.42 | orchid | can we get the old page back? |
| 21:29.49 | JeffM2501 | Tim probalby has history |
| 21:29.53 | JeffM2501 | so I think yeah |
| 21:31.01 | CBG | Is the nlogo at the top of the bb permanent? |
| 21:31.07 | CBG | s/nlogo/logo |
| 21:31.16 | JeffM2501 | as permanent as anything else there |
| 21:31.20 | JeffM2501 | I just didn't like the old one |
| 21:31.21 | Pimpi | is there a known bug with bzfs and -lagwarn? |
| 21:31.42 | JeffM2501 | I'm going to make a better tank with a better shadow and repost it |
| 21:31.49 | Pimpi | lagwarn on all servers seems messed up |
| 21:31.50 | JeffM2501 | CBG, got an idea |
| 21:31.57 | JeffM2501 | Pimpi, define |
| 21:32.02 | CBG | you mean "Have you" ? |
| 21:32.04 | Pimpi | either 10 ms or -999 |
| 21:32.14 | JeffM2501 | wierdness |
| 21:32.17 | JeffM2501 | all 2.0 version? |
| 21:32.35 | Pimpi | given is -lagwarn 300 for all |
| 21:32.39 | Pimpi | recent cvs |
| 21:32.48 | JeffM2501 | work in older ones? |
| 21:32.57 | Pimpi | worked so far |
| 21:33.05 | JeffM2501 | then it'sa bug |
| 21:33.07 | JeffM2501 | best to report it |
| 21:33.15 | Pimpi | yesterdays build does it |
| 21:33.30 | JeffM2501 | wonder what changed |
| 21:33.31 | Pimpi | or hunt it down |
| 21:33.56 | Pimpi | didn't see a commit that worked on that stuff |
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| 21:34.12 | CBG | JeffM2501: Did you mean "*have you* got an idea?" |
| 21:34.21 | JeffM2501 | CBG, whatever |
| 21:34.25 | Pimpi | /proc/procid/cmdline seems to be fine |
| 21:34.27 | JeffM2501 | do you have you going to get one? |
| 21:34.34 | CBG | jeffm2501: Is that a yes? |
| 21:34.44 | JeffM2501 | CBG, it was a question to you |
| 21:35.15 | CBG | JeffM2501: What was? Your original "got an idea"? Because that sure looks like a statemtent... |
| 21:35.57 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:36.01 | CBG | Ok. :) |
| 21:36.06 | JeffM2501 | it was "got an idea?" |
| 21:36.09 | JeffM2501 | but I forgot the ? |
| 21:36.18 | CBG | Ok. ;) |
| 21:36.21 | CBG | And, No. |
| 21:36.37 | CBG | But maybe Thursday I can try to do something... |
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| 21:43.22 | JeffM2501 | why ask if it's perm then? |
| 21:43.48 | CBG | Huh? |
| 21:44.36 | CBG | JeffM2501: You talking to me? |
| 21:44.44 | JeffM2501 | <CBG> Is the nlogo at the top of the bb permanent? |
| 21:44.58 | CBG | Yes... whats your point? |
| 21:47.38 | CBG | *ahem* JeffM2501: Whats you'r point? |
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| 21:48.15 | JeffM2501 | just wondering why you asked it :) |
| 21:48.33 | CBG | I asked because I didn't know... |
| 21:48.41 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 21:48.47 | CBG | WHy else does one ask such things? |
| 21:49.12 | JeffM2501 | because one may have an idea for a new one, and would not sugest it if, the new logo was to be permanant |
| 21:49.25 | JeffM2501 | or one may thing it sucks |
| 21:49.50 | CBG | I think it sucks - as in I think it is not suited to the bb... |
| 21:50.03 | JeffM2501 | what woudl you sugest? |
| 21:50.13 | JeffM2501 | it is the game logo |
| 21:50.15 | CBG | Not what you have now. |
| 21:50.25 | JeffM2501 | the bb is offical for the game now |
| 21:50.41 | CBG | :) lol What you had before was better, just the quality was too low. |
| 21:50.58 | JeffM2501 | what was there before was just a bad picture of tank on a borring backgorund |
| 21:51.02 | CBG | Yes i know that, but the bb is NOT the game so a variant of the logo is ok ;) |
| 21:51.03 | JeffM2501 | what do you not like about this one? |
| 21:51.07 | JeffM2501 | what would you like to see |
| 21:51.09 | CBG | It doesn fit... |
| 21:51.14 | CBG | something that fits. |
| 21:51.16 | JeffM2501 | CBG, the bb is part of the game now |
| 21:51.19 | JeffM2501 | in a VERY big way |
| 21:51.32 | CBG | but its not THE game... its just part of it... |
| 21:51.46 | JeffM2501 | what would you like to see |
| 21:51.49 | JeffM2501 | what woudl fit better? |
| 21:52.01 | Pimpi | hm, seems it was me who broke -lagwarn, with a local path though |
| 21:52.10 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:52.20 | CBG | something smaller with colours that compliment the colours of the forum skin. :) |
| 21:52.47 | JeffM2501 | so more blue |
| 21:52.49 | JeffM2501 | and smaller |
| 21:53.30 | CBG | but making the current logo smaller and bluer may not do it... |
| 21:53.43 | CBG | I just think it doesnt "feel" right... :( |
| 21:53.55 | CBG | eh - maybe im too tired... :| |
| 21:54.06 | CBG | and/or stressed :( |
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| 21:54.36 | JeffM2501 | what would look right to you then? |
| 21:54.56 | CBG | I prefered the old one... |
| 21:56.44 | JeffM2501 | well you can't have the bad blue tank |
| 21:56.46 | *** join/#bzflag blast007_ (~blast@24-196-92-143.jvl.wi.charter.com) |
| 21:57.12 | CBG | How is this: http://bzflag.saturos.de/bzart/bzart6.jpg :P |
| 21:57.44 | JeffM2501 | thats a desktop |
| 21:57.46 | JeffM2501 | and it's red |
| 21:58.11 | CBG | yes yes... |
| 21:58.18 | CBG | but just use the logo button thingy |
| 21:58.22 | CBG | and make it blue... |
| 21:58.26 | JeffM2501 | its too shinny |
| 21:58.32 | JeffM2501 | the layout isn't shinny |
| 21:58.33 | JeffM2501 | at all |
| 21:58.44 | CBG | :/ |
| 21:59.16 | CBG | something like http://bzflag.saturos.de/bzart/bzart14.jpg perhaps? |
| 21:59.36 | JeffM2501 | that could have some promice |
| 21:59.40 | CBG | :D yay |
| 21:59.59 | CBG | and Im sure satu won't mind - I would be honoured if it was me |
| 22:00.16 | bryjen | red's about to get tk'ed there ;) |
| 22:01.03 | CBG | Yes :) |
| 22:01.12 | JeffM2501 | does saturos have IM or anything? |
| 22:01.19 | JeffM2501 | wonder of I could get the PSD for those things |
| 22:01.27 | CBG | ill look |
| 22:02.16 | CBG | His details are at http://www.gamesunited.de/ib/index.php?showuser=1674 |
| 22:02.41 | CBG | also, maybe http://bzflag.saturos.de/bzart/bzart19_v2.png could be used if the font was changed, etc... |
| 22:03.18 | JeffM2501 | no I like the top view one better |
| 22:04.01 | blast007_away | http://bzflag.omegadev.uni.cc/ss/bzflag.png |
| 22:04.26 | *** join/#bzflag blast007 (~blast007@24-196-92-143.jvl.wi.charter.com) |
| 22:05.21 | JeffM2501 | still like topview better |
| 22:05.26 | CBG | yes me too |
| 22:05.45 | blast007 | :) |
| 22:06.42 | Pimpi | trepan: ping |
| 22:07.45 | BearPerson | Pimpi, ping |
| 22:07.51 | BearPerson | viper just crashed it seems |
| 22:08.23 | *** join/#bzflag blast007` (~blast007@24-196-92-143.jvl.wi.charter.com) |
| 22:08.33 | CBG | blast007 X 3 :o |
| 22:08.45 | BearPerson | back up, nm |
| 22:09.59 | blast007` | gah.. |
| 22:10.13 | Pimpi | BearPerson: was me, nvm |
| 22:10.16 | blast007` | hope it was just my wifi and not my cable modem this time... |
| 22:10.45 | blast007 | nope...was the modem |
| 22:13.54 | JeffM2501 | patlabor221#:1 |
| 22:14.51 | JeffM2501 | ww |
| 22:19.36 | JeffM2501 | CBG, how bout that? |
| 22:20.01 | CBG | Hmm? |
| 22:20.05 | JeffM2501 | bzbb |
| 22:20.09 | CBG | wont load |
| 22:20.11 | JeffM2501 | logo |
| 22:20.16 | JeffM2501 | refresh |
| 22:20.21 | CBG | ok... |
| 22:20.30 | CBG | same |
| 22:20.34 | CBG | ill empty my cache |
| 22:20.39 | JeffM2501 | refresh no cache |
| 22:20.50 | JeffM2501 | wonder if I should make the entire blue fuzz crap into the grass |
| 22:21.09 | CBG | nope... still see the same thing |
| 22:21.17 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.20 | *** join/#bzflag shorty114 (~shorty114@shorty114.user) |
| 22:21.27 | JeffM2501 | maybe thinking too difrent :) |
| 22:22.23 | purple_cow | heh |
| 22:24.17 | CBG | Last time this happened, I was informed that I was behind some proxy or something which was cacheing web pages... O.o |
| 22:24.36 | JeffM2501 | you probably are then |
| 22:24.39 | JeffM2501 | sucks to be your ISP |
| 22:24.53 | CBG | Not a lot I can do untill I start earning. |
| 22:26.58 | CBG | whats the direct link to the file? |
| 22:30.02 | JeffM2501 | the same name as the one you are looking at now :) |
| 22:30.18 | CBG | ok. ;) |
| 22:30.46 | CBG | Is it smaller? |
| 22:30.52 | Tupone | JeffM2501: I think I've fixed the access to local server. If you know the guy that had that not working ... let them try again with this client |
| 22:31.00 | Tupone | server -> bzfs server |
| 22:31.45 | JeffM2501 | it was a post on bzbb |
| 22:32.23 | JeffM2501 | not sure if I like this, but it's an option |
| 22:32.24 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/images/grass-header.png |
| 22:32.43 | CBG | OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:32.48 | CBG | That kicks ASS! |
| 22:32.55 | JeffM2501 | no it dosn't |
| 22:33.00 | CBG | lol... Uh... Its better... ;) |
| 22:33.02 | JeffM2501 | blue and green is horible together |
| 22:33.09 | JeffM2501 | and the grass is badly blended |
| 22:33.11 | CBG | I beg to differ! |
| 22:33.28 | CBG | about blue+Green, i agree the grass is badly blended |
| 22:33.31 | JeffM2501 | look at the repeat under the white text |
| 22:33.41 | CBG | Yes. :) |
| 22:33.50 | JeffM2501 | the blue is not the same saturation of the main page |
| 22:34.04 | JeffM2501 | it does not ballance well from a design standpoint |
| 22:34.12 | CBG | I think it is an improvement :) |
| 22:34.14 | orchid | I dont like the brackets around [ bzflag ] |
| 22:34.25 | CBG | Yes, they could be removed... |
| 22:34.34 | CBG | And if you get hold of the psd you can change the bg too. |
| 22:34.35 | JeffM2501 | yeah don't know if I like themether |
| 22:34.44 | JeffM2501 | dono if I like the camo ether |
| 22:34.51 | JeffM2501 | may want the bzflag to look like real buildings |
| 22:34.54 | purple_cow | they should be removed |
| 22:34.59 | CBG | Nice idea. |
| 22:34.59 | JeffM2501 | maybe not a total top view |
| 22:35.01 | purple_cow | yeah - i'd use boxtop for the text :) |
| 22:35.04 | JeffM2501 | but slightly skewed |
| 22:35.11 | JeffM2501 | so you can see the brick red a tad |
| 22:35.23 | JeffM2501 | I should probably just render up the scene |
| 22:35.29 | JeffM2501 | or maybe see if saturos wants to |
| 22:35.32 | CBG | So, you want me to make (as a map) the word BZFLAG and take a screenshot from above?\ |
| 22:35.41 | CBG | (On Thursday) |
| 22:35.43 | shorty114 | Powered by phpBB 2.0.3 © 2001-2004 phpBB Group |
| 22:35.43 | JeffM2501 | CBG, no I want a real engine |
| 22:35.52 | shorty114 | i guess you haven't updated the version number in a while? ;) |
| 22:35.53 | CBG | Oh. Okies... |
| 22:35.55 | JeffM2501 | not the bzflag |
| 22:36.03 | JeffM2501 | shorty114, I guess you belive everything you read |
| 22:36.12 | JeffM2501 | it's just a string in the template |
| 22:36.19 | JeffM2501 | it's running current backend code |
| 22:36.21 | shorty114 | it's a template variable |
| 22:36.34 | shorty114 | {PHPBB_VERSION} |
| 22:36.37 | orchid | http://bzflag.saturos.de/v2/templates/standard/images/image_01.jpg this one is cool methinks |
| 22:36.39 | shorty114 | it's in the DB |
| 22:36.49 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 22:37.01 | JeffM2501 | and the db data is from..................................? ;) |
| 22:37.08 | shorty114 | initial install |
| 22:37.17 | JeffM2501 | bingo |
| 22:37.20 | shorty114 | the upgrade packages have an upgrade_to_latest.php file that updates that |
| 22:37.28 | JeffM2501 | don't care |
| 22:37.38 | JeffM2501 | what do I care about the version field in the db |
| 22:37.41 | CBG | orchid: Nice, but i think not good for a header... |
| 22:37.52 | shorty114 | well, it uses that to check with phpbb.com if you have any updates |
| 22:37.57 | JeffM2501 | I've sent him a message, maybe he'll just make us a nice one :) |
| 22:38.03 | JeffM2501 | shorty114, we do that |
| 22:38.03 | CBG | Yay :D lol |
| 22:38.09 | JeffM2501 | we do have an idea what we are doing |
| 22:38.14 | shorty114 | i know |
| 22:38.39 | shorty114 | but 2.0.11 or .12, can't remember, has an automated check on the admin index |
| 22:38.47 | shorty114 | err *added |
| 22:38.51 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 22:39.01 | JeffM2501 | I just never updated that field |
| 22:39.04 | CBG | JeffM Knows ALL |
| 22:39.19 | JeffM2501 | actualy I think in this template it's hardcoded in the template |
| 22:39.26 | JeffM2501 | I made template changes down there too |
| 22:39.30 | shorty114 | weird |
| 22:39.36 | JeffM2501 | not really |
| 22:39.52 | CBG | It is if you have never seen it before... |
| 22:39.54 | shorty114 | and on my Aeolus it doesn't even show the phpbb version... |
| 22:40.04 | JeffM2501 | hence why I said I made changes |
| 22:40.05 | CBG | Like when you first see an alien, you think weird... :) |
| 22:41.51 | CBG | JeffM2501: Of course, you could edit the whole theme to fit the style of the new header... :) |
| 22:42.07 | JeffM2501 | I could |
| 22:42.18 | JeffM2501 | saturos has agreed to help make a header just for us |
| 22:42.34 | JeffM2501 | I'm explaining to him the idea of making the name be boxroof and boxwall |
| 22:42.44 | CBG | Yay. :D |
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| 22:47.23 | JeffM2501 | hmm maybe I could change us to like artemis green |
| 22:48.14 | CBG | No... eugh! |
| 22:49.46 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 22:50.06 | CBG | I don't like it. :( Too dark, dingy... |
| 22:50.28 | JeffM2501 | good lord, colbalt still exists |
| 22:50.35 | CBG | Huh? |
| 22:50.41 | JeffM2501 | theme |
| 22:50.43 | JeffM2501 | horible |
| 22:50.47 | JeffM2501 | we used to use it |
| 22:51.01 | CBG | lol |
| 22:51.28 | CBG | Cobalt or colbalt ? |
| 22:51.38 | JeffM2501 | cobalt2 |
| 22:52.12 | CBG | Woah. Chunky! |
| 22:52.22 | CBG | This is it? http://www.phpbbhacks.com/templatesdemo/index.php?s=214 |
| 22:52.31 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 22:53.25 | JeffM2501 | imagine that, with a tank at the top |
| 22:53.29 | CBG | I like this: http://www.phpbbhacks.com/templatesdemo/index.php?s=105 But I am sure many won't. |
| 22:53.31 | shorty114 | haha i couldn't even get that theme to install |
| 22:53.33 | CBG | hehe. :D |
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| 22:54.07 | JeffM2501 | still like the p24 forum themes best |
| 22:54.13 | JeffM2501 | but it's too high tech for bz |
| 22:54.21 | CBG | In the spirit of war: http://www.phpbbhacks.com/templatesdemo/index.php?s=160 |
| 22:54.27 | CBG | P24???? |
| 22:54.37 | JeffM2501 | that's too green |
| 22:54.43 | JeffM2501 | too low contrast |
| 22:54.56 | JeffM2501 | I also don't like using non phpbb oficial styles |
| 22:54.58 | CBG | But its army based. :P |
| 22:55.02 | JeffM2501 | p24 = project24 |
| 22:55.11 | JeffM2501 | so |
| 22:55.15 | CBG | They have to be official? |
| 22:55.16 | shorty114 | JeffM2501, official? |
| 22:55.21 | shorty114 | you mean in the themes db? |
| 22:55.21 | JeffM2501 | the current ranks are airforced based :) |
| 22:55.30 | JeffM2501 | shorty114, the ones approved and shown oh phbb.com |
| 22:55.34 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:55.37 | CBG | That sucks. :( |
| 22:55.41 | JeffM2501 | it means somone checked them over |
| 22:55.51 | shorty114 | ah yeah |
| 22:56.39 | JeffM2501 | forgot what style this was when it started |
| 22:56.42 | JeffM2501 | http://p24.bakadigital.com/p24bb/ |
| 22:56.47 | JeffM2501 | but I've allways liked it |
| 22:57.35 | CBG | Very active forum, jeff. :) |
| 22:57.37 | shorty114 | it was xfile from phpbb.it |
| 22:57.43 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 22:57.52 | shorty114 | read the footer ;) |
| 22:58.04 | shorty114 | that's read as in past tense |
| 22:58.07 | JeffM2501 | still |
| 22:58.12 | JeffM2501 | it's not right for bz |
| 22:58.15 | shorty114 | yeah |
| 22:58.16 | CBG | yeah... |
| 22:58.22 | JeffM2501 | I picked it so it would go with the main site |
| 22:58.41 | shorty114 | yeah it does |
| 22:59.13 | JeffM2501 | hah, I used nanobloger |
| 22:59.15 | JeffM2501 | how funny |
| 22:59.46 | shorty114 | never used it |
| 22:59.56 | CBG | so, is P24 still going? |
| 23:00.04 | shorty114 | although i first heard of it off bzgirl's blog |
| 23:00.12 | CBG | Last thing ever posted on the site and forums was in 2003. |
| 23:00.14 | JeffM2501 | if you don't have a *nix shell account, there is no point in using it :) |
| 23:00.22 | JeffM2501 | CBG, yes you are correct |
| 23:00.34 | CBG | So its dead? |
| 23:00.46 | shorty114 | CBG, opencombat.net hasn't been posted to in a while, and it isn't dead :) |
| 23:00.50 | JeffM2501 | things never really die |
| 23:00.56 | JeffM2501 | they just get distracted |
| 23:01.15 | CBG | Ok... When was the last time someone worked on it? |
| 23:01.24 | shorty114 | check the cvs |
| 23:01.24 | JeffM2501 | I dono |
| 23:01.25 | CBG | as in added/changed code or whatever... |
| 23:01.52 | CBG | Well.. that says it all. |
| 23:01.54 | CBG | :D |
| 23:02.23 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure it's somewhere |
| 23:02.26 | CBG | Dammit jeff, your site just called me madam! |
| 23:02.37 | JeffM2501 | it does many things |
| 23:02.42 | shorty114 | hah |
| 23:03.32 | CBG | Me me! I "want some". |
| 23:04.46 | CBG | Did I Just disconnect and reconnect? |
| 23:04.55 | BearPerson | not on IRC |
| 23:05.11 | CBG | Odd... I lost my internet connection... My AIM and MSN disconnected... |
| 23:05.22 | BearPerson | they always do... gaim? |
| 23:05.22 | JeffM2501 | IRC isn't exactly "fast" |
| 23:05.39 | BearPerson | TCP is great... keeps stuff from breaking |
| 23:05.43 | CBG | Adium-X which from what I gather, is the mac gaim. :) |
| 23:05.47 | BearPerson | and IRC is extremely lag-tolerant |
| 23:05.54 | CBG | :) okies. |
| 23:06.05 | JeffM2501 | where tolerant == does not care about lag |
| 23:06.13 | CBG | lol |
| 23:06.20 | JeffM2501 | it does nothing in real time |
| 23:06.20 | BearPerson | my gaim thinks it's disconnected when my router changes firewall rules and the keepalive doesn't come back in <1 sec |
| 23:06.22 | JeffM2501 | so it dosn't care |
| 23:06.32 | Pimpi | trepan: ping |
| 23:06.42 | CBG | oooh ooh. Can I play? |
| 23:07.30 | *** join/#bzflag WonderMop (~Andy@dcn242-33.dcn.davis.ca.us) |
| 23:07.36 | CBG | Morning. :) |
| 23:09.27 | WonderMop | Cannonball? |
| 23:09.31 | CBG | Oh, JeffM2501: If you do decide to completely rebuild the theme... consider thinking about maybe trying to see about swapping over to SMF. From what i have seen, its easier to use (from the admin side)... |
| 23:09.41 | JeffM2501 | smf? |
| 23:09.45 | CBG | WonderMop... Yes? |
| 23:09.46 | blast007 | a different forum |
| 23:09.56 | CBG | JeffM2501: SimpleMachinesForum. Google it. |
| 23:09.57 | WonderMop | just figured it out |
| 23:10.06 | CBG | What? O.o |
| 23:10.07 | JeffM2501 | CBG, you going to rewrite global authentication support for it? |
| 23:10.08 | blast007 | be lots of work, cuz the global login is tied into phpBB |
| 23:10.15 | CBG | JeffM2501: of course. :) |
| 23:10.21 | JeffM2501 | tell me when you are done |
| 23:10.30 | CBG | Gimme a few mins... geez. |
| 23:10.32 | JeffM2501 | and what the forum offers that phpbb does not |
| 23:10.38 | CBG | I can't do it in 3 seconds. |
| 23:10.44 | JeffM2501 | and what it does not do that that phpbb does |
| 23:11.02 | CBG | Just try it (if your not too busy) I found it easier to use all over. |
| 23:11.08 | JeffM2501 | making 3 mods to a theme is not the same as swaping board systems. |
| 23:11.31 | JeffM2501 | CBG, are you stating that I am unable to use phpbb well enough? |
| 23:11.38 | CBG | Yeah... |
| 23:11.48 | WonderMop | can anyone tell me why -public doesn't get a server listed? but it gets listed on my computer as my local address |
| 23:11.50 | CBG | You cant seem to mod it at all... :P Lol. |
| 23:12.03 | CBG | WonderMop. Are you behind a proxy? |
| 23:12.06 | JeffM2501 | so you do not like the current moderation style |
| 23:12.19 | JeffM2501 | WonderMop, if the list server can't get back to your server from ouside it won't list it. |
| 23:12.21 | CBG | JeffM2501: not at all. hehe :P |
| 23:12.24 | WonderMop | yeah, transparent from the isp |
| 23:12.30 | JeffM2501 | WonderMop, are you behind a router or firewall? |
| 23:12.35 | WonderMop | router firewall is ok |
| 23:12.40 | WonderMop | checked that :) |
| 23:12.46 | JeffM2501 | can people from outside connect to you? |
| 23:12.54 | WonderMop | yes, if they know the ip |
| 23:13.02 | JeffM2501 | what port are you on? |
| 23:13.05 | WonderMop | 5154 |
| 23:13.05 | JeffM2501 | default? |
| 23:13.10 | *** join/#bzflag Legoguy (~Lego|Desk@adsl-68-79-193-151.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 23:13.14 | JeffM2501 | did you do -publicaddr? |
| 23:13.22 | WonderMop | yes |
| 23:13.29 | JeffM2501 | what did you put for the pubicaddr? |
| 23:13.30 | CBG | WonderMop: Maybe you need to set the -publiclist http://my.BZFlag.org:81/db/ |
| 23:13.38 | WonderMop | ahh |
| 23:13.46 | WonderMop | lemme try that |
| 23:13.50 | JeffM2501 | CBG, nice forum........ guess they use many 404's in it's executaion |
| 23:13.52 | WonderMop | 81 the proxy port? |
| 23:13.58 | JeffM2501 | WonderMop, no |
| 23:14.00 | CBG | JeffM2501: Sorry? |
| 23:14.08 | JeffM2501 | what did you put in your publicaddr? |
| 23:14.22 | JeffM2501 | CBG, don't just guess at people's problems, it's stupid |
| 23:14.33 | JeffM2501 | CBG, site is NFG |
| 23:14.35 | WonderMop | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:14.46 | JeffM2501 | take that line out |
| 23:14.52 | WonderMop | ok |
| 23:14.53 | JeffM2501 | let the list server get your IP for you |
| 23:14.53 | WonderMop | and? |
| 23:15.03 | JeffM2501 | just run it with -d -d -d |
| 23:15.03 | WonderMop | just dump it? |
| 23:15.06 | WonderMop | oh ok |
| 23:15.07 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:15.11 | WonderMop | ahh.. i'll get output |
| 23:15.11 | JeffM2501 | if you are doing IP, you don't need it |
| 23:15.12 | WonderMop | :) |
| 23:15.19 | CBG | JeffM2501: I just said *maybe* he needs to do that... :( As like a SuGGestiOn. O.o |
| 23:15.27 | JeffM2501 | with 3 d's you'll see the list server trying to connect |
| 23:15.37 | JeffM2501 | CBG, you were guessing that it's a proxy problem |
| 23:15.47 | WonderMop | Queuing ADD message to list server |
| 23:15.49 | JeffM2501 | when you had not goten any info sugeting it was |
| 23:15.52 | CBG | He said he is behind a proxy... I suggested a solution. |
| 23:15.59 | JeffM2501 | oh you are behind a proxy |
| 23:15.59 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 23:16.04 | WonderMop | yup. isp transparent |
| 23:16.11 | JeffM2501 | proxys screw up assloads of stuff |
| 23:16.14 | WonderMop | i noticed |
| 23:16.16 | WonderMop | :( |
| 23:16.20 | JeffM2501 | but I'll bet it's your IP |
| 23:16.29 | JeffM2501 | your local wan IP is not your real IP |
| 23:16.30 | WonderMop | lol |
| 23:16.31 | blast007 | WonderMop: did you get the global login to work in the client? |
| 23:16.33 | WonderMop | yes |
| 23:16.37 | WonderMop | via :81 |
| 23:16.39 | blast007 | k, good :) |
| 23:16.44 | JeffM2501 | then do 81 on game server too |
| 23:16.53 | WonderMop | ? |
| 23:17.31 | CBG | Like CBG said... |
| 23:17.31 | WonderMop | oh ok |
| 23:17.31 | WonderMop | :) |
| 23:17.31 | WonderMop | one min |
| 23:17.31 | CBG | :) |
| 23:17.31 | WonderMop | props to cng |
| 23:17.31 | WonderMop | er, cbg |
| 23:17.31 | JeffM2501 | do what cbg said |
| 23:17.31 | CBG | Thanks... |
| 23:17.31 | JeffM2501 | if you need 81 for client |
| 23:17.31 | JeffM2501 | you need 81 for server |
| 23:17.31 | JeffM2501 | but you probably have a difrent IP externaly as well |
| 23:17.42 | WonderMop | that is the eternal. |
| 23:17.46 | WonderMop | er, external |
| 23:17.49 | JeffM2501 | still dont' sugest thigns with out explaining :) |
| 23:18.00 | JeffM2501 | the real external? or your ISP asigned external? |
| 23:18.02 | CBG | Nobody explained it to me... |
| 23:18.16 | JeffM2501 | CBG, that still dosn't make it right |
| 23:18.22 | CBG | They said "are you behind a proxy" me: Uhh.... what? them: "do this ..." |
| 23:18.33 | WonderMop | ok.. did cgb stufff |
| 23:18.34 | JeffM2501 | is that the IP that shows if you go to http://www.whatismyip.com |
| 23:18.36 | CBG | No... But I can't explain it if I dont know it. |
| 23:18.53 | JeffM2501 | CBG, then maybe you should refrain from giving out info you can't back up :) |
| 23:19.25 | WonderMop | chill out guys |
| 23:19.33 | WonderMop | anthing wil help:) |
| 23:19.43 | CBG | Then maybe I should never help anyone again regarding everything except for things such as what colour underpants I am wearing...? |
| 23:19.45 | JeffM2501 | move to an ISP with no proxy |
| 23:19.48 | JeffM2501 | get the real internet :) |
| 23:19.57 | JeffM2501 | CBG, you could if you learned more ;) |
| 23:19.57 | CBG | Gee. Thats easy. |
| 23:20.11 | CBG | JeffM2501: I could learn more if people explained things. |
| 23:20.23 | JeffM2501 | learning isn't just people telling you stuff |
| 23:20.30 | JeffM2501 | I fear for your first research paper |
| 23:20.36 | CBG | Did I say it was? |
| 23:20.49 | JeffM2501 | you indicated that it was the reason you don't know more |
| 23:20.55 | CBG | No |
| 23:20.56 | WonderMop | Jeff... Chill. I've been trying to ger around the proxy (isp) for a few days now |
| 23:21.02 | CBG | I said I would know more if people explained. |
| 23:21.09 | JeffM2501 | WonderMop, why do you thinkI am not chilled? |
| 23:21.22 | CBG | What wondermop means is, Back Off! |
| 23:21.34 | JeffM2501 | of what? |
| 23:21.39 | CBG | or "Leave the kid alone: He helped!" |
| 23:21.40 | JeffM2501 | I'm just stating my opinion? |
| 23:21.52 | CBG | Maybe I don;t give a damn about your opinion. |
| 23:22.02 | JeffM2501 | that is for you to deal with |
| 23:22.04 | JeffM2501 | not for me |
| 23:22.21 | WonderMop | OK. |
| 23:22.22 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
| 23:22.33 | JeffM2501 | well we don't know if anything helped yet :) |
| 23:22.39 | WonderMop | Testing :P |
| 23:22.45 | CBG | But my point is, perhaps WonderMops "Chill Out" could be seen upon as "Shut Up." :) |
| 23:22.52 | JeffM2501 | well that's just rude |
| 23:22.59 | JeffM2501 | so you are an asshat |
| 23:23.02 | CBG | Maybe wonderMop is a rude guy? |
| 23:23.06 | WonderMop | Works :) |
| 23:23.08 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 23:23.12 | CBG | Maybe I wear green ear muffs. |
| 23:23.19 | WonderMop | LOL... I am usually mellow |
| 23:23.26 | JeffM2501 | maybe I odn't give a damn about your earmuffs |
| 23:23.28 | CBG | Maybe JeffM2501 has no life. |
| 23:23.40 | JeffM2501 | maybe I have too much of it |
| 23:23.45 | CBG | Maybe. |
| 23:23.58 | WonderMop | LOL |
| 23:24.00 | CBG | :) |
| 23:24.04 | WonderMop | This is rather entertaining |
| 23:24.14 | CBG | Uhh; what were we argueing about? |
| 23:24.35 | JeffM2501 | pie |
| 23:24.43 | CBG | WonderMop: I am glad to have helped. :) |
| 23:25.03 | WonderMop | Thanks CBG |
| 23:25.09 | WonderMop | This proxy is soooooooo annoying |
| 23:25.18 | CBG | For more information on your proxy and what damage it may be doing to your internal organs, please visit www.google.com. :) |
| 23:25.21 | WonderMop | othwise 1.5M up/down is nice :) |
| 23:25.25 | WonderMop | lol |
| 23:25.28 | CBG | Yes. :D Nice. |
| 23:25.45 | JeffM2501 | not much down |
| 23:26.10 | CBG | Could host about 100 players on it though. :D |
| 23:26.22 | JeffM2501 | where did you get that number? |
| 23:26.29 | CBG | Random. :D lol |
| 23:26.30 | blast007 | rand() |
| 23:26.36 | JeffM2501 | his_ass(); |
| 23:26.40 | blast007 | lol |
| 23:26.42 | CBG | No..... |
| 23:26.54 | CBG | Its like ( | ) |
| 23:26.59 | WonderMop | Name.pull_out_of_ass(int); |
| 23:27.01 | JeffM2501 | so secretplace has 1000 players? |
| 23:27.13 | CBG | yeah. didnt you know? |
| 23:27.27 | JeffM2501 | ohh I know how many it does |
| 23:27.31 | JeffM2501 | it's well documented :) |
| 23:27.53 | CBG | How many kbps in wondermops 1.5M ? |
| 23:28.07 | JeffM2501 | 1.5 * 1024 |
| 23:28.13 | JeffM2501 | k = 1024 |
| 23:28.41 | JeffM2501 | he'll probaby cap at about 120-150 |
| 23:28.51 | JeffM2501 | depends how much overhead he has |
| 23:29.27 | CBG | so if I can suppossedly get 4 players on 100kbps, you could get 614.4 players on 1.5M... |
| 23:29.30 | JeffM2501 | that's little b |
| 23:29.54 | JeffM2501 | and no I don't think you can get 4 |
| 23:29.57 | JeffM2501 | I think you can get 2 |
| 23:29.58 | CBG | I was told (by you Iirc) that I might manage to host 4/5 players on 100kbps |
| 23:30.03 | blast007 | CBG: the measurements aren't linear |
| 23:30.04 | JeffM2501 | might |
| 23:30.05 | CBG | I cant get one. |
| 23:30.07 | JeffM2501 | if you were REALY lucky |
| 23:30.15 | CBG | blast007: Ooooh. :P |
| 23:30.18 | JeffM2501 | yeah the more players there are, the more data has to be sent to all of them |
| 23:30.30 | JeffM2501 | he'll get 10-12 probably |
| 23:30.31 | CBG | I cant even host MYSELF... |
| 23:30.43 | JeffM2501 | what is your overhead? |
| 23:30.45 | CBG | I have like 60ms jitter. lol |
| 23:31.34 | WonderMop | I am going to allow 25 |
| 23:31.44 | CBG | Bye Jeff! |
| 23:31.51 | CBG | Cya tomorow, buddy. |
| 23:32.09 | WonderMop | i've done 120 w/ some lagh |
| 23:33.06 | CBG | Well. I should go get some sleep... |
| 23:33.15 | CBG | G'night all. :| |
| 23:33.20 | WonderMop | night CBG |
| 23:33.42 | CBG | Let me know when your server is up and running publically WonderMop. |
| 23:33.49 | WonderMop | this weekend... for chaos |
| 23:33.56 | CBG | Ok. Cool :D |
| 23:33.59 | CBG | Bye! |
| 23:34.21 | WonderMop | l8r all... goona test |
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| 23:43.47 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/ (PyBZDB.cpp PyPlayer.cpp): add BZDB set stuff, update for new getplayer method |
| 23:52.27 | Pimpi | other apps should also quit in f12... |
| 23:52.37 | Pimpi | would make things much easier |
| 23:55.10 | ruskie | lol |
| 23:55.18 | ruskie | I need to press - |
| 23:55.29 | ruskie | f12 doesn't respond :) |
| 23:56.01 | BearPerson | was probably put in to dispel the "almighty intelligent server" myth |
| 23:56.11 | trepan | Pimpi: ? |
| 23:56.17 | BearPerson | but it makes shutting people up harder... :) |
| 23:56.25 | *** join/#bzflag purple_cow_ (~jupiter@navi.cx) |
| 23:57.26 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o purple_cow] by ChanServ |
| 23:57.27 | BearPerson | commands.cxx, line 2443 and the three following lines |
| 23:57.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 2 dirs): it's spelled 'handler', not 'handaler' |
| 23:57.43 | BearPerson | just remove/comment out the "no anonymous messages" stuff and you're fine |
| 23:57.57 | BearPerson | I mean the three code lines below it |
