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`00:07.59`	`CIA-12`	`BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: fix "with flag" message to use a more sensible format and use the shot flag not the player flag`
`00:08.06`	`DTRemenak`	`JeffM2501: there ya go, all better`
`00:08.11`	`JeffM2501`	`huzza`
`00:08.28`	`JeffM2501`	`you continue to be "the man"`
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`01:57.11`	`Michaelhhh`	`I have a feature that waits a few seconds before rejoining servers when the port and the address is the same -- should I submit a patch or commit it?`
`01:58.58`	`Michaelhhh`	`In case you are wondering this is useful because if the server doesn't allow reconnecting immediately your reconnect fails...`
`02:01.39`	`wegstar`	`submit a patch, and I believe someone will review it... err...`
`02:03.05`	`orchid`	`Michaelhhh: I'm confused, the patch will allow you to immediately reconnect to the same server/port and bypass the 5 sec rejoin ?`
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`02:03.33`	`blast007`	`no`
`02:03.46`	`blast007`	`it will wait a certain number of seconds before trying to reconnect`
`02:04.10`	`orchid`	`I see`
`02:04.26`	`blast007`	`Michaelhhh: does it wait a hard-coded amount of time? or is it based off _rejoinTime?`
`02:05.47`	`Michaelhhh`	`It will be user configurable or it will wait 3 seconds by default`
`02:06.01`	`Michaelhhh`	`_rejoinTime is server side or is it also available to the client?`
`02:06.38`	`blast007`	`it's server side, but it should be accessable from the client`
`02:06.46`	`blast007`	`it's just like _jumpVelocity`
`02:07.07`	`blast007`	`and the default is 5 seconds`
`02:07.11`	`Michaelhhh`	`Ok, but I'd have to be connected to the server first to know it - I guess that makes sense`
`02:07.29`	`Michaelhhh`	`hmmm`
`02:07.59`	`Michaelhhh`	`Is there an easy way to query the server to know what the values are for the server?`
`02:08.06`	`orchid`	`yes clieant can see it, bzg: /set _rejoinTime <5.000000> 5`
`02:10.41`	`blast007`	`if you are reconnecting to the same server, you should already have the value ;)`
`02:11.31`	`Michaelhhh`	`Right, except I think it is mostly controlled server side -- it makes logical sense to get it somehow of course`
`02:12.59`	`Michaelhhh`	`hmmm - you are right about the velocity :) Duh.. I guess it does get to the client somehow`
`02:13.22`	`DTRemenak`	`Michaelhhh: also remember that there's a REJOIN permission that can allow certain users to bypass the rejoin timer`
`02:14.17`	`blast007`	`hmm, but I suppose the client doesn't know it has that permission, or does it?`
`02:14.57`	`Michaelhhh`	`arg`
`02:15.19`	`DTRemenak`	`you'd need to request it and then keep track of it`
`02:15.30`	`DTRemenak`	`would be some work, but possible`
`02:16.08`	`DTRemenak`	`actually, I'm not sure you can request permission verification at all`
`02:16.18`	`DTRemenak`	`patches are welcome for that too :)`
`02:17.14`	`blast007`	`hehe`
`02:19.25`	`Michaelhhh`	`this was easier before I asked :)`
`02:20.35`	`trepan`	`you may also wish to rejoin immediately to enter or leave observer mode`
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`02:45.33`	`SC`	`DTRemenak: sadly now that traffic on sp has picked up, so has my hud lag`
`02:46.45`	`DTRemenak`	`SC: 2.0.x does tend to get un-smooth in ways that 1.10 didn't`
`03:00.12`	`SC`	`DTRemenak: yes`
`03:00.46`	`SportChick`	`DTRemenak: however, I did notice that my lag was slightly elevated (according to lagstats) when I typed that`
`03:01.01`	`SportChick`	`DTRemenak: it might be best to wait until I'm home and see how it compares`
`03:20.13`	`Michaelhhh`	`I have the idiot (not paying attention to the server env. variables) version of this (delay before re-entering server). Should I make a patch or just commit it?`
`03:23.47`	`DTRemenak`	`do not commit it if it breaks admin-rejoin and observer-rejoin functionality`
`03:24.27`	`Michaelhhh`	`So both of those bypass the rejoin wait?`
`03:25.09`	`DTRemenak`	`yes, the REJOIN permission, and rejoining into an observer slot or out of an observer slot`
`03:25.45`	`Michaelhhh`	`alrighty`
`03:27.17`	`DTRemenak`	`grr, bzfs just crashed with a corrupt stack`
`03:29.52`	`Michaelhhh`	`was it corrupted in a good way?`
`03:29.54`	`Michaelhhh`	`:)`
`03:31.30`	`DTRemenak`	`would I be growling if it was a good thing?`
`03:31.46`	`DTRemenak`	`:)`
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`04:10.16`	`jpa-`	`morning`
`04:14.59`	`ep`	`article on /. about on how to unlocek all 16 pipelines in a geforce 6800`
`04:17.52`	`Michaelhhh`	`I've taken care of observer mode, however it looks like permissions only live on the server as is. The ability to ask the server what permission I have as a client would have to be added somewhere...`
`04:18.34`	`DTRemenak`	`could send a /groupperms command and parse the results :)`
`04:19.02`	`DTRemenak`	`probably be a lot of work to do that too though`
`04:21.47`	`Michaelhhh`	`It should probably be a message somewhere - it probably wouldn't even have to be very large`
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`04:22.51`	`trepan`	`look for the "can't rejoin" message, parse the time value, wait for that amount of time, rejoin`
`04:23.45`	`trepan`	`i assume you're trying to avoid counting the moments that make up the dull daze`
`04:24.12`	`Michaelhhh`	`I suppose`
`04:24.13`	`Michaelhhh`	`so`
`04:25.02`	`trepan`	`i'd also suggest putting out a client side message, and providing an escape`
`04:27.28`	`Michaelhhh`	`alrighty`
`04:29.18`	`trepan`	`if he comes back, would someone kindly kick him with "can't rejoing for ..."`
`04:30.41`	`DTRemenak`	`heh`
`04:40.06`	`CIA-12`	`BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: temporarily back out a block of worldEventManagement that breaks at least the LOCAL.ADMIN group`
`04:48.31`	`CIA-12`	`BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ws`
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`05:02.22`	`CIA-12`	`BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (Permissions.cxx Permissions.h bzfs.cxx): or, just fix it instead of removing it.`
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`05:43.57`	`noyb`	`MeBigFatGuy: they catch more stupid customers that way. Picture Homer shopping for a pool table... "I'll go to the pool store, uh... right after this beer..."`
`05:44.10`	`MeBigFatGuy`	`prolly`
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`06:33.39`	`noyb`	`hey there... just thought I would try compiling it directly after cvs and I get this: http://pastebin.ca/12661`
`06:34.06`	`noyb`	`according to the README the first thing is to do: aclocal`
`06:41.14`	`noyb`	`brlcad: you awake?`
`06:51.43`	`noyb`	`I'm guessing all of those warnings are bad...`
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`06:55.45`	`noyb`	`hi TimRiker`
`06:56.54`	`JeffM2501`	`bit late out there isn't it Tim?`
`06:57.47`	`TimRiker`	`yeah. up hacking. ;-)`
`06:58.00`	`JeffM2501`	`fun`
`06:59.49`	`noyb`	`JeffM2501: am I on the right track for getting the cvs compiled?`
`07:00.11`	`JeffM2501`	`haven't looked`
`07:00.19`	`JeffM2501`	`what OS?`
`07:00.31`	`jolie`	`linux`
`07:00.33`	`jolie`	`go linux`
`07:00.54`	`noyb`	`sorry... Solaris 10`
`07:00.58`	`jolie`	`:'(`
`07:00.58`	`JeffM2501`	`ohh yeah, TimRiker a little bird reminds me to tell you I lost my ops thingy when I changed my master account, when I got my cloack updated, is it posible for you to fix it?`
`07:01.02`	`jolie`	`you know how to make a girl cry...`
`07:01.13`	`JeffM2501`	`dude solaris`
`07:01.17`	`JeffM2501`	`best of luck man`
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`07:01.47`	`purple_cow`	`hehe`
`07:02.26`	`JeffM2501`	`noyb, those are all warnings`
`07:02.32`	`JeffM2501`	`do you have any real ERRORS?`
`07:03.07`	`JeffM2501`	`ahh at the top`
`07:03.07`	`JeffM2501`	`nm`
`07:03.18`	`JeffM2501`	`sounds like you have old old autotools`
`07:03.44`	`noyb`	`maybe... lemme get some versions.`
`07:04.16`	`noyb`	`autoconf 2.59`
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`07:04.32`	`Birdie`	`good morning gina`
`07:04.33`	`JeffM2501`	`get one that has _AC_PTH_ERROR`
`07:04.42`	`gina`	`bweeek`
`07:04.42`	`noyb`	`automake 1.8.3`
`07:05.05`	`purple_cow`	`hmm, i'm gonna have to name a new computer soon...`
`07:05.05`	`JeffM2501`	`what ever they are, they don't work`
`07:05.13`	`JeffM2501`	`or the make files don't work on your OS`
`07:05.17`	`JeffM2501`	`you'll have to debug`
`07:06.25`	`noyb`	`purple_cow: begin a new theme "fluids of the body" for all of your new hosts... never had enough nerve for that at work...`
`07:06.39`	`purple_cow`	`naw`
`07:06.41`	`noyb`	`bile, vomit, dia... ehem.`
`07:07.05`	`noyb`	`computer1 computer2 ...`
`07:07.08`	`JeffM2501`	`purple_cow, p4 ain't cutting it any more?`
`07:07.33`	`purple_cow`	`JeffM2501: naw, set-top-box type machine`
`07:07.43`	`JeffM2501`	`wasabi2`
`07:07.45`	`purple_cow`	`i'd like to replace the desktop, but i just don't have the cash right now`
`07:07.46`	`purple_cow`	`basically`
`07:07.51`	`purple_cow`	`i'm leaning towards "fembot" right now`
`07:08.01`	`JeffM2501`	`call it ginger`
`07:08.56`	`JeffM2501`	`or has all that I known about your network been redone`
`07:08.57`	`noyb`	`so... is it really that bad to get it compiled on solaris?`
`07:09.15`	`JeffM2501`	`noyb, dono, your like the first to do it in a long time.`
`07:09.16`	`purple_cow`	`JeffM2501: hmm?`
`07:09.21`	`JeffM2501`	`not exactly the most popular platform`
`07:09.39`	`JeffM2501`	`you still ahve the navi, wasabi, et all.... ?`
`07:09.42`	`purple_cow`	`yeah`
`07:09.45`	`jolie`	`solaris? is this... realistic?`
`07:10.00`	`JeffM2501`	`it's an old old supported platform`
`07:10.10`	`JeffM2501`	`noone realy uses it anymore so it rarely stays updated`
`07:10.21`	`JeffM2501`	`around reelease somone goes and fixes it up`
`07:10.30`	`jolie`	`so..`
`07:10.38`	`JeffM2501`	`it's not kept up like "the big 3"`
`07:10.38`	`jolie`	`this would be just for him then?`
`07:10.50`	`JeffM2501`	`I know of no other users using it`
`07:11.02`	`JeffM2501`	`not on the magnatude of something like linux`
`07:11.08`	`noyb`	`ouch.`
`07:11.13`	`jolie`	`hm.`
`07:11.23`	`jolie`	`linux r0x0r`
`07:11.38`	`JeffM2501`	`order of useage goes, linux, windows, OSX, irix, others IIRC`
`07:11.53`	`purple_cow`	`wow, there are still irix users?`
`07:12.25`	`JeffM2501`	`like 3`
`07:12.31`	`JeffM2501`	`conting Tim :)`
`07:12.42`	`noyb`	`ok, so do you want me to try it and work thru the problems?`
`07:12.48`	`noyb`	`or give up.`
`07:12.58`	`JeffM2501`	`noyb, it would be up to you, since it would be basicly JUST for you.`
`07:13.18`	`JeffM2501`	`noone would say "thanks for fixing solaris now.. I can finaly play...."`
`07:13.28`	`jolie`	`true`
`07:13.48`	`noyb`	`ha! I have a couple of friends that run solaris at home too... so that's not exactly true.. :)`
`07:13.54`	`JeffM2501`	`ok`
`07:13.58`	`JeffM2501`	`then do it for them`
`07:14.00`	`jolie`	`well.. you and 3 friends can enjoy it then.`
`07:14.18`	`JeffM2501`	`but it's not like anyone of us have ever done it before`
`07:14.24`	`JeffM2501`	`or anyone makes sure it allways works`
`07:14.30`	`JeffM2501`	`or that we won't break it again`
`07:14.34`	`JeffM2501`	`at any time`
`07:14.43`	`noyb`	`yay. the support here is simply overwhelming... anyone got a tissue?`
`07:15.20`	`JeffM2501`	`it's just not a often used OS`
`07:15.24`	`JeffM2501`	`what can we say?`
`07:15.30`	`JeffM2501`	`you want us to lie to you?`
`07:15.32`	`noyb`	`I understand.`
`07:15.37`	`noyb`	`no thanks.`
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`07:15.59`	`noyb`	`straight up truth to the face is good.`
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`07:16.32`	`JeffM2501`	`how old is the solaris and the machiene?`
`07:16.42`	`noyb`	`Solaris 10 and Ultra 5`
`07:16.58`	`noyb`	`I'm mostly interested in the bzfs not the client.`
`07:17.20`	`noyb`	`does that help?`
`07:17.40`	`JeffM2501`	`no not realy`
`07:17.44`	`JeffM2501`	`you'll need curl and stuff`
`07:17.52`	`noyb`	`no prob. already installed.`
`07:17.56`	`JeffM2501`	`ok`
`07:17.58`	`JeffM2501`	`then make it work :)(`
`07:18.23`	`noyb`	`is that happy or sad?`
`07:18.37`	`gina`	`laters`
`07:18.39`	`JeffM2501`	`both`
`07:18.48`	`JeffM2501`	`aka maters little to me`
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`07:25.37`	`JeffM2501`	`thank you TimRiker`
`07:26.52`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o jolie] by JeffM2501`
`07:26.58`	`JeffM2501`	`yay they work`
`07:26.59`	`jolie`	`^_^`
`07:28.48`	`purple_cow`	`heh`
`07:29.39`	`jolie`	`paid work!?`
`07:29.57`	`purple_cow`	`uhhuh`
`07:29.58`	`purple_cow`	`for money`
`07:30.09`	`jolie`	`money always good`
`07:30.22`	`jolie`	`money gets you tickets..`
`07:30.28`	`jolie`	`tickets get ut to puter conferences`
`07:30.37`	`jolie`	`and puter hw`
`07:30.40`	`TimRiker`	`speeding gets you tickets too.`
`07:30.57`	`jolie`	`i was talking about the usefull tickets tim`
`07:31.20`	`noyb`	`what was the last useful conference?`
`07:32.47`	`purple_cow`	`hmm, conferences`
`07:33.10`	`jolie`	`i gave a talk once...`
`07:33.19`	`purple_cow`	`i still haven't finished that grant proposal for siggraph money`
`07:33.36`	`jolie`	`work hard for the money... stop ircing and work ;)`
`07:40.42`	`jolie`	`muhaha.`
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`09:17.51`	`jolie`	`im goin to miss that cow`
`09:17.53`	`jolie`	`nm.`
`09:18.36`	`purple_cow`	`hehe`
`09:22.01`	`purple_cow`	`you're not getting rid of me that easily`
`09:22.07`	`jolie`	`uh uh`
`09:23.53`	`jolie`	`so cow`
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`10:12.16`	`CBG`	`Hello?`
`10:12.38`	`jolie`	`busy, try again later`
`10:12.43`	`jolie`	`thx for calling us.`
`10:12.47`	`CBG`	`lol.`
`10:12.49`	`jolie`	`lol*`
`10:13.23`	`CBG`	`A server admin I know has it set up so tat if you say their name in game, it acts as if you said it in the IRC channel`
`10:13.32`	`CBG`	`and the IRC client flashes or beeps...`
`10:13.44`	`jolie`	`dude too much free time.`
`10:13.57`	`CBG`	`What is the likelyhood of doing something similar with MSN/AIM/ICQ ?`
`10:14.44`	`jolie`	`tsk you should be outside!!! getting tan`
`10:14.48`	`CBG`	`So that if you say someones AIM identity, their AIM account beeps and says the name of the server... ?`
`10:14.49`	`jolie`	`having an ice cream`
`10:14.56`	`CBG`	`lol. Its not even sunny.`
`10:15.08`	`jolie`	`watching pretty girlies passing by .. while you show them ur laptop with ur cool bzflag game!`
`10:15.16`	`Birdie_studying`	`pretty girls?:)`
`10:15.27`	`jolie`	`you go back to studyng`
`10:15.43`	`Birdie_studying`	`i'm taking a break`
`10:15.45`	`Birdie_studying`	`ahem`
`10:16.14`	`CBG`	`rofl.`
`10:16.24`	`CBG`	`I should be studying too... :P`
`10:16.39`	`jolie`	`go call a girlie , say you need a study partner..`
`10:16.43`	`jolie`	`gogo GO!`
`10:16.53`	`CBG`	`What girly?`
`10:17.04`	`jolie`	`what shall i know! pick up ur classmate list...`
`10:17.07`	`jolie`	`phone book`
`10:17.09`	`jolie`	`whatever!`
`10:17.43`	`CBG`	`You think the girls in my class like me?`
`10:17.44`	`CBG`	`haha!`
`10:18.14`	`jolie`	`with that attitude im sure you wont get any to like you :P`
`10:18.18`	`jolie`	`go make the move!`
`10:18.19`	`jolie`	`call.`
`10:18.22`	`CBG`	`hehe`
`10:18.26`	`jolie`	`say you wanna show her ur cool bzgame`
`10:18.32`	`CBG`	`lol.`
`10:18.39`	`CBG`	`Girls dont play GAMES. Tsk.`
`10:18.44`	`jolie`	`oooh they do`
`10:18.46`	`jolie`	`trsut me.`
`10:18.49`	`jolie`	`GO`
`10:18.49`	`Birdie_studying`	`au what an insult for so many people`
`10:19.00`	`CBG`	`lol.`
`10:19.21`	`CBG`	`Besides, I have none of their numbers and none are on msn.`
`10:19.41`	`jolie`	`ah but if you want the lates patch you know exacly how to get it right!?!?`
`10:19.45`	`jolie`	`go search!`
`10:19.47`	`jolie`	`...`
`10:19.49`	`jolie`	`afk now.`
`10:19.55`	`CBG`	`lates patch?`
`10:21.33`	`CBG`	`Jolie: Answer you'r phone!`
`10:23.56`	`jolie`	`well it might ring if you really dial, you know....`
`10:24.26`	`CBG`	`hehe`
`10:32.42`	`Pimpinella`	`jolie cares of the next generation of bzplayers ;)`
`10:33.18`	`Pimpinella`	`DB's oldest already plays iirc`
`10:33.31`	`Pimpinella`	`might be at an age of 4 or st`
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`10:35.17`	`Pimpinella`	`moin ToughShooter`
`10:37.05`	`ToughShooter`	`Morgen Pimpinella :)`
`10:38.09`	`Pimpinella`	`wow, bei dir ist noch morgen? biste umgezogen?`
`10:39.57`	`ToughShooter`	`Nö, nur werde ich um die Zeit erst so richtig wach`
`10:55.36`	`jolie`	`this is like teen confusion..`
`10:55.39`	`jolie`	`in nick.`
`10:55.47`	`CBG`	`huh?`
`10:56.05`	`Pimpinella`	`you made him nervous with all that chatter about girls and such`
`10:56.12`	`jolie`	`you think???`
`10:56.15`	`jolie`	`but isnt this normnal?`
`10:56.18`	`jolie`	`at teen time?`
`10:56.20`	`CBG`	`:(`
`10:56.29`	`jolie`	`to go out and get die maedchen?`
`10:56.38`	`jolie`	`defend ur self cbg`
`10:56.40`	`jolie`	`;)`
`10:56.44`	`CBG`	`~x de en die maedchen`
`10:56.49`	`ToughShooter`	`hehe`
`10:56.52`	`jolie`	`lol*`
`10:56.53`	`CBG`	`:o`
`10:57.10`	`jolie`	`go look .. harte junges.. or american pie ..`
`10:57.38`	`CBG`	`~x de en harte junges`
`10:57.47`	`CBG`	`:o !!!`
`10:57.51`	`Pimpinella`	`no, gils would just draw you of your computer...or even worse`
`10:57.54`	`Pimpinella`	`look tron`
`10:57.54`	`jolie`	`hard boys...`
`10:58.05`	`jolie`	`not really`
`10:58.09`	`CBG`	`I have no time for girls... :(`
`10:58.11`	`jolie`	`girls are more into puters than you think`
`10:58.20`	`CBG`	`Not the girls i know.`
`10:58.21`	`jolie`	`you just need to find their right tick ing point ;)`
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`10:58.56`	`Pimpinella`	`jolie: though those girls are found best on irc ;)`
`10:59.13`	`CBG`	`There are no girls here.... :P`
`10:59.32`	`Pimpinella`	`~fishslap CBG`
`10:59.33`	`ibot`	`ACTION slaps CBG up side the head with a wet fish.`
`10:59.43`	`CBG`	`~whaleslap Pimpinella`
`10:59.44`	`ibot`	`ACTION slaps Pimpinella upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh`
`10:59.46`	`ToughShooter`	`~bzfrag CBG`
`10:59.47`	`ibot`	`ACTION tries to kill CBG, but finds the shield flag`
`10:59.57`	`CBG`	`Zbzfrag ToughShooter`
`11:00.04`	`jolie`	`sigh*`
`11:00.06`	`CBG`	`~bzfrag TOughShooter`
`11:00.08`	`ibot`	`ACTION fries TOughShooter with a laser`
`11:00.12`	`jolie`	`see this is why girls dont hang around...`
`11:00.13`	`CBG`	`:P I win!`
`11:00.16`	`ToughShooter`	`~bzfrag CBG`
`11:00.17`	`ibot`	`ACTION blindsides CBG with an invisible bullet`
`11:00.24`	`CBG`	`But you'r dead?`
`11:00.36`	`ToughShooter`	`Spawned again :p`
`11:00.38`	`jolie`	`i cast a spell on him`
`11:00.41`	`CBG`	`grr`
`11:00.41`	`jolie`	`to not die`
`11:00.50`	`CBG`	`him? O.o`
`11:00.57`	`CBG`	`lol`
`11:01.19`	`ToughShooter`	`jolie: I've rebooted ;)`
`11:01.30`	`jolie`	`AWWWgrrr sexy!`
`11:01.52`	`jolie`	`i need a shower...`
`11:01.54`	`ToughShooter`	`Still same problem however :%`
`11:02.00`	`jolie`	`so what was the prob?`
`11:02.17`	`ToughShooter`	`Jittering me with WG while shooting`
`11:02.43`	`jolie`	`CBG: no sweetie ur just on hold*`
`11:03.07`	`Pimpinella`	`just a tactical break, to beat you again when you don't expect`
`11:03.21`	`ruskie`	`gaahh I hate boring games... the ones where one get's killed on every resapwn almost immediately..`
`11:03.28`	`jolie`	`cause he wants to show us that he is busy...`
`11:03.37`	`ruskie`	`away is pointles...`
`11:03.51`	`ruskie`	`a simple "afk -reason" is good enough for me`
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`12:52.24`	`CBG`	`Hi ;)`
`13:13.24`	`noyb`	`need a little help compiling SDL on solaris 10. here's what I get after ./configure;make: http://pastebin.ca/12684`
`13:20.03`	`blast007`	`did you do ./autogen first?`
`13:20.37`	`noyb`	`sorry, no. the INSTALL file says classic configure/make/make install`
`13:20.57`	`noyb`	`I'll do that.`
`13:21.36`	`noyb`	`./autogen.sh ?`
`13:22.11`	`blast007`	`ah, yeah`
`13:22.37`	`noyb`	`getting some messages like: /opt/csw/share/aclocal/pth.m4:61: warning: underquoted definition of AC_CHECK_PTH`
`13:23.31`	`blast007`	`hmm`
`13:25.18`	`Pimpinella`	`noyb: so you use release or cvs?`
`13:25.26`	`Grumbler`	`hmm, i alwasy did sh ./authgen.sh`
`13:25.37`	`Pimpinella`	`you need for cvs`
`13:25.48`	`noyb`	`release from site. but I gotta run to work... be back in about an hour.`
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`13:26.34`	`noyb`	`./autogen.sh will run it with sh with #!/bin/sh as first line.`
`13:26.42`	`noyb`	`bbs`
`13:27.10`	`Pimpinella`	`you _don't_ need to autogen for release`
`13:28.23`	`blast007`	`oh :)`
`13:31.15`	`Pimpinella`	`noyb: try configuring with --without-SDL`
`13:32.40`	`Pimpinella`	`if you're not interested in building the client you can also add --disable-client`
`13:36.14`	`Grumbler`	`yeah, it should`
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`13:36.29`	`Grumbler`	`just havent done that because the README doesnt say that`
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`13:40.35`	`Grumbler`	`i guess i am the only one that reads the README`
`13:40.49`	`jolie`	`aww`
`13:40.57`	`Grumbler`	`well, thats fine`
`13:41.20`	`Birdie`	`at least we still have the grumblers of this channel who do:-)`
`13:41.25`	`jolie`	`lol*`
`13:41.29`	`Grumbler`	`dang straight`
`13:41.31`	`RedBaron2`	`oh..we're suppossed to read the README?`
`13:41.49`	`RedBaron2`	`:p`
`13:41.49`	`jolie`	`nah just for Grumbler to read it`
`13:42.14`	`Grumbler`	`i bet none of you have read the output of ./configure as well`
`13:42.26`	`Birdie`	`ehm`
`13:42.34`	`Grumbler`	`i bet one beer`
`13:42.38`	`Birdie`	`no no`
`13:42.42`	`Birdie`	`i dont want to loose a beer:)`
`13:43.15`	`Grumbler`	`heh`
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`13:45.22`	`Birdie`	`ooh real love!`
`13:46.05`	`RedBaron2`	`yikes..`
`13:46.14`	`Birdie`	`:(`
`13:48.02`	`TheRedBaron`	`mornin apj :)`
`13:48.07`	`apj`	`why so sad my love?`
`13:50.46`	`TheRedBaron`	`i think he burnt his vol au vent...`
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`13:51.50`	`jolie`	`...`
`13:52.09`	`Birdie`	`lol`
`13:52.13`	`Birdie`	`hey it was very good!`
`13:52.21`	`Birdie`	`you should be proud on my cook skill`
`13:52.37`	`TheRedBaron`	`is the house still standing?`
`13:52.46`	`Birdie`	`lol`
`13:52.48`	`apj`	`is the house still burning?`
`13:52.51`	`Birdie`	`:(`
`13:53.17`	`TheRedBaron`	`did you cook lots of eggs over it? :)`
`13:53.26`	`Birdie`	`sniff:(`
`13:53.58`	`apj`	`maybe we were too mean`
`13:54.00`	`apj`	`Birdie: sorry`
`13:55.19`	`Birdie_studying`	`at least i'm not getting attacked behind my books;)`
`13:55.45`	`apj`	`unless you sneeze and they fall over you..`
`13:56.00`	`Birdie_studying`	`i'm not doing the things you do`
`13:56.05`	`Birdie_studying`	`i really study:)`
`13:57.07`	`apj`	`~dict sneeze`
`13:57.16`	`apj`	`yes, i did :)`
`14:00.02`	`apj`	`do i have a dark side?`
`14:00.14`	`Birdie_studying`	`you have another?`
`14:00.38`	`TheRedBaron`	`~apj`
`14:00.45`	`apj`	`are you talking about my evil twin brother jpa-?`
`14:01.05`	`TheRedBaron`	`well, if thats what you call him`
`14:01.20`	`Birdie_studying`	`you call that *`
`14:02.02`	`Thumper_`	`Star Wars episode VII - Revenge of Darth apj`
`14:02.41`	`TheRedBaron`	`rated R for violence and exteme evilness`
`14:03.56`	`Grumbler`	`~jpa`
`14:04.05`	`Grumbler`	`~jpa-`
`14:04.19`	`Grumbler`	`:( its gone`
`14:04.27`	`apj`	`:E`
`14:04.32`	`apj`	`~jpa_`
`14:04.33`	`ibot`	`somebody said jpa_ was an evil master whose primary goal is to take a karma lead over SportChick or to get free jars of Nutella......only time will tell...huaaahhhha`
`14:04.53`	`Grumbler`	`grumble, grumble, too many names`
`14:05.25`	`apj`	`Grumbler: sowwy`
`14:05.41`	`Grumbler`	`sowwy?`
`14:06.32`	`jolie`	`what time is it where jeff lives?`
`14:06.33`	`apj`	`*sorry`
`14:06.41`	`apj`	`~dikt sorry`
`14:06.42`	`ibot`	`Dictionary 'sorry': to want to hurt; to be evil.`
`14:07.20`	`apj`	`jolie: 7:07 am i think`
`14:07.21`	`Thumper_`	`jolie: what time is it where you live?`
`14:07.21`	`TheRedBaron`	`jolie, like 6 in the morning`
`14:07.52`	`TheRedBaron`	`I live in FL, he lives in Cali, 4 hour time difference`
`14:07.59`	`TheRedBaron`	`right now the time is 10:10`
`14:08.02`	`Thumper_`	`you asked this recently...`
`14:08.04`	`Thumper_`	`4?`
`14:08.06`	`Thumper_`	`you mean 3`
`14:08.18`	`jolie`	`no`
`14:08.27`	`TheRedBaron`	`pretty sure i mean 4, but i can be wrong :)`
`14:08.28`	`apj`	`i remember 10 FI-Cali`
`14:08.33`	`jolie`	`8 hours.`
`14:08.35`	`apj`	`would mean 7:08 am`
`14:08.48`	`jolie`	`no 8:10`
`14:08.51`	`Thumper_`	`EST is currently 10:08, PST = 7:08`
`14:09.08`	`jolie`	`hmpf...`
`14:09.10`	`TheRedBaron`	`~whaleslap apj for making me wrong`
`14:09.12`	`ibot`	`ACTION slaps apj for making me wrong upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh`
`14:10.40`	`Grumbler`	`sounds like jpa's sister has control of the computer now`
`14:10.55`	`apj`	`no she has not`
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`14:13.12`	`Pimpinella`	`omg, more of that brood?`
`14:14.55`	`TheRedBaron`	`time to bring in more barons...`
`14:15.17`	`jolie`	`Thumper_: its 16:16`
`14:17.14`	`Thumper_`	`jolie: so for future reference... Jeff's time is your time minus 9 hrs (assuming he is in PST timezone)`
`14:17.34`	`jolie`	`he mention 8 hours...`
`14:17.38`	`jolie`	`so...`
`14:25.52`	`jolie`	`tupo mio :'(`
`14:30.54`	`noyb`	`ok, I'm back.. reading thru the last hour.`
`14:31.00`	`noyb`	`thanks for the suggestions.`
`14:32.23`	`menotume`	`YAY!`
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`14:32.36`	`menotume`	`I think i have fixed the 'opaque radar rendering bug'`
`14:32.49`	`TheRedBaron`	`YAY!!!`
`14:33.53`	`RedBaron2`	`yay!`
`14:34.03`	`Thumper_`	`apj: interesting idea - re: PZ bullet patch`
`14:34.36`	`menotume`	`can any1 help test it ?`
`14:34.57`	`menotume`	`http://meno.zapto.org/bzcaps/opaqueRender.diff`
`14:35.20`	`menotume`	`that also allows setting the radarsize to >10 in GUI options`
`14:35.41`	`menotume`	`ooops, forgot a file :(`
`14:36.45`	`menotume`	`fixed`
`14:38.47`	`Grumbler`	`meno, whats the bug?`
`14:39.37`	`menotume`	`the bug ==> http://meno.zapto.org/bzcaps/bigradar01.png`
`14:39.43`	`TheRedBaron`	`yea, thats it`
`14:40.11`	`TheRedBaron`	`thats what i've played with since 1.7g`
`14:40.27`	`TheRedBaron`	`~menotume++`
`14:40.30`	`menotume`	`ya, if your radar is set to opaque`
`14:40.39`	`menotume`	`awww, shucks`
`14:41.22`	`menotume`	`I'll test for a while, then ask someone for a WinDoze build`
`14:41.40`	`TheRedBaron`	`now you partially know why i only play on a few servers...`
`14:41.52`	`menotume`	`i think this will fix a very small bug in Tupones' SDL fix too`
`14:42.15`	`TheRedBaron`	`because i have to manually type them in :)`
`14:42.22`	`menotume`	`hehe`
`14:43.35`	`RedBaron2`	`yea, and then you have the problem of trying to remember them all..`
`14:43.36`	`TheRedBaron`	`now i need a bigger monitor :)`
`14:44.10`	`menotume`	`now, to find the bug #(s)`
`14:45.34`	`apj`	`Thumper_: just so that i can scare bambi.. do not tell her`
`14:45.44`	`Thumper_`	`:-P`
`14:45.59`	`Thumper_`	`patches accepted ;)`
`14:46.08`	`apj`	`baha`
`14:51.20`	`apj`	`just replace return; with firingInfo.flagType = Flags::PhantomZone;`
`14:51.44`	`menotume`	`I can't find the bug reports for 'opaque radar' - must have been deleted or closed`
`14:53.12`	`TheRedBaron`	`did someone submit it?`
`14:53.22`	`TheRedBaron`	`I know i never did...`
`14:54.07`	`apj`	`Thumper_: do you need a patch or is that enough?`
`14:55.02`	`Thumper_`	`apj: That's close but wrong :) I'll try it`
`14:55.20`	`apj`	`wrong? how?`
`14:55.32`	`menotume`	`TRB: yes, i remember adding a screenshot a while back`
`14:55.48`	`Thumper_`	`well firingInfo isn't declared there (next line after that) and there is a check later for tank with no flag`
`14:55.52`	`Thumper_`	`working on it`
`14:56.25`	`menotume`	`I'll look into going a step furhter, and 'dimming' the chat window when in menu dialogs`
`14:56.39`	`menotume`	`err, chat & radar`
`14:59.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`well, right now, with the radar opaque, you can't "turn it off"`
`14:59.30`	`TheRedBaron`	`you know how you can close the chat and radar window for taking screen shots? well you can only do that if you don't have the opacity turned all the way up.`
`15:00.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`and...`
`15:00.09`	`TheRedBaron`	`well,`
`15:00.33`	`TheRedBaron`	`seeing as your on a rampange and fixing the radar. i've got a list of 'small' problems i can give you :)`
`15:00.39`	`TheRedBaron`	`if you want them :)`
`15:04.41`	`menotume`	`lol`
`15:04.49`	`menotume`	`hold on - not quite done yet`
`15:05.53`	`menotume`	`http://meno.zapto.org/bzcaps/needdim.png <== now i need to 'dim' the chat/radar panels`
`15:06.06`	`menotume`	`when in serverlist/menus`
`15:07.09`	`Grumbler`	`looks more like a better bug than a fix ;)`
`15:07.21`	`menotume`	`welll ... it IS better`
`15:07.47`	`Grumbler`	`ah...betterbug`
`15:07.53`	`menotume`	`ya :)`
`15:07.56`	`Grumbler`	`like betterman without the anime`
`15:08.55`	`TheRedBaron`	`sounds like betty bought a bit of bitter butter...`
`15:10.44`	`TheRedBaron`	`she said, if i put this betterbug into the code, it will make my code bitter`
`15:11.07`	`TheRedBaron`	`or whatever...`
`15:11.40`	`learner`	`mm.. bitter code`
`15:11.43`	`Grumbler`	`have to cut the fat out of that butter code`
`15:12.28`	`TheRedBaron`	`so betty went out and bought a bit of better radar, and made her code better.`
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`15:12.58`	`TheRedBaron`	`my creativity is now exhausted...`
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`15:13.21`	`Grumbler`	`wow, thats sad ;)`
`15:14.46`	`TheRedBaron`	`tragic.`
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`15:16.13`	`menotume`	`learner awakes !`
`15:16.38`	`RedBaron2`	`hey SC`
`15:16.47`	`Birdie_studying`	`good morning sportchick`
`15:17.33`	`menotume`	`what are you studying, Birdie_studying? The irc chat window?`
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`15:17.52`	`Birdie_studying`	`i came back 30 seconds ago!`
`15:18.10`	`SportChick`	`Birdie_studying: gmorning`
`15:18.25`	`apj`	`Birdie_studying: you should be studying`
`15:18.33`	`fabianne`	`meno meno`
`15:21.16`	`Grumbler`	`good morning SportChick`
`15:22.04`	`SportChick`	`gmorning grumbler`
`15:22.56`	`creeperz`	`:-)`
`15:24.12`	`TheRedBaron`	`good afternoon all!`
`15:24.35`	`CBG`	`:)`
`15:25.16`	`TheRedBaron`	`how do you people sleep in so? do you have a job? a life? Whatever you have that lets you sleep in, can join in?`
`15:25.25`	`TheRedBaron`	`;)`
`15:25.40`	`*** join/#bzflag bz9679 (~d95df40b@webchat.bzflag.bz)`
`15:26.02`	`bz9679`	`hi everyone`
`15:26.11`	`learner`	`TheRedBaron: sleep.. what's that? like a long variation of a sheep?`
`15:26.20`	`bz9679`	`hello?????????`
`15:26.26`	`bz9679`	`can anyone say hi????????????`
`15:26.30`	`CBG`	`Hi Yugi.`
`15:26.33`	`learner`	`bz9679: patience?????`
`15:26.36`	`menotume`	`not yugi`
`15:26.37`	`bz9679`	`what?`
`15:26.41`	`bz9679`	`what is?`
`15:26.51`	`bz9679`	`what is menotume?`
`15:26.54`	`CBG`	`You sound and act like him/her/it`
`15:27.02`	`bz9679`	`who?`
`15:27.08`	`TheRedBaron`	`Learner: i'm not sure myself... I hear some poeple count sheep when they sleep...`
`15:27.08`	`CBG`	`Yugi.`
`15:27.13`	`bz9679`	`and?`
`15:27.17`	`CBG`	`yep. Definatly sounds like yuig. Rofl.`
`15:27.19`	`bz9679`	`i can be yugi`
`15:27.25`	`bz9679`	`why not?`
`15:27.28`	`learner`	`can you be quiet too?`
`15:27.33`	`bz9679`	`why?`
`15:27.34`	`CBG`	`You mean you are?`
`15:27.41`	`bz9679`	`i can speak if i want here`
`15:27.45`	`TheRedBaron`	`because silence is golden`
`15:27.45`	`learner`	`because if you're not, you will be made quiet`
`15:27.51`	`CBG`	`Not if an OP bans you...`
`15:27.52`	`bz9679`	`why`
`15:27.54`	`learner`	`try to stay on topic :)`
`15:28.02`	`CBG`	`This is the bzflag dev channel... ;)`
`15:28.03`	`bz9679`	`i only want to speak here`
`15:28.07`	`bz9679`	`i know`
`15:28.16`	`CBG`	`Do you have something to ask?`
`15:28.16`	`TheRedBaron`	`say something constructive then.`
`15:28.24`	`Birdie_studying`	`or leave`
`15:28.45`	`bz9679`	`i have to`
`15:28.50`	`Birdie_studying`	`ok`
`15:28.51`	`bz9679`	`the gu league`
`15:28.52`	`menotume`	`oh, my bad, it is Saturn`
`15:28.56`	`bz9679`	`the gu league`
`15:29.01`	`menotume`	`another IP :)`
`15:29.09`	`Birdie_studying`	`how much ranges so far?`
`15:29.15`	`CBG`	`That makes 4.`
`15:29.19`	`menotume`	`3 now`
`15:29.23`	`bz9679`	`i have globally registered and on gu league`
`15:29.28`	`CBG`	`he had 3 yesterday?`
`15:29.34`	`bz9679`	`and i cannot play on gu league`
`15:29.37`	`menotume`	`2 that i know of`
`15:29.39`	`bz9679`	`do you listen to me?`
`15:29.42`	`CBG`	`No.`
`15:29.46`	`Birdie_studying`	`62.155 is one of them`
`15:29.48`	`CBG`	`Whats the silence command?`
`15:29.48`	`learner`	`i'm trying not to`
`15:29.52`	`bz9679`	`no`
`15:29.54`	`*** join/#bzflag darth_mall (~evan@70.57.48.59)`
`15:29.58`	`Birdie_studying`	`217. etc is another`
`15:30.05`	`CBG`	`Anyone know the silence command???`
`15:30.07`	`bz9679`	`you cannot stop to let me speak`
`15:30.09`	`bz9679`	`noooooo`
`15:30.12`	`bz9679`	`please not`
`15:30.25`	`CBG`	`The more you speak, the more I want to silence you.`
`15:30.34`	`Birdie_studying`	`yay putted him on ignorelist`
`15:30.54`	`CBG`	`How? :(`
`15:30.59`	`blast007`	`/ignore`
`15:31.04`	`menotume`	`Saturn, read this: http://www.gamesunited.de/ib/index.php?showtopic=10965`
`15:31.05`	`CBG`	`Oh. thanks blast`
`15:31.49`	`bz9679`	`aha`
`15:32.48`	`*** join/#bzflag Birdie (~birdie@d51A465C1.access.telenet.be)`
`15:33.05`	`bz9679`	`why did you go away birdie?`
`15:33.32`	`CBG`	`bz9679: Do you have a problem or question?`
`15:33.58`	`bz9679`	`nope`
`15:34.00`	`bz9679`	`i have asked`
`15:34.04`	`bz9679`	`already`
`15:34.11`	`CBG`	`Ok. Good. :)`
`15:34.47`	`bz9679`	`http://www.gamesunited.de/ib/index.php?showtopic=10965`
`15:34.56`	`bz9679`	`that was the`
`15:35.04`	`CBG`	`Ok. :)`
`15:35.16`	`bz9679`	`k`
`15:35.38`	`bz9679`	`password`
`15:36.45`	`*** join/#bzflag ToughShooter (~ts@p54B01242.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)`
`15:36.53`	`bz9679`	`tschuesskowski`
`15:37.00`	`*** part/#bzflag bz9679 (~d95df40b@webchat.bzflag.bz)`
`15:37.09`	`Birdie`	`yay he left`
`15:37.38`	`ToughShooter`	`Yugi again?`
`15:37.42`	`Birdie`	`ya`
`15:37.50`	`menotume`	`Birdie: I told him to some th bzleaue and ask for you :)`
`15:38.05`	`Birdie`	`i hope that isnt true;(`
`15:38.20`	`learner`	`the "stream of thought" style messaging gets annoying pretty fast ..`
`15:38.47`	`yugi`	`i'm looking for birdie...`
`15:38.50`	`learner`	`aww`
`15:38.52`	`menotume`	`learner: he's a total PITA on the bz servers`
`15:38.58`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o learner] by ChanServ`
`15:39.03`	`*** kick/#bzflag [yugi!~brlcad@brlcad.bronze.supporter.pdpc] by learner (tee hee)`
`15:39.06`	`Birdie`	`lol`
`15:39.08`	`blast007`	`lol`
`15:39.10`	`menotume`	`rofl`
`15:39.28`	`learner`	`hmm. no reconnect blush`
`15:39.57`	`ToughShooter`	`learner: I was unable to get a compiling source code. Even build of 17th this month which had compiled earlier with a little patch didn't worked`
`15:40.21`	`Grumbler`	`still at MAL=4 and rising i see`
`15:40.52`	`RedBaron2`	`you offended him learner..`
`15:40.59`	`ToughShooter`	`What's the highest MAL-value possible?`
`15:41.05`	`*** join/#bzflag TheRedBaron (~d8ada652@genesis.concept69.de)`
`15:41.07`	`learner`	`RedBaron2: aww :) he's usually a good Sport ;)`
`15:41.14`	`blast007`	`isn't lower values a higher risk? like defcon?`
`15:41.16`	`RedBaron2`	`hehe lol`
`15:41.34`	`TheRedBaron`	`lol`
`15:41.36`	`RedBaron2`	`lol`
`15:41.37`	`orange`	`who, TRB? He's a sore loser... he's insane... he's... oh, he's here now.`
`15:41.38`	`menotume`	`oooh - get a room !`
`15:41.44`	`Grumbler`	`the hug chain has started again`
`15:41.51`	`RedBaron2`	`menotume, eeeww!`
`15:42.10`	`TheRedBaron`	`eek!`
`15:42.12`	`menotume`	`group hug`
`15:42.16`	`blast007`	`eeek`
`15:42.19`	`fabianne`	`hey.. too many guys...`
`15:42.20`	`*** part/#bzflag TheRedBaron (~d8ada652@genesis.concept69.de)`
`15:42.25`	`learner`	`heh`
`15:42.25`	`RedBaron2`	`this channell gets scarier as time goes on..`
`15:42.25`	`Birdie_studying`	`no to few girls`
`15:42.26`	`BenUrban`	`lmfao`
`15:42.28`	`fabianne`	`nothing can come out of this...`
`15:42.32`	`orange`	`what I meant to say is TRB is a good guy... oh, wait, he's gone now`
`15:42.34`	`fabianne`	`+good`
`15:42.39`	`*** join/#bzflag TheRedBaron (~d8ada652@genesis.concept69.de)`
`15:42.50`	`Grumbler`	`sshh`
`15:43.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`lol`
`15:43.10`	`ToughShooter`	`learner: Should I file a bug instead?`
`15:43.11`	`TheRedBaron`	`~learner++`
`15:43.13`	`orange`	`mmm, orange slush`
`15:43.15`	`menotume`	`orange slush ?`
`15:43.15`	`CBG`	`~whaleslap everyone for not hugging back.`
`15:43.16`	`ibot`	`ACTION slaps everyone for not hugging back. upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh`
`15:43.20`	`menotume`	`heh`
`15:43.46`	`CBG`	`ibot: learn to better formulate your sentences.`
`15:44.00`	`BenUrban`	`~whaleslap CBG for improper grammar`
`15:44.01`	`ibot`	`ACTION slaps CBG for improper grammar upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh`
`15:44.16`	`CBG`	`Me?`
`15:44.18`	`TheRedBaron`	`learner: i'm slow on the draw :)`
`15:44.19`	`BenUrban`	`hmm`
`15:44.31`	`BenUrban`	`that shuold've been parenthetical`
`15:44.35`	`CBG`	`inproper grammah?`
`15:44.36`	`learner`	`TheRedBaron: :)`
`15:44.54`	`BenUrban`	`"Me fail English? That's unpossible!"`
`15:45.02`	`blast007`	`hehe`
`15:45.04`	`TheRedBaron`	`no, its improbable`
`15:45.06`	`CBG`	`Indeeed.`
`15:45.26`	`CBG`	`But please don't joke.`
`15:45.28`	`BenUrban`	`^^^ blatantly stolen verbatim from the simpsons`
`15:45.39`	`CBG`	`I had english lit exam yesterday. :(`
`15:46.07`	`CBG`	`^^^ = Three eyed fish. ;)`
`15:46.13`	`BenUrban`	`lmfao`
`15:46.18`	`learner`	`Kimprobable`
`15:46.27`	`TheRedBaron`	`no no no!`
`15:46.39`	`Grumbler`	`air bender?`
`15:46.46`	`TheRedBaron`	`don't ruin a good word by giving it that connotation`
`15:46.46`	`CBG`	`Gah!`
`15:46.52`	`CBG`	`You have to add that to ibot!!!`
`15:46.58`	`BenUrban`	`hehehe`
`15:47.05`	`BenUrban`	`indeed`
`15:47.05`	`CBG`	`no. REALLY!!`
`15:47.11`	`learner`	`TheRedBaron: heh, I doubt most here got the connotation :)`
`15:47.11`	`CBG`	`Hey. Dont steal my word.`
`15:47.16`	`BenUrban`	`who manages ibot?`
`15:47.26`	`CBG`	`TimRiker ?`
`15:47.29`	`*** join/#bzflag jpa- (jpa@lakka.kapsi.fi)`
`15:47.46`	`TheRedBaron`	`oh no, not him`
`15:47.50`	`CBG`	`ibot: can you remember to pass on a message to your daddy?`
`15:48.12`	`BenUrban`	`:P`
`15:48.13`	`blast007`	`~literal whaleslap`
`15:48.14`	`learner`	`she can`
`15:48.23`	`blast007`	`hmm`
`15:48.23`	`TheRedBaron`	`learner: IT can`
`15:48.28`	`TheRedBaron`	`~gender`
`15:48.29`	`ibot`	`I'm sexless`
`15:48.34`	`BenUrban`	`hehe`
`15:48.34`	`RedBaron2`	`lol`
`15:48.44`	`CBG`	`ibot: Tell your daddy to add a new "~slap": "slaps PERSON on the head with a three-eyed fish called blinky."`
`15:48.52`	`learner`	`TheRedBaron: she's genderconfused`
`15:48.52`	`CBG`	`ibot: No, cbg, I won't. (target invalid?)`
`15:48.54`	`CBG`	`heeh`
`15:48.59`	`learner`	`~gender`
`15:49.00`	`ibot`	`I'm gay`
`15:49.11`	`learner`	`~gender`
`15:49.12`	`ibot`	`I'm lesbian`
`15:49.14`	`BenUrban`	`lol`
`15:49.17`	`CBG`	`thats sexual orentation not gender`
`15:49.23`	`CBG`	`gender is male/female...`
`15:49.27`	`CBG`	`stoopid`
`15:49.32`	`blast007`	`~gender`
`15:49.33`	`ibot`	`I'm not sure`
`15:49.37`	`BenUrban`	`haha`
`15:49.37`	`blast007`	`:)`
`15:49.46`	`learner`	`CBG: that's why she's confused`
`15:49.49`	`CBG`	`~sexual orientaion?`
`15:49.53`	`CBG`	`She?`
`15:49.56`	`BenUrban`	`well i'd certainly agree that it's sexless...`
`15:49.56`	`learner`	`she`
`15:50.00`	`CBG`	`guu is she, not ibot too?`
`15:50.07`	`TheRedBaron`	`guu: gender`
`15:50.07`	`CBG`	`guu: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the addhostmask command).`
`15:50.08`	`guu`	`But Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the addhostmask command), CBG.`
`15:50.09`	`guu`	`Im all woman baby`
`15:50.11`	`CBG`	`haha`
`15:50.20`	`BenUrban`	`heh`
`15:50.21`	`CBG`	`This conversation is making all the bots send me messages`
`15:50.29`	`BenUrban`	`lmao`
`15:50.41`	`learner`	`I go by ibot's original caretaker, who declared ibot a she`
`15:50.50`	`CBG`	`guu gave me the erro above`
`15:50.50`	`guu`	`CBG: Tah mah de`
`15:50.56`	`CBG`	`argh!`
`15:50.56`	`BenUrban`	`lmfao`
`15:51.02`	`CBG`	`ibot told me "No, cbg, I won't. (target invalid?)"`
`15:51.13`	`CBG`	`Im freaked out man!`
`15:51.16`	`BenUrban`	`that'll teach you to start messages with the name of the bot`
`15:51.23`	`CBG`	`Are you sure guu is actually a bot?`
`15:51.30`	`CBG`	`~kill guu.`
`15:51.32`	`ibot`	`ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized graviton gun at guu.`
`15:51.36`	`CBG`	`W00t.`
`15:51.39`	`BenUrban`	`lmao`
`15:51.41`	`CBG`	`guu is no longer.`
`15:51.45`	`BenUrban`	`LMAO`
`15:51.52`	`CBG`	`guu says "Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the addhostmask command)."`
`15:51.52`	`guu`	`Gotcha!`
`15:51.56`	`BenUrban`	`haha`
`15:51.57`	`CBG`	`ARGH!!!`
`15:52.00`	`apj`	`CBG: so register <3`
`15:52.09`	`CBG`	`jpa = apj ?`
`15:52.10`	`menotume`	`guu is no shorter, either`
`15:52.16`	`CBG`	`ROFL!`
`15:52.20`	`BenUrban`	`LMFAO`
`15:52.22`	`jpa-`	`CBG: no`
`15:52.29`	`CBG`	`what response you get, meno?`
`15:52.33`	`BenUrban`	`~whaleslap CBG (for being careless)`
`15:52.34`	`ibot`	`ACTION slaps CBG (for being careless) upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh`
`15:52.39`	`CBG`	`:(`
`15:52.46`	`TheRedBaron`	`apj, jpa-, something fishy is going on...`
`15:52.47`	`menotume`	`same`
`15:53.17`	`CBG`	`Anyway. I think I am registered...`
`15:53.24`	`blast007`	`"* [apj] (jpa@xob.kapsi.fi)" ;)`
`15:53.28`	`CBG`	`hehe`
`15:53.45`	`TheRedBaron`	`the best part of my job is lunch...`
`15:53.50`	`blast007`	`heh`
`15:54.06`	`*** join/#bzflag brad2901 (brad2901@ACBC2F3C.ipt.aol.com)`
`15:54.06`	`TheRedBaron`	`I work in a doctor's office, Drug reps often bring free lunch.`
`15:54.07`	`CBG`	`Why do you all abuse ME? :( lol`
`15:54.24`	`BenUrban`	`CBG: ask guu :D`
`15:54.25`	`fabianne`	`uhm... cause you probably let urself be abuse...`
`15:54.25`	`orange`	`isn't that ill-egal`
`15:54.33`	`TheRedBaron`	`cbg, you set yourself up for it.`
`15:54.42`	`fabianne`	`said so.`
`15:54.43`	`CBG`	`guu: why do they all abuse me?`
`15:54.44`	`guu`	`Dunno, CBG.`
`15:54.49`	`BenUrban`	`hehe`
`15:54.55`	`CBG`	`That was tame for guu.`
`15:55.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: well, drug = prescription medicine`
`15:55.08`	`TheRedBaron`	`in this case`
`15:55.17`	`orange`	`yes, yes, I mean bribing doctors`
`15:55.25`	`TheRedBaron`	`no no, not bribing.`
`15:55.33`	`orange`	`oh...`
`15:55.35`	`CBG`	`rofl`
`15:55.37`	`orange`	`gastronomically coercing them`
`15:55.42`	`BenUrban`	`lmao`
`15:55.48`	`RedBaron2`	`lol`
`15:55.54`	`BenUrban`	`so the food is tainted?`
`15:56.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange: don't confuse me while i try to explain :)`
`15:56.01`	`BenUrban`	`:D`
`15:56.19`	`orange`	`I still say it's ill-egal, or should be`
`15:56.31`	`TheRedBaron`	`why? i like free lunches!!`
`15:56.45`	`orange`	`well, it's OK for the doctor's cow-orkers to get free lunch`
`15:56.50`	`TheRedBaron`	`its kinda of like lobbyist, and crongressmen...`
`15:56.50`	`learner`	`damn, can't use +R.. you are all identified :)`
`15:56.52`	`CBG`	`How does one identify ones-self across all channels?`
`15:56.52`	`BenUrban`	`orange: as long as there is currency, it will corrupt people`
`15:57.06`	`BenUrban`	`CBG: try "CBG"`
`15:57.07`	`BenUrban`	`:D`
`15:57.10`	`orange`	`hmmm, hint taken learner :-)`
`15:57.12`	`CBG`	`CBG`
`15:57.16`	`CBG`	`nope. no luck.`
`15:57.27`	`TheRedBaron`	`orange. i'm no COW - orker.`
`15:57.41`	`orange`	`methinks someone doesn't read dilbert`
`15:57.54`	`TheRedBaron`	`you think correctly :)`
`15:57.56`	`learner`	`orange: unfortunately, the only ones that probably will get the hint are the ones that aren't of concern :)`
`15:58.16`	`TheRedBaron`	`learner: hint taken here too, if orange would stop asking questions...`
`15:58.20`	`TheRedBaron`	`:)`
`15:58.23`	`BenUrban`	`dilbert hasn't been in the comics section of my newspaper in a long time`
`15:58.27`	`BenUrban`	`:(`
`15:58.37`	`orange`	`we'll move it to #bzleague, where serious discussions are quite rare :-)`
`15:58.52`	`TheRedBaron`	`good idea`
`15:59.56`	`BenUrban`	`s/erker/orker/`
`16:01.49`	`RedBaron2`	`yay for free lunch!`
`16:09.52`	`TheRedBaron`	`learner has the power to have this channel go from full mayhem, to dead silence in a matter of minutes...`
`16:10.01`	`TheRedBaron`	`fear the learner`
`16:11.02`	`fabianne`	`tssk`
`16:11.21`	`fabianne`	`dont you know that dig that barks doesnt bite? ;)`
`16:11.25`	`fabianne`	`dig/dog`
`16:12.04`	`TheRedBaron`	`i've heard some say that, but i never worked up the guts to see if it was really true :)`
`16:12.24`	`fabianne`	`try it , you might find interesting things out`
`16:12.42`	`learner`	`dig dug!`
`16:13.04`	`fabianne`	`long ago learner long ago...`
`16:13.10`	`fabianne`	`tskkk`
`16:13.26`	`fabianne`	`if ull do the bite you gotta do it right ;)`
`16:13.49`	`learner`	`dig dug is a fun game, simple appeal`
`16:14.12`	`fabianne`	`yeah.. dig dug`
`16:14.26`	`TheRedBaron`	`interesting things? sounds to obscure to risk life and limb.`
`16:14.47`	`fabianne`	`the one who doesnt risk... stays like you :P`
`16:15.13`	`TheRedBaron`	`fat, dumb and happy? :P`
`16:15.20`	`blast007`	`:)`
`16:15.41`	`learner`	`TheRedBaron: be wary of advice from someone who doesn't really hang around this channel much :)`
`16:16.08`	`learner`	`or go ahead and test :)`
`16:16.21`	`*** join/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@host-84-222-136-114.cust-adsl.tiscali.it)`
`16:16.28`	`fabianne`	`i have done my testing i know what i talk about, dont we learner ?`
`16:16.30`	`learner`	`ciao signore`
`16:16.32`	`fabianne`	`tupo mio!!`
`16:16.37`	`Tupone`	`:)`
`16:16.47`	`Tupone`	`hola learner`
`16:17.13`	`TheRedBaron`	`Learner: I think i'll go be the maxim "ignorance is bliss"`
`16:17.46`	`learner`	`fabianne: you've only escaped penalty as you've mostly behaved (with maybe the exception of your depart message sometimes)`
`16:18.03`	`fabianne`	`hah`
`16:19.17`	`learner`	`TheRedBaron: you really think you could be in Maxim? :)`
`16:19.26`	`learner`	`somehow I doubt you look that good in a thong`
`16:19.32`	`TheRedBaron`	`learner: ug...`
`16:19.41`	`learner`	`hehe`
`16:19.47`	`TheRedBaron`	`that magazine ruined a good word...`
`16:19.50`	`jpa-`	`TheRedBaron in thongs.. mmmmmmmm`
`16:20.16`	`TheRedBaron`	`jpa-, evil! bad!, go confess`
`16:20.19`	`learner`	`now if you go BY the maximum (or buy it, whatever) .. :)`
`16:20.23`	`jpa-`	`sorry`
`16:20.46`	`TheRedBaron`	`jpa-, nah, no offense taken!`
`16:21.03`	`TheRedBaron`	`yea be/by`
`16:21.03`	`blast007`	`:)`
`16:21.55`	`blast007`	`I'm over here`
`16:21.57`	`blast007`	`not there`
`16:22.42`	`jpa-`	`:/`
`16:23.36`	`jpa-`	`~gender jpa-`
`16:23.37`	`ibot`	`jpa- is male`
`16:23.37`	`BenUrban`	`but you're always hugging everyone...`
`16:23.47`	`brad2901`	`~gender`
`16:23.48`	`ibot`	`I'm pregnant`
`16:23.51`	`BenUrban`	`lmfao`
`16:23.51`	`brad2901`	`~gender brad`
`16:23.52`	`ibot`	`brad is neuter`
`16:23.56`	`brad2901`	`..`
`16:23.59`	`blast007`	`lol`
`16:23.59`	`jpa-`	`~gender brad2901`
`16:24.00`	`ibot`	`brad2901 is hermaphroditic`
`16:24.00`	`BenUrban`	`LMAO`
`16:24.04`	`BenUrban`	`ROFLMFAO`
`16:24.11`	`jpa-`	`~gender BenUrban`
`16:24.12`	`ibot`	`BenUrban is hermaphroditic`
`16:24.13`	`brad2901`	`~dict hermaphroditic`
`16:24.13`	`blast007`	`~gender BenUrban`
`16:24.14`	`ibot`	`BenUrban is cowboyneal`
`16:24.29`	`TheRedBaron`	`learner, my apologies for starting this up again...`
`16:24.37`	`TheRedBaron`	`:)`
`16:26.37`	`blast007`	`lol`
`16:26.39`	`TheRedBaron`	`blast007, quick question on the ileague. I guess you haven't worked on it in a while, but do you have the source code for the website`
`16:26.45`	`TheRedBaron`	`(or whatever you call it)`
`16:26.49`	`blast007`	`yeah`
`16:27.02`	`blast007`	`and I've actually started some new code for it`
`16:27.51`	`fabianne`	`lol*`
`16:27.52`	`*** part/#bzflag brad2901 (brad2901@brad2901.user)`
`16:28.02`	`fabianne`	`i think he felt threaten there...`
`16:28.06`	`fabianne`	`and here :D`
`16:28.09`	`blast007`	`only done about 2 days of code for it, though`
`16:28.21`	`TheRedBaron`	`blast007, cool.`
`16:28.28`	`jpa-`	`ibot: brad2901 is an english super-cutie boy.. very huggable`
`16:28.29`	`ibot`	`...but brad2901 is already something else...`
`16:28.35`	`jpa-`	`ibot: brad2901 is also an english super-cutie boy.. very huggable`
`16:28.36`	`ibot`	`jpa-: okay`
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`16:29.50`	`TheRedBaron`	`blast007, some players still want to incorporate all league styles and and ladders together...`
`16:30.32`	`TheRedBaron`	`but there is no rush yet.`
`16:30.40`	`blast007`	`I'm hoping to create a free-form system to allow new game styles to be added easily`
`16:30.58`	`TheRedBaron`	`i'm just wondering if there is any possibility and compatibility between the curent league code and the ileague code.`
`16:31.12`	`blast007`	`probably not`
`16:33.00`	`TheRedBaron`	`instead of having these ideas, but relying on the work of others... makes me feel like a bum.`
`16:33.01`	`blast007`	`http://ileague.omegadev.uni.cc/ (most pages aren't there yet)`
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`16:39.39`	`TheRedBaron`	`blast007: impressive!`
`16:39.48`	`TheRedBaron`	`~blast007++`
`16:39.52`	`blast007`	`:)`
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`16:41.33`	`blast007`	`~blinky CBG`
`16:41.34`	`ibot`	`ACTION slaps CBG on the head with a three-eyed fish named Blinky`
`16:41.37`	`blast007`	`;)`
`16:41.38`	`CBG`	`:o`
`16:41.45`	`CBG`	`W000000t! :D`
`16:41.52`	`CBG`	`Nice one blast007!`
`16:42.06`	`blast007`	`hehe`
`16:43.25`	`TheRedBaron`	`okies, i'm outta here. take care guys`
`16:43.36`	`CBG`	`Cya :)`
`16:45.57`	`RedBaron2`	`ok i'm out too`
`16:46.03`	`RedBaron2`	`laterz :)`
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`16:55.11`	`CBG`	`ibot: gender?`
`16:55.15`	`ibot`	`I'm lesbian`
`16:55.22`	`CBG`	`~blinky herself`
`16:55.23`	`ibot`	`ACTION slaps herself on the head with a three-eyed fish named Blinky`
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`17:17.01`	`jpa-`	`~brad2901`
`17:17.02`	`ibot`	`brad2901 doesnt like baseflagpassing, or an english super-cutie boy.. very huggable`
`17:17.55`	`CBG`	`forget brad2901`
`17:17.56`	`guu`	`I've never heard of brad2901, CBG!`
`17:18.17`	`CBG`	`ibot: no, brad2901 is a little kid. :P`
`17:18.18`	`ibot`	`okay, CBG`
`17:18.40`	`jpa-`	`ibot: brad2901 is also very cute and huggable`
`17:18.41`	`ibot`	`jpa-: okay`
`17:35.18`	`CBG`	`ibot: jpa-`
`17:35.33`	`CBG`	`ibot: whats jpa?`
`17:35.38`	`CBG`	`eh.`
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`17:45.34`	`bz9154`	`hi`
`17:45.40`	`ruskie`	`lo`
`17:45.50`	`bz9154`	`and?`
`17:45.55`	`bz9154`	`what's up?`
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`17:46.17`	`BenUrban`	`well obviously lo is not up`
`17:46.20`	`bz9154`	`who is an admin of a bzflag server?`
`17:46.42`	`bz9154`	`who is an admin of a bzflag server?`
`17:47.07`	`Birdie`	`different admins on every server`
`17:49.41`	`bz9154`	`not you birdie`
`17:49.48`	`bz9154`	`other which are online here now`
`17:51.27`	`bz9154`	`birdie?`
`17:52.35`	`bz9154`	`ik ben op zoek naar een sulky of 2-wieler voor mijn Belgisch trekpaard voor een mooi prijsje. Er moeten wel 2 personen opkunnen. Ook zoek ik nog een gareel. Als je dit hebt en weg doet, contacteer me dan via gsm of mail.`
`17:54.00`	`bz9154`	`ok, bye, he doesnt want to answer`
`17:54.04`	`bz9154`	`nhe is sleeping`
`17:54.08`	`jolie`	`he isnt.`
`17:54.34`	`_Manu_`	`~n`
`17:54.35`	`ibot`	`[n] the disease bzflag players get when they play too much`
`17:54.46`	`bz9154`	`wait`
`17:54.50`	`jolie`	`shhh let the yogi thing talk...`
`17:54.50`	`bz9154`	`i have a question`
`17:54.55`	`jolie`	`no you dont.`
`17:54.58`	`bz9154`	`what is infinite times 1`
`17:55.06`	`bz9154`	`what is infinite times 1`
`17:55.11`	`bz9154`	`it is a math question`
`17:55.27`	`bz9154`	`sry`
`17:55.33`	`bz9154`	`ninfinite times 0`
`17:55.43`	`bz9154`	`i say that infinite times 0 is 1`
`17:56.25`	`jolie`	`whatever happend to yogi the bear...`
`18:01.27`	`jpa-`	`bz9154: it is 0`
`18:04.57`	`creeperz`	`what?`
`18:05.00`	`creeperz`	`wtf?`
`18:05.05`	`creeperz`	`anything times 0 is always 0`
`18:05.30`	`ToughShooter`	`~x de en kommutieren`
`18:05.31`	`creeperz`	`I thought this was very well explainedi n 3rd grade`
`18:05.56`	`jolie`	`why WHY .. would you get involve in such a talk.. for...`
`18:05.58`	`jolie`	`:)`
`18:07.32`	`creeperz`	`plus thats a stupid question any how`
`18:07.40`	`creeperz`	`because infinite has no measurement`
`18:07.59`	`jolie`	`why WHY .. would you get involve in such a talk.. for... <---`
`18:08.19`	`jolie`	`i dont get it... i must look somewhere other :D`
`18:18.21`	`Pimpinella`	`und was wolte der jetzt mit einer Kutsche?`
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`18:19.04`	`Pimpinella`	`DarthValou: welcome back my dear`
`18:19.38`	`_Manu_`	`:)`
`18:19.46`	`Pimpinella`	`hope you're fine`
`18:20.15`	`Tupone`	`jpa-: infinite x 0 -> undefined`
`18:20.33`	`DarthValou`	`hello Pimpinella :o)`
`18:20.40`	`DarthValou`	`doing fine, thx !`
`18:20.41`	`Pimpinella`	`:)`
`18:20.43`	`DarthValou`	`and you?`
`18:20.56`	`Pimpinella`	`me too, thank you`
`18:21.04`	`DarthValou`	`:)`
`18:21.07`	`Pimpinella`	`not yet finished work tough`
`18:21.11`	`DarthValou`	`oucha`
`18:21.15`	`DarthValou`	`still lots to do?`
`18:21.22`	`Pimpinella`	`by the way, z around?`
`18:21.36`	`DarthValou`	`should come on xchat soon`
`18:21.40`	`DarthValou`	`wait, ill tell him :)`
`18:21.51`	`Pimpinella`	`we have a math question`
`18:22.13`	`DarthValou`	`ooooh!`
`18:22.18`	`DarthValou`	`he'll love that :D`
`18:22.54`	`Pimpinella`	`sry, gt go, but plz ask him to tall the audience the result of infinite times zero`
`18:23.02`	`DarthValou`	`oky :)`
`18:23.06`	`DarthValou`	`good luck with your work`
`18:23.18`	`Pimpinella`	`hope to see you soon :)`
`18:23.23`	`DarthValou`	`same here!`
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`18:26.32`	`CBG`	`Hi jeff`
`18:26.53`	`JeffM2501`	`hi`
`18:32.48`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o jolie] by JeffM2501`
`18:33.00`	`jolie`	`^_^`
`18:33.10`	`Tupone`	`I do not agree again with JeffM2501 :/`
`18:34.04`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o Tupone] by JeffM2501`
`18:34.17`	`CBG`	`I do not agree again with JeffM2501 :/`
`18:34.33`	`*** kick/#bzflag [CBG!~jeffm@JeffM2501.sustaining.supporter.pdpc] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501)`
`18:34.44`	`JeffM2501`	`;)`
`18:34.45`	`Thumper_`	`Is there a problem with the current CVS code not shutting down? /shutdown puts it in an infinite loop for me`
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`18:35.00`	`CBG`	`Tupone was made Op... I say same thing and get kicked...`
`18:35.13`	`CBG`	`JeffM2501: thats some twisted logic, man.`
`18:35.16`	`*** mode/#bzflag [-o Tupone] by Tupone`
`18:35.20`	`JeffM2501`	`fate is a fickle mistress CBG :)`
`18:35.35`	`JeffM2501`	`and I am sick, so randonmness is the name of the date`
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`18:35.50`	`JeffM2501`	`Thumper_, what OS?`
`18:35.56`	`Thumper_`	`Linux/Debian`
`18:35.59`	`CBG`	`How the heck do I get to my userCP on the bb?`
`18:36.00`	`JeffM2501`	`hmm`
`18:36.10`	`BenUrban`	`s/zero//`
`18:36.11`	`JeffM2501`	`I have similar problems on windows sometimes`
`18:36.21`	`DarthValou`	`hello zongo`
`18:36.27`	`DarthValou`	`this is for you from Pimpinella :`
`18:36.41`	`DarthValou`	`[20:22] <Pimpinella>sry, gt go, but plz ask him to tall the audience the result of infinite times zero`
`18:36.42`	`Thumper_`	`I haven't updated from CVS since March 18`
`18:36.48`	`Thumper_`	`until today`
`18:36.48`	`Tupone`	`so in undefined result ... just knowing that`
`18:36.48`	`BenUrban`	`sigh`
`18:37.01`	`BenUrban`	`DarthValou: did you not see what i just typed?`
`18:37.41`	`DarthValou`	`sorry, saw that too late`
`18:37.42`	`BenUrban`	`as in viper.pimpi.org`
`18:37.43`	`BenUrban`	`right?`
`18:37.48`	`Birdie`	`right`
`18:37.53`	`CBG`	`lol. :)`
`18:38.02`	`BenUrban`	`ack`
`18:38.05`	`BenUrban`	`can't type atm`
`18:38.32`	`BenUrban`	`"viper.pimpi.org admin == mathematical idiot"`
`18:39.38`	`Thumper_`	`jpa-: have working patch... just server won't shutdown so can't install it yet`
`18:40.09`	`_Manu_`	`BenUrban, why do you say it?`
`18:40.31`	`jpa-`	`Thumper_: why won't shutdown?`
`18:41.03`	`JeffM2501`	`there is a bug that causes it`
`18:41.09`	`Thumper_`	`jpa-: methinks maybe there is a bug in current CVS code - won't shutdown after build of cvs update -C -d with no patches applied`
`18:41.09`	`JeffM2501`	`I haven't been able to track it down yet`
`18:41.13`	`CBG`	`JeffM2501: Where is my bb userCP located? O.o`
`18:41.30`	`JeffM2501`	`CBG, what?`
`18:41.37`	`blast007`	`CBG: you mean your profile? right on the board`
`18:41.40`	`jpa-`	`Thumper_: kill -9? :)`
`18:41.54`	`CBG`	`JeffM2501: No... The place where I deletemy topic subsciptions, etc...`
`18:42.01`	`Thumper_`	`jpa-: that works... and so does sending SIGQUIT to get a core file`
`18:42.15`	`JeffM2501`	`one each topic IIRC`
`18:42.15`	`jpa-`	`so do it :)`
`18:42.45`	`BenUrban`	`eeew`
`18:42.47`	`DTRemenak`	`hey, I was reading that!`
`18:42.50`	`BenUrban`	`LMFAO`
`18:43.08`	`jpa-`	`you can continue`
`18:43.12`	`Thumper_`	`jpa-: can't install that on the olympic server with it like that. and don't really want to go back to 2.0.2 code...`
`18:43.45`	`jpa-`	`i just can't see the problem.. apply the patch to the olympics server bzfs?`
`18:43.57`	`jpa-`	`or you've lost the sources you want to use? :)`
`18:44.03`	`Thumper_`	`well I don't have the source that built the current one anymore :)`
`18:44.16`	`Thumper_`	`and after doing cvs up it borked`
`18:44.21`	`Thumper_`	`it's*`
`18:44.33`	`CBG`	`JeffM2501: Found the "(stop) watch(ing) this topic" link, but I thought there was still some kind of user cp where they are all listed and you could select and delete several at a time.. :/`
`18:44.34`	`jpa-`	`i think one can retrieve certain date source from cvs`
`18:44.35`	`blast007`	`you can get an older CVS, if you know what date it was working properly`
`18:44.39`	`jpa-`	`am i right?`
`18:45.04`	`DTRemenak`	`blast007: it's been borken for a while`
`18:45.06`	`jpa-`	`bzfs --version should tell the date`
`18:45.11`	`Thumper_`	`ok`
`18:45.17`	`jpa-`	`hmm.. or the build date`
`18:45.17`	`Thumper_`	`it was working on Mar 18 and 20`
`18:45.21`	`jpa-`	`but should be close`
`18:45.50`	`blast007`	`CBG: I think that vBulletin has a userCP, but not phpbb afaik`
`18:45.59`	`DTRemenak`	`jpa-: I'm flattered`
`18:46.21`	`CBG`	`blast007. That might be it... the forum I mod at is vB so maybe I get confused. Thanks.`
`18:46.29`	`blast007`	`:)`
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`18:49.12`	`blast007`	`:)`
`18:49.35`	`GBC`	`was?`
`18:49.39`	`CBG`	`Huh? rofl`
`18:49.42`	`CBG`	`Hi GBC.`
`18:50.50`	`GBC`	`was bedeuten Sie?`
`18:51.37`	`CBG`	`~x de en was bedeuten sie?`
`18:51.49`	`CBG`	`They mean they think you are me.`
`18:52.00`	`CBG`	`~x en de They mean they think you are me.`
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`18:53.25`	`Tupone`	`CBG/GBC I read the log every day for capturing developing things, would you mind stop filling that with monologues`
`18:53.51`	`CBG`	`Sorry....`
`18:53.55`	`Tupone`	`:)`
`18:54.22`	`jpa-`	`no blame to jpa?`
`18:54.35`	`GBC`	`soll ich gehen?`
`18:55.08`	`Tupone`	`if I start blaming all, log will be filled with blaming`
`18:55.16`	`blast007`	`:)`
`18:55.18`	`CBG`	`Indeed.\`
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`18:56.40`	`CIA-12`	`BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/sound.cxx: Warning fix`
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`19:16.53`	`Pimpinella`	`BenUrban: i know the result of infinite times zero, there had been different opinions about that on the channel, and since i respect \|zongo\| as an authority in this case i was pretty sure, that he'd be able to to provide a nice explanation`
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`19:20.07`	`jpa-`	`i say infinite * 0 == 0, anything / 0 == NaN`
`19:24.11`	`_Manu_`	`jpa-, do you like maths?`
`19:24.36`	`jpa-`	`hmm.. yes and no`
`19:24.48`	`_Manu_`	`i can give you hear an easy math game ;)`
`19:25.08`	`jpa-`	`too boring, but a must for programming`
`19:26.11`	`_Manu_`	`want to solve one? :)`
`19:26.38`	`_Manu_`	`is easy.. about your last sentence about x/0`
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`19:32.59`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by irc.freenode.net`
`19:33.02`	`Pimpinella`	`ripped them off`
`19:33.04`	`JeffM2501`	`wheeeeeeee....`
`19:33.15`	`_Manu_`	`jpa-, here is the math game:`
`19:33.15`	`_Manu_`	`we have: a=2 and b=3`
`19:33.15`	`_Manu_`	`then a = b-1 is true`
`19:33.15`	`_Manu_`	`i can multiply two side by (a-b) resulting: (a-b)a = (a-b)(b-1)`
`19:33.15`	`_Manu_`	`now i realiza the multiply and is: a^2-ab = ab-b^2-a+b`
`19:33.15`	`_Manu_`	`and this is the same than: a+a^2-ab = ab-b^2+b`
`19:33.16`	`jolie`	`yay`
`19:33.17`	`_Manu_`	`common factor: a(1+a-b) = b(1+a-b)`
`19:33.23`	`Birdie`	`logic:)`
`19:33.23`	`_Manu_`	`i cancel (1+a-b) because in two sides: a=b`
`19:33.23`	`_Manu_`	`resulting: 2=3 remember a=2 and b=3`
`19:33.23`	`_Manu_`	`what is wrong? :-p`
`19:33.26`	`_Manu_`	`try to solve it ;)`
`19:34.12`	`_Manu_`	`is not logic.. is about divide by 0 ;)`
`19:34.15`	`Thumper_`	`JeffM2501: the destroy WorldEventManager goes into an infinite loop I think`
`19:34.21`	`jpa-`	`_Manu_: pong`
`19:34.41`	`JeffM2501`	`hmm ok`
`19:34.52`	`jpa-`	`_Manu_: mm.. yes, you have to define (1+a-b) != 0`
`19:34.52`	`JeffM2501`	`Thumper_, let me look`
`19:35.07`	`JeffM2501`	`then I have to go out and get more meds`
`19:35.16`	`_Manu_`	`jpa-, no? 1+2-3=0 ;-p`
`19:35.27`	`jpa-`	`yes, so you can't divide`
`19:35.59`	`_Manu_`	`jpa-, quick ;-p`
`19:36.47`	`Birdie`	`i wouldnt have found it so quick`
`19:37.29`	`jpa-`	`_Manu_: so, solve this:`
`19:37.48`	`_Manu_`	`can's solve nothing after drinking some bears ;-p`
`19:37.52`	`jpa-`	`x^2 = x*y and y = 2x`
`19:38.01`	`jpa-`	`so x^2 = 2x^2`
`19:38.02`	`JeffM2501`	`Thumper_, think I found it`
`19:38.13`	`jpa-`	`divide by x^2 -> 1 = 2`
`19:38.16`	`CIA-12`	`BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/WorldEventManager.cxx: I am so very much an idiot`
`19:38.23`	`jpa-`	`no answer, eh?`
`19:38.28`	`_Manu_`	`no :)`
`19:38.29`	`JeffM2501`	`line 186 of the file, change the == to a !=`
`19:39.01`	`jpa-`	`_Manu_: there is, x=0`
`19:39.13`	`Birdie`	`nice one jpa`
`19:39.15`	`brad2901`	`~bzflist`
`19:39.16`	`_Manu_`	`jpa-, then.. there is no x ;-p`
`19:39.34`	`Pimpinella`	`giving -a with low values to bzfs might supress advantages from fast mouse without changing the feel of playing without cranked up mouse, no?`
`19:40.13`	`Pimpinella`	`wow, dub is listed before viper :)`
`19:41.19`	`_Manu_`	`those lag problems are kicking players :(`
`19:41.49`	`Pimpinella`	`seems it's only viper, i askes on dub and they had no probs`
`19:41.58`	`Pimpinella`	`weird, eh?`
`19:42.14`	`_Manu_`	`annoying :(`
`19:42.23`	`brad2901`	`Has anyone noticed that you can't see the list of numbers by each name if you have the HIDEADMIN perm?`
`19:42.24`	`_Manu_`	`i'm unable to play :(`
`19:42.38`	`_Manu_`	`that's right..`
`19:42.45`	`brad2901`	`why though?`
`19:42.49`	`_Manu_`	`because the number is rendered by the client..`
`19:42.50`	`jpa-`	`the client doesn't know it is admin`
`19:42.58`	`Thumper_`	`JeffM2501: :)`
`19:43.01`	`brad2901`	`oh.... :)`
`19:43.04`	`brad2901`	`mok, thanks`
`19:43.07`	`_Manu_`	`and if yo hide your admins rights.. so your client ignores you are admin`
`19:43.09`	`brad2901`	`ok, thanks*`
`19:43.14`	`brad2901`	`ah`
`19:43.26`	`DTRemenak`	`hm. maybe the player who's hidden should be able to see that he is admin anyway.`
`19:43.46`	`_Manu_`	`DTRemenak, he knows.. ;)`
`19:44.06`	`DTRemenak`	`_Manu_: that would give the slot numbers back :)`
`19:44.17`	`_Manu_`	`DTRemenak, yes`
`19:44.30`	`DTRemenak`	`and whatever else depends on isAdmin`
`19:44.45`	`_Manu_`	`yes, true`
`19:45.11`	`Pimpinella`	`could confuse though`
`19:45.27`	`DTRemenak`	`downside is that you'd have to log on as two players to see if hideadmin was working :)`
`19:45.49`	`_Manu_`	`he also can get the slots numbers doing /playerlist :)`
`19:46.09`	`Pimpinella`	`i run a group local.trusted, they have some perms like kick and shortbanand also hideadmin`
`19:46.28`	`Pimpinella`	`they shouldn't appear with @`
`19:46.52`	`Pimpinella`	`now they would see themself with @, but nobody else`
`19:46.57`	`Pimpinella`	`confusing`
`19:47.12`	`jpa-`	`they should have a dimmer @ :P`
`19:47.30`	`Pimpinella`	`prolly in 2.2 ;)`
`19:47.36`	`_Manu_`	`well, we can change the client code for rendering the slots numbers, not only for admins..`
`19:47.46`	`_Manu_`	`or using a client var for it`
`19:47.55`	`Pimpinella`	`it's optional even now, no?`
`19:48.14`	`Pimpinella`	`thought you added a var for it`
`19:48.14`	`_Manu_`	`no, now is automatic.. if isAdmin true.. then render the numbers`
`19:48.23`	`_Manu_`	`no i didn't`
`19:48.29`	`brad2901`	`would it also be nice to have a /mutelist command?`
`19:48.30`	`Pimpinella`	`ic`
`19:48.49`	`Thumper_`	`JeffM2501: that works much better - thanks :D`
`19:48.58`	`JeffM2501`	`sure`
`19:49.05`	`_Manu_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:49.17`	`_Manu_`	`if a player reconnect... he can talk again`
`19:49.26`	`Pimpinella`	`brad2901: it's not really easy either`
`19:49.28`	`brad2901`	`Yeah, but it would still be nice to see who is muted`
`19:49.32`	`brad2901`	`oh..`
`19:49.48`	`brad2901`	`nvm then :)`
`19:50.00`	`_Manu_`	`brad2901, you can swear somebody.. and if you don't receive a response.. probably he is muted.. lol ;`
`19:50.00`	`Pimpinella`	`/mute removes the players talk permission`
`19:50.22`	`_Manu_`	`brad2901, forget it :)`
`19:50.27`	`brad2901`	`lol Manu.. :)`
`19:50.40`	`Pimpinella`	`you can't devide who's muted and who didn't had talk anyway`
`19:50.49`	`brad2901`	`so.. surely that would be stored in the UserDB?`
`19:51.00`	`Pimpinella`	`oh, sure it's easy`
`19:51.05`	`Pimpinella`	`stupid me`
`19:51.07`	`_Manu_`	`heh.. perhaps a new icon for the player list :)`
`19:51.08`	`jpa-`	`_Manu_: so mutelist could use swearwordlist to swear to everybody and wait for answer :)`
`19:51.12`	`brad2901`	`:)`
`19:51.17`	`jpa-`	`maybe solving the language by ip`
`19:51.43`	`_Manu_`	`:-I Playerxxxxx is muted`
`19:51.58`	`_Manu_`	`in the score list`
`19:52.13`	`Pimpinella`	`protocol change ;)`
`19:52.20`	`_Manu_`	`not really..`
`19:52.41`	`_Manu_`	`well.. yes.. because it implies client changes :(`
`19:52.50`	`jpa-`	`hmm?`
`19:53.00`	`Pimpinella`	`no, it implies protocol changes ;)`
`19:53.07`	`jpa-`	`:`
`19:53.10`	`jpa-`	`:/`
`19:53.35`	`Pimpinella`	`you have to inform the client of the player being muted, no?`
`19:53.42`	`_Manu_`	`yes..`
`19:53.45`	`jpa-`	`we should have system that clients are always forced to download newest build when connecting to list server :)`
`19:53.48`	`_Manu_`	`and the player reacting to it`
`19:53.52`	`Pimpinella`	`there's nothing in the protocol for that yet`
`19:53.55`	`_Manu_`	`mean the client..`
`19:54.09`	`jpa-`	`it could parse /groupperm?`
`19:54.14`	`jpa-`	`hmm.. or no`
`19:54.34`	`Pimpinella`	`would't even see it there`
`19:55.19`	`Pimpinella`	`but it would be a dirty fix, the server is messed up enough even now`
`19:55.55`	`_Manu_`	`now the client understand the isAdmin.. we can add a new value for isMuted`
`19:55.57`	`jpa-`	`yes :)`
`19:56.41`	`_Manu_`	`and send for example isAdmin \| isMuted`
`19:57.06`	`Pimpinella`	`which is in fact a protocol change...`
`19:57.15`	`Pimpinella`	`sry to repeat it...`
`19:57.19`	`DTRemenak`	`why would you mute an admin?`
`19:57.25`	`DTRemenak`	`;)`
`19:57.45`	`DTRemenak`	`it is a protocol change but it's also backwards-compatible and degrades gracefully`
`19:57.58`	`_Manu_`	`DTRemenak, i can decode it from client side..`
`19:57.59`	`DTRemenak`	`there's no disadvantage to not knowing what the next playerInfo bit is`
`20:00.11`	`_Manu_`	`DTRemenak, heh.. i was talking about enum values.. ;)`
`20:00.29`	`_Manu_`	`DTRemenak, i haven't the code here.. so don't remember the names`
`20:00.54`	`Pimpinella`	`it does?`
`20:01.16`	`_Manu_`	`i think it can be done`
`20:01.24`	`_Manu_`	`ad DTRemenak pointed`
`20:01.38`	`_Manu_`	`s/ad/as`
`20:03.22`	`Thumper_`	`jpa-: patch is in place.`
`20:03.40`	`noyb`	`~brlcad`
`20:03.41`	`ibot`	`somebody said brlcad was like a learner wrapped in tofu best served chilled`
`20:04.55`	`bryjen`	`~learner`
`20:04.56`	`ibot`	`[learner] your friend .`
`20:05.35`	`noyb`	`hi learner ... uh, you should know that I want something by now... :)`
`20:05.53`	`learner`	`I should? :)`
`20:05.56`	`JeffM2501`	`being wraped in tofu would be kinda nasty`
`20:06.00`	`learner`	`don't we all want something`
`20:06.04`	`noyb`	`I never call unless I need.`
`20:06.23`	`jolie`	`sad but true`
`20:07.04`	`learner`	`JeffM2501: unless that thing being wrapped is also edible`
`20:07.08`	`learner`	`like more tofu`
`20:07.17`	`noyb`	`I'm trying to compile SDL on solaris 10. : http://pastebin.ca/12735`
`20:07.33`	`JeffM2501`	`I'm still gonna call ewww on ot`
`20:07.36`	`learner`	`icky solaris`
`20:07.53`	`learner`	`noyb: it didn't find ar`
`20:08.11`	`learner`	`'ar' should be there somewhere`
`20:08.24`	`noyb`	`ok, binutils install maybe?`
`20:08.36`	`learner`	`no, it's usually part of the compiler`
`20:08.43`	`learner`	`what compiler are you using?`
`20:08.49`	`learner`	`sun workshop pro or gcc?`
`20:09.05`	`noyb`	`gcc`
`20:09.13`	`learner`	`just type "ar".. what does it output?`
`20:09.18`	`noyb`	`binutils is currently installing from blastwave...`
`20:09.21`	`learner`	`command not found?`
`20:09.50`	`noyb`	`usage`
`20:09.59`	`learner`	`ahh, so then configure just messed up`
`20:10.15`	`learner`	`cd src/main && ar cru libSDLmain.a SDL_dummy_main.o`
`20:10.24`	`learner`	`and try make again`
`20:10.49`	`learner`	`if it outputs and errors on another "false" line, just replace 'ar' where you see 'false'`
`20:11.14`	`Pimpinella`	`isn't ar an archiver?`
`20:11.30`	`Pimpinella`	`why is that part of a compiler?`
`20:11.42`	`Pimpinella`	`h, think i understood...`
`20:12.24`	`learner`	`it's a sister to ld`
`20:12.37`	`learner`	`or maybe a simple bastard brother`
`20:12.50`	`learner`	`library archiver`
`20:13.24`	`bryjen`	`from man ar: ar is considered a binary utility because archives of this sort are most often used as libraries holding commonly needed subroutines.`
`20:14.34`	`Pimpinella`	`deb files are ar archives...the only case i used it intentionally so far`
`20:14.43`	`Pimpinella`	`you learn every day...`
`20:15.23`	`noyb`	`ok... ar wasn't in my path in that terminal... I used a different window to see if ar was there. added /usr/ccs/bin to path, "make" is now chugging away.`
`20:15.27`	`noyb`	`sorry.`
`20:15.37`	`noyb`	`didn't need to install binutils.`
`20:15.50`	`noyb`	`thanks for the ar tip off`
`20:15.50`	`learner`	`ahh, so you have both`
`20:16.13`	`noyb`	`is it bad to use gcc with native ar?`
`20:16.19`	`learner`	`no, that's fine`
`20:16.24`	`noyb`	`whew...`
`20:16.42`	`noyb`	`~`
`20:16.44`	`learner`	`but you should rerun any autogen/configure`
`20:16.45`	`noyb`	`duh`
`20:16.54`	`learner`	`otherwise it doesn't know you have ar yet`
`20:17.07`	`noyb`	`ok`
`20:17.17`	`noyb`	`I was about to say.... ~learner++`
`20:17.35`	`noyb`	`~learner++`
`20:17.38`	`noyb`	`wee`
`20:18.31`	`learner`	`Pimpinella: that is so wierd -- I believe that's probably the first non-library-ar-archive I've ever seen in popular use`
`20:18.51`	`learner`	`indeed does seem to be an ar archive .. !<arch>`
`20:19.22`	`learner`	`all to prevent debs from installing on incompatible systems apparently`
`20:19.53`	`Pimpinella`	`;)`
`20:27.48`	`noyb`	`learner: what does "false cru lib..." mean`
`20:28.08`	`learner`	`it means it still doesn't know about ar yet`
`20:28.17`	`learner`	`probably due to cached results`
`20:28.42`	`noyb`	`you just know that from reading that cryptic message?`
`20:28.44`	`learner`	`instead of running ar, it's running the "false" command (which does exist, but returns an error)`
`20:28.50`	`learner`	`yep`
`20:29.02`	`jolie`	`hm..`
`20:29.04`	`Tupone`	`the command had to be "ar cru lib "`
`20:29.13`	`learner`	`configure will set 'ar' to be 'false' if it can't find it`
`20:29.36`	`jolie`	`cru?`
`20:29.45`	`noyb`	`aha... knowledge of configure is the key.`
`20:29.57`	`learner`	`noyb: run: rm -rf cache`
`20:30.07`	`learner`	`and rerun configure`
`20:30.13`	`noyb`	`during my make?`
`20:30.16`	`learner`	`make sure ar is in your path`
`20:30.22`	`learner`	`before running make`
`20:30.53`	`noyb`	`dude... you fixed it already, it's working. I'm just curious about how you fixed it.`
`20:30.53`	`learner`	`0) make sure your path is correct (ar is in your path) and 1) rm -rf cache and 2) ./configure ... and 3) make`
`20:31.03`	`learner`	`ahh`
`20:31.10`	`CIA-12`	`BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDRenderer.cxx: Hunting observer? no no`
`20:31.11`	`jolie`	`lol*`
`20:31.43`	`noyb`	`long term hunting expedition...`
`20:31.50`	`bryjen`	`ie "don't tackle the referee"`
`20:33.32`	`noyb`	`it's good to be king...`
`20:33.35`	`jolie`	`you always work anyways...`
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`20:36.14`	`learner`	`yeah, but i'm not prohibited from drinking gin and tonic while at home`
`20:36.16`	`learner`	`it's quiet`
`20:36.20`	`learner`	`much fewer distractions`
`20:36.26`	`learner`	`can watc1;2ch a movie in parallel`
`20:36.32`	`jolie`	`heh`
`20:36.41`	`learner`	`did I mention the beverage potential?`
`20:40.39`	`bryjen`	`glass is an insulator...`
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`21:00.47`	`bz5047`	`wat is helvbr and wer do i get it`
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`21:13.44`	`SportChick`	`this is pretty funny: http://stats.bzflag.org/playersearch.php?callsign=SportChick`
`21:14.40`	`blast007`	`heh`
`21:14.41`	`blast007`	`:)`
`21:16.24`	`Birdie`	`all sportchickwannabees`
`21:17.52`	`bryjen`	`they're all from secretplace. one evening _everyone_ there was SportChick :)`
`21:19.17`	`SportChick`	`if I recall, it was probably 04-01`
`21:19.29`	`SportChick`	`or, if you're european, it was 01-04`
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`21:20.30`	`bryjen`	`ah, the april foolishness`
`21:20.34`	`Birdie`	`hi gina`
`21:20.36`	`blast007`	`http://stats.bzflag.org/playersearch.php?callsign=bigger`
`21:21.29`	`bryjen`	`stupid html tricks`
`21:21.33`	`Pimpinella`	`i surely didn't play that day, it's my wife's birthday and i had to promise not even to think of bz ;)`
`21:21.47`	`Birdie`	`and that worked?`
`21:22.04`	`bryjen`	`hence there was no SportChickinella`
`21:22.08`	`gina`	`?! who played with my nick on antesher`
`21:22.23`	`Birdie`	`if its not registered, you cant call it your nick:)`
`21:22.32`	`gina`	`it is, I'm admin there`
`21:22.36`	`Birdie`	`lol`
`21:22.44`	`Birdie`	`you need to identify before spawning?`
`21:29.22`	`noyb`	`do you guys have a system that automatically builds bzflag when CIA notices a check-in?`
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`21:31.02`	`noyb`	`it would be cool to have a bot listening here on the sun box, automatically fire a cvs get and build the latest and report back if broken build.`
`21:31.29`	`Tupone`	`cvs is always broken`
`21:31.38`	`noyb`	`ack.`
`21:31.46`	`noyb`	`really?`
`21:32.20`	`Tupone`	`:) not really, depends on what you mean by broken, it build on some platform`
`21:32.40`	`Tupone`	`so you mean compile on every platform`
`21:33.04`	`Tupone`	`normally people make change and test on his/her platform, so should build always`
`21:33.07`	`Tupone`	`on some`
`21:33.31`	`noyb`	`no, just the sun box... since there seems to be some apathy or love loss when speaking of solaris here.. ;-)`
`21:33.47`	`Tupone`	`open source solaris ?`
`21:33.58`	`noyb`	`not yet, but soon.`
`21:34.16`	`Tupone`	`do you test it on 10.0?`
`21:34.46`	`Tupone`	`it -> bzflag`
`21:35.05`	`noyb`	`yes... first time today. I just finished configure.`
`21:35.34`	`noyb`	`I need to talk about the last few lines of output of configure...`
`21:35.38`	`Tupone`	`did you install gcc from sunfreeware or build it your self?`
`21:36.03`	`Tupone`	`pastebin it`
`21:36.05`	`noyb`	`I dragged in the cvs and got some help from learner to get SDL installed...`
`21:36.19`	`noyb`	`pastebin comin' up`
`21:37.06`	`noyb`	`http://pastebin.ca/12738`
`21:37.12`	`Pimpinella`	`noyb: not love loss, it's just that you're the first in quite a while running bz on solaris`
`21:37.13`	`noyb`	`tail end of configure`
`21:37.40`	`Tupone`	`you need only the client?`
`21:37.51`	`Tupone`	`server`
`21:38.11`	`noyb`	`I'm actully interested in the server, to see if I can get into fixing/adding things.`
`21:38.19`	`Tupone`	`and why SDL ?`
`21:38.31`	`noyb`	`cuz I wanted to be complete.`
`21:38.39`	`Tupone`	`so client too :)`
`21:38.42`	`Pimpinella`	`you don't need SDL for a sever build...`
`21:39.09`	`Tupone`	`CVS last version ?`
`21:39.10`	`noyb`	`yeah, but I want to have it anyway just to build everything. I'll never run the client there.`
`21:39.21`	`noyb`	`yes last (30 min)`
`21:39.29`	`Tupone`	`have you installed curl ?`
`21:39.29`	`Pimpinella`	`you started configure with --disable client?`
`21:39.55`	`noyb`	`no. I want to see that it builds, but only mess with the server.`
`21:40.37`	`noyb`	`I don't even have a monitor on that sun box. I just want to see it make the executable. broken or not.`
`21:40.41`	`Tupone`	`libcurl ... install it`
`21:42.09`	`noyb`	`I have the libcurl installed, configure isn't finding it.`
`21:42.24`	`blast007`	`the dev librarys for libcurl?`
`21:42.27`	`CIA-12`	`BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/README.XMINGW: Adding binary install`
`21:43.01`	`TimRiker`	`so does it install and run under wine?`
`21:43.30`	`Tupone`	`nope, just in one directory, to separate program from obj`
`21:43.47`	`Tupone`	`but It work on windows`
`21:44.31`	`noyb`	`Tupone: or maybe configure is finding it. I don't know. why do you ask me to install it?`
`21:44.37`	`Tupone`	`To finish it, I have to think on how to integrate in the installer. Prolly under wine`
`21:44.39`	`Tupone`	`make`
`21:45.01`	`Tupone`	`so what is your problem ?`
`21:45.16`	`noyb`	`Tupone: my problem?`
`21:45.19`	`Tupone`	`client does not build there`
`21:45.20`	`Tupone`	`yes`
`21:45.34`	`Tupone`	`you need openGL headers I suppose`
`21:45.59`	`Tupone`	`you want to build the client ?`
`21:46.32`	`noyb`	`I think my problem from the last pastebin is that configure didn't find SDL fo`
`21:46.41`	`noyb`	`for me`
`21:47.10`	`Tupone`	`but if you don't need the client, you don't need SDL. If you want to build the client and want me too look at, you need to pasetbin config.log`
`21:48.18`	`noyb`	`a little while ago... I said I want the client. I think I need to add -L/usr/local/lib somewhere...`
`21:48.44`	`Tupone`	`I can't say without looking at config.log`
`21:49.33`	`noyb`	`what part would you like to see? or all?`
`21:50.04`	`bryjen`	`./configure --any-options CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib`
`21:50.04`	`Tupone`	`all if you want I look at, otherwise just try to see the SDL check there and understand what is wrong`
`21:50.21`	`bryjen`	`assuming /usr/local/{lib\|include} is where SDL is`
`21:50.40`	`Tupone`	`I'll do CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib ./configure --any-options`
`21:51.12`	`bryjen`	`that works too :)`
`21:51.14`	`Tupone`	`but SDL location should be configurable.`
`21:51.20`	`Tupone`	`sdl-config works?`
`21:51.51`	`noyb`	`sdl-config works`
`21:52.25`	`Tupone`	`I 'm going to leave soon ... if you can paste config.log`
`21:52.30`	`Tupone`	`all`
`21:52.31`	`noyb`	`libs are in /usr/local/lib`
`21:52.43`	`noyb`	`ok sorry. 1 sec`
`21:52.47`	`bryjen`	`hmm, ./configure --sdl-prefix=/usr/local/`
`21:53.11`	`noyb`	`ooh.. that looks good too. still want config.log?`
`21:53.32`	`Tupone`	`look good? have you tried ?`
`21:54.36`	`noyb`	`it's --with-sdl-prefix and yes.`
`21:54.39`	`bryjen`	`Tupone: there a PATH set before trying sdl-config at configure line 9653, maybe it needs /usr/local/bin added ?`
`21:56.08`	`noyb`	`~tupone++`
`21:56.21`	`noyb`	`~bryjen++`
`21:56.32`	`Tupone`	`my configure is different old version`
`21:57.01`	`bryjen`	`maybe my line number is unique to me...`
`21:57.32`	`Tupone`	`my configure is 6202 lines :)`
`21:57.44`	`bryjen`	`ack`
`21:59.46`	`Tupone`	`it come from acinclude.m4`
`22:00.05`	`noyb`	`uh, oh... --with-sdl-prefix didn't correct the problem. configure still can't find SDL.`
`22:00.17`	`Tupone`	`please config.log :)`
`22:00.54`	`noyb`	`ok`
`22:00.59`	`Tupone`	`I know is big, but that is the only way. Have you removed config.cache before last try?`
`22:01.10`	`noyb`	`no.`
`22:01.17`	`Tupone`	`:)`
`22:01.36`	`Tupone`	`time is passing fast, midnight here`
`22:01.55`	`noyb`	`I'm easily distracted... we can do this later. near leaving time for me too.`
`22:02.28`	`noyb`	`how to post something so large? no copy/paste.`
`22:02.42`	`Tupone`	`ok, ok. Well, if you want to debug yourself, look at config.log. Very easy to understand where it brokes`
`22:02.54`	`Tupone`	`any web server ?`
`22:04.37`	`noyb`	`got it...`
`22:04.43`	`noyb`	`http://pastebin.ca/12740`
`22:06.09`	`menotume`	`YAY - i got control panel to 'dim'`
`22:06.16`	`Tupone`	`SDL/SDL.h is missing`
`22:06.53`	`menotume`	`Tupone: forget about the white radar area when using SDL and toggling to window mode - i think i have a fix for that`
`22:07.15`	`Tupone`	`ok, already done :) I mean I forgot`
`22:07.20`	`menotume`	`hehe`
`22:13.21`	`Tupone`	`noyb: seems it is looking for libaudio`
`22:13.30`	`Tupone`	`and that is not here`
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`22:23.26`	`noyb`	`ok, thanks.`
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`22:38.08`	`Pimpinella`	`~bzflist`
`22:38.58`	`Pimpinella`	`~bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5156`
`22:44.26`	`SportChick`	`DTRemenak: ping`
`22:44.33`	`SportChick`	`tupone: ping`
`22:44.41`	`DTRemenak`	`SportChick: pong`
`22:44.51`	`SportChick`	`I'm still getting full system crashes with the latest version - will that be fixed when it gets released?`
`22:48.49`	`DTRemenak`	`hrm?`
`22:49.12`	`SportChick`	`read above`
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`22:59.28`	`SportChick`	`DTRemenak: I'm still getting full system crashes with the latest version - will that be fixed when it gets released?`
`22:59.39`	`DTRemenak`	`I haven't had that problem`
`22:59.44`	`DTRemenak`	`what kind of crash?`
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`23:01.05`	`SportChick`	`DTRemenak: it happens somewhat frequently - and I know others have complained too. I'll be playing and allt he sudden the entire screen freezes up and you can't quit`
`23:01.26`	`SportChick`	`you either have to ctrl-alt-del or hard boot (if it's really bad)`
`23:01.44`	`DTRemenak`	`hm`
`23:01.52`	`SportChick`	`lately I've been able to ctrl-alt-del, but originally they were so bad I'd have to hard boot`
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